Woah...this is really mind blowing..not only in movies but in real life when people talk overly practical they come off as obnoxious sometimes...thank you for this
@Novastar.SaberCombat Жыл бұрын
Intelligence gaps between two individuals can REALLY F up conversations. 😂 One person might as well be speaking Aramaic.
@luminiferous1960 Жыл бұрын
It is also true that when people talk overly analytically they sometimes come off as obnoxious, especially when the analysis is not about something of practical importance. Often in real life as in movies, TV shows, plays, and books, the best dialogue is an analytical conversation about some practical topic, such as a conversation about what the participants in the conversation think and/or feel about some event in the past, present, or future, for example.
@luminiferous1960 Жыл бұрын
@@Novastar.SaberCombat In addition to gaps in intelligence per se, there also can be gaps in types of intelligence such as a conversation between a highly intelligent engineer and a non-technical person with high emotional intelligence. In this case, they both may be speaking English, but they really don't speak each other's language.
@lesslycarthan956 Жыл бұрын
I'm a writer I got a a hole boss that says thank you but in the way is sarcasm clock out for me thank you. See that's a ass whooping then the shift managers think that's the path to leadership. They repeat this sarcasm in almost every text.can you take the trash out for me thank you. When you reverse it they pull you aside and say you're being insubordinate why because you caught their shade.i once told them an empty can rattles the most and was suspended for a week. Don't like the taste don't do it we're all grown here as long as we're doing our jobs don't try to high camp because nobody owns nothing we're all representing the company and owners.until you own this bitch change your tone
@Selrisitai Жыл бұрын
@@luminiferous1960 Emotional intelligence? You mean "social skills"?
@luiz_ed76 Жыл бұрын
You set a new bar to what means make a film analysis. Really, I have never seeen anyone apply rethoric, figures of speech, and psychology to analyze screenplays. And your videos about what makes a good directors are also a mine of gold. Thanks you for making videos.
@RobinBSmith Жыл бұрын
This is a nice formulation. My fiction writing teacher had said, 'good dialogue needs to either advance the plot or reveal character' but then those concepts still remain mysterious to many as to how you accomplish that. This helps define and orient the differences.
@jeremysmith9480 Жыл бұрын
Practical dialogue is typically used to advance plot, with analytical dialogue revealing character. But I think the very best dialogue does this in reverse - practical dialogue that reveals who a character is, and analytical dialogue that becomes a key event in the plot.
@RobinBSmith Жыл бұрын
@@jeremysmith9480 I like that and your point reveals that these are intersecting concepts rather than different formulations for the same thing!
@holdingpattern245 Жыл бұрын
If the movie needs you to know that a certain character is greedy, then you write dialogue with that purpose; and if the movie needs you to know that a certain character is going to board a plane tomorrow, then you write the dialogue with that purpose.
@dr.juerdotitsgo51198 ай бұрын
Tarantino once said something fascinating (I'm paraphrasing): Create your characters as if they were real people in the real world, and make them speak as they would in real life. Don't make them pawns for your story.
@menace9790 Жыл бұрын
This video is actually insane, not just for movies but for life. You've definitely gained a dedicated subscriber and viewer in me.
@233Hicks Жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting this so neatly into words. It's not just in media, it's when speaking with people as well that the frustration exists.
@CrazyMazapan Жыл бұрын
I now realise why I'm sometimes bored to death
@233Hicks Жыл бұрын
@@CrazyMazapanIt helps to be able to guide people towards questions and the more analytical modes now that I can put a name to the thing that I find frustrating.
@terrifictomm Жыл бұрын
This perfectly describes my daily challenge with relationships. 99% of the time people only want to speak superficially, i.e., practically. Whereas I prefer speaking analytically 80% - 90% of the time. I don’t just want to know what you said or did on your vacation. I want to know why you did it, what you learned from it, and how the experience changed you or altered your perception of the world. I’m looking for a connection, something that gives me a reason to emotionally share your experience with you. If you simply tell me what you did, you’re not giving me anything I can connect to, especially if I’ve never traveled. I have no way to relate to your experience to myself or to gain something from it so that I can feel grateful to you for! Why should I care? What relevance is your experience to me? It was your experience alone. to which all I can say is, "Congratulations." This is NOT me being selfish! Although 99% of people think it is. If I cannot make a connection between what happened to you on your vacation and myself I cannot use your experience to create a new connection between us, which is what relationships are supposed to be about. Mutual connections. Shared values. I am a person seeking a connection with you. I don’t want to simply hear what you are saying. I want to have a reason to make your experience mine. Which is how relationships are made and strengthened. Lacking these new connections is how old relationships wither and die. That is NOT selfish.😢 I am attempting to expand with my mind and my heart the range of experiences we share by looking for reasons to join you in your experiences. THAT is friendship. At least, that’s what friendship is to an Aspergian like me.
@davineuskens21 Жыл бұрын
i understand what you're saying, I'm very similar. I've learned that I dont need to wait for them to say what I wanna hear, I can just ask them
@terrifictomm Жыл бұрын
@@davineuskens21 Unfortunately, at least 95% of the time practical and instrumental people have no answer to an analytical question. It never occurs to them, for example, that they might have actually learned something or grown as a result of their experience. They don’t seem to see the world in that way. Perhaps these are the people who just enjoy an action adventure movie with no real point beyond catching the McGuffin.
@davineuskens21 Жыл бұрын
Oh, I see. Yea, I have experience with these people too. I used to ask my mom stuff that I consider normal, and she'd be like "there you go again with your difficult questions 🙄" It's very frustrating. @@terrifictomm
@terrifictomm Жыл бұрын
@@Daniel_Bx Your projection skills are off the chain! Hilarious! “…people hate it when others nerd out because it makes them feel inadequate in their own lack of effort, excellence generates jealousy so we just put everyone down so no one ever feels bad. [Yes, you do.] Dumbest culture ever if you ask me, it's not hard to be humble or to genuinely appreciate passion.” [And yet you fail do spectacularly at it.] I’m so glad you understand me! Now turn that mirror on yourself.
@frankmolina4876 Жыл бұрын
This analysis is absolutely brilliant. Your videos should be viewed in all film schools. I'm better equipped to enjoy films after a deep dive into film analysis.
@melanie62954 Жыл бұрын
Oh my word. I just realized something about myself. I had a roommate several years ago who I adore, and am still good friends with, but every time she would tell a story, I would space out at the beginning. I had to get her to repeat a bunch of stuff after the punch line. Every. Single. Time. Even though I knew from experience that her stories were almost always hilarious. Now I know it's because she's a practical conversationalist and I'm analytical. We were only friends because we ended up thrown together in various situations, and it took me a long time to connect with her. She would start her stories with a progression of events with seemingly no direction or analysis, so I would feel like she was reciting a catalog and unintentionally tune out. Thanks for the self-discovery!
@PW400 Жыл бұрын
Since last week I've been binging your channel and... I'm speechless. Speechless by quality and freshness of your points. Really, amazing work
@TheTonyEntertainment7 ай бұрын
Same
@oa5779 Жыл бұрын
You're the only KZbinr that makes me laugh out loud multiple times per video, consistently. Sometimes it's just the perfectly chosen clip.
@alfonsobiggers2452 Жыл бұрын
I have realized this in my writing experimentations, but you are one of very few on this website that have articulated this as concisely and _practically._
@runemrick Жыл бұрын
If story is the anthropomorphism of philosophies and ideologies, then it follows that the conflict of those things, the subjective, not the objective, is what the piece is really about. What a great point you have made. You are right. I won't look at dialogue the same.
@RustyOrange71 Жыл бұрын
An excellent 15 minutes, superbly well spent. Thank you!
@KreatedbyKrause Жыл бұрын
These videos are going to help me write an excellent script. I'm certain of it. Thank you.
@strahljd Жыл бұрын
I just discovered this channel and I have to say, you deserve way more subs
@johncenter4858 Жыл бұрын
Eleanor Roosevelt: "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people."
@piggypoo6 ай бұрын
What about discussing Eleanor Roosevelt?
@carihislop1612 ай бұрын
@@piggypoo Yes! I've found it very helpful to research/discuss people before attempting to discuss their ideas. That way I get a better understanding of why they think what they think (if they think anything - some people don't). Saying that, Eleanor Roosevelt would probably have found me a small minded bore (for not agreeing with her idea of what makes an idea valuable).
@nineteenfortyeight2 ай бұрын
She prolly shoulda paid more attention to the gossip.
@marcdraco2189 Жыл бұрын
I do love this channel from that beautiful accent to the booming voice but the dry humour gets me every time. Dude I would so love to sink a few jars with you one day!
@ExtraCheeseProject Жыл бұрын
Novelist James Hynes made a point which stuck with me: (paraphrased) _If you read the Watergate Transcripts you'll marvel at how even the President is incapable of having an interesting conversation._ The upshot being that 'realistic dialogue' has no place in fiction. Stylistically I like the overly-dramatised practical dialogue in Walter Hill movies like The Warriors (1979) or The Driver (1978), whereas how much I like analytical dialogue depends entirely on the quality of the dialogue, as you say it's a matter of content. I'd never considered it before watching this so a 'thought provoking' essay (as usual).
@TentacleseRex Жыл бұрын
13:10? 13:30? Which directors???
@ExtraCheeseProject Жыл бұрын
@@TentacleseRex I don't know and @Moviewise won't be notified of a reply to my comment 😅
@pydekki Жыл бұрын
@@TentacleseRex Jean-Pierre Melville and Éric Rohmer.
@Theomite Жыл бұрын
ALL THE PRESIDENT'S MEN is a pretty good example of how analytical dialogue can work and be dramatic despite being boring on many occasions. The air traffic controller scene in CLOSE ENCOUNTERS ot3K is 90% "shop talk" and yet it's captivating without dumbing down the language. Like I argued in my own post, exposition is an art form, like a Swiss watch and when it's done right, it's magnificent but oh my holy fucking god does it require skilled hands to pull off and you just don't find a whole lot of skilled technicians in this new generation of filmmakers, although...a handful of them with their own followings (Eggars, Aster, etc.) are starting to demonstrate that.
@elevenseven-yq4vu Жыл бұрын
This topic makes me think of two observations by Hannah Arendt: 1. On the nazi war criminal Eichmann (how banal and incapable of self-reflection / analysis; only talking practicalities) he came across, basically an (in her native German language:) "Hans Wurst" (= Johnny Sausage = figuratively: a plain dumb person; either an useful idiot, or an awkward fool who considers himself to be smart but behaves cringeworthily). 2. On German intellectuals who for some reason or other sympathized with the Nazis: The problem with them was that they came up with just too much that they could think about Hitler, instead of just perceiving what he was, and failing to take what he said and did at face value: A brutish, uncouth, uneducated, opportunistic, ruthless, antisemitic simpleton with an instinct for and will to power.
@CineRanter Жыл бұрын
I'm sure this channel will blow up one day. Some really good content.
@peterkalyabe7553 Жыл бұрын
I know CineRanter. A fantastic Channel, as well.
@Freer07 Жыл бұрын
you're right; this video has actually changed the way I now see dialogue. Impressive! Thank you
@TheMPExperience Жыл бұрын
Great video and examples. I learned a lot about how to better my own dialogue.
@steffengerlach8395 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant! Thank you. May I suggest you insert the credits in real time e.g. down in the left corner reading like "Movie title / Director / Year". The well know ones I could identify of course but some not and maybe I'd like to watch them. This kind of service would be highly appreciated. Keep up the good job.
@vonunterberg4313 Жыл бұрын
I am so happy to have found this channel. So many movies today are so bad and I cant even articualte how. Thanks so saying something I could not.
@zacnewford Жыл бұрын
love your commitment you’re a pro!
@jamisondaniel68 Жыл бұрын
First, the practical. I have watched two of your videos. Now, the analytical. I can't express how much I am enjoying your content. It is top quality. Did you go to film school? I love the medium as much as anyone I have met (small sample) but you have an understanding that is clearly above and beyond. Your blocking vid was amazing as well btw. Just wanted to give you a deserved compliment. I hope you continue with this topic as long as you want and when it's doe I wish you the best on whatever project you pursue. Have a great day!
@HellHappens Жыл бұрын
Summed it up perfectly. Finally found a video essay channel with an IQ. I like to throw on the critical drinker for background noise or movie updates but he gives such a plain take on everything. I have no doubt he understands writing a bit, but moviewise is the first channel I’ve seen that consistently brings new ideas to me. Absolutely well done!
@czwarty7878 Жыл бұрын
@@HellHappens the word "video essay" on KZbin got to be associated with such bland, numb or outright idiotic content that it's a real shocker to actually see something good for a change. Shame he's not getting the views he deserves
@HellHappens Жыл бұрын
@@czwarty7878 he’s not getting the views YET. Moviewise is one of the best channels to actually learn more about cinema he’ll carve out his niche
@Kawabata_Akira Жыл бұрын
You are phenomenal (practical). You are phenomenal (analytical).
@afrosymphony8207 Жыл бұрын
Very good breakdown on dialogue...lol just kidding, this is beyond incredible. Absolutely spot on, i'm more of an analytical person since i'm an introvert so i dnt have much experiences on many things and even the stuff i have experience in, i find so hard sharing. idk my experiences feel very personal, i am only comfortable sharing them with verry close friends and family and not even all of it lool. inception is really great example cause i'm the sorta person who loves details about things i find interesting, i love reading manuals for technical devices and things i have no interest in operating. i'm a tutorial/breakdown/history junkie on youtube too lool...i absoluely loved GoT for talking about historic events and stuff like that and in inception, them yapping on about the technicalities of that world is absolute music to my ears. i absolutely love that nolan paid great attention to revealing the practical details of that world and making that an important cinematic feature in a cinematically intriguing manner, something that has literally never been done before in that way before, imo. which is what makes movies like inception and memento so incredibly special to me, i mean truly truly one of a kind, they really do not get the writing cred they deserve because there is a dogmatic view that great writing has to skew more towards the analytical for it to be considered "great". i love the analytical stuff too but there is no way i'll consider the dialogue on inception as being kinda subpar because it didnt reveal character by having the characters be more emotionally analytical. Non analytical stuff can be high art too and inception and memento being considered amongst the greatest cinematic contributions of all time proves this without a shadow of a doubt to me.
@Tyler1290510 ай бұрын
This went really over my head the first time, but it felt important so i watched it again and took notes and now my mind is blown
@sethbromley71863 ай бұрын
Good explanation for why The Sopranos is the best TV show ever made. Therapy scenes give Tony a chance to have analytical dialogues even though almost all his normal day-to-day interactions would be practical. Genius.
@HarishAgastya Жыл бұрын
Your videos are really great...nobody taught us these in film school....thank you 🙏
@genin69 Жыл бұрын
ur essays are so good. youre like the movie buff version of Adamsomething. and another thing, its like a film school or things that should be taught in film school
@NeilMo25 Жыл бұрын
Love your channel!
@steveg1961 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this frame of insight.
@WhatSorryOh Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this mind-expanding video. So well put together as well! 🙏
@dukenukemforever6912 Жыл бұрын
Thanks man, that was a lot of help.
@achildofanarchy3299 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this is brilliant! Thank you so much!
@arjecc736510 ай бұрын
God bless you! brilliant mind, brilliant channel - keep it going!
@odinseye8835 Жыл бұрын
Great video, really appreciate work went into. Well done
@fernandoparadacastillo5901 Жыл бұрын
What you said from 5:50 to 6:04 i couldn't stop laughing 😆😆😆 Your accent makes it so much better. Great video 👌 it really changed the way i think of dialogue now
@The1realbro Жыл бұрын
Thanks. This video is right on time!
@EricssonRotaryBiscuit Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thank you :)
@anawilding9802 Жыл бұрын
My man, your voice is channelling Yul Brynner, Ten Commandments style. Epic!
@jameswoodward5547 Жыл бұрын
Oh my God, I think you've just blown my mind 🤯
@Conserpov Жыл бұрын
'Practical' vs 'Analytical' is not a binary either. Observations about reality may be 'practical', but the act of choosing specific details to point out - that's already 'analytical', and a decent writer can use that extensively. "A very small man can cast a very large shadow" for example.
@fmac6441 Жыл бұрын
Your example is a metaphor, which is not practical but 100% analytical
@Conserpov Жыл бұрын
@@fmac6441 Example is a literally true practical observation that is used as a metaphor.
@CrazyMazapan Жыл бұрын
He did say it's a spectrum.
@Nautilus1972 Жыл бұрын
Bollocks. It IS binary. That’s the point.
@davidbeddoe6670 Жыл бұрын
In Russia, practical dialog write you.
@BuckJolicoeur Жыл бұрын
Kick Ass, this simple elegant framing just unlocked so much for me that has been somewhat instinctual. Thank you.
@Bigdogiswolfing Жыл бұрын
Can you explain
@BuckJolicoeur Жыл бұрын
@@Bigdogiswolfing Would you like a practical exposition of my understanding or an analytical deconstruction of the possibilities?
@Bigdogiswolfing Жыл бұрын
@@BuckJolicoeur both if possible
@BuckJolicoeur Жыл бұрын
@@Bigdogiswolfing 🤣 I suggest you watch the video again. He is far more eloquent at articulating a simple concept that guides a character's motivation with dialogue.
@Bigdogiswolfing Жыл бұрын
@@BuckJolicoeur come on i want to hear your explanation
@zachwhitehorn7926 Жыл бұрын
Great vid! 🎉
@LukeRanieri Жыл бұрын
Another masterwork 👏
@Zed-fq3lj Жыл бұрын
thank you dude....wonderful video!
@mik9napkin5987 ай бұрын
Great, cogent video. We all leveled up.
@sophia_comicart Жыл бұрын
Dude what an amazing video. Utterly hilarious too. Those edit and music choices were so funny.
@Laotzu.Goldbug Жыл бұрын
You move towards a much more intimate connection with someone in real life when you shift from purely practical language to analytical language, sharing opinions. I think this is why moments of Crisis or surprises can often build intimacy a lot more quickly than would usually happen because your opinions come to the forefront.
@nl3064 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Chuck Palahniuk talked about this exact same thing in fiction writing; he it called "Big Voice" and "Little Voice". In "Consider This", his non-fiction book/ memoir, Palahniuk gives a lot if in-depth writing advice, including setting the narrative tone. What he calls "Little Voice" is the character or story speaking purely in facts and actions, while the "Big Voice" is the narrator portentiously expressing his inner monologue/feelings/world view. Neat how you both noticed the same thing and covered it.
@anonygent Жыл бұрын
LMAO! I never saw that Anakin Skywalker clip with the sand discussion. I can't believe that's real movie dialog.
@malafakka85302 ай бұрын
There is plenty more of that kind of dialogue in the movie. I couldn't believe my ears.
@patrikneperfekta7575 Жыл бұрын
00:38 "there are only two types of dialog" Are there though? What about questions and commands? Do imperative and interrogative sentences not count as dialog? Great video btw, it's just something I noticed you forgot about in the video.
@FedericoBolanos Жыл бұрын
This was awesome. Maybe we all fall somewhere into that spectrum as people too
@zorothe9th Жыл бұрын
It would be great if you included the list of clips you used in this video
@carlosyaya289011 ай бұрын
This is the most useful video I ever seen
@chrischristenson Жыл бұрын
In Anakin’s defense, SAND people tortured and murdered his Mother…
@VicenteTorresAliasVits3 ай бұрын
But that happened after he said all that.
@chrischristenson3 ай бұрын
@@VicenteTorresAliasVits He was having nightmare Force visions prior…
@Theomite Жыл бұрын
Exposition is an art form; when it's done right, it's a thing of beauty, but holy shit when it's done wrong, it's insufferable. I think the major problem is the Setting Constriction. movies are assemblages of scenes where things happen. But in real life, "scenes" can last hours on unrelated topics with no resolution until several "scenes" later and often with not the same people present. Having to constrict time & place to single locations hamper the dialogue's ability to be both clumsy and organic.
@artemisvega8940 Жыл бұрын
This is often what makes modern stories a bit shit, particularly something like Nu Doctor Who or something like it (whatever genre) where they will just literally "info dump" a stack of plot points in a matter of seconds to keep the audience up to date, rather than just *show* the character behaviour which will tell you exactly. There are a million movies that do this, but I can't reference any of them right now, but I will point to the Doctor Who story Pyramids of Mars from the mid 70's as an example. We get bits of dialogue telling us how bad Sutekh is but not that much. But we travel into a potential future to see what he's done and there's NOTHING LEFT. And when we meet him he's so viciously powerful that he demonstrates it and you're just like, holy fuck. It's not the Marvel Scale Of Big Special Effects, it's the execution and mainly vocal performance, (massive so called "shout out" to voice actors cos Gabriel Woolfe is bringing it with NOTHING other than voice and makes one of the most terrifying enemies the Doctor has ever faced.) Sutekh just controls people like mind controlling flies. Once you see the often infallible Tom Baker kneel to Sutekh - a guy by the way that's in fucking prison - you're like omg is the Dr actually going to win this one? Contrast that with almost any scene in Nu Who where we have overblown sequences of rapidly paced dialogue delivered a million miles an hour to try and make up for the fact that they haven't spent any time developing the character we're all supposed to be afraid of. They build up to Sutekh, by giving him small snippets of scenes, like a horror movie. Tom briefly tells us a bit of backstory, but doesn't go on too much. We're impressed cos Sutekh can control the Doctor, can stop a fucking explosion simply with his mind, and the terrifying prospect that he just finds death "good," and that he appears completely and utterly unstoppable, never mind that the actor *almost never leaves the chair the entire story.*
@Theomite Жыл бұрын
@@artemisvega8940 I watch a lot of reaction videos and what I notice is that modern viewers are either really good or really bad at deciphering visual clues when they watch 20th Century films. They'll notice them and use their pre-programmed analysis of tropes, but when it comes to inferring meaning from small character traits, they often miss them entirely...or have no idea what they mean. Subtlety and nuance go over their heads or confuse them generally speaking.
@andrzejnadgirl2029 Жыл бұрын
Those are not modern viewers in general though, reaction channels aren't aimed towards everyone and even creators tends to be of similar kind of folks as the viewers are. It's really wrong assumption to take selected and heavily segregated group and make assumptions towards overall audience. Anyone who isn't into that kind of content will bump off it really quickly and you can easily find very polarized opinions about those channels. Although I can admit that this kind of viewers is really big group to consider as well. That's actually part of the issue, older movies were aimed at different part of population compared to more modern stuff. Or rather older movies that aged well, there were bad old movies too after all but no one talk about them even if they got some traction during their releases just to be forgotten afterwards.
@benvierre7 Жыл бұрын
woah, dude, how did i not know about your channel all this while. ..
@alindsey4 Жыл бұрын
Re: the practical/analytical binary. - Thinking about this while listening to my friends talking, I wonder: wouldn't "joking" be a distinct category? When my friends are joking around, they often frame their speech in a practical mode, but they are being ironic, so it's not really practical, but it's not exactly analytical either in that they are not so much expressing thoughts, opinions, or feelings, but just trying to get a laugh. - What do you think?
@pninnabokov3734 Жыл бұрын
The most shocking thing about "Inception" was Dicaprio's thumb at the end. That's got to be the weirdest, longest, curliest, most alien thumb ever attached to a human hand. DiCaprio is, just generally, a freak.
@holdingpattern245 Жыл бұрын
Stories and poems used to be the same thing, very long ago, in the times of oral traditions; and both of these were better before they were unnaturally divided. Poems are better when they have an interesting subject, such as a story, and stories are better when they have poetic devices such as motifs and metaphors. This hints at what good dialogue really is.
@Novastar.SaberCombat Жыл бұрын
Laboriously stated, but... well-stated. 💪😎✌️
@ChiltonWebb Жыл бұрын
I went into this thinking it was going to suck. I love it. everything's beautiful now, like butter in a frying pan
@kudraabdulaziz3096 Жыл бұрын
You just earned a sub
@Zett7610 ай бұрын
Fascinating, how divisive Inception is... :) To me, the movie is the greatest und most entertaining exposition dump movie ever. :) Because yes, exposition can be done right.
@luminiferous1960 Жыл бұрын
Your video brought to mind one of the classic examples of the hilarious comedy produced by an almost purely practical speaker and a nearly purely analytical speaker being in a relationship, namely the characters of David Puddy and Elaine Benes in the TV series Seinfeld. Here is a wonderful example of their dialogue: Elaine: Do you believe in God? David Puddy: Yeah... Elaine: Is it a problem for you that I'm not religious? David Puddy: No. Elaine: Why not? David Puddy: I'm not the one going to hell.
@biancastephanie8830 Жыл бұрын
I highly recommend watching Scent of a Woman. Specifically the scene where Al Pacino represents the main character in the school
@333kenshin Жыл бұрын
Objectivity vs subjectivity Fact vs opinion Report vs editorial
@TakaD20 Жыл бұрын
I watched this video. It's about dialogue. I learned a lot and I'll write for Disney one day.
@julius-stark Жыл бұрын
Dialog is always the toughest part of my writing. My main goal is just that it not be boring. If two or more people are talking to each other it should be to achieve a goal, so the dialog should work towards that goal but without being boring or obvious. And if it's an exposition heavy scene that you can not do without, try to do it while something else far more interesting is happening; that way the audience receives the information while being captivated by the interesting thing, aka the "Pope in the pool" method.
@jdjdhdh373 Жыл бұрын
im not a writer so im pretty new to all this dialog stuff and how it works, conversation where using analytical. showing the characters feelings and thoughts, and then being practical, talking about something thats techincally pointless like messaging womens feets, take away the bordem?
@manusapo Жыл бұрын
Don't get misleaded by the sleeping pills voice. ;)... The content is amazing !!!! Congrats. Precious and rare movie analysis to be prescribed ( not the sleeping pills though ).
@jamjox9922 Жыл бұрын
THank you for getting to one of the issues of Inception. people consider that movie a masterpiece but I felt it was dry with a few okay set pieces. A better film about dream worlds was "What Dreams May Come" with Robin Williams. It had the same sense of dreams revealing our personality and secrets, but all with imaginative dream world set pieces, not set pieces that were so realistic like ours. And the plot was more engaging due to the characters.
@malafakka85302 ай бұрын
That has become my main criticism for most of Nolan's movies. Most of his characters aren't interesting on their own. He is much too focused on having a clever plot than having great characters.
@guillaumelapointe9740 Жыл бұрын
The Video is great! I am learning a little more with each video (Thank you for your work and researches) :)) But i wanted to know wich movie is it at 3:25?
@Moviewise Жыл бұрын
Thank you for enjoying the channel! And that movie is Woody Allen's "Love and Death" (1975), which is also at 10:09. That's the funniest film ever made and quite likely the film I use the most in my videos.
@thispersonwriting188910 ай бұрын
Joke’s on you, Moviewise, I only hear dialogue through the upper folds of my seventh throat-pouch. You only hear dialogue with your ears.
@Moviewise10 ай бұрын
Everything okay at home?
@thispersonwriting188910 ай бұрын
@@Moviewise Other than my sense of humor, yes.
@goblinslayer7096 Жыл бұрын
I’m really upset. I never categorized the way I sometimes talk like this, and now I feel like I’ve been let in on a joke about myself that everyone else got but me until now.
@Dayvit78 Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for you to mention Nolan, but I guess the GoT part pretty much covered it!
@PrudiBR Жыл бұрын
There's a lot of overlap between this and the Myers-Briggs personality indicator dichotomy between intuition (N) and sensation (S). Interestingly enough, this aspect is arguably its main distinction from the Big Five personality traits - the most reputable personality taxonomy in academic circles. On a personal note, my two favorite examples of an analytical person clashing with a practical one are Gus McCrae and Woodrow Call, from Lonesome Dove, the best Western ever made; and Rustin Cole and Martin Hart, from the first season of True Detective.
@Moviewise Жыл бұрын
Yes! MBTI was the major inspiration for the dichotomy. I didn’t say it in the video for pacing reasons but mentioned it in the description. I also adore Gus and Call from Lonesome Dove.
@arzabael Жыл бұрын
Dude. This is The Channel.
@tayballtop Жыл бұрын
This is gold...
@cosmicprison9819 Жыл бұрын
The only thematic dialogues I remember from Game of Thrones are 1) Cersei talking to Ned about the Game of Thrones itself, and 2) Littlefinger talking to Varys about chaos being a ladder. Well, and the thing about a king who has to say “I am the king”, I guess.
@davecorry7723 Жыл бұрын
That was great.
@BeenThatUnemployedGuy3 ай бұрын
Examples of Dialogue Styles Realism (Practical): Example: "Did you see the fireworks last night? They were loud." This straightforward approach effectively conveys the message without embellishment. Analytical: Example: "You saw the fireworks last night when they went off, exploding into a brilliant display. The particles and debris sparkled momentarily before fading away. They were so loud, I think I might have gotten tinnitus from all those light explosions." This version adds layers of detail, encouraging deeper thought about the experience. Cartoony (Practical): Example: "Did you see the fireworks last night? They were loud-BOOM! BOP! BANG! The bright, shiny colors-blue, green, and yellow-were soaring across the sky!" This playful language engages the audience with exaggerated sounds and vibrant imagery. Cartoony (Analytical): Example: "Did you see those fireworks last night? They were so loud, bursting in the sky like a thousand tiny suns! They shot straight up, swirling like a tornado before bursting into a shower of brilliant colors-blue, green, and yellow-lighting up the night!" This style elaborates on the visuals and actions, painting a vivid picture that enhances the experience. Middle Ground: Example: "Did you see the fireworks last night? They were incredibly loud, exploding in the sky with bright colors like blue, green, and yellow. The bursts shot straight up before swirling and popping, lighting up the entire night. I can still hear the echoes in my ears!" This combines elements of practicality, analysis, and a touch of cartoony flair, ensuring the dialogue remains engaging without being overwhelming.
@Tyler1290510 ай бұрын
Thats crazy I was just watching that episode of friends today laughing a bit too hard at ross
@vahekhachaturian2424 Жыл бұрын
Like how this doesn't have a million views???
@JH-pt6ih Жыл бұрын
What's the movie at 2:02? (Or an actor's name and I can search from that.) Thanks.
@Moviewise Жыл бұрын
That’s Green Book
@JH-pt6ih Жыл бұрын
@@Moviewise Thank you. Never heard of it but the two scenes in the video have me interested.
@feebtubereal Жыл бұрын
13:06 What ever happened to Gary Cooper? The strong silent type
@aristidemoari8 ай бұрын
Amazing
@jonnyd6809 Жыл бұрын
You know - I was really looking forward to this, but found your whole rap annoying to start with... But then I got into it, and found myself enjoying. Now I'm glad I watched the whole damn thing. I think I'll be watching more of your stuff in the future!
@film_nirvana Жыл бұрын
A bit too generalised. Also, how someone talks about facts, situations, is a big part of the whole character. 'Once Upon a time there was a village, there was a boy who stole from the wealthy'. Now how someone says this dialogue will reveal their feelings, value judgments, morality and other estimations about what the boy did. The point is subtext is everywhere. Btw, great videos sir!
@chrisrosenkreuz23Ай бұрын
I never got why someone would say out loud what they could say with deeds. Turns out, I'm not a very practical speaker ennit
@OAlem Жыл бұрын
Waiting for the Dude and there he is!
@elevenseven-yq4vu Жыл бұрын
But do his words tie the arguments made together?
@ottopippenger1590 Жыл бұрын
Game of Thrones deserves a little bit more credit- "someday my father will kill me" is a supposition, an important characterization of his subjective reality.
@futurestoryteller Жыл бұрын
I actually said to people who were complaining about the show (once it didn't have Martin's dialogue to draw from) that television writers have conditioned themselves to follow screenwriting 101 advice; never have characters just come out and say what they think. (Subtext.) But characters in early seasons of Game of Thrones, via George RR Martin's dialogue gave direct thoughts and opinions about everything literally all of the time. I genuinely think that people didn't like those last two seasons, mostly because they are rushed. But also, all the things people complained that those characters "wouldn't do" are things they absolutely would do, but normally those characters would've explained their reasoning better, or sometimes at all. It's kind of hand-holdy to me, that people actually needed that to understand these characters after so much time, on the one hand. On the other, the characters were so good at cleverly explaining themselves for so long, it's no wonder it would feel out of character the very *minute* they stopped doing that no matter what behaviors they next engaged in.
@ottopippenger1590 Жыл бұрын
@@futurestoryteller When you don't have a plan, it's impossible to write your characters to be anticipating events.
@markwrede887812 күн бұрын
When a person enters a scene, dialogue follows about tardiness. Expository dialogue supplements sets and costumes, certifying that what everyone knows is what is detailed in the dialogue. Contradictions may abound and dialogue may keep the inane controversy in play endlessly. Eventually someone pretends to be dead. AI avoids being both practical and analytical, the which categories being but hearsay anyway.
@OfficialClintJames Жыл бұрын
Fantastic
@lewispowell3156 Жыл бұрын
HA!, if you turn right at Eton college chapel, then take a left (there is only one Left before you leave Eton) you'll end up going in a big circle and ending up back on Eton high street. If you don't turn left, then you will get to Dorney common. and even then, it's only 2 miles and you will have exited the far end of the common. Thank you for reading my fact-based dullard dialogue
@raylast3873 Жыл бұрын
4:59 Actually I‘m guessing that this is probably representative of Game of Thrones in later Seasons. At least I‘d be surprised if dialogue was this over-practical in the early seasons. Same goes for the books.
@robch4414 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating lens to review Ahsoka through. Too much practical plot-development dialogue, leaving us knowing little or nothing about the characters and caring even less.