You Know What? I Kinda Miss E3 | Extra Punctuation

[@Neatherback]

That one time Yahtzee went to E3 was the most uncomfortable I've ever seen him more please

[@samlipton7872]

My favorite segment is after they watched the Modern Warfare gameplay reveal, which was the “clear house” mission. He looked shell shocked while talking about it

[@Neatherback]

@@samlipton7872 Yep, that one was a pretty haunting no knock raid. Shame the rest of the game capitulated on the whole morality thing tho.

[@harrylane4]

@@Neatherback TBF, when your core player base is the type of person who will see that sequence and go “that’s so fucking badass,” you’re probably not gonna get the message across no matter how hard you try

[@Axl4325]

@@samlipton7872 I was thinking exactly this lol, he came out and described it like a 1984 thought police simulator

[@Axl4325]

@@harrylane4 remember the AC130 mission in CoD4? Even half the developers thought it was the coolest shit ever, while a good chunk of them thought the whole sequence was horrifying

[@alfredojones1330]

Personally I think the reason people really wanted to go to E3 themselves is because as kids we pictured it as some wonderful playground where only the most special people can go and see all the new games coming out before the plebs back home could. Everyone wanted to be a part of that special cool kids club, not knowing the reality of the situation or what would happen when they finally opened the doors for every John and Jane Doe to come in.

[@Spo8]

As a kid who would read EGM and Game Informer cover to cover every month, this is exactly how I thought of E3 too. A glamorous, exclusive event where you could see games way before anyone else. This was back before it was opened to the public, too, which added to the mystique.

[@mattemattics5667]

I remember developers also being a PART of their communities at these events. You could communicate with developers in person, receive unique merchandise, try out things early. Also games used to be better. There used to be like 10 games revealed at each E3 that hyped us up. Now there’s maybe two each year.

[@Tustin2121]

I think part of it might be the mythology around previous events and details about old games coming out at those as well. Like when Nintendo showed stuff off at SpaceWorld various years, and how we as a community are kind of obsessed with knowing what our favorite games were like back then, before they were released, and what it could have been like to try them out and explore them ourselves. And so people want to go to these new events, hoping that perhaps something similar will happen in the future, and WE are the ones asked about what we saw or experienced back then when a game takes off in the future or something.

[@adamsbja]

I don't know if they still do it, but back in my day there was the CBS Toy Test. The video game portion was done at the Seattle Science Center and it was the high point of my summer. Taking a trip out there and getting to play all the new video games before anyone else did, then tell some adult with a clipboard how cool they were before getting in line again. I guess visiting my beloved cousins and getting to sail around on my uncle's catamaran was cool too but come on, how that compare to Donkey Kong Country 2?

[@franzfanz]

I wouldn't mind going to get riotously drunk on someone else's bar tab. The rest of the experience can fuck right off.

[@jordanj809]

5:35 I appreciate Matt’s choice of visuals. Glad he’s working on this series

[@BrunisPistol]

"the one subject I know a lot about" really coincided perfectly with the group wank pantomime. 10/10 editing

[@CaptainZark]

The only problem with matt being the editor is no one knows hes the editor

[@jordanj809]

@@CaptainZark the I’d say last XP got that point across well. Not everyone will see it but still

[@CaptainZark]

@@jordanj809 for now

[@Kufunninapuh]

It tickles me that there is a sort of grudge stirring in the escapist kingdom. This feels like a Little Finger-move right out of game of thrones :)

[@BFedie518]

No matter how many times he pulls the same joke, I'll never *not* fall for the "You were expecting a 'but' there, weren't you?" bit.

[@Rebar77_real]

He's going to drop an epic but(t) on us one day...

[@pieoverlord]

butitdoesn'tjustifybuyingaclunkynewconsolewithnobackwardscompatibility

[@CaylexT]

While this didn’t end up being Yahtzee’s thesis statement, he makes the very good point that E3 was an equaliser where publishers had to impress US, and now they’re all but off the hook to dictate to us how we should feel about their announcements.

[@danielgonzalez1565]

What also just helped publishers have an even bigger stranglehold on the consumers is KZbin getting rid of the dislike button so now publishers can spew crap out all the time

[@johningles1098]

Never underestimate my ability to dunk on publisher announcements for the most flimsiest of reasons

[@Haan22]

@@johningles1098 I like the cut of your jib.

[@Cortaal]

5:35 to about 5:50 is the best case of taking two things out of context and putting them together for a joke. I nearly choked on my drink as I started laughing.

[@superlol178]

Tha was great!

[@My_Naginta]

I pointed at the screen and said I do that a lot!... The gesture, not the act... Okay the act too.

[@metapotato5170]

truly an inspired editing choice (funnier that Yahtzee doesn't see the footage in advance)

[@RegretfulDeadMan]

That picture of Yahtzee and John Romero will never not be funny. John's staring daggers, and Yahtzee crying for help with his gaze.

[@jeremyrichard2722]

If I ever met John to be honest I might think he's a great guy, but let's just say I've never liked his attitude and consider his work to be severely lacking. Sure he does deserve credit for being a pioneer in some areas, but I'm not sure why he's been acknowledged for anything now, never mind receiving an achievement award. I mean I sort of expected Daikatana should have been the last word on John Romero.

[@Ray_D_Tutto]

Right after Yahtzee claims they got along.

[@jordanj809]

To answer Yahtzee’s last question: remember all those conferences where fanboys would cheer and chant at every trailer for literally no reason? That is why

[@AuroDHikoshi]

Bethesda?

[@theangryholmesian4556]

16 times the detail!

[@AuroDHikoshi]

@@theangryholmesian4556 WWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[@richardhutnik]

It is a religious ritualistic practice.

[@TonyTheTGR]

Remember all the half-baked bullshit titles that would never be anything close to even 75% finished by the holidays, but then released anyhow as the mediocre shovelware that you build this brand upon righteously tearing apart? That is why.

[@cathallynch8269]

The communal aspect is key. A lot of KZbin channels and journalists basically live in isolation but E3 gives them a chance to work together, as well as actual passionate game developers and not the scummy publishers.

[@Charles_Bro-son]

Out of the studio crunch, to the trade show crunch - yippieh!

[@bird3713]

Let's be honest, Yahtzee - as soon as you started talking about how big of a pain E3 is for the publishers, I knew that you want E3 to come back just to piss them all off

[@ng.tr.s.p.1254]

The bestest reason for E3 to come back.

[@AlmightyPolarBear]

It helps balance all the pissing off they make us feel.

[@mrshmuga9]

Let’s all laugh for the ol’ Yahtzee, ‘Cuz now he likes going to E3-hee!

[@TomoyoYumemi]

If they don't pin this gonna riot

[@PsyrenXY]

Comments you can hear

[@avramnovorra]

Dammit you got me singing the ditty 😂

[@PhlygoneonYouTube]

You know what? I think I actually like Extra Punctuation more than ZP. ZP is extremely witty, but it's going so fast I can't even really process the points in detail. Yahtz does a great job with the animations yes, but I mainly just listen anyways. The podcasts are nice, but they are usually less directed by the fact that there are multiple people with multiple perspectives. I think if there was a 20 min video of just Yahtz (or honestly other Escapist content creators) talking about video game concepts, that would be the ideal content for me. We'll call it, 'All the Punctuation'. OR you even do a Q/A and just take more time to consider the questions instead of trying to answer super chats on the fly. @The Escapist, I will gladly pay your monthly sub if you do this for me

[@theescapist]

Check out our Quest Log, Anatomy and In the Frame series if you want more essay content! We also previously did Ask the Creators as Bonus Content, but the edits were too large so we've shelved it for now, but would like to bring something similar back in the future.

[@geroni211]

EP feels a bit more honest, less a rehearsed script packed full of as many jokes as you can and more like a conversation that Yatzee has with the bartender at 4 in the morning while nursing a beer, half drunk and reminiscing the good old times

[@AuroDHikoshi]

Less about the games only and more Yahtzee's opinion over a topic. Why I like listening to Lets Drown Out.

[@E1craZ4life]

Extra Punctuation is about discussing general trends in gaming and gameplay, while Zero Punctuation is about showing how specific games either miss certain marks, fail to meet expectations, or do something right depending on the game.

[@potmeetkettle]

@@mitchhamilton64 As far as I can see, the last “let’s drown out” was 5 years ago. Is there another channel with newer content?

[@TS6815]

Yahtz, I'm surprised you've never done PAX or any other conferences .. with your pro-indie bent, it tends to be a much more indie-focused event

[@alleosussquirt8041]

Yahtzee every E3: "There are people who actually WANT to be here!!" Yahtzee now: "I kind of miss E3."

[@gianlucarisa1495]

"It was a tradition, and traditions are what bring us together as a community" It has probably something to do with my fast approach to my 30's, but that hits as hard as a truck and made me shed a tear. E3, despite the fact that under the surface is just another soulless attempt of the capitalist empires to create hype from consumer products, was the proof that life is made of moments. Moments such as make up excuses to your friends because you cannot tell them that you have to skip the beach to see the presentation of the Wii U, or trying not to shout at 4 in the morning at Sony's 2015 press conference, or the reaction of Etika at the Everyone is here trailer for Smash. This are the kind of things that make us feel alive, and deep inside, alongside all the cringe, we all miss E3.

[@marcosdheleno]

its the same as christmas, everyone knows its just a date to buy crap, but we still love it because even though its a souless capitalistic driven mess, its still fun and whimsical.

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

Don't include me in that "we" of yours. The death of E3 has been the best thing for game announcement festivals thus far.

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

@@aturchomicz821 The Wholesome direct cannot be praised enough in my opinion. It was the absolute best event by far and gave credit to so many interesting projects. Tangeant: While every other festival was focused on just releasing or announcing sequels or spiritual successors to games that already exist, the Wholesome Direct offered new ideas. Every other festival focused on announcing or displaying games that express conflict through violence and nothing else. Shooting, slashing, punching, exploding, bludgeoning, burning, etc is how the majority of games have you solve all your problems. It is awesome to see nearly 100 games where you solve problems with words, terraforming, cleaning, cooking, building, travelling, running, or generally helping. Violent games certainly have their place but they are definitely over-represented and the Wholesome Direct displayed games challenging that.

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

@@aturchomicz821 I actually went through every Steam Next Fest game then counted how many violent vs nonviolent games there were and what percentage of the top 100 belonged in each category. 24% of the Steam Next Fest games were nonviolent. 32% of the most wishlisted were nonviolent. There is an 8% gap in the market for indie games and when I went through all the big-name publisher events they were also lacking nonviolent representation (though I can't measure their interest.)

[@amritsodhi99]

5:40 whoever did the visuals deserves a huge raise😂

[@CamiloFHSC]

There is also the fact that a lot of indie devs attended E3, and it was an excellent place for them to make connections, or getting unexpectedly noticed. Because aside from the corporate hype-mongering, it was a social event attended by actual humans.

[@IndecentLouie]

I cant help but laugh pretty much every time I see the camera pan to John Romero, that intro has perfect comedic timing.

[@Kerim9991]

this mf has a snoo avatar in youtube

[@thetruemandalorian2637]

TRADITIOOOOONN!!!!!!!!! Tradition! Great video. Also, I always forget how tall Yahtzee is. I only ever see his little character or him sitting down while streaming. And then I'm like oh! Dude's tall!

[@jolan_tru]

Miss E3?! OK, Yahtzee Cloneshaw has escaped again. Anyone seen the real Yahtzee?

[@Timmy_T]

From what I've picked up over the years from different YT people, E3 always looks fun when it's just the expo stuff and not those EA day/Ubi Day/Sony day or whatever, because it sounds more like a nob measuring contest.

[@CaptainZark]

Its striking how forgettable the past few e3s have been. I think the real selling point of e3 was having all those hands on demos really showing you what a game was instead of just cheap pre-built trailers that in the end say nothing.

[@This-Was-Sparta]

I kind of relate to that feeling of missing the tradition, honestly. Ever since 2016 I've made it a point to watch the conferences together with friends, mostly to take the piss out of them. That was always a really fun part of the year for me, despite not being interested in 90% of what was shown, lol.

[@ashleywilliams4896]

And would you look at that, E3 2023 has been cancelled, Yahtzee didn't know how right he was

[@jaffy9939]

the title of this video got an eye roll from me, as I assumed this would be something only media types would understand but I admit he convinced me. it's good for media and big companies to have a neutral middle ground respectful discourse is the driving force of positive change after all

[@Shogunisdead]

"thought you were gonna say 'but' Yahtzee" "You keep falling for that one, don't you?"

[@abrahamnarvaez1730]

Show up once kills it and looks back on it thinking “you know you weren’t useless after all” that’s character development

[@meansofintrigue2269]

Man, Extra Punctuation is such a wonderful idea. I enjoy it more than ZP at times.

[@PaulDozierZZoMBiE13]

I'm that hopeless loser that always liked this sort of thing. WAY back in the 90's, I used to work for Best Buy. Everyone else would grouse and whine and groan about having to go to the yearly tech demos or previews, but I was always up for it. You get paid for the day of work and get to learn about all the cool new shit that will be hitting the shelves soon. I dunno, kinda cool from my humble perspective. Admittedly I've never been to E3 nor am I a journalist in any way, but I did have to go back and sell stuff to people and having information about what was upcoming was always like my little personal prize. For once in my life I was able to be ahead of the curve for most of the people who I saw on a daily basis. And I got to play games earlier than most. I got to see new gadgets before they were on the market. My own personal little world of neat toys and fun games. I even got to brag to fellow Halo fans that I got to play it weeks before anyone else in my group. Yes, I realize a ZP video space isn't likely the best place for that to be a feather in my cap since hating Halo has been a ZP staple since the word go, but it was fun for me at least. YMMV.

[@decusq]

I do miss E3 myself at times. I imagine it is a pain in the ass but to me i always saw it as a Gaming Community tradition where like minded gamers came together and bonded over what the new year was going to bring us. What previews we were gonna see, what new tech we might find, it was all so exciting to imagine how we'd get wow'ed at the presentations. Granted i've never been to one. It was kinda like how most people feel about TV award shows. Their expensive, tiring, unnessesary but it was still fun to watch and expiience it in some way. Wether it was seeing the cosplays of various game characters, seeing the journalists rub elbows with developers and publishers alike or seeing who WINS E3 and who screwed it up were a time honored tradition, and i miss that tradition remembering the highs and lows of some of them. I'll never forget when Resident Evil 7 was announced at the Sony theater and how it was presented as a found footage short film. I remember when microsoft introduced the Kinect and showed us some of the fun but janky things you could do with it. Every year had something memorable to it, and i miss that.

[@dr.badguyreviews6785]

I love and miss the E3 cringe as an always remote watcher. One of my most fun summer memories is me and a total stranger watching the EA press conference and going "surely it can't get any worse?" As they bring in sports cars and sports players galore with all the tone deaf appeal.

[@bsmarsch]

I was also annoyed when I needed to go to professional conferences, and I dearly miss them now.

[@sehbaanabbasi]

this video is a summery of Yahtzee and Romero coming to terms

[@BoondoggleMyCognle]

I do understand the perspective and appeal. E3 really is a lot like Thanksgiving for gamers. Everyone goes and we watch as the adults at the table lie to us about all the progress they made while secretly stealing the leftovers. The community aspect is probably the biggest thing I'd miss. But at the same time it's not enough of an incentive for me to wish it back. At least not the way it used to be. Maybe a hybrid of what we have now and what was before

[@stryke-jn3kv]

That is might be but as a Brit living in Oz-land it's got to give Yahtzee a shudder writing and performing for such an exclusively US-centric viewpoint. Least I bloody well hope it does.

[@sportsjefe]

@@stryke-jn3kv Yahtzee moved to the states a couple of years ago. That's how he was able to attend e3 at all.

[@sporf_sporf]

Has it been a couple of years now? I though it was just last year. My sense of time has gotten all messed up.

[@killerbee2562]

I get it, for as annoying E3 was, it was a novel experience different from watching trailers on KZbin.

[@katana2k]

"Suits with the beaming confidence of total psychopaths" That is the most accurate description I've ever heard.

[@ernesto4091]

Lovin the side series. I also miss E3. I'd contribute in if you guys want to go again!

[@HonkeyKongLive]

Yahtzee and Romero streaming Daikatana please.

[@ChrisMGermann]

I attended E3 2018 on a gamer pass, and i has a great time!! To me, it was basically the best video game convention I could've ever hoped to have gone to 😁😁 that said, I can totally understand those there on the clock didn't care for the gamer pass attendees... Despite being for what assumed was the love of the game, a lot of them had a really piss poor attitude, some seemed to only he interested in grabbing swag, talking shit about the free swag, and didn't seem too interested in all the new content. I've read they'd hound famous game developers, come in smelly, and just clog up wait lines at a place famous for being too crowded anyway 😑😑 Don't know if thar huge convention will ever come back, but I'm thrilled and content getting to be there at least once in my life 😁😁😁

[@stoney5137]

I think this ZP perfectly captures the feeling for anyone who's industry has a big convention (or 3) for it. Exhausting pain in the ass while happening..... God I miss it now.

[@bsmarsch]

I concur.

[@stoney5137]

@@javiermontiero4982 you must be a blast at parties.

[@StephenAslett]

Are there no awards for video game journalism? We need to create some and award them all to Ben Croshaw. He’s like a modern day Walter Cronkite with a a whole lot more cynicism and f bombs and commentary instead of fact reporting. Ok. That was a crap analogy. But you get the idea.

[@theescapist]

The games press likes to pretend we don't exist haha. Our documentaries don't even get included in lists when they're written about.

[@jenweatherwax7113]

I don’t understand the part about “late for the bus”?

[@paulrus-keaton439]

Oh I do. And he's not allowed to say it anymore.

[@MadnessBomber]

@@paulrus-keaton439 can you? I'm lost on it too.

[@00SmileTime00]

Does it help if I specify the bus they are late for is probably quite a bit shorter than most other buses?

[@hairyson94]

@@00SmileTime00 perfectly done

[@0x5DA]

me neither

[@computernoise2209]

I've been thinking somewhat about "E3 attendees" in the context of Overwatch 2 Beta, in that OW2 is going to be F2P, but you can get into the closed, incomplete beta by paying $40. I guess there are just some people who need to spend money, and not that gaming conventions are losing importance, corporations are finding other ways to knock the money out of weak and excited hands.

[@GuvernorDave]

5:39 editor hits a home run with the visual lol

[@rocko7711]

It’s nice to hear Yahtzee enjoying doing an activity You don’t get that a lot, him having a good time

[@DeanGWolf]

I may just be being stupid but can anyone explain the "late for the bus" joke?

[@dlanightfury]

I love the E3 days thumbnails, the first he looks semi-engaged, the second completely blank and the third completely bored

[@flightlesschicken7769]

I've definitely noticed a difference between E3 and not. Definitely prefer E3

[@sehbaanabbasi]

Yahtzee is angry because he has to stand in the line for 4 hours to play the new Resident evil

[@CasualFox12495]

Obligatory comment about how appreciated these slowed down vids are. EP and ZP are my favorite bits of content that are abbreviated "vowel-P" followed by DP but let's not give The Escapist any ideas.

[@ninesalive]

I didn't realise how much E3 meant for the gaming community until this Summer Games Fest thing started and was so painfully generic it felt like eating gray mush out of a gray bowl with a gray spoon at a restaurant named Gray's where the guy serving me is just a gray blob who doesn't speak. Please come back E3 we didn't understand how much worse it could get.

[@Skater901]

Absolutely agree on why would you want to go as a consumer? It's the same for me with other cons as well; I went to PAX Aus, and there were so many lines and waiting for things I just didn't see the point. Why would I want to stand around waiting for ages to do or see something when I could just stay home and spend my time better? Also I don't understand the ending joke about late for the bus? What's the joke?

[@ApocalypseMoose]

R.I.P. E3 😔

[@AuroDHikoshi]

Does Bethesda being in Microsofts grasp now mean no more fan cheering presentations from them?

[@NotHPotter]

Uh oh, Yahtzee's getting nostalgic.

[@kungfuskull]

What was the game shown at 3:35 ? I don't recognize it. It's got a dynasty warriors vibe but not quite 🤔 anyone know?

[@chwenhoou]

Another reason Yahtzee misses E3? He never got to ask Suda51 if he was the "51st result of an illegal Japanese cloning experiment to create the world's most auteur game designer".

[@Zogger568]

E3 from the common man perspective was just a fun get-together. You could meet up with a bunch of people who all shared similar interests, gawk at the cosplayers, and cross your fingers at a chance to run into a developer from a game you like. Maybe get a picture from them as well. Sure the primary goal was a giant sales pitch for the major studios, but we made a comfy shantytown around the big boys' mansion.

[@FishSkeleton-]

Around 2013 - 2019 people kept making comments about how E3 was a relic of the past and we should just have a bunch of individual directs like what Nintendo does, and that bummed me out. I like the big spectacle event that gets everyone in the gaming community all hyped about the same news, or when people get to see a bunch of indies showcased and they find something just for them. Getting rid of the event seems like a net loss to me, since it's a communal activity that brings the gaming space closer together, even if it is an advertising show at the end of the day.

[@sportsjefe]

Reading the comments has given me another data point to show that " a communal activity that brings [a community] closer together " seems to have less and less value. Half the comments seem to be proud of having 'cracked the code' on life by just not doing the stuff nobody wants to do, with no regard as to the deeper reasons to do it.

[@twocalicocats5511]

I feel like yahtzees becoming more conservative with his age

[@denmark1226]

That's fair, I miss the E3 videos

[@wheels_0N_fire]

I miss E3 aswell I prefer E3 than watching clips of games coming out.

[@jackmanson2719]

I enjoy Thanksgiving we play games and eat waffles

[@avataraarow]

I feel like thanksgiving was fun as a kid. I got to see all my cousins (of which I have many) and we’d usually like play video games or watch a movie. As a young adult it’s kind of like “we’ll half the cousins don’t live on this side of the country anymore, grandparents are too old or dead to host so it’s at one of my family member’s houses who I don’t really like, and the turkey is only okay, I only want mashed potatoes and stuffing.” And it’s like I’ve outgrown it a bit, probably will be different once I have kids of my own and my sister does too, but it’s kinda like “yeah I’m just here cuz I have to be” and last year I just skipped it altogether

[@Zombiewithabowtie]

We'll, we're all going to be missing E3 now... What it was, that is, not what it became.

[@jamesbevan9939]

0:21 - "There might be one next year..." Poorly aged things.

[@manderic5436]

Prewatching thought, HOLY FUCKING SHIT, that's ironic

[@adamd0ggg2]

A miserable experience with friends is better in hindsight than a fun time alone.

[@sporf_sporf]

The most memorable camping trip I've ever had was when it rained and then snowed on us the whole weekend and the only bathroom was a half mile hike. It was actually lots of fun to commiserate with my buddies as we threw snowballs in to the fire. We're camping and we're having fun! God dammit!

[@leftovernoise]

I got snuck into both sections of e3 when I was 13 and it was a life changing experience Edit: fairly certain this was in 99 or 2000

[@garsedj]

Yatz, i'm sorry :(

[@keith_garces]

Guessing you came to this after the announcement too 😭

[@brianvaira486]

I miss the idea of E3, but not the execution. I always had a wish to someday be able to go to something like that, but then I went to Pax and found that it's a much better version of what I would want out of attending e3, minutes the press conferences.

[@leetbeats5092]

I worked as a booth rep at e3 2019. It was very enjoyable and tiring. I also found it quite baffling that people paid to come to wait in line. It did not have fun interacting with the paid ticket guests.

[@evanhariadi3241]

E3 used to be the biggest time of the year for games I'd always look forward too every year. Where I'll see some jawdropping announcement that'll make me want to preorder it. Even with all the BS, it was still an exciting time. It's kinda sad that now everything is online and game announcements are sprinkled throughout the year.

[@AuroDHikoshi]

Nintendo breaking off kinds signalled that it's not the event that it was, Sony doing that different presentation then sodding off as well.

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

Except we just had a crap ton of game announcement events all within a 2ish week timeframe. And it was more AA and Indie than AAA which is amazing since AAA is the sector releasing the least interesting games generally.

[@kailomonkey]

Those late for the bus would probably also appreciate chatting with people about a subject they're passionate about especially with their heroes.

[@asfdasdful]

Yahtzee is the your will save the food series an allegory for your time as a youtuber, a video game youtuber? or am i connecting dots where there is none?

[@rsotuyo15]

NGL the whole aspect of playing the new indie games being replace with the Steam Game Fest to me is better, you can play the game at home (most people cant afford going to E3 or PAX, specially if you don't live in the US).

[@ZenofireX]

Ahhh, there's nothing quite like Con Life~ Where you just slip out of your normal life and enter a different dimension for three days. Where the vibe is uniquely exhausted and excited, where everyone understands how stellar it is to be here but also know the financial and time costing price they've all paid to be here. Like going on vacation to another planet but Starbucks just still happens to be here. I highly suggest it to anyone who hasnt tried it to definitely do so, so long as you dont mind feeling like you're a claw machine prize, leaving their comfortable plush friend bin, to be dropped into a hole that leads who knows where.

[@TommyDeonauthsArchives]

As someone who had the indignity of sitting through Game Awards 2019 and 2020... I miss E3 too...

[@domh4201]

0:55 is that guy eating a bowl of lemons or something?

[@DMTrance87]

5:40 Knowing now that Matt does all the editing and visuals makes this joke even funnier. I really hope yahtz sees this at some point.

[@DukeFerris]

I kind of miss them too, even though they were a pain in the ass. I went to like the first 18 or 20 of them starting in 1995. However the obscene spectacle of them, and the wanton wasting of millions of dollars really waned over time. Private concerts by mega stars (I opened for The Who by playing Rock Band on stage), driving racecars and tanks... hell they put me behind the controls of a trainer biplane over downtown Atlanta one time. It was made of cloth and wood. Then we went to Sega's Blink 182 concert. That was before we started making videos. Here's one now: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWOUhn17rqeYgac

[@marscaleb]

Dude I'd love to sit back and chill with John Romero. I don't think there's a (English speaking) game developer in the world I'd be more interested in talking shop with.

[@crayfishinbruhzil9871]

Yahtzee really is the Hunter S Thompson of video games

[@zacharyfreeman3924]

Just started watching but commenting to say I love this series. EP is OP

[@ethai1]

3:25 is even more relevant now, as it was announced that Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft (at least the xbox division) won't be attending this year's E3

[@StrikeWarlock]

Yahtzee confirmed tsundere for E3.

[@nigralurker]

I could be talking from a nostalgia point of view; but E3 was at its peak in the early-mid 2000's. I think what ultimately saw its decline was the over reliance on prerendered cutscenes over bonafide gameplay footage that ramped up with the Sony's 2005's PS3 presentation of Killzone 2, Final Fantasy XIII, and Gran Turismo 5. All games that wouldn't surface until 2009-2010 and nowhere near to what Sony had promised in graphical fidelity. Then you had the E3 2007-2008 dilemma announced after E3 2006 that saw a massive restructuring of the event and downsized it tremendously. Conferences were still a thing and eventually E3 reformed with its 2009-2010 conferences, but I don't think anything outside of that ever was restored to its golden age of public perception.

[@vincentvalen72]

I miss it for the genuinely hype moments, like the Re7 and Re2 Remake, FF7 Remake, God of War 2018 announcements. “You’re breathtaking!” And also betting on what’ll bomb and what’ll be industry mainstays. I was right on Horizon Zero Dawn :D not so much on Watch_Dogs. But then I wasn’t as aware of Ubi’s flaws back then. I’ll always remember Butler’s speech about loving games, not taking sides in a pointless console war and just declaring our love for the medium. It was always a dream of mine to present a game at E3. I think of that one dev that presented the Mario x Rabbids game, and they were practically about to cry knowing Miyamoto was there giving his approval. Now it seems the most relevant platform to announce something new is the game awards. Which as much as I appreciate Geoff’s passion, it just doesn’t feel as big a stage.

[@MatthewCSnow]

Another thing I kinda miss about E3 is that it was all there in one spot. Now with everyone just doing their own announcements it's very easy to lose track of all the livestreams. Heck, Devolver studios had their own livestream with suda51 with a few new good trailers and most didn't even realized it happened. Or how on one day IGN made a whole "BRAND NEW ANOCEMENT LIVESTREAM" and it was just *one* CGI trailer and a couple of interviews from the studio....that was it.

[@markkramer5740]

*Shrug* For me, E3 started dying in 2006 when they decided to close it off to the public after several failed attempts to punish smaller publishers for infractions that they ignored happening from the Big Boys. Having Square literally just leave a day early in 2006 was the cherry on the ghost town that was E3 2006. Sure, they tried to come back and they kinda did but 2006 is where the paradigm broke. Before 2006, you went to E3 solely because EVERYBODY went to E3. 2006 and the following years showed that you didn't need to....especially if you didn't have anything to show. Some of the decline was inevitable. Much like things like Burning Man, E3 had gone on long enough that people started putting all sorts of rules and codes of conduct on an increasingly expensive affair. There were also societal shifts such as everyone calling out the "Booth Babe" issue until they were removed as well. This had the net effect of dampening down the "party" atmosphere that people had journeyed great distances to partake in. (Now that I've written this out, I can actually say that this is why I stopped going to Office Christmas parties years before the pandemic.) As such, if videos like this didn't appear in my feed, I would have long forgotten that E3 was even a thing. It's certainly not "The Super Bowl of Gaming" anymore nor is it really a big party and, with the advent of easy streaming, it's not even a good source of news anymore. I don't have anything against it existing but I can honestly say that I don't care whether it does or not anymore.

[@Narokkurai]

I think the best part of E3 was ultimately the potential for hands-on demos and press demos. Games aren't movies. Trailers are only so impressive. What I want more than anything from a festival for gaming is people actually PLAYING some GAMES. E3 started to get worse as it moved purely to trailer shows and pre-recorded (and badly-scripted) demos. The move to online events only made that worse. I want a games show that's only for games that people can play or watch being played in real time. They can be early builds, they can be a bit unfinished here and there, I just think it's so important that people remember that games are things you interact with and experience with your whole body, and not just a neat concept with a shiny trailer.

[@chewface]

The people who always claimed to hate E3....were the people who never went.

[@EnsignGeneric]

Yeah, think I'll pass on attending E3 unless I trip backwards into an industry job that requires it. I went to Tokyo Game Show 2019, which seems to be on a similar level, and it was a chore. Most of the lines were full by the time I got there, only some of them were closed for the day and some just capped for an hour or two (but it hardly mattered cuz if you left and came back later they'd all be closed again). The playable demos I did get to grapple with all cut out right before the interesting bits, which made all the walking around to find open lines feel pointless. And I think this might be particular to Japanese cons, but all the cosplayers had to be registered and stand in a designated spot outside while people lined up to take photos. I'm sure there's a reason for this, and I'd have bet my last 10¥ coin it had to do with keeping the creepier photographers where the staff could see them, but it still made the whole thing feel stuffy. Then at the end so many people were leaving at once that the train station shut down, which given that this was freaking Tokyo is just wild in its own right. Mind you the building they set aside for indie games was a little more welcoming, but I can get that experience just going to PAX or Boston FIG.

[@sid6645]

People go to E3 the same reason you do Yahtzee. They just wanna hang out with a bunch of like minded, carefree fellows. Much like competition gatherings like csgo'a majors and stuff, its all a glorified get together for the larger gamer family. But its also much more than that. I wish I lived in the US or europe, Asia just doesnt seem to have the same stuff going on.

[@bfkc111]

I just think the substitute is extremely pathetic, leaving no impression, and for nearly all my years I was interested in the E3, for the intended reasons and reporting, and because I guess I arbitrarily never thought to be a sarcastic smart-a__ about it, which I happen to find extremely nauseating online in its omnipresence. (I'm just normally more negative than many, however in different and reasoned, even fairer ways, which this might have been a tiny example of, where I casually shat on all trendy ways, even without getting into my distate for Indie trends, yeah, that's right.)

[@k1n6n07h1n6]

I miss E3 just because it simplified all the announcement bullshit. All I knew was there was a week in June that I'd check at the end of the day to see what was announced and watch a few trailers. Now I have to see what week in June Microsoft is announcing their thing, and what weekend in May Sony was announcing their stuff, and what Sunday morning sermon in July or August that Ubisoft was going to disappoint the Splinter Cell fans again.

[@Dendarang]

It should be noted that this happened before, the supposed death of E3. Circa 2010 most of the major publishers pulled out of E3 and did their own press conferences and E3 was a shall of itself. But eventually the benefits of doing E3 outweighed the cons for the publishers and everyone came back and pretended like nothing had happened.

[@BenjaminSteber]

Wake me up when Nintendo includes playable demos in their directs.

[@bluemcneil5883]

new sort of subject/genre for an ep/zp but very interesting perspective. most gamers go to the indie dev zones like the Pax East/west/north/south lineup, or magfest for degenerate gaming. E3 is where newcoming gaming journalists go, most often. Cheers for this neat take on how everyone feels at these things. Did a lot of the early chapters of a certain heist novel play out here mentally?

[@namelessdork2256]

That's the appeal of conventions in general. Yeah, it's a lot of waiting, rushing, over charged shit, and you end up getting stuck in a crowd of unwashed balls of blob posing as humans, or smarmy smartasses who knows everything about a specific thing, and they won't shut up about it. Yet, you are there too, and you might end up annoyed, exhausted, hung over, wondering why there is a taco salad clogging the toilet in your hotel room, yet you still had fun, right? You get to talk with your mates, maybe meet up with new friends, exchange interests, experience new things that you can't get in your own home (not without shelling out a couple thousand mind you.). I hate to admit it, but humans are social creatures, as said. I hate humans with a burning passion, and yet I long for the days of going to a convention without worrying about the hot new disease of the week. I'd put up with all the smelly blobs ofnthe world just to be able to see a bunch of young people dressed up in ball gowns and tv heads.

[@jeremyrichard2722]

While very dated I will say that I felt even before 2019 that E3 should have likely been rolled into one of the larger comic cons. Even back before the horrible death plague I felt there was a crash of sorts coming and you can sort of see it now. I mean long before that even they had largely turned into pop-culture conventions and had increasingly little to do with comics except for some artists selling autographed prints and such. It seemed like video games were doing their thing alone with E3 while everyone else that overlapped into this was doing it all at things like San Diego Comic Con. As you pointed out, there was very little for attendees to do at E3, and let's be honest the middle ground was good for everyone as you mentioned, and if nothing else the spectacle was a tradition and I felt that alone sort of meant something for the community. So basically I just think they should have the E3 represented by the developers and publishers that are considered noteworthy setting up at a massive con, doing panels, having their own booths and displays (to be fair some have already done this), and perhaps just use E3 as the theme of one day of a multi-day con where they all have their major events at once much like they do now, even if other things are also happening. If nothing else the combined ticket would ensure everyone potentially had something to do. I mean just imagine, someone unveils a new horror game and if your disappointed all you have to do is walk across the vendor floor to where Rob Liefield or someone working for him likely will have an art table, you can view the monstrosities on display, and then experience almost Lovecraftian horror as you witness people actually lined up to buy some of this, perhaps even paying a premium to know the creation has been marked by it's creator, taking a sort of macabre ownership of something many consider not fit for human eyes.