"You're Not The Man I Thought You Were" | Hollyoaks

[@run2cat4run]

My heart sank when John Paul believed he’s the problem when it’s the other way round.

[@nazminar4327]

He’s gaslighting him making him think he’s imagining the abuse and that others have it worse by blaming it all on him making John Paul doubt himself

[@CoachingbyCade]

Fr

[@Tvjunkieful12]

The fact George is trying to distance himself from what he did the night before by wanting to show JP a good time, suggests he is ashamed of, and cant face up to, what he has done. Likely because George himself has been a victim of abuse, he can't handle being thought of as an abuser - so he accuses JP instead. That part of this I can follow. But the sadistic manipulations suggests George to be a psychopath, so the writing of this I feel could have been more consistent.

[@nazminar4327]

@@Tvjunkieful12 can u explain when George was abused bc I’m unaware of this

[@Tvjunkieful12]

@@nazminar4327 His behavior in the first scenes here suggest he was, because he tries to make it up to JP by showing him a good time (apologetic behavior), and because when JP wants to talk about what happened, George tries to avoid the topic (suggesting he feels ashamed of what he did), but since he doesn't apologize, but instead make accusations against JP, that suggests the topic is too painful for him to talk about. And when George himself confronts JP if he sees him as an abuser, that strongly suggests - since that upsets George so much, and was a conclusion he jumped to immediately, that he himself has been a victim of abuse, and therefore to think of himself to be one is something he cant face. All and all it seems like George felt unfairly humiliated (and rightly so) when being reprimanded after Nancy complained about him, but because he had to hold his tongue (and fists) at work, let it all out on JP when he got home from work. People who are scared of standing up for themselves, even when they rightly can do so, but instead take it out on people not as strong or powerful as them, is quite typical for bullying and abuse victims who themselves becomes bullies or abusers. Having said that, later in the scenes there were also elements suggesting George to be a sadistic psychopat who felt himself powerful and smart by manipulating and confusing JP about what was what. But those lines and scenes (planting his police id next to the body bag, as an example)seemed more soap foam than they felt authentic (not only would not a dead body be left outside the scene of the crime, it would have been at the scene until it was transported away, but leaving the police id next to the body, had one of his superiors seen what he did, would have left him in serious trouble - might even would have delayed an eventual promotion.). But the first part of these scenes, is a very authentic depiction of an abuse victim turned abuser trying to first distance himself from what happened, and gradually trying to rewrite history to avoid being confronted with his own guilt and shame, but instead is trying to make himself the victim in JP's eyes. But that type of personality and background does not fit with the sadistic manipulations that followed AFTER JP had begged George to get back together with him. An abuse victim would only have applied such techniques to escape being confronted with painful issues. After JP had stopped trying to address the punch, George would have returned to plan A - distancing himself from the night before (and the scary thought he himself could be an abuser) by being on his best behavior, and showing JP a good time. He would not have continued manipulating and attacking JP after JP had stopped trying to get him to talk about the night before.

[@vanessaalbert9738]

@@Tvjunkieful12tbh I don't see why he has to be abused too just because he's apologies and didn't want to look like he was abusive and asked if JP was scared of him. I'm sorry but that's what manipulative people do too. Sure people who got abused might be at risk to just end up the same but it's not always the case. So idk if they'll go that road with George.

[@rwhite1069]

What a manipulator! "You're not the man I thought you are!!" More like, John Paul isn't as blinded as he thought. Run JP!

[@rebeccaflutters5179]

John Paul is such a sweetheart. This storyline broke my heart. He's been through so much.

[@jwsm2]

I hate George already using John Paul's past relationships to put him down acting like the smack in the face was his fault.

[@Mitsubachi2529]

To straight women and gay men; The first time a man puts his hands on you should be the *last* time .

[@kirstymcgurk]

Or a woman on their partner

[@reginaldphalange9036]

Kirsty Mcgurk People seems to forget that women aren’t push overs and more than capable of abusing others.

[@Mitsubachi2529]

@@reginaldphalange9036 I know that. I was just referring to this specific type of situation.

[@Tvjunkieful12]

People who hits others (20% of domestic abuse victims are men being abused by women) either are psychopaths with a need for control or to demonstrate power, or have some form a trauma related to violence or abuse (have been abuse victims themselves, or have had one as rolemodel). In the case of the psychopaths I agree, run a mile. But the other groups can change having benefited from therapy. Provided you succeed in getting them to seek help.

[@xalexis.editsx]

No, this should say, “To anyone out there who may be in a similar situation, the first time your partner puts a hand on you should be the last time.” This is not about gender so don’t make it about gender.

[@danielattwell9820]

I have been in one of these relationships before. It is not good no matter how attractive he is. John Paul needed to leave right then. Now things are going to get worse not better.

[@Tvjunkieful12]

Sorry to hear about your bad experience. And this being a soap, I suppose you are right this is only the beginning. But depending on whether George is supposed to be a psychopath, or just an abuse victim turned abuser, it might not be the end for him and JP. If the latter, therapy could help him sort out his issues, so he would be able to control himself, and not lash out, should something go against him.

[@kimberleyrazey5171]

Typical abuser hits you and then gaslights you by making it out that it's your fault! Run, John Paul, run!

[@CoachingbyCade]

Fr

[@Tvjunkieful12]

There is a difference if George is so embarrassed over what he has done, that he cant face up to accusations or discussions of being an abuser, cause he has traumatic experiences from being abused himself, than if he is a psychopath who just manipulates and abuses JP cause it makes him feel powerful and in control. The former can easily be helped through therapy - the latter is a serious personality disorder.

[@CherryBlossomBlyue]

I thought it was they usually apologize and say they won't do it again

[@emmacroker5603]

@@Tvjunkieful12 I'm guessing u like George

[@Tvjunkieful12]

@@emmacroker5603 Not as he is now. I used to like George, as the character he was when he first appeared, yes. At that time I thought: finally a police character who is not crooked. That is a while back now. And I also think the way the show has angled the abuse and manipulation SL is a little too over the top to be believable. I don`t know if you are familiar with the UK police drama The Bay, and the character of Andy in the second series. He, because he lies to both his children and his former partner, Lisa, manipulates them. But the reason he does so is fear of being rejected if he is himself. Even when his lies have been exposed, and Lisa asks him to tell their children about the girlfriend and child, their half-brother, he has in another city, he is so cowardly that instead of coming back with her, he abandons them all yet again. Not because he wants to inflict pain on them, but because he doesn`t dare to face them, and tell them the truth. That type of reaction and motivation is very believable, in certain types of people. And also quite easy to improve through therapy. The motivation and actions of George at the moment, far more rare (and also near impossible to improve with Therapy, since that type of individual tend to be more focused on manipulating therapists, than to be treated by them). That type of disorder is so rare it is more common in movie scripts, than in real life. In movies an individual isolating their spouse or partner in some far away location, to keep them under control, is more common. Most of the people, even those who manipulates to avoid in laws, family members or friends of their partner, who tend to isolate themselves and their partner, tend to do so not because they intend to manipulate, but because they feel insecure or fearful (rationally or irrationally) around the family and friends of their partner. The reasons can be many, from feelings of insecurity to negative experiences with their own family they fear could be repeated. But these type of conditions also are fairly straight forward to treat through therapy. But when series like Hollyoaks focuses their attention on the zebra cases, rather than the more common horse and donkey cases. There is a danger many viewers who have family members with traits similar to George, will identify those, and believe the person they know to be just the same type as George is being depicted to be, is just as manipulative and ruthless as George is. Even though in most cases the similarities with someone like George is minute. But because people believe them to be similar, people who have gone through therapy to win back the trust of their families, could come to be rejected, because their family believe them to be as bad as they have seen George be against JP on the show. Had George been a police officer with less severe issues, I would have liked the character better. I also had hopes the abuse SL was more complex, focusing more on why George manipulated and hit JP, than how he did it. And that because of this George would receive therapy and change his behavior, after having gone in depth of his problems, and also had been taught anger management techniques to stop him from attacking JP, or others. Sorry it took some time to get back to you.

[@abbiesharpe]

He’s so bad but he’s the most attractive bad guy we’ve had and it’s killing me

[@ashleyfaminial964]

You don't remember Laurie?

[@SpeedyJuiceBroBrian-wd9mb]

He was a complete pain

[@kayleighdolanofficialx268]

@@ashleyfaminial964 Laurie though😍

[@albinhuchet2287]

Ryan

[@emanuel6693]

No wonder serial killers have it easy with women

[@Blackvoid2me]

ME....apologize for letting a man hit ME!? Nope....couldn’t be me.

[@Tvjunkieful12]

JP is a kind man who wants to please others, so when he feels George is upset, he feels sorry for him and wants to make it better for him. So despite George is not willing to see things from JP's point of view, JP does his best to see it from George's.

[@dannysze8183]

Me neither

[@badvogue]

oh, I've been that kind of guy and it's not cool.

[@100percentweem]

I know someone exactly like George, it’s uncanny. He’s Scottish as well 😅

[@kif4354]

run

[@alexkane3606]

is he single?

[@cjpfoxtech09]

Aint no good looking scottish man worth all the bs lol

[@vicdwamena]

I feel so bad for John Paul he's clearly in love with George but George just wants someone to mess around with.

[@ndhunt]

John Paul, you in danger gurl.

[@handsomemahlambi]

The mental and emotional abuse after the physical Acting like the victim *screaming* I f*cken hate this George man #TeamJames

[@MariaSilva-jc9jq]

Looks like James has eyes for John Paul’s ex-husband

[@run2cat4run]

@@MariaSilva-jc9jq lol oh wait

[@gracebenjamin5548]

How dare George saying that John Paul is creating a problem and denied that he hit him.

[@Juuhjooh]

SMOKERRRRRRRRR

[@dragick5646]

here to check out smoker too haha, pretty excited even though release is still a year off or more

[@gemmaduggan2310]

The fact people are justifying that it was ok for someone to hit someone is shocking, ask your self if your friend called you up in tears an explained the situation like this episode would you be saying you asked for it go kiss an make up??? 9/10 would not be ok for a friend/sister/brother/anyone to be treated like that..... been there an its shocking how the abuser all ways makes you feel like it was your fault and you end up apologising, great storyline but a hard watch

[@MariaSilva-jc9jq]

I’m sorry you’ve been there but just remember that you are strong for getting out of it ❤️

[@Lucenaomi]

So sad that you even have to say “imagine it being your sister” if you have to be told that to realise you’ve got somthing seriously wrong with you

[@maecatalina3967]

True👏👏

[@dannysze8183]

typical narcissists and empaths relationship

[@CherryBlossomBlyue]

Well JP shoved him first, then George hit him. Not saying it was right. However the fact that he didnt apologize etc.... is sketchy and manipulative

[@misssophielouise]

I cant see John Paul entertaining it for long though he is fully aware of what is going on around him and has a good head on his shoulders "fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me" I don't think John Paul is that naive

[@amybooo917]

Its more to show that anyone can become a victim of domestic mental/violent abuse. It will show how pc kiss will strip every inch of john paul back until hes unrecognizable that how abuser work

[@Mitsubachi2529]

That's the point of this storyline; Abuse can happen to anyone.

[@misssophielouise]

@@amybooo917 i do get that but it will be interesting to see how he manages to isolate him from the mqueens

[@misssophielouise]

I think him been a copper is a big part of the story line too though that anyone can be an abuser hopefully John pauls the one to get him locked away with the people he's locked up

[@amybooo917]

Absolutely. All police in hollyoaks are nasty but yes it to show even those ment to help us can be abuser i just hope jp doesn't die or leave because of him and he get justice after everything hes been through. When i first seen where this storyline was going i said the "no way will jp let this happen" then i realised why its the storyline x

[@MadeofHope17]

Oh my, these mind tricks are spot on and gave me the chills. Wow. Great job 👏🏾

[@Tvjunkieful12]

The opening of the scene, George wanting to make up and move on, suggested he was ashamed, but at the same time fearful of what he had done the night before, and thinking he could distance himself from that by showing JP a good time now. But then JP wanted to talk about what had happened - which would have confronted George with what he had done it, something he both find so traumatic and scary he can't face it. So he blames JP instead. So far this SL works for a victim of physical abuse who himselves becomes abusive, but who is unable to face that painful fact, and therefore instead try to make himself the victim. But then he persists with manipulations who suggests him to be focused on being control and enjoying tormenting JP. That is a completely different breed of dog. Someone who is ashamed of their abuse, becomes abusive when they have lost control - like George after having been reprimanded after Nancy's complaint - and not being in a position to defend himself in front of his superiors, felt humiliated, and compensated that feeling of humiliation by taking it out on JP. That part of this I fellow, and was excellently played by Callum Kerr. But the writer has also included some sadistic manipulations, which suggests George to be a completely different type. Not someone who feels to have lost control, but someone who enjoyes demonstrating to himself he has control over the other person. The difference between the two is that the former is a traumatized abuse victim who lashes out against those weaker than him when being humiliated by someone stronger or more powerful. The latter is a narcississtic sociopath with sadistic tendencies taking pleasure in controlling and tormenting others, and who feels himself more powerful the more confused, saddened or hurt the other becomes. The former can easily be helped with therapy - the latter is a serious personality disorder. This cross between a sheep and a wolf I didn't find very authentic. But the first few scenes, before the sadistic manipulations polluted the authenticity, were brilliant. But merging the two personalities made the overall impression this to be a mess.

[@zachreeder1257]

At this point in time I think the best thing anyone can do is the exact opposite of what goldie says 🤦‍♂️😂

[@ninjettifire]

Apparently, Goldie doesn't know that John Paul was punched. She wouldn't have advised JP if she'd known. And neither would his gran.

[@billyhargrovedeservedsomuc183]

I feel like I’m the only one NOT about this storyline. I have seen JP suffer SO much, I just don’t really care anymore.

[@michaelkuykendall789]

Agreed. JP has been put through the ringer. I really thought George was gonna be different. I thought JP was finally gonna be happy.

[@Ray03595]

exactly why it's unrealistic for JP to put up with this. He's not a groveler.

[@dogepin1640]

He's so manipulating if anyone can't see it they need help

[@Tvjunkieful12]

Or the scenes could have been better written. You being a doctor probably know the sadistic manipulations suggests George to be a controling psychopath, while the first scenes - where he wanted to show JP a good time, and became defensive and opposing when JP wanted to talk about what happened the night before, suggests him to be apologetic and ashamed over what happened - but at the same time being labelled an abuser was so upsetting to him he started accusing JP to avoid the topic. Which again suggests him to have been a victim of abuse himself, an so traumatized by it he cant face such accusations about himself. But to merge a psychopath and an abuse victim into one, is a little confusing, and not that authentic. Psychpoaths tend to be abusers - not abuse victims.

[@xalexis.editsx]

@@Tvjunkieful12 He was an abuser before John Paul...we already know that from when his ex showed up. He’s not a victim, he’s an abuser.

[@Tvjunkieful12]

@@xalexis.editsx The issue isn`t whether he is an abuser or not - but WHY HE IS AN ABUSER. There is a huge difference between various types of domestic abusers. The worse of them, the psychopaths, are extremely dangerous, and very difficult to correct through therapy. But the ones who either have grown up with an abusive role model, or in an environment where abuse was common, can be helped through therapy. There is a difference between someone who hits or psychologically torment his/her partner because it makes them feel powerful and in control, and someone who lashes out in frustrated anger after having had to bite their tongue, or been too timid to stand up for themselves, being reprimanded at work, like George was before he provoked a confrontation with, and hit, JP. Had George been a psychopath, he wouldn`t have needed any reason to hit or torment JP, he would have done it, and manipulated some excuse, pretending to make up with JP, or something, afterwards. To a psychopath that would have been a double whammy. First he got to feel superior just by hitting or tormenting JP, then he proved his superiority again when conning JP into thinking he was sorry. But since George had been reprimanded at work because of Nancy`s unfair and vengeful complaint (which it is beyond me why was taken seriously, taking into account George managed to both find drugs at the school and arrest someone (Juliet), he was even the one who arrested Jordan after Sid`s tip - so what he could be blamed for is beyond me. Nancy had a drug dealing son she wasn`t aware of. Not to mention both her husband and ex-husband have been jailed for drug dealing, so in real life both she and Darren likely would have been considered as potential suspects after Charlie`s arrest.). But all that aside, because George had a reason to feel upset, which he wrongly took out on JP, who he claims to love, that strongly suggest he had built up anger he needed to get out, and since he took it out on someone he loved, that suggest he lost control when doing so. Which again suggests the reason he didn`t want to talk about what had happened was that he was ashamed, and this again - the fact he not only hit someone he loved, feels ashamed about it, but yet cannot bring himself to apologize, but instead try to show JP that he cares about him and wants to make it up to him by showing him a good time, reveals seeing himself as an abuser is something that is too painful for George to face. Remember it was him, not JP, who first mentioned domestic abuse. Together this indicates, since domestic abuse both so quickly springs to George`s mind, and since it is too painful for him to accept to even bring himself to apologize to JP for what he did, that domestic abuse is something not foreign to George. But since he also appear ashamed of it, it is more likely he himself has been subjected to it, and therefore find the thought of himself exposing JP that he loves to the same, unbearable. Which again means he couldn`t have willingly done what he did, but that he lost control. The reason he lost control was that he was angry - and why was he angry? Because he had been unfairly reprimanded at work. Since he feels himself, and was, unfairly reprimanded, he clearly didn`t speak up about that fact at the time. Which suggest him to have a problem when facing authorities. Which again could be because he was abused by something like a father figure, teacher, priest, coach or similar when he was younger. In real life the fact George, had he been a real person - Callum Kerr probably have done the same because of sport or to get roles - has built up so much muscles, would have been an indication he needed to to defend himself against someone. And since George himself mentioned domestic abuse, and used physical power, physical abuse most likely is what he was subjected to when younger and weaker. And from someone, because he mentioned domestic abuse, within his own household as a child/teen. Like a father/stepfather or brother/brothers. The thing he said about "that is what boys do," also could have been something he had been told by one or more abusive brother/brothers as an excuse after he had been hit, probably said in defense to a parent figure. It is even possible, because of George`s good looks that the physical beating have been camouflage for sexual contact by a brother or father/stepfather who found George too irresistible to resist. But because of the added controversy of the incest element, didn`t express those urges directly, but camouflaged them as physical beating, or physical punishment, wrestling and such. George could even have been beaten to make him less attractive to the abuser, so the abuser would find it easier to resist him. Judging from what we saw in the first half of this, because of the reference to "that is what boys do," George has one or more brothers who have beaten him regularly when he was younger. And if there was only one, that one probably did so because he felt sexually attracted to George, and felt conflicted about his feelings for him.

[@xalexis.editsx]

@Tvjunkieful12 Look, I’m not reading all that. There’s too much to unpack there and I have a little bit of reading dyslexia so I’m gonna put this short. I respect that there is often a reason as to why abusers become abusers, and quite often it’s because they were abused themselves, but I don’t really care. I don’t have any sympathy whatsoever for abusers. That's just my opinion.

[@Tvjunkieful12]

@@xalexis.editsx If you should find yourself in a abusive situation, you are allowed to think and handle as you see fit. But when you not even are able to read a few paragraphs where I try to explain, do you really think you are in a position to sit in judgment of either abusers or victims of abuse - or people educated and trained to help them - what is what in this regard? I would have liked to explain further - but hope this is short enough for you.

[@KCCanadaCanada10]

JP don’t listen to nana or Goldie they don’t know anything go with ur gut instinct

[@cleverlysaid3824]

Correct and he did not come out and say to them “he punched me in my face”

[@CherryBlossomBlyue]

He didnt even apologize and say he wouldnt do again like a lot of abusers. He legit went straight to gaslighting.

[@saranissen6210]

Get away from him John Paul.

[@SpeedyJuiceBroBrian-wd9mb]

Yep asap

[@Tvjunkieful12]

Or get him to therapy.

[@emmacroker5603]

John Paul needs to get away from him

[@Jasmine-ss7vt]

I thought George was gonna be well good. And bow he’s a abuser? Typical abuse signs, blaming the victim, not acknowledging, physical and emotional torment and abuse

[@tcuttstark6686]

People are genuinely scared is that you? Me screaming yyeesss honey that’s you!!

[@ButterflyQueen]

i hope this doesnt drag on

[@vanessaalbert9738]

I knew not to like George when he appeared and acted shady... I can't even.

[@ramisaahmed8531]

Oh this is just lovely, John Paul gets punched in the face and winds up being the one saying sorry. Here comes a new domestic abuse storyline, dk how long JP will have to endure this before he gets out of it.

[@misscristinatheteacher5068]

OMG gggrrrr George! And he looked so sweet and innocent.

[@AMAM-786-k]

PC kiss is sooo scary, mysterious, dangerous, controlling, and a creep! Who agrees?

[@phillipbates9587]

I do!

[@haych181]

Not me because he has love for John Paul’s son

[@MsTinkerbelle87]

@@haych181 creepy!

[@Aeurhs]

@@haych181 LOL

[@saint_benedetto]

i feel bad for george😭😭😭

[@samirachedi5018]

“Goldie” more like happy and single

[@bcusaaus4749]

Oh John Paul!! Don’t go there!!

[@LightLife4]

I've not watched this is ages but from the clips I've seen George is both vile, manipulative and controlling. In many, many cases of domestic violence/abuse there is no excuse for it. It's made even more disgusting when they subconsciously try and make the victim believe that they're both the villain of the peace and the problem, just another form of psychological control.

[@kenroykentish4641]

"Your not the man I thought u were" coming from somebody who threaten James and hit John Paul in rage John Paul should be the one saying that to him

[@E-lijah]

At 7:38 John Paul is giving me this look of he got something up his sleeve

[@_itslexxx8368]

Can't wait till jp see the true colors and not blinded by george's so called loved. Damn.

[@nicolewebster908]

poor JP🥺

[@joshuahughes9435]

I like where this is going

[@cheyenneautumn6569]

Ugh I hate George! He’s so manipulative to John Paul

[@aistegus3104]

where?

[@emmaharding7572]

I hope George ends up in a body bag lol

[@kellyrichardson2868]

It's STE and Bendon all over again the mind games the beatings

[@kellyrichardson2868]

Or Maxine and Sienna's dad that's more recent

[@steleoger]

omg the true meaning of gaslighting

[@bbdiscus4741]

... you clearly want chaos because its what you ever had.... ya but poor jean --paul, he doesnt know but hes stuck in a tv soap . . am i the only one who wait all day for the episode to come out. i love Hollyoak. ))) its make my day

[@debgenealogy]

Why can’t they let John Paul be happy enough of these crazy partners. This is sad. How many abusive relationships can he be in. Let John Paul move forward and find a healthy relationship. This is distorted relationships. Stop perpetuating negative relationships.

[@ChelseyLinden]

debgenealogy Someone like James “McQueen ❤️”???? 😉😉😉😉

[@misssophielouise]

I agree there is something negative with every relationship I dont know one couple in hollyoaks that have lasted and been faithful throughout

[@shyathena34]

Actually he had two pretty good relationships: Spike and Kieran. They weren’t perfect by any means but he threw them over for Craig, (Yuck!)

[@ChelseyLinden]

@@misssophielouise Exactly! No marriage or relationship has ever gone well in the village Sophie!!!! 😔😔😔😔

[@ChelseyLinden]

@@shyathena34 Ste had some pretty good ones tambien one with Adam, then with Doug then with Harry. ☺️☺️☺️☺️

[@Starshii]

He's so good. I mean bad. Well...good in being bad. If done well this could be a brilliant storyline.

[@Nick-cf8hq]

They made this so well! Sadly, many others & I can relate all too well

[@iwantsifegold]

hope no one lights a match with all that gaslighting

[@jcmichaelw]

This brings PTSD for me and an ex of mine. At least with this video, I can just close the browser window -- not so simple with my ex.

[@fizaahfaiyaz8942]

I miss Father Kieron. Why did you have to kill him? Till date, he has been the best one for JP. Didn't desert him for anyone else (Craig & Ste) or try to kill him (James, kind of) or Beat and manipulate him (George). Petition to bring Kieron back from the dead. 😭😭😭😭😭

[@SuPeRsKiTtLeStAlKeR]

I would like to add Spike onto the good list. Spike always genuinely cared, and tried to make things work with JP even when he knew Craigy boy was likely going to take him. I always liked Spike and Kieron with him.

[@Blessjhons]

These two are really good actors. Sheesh.

[@ekuz986]

Goldie and Nana are probably going to regret pushing John Paul back into George's arms when they find out the truth about George.

[@planningwithjohn]

John Paul let him go he’s not worth it!

[@Not-Ap]

John Paul = “There's a sucker born every minute.” ― P.T. Barnum

[@camrongregor2607]

When u don't love yourself, u get someone like George.

[@Momiji540]

what's the song playing in the background from 1:17 onwards?

[@robertjohnson1602]

As handsome as he is he's screwed in the head. He'll probably get his act together eventually. When he's 20 years older. He won't look quite the same then!

[@chrisxiao2824]

It’s quite silly that John Paul didn’t mention the physical violence when discussing whether George is a good man or not

[@waroftheworlds2008]

I don't know what actually happened. but it's really messed up either way. shame on the "friends" for pushing him back into the relationship.

[@TheHotnessIsHere]

You'd think JP knows what gaslighting is...

[@mrsquietmusic6413]

JP looks so unhappy.

[@adamson786bi3]

just goes to show beauty is decieving

[@kaykay3772]

If u have a partner like George, RUN!!! AND DON'T STOP RUNNIN!!! IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH THEY CRY, HOW MUCH THEY BEG AND PLEAD, AND HOW MUCH THEY THREATEN TO KILL THEMSELVES IF U LEAVE!!!! THEY R NOT WORTH STAYIN WITH!!!! ✋🏻 🏃🏻‍♀️

[@were-all-human9427]

April 2021, dont see this show, so is George still with him, is he a Out&Proud policeman at work or closeted, scene mentions "worried at work" - anyone care to give an update and backstory on George?

[@alexkane3606]

there is no back story

[@123dundundun]

what season is this from, like the start of the relationship etc

[@richardmark07]

I got punched kicked strangled head cut open controlled where my every move was looked at. Once a bully always a bully. I left after 7 years took me 2 to leave. He's dead now died of heart problem I heard

[@joshseymour3910]

Hollyoaks have done the whole domestic abuse thing before but this one seems way more thorough

[@ChelseyLinden]

Josh Seymour “Thorough” Josh???? 🤨🤨🤨🤨

[@joshseymour3910]

@@ChelseyLinden I meant detailed. Sorry if I offended, like for me to personally be LGBT I feel more related, I haven't personally been exposed to this kind of treatment it feels more inclusive

[@ChelseyLinden]

@@joshseymour3910 I’m so sorry to hear that Josh. 😔😔😔😔

[@Tvjunkieful12]

I am a bit confused whether George is supposed to be a narcississtic and controling power freak of a psychopath, or a former victim of abuse who was so traumatized by it he is unable to face the possibility he could be an abuser himself, and therefore started accusing JP instead.

[@joshseymour3910]

@@Tvjunkieful12 I think it's the former, I think he is being abusive and then trying to make JP believe it's his fault and using his power of knowledge about JP's past and the fact that he's a copper to manipulative him

[@faithboot]

I knew something was up on new years eve when he stood on the hill laughing because john paul thought he died

[@themorrigan3673]

I swear the only thing JP needed to do is tell the whole story to someone. He deosnt even complete or tell his stories to courtney and this scene if he had just said he got "punched" goldie wouldnt even give that advise to him instead they will be rallying behind him to scare away george. Mygash is COMMUNICATION really sucks at Hollyoaks??????

[@_itslexxx8368]

George can be one of the greatest manipulator in every nen users tho.😂😂😂 Damn.

[@laminage]

Poor John Paul. Being Sexually Abused, failed Marriage to Ste, then God Knows what.

[@TantredNwosu]

What is the name of the movie

[@chijester221]

George is good, switch the blame make the partner think it’s his faults, classic mental games ….

[@alexrobson7770]

we love these story lines

[@ncboy64]

Damn, George is good! Poor John Paul.

[@ManuelPabloArnao]

Classic toxic gaslighter

[@marcusoconner2805]

It’s called gaslighting

[@dianalu61]

Abusive total and Gasslighting, and Paul is sooo weak and beg for love, how good Perverse Narcisistics Persons choose his víctims, is so sad seeing Paul! remind me my last relation. Totaly Red Flags ! 😰😰🔥 Paul will get it all when the other really hurts him 😰😰🔥

[@CraigJohnSmithNEAT]

To all the hollyhock fans ..do you ever see George and pc kiss ever have a kiss scene

[@brandonstilinskit3924]

So john Paul can't be happy

[@meganalyssabowden3494]

Is he intentionally manipulating or is it his brain genuinely believing his story?

[@sarwendah1]

OMG...abusive partner. So sad.

[@claradavis8555]

THAT RIGHT ABUSED IS ABUSE

[@ashleighelizabethmurray3893]

Too relatable

[@GTolmie89005]

This is gonna be like geoff and yasmine from corrie i can see it

[@menzhim2812]

Oh.. Stop all this abusing already. JP has been there. Not again. It is time to show JP has learnt his lesson and now he is a strong person,. Stronger. Not becoming weaker and a weakling. It is so yesterday.. Cliché.

[@leo2k14]

Oh John Paul....I low key wand dean to come and save the day 🤪

[@peter4611]

James would never hit John Paul

[@ChelseyLinden]

Peter Ly True but he (James “McQueen ❤️”) hit Harry and his own Son Romeo. But still he never did hit John Paul!!!!

[@bbdiscus4741]

Georges is really stunning. he very gorgeous. can we see him in a baiting suit pls.... before he goes away .plssss. for the domestic violence it is well presented. in real they are exactly like that. they want you to feel guilty , like it was your fault. Like they says, to never forget, they begin with littles steps to toss you , if you accept it, they going to go futher. somes psychologues said a man doesnt begin to beat is girlfrind. he have begin with small steps many times ago. maybe we can make an analogie with the psychopath. they begin with smalls animals first

[@ChelseyLinden]

bb discus Or beat on your Boyfriend not just your Girlfriend!!!!

[@davidserlin8097]

I mean, honestly, I’d let George do whatever he wants to me.

[@Really_Its_Me]

Is it bad that I’m kinda lovin this..

[@chrisjmorales577]

I would love a 💕bf with an accent like George

[@storyteller4671]

George is miliplatin John Paul

[@calvinallen3424]

When did he come back to the show?

[@koshikomarikobta9347]

y'all in the comments preaching about to not be in JP situation while im struggling to find one to love 🥴😫

[@Gingerrogers124]

It was a push a shove a punch then what that's what lads do NO IT ISN'T!!! And Christ John Paul don't take love advice of Goldie !

[@wmperkins25]

Those LIPS !!

[@wdp638]

These two men are sweet and tender towards each other it is special to watch!

[@_______unknown_______]

Its true tho jp pushed him and like a real man hit him back (mind u i do believe george is an abusive man but that scene didn't show it imo it showed a showed a normal reaction)

[@gemmaduggan2310]

You sound like a child "like a real man" real men don't raise their hand full stop!

[@_______unknown_______]

@@gemmaduggan2310 well if someone hits someone then they can hit back ffs just cuz ur weak and pathetic and ket ppl push u dont mean others will

[@Brnzgaming_]

@@_______unknown_______look how you speak to women its disgusting

[@_______unknown_______]

@@Brnzgaming_ no it aint women want equality then they get equality id talk like this to a man

[@Brnzgaming_]

@@_______unknown_______ I didnt see her comment shouting hahaha 😆

[@keithfoester7326]

na AH no one hits me and me staying and saying i LOve U crap. LEAVE!