The Real Reason Facebook Wants A Metaverse

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The Metaverse. It's a hot topic as of late, which is a shame. VR. Digital Worlds. Wow.
Almost every time I see it talked about it's misunderstood, or simply a word thrown out for investors. This VR living world could be cool, but it probably won't be, especially if ol Zuck is in charge.
So today's about Facebook. Why are they so eager for all this stuff. Let's discuss. Or, I'll discuss. I'm just talking to myself. That's what KZbin videos are.
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[@knowledgehusk]

I have another channel, hence why uploads are more sparse nowadays. kzbin.info/door/vg_4SPPEZ7y4pk_iB7z6sw As for this vid, I originally had a 20-30 minute vid planned discussing every aspect of a potential metaverse, but I'll wait on that till it's even remotely relevant.

[@salilbhatnagar]

Nice!

[@fuqupal]

Just start calling META make everything trump again and no one will touch it

[@bigbrownhouse6999]

I get recommendations for your other channels but seldom realize that it is you because there is little continuity between their names, thumbnails, and profile pictures. If they had more of a common theme I probably would be subscribed to them all. Just a bit of constructive criticism from my perspective, for what it’s worth.

[@sammexp]

You forgot to say that people were against Novels as well when it came out. Because people didn’t have small talks while waiting for the Tramway, like before

[@christiangibson1867]

I like your new channel. I subbed when you announced it. I really enjoy your latest content, it seems like you really found your niche. Hope you keep doing what you're doing and making videos you enjoy!

[@TheElvenKeys]

"we're building THE Metaverse" translation: we want to move the world to a platform we own, so we can essentially own the world

[@Eli-dk3fr]

exactly

[@jessicacox2005]

Understated perfection my friend

[@alicia2931]

Yup

[@introverteddawg9805]

I'm afraid the average person won't understand that before its too late.

[@andreamoscoso4065]

Yeah and boy will they try.

[@Gh0sb0ss]

I can not imagine people unironically using meta or VR for business meetings imagine being fired by your boss's fursona

[@mongster5780]

You're in for a rude awakening when you learn about augmented reality. And no, it isn't a bad thing.

[@diablo.the.cheater]

Imagine 'firing' your boss in your fursona by saying u are going to other place that pays you more AND let's you use your fursona in internal meetings.

[@blazefoster5845]

@@mongster5780 well I’m not sure about business meetings but I know on VR Chat, there was a jobs fair for programmers, designers for some companies. They created a world that was essentially a luxurious office space and held interviews. It was pretty interesting to see

[@ediodimacaroni]

I'm sorry i have to lay you off uwu

[@Robert399]

I completely agree. Having stupid Mii-like avatars around a desk is inferior to a Zoom call (or Skype or anything else). The avatars are a downgrade compared to live video, plus most people want a camera frame they can manipulate - they don't want their body motions being recorded constantly. "Immersion" is not a bonus.

[@wheres_bears1378]

Living in the metaverse is like having a relationship with a blow up doll

[@EhXKoRR]

I have a feeling this is going to make the gap between the upper and lower classes even more apparent, especially if/when the world and the way it operated gradually shifts solely onto VR.

[@teemumiettinen7250]

interesting, why do you think so? To become upper class you have to go to college and university which costs shitload of money, not everyone can do that. But in metaverse you can be anything, nobody gives a shit about your uni degree there.

[@xanxinha]

Now imagine you dont have the money to buy a $3000,00 setup to attend certain events, classes, hobbies, etc.

[@heresjohnny23.7]

Lower “classes” will soon be just one class essentially.

[@shariqhasan6220]

@@teemumiettinen7250 But you still would need to purchase the required hardware which is probably going to be pretty expensive unless they provide it for free.

[@AmberCommentsThings]

The digital render of Zuckerberg still looks more realistic than the real one

[@asahearts1]

When he put the real pic up I thought it was fake for a minute.

[@VulpesHilarianus]

Dude has a deepfake aspect to his actual face. Even his movements don't dispel the uncanny valley effect.

[@635574]

I am freaked out when something that looks like the robot puppet of sugar mountain has a default smile

[@vylbird8014]

Why does the final paragraph of Animal Farm come to mind?

[@SA-mo3hq]

My only question is who is deeper in the uncanny valley - Zucks or Elon?

[@InfamousKicker]

Monetize human actions. That’s the ultimate goal. They want to monetize and control every aspect of human life they can

[@Butter_Warrior99]

How else are we gonna get into the dystopia?

[@jamesbaxter5147]

Need to work? Pay to use our VR system. Want to have some good fun? Pay to use our VR system. Do you want to meet some new people? Pay to use our VR system. Do you want to start over, to have another chance at life, to escape your mundane failure of a life where you get paid shit and have no meaningful connections? ... Pay to use our VR system. The goal is to exploit our insecurities, our inability to live in *their* world (one where you need to know complex technical skills, such as how to code, to make a decent living), to get us to focus on another one. Pretty dystopic, that we might get so preoccupied with VR that we just let these Douchebags take full control of society, not caring as long as we can fulfill fantasies in “The Metaverse”.

[@iainmcdonald9032]

The ultimate irony is that the rich will become a part of the system because when every aspect of life is controlled, every human monitored and a true dystopia arises, everyone is a slave, the people who control the corporations and governments are building a species wide bird cage and they think it doesn't imprison them, but it does and it always does.

[@ob3ythee.t.128]

@@jamesbaxter5147 I fear alot more people are gonna jump in and prefer spending most of their time with services like the metaverse. I mean VRchat is bad enough for internet addiction now imagine having an excuse because you have a business meeting in some poorly rendered office room lmao.

[@mastershadowreaper]

I mean his name is Zucker"berg" lmao of course it's all about money. he doesn't care about us. we're slaves to him

[@casicyber9842]

rule 1 to spot a scam: don't invest into a video that doesn't show an actual product that can be demo. animating your idea in a 3D art program is a shocking sign to say NO to the idea.

[@gradynelson27]

I didn’t think VR would turn into anything like this. I think it’s only fun when you play games with your friends.

[@one_smol_duck]

This seems like the kind of pet project that could totally bankrupt a company. I'm really hoping that's what happens.

[@smittyvanjagermanjenson182]

The quest 2 is the 3rd most wished for gaming product on Amazon. Bankruptcy isn't happening.

[@stoyantodorov2133]

@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 Understandable. It is incredibly good for its price. They can afford to undercut the competition.

[@panekmemes]

It's their last gambit. They know that when the boomers die facebook will too, and the company is down the drain. If the metaverse fails, we win

[@iamnotcreativeenoughforana5875]

But then we would lose oculus.

[@carlosnava1471]

@@iamnotcreativeenoughforana5875 A small price to pay for salvation

[@Gandhi_Physique]

"Hey bro, you wanna hang out this weekend?" "Sorry man, gotta do my prison tasks in the meta-verse or I'll be banned"

[@ThepurposeofTime]

Vs Today "Hey bro! You wanna hang out this weekend?" "Yeah bro! Let's do it" (Both spend 80% of the weekend on their phones)

[@Coal_the_rock]

@@ThepurposeofTime but they playing minecraft together :)

[@coachreenasharma]

@@Coal_the_rock exactly, they're on screens

[@internallyinteral]

Hey bro u wanna hang out? No I'm too busy playing genshin impact/any number of RPGs. Of course no one will ever say it directly but it's heavily implied.

[@mimszanadunstedt441]

Prison tasks: '[redacted because explicit] and accept a bribe on Jeffrey Epstein's cell'

[@WrestlingColin]

"The rhetoric around the smart phone was that people were too addicted to technology." Well, that one was accurate at least.

[@MrTubeyboy]

All I can say is that I'm truly happy that the majority of the comments are against this soulless idea. people power!

[@randomgrinn]

That is good, but it doesn't mean Metaverse will fail. People have no power. Money is power, the Billionaires have the power.

[@fatiheryilmaz2243]

Why are you against?? This is such an amazing technology and I will buy one 100%

[@MrTubeyboy]

@@randomgrinn I beg the differ, the people definitely have power,its just the matter of who will use their power. Look at the trucker convoy in Canada they're making a lot of noise with many supporters. That is power. Once people realize how the metavesrse will mentally destroy humanity it will be then where the people show these billionaires who really call the shots. Without people these billionaires have nothing.

[@MrTubeyboy]

@@fatiheryilmaz2243 It is not the technology itself that i'm against,I'm against the harm that it can cause. The entire world spent time apart because politicians caged us in and spewed nothing but fear and propaganda and now the metaverse is something else to distract humanity with, keeping people further away from each other and reality. It is not healthy

[@fatiheryilmaz2243]

@@MrTubeyboy I understand what you are saying. With phones there is also some “harm”, for example people getting addicted to some apps or games. Does this mean that we would be better of without phones? Or without gaming consoles. The technology will just keep growing and the humanity will change because I believe it needs to change. We are just primates that can influence our environment. The upcoming of AI is another thing. These are just tools for the people to make their life more comfortable and exiting. Even if it means that there is some level of danger in it. I rather call that escapism and I would not say that the metaverse is the problem. A lot of people do escapism with drugs or whatever so the metaverse does not add a problem here. So with what you are saying, maybe metaverse will even get drug addicted people out of drugs cuz now they will just enjoy the metaverse and get a dopamine rush. Technology will change and there is no was to stop it, so I would say don’t overreact and if you don’t want to use it, cool don’t use it but I bet you will in the near future. Just enjoy the beauty of the time we are living.

[@khata1169]

We truly live in the lamest dystopia

[@gianttacogod]

At least there is a evil lizard

[@radiantsquare007jrdeluxe9]

All hail Emperor Zuck

[@oldmukashiii]

IM ROLLING😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@nok4799]

At this point, I want an Alien invasion to happen☠️

[@user-ib1dx4dh3n]

There wasn't even a climax reveal 0/10

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

This "Metaverse" shit is literally just VRChat, but somehow meant to be taken seriously. This is dead on arrival, and I honestly couldn't care less.

[@sharp7j]

@@VikingTeddy Its google glass all over again

[@Curry-tan-]

I doubt it's expected to financially succeed. This VR "metaverse" is here to take up space and discourage competition. Facebook controls their own ads for a massive amount of people and can easily frame themselves as the go-to VR market for people who aren't techies. They don't need good service or many users, just a constant reminder to people that "if you get the gear we're right here one click away". Even if it cost Facebook 100 billion dollars over ten years, by the time the technology follows they could have the de-facto market and can probably recoup the cost for decades after that.

[@futavadumnezo]

That's what matters: don't care. If we don't care it will just go away. Stop using Facebook and what's app.

[@alikengi17]

Just imagine vrchat on Blockchain. Oh wait same thing

[@jacksparrow-pm7di]

I agree Facebooks/Metas Metaverse just sounds just like Vrchat but with more ingame markets atleast to me it does

[@boiledelephant]

After a long time pushing the issue around, I decided that all of those nay-sayers about technology aren't just reflexively hating the new thing; they were making accurate assessments. TV *has* trashed our culture. Smartphones *are* addictive and time-wasting. Social media *is* toxic and isolating. Cars *did* ruin our landscapes. These were valid criticisms when the things were new and they're valid criticisms now.

[@jimreily7538]

Absolutely

[@adjjal]

This. This.

[@pampazapp4169]

They helped our society more than what it worsened it

[@lordnordsucc4082]

So cry I guess?

[@MichaelDavis-cy4ok]

@@pampazapp4169 It depends greatly on how you measure "help." Food, healthcare, transportation, education, and social mobility are all more readily available than ever before. This is certainly a great help in society. That said, greater connectivity has dramatically reduced leisure time because most people can be contacted 24 hours per day. We have more communication but many of our relationships are more transitory and less meaningful, to include family relationships. People date more but marry less and divorce more frequently (for both good and bad reasons and with good and bad results). We have more safety infrastructure but that often leads to more carelessness. In many ways, society is objectively far better off in the material sense than we were 50 years ago. But in many ways, we're far more addicted to consumerism and far less fulfilled than we used to be. That doesn't mean engineers and telecommunications are the enemy. It just means our environment is something we're still adapting to and we need more wisdom along with all our technical abilities.

[@totoro3007]

I really never thought that a vr dystopia would happen, yet here we are. I think I'm going to let go of the internet, slowly.

[@jameskingcodes]

Same. I no longer use it to connect with people or be my center of truth for the news. Life is more peaceful and I can do my own research... which has ended up more reliable than the reports we hear on the news so far.

[@deadasparagus]

No dystopian author of the past could have ever imagined a scenario so awful, so terrifying, yet so boring as the one we find ourselves in today.

[@redpillow7221]

I think Aldous Huxley came close. We're currently ruled by inane pleasures.

[@jamalisujang2712]

I just want cool mechs, bionics, bright neon lights, is that so hard?

[@Live-qf2lg]

This looks like those old quotes that would show up when you died in a call of duty game. That says something.

[@andret3739]

The apocalypse is not going to be a big sudden explosive change, instead its going to be slow and boring and you wont even realize its happening until it is done

[@pedrolmlkzk]

@@andret3739 you say that until a archduke gets shot somewhere and nukes fall from the sky

[@mintsaucemilitia]

I like how the VR Mark Zuckerberg has more life and personality than the real Mark Zuckerberg.

[@TheSleepyShadow]

And real eyebrows, too.

[@brentgreeff1115]

Facebook is where I sell my second hand crap - its a tacky garbage dump. - VR might be cool for the occasional game, but until its as realistic as the top games right now - which is years away, - its gonna just remain a novelty. - You need incredible GPU power to run something like this in a way thats actually appealing, and I hope Facebook bets heavy and sees their arse.

[@mintsaucemilitia]

@@TheSleepyShadow As somebody with invisible eyebrows, let me just say I'm excited for my metabrows. 🖤

[@mintsaucemilitia]

@@brentgreeff1115 I agree with you - but will the masses? Oculus had a huge Christmas in sales, and Facebook is basically selling at a loss to get these things cheap enough to be in every household. Time, I suppose, will tell. Hopefully this doesn't take off.

[@jonnyaesthetic]

lol

[@kman9884]

It’s basically a way for corporations to retain control over you during remote work, because the thought of you doing work unsupervised (enjoying yourself, doing shit at your own pace) is abhorrent to the sterile corporate world that wants you to be complicit in their machine. It is truly the next breakdown of human rights and furthering corporate control over the population.

[@bagheeralu]

Quoted by Jak in the VR Experience Podcast, he says "if the metaverse is to be fully realised, it has to be decentralised". Furthering that, he explains that as we progress into the metaphysical age, that there won't, or hopefully won't, be a singular company that controls the metaverse. So yeah, this is unfortunate

[@AndrewFullerton]

I was genuinely thinking "Oh, that's pretty decent CGI, it looks almost like a real person" then I realized it was actually the "real" Zucc

[@ortherner]

lmao same

[@BeTheLight242]

What? I thought that whole thing took place in the meta?! I thought zucc was in the meta when he was showing us the meta! I'm now convinced he's not a human

[@JeredtheShy]

Funniest thing I've seen in recent memory is actual Zuck standing next to a wax statue of himself and he's the one who looks fake.

[@ortherner]

@@JeredtheShy lmao

[@josetO8]

tbh his image is soo heavily edited that he could probably qualify as motion capture CGI. Cleaning out his skin to such a level is ridiculous.

[@Sizifus]

Regardless of what you think of Zuckerburger, you gotta admit, he's the perfect mascot for a soulless corporation. And that reminds me, at some point in your life, you have to sell your soul to get this big.

[@CaponeXX]

It's true, the reason I don't have a job, a girl or anything remotely happy in my life is because I refused to sell my soul, yeeep.

[@Sizifus]

@@CaponeXX Bruh, in what kind of hell hole do you live in?

[@CaponeXX]

@@Sizifus Israel 2022

[@sethiddings7293]

Power grows much faster than strength. Strength you gotta do the same thing every day for years and years and years of boring hard work to become remotely proficient. Power grows all on it's own, all you gotta do is let go of all the things that don't make sense to it's proliferation (love, a soul, a conscience). Corruption comes when you become more powerful than you are strong. The snowball is already rolling down hill and the only thing that's going to stop it is when it crashes into something. Then power will find a new host, always another host.

[@TheDailyGlobe922]

Agreed Mark would be perfect for such a soulless corporation since robots are soulless

[@tuures.5167]

Facebook: "Other studios like Blizzard - - were too big and too profitable for an acquisition" Microsoft: "Hold my 68 billion dollars."

[@Daysed.and.Konfuzed]

On that "head-mounted displays will become the successor of the smartphone" part I was totally expecting to see that dinner scene from _Back to the Future Part II_

[@neoasura]

"FrUiT, FrUiT pLeAsE"

[@richpryor9650]

Jokes on them when they realize that 80% of their user base are boomers who barely know how to update windows let alone figure out VR.

[@thetruth4829]

They own Instagram and WhatsApp

[@crypticcryptid4702]

@@thetruth4829 I just hope that the younger people are well versed in technology to know how badly this can turn out.

[@davidndounou]

@@crypticcryptid4702 how could they be ?

[@davidndounou]

@@crypticcryptid4702 either way, VR is several decades away from reaching mainstream affordability so the fact that they are announcing it now is definitely just shooting themselves in the leg

[@dixiefish0173]

@@crypticcryptid4702 oh I am, the world becoming very dystopian just read 1984 it’s here, am surprised boomer’s don’t see it.

[@e2rqey]

Just had the terrible realization that large scale corporate investment in the concept of the metaverse creates a massive financial incentive to make the real world as shitty a place as possible. As you said, the entire metaverse concept is one fundamentally rooted in escapism. You can make the metaverse great by investing lots of money in it and sacrificing your control over it to a certain degree in order to get third party buy-in and leverage the open source community OOORRRRR you could just make reality worse.

[@gabbo7101]

And since most big corporations are on the fast track to destroying the planet, if this decision ever has to be made, it'll be the latter option.

[@cloakdagger4711]

Just like Wall-E

[@gabbo7101]

@@cloakdagger4711 That isnt what happened in wall-e though? the world wasnt destroyed deliberatly, it just so happens that the main evacuation force is a giant multi-natiuonal corporation

[@ethanlynch8275]

Ouch. The worst part about this comment is A) that it makes sense and B) there isn’t a clear cut way to stop this trend (There is one but it will go unmentioned, I hope you understand why).

[@TheRenegade...]

@@gabbo7101 Considering the sheer amount of trash, I have a hard time believing it wasn't intentional.

[@theobserver9131]

I've already mostly lost my family and friends to their screens. It's really depressing. It's almost impossible to pull them away from their devices to come out and enjoy the physical world. I have to text people that are in my immediate proximity in order to get their attention. They don't respond to the people that are around them. This is going to make it absolutely hopeless.

[@Definitely_not_ai]

Welcome to our internet come and have a look around

[@builder1013]

Wow. My science fiction idea is like a metaverse as well. In the book I'm writing, it's called the Cyberverse and scientists figured out how to manipulate time travel to going off course and creating a new time stream that they could edit with its own laws of physics, so you could essentially live in a video game. Good luck to those who find this interesting comment.

[@darken2417]

Sounds like Tyler hasn't discovered VRchat yet, o boy that'll be funny.

[@ErikWarhammer]

Or Facebook either, lol!

[@darken2417]

@@ErikWarhammer True, not only did they make basic terrible looking avatars but the pretend features in it are behind even a crappy meme game.

[@e2rqey]

@@ErikWarhammer thank god

[@acanadianderg4035]

I've heard people actually get married there

[@darken2417]

@@acanadianderg4035 Well people got married in World of Warcraft so I wouldn't be surprised. Especially since you could probably get a far nicer setting for the ceremony than you could on an average income. Imagining someone setting up a map with a cathedral on the moon overlooking the Earth, easy to model.

[@YourPoopDealer]

One of the things that really worries me is that the average consumer won't realize that giving facebook unlimited power to basically control the internet (with google) is a really bad thing. Think about project NERA, and the attempts by several tech companies to work together to create a closed off "walled-garden" internet that they have complete control over. I'm glad that John Carmack said that he doesn't think that what we might achieve as a "metaverse" should be sought out purposefully, but instead be created naturally.

[@user-hk5fo1nm9h]

Five minutes on Reddit and you see they’re drones who want good cheap VR games and don’t give two fucks about anyone else.

[@flowgangsemaudamartoz7062]

@@user-hk5fo1nm9h As if you give two fucks about anyone else.

[@JEASOUA]

chinese censorship

[@the-letter_s]

@@flowgangsemaudamartoz7062 what a constructive and thoughtful comeback

[@robertwoods3871]

@@flowgangsemaudamartoz7062 Clearly you don't with that dogshit retort. Just be quiet if you don't anything constructive to say

[@CassandraDarling]

There's little I want more than to watch "the metaverse" fail in every sense of the word.

[@abstractpixie3146]

This is great! Thank you for sharing! 😄🙏

[@lewatoaofair2522]

I don’t know which is scarier, big corporations fulfilling the prophecies of sci-fi stories, or having zero sense of irony from said stories’ commentary.

[@redpillow7221]

I'm pretty sure Zuckertron has never seen Alien, RoboCop, or Idiocracy.

[@uhohhotdog]

The latter is much scarier

[@rjs4176]

Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it...

[@635574]

@@redpillow7221 i heard people who didnt see the old star wars exist, maybe he's one too

[@Netist_]

I mean, just look at how many corporations and governments are interpreting 1984 as a manual instead of a warning.

[@NASkeywest]

1995: “Don’t sit to close to the TV, it’s bad for you.” 2022: “Strap this TV to a face shield in front of your eyes for 12 hours a day.”

[@TheGamesMaster6]

Yeah it's actually better. Gives you a more immersive experience.

[@MrGiggity890]

*too

[@MrGiggity890]

🤡

[@NASkeywest]

@@kevincarbone6831 it’s not a joke though….

[@TheSilverwing999]

Thing is sitting close to the tv actually is bad for you. It fucked up my eyes. Because if your eyes only focus on a screen close to you for hours on end it exacerbates near sightedness. Unless you make absolute sure to look away at a far away point for 1 min every hour at least

[@jasonhatt4295]

1:32 A familiar scene: scrolling through options 1:37 Choosing the default one.

[@trucksanddirt1506]

Head-mounted display replacing the smartphone 🤣🤣🤣 I never laughed this much in my life.

[@andrejspecht8217]

You know... This corporate design, the attempt to look as non - threating, soft and friendly as possible, that falls straight into uncanny valley for me. I'm not against VR - but this is a big project that grows upon the remains of bulwark of digital tyranny in a soft, friendly- and nonthreating-looking shell. You know what facebook is. This is a improved clone of it.

[@pueraeternum]

non threatening and friendly, that's how they lure you in, and the next thing you know they unfurl their fangs but it's too late! they'll suck out all your dopamine and empty your wallet.

[@yama123numbercauseytdemand4]

Facebook adheres to the 48th rule of acquisition: ,,The bigger the smile the sharper the knife!"

[@jonathanallard2128]

Insert Ukulele in ads to make them sound harmless* Ever noticed since a few years, EVERY fuckin ad has ukulele as music because ukulele sounds like the happiest least threatening instrument? Because of corporations overusing this I now hate ukulele with all my heart. I thought you could understand.

[@andrejspecht8217]

@@jonathanallard2128 Yes, i do understand. Sometimes i think i'd watch an ad with death metal, infernal fires and most greasy CEO with horns on head saying things like "yes, we're evil arsehoes but we're honest about it and we want your money - but we have what you want" - i'd respect that.

[@jonathanallard2128]

@@andrejspecht8217 Yes!

[@nettogames4268]

Fun fact- There's a company called "Meta", and they own the name. Facebook offered money to buy it (not enough to even cover the costs of Meta changing their own name), and Meta said no. Facebook insisted, still not offering enough to make them break even. Meta still said no. Facebook decided to then just ignore their ownership of the name and use it anyway without buying it off them.

[@larsswig912]

bruh facebook is gonna get sued again lmfao

[@orbusg8451]

@@larsswig912 They don't care, facebook has facebook money. Even if they could win against facebooks army of high priced lawyers, they could never sue facebook for enough money for them to care.

[@vylbird8014]

There are many companies called meta, because it's one of the generic 'cool tech words.' Doesn't actually matter what it means, it just sounds smart. (It's a Greek-derived prefix. In modern use usually means 'surpassing with self-reference.' So a 'metaverse' would be a universe composed of universes... which is exactly why it will be familiar to all comic book fans.)

[@nettogames4268]

@@vylbird8014 It's a Chicago-based tech firm. They own the company name legally, meaning facebook would have to buy it off them. They're asking $20mil. Given the fact they need to go through rebranding, including all the loss of profits that occur during it (as they basically start from ground 0 with brand awareness which is a huge deal), that's a fair asking price. Facebook recognize that company has the legal right to the name. They proved this by contacting the company first to offer for it. The company said no, because the price was too low. Facebook, after recognizing they do not hold the legal right to the name, and after being told no, is ignoring this legal right now and using it anyway. Facebook knows what its doing. They've acknowledged that they need to purchase the name first, and have actively chosen not to.

[@arthas640]

That's perfectly legal, in order to prove trademark or copyright infringement they have to be in the same field and competing for the same customers in the same areas. That's why you can have a plumber and an electrician in the same area both called something like "Reliable Repairs" (same name, same area, different fields) or you can have 2 restaurants in different towns both called "Taco Tuesday" (same name, same field, different areas). With the other "Meta" company they actually have a different name, "Meta PC's" and they're not a social media company, they sell gaming computers. To make things even more confusing it can be really hard to trademark a generic name like "Meta" since even if you had the name BEFORE it became generic you can suffer from "trade mark genericifcation" which dilutes your trademark and makes it impossible to protect, that's why the people who started selling the first "escalators" have competing companies also selling things called "escalators" even though it started out as a brand name. There's also tons of difficulty in trademarking single words, especially existing words (made up words are easy), that's why McDonalds hasnt change their name to "Burger", Microsoft hasnt changed their name to "Computers", and Comcast changed their name to "Xfinity" and not just "Infinity".

[@m.a8735]

2:06 I can't believe we'll play the Sims in real life 😂 It looks very similar to it.

[@googlegoogle9712]

So now that someone like ZUCK wants to make his own "VR CHAT" game, everyone shits their pants? There is no need to panic. That's literally what the Metaverse is, VR CHAT.

[@karuma6635]

The funniest thing about facebook changing it's name to "Meta" is that it's quiet literally the Polish word for meth.

[@YuTuboTuTubas]

Good point

[@ethanscinematicuniverse3260]

It also sounds like the name to a 13 year Olds imaginary super villian they came up with

[@kenos911]

Funny enough, they’re breaking the law by using the name. “Meta” is already owned by another company

[@karuma6635]

@@kenos911 But it's fucking facebook, one of the biggest corporations in the world, they'll probably get away with it lmao.

[@nobody-nk8pd]

Beautiful

[@chrisfromsouthaus2735]

"If everybody looks artificial, then no one does" - Zukerbot

[@ServalShots]

LOLLOOLLLOL insecureberg

[@TheBasementDweller84]

a.k.a. Commander Data

[@nicholasbstone]

@@TheBasementDweller84 Yes! He looks a lot like Data, especially the eyes.

[@Cat-Nipples]

Zuker is sugar in german, so zukerbot is sugarbot Zukerdaddy

[@FC_Twente_8469]

He looks more like a clown in a parody show

[@Angelic_Dreamz]

As someone who daydreams to a dangerous point and is in my imaginary world all the time detached from the real world, this gets a no from me!!

[@kaitlyn__L]

Ah, maladaptive daydreaming. I spent all of my teens doing that

[@EmvyBeats]

1:32 he put the same clothes back on.. Good job.

[@AleksWorkshop]

we already have vrchat go away meta

[@ungabunga2]

#BoycottToxicFacebook

[@infinitepower6780]

@@ungabunga2 Facebook as a company doesn't exist anymore. It's META now

[@soulbfkinzkatcupkakes5aptw449]

VRChat and Secondlife is better.

[@ronipriestress]

EXACTLYYY

[@chuckbenger8918]

@@ungabunga2 lol someones been living under a rock

[@fridgegaming1544]

If this takes off, I want people with hacked clients to join important / private meetings and invite hundreds of people. Having annoying people join your world is bad enough in VRChat. A virtual world where nothing is ever truly absolutely secure is practically meant to be exploited.

[@Dubbington]

metaverse nuke script

[@liangarvas8139]

metaverse gun script

[@neutrin0329]

I can imagine that scene in the matrix where Neo walks through the metal detector with dozens of guns strapped to his body

[@m3mz614]

twomad raids an official government meeting

[@nick012000]

@@m3mz614 in 2b2t, the oldest anarchy server in the metaverse

[@Regi_Goes]

This was actually pretty useful, all the headlines made me think I misunderstood what exactly facebook was advertising

[@HoneyBadgerVideos]

i have always liked the idea of vr. What scares me is not the technology, it's the company trying to monopolize the technology

[@TurtleSauceGaming]

It's crazy that a company can be so hated yet so dominant because consumers continue to use it.

[@DiamondsRexpensive]

It is called hypocrisy, something humans are great at.

[@Jose04537]

Amazon? Walmart? EA? Disney?

[@latinaalma1947]

I dont I wont. Hate Zuck.

[@AsuraVGC]

Cause face book owns Major of ur communication app

[@BlueisNotaWarmColour]

@@Jose04537 I use Amazon because well... I don't hate Amazon enough to not use it. But all the others, I boycott, and it's honestly really easy. Anybody can stop relying on these corporations.

[@masterspongebat2387]

“The Metaverse is impossible and never gonna happen” Mark Zuckerburg knowing it already exists on his home planet “👀”

[@oldmanlogan9616]

Lmao

[@zameion90]

I love how he changes his cloths back to basicly the same thing

[@soulsmith4787]

8:50 some foreshadowing right there. When Phil talks about "metaverse" it seems so much more plausible than when Mark does it, and he had a damn presentation! I imagine a future wherein people use their Oculus to access Microsoft's platform.

[@toddlieberman5320]

Anyone else notice how CGI Zuckerberg is more convincing as human than actual Zuckerberg?

[@foaarmedforces4175]

Weirdly true...

[@c-rlt730]

👶🏻🤔

[@Tall_Order]

I was thinking that. It looked more human. It even didn't have that awkward smile he has.

[@olivebenninghoven9861]

Ive been thinking about it, its the eye brows. with eye brows he looks normal but with ought them he is missing a key facial feature that displays emotion and there fore looks like a robot.

[@Bee-zr5pb]

Everything looks more convincingly human than irl Zuckerberg. 6 cats in a trench coat would be more human than him.

[@joshs2734]

This is the most "Saturday morning cartoon, take over the world" plan I've ever seen in real life. The entire idea is just bonkers and a little bit terrifying. The idea of a company as large as LegNovel basically owning the entire internet and controlling everything is beyond dystopian. We basically already live in a cyberpunk nightmare. The last thing huge companies need is more control of the internet than they already have. The internet is one of the last (somewhat) free things left. That said, there's no way it's going to take off. It's too large of an idea, would require so much infrastructure and investment in multiple fields. Everyone would have to own a VR headset. I think it's going to die within a year. But just the fact that the human lizard wants to create this, instead of addressing the massive damage his site has done to the country, is scary as hell.

[@slyseal2091]

I wouldn't really worry about it, the internet is so conceptually untied from ownership, even if this were to take off in any capacity it wouldn't cut down on the free part of itself. And at that point it's just a matter of competitive software.

[@oldmukashiii]

*(Smartphone noises intensify)*

[@cosmosyn2514]

Considering that companies willing to sell products at a loss is far from unheard of, I wouldn’t be surprised if Fuckbook decided to sell Oculus Headsets at a loss to disperse VR to as much of the population as possible.

[@CyanSoups]

Thinking VR is going to die in a year is as stupid as thinking TV or the Internet would. VR is a completely new medium with it's own brand-new perks, it's extremely unlikely to just die off.

[@joshs2734]

@@CyanSoups I didn't say VR is going to die in a year. I said that I think the whole metaverse idea will probably be dead within a year. Of course, I could be 1000% wrong about that. Maybe it will thrive. But of course VR isn't going to be dead in a year. I don't know what the future holds for it, but I'm sure it will be around for a very long time.

[@tristanthornquist5246]

yknow, i dont enjoy a lot of videos of this kind of topic, but this, i genuinely enjoyed this made me laugh and i actually was able to get your poit without you controdicting it seconds later. wich most people do, this is amazing.

[@KhunShawn]

8:42 THAT sounds good af

[@Danaredlp]

"Even the best product can be ruined by upper management" Never have i heard anything so true.

[@zknarc]

Dilbert hit too close to home

[@shaider1982]

Rockstar did just that recently

[@dixiefish0173]

@@shaider1982 why gta5 sucks & red dead 2 gets updates of basically the same crap

[@supersolenoid]

it's not about being scared of new technology: it's about being scared of new technology solely owned and controlled by a money-hungry private corporation and its creepy CEO...

[@fd502]

Agreed.

[@purplewyvern4015]

agreeddd

[@irsagent147b4]

Agreed

[@AlexLangerak]

can i join the agreement bandwagon?

[@immanuel5524]

and that boys is why I am a socialist not a capitalist

[@a1r592]

It feels to me like big corporations have been hammering on VR to become a thing for so long now, that this is a final desperate attempt to make it work.

[@matyaskozelsky5332]

the outro song bops

[@johnpaulcross424]

The fact that you predicted The Metaverse, SAO, and NFT’S all in one last minute end of term college paper is impressive, even if embellished

[@Bisquick]

Not to be _that_ guy, but you know, so did Karl motherfucking Marx about a century and half ago, more importantly however is elaborating _why_ and what material forces from which it emerges that necessitate it. Specifically, if you think about it in terms of feedback loop process (see: dialectical materialism) you got your base material organization of property relations, and then out of which all the superstructure of law, social relations, all the shit that forms our social (and like consciously lived ontological reality) on top, guided by and limited to the bounds of that base. This kind of manufactured scarcity shit, _pure_ exchange value basically imposed by a natural monopoly (one achieved by a digital enclosure movement essentially, talk about "first as tragedy, then as farce") needless to say, hopefully anyway lol, is _entirely_ superstructure, all that is solid is indeed melting into "the metaverse" (tm) (r) (c)... _"The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionizing the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionizing of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind."_ - some guy _“Once adopted into the production process of capital, the means of labour passes through different metamorphoses, whose culmination is the… automatic system of machinery… set in motion by an automaton, a moving power that moves itself; this automaton consisting of numerous mechanical and intellectual organs, so that the workers themselves are cast merely as its conscious linkages.”_ - some guy, again, “The Fragment on Machines” in The Grundrisse

[@emeraldblack842]

@@Bisquick your that guy

[@matheussanthiago9685]

@@emeraldblack842 *you're

[@TheKeksadler]

@@matheussanthiago9685 your also that guy

[@serious_nigga]

@@TheKeksadler 😂😂😂 This was interesting 😂😂

[@ComicalRealm]

Dad and Mom: It's vacation time kids!!! Kids: HURRAY! Entire family on VR wandering around the house.

[@Frogman1212]

You think families will exist in 20 years?

[@itsgrey8135]

You think 20 years will exist in Family?

[@ErikWarhammer]

@@itsgrey8135 Wait, The fuck?

[@e2rqey]

@@ErikWarhammer exactly

[@zombieranger3410]

@@ErikWarhammer Its the future bud, get over it.

[@inhumanmusic1411]

It's amazing how life-like Zuck's avatar is!

[@ashwinatresh4278]

I remember using occulus an year ago and suffering severe strain after using it for just 30 min. VR is a great piece of tech but don't force it down people's throats (the whole YOLO /FOMO nonsense). It should, at best, be an option amongst several others. In fact after reading the entire meta concept I have decided to decouple from gadgets and keep it as minimal possible since we all know it can't be zero, realistically speaking. P.S. My Oculus broke and I ain't sad about it now.

[@triggerboi_1545]

calling a metaverse 'THE Metaverse' is like calling Facebook 'THE Social Media'

[@ArtemisBlock]

Agree! The metaverse will end up being so much more than just FB's version of it - not for their lack of trying, likely - but the potential is unlimited! We made a video if you're interested :)

[@triggerboi_1545]

@@ArtemisBlock will check it out :)

[@olivia6632]

Remember when facebook used to be called THE Facebook?

[@lionobama1397]

not really, the metaverse is like saying the universe

[@zodiark111]

oh you mean just like that stupid movie that everyone loved?

[@jamalisujang2712]

I don't get why they still use zucc for ads, his face is cursed from scandals.

[@BariumCobaltNitrog3n]

Mark: I want to be in an ad Press Dept: ok, or we could... Mark: You're fired.

[@vylbird8014]

Because even a scandalised face can be better than a faceless corporation. Have to at least put a relatable human facade up.

[@sunsetman22]

you could've stopped at "cursed" lmao. the dude ain't human

[@TheMADmk]

@@vylbird8014 "Mark Zuckerberg", "Human" and "Relatable" don't belong in the same sentence next to each other. People can relate better to the cookie monster from sesame street!

[@arthas640]

I honestly think he's trying to copy the mystique and image of Steve Jobs, especially with his all black long sleeve shirt/pants combo. It's also probably a sprinkling of egotism.

[@ayt7474]

“it doesn’t matter if they hate you if they all say your name”

[@3choblast3r4]

Snow crash is on my list of books to read, it's on my ereader and will be one of the books I will read this year. I had no idea that the word metaverse came from that book.

[@MrRyeguy0]

I'm convinced that we live in the lamest cyberpunk dystopia timeline possible. I mean come on where's the neon lights, the cool cyberpunk slang, replicants, terrifyingly cool evil tech companies. Instead we got lame paraplegic cyborgs, Lame evil tech companies, now this lame metaverse from Facebook.

[@RaveLordNito]

I know right. And the evil companies don't even have cool names.

[@tanszism]

@@RaveLordNito meta is pretty cool. microsoft is pretty cool. apple is disgustingly cool if we look at it as dystopian.

[@oneofthelastsurvivingdoges8832]

@@RaveLordNito Amazon is a cool name. But I think "Meta" is a bit lame.

[@99temporal]

Well, about the slangs... ever wandered through woke twitter? It looks like clockwork orange... you don't understand half of the crap they're talking... only, in place of milk with drugs, you get vegan crap and things like that

[@DaviRenania]

Even the remaining neonlights became LED, so boring

[@pissqueendanniella4688]

I remember there was a time when I was optimistic about the future of techology

[@vienlacrose]

was this before or after they started teaching their mindless gun turrets how to recognize a human silhouette?

[@manlyman1393]

@                                                 ø He was a hero

[@danielwordsworth1843]

I still am optimistic - but I learned that a lot of shit will come with it

[@mudmug1]

Don't lose hope : the future of technology is secured. Ours, not so much

[@sergiowinter5383]

When Bitcoin hit a new ATH price some hours ago.

[@TinyDeskEngineer]

I never thought that a cartoonish version of a person could make them look _more_ human.

[@JAOResnik]

Zuck's avatar looks less like a robot than him in real life

[@mode3763]

Imo VRchat could actually steal the damn show from Facebook if they got a bigger budget and put some thought and work into it.

[@Omakhara]

@Other Account Apple has entered the chat xD

[@TheRenofox]

This is why they want to create a Metaverse. So that no one can make a better version than theirs, and everyone will be forced to pay up the nose just to avoid artificial inconveniences.

[@zeening]

they literally are not smart enough to figure out how to put ANY kind of user data protection in place, OR use any kind of encryption... so no i can't see them making an ACTUAL metaverse, regardless of how much money they get. and not for nothing even facebook doesn't have enough money to make an ACTUAL metaverse, noone does BECAUSE IT'S NOT FUCKING TECHNOLOGICALLY POSSIBLE RIGHT NOW.

[@capone4267]

@Road Runner not even close

[@rockyfalldownstairs]

VRChat has already won. Budget doesn't matter. VRChat simply already has the users and the creative freedom that makes its platform more fun.

[@stlchucko]

To my understanding, there’s a small company called Meta that FB lawyers have been trying to get them to sell the naming rights and website super cheap. After they denied because of the lowball offer (the wouldn’t tell the company it was FB trying to buy), Mark went public to the media about the name, as if he’s trying to bury the original company’s right to the name.

[@mikaelh.2276]

To be fair, "meta" is a word that is used in common speech. It should not be possible/allowed to claim "rights" over a word found in the dictionary.

[@comboscripts]

@@mikaelh.2276 Apple.

[@enn1924]

@@mikaelh.2276 valve

[@randomaccount53793]

@@mikaelh.2276 Cadbury trademarked a particular shade of purple for over two decades until the decision was overturned recently. Companies can try and own pretty much anything they like.

[@itzzausty]

@@randomaccount53793 I think that was just so that like, other chocolate companies couldn't use it. A lot of colours like that are trademarked. I think there was a Half as Interesting video on it

[@notsudo6873]

I was waiting for that "Hey, you're finally awake"

[@kel-A-3414]

I get severe motion sickness from using a vr headset for like 30min. I cannot have a "life" in the metaverse 😂

[@mockdr]

Go outside, touch some grass, breathe some fresh air, talk to your friends or something, spend time with people who care about you, and pick up a hobby. There, that’s better than what the meta verse ever will be. I know it can suck, but in the end, it’s better for everyone. Laugh, have fun, and enjoy real life while you can.

[@thebankrupter6704]

real life? Friend how do you know we are not already living in a metaverse created by an advanced species who started developing it a million or two years ago and we are the living product. Think SIMS year 4000

[@EBTS-3]

While you can- because one day generations will be born with VR goggles and reality will be a conspiracy theory from those that saw something more while 'Unplugged'

[@mockdr]

@@EBTS-3 no

[@lqu]

i think the grass was poisoned my hand is swelled

[@stevess7777]

@@lqu do you live in the amazon jungle

[@OrigionalCigarette]

Mark: "Guys, businesses will use this for meetings" Yeah, like a business would spend $200 per person to give them a VR headset.

[@mode3763]

Huh? Most companies already give phones to their employees. So it's pretty feasible if VR becomes the new norm.

[@someguycalledcerberus9805]

Pretty sure that the idea was that everyone will have a headset of their own and you will join the meeting using that. Similar to how a video interview is required for some jobs and you are simply expected to use your own laptop camera. Or indeed how it is perfectly natural for a company to expect that you have internet at home - something that was unimaginable 15-20 years ago.

[@tourmelion9221]

@@mode3763 naahh Zoom already works VR would be a pain

[@toddberkely6791]

buy one or you will be fired. when was the last time someone who doesnt own a smartphone got a job?

[@tizianovalicenti8432]

@@tourmelion9221 already? don't you mean barely?

[@86lanzo]

informative my dude...well..getting back to learning how to code

[@cloudlove1]

Brilliant video. I'm halfway through, it's a lot of information to digest, so I'm taking a mini break! I can make 3d models, however I'm starting to realize something. Investors are buying up real estate for millions of dollars in the metaverse, for their fancy stores, at this moment. It's like they've left us in the cold already. So all of us 3d designers are expected to just hand over assets? And no one even has a chance to "own" land? This crazy new world is so hard to navigate.

[@TeaBroski]

Ironic how none of the hosts in Microsoft/Fb presentation were seeing wearing goggles. Zuckenbarg stands in a green screen environment for most of the time as suggesting this is the induced feeling but it also betrays his fear of being seen wearing a headset himself as it would make clear how uncomfortable those things really are

[@alicia2931]

Hmmm good thought

[@onelusciouslad7841]

I imagine those goggles shown would be more comfortable, if those work as VR goggles cause wow they're small, but who knows, technology is wild now

[@axiss5840]

You can't expect him to use the technology he peddles. He actively covers up his own webcam and microphone. He's not making the 'Metaverse' so he can use it. It's so he has control over what other people do.

[@Red_Four]

"Facebook is fucking evil." Yes, it absolutely is, but for some reason, we all keep using it.

[@Roxor128]

Speak for yourself. I've never had an account, and have no intention of ever getting one.

[@JustianoHolguin]

Well, the ones who use that social media are for people not the name or big tech.

[@firewolfandrewb]

I don't

[@sergiowinter5383]

Changed Facebook for Binance and r/cryptocurrency, much more profitable

[@davidferguson1225]

I got rid of mine

[@amishhacker]

"Various Hats for Various Cats" is my new band name

[@LordClydeofOMAR]

Zuck's metaverse avatar looks more like a real human being than he does.

[@EmilyCarrollCello]

I'm here after seeing Meta's trippy new ad in a movie theater: the one where a museum painting comes to life and a tiger quotes Rod Serling. Then four hip young art students enter the painting and dance with a bunch of dead-eyed stop-motion jungle animals. The end tag actually says "This will be fun." At first, I couldn't believe how much self-awareness they would have to lack to release such a creepy ad. But this video makes me wonder if Meta's offputting brand rollout is just an epic troll to make sure the metaverse never threatens their market share.

[@nicholasbstone]

Here is a youtube video breaking down and exposing the subliminal symbolism found in that very ad: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3bTg4uXerusqM0

[@EmilyCarrollCello]

@@nicholasbstone Sounds fascinating! Saving this link for the next time I hate myself.

[@hankscorpio42069]

I don't think Facebook really wants to let go of the metaverse. They're just doing themselves any favours with these advertisements. There's really no need for them to release ads like these. Just announce a new technology, keep it on the down-low and for the love of god make it open source so that people will trust you.

[@nom6758]

@@nicholasbstone never clicking a youtu . be link, try again sucker.

[@nusrarahman7181]

@@nom6758 what was it

[@EBRyan-ri4tt]

taking "person on linkedin thinks black mirror episode premise is a good idea for their company" to its natural conclusion

[@kristinaF54]

I reckon old Zucker was watching Ready Player One on tv and thought that's a great idea to make it into a business.

[@DaKussh]

What they expect us to think it will be: A Jedi council meeting with holograms What we will get: A Wii Sports avatar Lan party

[@AkweliParker]

Most of you probably aren’t old enough to remember, but this exact same drama played out in the late 90s/early 2000s, over which dial-up service would rule the Internet. Everyone was terrified that AOL (America Online) would hold people hostage within its “walled garden” of content. People back then voted with their feet, as I suspect they also will with the Zuckerverse.

[@snagnoir6489]

People are too dumb nowadays..

[@WilliamParkerer]

No that's not the same

[@laos85]

@@snagnoir6489 These days. You can find many 3 year old kids playing vr even thought their head is too small and required adult login, their good for nothing parents somehow help and let them spend so many hours on it. I'm not complainning about new techs since they bring good stuff but the main problem is the ignorantly dumb people these days just can't be any thoughtful of things. We will see even more dumb people in the future unfortunately

[@nateclipps]

@@laos85 your over exaggerating it… VR sets cost in the 500-thousands.. your adverage American can not afford that…. 3 year olds are not crawling around with rv sets..

[@laos85]

@@nateclipps Their rich parents can still buy them anywhere. No matter how high the price is, kid will get their hands on one. You're point is super vague and it doesn't explain why kid can't buy them. Quest 2 is pretty much a real vr headset.

[@qliphalpuzzle5453]

The Real Reason Zuck wants humanity.

[@luddity]

You'll never lose money on a product that appeals to people's lizard brains.

[@EricGraham94]

God the future of humanity is gonna ZUCK

[@Timmering]

That outer music got me vibing

[@lukemimnagh2594]

Funny thing is that Zuckerburg’s Metaverse counterpart looks more human than he does

[@EnclaveOfficer1776]

I’d rather not live a lie, this world isn’t perfect but there is not replacement for real life.

[@alessandromauriziosalvator2281]

I swear to god, if living in a meta verse will be as popular as smartphones are now I will fucking 9/11 Facebook headquarters

[@petroniusarbiter2632]

@@alessandromauriziosalvator2281 Uncle Ted smiles upon you

[@martymikes6822]

LOL. Only thing funny about that is you think your not living a lie right now.

[@alessandromauriziosalvator2281]

@@martymikes6822 idk bro but at least this is a very well constructed lie, I’d rather not live with a vr on my face. I like going outside and touching grass

[@martymikes6822]

@@alessandromauriziosalvator2281 trust me you may want to just remain blissfully ignorant. When I unraveled all the lies it literally put me in my room for almost a month trying to make sense of it all and wondering if anything I did even mattered. Took a while to come out of it, and I don't think some people ever come out of it if they ever figure it all out.

[@NoFuqinIdea]

"They don't care if it's good or the best, they just don't want anybody else getting in." Ah yes, yet another demand to be satisfied by the magic of the free market.

[@renaissanceman4054]

Everybody called Zuck a robot so he's gonna make the whole world communicate through robots as revenge. Pretty metal

[@ruriha]

Metaverse is like an advanced VR Chat, except creepier

[@Grgrqr]

Honestly if Zark Muckerberg wasn’t there then this thing would seem a lot more dystopian and a lot less funny

[@GrantLenaarts]

best METAverse comment ever.

[@francom3476]

I think the fact that muckerberg is there makes this a lo more dystopian xd

[@Bisquick]

I would say if one wasn't circumstantially and arbitrarily born in the imperial core, it wouldn't be a question that this was the case. Behind the curtain of US empire, people actually affected by what it takes to prop up these insane financial delusions at its peripheries are often born to lives of constantly compounding immiseration and little else, an effect that's merely catching up to us at home as the empire feeds off the republic and as we continue to hollow out and sell all social meaning and trust for profit at quite literally all other costs (my god, climate change alone), akin to the optimates of the late Roman empire but with guns and nukes (and robot gun dogs, "cool"). Take like almost anywhere in the global south for instance, especially during Operation Condor. I mean my god, throw a dart at a fucking world map and _wherever_ it lands will inevitably have been affected by this imperial belligerency (not even to mention the Bretton-Woods financial coercion through dollar hegemony and the IMF/World Bank "washington consensus" -debt peonage/resource extraction scheme- "economic development loan" policies), take the entire operational history of the CIA, NATO and color revolutions, Operation Gladio, Operation Cyclone, Operation Condor, Iran installing the Shah in '53, Guatemala in '54, Sukarno in Indonesia, Lumumba in the Congo, the first 9/11 in 1973 in Chile ousting democratically elected Allende to install Pinochet's military dictatorship (using a literal nazi we protected in the ratlines to south america Paul Schafer, also a huge pedophile because of course he was), Operation Mongoose/Northwoods and the absurd/criminal embargo of Cuba, honestly this is the tip of the imperial iceberg, far too many insanely grotesque operations to list, some even domestic to the US (the Schmitean "exception") and quite related like Operation Mockingbird, to which I'll quote William Casey CIA director under Reagan aka absolute demon regarding its efficacy, _"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false."_ In the most important ways, the nazis didn't really lose WWII, there's a _literal_ continuity there with absorbing the _literal_ nazi leadership in those ratlines to south america mentioned, also into Operation Paperclip obviously. We're all along for the ride to the bottom at this point, the "common ruin of the contending classes." As usual, the _actual_ choice for humanity, should we choose to you know _actually_ reconcile with reality, is just as Rosa Luxemburg put it in 1918 Germany before of course being executed by the freikorps paramilitary (later becoming the SS, shocker) at the behest of Ebert's SPD _social democratic_ party (and we know the rest): socialism or (continued) barbarism. _"The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionizing the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionizing of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind."_ - some guy, a bit optimistic at the end we wouldn't just choose delusion while everything burns Although he actually did note the potential for technology to mediate our lives to the point of atomized insulated cogs, so I guess the resonating capitulations/failures of the 1848 revolutions had some pessimistic sway: _“Once adopted into the production process of capital, the means of labour passes through different metamorphoses, whose culmination is the… automatic system of machinery… set in motion by an automaton, a moving power that moves itself; this automaton consisting of numerous mechanical and intellectual organs, so that the workers themselves are cast merely as its conscious linkages.”_ - some guy, again, “The Fragment on Machines” in The Grundrisse

[@fxgamer4870]

@@Bisquick i don't this is the site for writing novels.

[@matheussanthiago9685]

@@francom3476 same

[@beautifulislam67]

Isolate people with technology, then charge them for connecting to each other.

[@isabel2793]

isolate people with biological engineering (v1rus creation) then sell them technology for connect to each other.

[@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479]

@@isabel2793 the fuck

[@CynicalBastard]

@@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479 What? Are you so gullible?

[@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479]

@@CynicalBastard ratio

[@Sukhoi_Su-25]

@@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479 is not in your favor anymore it would seem muzzle cuck.

[@Hollowdude15]

Great video KnowledgeHusk :]