"You" Don't Exist -- Deixis, Part 2 (ft. LingoLizard)

[@tsunamiscientist568]

Maybe you don't, but I do.

[@Jackson-wq6yt]

So do i

[@isaacthedestroyerofstuped7676]

I am. I know because I think.

[@LoganKearsley]

Pretty much all modern computer architectures allow relative references to permit relocatable code, because that's just way more convenient than all code being written with absolute positions. So, yeah: there's deixis in binary code.

[@hadinossanosam4459]

And if it's dynamically linked, you even have deixis referring to others as well, those others being the libraries used by the program! Though to be pedantic, relocations are not a feature of the architecture itself, so the actual ready-to-execute binary code (i.e. after loading) does not contain the relocations anymore. Instead, it's a feature of the executable format to allow relocations to be stored, and of a compatible OS to interpret them. On the other hand, this means that there is a piece of code in any modern system that "implements deixis" (i.e. resolves it to physical locations/addresses) within any modern OS, and that's also pretty cool in my opinion :)

[@yjlom]

bit late to the party, but most architectures have relative jump/break instructions, since we like keeping instructions 32 bits, a 64 bit pointer plus the opcode wouldn't fit and jumping on register content is slow

[@protondium_8927]

I accept my existence of the hexslug

[@EchoLog]

I completely forgot about hex bugs! There's gotta be a big DIY hex bug community right? 3D printers & such? I know where about a pound of hex bugs in a bucket are buried in Bullhead AZ, there might be a house there now, might not. There's definitely a house ontop of my bionicles and grandma's necklace. 😭🤣 If you give a kid a shovel, make sure it's the only thing they have.

[@protondium_8927]

@@EchoLog I feel this is also a thing whenever someone has access to sand The urge to just *dig* is always there. There may be treasures, cool rocks, or maybe jus more sand. Maybe it's the urge to leave a tiny mark on the world? Maybe people just find joy in digging? In any respect, I feel that the urge to dig a little hole is a part of what makes us human.

[@EchoLog]

@@protondium_8927 human dig rocks! 😤Human stack rocks! 💪Human celebratorily bang rocks! 🎉

[@heartsthekitteh6239]

I've truly been blessed this day by His Incomprehensiveness! 🙏 A sequel to my all-time favorite Nguh video. Can't thank you engugh.

[@EchoLog]

[ⁿdɛ͜ɪk͡sɪs] 👀 The various "reader" beings you've described are truly lovecraftian. My brain went to midichlorians but scary on the second watch. (Yes I'm one your view farms lol)

[@TeleviseGuy]

The freaking Lapis body pillow is cracking me up

[@captnconfusion280]

today i learned that my native language, German, also has an obviative fourth person - "man" it works like the example in Spanish i think. "Kann man das machen?" = "Can it be done?/Can one do that?/Can you do that?"

[@zakuro8532]

¿Se puede hacerlo?

[@martinomasolo8833]

Just a thought.. What about kids that refer to themselves in the 3rd person and using their name instead of "I"? Is that a sign that deixis is developed after some time and based on culture/language?

[@piguyalamode164]

On the rambling about assembly: its complicated. There are a few ways it works. First, there is an addressing system, which essentially acts as a very unique naming schema(note that in the vast majority of cases the memory controller will provide the program with aliased/remaped names for security reasons). Secondly, there are relative operations(ie take something from somewhere, add something to it, and then do something with the result). This is interesting because the results can change(which may be useful with adressing) There are also semi-deictic operations implemented by the cpu itself. For example, there is ret, an instruction that basically works out to "go back to right after this function was started". Note this isn't really deixis as we imagine it, but its sort of close ish On top of that, Operating systems allow programs to offload work onto certain other programs/the os. This allows a program to use "deictic structure" and offload the work of figuring out what that means to someone else.

[@Rudol_Zeppili]

Omg for the first several minutes I thought you were saying deep di** not deictic

[@mollof7893]

I really like how story telling works Hvasvan. I'm inspired.

[@devofficialchannel]

The more someone really thinks of it, pronouns really are confusing. Like everyone just came and decide that certain random sounds made in the mouth refer to a specific person.

[@Garfield_Minecraft]

the word for you in my conlang is "nga" ._. what a coincidence

[@stumpybumpo]

heart u aeternal

[@Denneth_D.]

Get a room with him

[@cjayhay]

re: pronunciation of deixis, as a Latin nerd from New Zealand, I pronounce it with three syllables: "day-ix-is"

[@aliceh5289]

The forest individual(s) you described made me think of Eywa from Avatar. Probably all of her communication with plants and dead animals within her network don't use deixis at all.

[@lfwj]

[@Denneth_D.]

Get a room

[@borisk201]

Existence doesn't I(where I is a verb)

[@vincentfinn292]

So interesting and entertaining, as usual! It gives me so much ideas of strange conlangs! Great video, continue like that!

[@oceanw9988]

Help

[@SeoDeadeHenn]

hexbugs ❤

[@lucassiccardi8764]

I disagree with the philosophical perspective you present, I don't think you can ever abstract from deixis, but these videos are incredibly interesting nonetheless. Original and well done! Please give us more on deixis!

[@markenangel1813]

wikipedia says it's pronounced /ˈdaɪksɪs/ or /ˈdeɪksɪs/, not as /ˈdiksɪs/

[@Gamesaucer]

We don't typically use "I" to refer to things that don't include our body, but we do regularly include things beside just our body in that "I". You might try on some new clothes and ask someone "how do I look?" which would make no sense if it strictly included only you body. After all, your body is the same as before. Or you might bump your car into another person's car and they say "You hit me!" as though their car is part of them. It'd be fun to experiment with pushing that boundary though. See how much we can get away with without making speaking that language feel untrue. You could perhaps merge "this" and "I" into a single word. This now allows the possibility of excluding your body from the first person pronoun, e.g. "Look at this (cool rock I found)!" vs "Look at this (person)!" That might be pushing it into feeling untrue already but I think it's an interesting concept, even with as little wiggle room as there is.

[@aeaeeaoiauea]

heart u aeternal

[@Denneth_D.]

It can be said as either You, Ewe, or even Ooo.

[@junodoesworldbuilding2956]

your books on my birthday list :D very excited to read!!!

[@SiKedek]

Well, I can say one thing: Roman Jakobson would've torn his hair out if he ever saw the classic Warners Bros. clip on "pronoun trouble".

[@Salvanim]

Me naming my child Agma Schwa out of spite

[@Denneth_D.]

Didn’t know conlangers could breed before

[@llsilvertail561]

Hvasvan is absolutely fascinating

[@BaldPutin]

nguh

[@Somebodyherefornow]

eepy bug

[@notoriouswhitemoth]

How lingo lizard pronounced it is how I've always heard it

[@Aerostarm]

I have that toy maggot thing too!!!

[@aliceh5289]

I'm extremely sorry, but I keep mishearing "deictic" with a "p" instead of the first "c", so I prefer LingoLizard's pronunciation

[@junodoesworldbuilding2956]

Also thanks for the assist i needed it

[@fiddeou]

20:30 My mom has 4 friends named Karina, so she calls them Karina 1, Karina 2 and so on, in the order she met them

[@zakuro8532]

lol

[@eiknarfp6391]

Man has an existential crisis: language edition

[@evacummings-o3p]

Perfect clones are impossible - as soon as something is cloned, the original organizes itself into the farthest possible state from the pre-clone state - so at least in this universe, the Readers would immediately kill and clone anyone they talked about, including themselves. They'd probably have more use for this as teleportation than language.

[@volvagianintendo6465]

What is that wandering toy? L.O.L.

[@Denneth_D.]

A hexbug maybe?

[@thevelarnasal]

it is indeed a Hexbug. I called it an "inchworm" but I'm pretty sure the product is called Hexbug Larva or something like that

[@Denneth_D.]

@@thevelarnasal Grinchworm (cuz green)

[@volvagianintendo6465]

Thanks, Robert Joseph Cole!@@thevelarnasal

[@oleksiiammo7832]

what

[@felixdarkwood5848]

Yoo, we really ŋeed some cərsed linɡuistic themes on this channəl. And you really need to read some deep linguistic books for this thing, that's awesome videos. Keep goiŋ!

[@LiftedStarfish]

Bruh, I don't know why it feels so weird to know that you watched TOH now.

[@volvagianintendo6465]

LOL 🤣 Estoy alegrísimo por este video

[@zakuro8532]

As a German I shriek at your pronounciation of deixis, deictic

[@AlmondShinShap]

You don't exist 👀

[@WowUrFcknHxC]

I can't be the only person who heard something that wasn't deictic...😂