you got worked (Reacting to AEW Forbidden Door HOT TAKES)

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[@DrDirtyLeggz]

I was gassed at the Arena and I did some laps. Missed the Willow match and took a break to get food during the Jericho match. Sitting down for all 14 matches is detrimental

[@tonythepokemonguy751]

As someone who went to mania 35 I felt this cause I did the exact same

[@parsath_2584]

Naito absolutely does not try as hard on US shows. By his own admission he doesn't care about being a star in the west. And by his own admission has never watched any American wrestling. Which ironically makes me respect him more, because man openly does not give a fuck.

[@ItDoesntMatterReally]

This is true, but I also think it's that he just doesn't care about AEW. His bout with Moxley at NJPW Strong's Windy City Riot in front of about half the crowd in attendance for Forbidden Door was actually good.

[@parsath_2584]

@@ItDoesntMatterReally he doesn't. He didn't care on ROH shows back in the day either. He works hard in Mexico though, he just isn't interested in American wrestling. When he feuded with Jericho he kept insulting him by saying he knows nothing about him except he was in Best of the Super Juniors.

[@ItDoesntMatterReally]

@@parsath_2584 Someone also pointed out last year in his multi-man bout at Forbidden Door he came out in the dreaded t-shirt and took fewer bumps than Sting. Didn't even grace the crowd with a Destino finish. Love me some petty Naito antics.

[@ethangoldstein8063]

I'm okay with a 4 hour show but I'd prefer to have it begin at 7

[@beardedbronco]

Creative control is a myth. If everyone in AEW had creative control nobody would be sitting in catering

[@CulEdz]

Ricky Starks being able to say no to a Big Bill feud. Miro being able to say no to losing to anyone he doesn’t want to. That’s creative control.

[@kennethgrahamjr5597]

​@CulEdz no just do wanna work fans be logical

[@raduconstantin7289]

​@@CulEdz Isn't creative control but more wrestlers trying to put presure on the others.

[@CulEdz]

@@raduconstantin7289 no that’s literally creative control. You can control or influence creative. No creative control means Chad Gable being Shorty G or The Fiend losing to Goldberg. Neither Gable or Bray wanted to do it, but did it anyways because “no creative control”.

[@RApollos107]

The best thing about the Zero Hour is that it's available to watch anytime you want. You don't have to watch it when it is live.

[@DMofPuppets]

WWE getting hot and improving has really shown how much people didn't want an alternative. They just wanted WWE to be good, and that's fine. They should just stop watching because they sour it for those of us who are really enjoying what AEW is doing.

[@hoemalone]

Or they just aren’t happy with the alternative that AEW is offering.

[@sodlaflare]

More people need to hear this

[@PowerPackers90]

Brian Zane even mentioned this in his "Monday Night Impact" video a month or 2 ago. The mindset with fans wasn't this will help grow TNA. It was "competition will make RAW better."

[@parsath_2584]

People view wrestling through a more limited lens than other forms of media. There's room for both Hollywood Blockbusters and indie films to have an audience. There's room for Taylor Swift and Dream Theater to be considered successful whilst appealing to radically different demographics. But because pro wrestling has been a monopoly for over 20 years, some people think the WWE way is the objectively right way.

[@kinnikuboneman]

I think people just want to watch good and interesting wrestling and WWE has the most interesting stuff going on right now

[@TheGreat_Kramer1]

I think Mone was telling the truth and trolling at the same time.

[@mistervancleef]

Love these videos!! Thank you, Steve! You’re the man!

[@projectgraham414]

Punk had creative control too, and he was talked into winning the title (which he didn't really want), so I'm not too worried about Mercedes. She's not Hogan, and I'm not too concerned about her abusing it. If you're not worried about the Bucks, you should pay no mind to this

[@Jason_from_cal]

The Bucks have helped destroy everything they touch too

[@Roric_The_Red]

Oh we were all worried about the bucks years ago 😂

[@fscorpion678]

everyone has "creative control" it's just basically that they can talk what they think works for their character

[@vegetalover9297]

she's worse than Hogan

[@chriscollins550]

She is worse than Hogan. Also to soon put any title on her. Just more killing the product.

[@DamonHardin]

Always appreciate the content and your interaction with the community. 👍

[@tytakamura]

Wild Theory! I know its insane. John Cena joins Solo’s Bloodline, In a shocking Hogan NWO fashion. Imagine, Face Roman vs Heel Cena Cody vs Cena, Orton, & KO vs Cena Imagine, Final-Boss Rock vs Heel Cena The possibilities are endless, more than likely we’ll just get the typical “Cena” experience. Most will say “why would he?” I have trust in HHH and Cena to figure out a figurative path. Just a thought I had at 3:30am

[@quothetheraven79]

Hey I made the thumbnail WOO HOO

[@AngeltheAnswer]

Bushi Road wanted Mercedes to be their first Strong champion so idk why anyone thought they wouldnt want it on her now

[@Bayley4ever]

yeah Sanada and Evil are the only other two it seems that are at the top, but they didn't deliver the numbers apparently. Naito was super awesome, haven't seen him wrestle in a while, though. Haven't watched New Japan in a while either. It is in a rebuilding period, that is for sure.

[@ItDoesntMatterReally]

Pretty much anything past or current LIJ is over right now in New Japan. Shingo, Sanada, Naito, even young Tsuji. I think Evil's starting to wear out his welcome with the HoT antics though. Did it enough to get he and Moxley voted out of the Dominion main event.

[@Bayley4ever]

@@ItDoesntMatterReally I have seen Takagi, but not really getting into him. I know he is popular. I like Hiromu Takahashi, I know he is a junior.

[@underscore5708]

nothing aew loves more than building up a great heel only to turn them babyface and ruin what made the fans like them in the first place

[@princealigorna7468]

Mariah May after that match: "I'll take them both on I'm hardcore"

[@bryguytyguy]

At this rate Steve is a pro-Sasha troll

[@AzumiLP]

I wouldn't put the belt back on Sanada, they pulled the trigger on him WAY too late! once he left LIJ and joined J5G his draw and star power just kinda...fell off, and that's coming from someone who was a huge fan of his. I know he's still young but put the belt on Umino, give him a run and see how it goes, cause the audience love Shota.

[@mydogsnameislucy768]

People’s hate boner for Mercedes is downright fascinating. lol

[@kazkaze2456]

i love it, its so funny, they are so invested in everything she does & says.

[@Marcus-xu7hn]

I like that even tho Mercedes took willows belt willow is still doing something

[@emeraldninjalink6312]

4 hours for the big shows is fine, but for a show like forbidden door(which I feel is lesser than shows like all in and double or nothing) should be around 3 hours.

[@thevoicelesswriter]

He argued that it's Forbidden Door so it should be filled with exhibition matches. It's a PPV. You would think that people want the matches on PPVs to feel different from regular weekly television (where exhibition matches with other promotions also happen), so the matches on PPVs should push a story forward or end a story.

[@HoosierJ219]

@@emeraldninjalink6312 I think they should make Forbidden Door a two night event especially since AEW partnered up with CMLL, and Stardom

[@WhiskeyFiend]

I'm sick of people trying to pretend Women's wrestling isn't less athletic men's wrestling

[@WrestleJuice]

you're sick of it?

[@silxix2599]

As long as she loses, there's really no problem.

[@KURSEDSOULS666]

I didn’t buy the ppv but I will say the zero hour matches were fantastic

[@Rcurtis777]

I don’t get how Tsuji, ZSJ, Kidd, Titan, Hiromu etc aren’t in the newj main event scene

[@ItDoesntMatterReally]

Tsuji's won NJ Cup and had two world title matches already, so I'd say he's technically main event. I don't know what the deal with Zack is. He seems loyal, but maybe he doesn't draw domestically. There also might be a fear he wont draw globally either. Kidd's only been in NJPW proper for a little over a year now, and while he's great in-ring and has an awesome persona, he's not a draw for western fans who aren't already watching or Japanese fans just yet. Titan splits time between NJPW and CMLL, but does awesome when he shows up for junior tourneys. I think after the Dominion debacle they're starting to value juniors more, especially now that the heavyweight division is lackluster. I kind of want this year's G1 to bypass the R3M and other young hopefuls involved just so Naito can win and challenge Hiromu for Wrestle Kingdom. Everything LIJ past and present is over in Japan, and Hiromu's very deserving of his flowers. His goal all year has been a title shot against Naito. I say give it to him.

[@Justanotherjobber]

I was excited for MJF's return and they have really let me down. Now they are going to feed another returning original to Sasha😂 wtf are they thinking. They make it hard to care when the people you want to see are wasted.

[@DarthBearistotle]

We do gotta watch Zero Hour, we stan Willow in this House.

[@gustavoclarindo101]

Agree with @FunkySpaceManIslans 😂😂

[@tonythepokemonguy751]

Good ole JR like the post match of Mina/Toni

[@brendanflaherty9409]

Thought they sequenced the matches perfectly there was just too many of them. cut jericho and the elite trios and its pretty ideal

[@validationboy]

Trash Stanks is doodoo. Always was and always will be.

[@seanqualey8024]

I got a hot take, Mercedes Mone is the current WCW Hulk Hogan in the women's division. It seems like she has to have a championship to prove herself that she's the best of all time.

[@mutedmayday]

She's nowhere close to that point yet

[@lesterama6110]

That's not a hot take, almost everyone agrees on that. My take is that she's working everyone because of her CEO character

[@PowerPackers90]

I mean, she has the midcard belt. Hogan came came in day 1, took the world Title, and didn't give it up for years.

[@thevoicelesswriter]

@@PowerPackers90 She has two championships. After only having four matches since joining AEW, she has won two championships.

[@centristamerican7845]

WCW hogan in aew was when punk came back from the triceps tear for those couple of months

[@mutedmayday]

Remember you don't have to watch Zero Hour

[@thevoicelesswriter]

10-11 matches for every PPV is still too much.

[@Queenlunaloveswolfking]

Nobody is putting a gun to your head to sit 🤣

[@VanezBane]

MJF has the same problem Bray Wyatt had back then, long drawn out promos with no substance and a character that goes nowhere. hopefully he gets an engaging story soon. Vaquer&Mone seemed to have no real chemistry. Vaquer was great but Mone fumbled all over the match.

[@kidneystonermusic]

I don't even like AEW but I watch the PPVs so I know what Cornette is talking about 😂 Shingo vs Bryan was awesome, and I dig that Stephanie Vaquer a lot

[@mike112789]

How sad, you watch so you can have a old racist rant about how much he hates the product.

[@kidneystonermusic]

@@mike112789 that's part of it. I'm also addicted to keeping up with it, even though I stopped watching weekly in 2007. Like an abusive ex I swear will change back to being good to me one day. But I know better.

[@klawstecno2083]

Jim is awesome! I think Shingo vs Danielson was okay and Stephanie Vaquer carried the entire match against Mercedes, but what a great wrestler she is👏🏻

[@JACKXK]

@@mike112789 This toxic attitude is why many people will be happy when AEW folds.

[@grammysworld5449]

​@@mike112789 Jim would actually sit down and talk to the kids at his SMW shows and most of us were black or Hispanic.

[@thevoicelesswriter]

Why is Zero HOUR an hour and a half long?

[@Cenzo1130]

Who cares? Like is this where wrestling discourse is? Too much free wrestling?

[@kennethgrahamjr5597]

Don't watch it

[@DeuceTreyz]

Mercedes Mone = Dollar Store Sasha Banks

[@liltaxer]

I dont understand people complaining about the zero hour, like dont watch it? its free on youtube and twitter and if there is a match that intrests you, watch it later then?

[@thevoicelesswriter]

10-11 matches for every PPV is still too much, especially when a lot of these matches should just happen on Dynamite or Collision instead.

[@liltaxer]

@@thevoicelesswriter This I can agree on but to say it was a 15 matches card when 5 of them are on the zero hour and pretend that u cant skip them is a bit disingenuous.

[@Surv1vor1993]

Mone is absolutely the Hulk Hogan of the women’s division. She’s a double champion after only 3 matches and is immediately getting a championship celebration ceremony on Dynamite this week; whereas when Swerve won the world title, he didn’t get his celebration until the Collision after the PPV

[@chriscollins550]

Just killing the product more making decisions like this.

[@KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva]

I think MJF has peaked in AEW. He'd have been way better received if he'd gone somewhere new like New Japan or WWE. Punk comparing him to Miz was on the money because if he doesn't leave AEW or wildly reinvent himself soon, I see him settling into the same rut that the Miz has mostly been in since his failed world title run: sporadic bursts of "yeah this guy is really good at character stuff, why did he fall down the card?" in between years-long stretches of do-nothing midcard goofiness.

[@reymondlopez7468]

So your best guy MJF gets a 10 minute opening match. Ridiculous. He should be headlining instead he’s being wasted.

[@Rcurtis777]

Mjf doesn’t care about forbidden door, he made that evident in his match

[@kennethgrahamjr5597]

​@Rcurtis777 look at cuhz face

[@BAYBAY_316]

After hearing TK say he is happy with creative I fear my personal deadline of ALL IN will mean no more AEW for me. I'm just tired of hoping for change and TK being delusional.

[@Carlt0nBankz]

What change would you like?

[@kennethgrahamjr5597]

Plz let us kno

[@WillS724]

Khan is terrified of not getting his entire roster on a card so he doesn't get upset employees. And also doesn't want his multi million dollar investment in Mone having boo boo job face with her losing to Baker.

[@JakePayneWrestling]

What I worked you Steve? 30 Second squash

[@HoosierJ219]

I think Ospreay should lose to Daniel Garcia this week. So that way we can tell Ospreay's downfall and go on a redemption arc

[@ericsmusic5927]

No one asked

[@user-ei3ux3pd7z]

I asked

[@jaredarmstrong385]

Why is forbidden door? What is the purpose of having a PPV that features multiple people no one in America has ever heard of before?

[@mutedmayday]

I knew everyone except for the CMLL wrestlers. The other wrestlers have been around for a long time. I'm sure people know more than you think

[@parsath_2584]

Do you ask why they hold a show in London, which Americans can't attend? Or are you actually capable of understanding that there's an international audience?

[@catholicguy3605]

​@@mutedmaydayit's the opposite. Lot's of people don't even know more than half of the AEW roster.

[@jamarbracey3778]

It's a gift to fans that actually know these people. The maniacs that hit the net and watch/stream/download foreign shows and indy shows/ppvs. I think it's dope that they acknowledge they people exist instead of acting like American wrestling is the ONLY wrestling. If it's not for you don't watch...it's literally that easy.

[@jaredarmstrong385]

@@parsath_2584 No because the show in London is intended to feature people who actually work there. It’s just getting them in front of a an international audience that doesn’t get to see them live very often. Putting your top talent in matches with people your audience doesn’t know is the exact opposite of that. And it’s not bringing in new eyes because everyone who knows who these people are is already watching AEW anyways.

[@bluwng]

I feel Mone is either really lucky or really good and she isn’t good. Her being strong champion is not believable and her squashing people that could eat her for breakfast and spit her out.

[@Ian-Omega]

You sound kinda like the people who are telling us that Biden won the debate. Massive amounts of cope.

[@benjaminspear9708]

This is wrestling, not politics mouth breather.

[@Magic7ball]

Seriously fr so skibidi cope glazing like a sussy cringelord

[@robertm6590]

Nobody won...

[@jordancourtney9142]

All these remarkable women and somehow Britt Baker is gonna get featured tv time.

[@LordBlakeWhitehouse]

The number of matches is fine. Especially if AEW wrestlers get PPV Bonuses so more matches equals more wrestlers getting money.

[@thevoicelesswriter]

Then why not just put the entire roster on every PPV? You get a bonus, and you get a bonus, and you get a bonus. Everybody gets a bonus!

[@Cenzo1130]

⁠@@thevoicelesswriteryou mean like wrestlemania? 😂😂😂😂😂

[@tsdqhussain]

Wwe manipulate the pop and boos, sometimes i see a dead crowd, but there is huge pop and some people join the sound. Heyman segment was very good. But keep this in mind. Plus just look at the difference between wwe crowd and aew crowd, wwe crowd is mostly kids and their families.

[@centristamerican7845]

That disney-lite feeling is the reason why I can't enjoy wwe. I get why it's successful though.

[@grammysworld5449]

So the piped CEO chants never happened?

[@tsdq512]

@@grammysworld5449 CEO chants are in the music. not extra piped in.

[@grammysworld5449]

@@tsdq512 that's still manipulation

[@tsdq512]

@@grammysworld5449 You Lost. Admit it.

[@gulraizbhutta]

AEW is Awesome

[@markula_4040]

Zero Hour is for those who didn't buy the PPV. As for the live attendance, they can check when the actual PPV starts on cable TV and then plan to arrive just before then. Problem solved.

[@DaDude95]

Meh show

[@TheGreatKingChiba]

@4:30 - i would definitely say its within the realm of possibility that she has creative control and that she might actually be Hoganing this. This is the same chick who was manipulating Vince to get her way in WWE... so its not out of the question that she would have duped Tony for creative control. He gave it to Punk, i dont doubt that he would give it to other big ex wwe guys.

[@floppynipps297]

MJF not being a heel the second he came back blows my mind. Adam Cole betraying MJF should have made him the most hateful version of Max we've ever seen but instead they pretend that whole story never happened. Now that I think of it I don't even know the last time I saw any of Undisputed Kingdom on TV

[@mike112789]

You obviously don’t watch. What you said makes 0 sense, MJF addressed Cole, and kingdom was featured last week and on pre show, with a video package online after PPV.

[@floppynipps297]

@@mike112789 I know MJF addressed Adam Cole but that's part of the problem. This was AEW's primary story last year and obviously both of their injuries got in the way but the fact that it has had absolutely 0 effect on MJFs character makes no sense. Also didn't watch the preshow or see their online clip so I'll admit that's on me