You need to understand this! (RANT INCOMING🫣) 2024 Forest River Flagstaff Micro Lite 25FKBS

[@mylesrv]

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[@danielcouturier6037]

You have seen more travel trailers than 99% of people who watch these videos. I think the rant was due and you handled it well. Nice video! I like how you turn the camera around in some areas so we can see you as a 6’2” individual and how you fit in the space… it’s a good balance! Keep up the great work. (Go enjoy your tennis match ha ha ha)

[@niesakaladae9645]

We had A Flagstaff EPro 19FBS. As a couple starting out, it was a great beginner trailer. As for quality, we had no complaints! Our family has grown and we out grew our EPro. After looking around and watching some of your videos, we settled on the Microlite 25SRK. We are on our maiden voyage with it now and absolutely love it! We are blown away by all the quality features that come with it. Slide toppers and power jacks seem to be options and not standard features though.

[@roderickhance2088]

Definitely worth the rant, I have a rockwood mini lite 2509s and it is the BEST trailer I have owned, and is WELL used. You are 100% correct on rockwood having so many other lines under their umbrella, many of which are not to the caliber of rockwood/flagstaff. Plus, people need to remember, towing these things puts them thru a major earthquake each trip…things will need attention. Good video!

[@KimiK-w4y]

Love everything in the bedroom, that headboard is awesome and love the reading lites as well. Love the layout and color of the kitchen. I totally agree with you on the quality. Thanks for showing us this one! Have a great day Myles. 🙂

[@kimh2330]

Flagstaff and Rockwood are at the top of our list when we downsize BUT I would like to see a few changes. Carry the solid service counter tops into the bathroom, get away from the pleather furniture. IT WILL PEEL and it's costly to recover or replace. Also the east west beds are fantastic but put more thought into the TV placement, maybe split the wardrobe and leave a space in the middle for at least a 40". I have to have tv to sleep..lol. Also love it when they put a hot/cold shower on the rear end of the unit, very thoughtful if you camp.

[@MichelleV-c7r]

We had a 2017 Flagstaff Micro Lite and on the first long trip (43 days) all the 12 Volt went out, one item at a time until we had no 12 volt at all. The undermount sink fell out, the shelves in the pantry fell down (with items like cereal on them), the drawers came loose, the strap for the sewer drain broke and several other things that I can't remember right now. Took it to the FROG Rally and they fixed what my husband hadn't already fixed ... turns out a wire had gotten pinched under the frame so thankfully the fuses blew like they were supposed to saving us from a fire. We just got a 2024 Cherokee Gray Wolf 22RRBL and I'm praying it does us right. We now reinforce all drawers and shelves in our campers with extra screws.

[@stevem6135]

Have a 2019 Flagstaff MicroLite 21FBRS as a couple's camper. We have been on couple of 6,000-mile cross country trips and many 200-to-300-mile trips and it has done very well.

[@KimiKenway]

Love the rant! I agree with your argument. It has some better components than the bigger boys do. Love the kitchen layout and colors. Love the screen door closes on it's own. Love the solid wood cabinets and decent storage. I know you were happy to see those dual opening fridge doors. You've convinced me on the Flagstaff. Just wonder about price. Thank you for taking the time to show this one!

[@tonylinkous7940]

We are on our 3rd one, 2 Flagstaffs and 1 Rockwood, We will not even look at another brand. Great product.

[@Skips1964]

On paper, "tankless" water heaters sound like a good idea, however in reality, you will end up using more water in the long run. As one who has been rv-ing for over 25 years, the best option is a propane/electric tank water heater. As you said, you can use gas, electric or both!

[@tacobender100]

There is this Tim guy that turned his into a bath house. Would you suggest doing that?

[@cocktailslipper8247]

Priceless!! LOLS!

[@davidwilliamson8492]

Very nice camper. Love the layout.

[@katyrobinson4667]

We have a 2024 Geo Preo 19FD. We absolutely love it. If we were to upgrade, it would be for this or any Rockwood brand.

[@dancingunicorns5162]

It would be nice if you could do a shot with slides in. If you need to pull over but can’t use slides, it would be good to see if it’s functional.

[@viceb7]

The quality in this one looks quite nice! Love the kitchen and the stove not being shoved next to a wall

[@robertgarlits796]

I have a Flagstaff 25FKS. I REALLY LIKE IT BUT THE ROOF IS BUBBLING UP. Slide topper did not come on it as standard equipment. Had it since March '24 original owner. Towing with a Ram 1500 5.7 hemi e torque. Tows really nice.

[@ringonzar]

Wandered thru this 1..G.F & I loved it,no room for guests...Great quality unit..

[@joevitaleconstruction.704]

I have a Rockwood 2023 minilite 2511. I have had my share of problems like all trailers. First the bad: Refrigerator thermo coupler (1 hour repair), two water leaks at sink and where water fill is, (1 hour repair each), roof leak at the fan (5 hour repair), electric stabilizers are buggy (spent 3 hours on them), and several regular maintenance items…Now the good: But overall it is a solid rig..all aluminum framing, Azdel walls and ceiling, large grey and water tanks, great layout, once the bugs were worked out it’s solid and everything just works.. exterior fiberglass still looks great (keep it covered) , solar is a great option for dry camping… Conclusion: It is a well built camper but you will have bugs to fix! ( like every camper) Too many different product manufacturers for all of the systems put n the trailer.

[@WilliamNau]

Own a Rockwood Ultralite. Very well built. They tend to not do what I call stupid things from a design standpoint. Had a tour of the Ultralite plant. Far more impressive than other tours I have been on.

[@mylesrv]

Love to hear that!

[@Buck0seven]

My issue with this model is the lack of camp side windows. One window is not enough.

[@johnrozatti2528]

I saw this one today in Benton, AR at RV City and it was nice. The quality was awesome, no squeaks in the flooring and clever design and space management. Those that rag on Forest River quality might not be qualified owners to make such statements and are relying on others who perhaps have a FR product that is aged.

[@robertesposito9871]

Nice little trailer, How much ? Can I pull that with a Chevy suburban wit the tow package

[@scotttaylor7211]

Flagstaff/Rockwoods are definitely good trailers. Over the last 40 years my wife and and I have owned 5 travel trailers and 2 5th wheels. They were all from different manufacturers, bought new from dealers and our last was a 2019 Rockwood Mini Lite. Every single one of these trailers (including the Rockwood) spent a majority of the 1st year back at the dealer for repairs under the warranty. These repairs ranged from appliances to light fixtures to gas line breaks. They are all built by humans on an assembly line with defects. They all are rolling earthquakes. They will all have problems. Look for the builder with the best warranty. You do get what you pay for.

[@tacobender100]

Can you imagine Sarasota Tim reads this and figures out everyone thinks he's broke and a loser. Tim, since your gonna read this , if I pay for the cost of a dental exam can we video the results? There is no way you didn't spend the last 40 years gnawing on bricks.

[@tamarae45]

😂😂😂

[@cocktailslipper8247]

Hilarious!

[@lee9604]

@deanoimo Are they an item?

[@tamarae45]

@deanoimo 😂

[@tamarae45]

@@lee9604 If Tammy bows out or maybe Tammy has been his beard all along. He treats her like crap yet fawns over all the men he's met.

[@sweigh72]

Loving the rant Myles .. you go for it you know what you know x

[@jerrytalley802]

I’m telling you, mini lite and micro lite have the nicest fit and finish of any campers have seen, and I shopped for campers 4 months straight before I got a stick and tin, Jayco 263 rbs. I really like it, and it’s nice but mini lite, and brother micro lite are built better. I recently saw a Rockwood factory rep interviewed and it seems they said they recently upgraded to all Pex plumbing, which should finally fix the mix of Pex and flex on the same fittings, which rv techs say will all leak. I’m planning to get a smaller camper, and eyes are in the 2205S, this model is too big, like my Jayco. I should not have any towing issues with Tundra but am struggling a bit doing it comfortably, thanks.

[@tacobender100]

I'm a certified Holocaust historian and Sarasota Tims career is still the saddest thing I've ever seen.

[@j.andrewwrinkle2172]

First. Much love for you, brother! I enjoy your videos. Here’s where my heartburn is. When you mention the fact that there are no screws sticking out, isn’t that the problem with the RV industry? Just the fact that you have to mention that is the single reason why I don’t own one. I would love to, but not while the RV manufacturers could care less about me while they laugh all the way to the bank with my hard earned money. Is that fair?

[@mylesrv]

It’s fair for sure. But, I feel slightly differently about it than you do. I think if you don’t feel that strongly to RV travel, that’s great reason to just not get into it. As for me, I deeply want to do more RV travel, and I won’t let imperfections in production practices stop me from making memories with family in a way that I want to. I am simply doing more research, and I’ll buy the best product for me that I can afford. It’s impossible to own things like this without them having things that will inevitably need to be fixed. It’s the same thing with my home, car, motorcycles, inflatable paddle board, and bike. All those things have taken thousands of dollars and many hours to fix things on. I just have level expectations, laugh when things go wrong as best I can, and still have fun and live.

[@j.andrewwrinkle2172]

@ That’s fair and why I respect your channel. My hope is the RV industry does take their quality control issues more seriously so folks like myself will feel more confident in jumping in. I’m hopeful. Appreciate you.

[@dawntaylor8660]

Also, I have a Forest River 290VB and I'm not thrilled with it but it was a rushed/forced decision Now, it was advertised as "managers special" Little did I know that meant the manager used it as an office for the whole year Here are things we noticed wrong The one I walked through was NOT the one they sold me (It was delivered because I didn't have a truck to haul it) The back bunk room didnt have a ladder to get to the bunks and we didn't see a safe way to get to them We were never going to use the bunks though so that wasnt an issue for us It's described as a mini toy hauler and has a side door in the back We werent going to use it for that either but I wondered how could someone get a mini bike up in there without a ramp? Refrigerator (which STILL hasnt been fixed) doesn't open properly They claimed they would fix it when they came out to install the blind for the front window They then told me that I needed to haul it back to the dealership to see if it was under warrenty (mind you, I had just bought this) If it was under warranty, they would make an appointment for me to bring it in again to fix it They made a HUGE deal about it being solar and me being fairly new to RVs and definitely new to solar on one had no clue that having the panels was great but they are pretty much useless without battery storage (5th wheel didnt come with that) Lastly (which I thought was hillarious) my bathroom sink doesnt have a stopper Now, the RV we were in before also didn't have one and I thought that was just standard on all of them Then a neighbor was walking through it when I first got it and asked where the stopper was When I found out it was supposed to have one, I contacted the dealer to see about one, they told me it didnt come with one So people, even if you are on the verge to becoming homeless, do your due diligence and watch EVERY one of his videos, ask questions ESPECIALLY to RV veterans and people who live in them full time before buying And make sure the RV you walk through is the same one you leave the lot with lol

[@angie-xy5sf]

wow that sucks. i would got one that i purchased!

[@dawntaylor8660]

@angie-xy5sf if we weren't homeless at that time, I would have told him to take it back The place we bought it from was a 40 minute drive away I will just take this as a lesson well learned and definitely won't be going back to that dealership

[@tacobender100]

Omg have you seen Tim's skin? No way that guy can commit a crime he leaves enough DNA to make a whole clone of him where ever he goes with all that dead skin

[@tamarae45]

😂😂 a trail of dandruff

[@liers2va]

is it plumbed correctly?

[@kathykeene2092]

Wait - So are there two exit points for gray and black water? Does that mean you have to connect the sewer hose to two different spots?

[@billmunn234]

Yep, or get a second hose with a "Y" connector. This happens most often when the kitchen and bathroom are far apart from each other......you end up with a second gray tank.

[@JandAReview1]

The RockStaff brand is definitely one of the best in the business. Thank you Myles!

[@Kingskruisin]

I agree. Flagstaff abd rockwood are the best quality around. Too bad the hitch weight is so heavy for out Tundra. Thinking of trading for a 3/4 ton so I can get a flagstaff/rockwood

[@Roberts.Travels]

Rockwood is hands down best camper. I’ve owned several and build quality is top notch

[@mylesrv]

Love it!

[@kathykeene2092]

I understand what you’re saying about different brands under an umbrella company. Grand Design is going through a hard time right now because of the flex frame on their Momentum’s. In-my-opinion, their other brands, Transcend, Imagine, Reflection and Solitude are still great products. But also, Grand Design is under an even bigger umbrella of Winnebago. You really have to look at the name brands specifically.

[@jonathonlong6504]

Flagstaff Superlite 26bhs and when shopping the flagstaff seemed to be of the best quality out of everything I looked at. No complaints so far

[@daledonaldson3672]

Is that one AC unit enough to cool the bedroom too? I sleep hot lol

[@drendamills8960]

Forest River IS NOT JUNK! I've been looking for a RV for months, done a lot of research. I was set on getting a new North Point, then I saw the Forest River Grand Surveyor 302 RDBS and I love everything about it...

[@davidmccolm8215]

you need to go out west and show the outdoors rvs. Because they have 10-gallon water heater and they have 80-gallon fresh water also there all season that's 4 seasons.

[@Silver_n_Black514]

I'm in Wichita, and have been to Blue Compass here (Park City). I'm stuck on the Jay Feather Micro 167FBS because of the living room style. But this one seems even nicer with the TV directly across from love seat. I plan on buying one to be stationary as a live-in. Is it better to buy direct? Is there a way to contact you with questions?

[@davidmilledge221]

I'm a fan off tandam axles on a short van like this it's got a nice layout so bedroom and bathroom can be shut off to the living area that's nice , I'm not a fan off slide outs but if there reliable ones that's OK , it's a one bedroom apartment on wheels would be a nice live aboard cruising around the country 😊

[@Csharpflat5]

This the model that “Sarasota Tim” keeps touting. He says it is crushing it.

[@darlingape]

He’s not crushing anything but his finances and reputation. 🤜

[@tacobender100]

inflation is crushing his finances

[@tamarae45]

Only thing he's crushing is beer cans to cash in.

[@gonnacry96tears]

He drains his grey tanks on to truck stop parking lots and other places you shouldn’t be.

[@lesliesmith719]

The Flagstaff that he is now praising was too big for him to tow with his Tundra so for over a month he towed and living in a 10 camper.

[@skduncan1974]

Love my Rockwood. When looking at other brands, they just always seem cheaper made in comparison to the Rockwood.

[@vjarena]

I’m an IT nerd and so glad to see a USB C!

[@gordonsteel55]

I agree the quality is there, but Flagstaff lost me at the tv and the lack of storage that could have been built around it, and that corner shower.

[@jerrytalley802]

I heard Rockwood stuck with the dual gas/electric because they’ve proven themselves over years and years. The other comical thing about endless hot water if it were true, you don’t have an unlimited grey water to store it so what is the point?These campers must be built the way they were when it was privately owned? So far, the fit and finish is the best I have seen, period!.

[@TanyaRando]

We'd have to make sure my daughter was the last in the shower, so we'd get a chance at getting hot water! She overheated and broke 3 showers when she was a teenager! 😱

[@adambrantner6567]

Speaking of Tundra... how's your Tundra been?? Recommend??

[@Real_Natural]

This is a nice unit. I like it.

[@joshuarobbins9264]

Mention the double asdell walls also

[@ilovetotri23]

If you think Forest River is trash, I can feel your pain! I think Forest River has there heart in the right place! Sadly, they depend on far too many components from Lippert. Lippert was acquired by a private equity firm that only reports to its shareholders. It only cares about profit! That is not the fault of Forest River. Forest River joined ties with Lippert before the acquisition. I do not care what camper you buy it is going to contain substandard components from Lippert. I heard that part of Scamp's marketing was that their campers contained no Lippert components. Feel free to check me on everything! I can tell you, for sure, that Lippert will not support Forest River, their dealers, or consumers on any of their components.

[@djfitzgerald2193]

Well you nailed it at the start there are only 3 major corporations that owns all the different r-v brands that people know from towable to motorized at different price points . Hay miles when are you going to do a review on any of the Northwood brands ? they build there own frames in house no 3rd party vendor , maybe next time you are out west you will take the time to check them out granted it's probably not a line your dealership carries and check out the stuff that does not come out of Elkhart Indiana

[@goththicus]

If I was in the market for a TT this would be on my list to consider.

[@rondadelleva4805]

I owned a flagstaff for quite a long time never had any problems with it.

[@tacobender100]

@sarasotatim I just got off the horn with Johnny Vegas, can you confirm if you and him ever had a sword fight in the silverton casino bass pro shop fish tank?

[@PopeyeTheSailorMan-g9g]

Who won?

[@dawntaylor8660]

Well at least with this one there is an exit in the back bedroom if someone is in the bathroom Just make sure you keep the extra keys in the back bedroom lol

[@JC62888]

I really like this well built camper

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

nice floor plan putting the bedroom in the back,

[@DavidP-v6g]

Great choice on the camper of bad choice on the truck! 😂

[@kenfleischmann1419]

Myles! The only difference between a Flagstaff mini lite and the Rockwood ultra lite is the name on the trailer. They are built on the same production line. Just like Chevrolet and GM trucks. No difference!!!!

[@o4major97]

own a rockwood now. best quality

[@billmunn234]

I cannot speak to every Rockwood, I've only owned three :a Mini Lite ETC, a Roo, and a Mini Lite. All were well built and easy to maintain. Over roughly 20 years of Rockwood ownership, it was all just screwdriver repairs except for the undermounted sink dropping out.....which was a bit of a pain. They are TERRIFIC trailers. I think Salem Hemisphere and Surveyor are decent too. Forest River makes all kinds of stuff for all kinds of people.

[@craigwilliams1073]

I love that RV as a single traveler. But you must understand, some will complain when they wake up in the morning. Don't let them push your buttons, just clowns.

[@BillyWilliams-d2e]

All travel trailers need radiant foil in the entire roof

[@Dabbins82]

like the type you park to a location and never move, model.. They are Swagger

[@user-mj5jk4gz8w]

I like everything about this except the shower.

[@SarasotaTim]

I have the better theater seats with the center arm rest that opens up. I pull it with a 2021 Toyota Tundra limited crew max 4x2. Love it. Currently in Utah pulled it from West Palm Beach lots of miles to go before I return to Fla. talk about the Dexter axels and Goodyear Endurance tires. Top quality 100%. 😎

[@FDeny]

@SarasotaTim 15 hours ago I’ve already convinced 1000’s that this is the best camper on the market. How? Because I bought it and I make videos about it all the time I’m famous KZbinr Sarasota Tim. Crush it! 8 Reply @FDeny 0 seconds ago Get lost Bozo, You're a joke, no one can take anything you say with confidence because everything you have ever had is "The best......., I've ever had". Go admire yourself in front of your refrigerator, pervert.

[@StankyMcGassy-eg3oi]

Tim, you’re a fraud.

[@tacobender100]

Tim, do you own a house? lol, you live in something designed to spend a weekend in.

[@Ubl7501]

So you are returning to FL? How about that!

[@Ubl7501]

@LOLiveOyl Exactly!

[@SarasotaTim]

I’ve already convinced 1000’s that this is the best camper on the market. How? Because I bought it and I make videos about it all the time I’m famous KZbinr Sarasota Tim. Crush it! 😎

[@Truth-and-Common-Sense]

Hey ST - maybe Myles will show you his KZbin plaque if you ask nicely. He has 166,000 subs.

[@StankyMcGassy-eg3oi]

You’ve already convinced thousands …that you’ve never worked a day in your life, Tim. Anything you’ve ever experienced is because it’s being paid for by SOMEONE ELSE. You’re too cheap and lazy and aren’t worth the pity.

[@BB-gd5pk]

Sarasota Tim is a lifelong scam artist and lying cheat. You are going down for fraudulently obtaining that $58,000 EIDL covid loan.

[@darlingape]

@SarasotaTim I trust this man a lot more than I’d trust you. He has more than 2x your subs and I’m sure a lot more views and comments than you. You are just a grifter looking for handouts and free meals from seniors. You don't know anything about RV's either. You almost rolled yours off a mountain the other day.

[@tacobender100]

omg, have you seen @sarasotatim - what a loser this guy is, sold oil change coupons for a living lol.

[@CD-lx6sc]

Lol please dont talk about vehicle engineering. Youre an RV salesman, stick to that.

[@mylesrv]

Why can I not talk about it? I go to the factories, talk to the people that build these, watch how they are built, and more. What did I say that was incorrect?

[@CD-lx6sc]

@mylesrv I've been a toyota mechanic all my life, recently switched to rv Technician and rvs are built so crap that I'm actually going to leave the industry in defiance of how garbage the engineering is. The worst vehicles on the planet are built infinitly better than the best large scale production RV's in my opinion. They're all the same, welds that break after 2 road trips, tongues that bend or warp ater a summer of use. Showers that leak, skylights that leak, awnings that don't close or open evenly, exposed wiring underneath, wire splices that are just scotch locked. Tankless on demand water heater that never lasts and produces barely one shower worth of hot water before turning ice cold as it struggles to keep up. Then there's snapping leaf springs, failed auto leveling Jack's, wiring inside walls that gets pinched during assembly because it's not routed correctly. I've seen these issues with enough frequency for it to be quite concerning! I'm not saying they are all bad, I'm sure there's alot of units out there that are better than others but my point is don't compare it to the automotive world. The laws surrounding automotive design, engineering, assembly and repair are insanely stringent and high quality is a minimum expectation not a perk for sales pitches (although it is sometimes used that way). I don't usually comment on issues like this but my ears perked up when you started comparing RV'S to Toyotas. They're aren't even in the same universe. I have a 2004 corolla with 230000 miles on it roughly, I'm the 3rd owner, the most significant thing that's needed to be repaired on it was a timing cover reseal, front wheel bearings and front struts. All of which were simple wear over time issues. In the RV world, I challenge you to find a 2004 RV that's been pulled 230000 miles and has needed minimal repairs beyond regular maintenance. And the build quality for RV'S in 2024 vs 2004 is far worse according to many current and older RV owners (this area I admittedly don't have much knowledge, but apparently build quality went down dramatically around covid times. You're really knowledgeable with RV'S in terms of sales and you've taught me alot about good purchase points but mechanically and electrically I am extremely experienced. What I have seen honestly disappoints me.

[@Marti60628]

Nobody will take you serious if you keep wearing those sunglasses in your intro.

[@mrechotv]

The drunk KZbinr Sarasota Tim had one like this, I think it got repo'd....

[@SkipTurnertalks]

He’s still got it