You Don’t Need a Quiet Mind to Find Lasting Inner Peace

[@taracair]

The person that manages this channel is doing awesome work. Thank you for all your commitment. And thank you Rupert for being among us.

[@EinfachNurTyp]

​@@icontrolmythoughts4712 nothing is necessary as it already is the totality always anywhere

[@liberty-voceainimii7889]

@@icontrolmythoughts4712that’s you 😊

[@yanakord1078]

I got interested in spirituality accidently. I've never meditated in my life. At first Rupert seemed unclear and strange for my mind, and I was afraid to lose "myself". So I stopped watching all the spiritual videos. But after a while my curiousity won, and I returned to do that. Amazingly and gradually I started grasping the words of spiritual teachers, started understanding Rupert more and more. But I haven't been forming any ideas, beliefs about anything. Just remained empty of any kind of knowledge. And yes, I lost "myself" - the image I had perceived myself to be. But in my heart I saw the bottomless love and knew the reality, the life I am. One shouldn't stick or cling to anything at all. Just be, just observe. And you will feel the Beauty of Yourself.

[@ferdinandocoluccelli9574]

thank you Yana! your story is very beautiful 🥰 my heart is still smiling!

[@stelladonnelly2832]

I understand what he says deep inside, that focussing on meditation, practices etc can become an obstacle one can get caught up in that, and to the mind, what Robert is saying sounds too simple - yet perhaps it really is that simple - that after all we cannot truly be anything other than what we already are. Also, I've never really taken to formal meditation perhaps it suits some people.

[@Kamadev888]

Yana. You have spoken well. Let's get married, and we can enjoy unifying our duality!

[@Jamesgarethmorgan]

Reminds me of that passage from ACIM: "Simply do this: Be still, and lay aside all thoughts of what you are and what God is; all concepts you have learned about the world; all images you hold about yourself. Empty your mind of everything it thinks is either true or false, or good or bad, of every thought it judges worthy, and all the ideas of which it is ashamed. Hold onto nothing. Do not bring with you one thought the past has taught, nor one belief you ever learned before from anything. Forget this world, forget this course, and come with wholly empty hands unto your God."

[@davidalbro2009]

But notice that Rupert just said you don't need lay aside anything.

[@andrear6094]

Rumi said something like I've been at the edge of madness knocking and knocking on the door to get in, until I realized I was knocking from the inside.

[@GAMeEnTHuSiaST1]

This channel has been reflecting my exact feelings with every new video I click on. It is nice to let go of trying to discipline our minds trying to be focused all the time and just sit with everything that is happening. The thoughts may be their but they seem much less of a threat than If I was trying to control my attention. Love the feelings of connectedness in this state. Everything just seems ok!

[@brawlpups3517]

Discipline is needed to restrain the false impulse of ego centric thought but in people who have not had a revelation after a long period of no results the inevitable antithesis presents itself as naturally as the self-reveals itself when nothing is left over and nothing remains. ; )

[@hansludwig4732]

Be still and know I am God🙏 I saw those words in 1991 at the Yogananda Lake Shrine on Sunset Bvd. above a bench right on that Lake all still and to the left there where som parts of the ashes of Mahatma Grande. Powerful spot, powerful words👍❤

[@JennyRSTeam]

Thank you for sharing. With love, Rupert's team

[@truesight91]

Its really, ultimately, all about PRESENCE. Soon as you return to being 'present' there you are, as you always were.

[@RupaliChaudhry]

@Rupertspira You are amazing and cool 😎 !! So fortunate to have attended your online retreats. Heartfelt Prostrations 🙏🇮🇳🌹 'Give yourself a break'..Wow.

[@preetimaheshwari1329]

Hi all, we are requesting Rupert’s team to consider arranging Retreats in India so that all interested participants who wish to attend in person retreats from the Indian region can attend. In this regard, I have sent email to Mr Neil to register the name in the attendees list for Rupert’s proposal of doing retreats in India. Hope this information may be useful for all the members in the group who wish to attend in person retreats in India. Thank you 🙏At the moment, It is only a request to Rupert’s team. Hope they will consider and may arrange in future.

[@anandakumarsanthinathan4740]

Beautifully explained. The effect is uncaused. But we are so attached to the effect, we would like to see the cause happening as an effect. Thank you, Rupert. 🙏🙏

[@marjorie6021]

It seems we need to search everywhere before knowing any direction takes us away from us.

[@Happyhappylk]

Thank you. 🙏 We are the ocean. Our body and mind are like waves 🌊 . It comes and goes. But the ocean is always there.

[@zenmasterjay1]

Rupert has really well developed perception of relationships{intuition}.... Which he utilizes to deepen insight... as well as skillfully consider the conditioned states{dukkha} of whom he is speaking with.

[@JennyRSTeam]

Thank you for being part of our community. With love, Rupert's team

[@BiancaTheAlchemist]

This felt like the last chapter of a book I’ve been reading for a long time that I didn’t know I was reading 😂❤ much nicer to have the authors point of view though, I gotta say 😂❤❤

[@zenmasterjay1]

The fundamental ground can be experienced... and the easiest way to find it is to realize that it is the only EXPERIENCER.

[@davekay7221]

As a seeker-an apparently localized, separate self-a “recognition” of our true nature defines self-awakening. This recognition is indeed an “experience” from that localized perspective. The transition from ignorance to knowing, to direct seeing, is best described as an experience despite the concession in language that is being made. I lovingly disagree with Rupert here. She needs hope to keep going. If not, why would anyone study and practice if absolutely nothing is to happen? This is likely not an effective teaching tactic. It is true from the perspective of Awareness that nothing happens, that awareness shines ever-present despite any veiling of mind that eclipses its light. Nevertheless, to speak of THAT is always a concession. It is enough for her to repeatedly ask, “to whom do these many thoughts belong?” To find their source is to find natural luminous awareness. Rest there, and the rest will take care of itself. One does not need to silence thoughts, but one does need to return over and over again to the ocean of pure awareness within which thoughts come and go. Only then will Awareness make itself known-as an aha moment-an “experience” of clarity-emerges from the darkness of confusion and ignorance.

[@ferdinandocoluccelli9574]

Well, "who" needs help? not the Awareness that is already perfect. The "person" then? The only effective help it would need is about "how accept itself as not-the-real-self". do you have any recipe for that? 🙏

[@davekay7221]

@@ferdinandocoluccelli9574That there is someone at all in need of help exists only in mind-a “perspective” of an apparently localized self. A curious dance of reflections and refractions of mind. Awareness is. How does one localized within a dream wake oneself up? Only the dreamer awakens. Whatever momentum impels a dream impels the apparently “real” life you live. Both dreams will play out as they are destined to. To step out of the shackles of karma, one must continuously withdraw any and all apparent experiences into the ocean of pure awareness. Over and over the enquiry, “to whom do these experiences belong?” The “I” or “I am” awareness is the natural state. Remain there as often as possible. When “you” rest there, the rest will take care of itself.

[@ferdinandocoluccelli9574]

@@davekay7221 I agree. There are several ways to let the delusion fall. One of them is what you suggested. 🙏

[@jameslewis5131]

Dogs are more enlightened then human's they totally live in the moment. not overwhelmed by thoughts and living on pure instinct and emotions.

[@hempfu]

cats even more by there posture ...

[@Avinash7802]

Maybe because they don't have that sense of personal doership.

[@jenikond4822]

Thank you Rupert.

[@johnburman966]

For me this opened the door again. I used to be in' it' as a boy....when watching the shimmering water....when fishing.....time...hours passed in stillness.....found it again. Wish I knew this 60 years ago.

[@stelladonnelly2832]

Same here, I'm 78, but "knew" it around age 10, but didn't comprehend fully what it really was and reliious conditioning kind of overwhelmed it.

[@amazingamirasbooksandhobbi2366]

Just be!

[@hectorventura1762]

Wow!

[@JennyRSTeam]

Thank you! With love, Rupert's team

[@victoriafirmenitya1242]

Thank you!🙏🏼💖

[@JennyRSTeam]

You are most welcome! with love, Rupert's team

[@nicholasmcdaid9143]

Absolutely correct

[@kathrynphillips3710]

Thankyou Rupert 🙏 you explain everything so beautifully ❤

[@SamuelEiche]

The fish story is hilarious! Thanks for that 🐠

[@JennyRSTeam]

Most welcome! With love, Rupert's team

[@justjamie333]

Newborns are definitely enlightened 😂😉❤🙏

[@Knaeben]

You have to have self-reflexive awareness to be enlightened. Otherwise, you could say cats and dogs are enlightened. But you can define words any way you like.

[@justjamie333]

@@Knaeben in other Words, you need Words to Be “enlightened” and whomsoever has no Words, cannot Be enlightened…👍😍 Words, words, words….the source of all Things! John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God….

[@elisabethk7103]

Thank you❤🙏

[@plumeria66]

I think Michael Singer, author of Untethered Soul, would be helpful to this woman’s question. His videos are very practical about how to release disturbances and surrender to the moment. They’ve been helpful to me.

[@LG-jz3tj]

Yes love it

[@benjaminchew8442]

Hi Rupert, ever since I started watching your videos, I was able to tap so much into my consciousness and discover that I am Awareness and it all felt so good, but now my mind seems to be clamping down really hard, and it's like there's an entity in my head that's constantly over-reactive and causing all sorts of clenching or tightness in my body, it makes me unable to burp or fart or poop easily, it's amplifying the pain I feel from all sorts of things and feelings, and it's affecting my life really much. When I try to talk to this entity, I always get the same answers, it wants me to suffer, and the reason it is here is because of all the consciousness work that I did, and that it is killing it, so it wants me to stop, but I have already stopped for so long, almost weeks, but this entity is still here, and it's just making life harder and harder by the day, I'm like having constipation and bloating just from the fact that mind is so tight that it won't let me release, and my entire life is now centered around finding ways to burp and fart and poop. No matter how hard I try to make peace or be friends with it, it just stays silent, and gives me no answer, and whenever I even think about anything that's slightly triggering to it, like abiding in God consciousness, or meditating, or simply being jolted by sudden movements, and noises, it just goes absolutely nuts, and clenches up completely, making the top of my head feel like there's a clamp on it. I really need help on this, have you or anyone here encountered such a phenomenon before? And what would you guys recommend I do to put an end to this? Is there a way to come to peaceful terms with it? A way for it to just let go if I would stop the meditations? Do I just give it time to calm down? It seems worse and worse each day. Do I keep on practicing meditation regardless of how painful it is and maybe it will be gone forever? But it just feels worse and worse the more I do it, and it always comes back, and it feels wrong to be forcing things like this. I feel like my life is really going to end if I don't find any solutions, anyone who has any idea what's going on and what I should be doing, I would be so grateful to hear from you!

[@k14michael]

Don’t pay any attention to “it”

[@alexegan8996]

Meditation is good for me and I do feel clearers and better and connected to nature and other beings so I’m confused as to why Rupert says forget it

[@richieroberts1588]

Rupert says forget about teachers...etc etc...then an advert pops up....😂....I really enjoy watching Rupert and took this today as a message to myself to take a break ....but in the words of Arnold Schwarzenegger....I ll be back ! 😅

[@JennyRSTeam]

Thank you for the pause. With love, Rupert's team

[@jinlancera]

For those people who have no problem focus at the moment, quiet mind is not a precondition. Otherwise, it's hard to achieve peace.

[@ferdinandalexander8053]

Peace is not something to be achieved. Peace is YOU. Its already present fact. There is no such thing as the power of now, just Power that is Now, literally! Now, Reality, is not a student of Itself. One cannot become what One already is. A so-called separate "you" will never achieve peace, live in the Now, or be more present. Now is already now. The Present is already present, indeed All Presence, and It is the One present, alive, and aware right here, now. Now is You.

[@jinlancera]

@@ferdinandalexander8053 Knowing the fact you mentioned doesn’t directly help those who’s minds are full of the mental pictures of the past or the future. People need solutions.

[@ferdinandalexander8053]

@@jinlancera If one is going to speak or write on what is real, true, or valid one must start with WHAT IS. Surely one can't start with what is-not, as is-not means not present, not being, not existent. There is but one All, one Reality, one Now, one Infinity, the One here, now. This One is Alone, the Sole Self present, hence It precludes there being another. In Reality there are no people with separate minds, with a separate consciousness, a separate life, a separate intelligence. What Is can't be divided up like a pie and place inside a so-called thing called a body. Life is not a possession. Life is All There Is. What appears seems to appears within Life, that is the Infinite One Itself. It's not possible to put Infinity inside of a so-called finite body. To What Is there are no appearances at all, there is only Its only boundless presence. This is the only "You" there is, if one chooses to use that word. There is no solution for that which is not present, not being, not existent.

[@jinlancera]

@@ferdinandalexander8053 There’s a solution, called “meditation”, but it still takes a long time to leave the mental pictures alone.

[@ferdinandalexander8053]

@@jinlancera To speak of what is real, true, or valid one must start with WHAT IS. The word "is" means, present, exist, having being. The only other seeming option would be utterly false - starting with what is-not, in other words, non presence, non being, non existence. There is but one Infinity, one All, one Now, that being the One that actually is. Truth is true because IT truly is. Reality is real because It really is. As Now is what All is, It is the Alone One, the Sole Self present, precluding the possibility of there being "others." Life is living, Existence is existing, is Jin Lan or Ferdinand involved in making that so? Of course not. Now is All, the singular invisible, immeasurable, alive Substance existent, indeed is Existence. Has Changeless Reality ever needed a solution? Does All have a problem? There is only Infinite Mind, this one Omnipresent Intelligence. No separate selves, no separate so-called people each having their own Consciousness. There is only Pure Consciousness. One cannot become what One already is. To seek a solution in the future would be futile, as the future can never be present, only the Present is present. Past and future are simply passing speculative thoughts. One cannot think about Now as that would require time of which when it come to Now there is none. Time would be when it is not Now. When is that? Never! Of course, one is free to disagree with all that has been stated here but this will have no impact on WHAT IS, as WHAT IS is All that is.

[@claudelebel49]

Nothing has to change in order to Be,

[@davidmickles5012]

Dont meditate in quiet.. Meditate in the chaos of life🙏

[@KayInMaine]

It would be the same thing as sitting on the beach and listening to the ocean. The ocean is loud! That loudness can put us in a trance...helps us to relax. 😎

[@devanshudesperado]

There is no path but only a fool doesn't follow it. There is no practice but only a fool doesn't do it. There is no veil but only a fool doesn't purify it, train it, master it and gain non-attachment to it, so that he can go beyond it.

[@ferdinandocoluccelli9574]

I AM such a fool. 🙏

[@pilargarcia6724]

Muchísimas gracias!!!!❤🙏😊

[@sunisagotirat1332]

🙏🙏🙏.....dank you..💝💝💝

[@heather6511]

Ramana is quoted as saying " Call of the search" someone/ something understands and also is pondering, who is hearing this and in that hearing who is letting go... surrendering the search? 🎶🌬

[@hansludwig4732]

Or “call OFF the search” maybe?

[@heather6511]

Yes that’s it…typo error… ‘call off the search’. Thank you

[@vintorez9145]

This touches me deeply. But how can Rupert say to forget about the thing they are 'doing' during the retreat?

[@brigitteh4825]

I think Rupert is likely pointing to 'everything is already here and now, as it is', and there's no need to look elsewhere, nor is there anything to be found and nothing to do; just to see that and all will be revealed. It's not really helpful imo.

[@luizfbw]

It's about stopping all efforts, cause as he said, if we think we have a condition to first be achieved before peace can come we are delaying it, we already are enlightened, we just need to stop, be open and check that it's the case. This kind of teaching usually comes to the ones that area years on the path and did all the explorations, but still feel they are away from it. For newcomers he would give a different say. Rest in being, allowing it to show to it self.

[@jamescleary-px7qp]

Love this ❤

[@frontsidegrinder6858]

Ma words: The very secret is, there is no secret at all, you are already it.

[@mindfulkayaker7737]

You must seek first the kingdom of God and all these thing shall be added to you.

[@annemurphy8074]

There is nothing to be added to "I AM" and nothing to be taken away. "I AM" is the kingdom of God that Jesus spoke of and we are all "I AM" but saying any of this is saying too much. Language reduces everything to concepts, ideas and imagery. BEING casts no reflection, nothing sticks to it because "it' is not an object. We are nothing and everything simultaneously.

[@jesusdm]

Would like to get more context… if I stop meditating, reading and doing my practices, the ego takes over and I usually go back to unconsciousness.

[@devanshudesperado]

We meditate just to be. An exclusive time for just being us. If we dont take out time daily to meditate then it would be tough in the beginning to grasp this non dual truth present everywhere within and without. So it is very important, even after one realize the truth. Never abondon ur practices of stilling the mind. Never miss a retreat opportunity. Never shy away to pay obeisance to ur guru. Never stop doing good deeds.

[@ferdinandocoluccelli9574]

... so "you" will become stronger and proud of yourself. but maybe this is not what exactly should happen. 😉😂 we don't need to meditate for being what we already are! maybe meditation could open your limited consciousness. maybe meditation could give an illusory sense of knowing something. but here the point is instead to let go of something: the false image of yourself. and this is a different story ... 🙏

[@stelladonnelly2832]

@@ferdinandocoluccelli9574 Agree, somehow to feel one shouldn't miss a retreat or feel one has to meditate regularly, seems more to do with disiplining the mind, not quite the same thing as realising what we are already.

[@davidnicholls100]

'Forget meditation, teachers, self-inquiry, non-duality'. Now I’m really confused! With respect, what is the point of putting up these videos if they’re not going to help?

[@hansludwig4732]

They don’t help the mind! They invite the moment as it is

[@kennethwilliams4169]

It’s as easy as falling off a log but at the same time it’s so hard

[@kderules]

First you have to climb onto the log.

[@samc6231]

"Discover a Seven Day Meditation Retreat with Rupert Spira" "SHARING THE NON DUAL UNDERSTANDING". Later... "there is no non dual understanding" and that meditation? it's useless. Cute word games or shifty, even non sensical? Mystical irony only goes so far imho. That line starting with "People talk about the non dual understanding". "People"? Seriously?? That has to be one of the most in your face absurdities ever witnessed. And defenders argue oh it's perfect, it's customized for her etc. But you could say it's less like non dualism and more like a weird multiverse where whatever Rupert believes changes depending on the person he's talking to. That lady clearly has an entry level grasp of it, she just needs some patience. I think what we saw here almost borders on cruelty. If a person understands the principle that All is One, they have the foundational non dual understanding, and it deepens and matures over time. And that's that. No such thing... baloney!

[@WildSatsang]

🙏💜

[@JennyRSTeam]

Delighted. With love, Rupert's team

[@innerlight617]

1.45:" there is no non-dual understanding." My own experience is different though. The deep non-dual understanding has been the major factor in finding inner peace. We are all aspects or manifestations of a single indivisible whole or reality.Our sense of separation,of individuality ,is due to an illusion. There is only a total functioning of the manifest consciousness and there is no individual entity. All happens by itself, including the idea of being a doer. That's all.

[@davekay7221]

The Absolute is neither dualistic nor non-dualistic. “We are all manifestations of a single reality” (as compared to separate realities) still represents dualism, as does all knowledge which defines “this not that.” Nonduality begins where knowledge ends, since all knowledge is inherently dualistic. Only in silence, beyond mind, beyond knowledge, will nondual awareness make itself recognizable to the apparently localized self.

[@davidalbro2009]

​@@LifesInsightI think a non-dual teacher would disagree. In this world I am you and you are me in the sense that a hand and a foot are apart of the same person. Neither the hand nor the foot are even a person, but apart of one person. In the same way my person is not a real self just as your person is not a real self, but we are both part of the one and only self. In that way you are very much me and I am very much you.

[@highonlife4700]

Sir I have one humble question: How do you explain 'Gurukripa' (Grace of Guru) and Avatar Tatva (Manifestation of pure consciousness within finite body)?

[@harjotmahal8985]

Awareness undirected is Gurukripa. Manifestation of pure awareness begins simultaneously, instantly. To the extent one can remain in being to that extent there is Guru kripa working.

[@rarjungle]

"What you've been seeking for all these years will just emerge quietly from the background of your experience. Nothing sensational, nothing to tell anybody about...no marvelous experience." I have to disagree. From my experience meditation and spiritual path has at times led to profound joy and realizations about the nature of life that I definitely would want to talk about if someone were interested. Also many stories of enlightenment from famous teachers are much more beautiful and joyful than Rupert's description. Rupert is hardcore stoic I guess though. Don't understand his attitude really. But he does have some good teachings sometimes.

[@niloc1414]

All conceptual. Be god/awareness and know you are still

[@niloc1414]

@@LifesInsight How do we answer one another without having to use concepts?

[@niloc1414]

@@LifesInsight I agree. Whilst I had wonderful experiences initially now it's just moments of small experiences of clarity - the smile behind the smile. And being kinder and forgiving.

[@Jimmy-el2gh]

Something can happen.

[@mkh2799]

🙏

[@kathyryan7611]

💖💖💖

[@4kassis]

and yet there are all these stories of people having "breakthrough experiences", moments that changed profoundly how they live their lives. what about those?

[@ferdinandocoluccelli9574]

there are people who fall madly and passionately in love, others who don't happen like this and instead live a peaceful love. there are people who remember dreams and others who don't. there are people who have wonderful experiences and others who... don't need to.😊

[@KymLincolne-jz5yz]

❤

[@IAM-mc4gb]

☀️💛🌻

[@BecomeConsciousNow]

I find this very confusing.

[@davidalbro2009]

For sure. To be fair you don't "need" to meditate or do self-inquiry, etc, but there sure do help the process. It's like an analogy I came up with. Say you want to visit a temple. You can take a car or a bus or take a plane to get to the temple, but in order to actually enter the temple you can only walk inside. The same is true with spiritual practices. You can meditate, do shadow work, take spiritual medicine, but ultimately you have to identify with presence. That is only ever the last step to awakening.

[@kiranmysore6890]

I disagree in the sense the general person who dont have any knowledge abt spiritual seperate self without undergoing some methods or techniques to understand nature of mind then to know the inner silence it just not happen as such as we understand by saying 'BE PRESENT'.

[@jacquesboutelet8643]

Have you heard of the experience of RESTING IN THE SPIRIT ?

[@AllahHuAkbar-r8r]

So i should stop watching my mind

[@icontrolmythoughts4712]

That what you want, you already have. Allow it to be. Not giving attention to your thoughts is one way to stay present. Being present is the key. and one way to get there is meditation. Ruperts explanation is a bit lacking.

[@stelladonnelly2832]

Its just one way - I feel Rupert answers questions according to the state of mind of the questioner, he would probably put it differently to someone else. People are all at different places in their understanding,

[@lindaj71]

Rupert makes “concessions” depending on the person he is communicating with. Such is the lack of language that is unable to adequately describe reality.

[@dommccaffry3802]

Rupert is so down and dismissive , and , frankly, disrespectful to the countless people through the ages who have found meditation extremely helpful , and in many cases , life transforming. If he was saying just that you do not need to meditate to realise non duality ( whatever the hell that is ). That would be one thing. But he kind of just dismisses it out of hand. Apparently you do'nt have to do or realise or understand anything ??!!!! So , i do"nt know why all these people do'nt save their thousands of pounds, and stay at home with a glass of nice wine , and stroke the cat. Maybe watch the garden grow.

[@davidbrickman4880]

He’s speaking only to the woman who asked the question, evidently perceiving that, for her, these concepts and activities are obstacles.

[@pheryad]

So why post this personal interaction video to youtube?

[@evavalverde7142]

​@@pheryadThe video can be useful in case there are other people who can identify with the woman in their processes. It's been very useful in my case, for example. There are as many apparent paths as humans.... 🙏

[@niloc1414]

@@pheryad because a majority of vids are responses to individual's questions.

[@taoteching9577]

Meditation and spiritual practice are for stubborn, arrogant people who cling to their concepts and refuse to make things easy for themselves out of pride. Its good to be dismissive and shatter their illusions. It may be uncomfortable at first, but you know whats more uncomfortable? 50 years of your legs falling asleep trying to follow your breath or repeat some stupid mantra

[@darylbernard3414]

perfecttly said. i cant be taught

[@No-self_No-problem]

🙏

[@LifeDeathandStuff]

❤