You're Probably Already A Socialist

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Second Thought

Second Thought

3 жыл бұрын

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If you turn on the news today, odds are you'll hear someone use the term "socialism" incorrectly to try to scare you. In this video, I hope to correct the record and explain what socialism really means. If you'd like to learn more, check out the links below!
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Online crash course:
www.socialism101.com
Books and Pamphlets:
Why You Should Be A Socialist - us.macmillan.com/books/978125...
The ABCs of Socialism - www.versobooks.com/books/2219...
Wage Labour and Capital - www.marxists.org/archive/marx...
The Conquest of Bread - theanarchistlibrary.org/libra...
A People's History of the United States - www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-pe...
Hammer and Hoe - uncpress.org/book/97814696254...
Blackshirts and Reds - www.michaelparenti.org/BlackSh...
The Principles of Communism - www.marxists.org/archive/marx...
Socialism, Utopian and Scientific - www.marxists.org/archive/marx...
Why Marx Was Right -
/ why-marx-was-right
Essays and Speeches:
Why Socialism? (Albert Einstein) - www.exponentialimprovement.com...
Eugene Debs' Canton Speech - college.cengage.com/history/a...
Podcasts:
Current Affairs: www.stitcher.com/show/current...
The Dig - www.thedigradio.com
Bad Faith - podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
Blowback - podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
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@inbasicterms-popculturevid1704
@inbasicterms-popculturevid1704 3 жыл бұрын
“When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist.” ― Dom Helder Camara
@LisaBeergutHolst
@LisaBeergutHolst 3 жыл бұрын
@@zero555 Literally not what socialism is about lol
@jacobarcher1097
@jacobarcher1097 3 жыл бұрын
@@zero555 how does workplace democracy make people give others food?
@StitchesForScars
@StitchesForScars 3 жыл бұрын
@@zero555 it's about forcing capitalist to give up their production to the workers, and it has more than just worked.
@JackRabbit9181996
@JackRabbit9181996 3 жыл бұрын
So true! Its almost like they're entirely unwilling to take any responsibility for the shambles our world is in.
@fdsfgdhertek8760
@fdsfgdhertek8760 3 жыл бұрын
@@zero555 thats communism
@QuestionEverythingButWHY
@QuestionEverythingButWHY 3 жыл бұрын
“They have money for war but can't feed the poor.” ― Tupac Shakur
@JayV98
@JayV98 3 жыл бұрын
@nox darkness Even when the religion says to help people. Example: Jesus was a socialist! It says in the Bible!
@JayV98
@JayV98 3 жыл бұрын
@Erik Manbodh It's still a socialist message to help people that Jesus promoted and many tend of these religious people tend to ignore that.
@JayV98
@JayV98 3 жыл бұрын
@Erik Manbodh The basic concept is that Jesus advocated for helping people no matter who.
@JayV98
@JayV98 3 жыл бұрын
@Erik Manbodh What matters is that Jesus was for all those things and these religious fools see it otherwise.
@jasonl9392
@jasonl9392 3 жыл бұрын
@Erik Manbodh Jesus didn't tell us a specific way to give to the poor. he just said that we should give to the poor. given the current state of poverty in this country, we aren't really following his teachings.
@yourtoastershandemover2211
@yourtoastershandemover2211 3 жыл бұрын
I've been called socialist and communist for wanting affordable education, healthcare, higher taxes on the rich, and higher wages for workers. The Cold War has had lasting damages on American's minds regarding what socialism actually means.
@SCHMALLZZZ
@SCHMALLZZZ 3 жыл бұрын
Obviously not communist because Communism is a stateless and classless society with no money.
@slin2903
@slin2903 3 жыл бұрын
Besides higher taxes for the rich I agree Everyone the same taxes!
@yourtoastershandemover2211
@yourtoastershandemover2211 3 жыл бұрын
@@slin2903 Everyone with a similar tax rate would mean the rich would pay much more, the problem is when taxes are cut on the rich it creates a deficit. That's why taxes are raised on everyone else to make up the money lost.
@slin2903
@slin2903 3 жыл бұрын
@@yourtoastershandemover2211 Yeah but taxing the eich higher sounds like rich ppl would pay 30 percent taxes and other 19 percent Not both the same
@televizion9962
@televizion9962 3 жыл бұрын
@@slin2903 well it shouldnt be the same. If someone has billions 20 more millions to pay to the state is barely even a difference.
@killerkitty8058
@killerkitty8058 2 жыл бұрын
Asked my seven year old nephew what we should do about people who don't have place to live, food to eat, or the medicines to save their lives. His answer " Uh, help them".
@VanceVanceRevolution
@VanceVanceRevolution 3 жыл бұрын
“This country has socialism for the rich & rugged individualism for the poor” - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
@KJMac-qk9tv
@KJMac-qk9tv 3 жыл бұрын
As much as I respect MLK, this is a common mistake. Capitalism is the only system for the bourgeoisie (the "rich" under the capitalist mode of production), not socialism. Socialism isn't a term to use for government spending and those who benefit from it, it refers to social ownership of the means of production and economic planning as opposed to market allocation.
@VanceVanceRevolution
@VanceVanceRevolution 3 жыл бұрын
@@KJMac-qk9tv I see what you mean. It would’ve made more sense if he said “welfare” instead of socialism.
@doubleirishdutchsandwich4740
@doubleirishdutchsandwich4740 3 жыл бұрын
@@KJMac-qk9tv Some people tend to associate socialism's "public ownership" with moving private goods to public goods so they are available to everyone irrespective of capital, and therefore welfare tends to be the end result.
@LisaBeergutHolst
@LisaBeergutHolst 3 жыл бұрын
@@KJMac-qk9tv Tell that to the right-wingers calling Joe Biden a "socialist" to further their own quest for power lol
@NoodleErik
@NoodleErik 3 жыл бұрын
Bernie Sanders also said that
@larspeterthomsen9798
@larspeterthomsen9798 3 жыл бұрын
As a Scandinavian, it sounds weird to hear that "Liberals are on the left". In Denmark "liberal" basically means centre-right.
@t6amygdala
@t6amygdala 3 жыл бұрын
because it is. at least neo-liberals are. classical liberals are libertarian capitalists
@user-qs2nr3ee6l
@user-qs2nr3ee6l 3 жыл бұрын
@@t6amygdala Thats just how its used in Europe. Liberal means centre right.
@t6amygdala
@t6amygdala 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-qs2nr3ee6l not really just in Europe. Neo-liberals are not left wing at all
@elguacamolesf4414
@elguacamolesf4414 3 жыл бұрын
Progressives are center-right so it basically means the same. The difference is the fear mongering from groups more to the right.
@user-qs2nr3ee6l
@user-qs2nr3ee6l 3 жыл бұрын
@@t6amygdala Liberal in spain doesnt mean the same tho
@syedusamamanzoor1838
@syedusamamanzoor1838 3 жыл бұрын
Me from a third world country where medical is mostly free, and homeless poor people can get a neurosurgery.... “How the hell does US work with that stupid healthcare system?” But then I realize that my own government is pushing to privatize healthcare.
@lilfoward1832
@lilfoward1832 3 жыл бұрын
We are one of the most powerful and one of the dumbest countries in the world, sadly
@wren_.
@wren_. Жыл бұрын
@@lilfoward1832 then maybe a revolution is in order. if nothing is changing, we can’t just sit around and mope about it not changing, we might as well just kill ourselves if everything is really that hopeless. the people have got a ton of power and could totally change things if we wanted to
@MagicXRoads534
@MagicXRoads534 11 ай бұрын
They're probably being pushed to privatize healthcare by the capitalist countries who are home to the massive corporations that stand to profit from the people's suffering, spread the word and don't let them win o7
@requiem6465
@requiem6465 3 жыл бұрын
How can I be a socialist when I'm an introvert.
@eukarya_
@eukarya_ 3 жыл бұрын
I'm both of those things
@joshuaortiz2031
@joshuaortiz2031 3 жыл бұрын
I am an introvert and a socialist. The two arent independent of each other.
@sonofgreatsteppes9497
@sonofgreatsteppes9497 3 жыл бұрын
Easy! You don't need to go out to streets and shout how Capitalism sucks. You can do whatever you're doing right now and help the cause, either monetarily, actively, morally, or even culturally. I mean, all you need is to believe that Socialism is a better alternative to Capitalism. You do programming, video editing, arts and music, practice medicine, be an engineer, be a reserved debater, a philosopher, an economist, an accountant, an administrator and organizer, hell, even martial arts teacher. I am pretty sure there are groups and chapters, be Socialist or simply charity, that would need your skills and helping hand. That's the beauty of Socialism, it is very inclusive i.e. everyone can do something and help!
@aguyonasiteontheinternet
@aguyonasiteontheinternet 2 жыл бұрын
@@sonofgreatsteppes9497 it think it was a joke comment but i agree with you 100%
@HaHa-gg9dl
@HaHa-gg9dl 2 жыл бұрын
@@kenabbott8585 He can't, he's an introvert ._.
@benshapiroismysexsiave2028
@benshapiroismysexsiave2028 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of conservatives falsely assume capitalism is a meritocracy where wealth is proportional to how much work someone does.
@matimercad0rs
@matimercad0rs 3 жыл бұрын
as a libertarian i confirm. this is 100% true. meritocracy has nothing to do with capitalism. meritocracy is fake and conservatives know it
@McHobotheBobo
@McHobotheBobo 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they rely on hella psychoses
@LisaBeergutHolst
@LisaBeergutHolst 3 жыл бұрын
Oh come on, it takes a lot of effort to pick the right parents 😉
@chimderahokigbo5229
@chimderahokigbo5229 3 жыл бұрын
@@LisaBeergutHolst Maybe if America brings back the nuclear family without pushing the feminist agenda maybe you guys will become better with money
@1tuttyfruti
@1tuttyfruti 3 жыл бұрын
If that was true you could get rich just by working hard on a factory
@leof6046
@leof6046 3 жыл бұрын
"It's a cruel jest to say to a bootless man that he ought to lift himself by his bootstraps." - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
@joevignolor4u949
@joevignolor4u949 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. King was a brilliant man. Did you know that he collaborated with Gene Roddenberry on the Star Trek TV series in the 1960's? Star Trek was a vision of how humanity could improve itself if humans could manage to adjust and improve their thinking. It contained moral lessons on topics such as equality, human dignity, racism and slavery. Dr. King told Nichelle Nichols, who played Lt. Uhura on Star Trek, that he watched the show with his family every week.
@leof6046
@leof6046 3 жыл бұрын
@@joevignolor4u949 I did not know that. Thanks for sharing!
@pepi7404
@pepi7404 3 жыл бұрын
That's my favorite MLK quote.
@leof6046
@leof6046 3 жыл бұрын
@@pepi7404 Definitely one of my favorites, too.
@joevignolor4u949
@joevignolor4u949 3 жыл бұрын
@@leof6046 Check it out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX2yi6uFpJp2sNE and also here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/poTUkIh_qt2Vl5o
@MWhaleK
@MWhaleK 2 жыл бұрын
To many people not only use Socialism and Communism interchangeably but apply the term to anyone or anything they dislike.
@leealexander3507
@leealexander3507 3 жыл бұрын
I studied communism when I was ten years old in order to find out what I was supposed to be afraid of. It was in the 1950s at the hight of the cold war. This led me to study capitalism and socialism as well. Later I looked into these more deeply with an adult understanding along with past economic systems. At ten years old as well as later I realized I was a socialist but would happily settle for a social democracy.
@nickmasuen1859
@nickmasuen1859 2 жыл бұрын
That must of been real interesting since you where there learning it not just because it was during the cold war, but also because you where there during the "Red Scare" that had come into play during that time.
@matthewkopp2391
@matthewkopp2391 2 жыл бұрын
I actually had a similar experience. But I didn’t immediately identify as socialist or social democrat. I did a geography report on China and found out that they actually had democracy within communism. Then I looked into USSR and found out they had democracy as well. I researched the DDR and found out they had democracy as well. Not that there wasn’t oppression but I realized almost everything I was being told was a lie. And that I was being constantly lied to, why was I constantly lied to? It was the long road down how all encompassing US propaganda is. When I went to Germany in 1991 I got the real first hand truth of what was the real story both the good and thing people didn’t like. The contrast to US propaganda was extreme. And that propaganda continues to this day.
@calin6327
@calin6327 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewkopp2391 USSR democracy was a joke. A comedy. A farce. You get one paper, with a few names the one party selected, if that. Usually it was just one person
@skygge1006
@skygge1006 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewkopp2391 the ussr election was a one party election just so you know.
@prikipriki30
@prikipriki30 Жыл бұрын
You are obiusly laying. You cant understand capital without pre-education, and not to mention with 10y.
@KodiaxeMusic
@KodiaxeMusic 3 жыл бұрын
If you grew up quoting "Mr. Krabs is Unfair", there's a good chance you're a socialist.
@hit9819
@hit9819 3 жыл бұрын
I will restore the working man to his rightful glory! I will dismantle this oppressive establishment board by board!
@cornedbeefloaf5799
@cornedbeefloaf5799 3 жыл бұрын
he is tho
@trent800
@trent800 3 жыл бұрын
lol there is a difference between slavery where your boss would sell your soul for 62 cents and capitalism
@galacticbreadboi9796
@galacticbreadboi9796 3 жыл бұрын
As a socialist, can confirm. Now i see why my mother didn't want me watching spongebob as a kid /j
@The_Blue_Ender
@The_Blue_Ender 2 жыл бұрын
What if i thought he was dummy thicc?
@fvr6715
@fvr6715 3 жыл бұрын
from a european perspective: only having to hear a sentence like "if you were able to pay a doctor.." is utterly disturbing
@argonhammer9352
@argonhammer9352 3 жыл бұрын
@Cruiser worst*
@tomd5069
@tomd5069 3 жыл бұрын
@Cruiser *if you’re rich.
@ZugloHUN
@ZugloHUN 3 жыл бұрын
@Cruiser Nice bait
@AnagramGinger
@AnagramGinger 3 жыл бұрын
@Cruiser it doesn’t matter what your sources are, nothing places the US healthcare in the top 10. Let alone first.
@hchskxnbcj
@hchskxnbcj 3 жыл бұрын
If there would be Public librarys shocked me
@kenwhite947
@kenwhite947 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a 52 year old black man that has lived in the US all my life. I’ve watched several of your videos and I really enjoy your content. What you are saying in this video sound like common sense and common human decency to me. But, unfortunately it will never happen in this country. The people in this US are willfully ignorant and to divided for the silliest reasons.
@tylerkrieter
@tylerkrieter 2 жыл бұрын
That's why together as humans we fight for this.
@lystrek9752
@lystrek9752 2 жыл бұрын
Ken, I am a 56 years old grandmother, and I have drastically changed my political views. Capitalism is the root of all evil, and I will support the brilliant younger generations in moving our society to socialism. If I can change and learn this late in life, anything is possible.
@John-mf6ky
@John-mf6ky 2 жыл бұрын
Give it time, the US still has a bad taste left in it's mouth from the Cold war. Most Americans have been pre-programmed to hate anything containing the word socialism/communism because of it. The huge divide on both ends of the political Fringe don't help either
@VitorMadeira
@VitorMadeira 2 жыл бұрын
@@lystrek9752 congratulations. I'm not American but I understand that taking such position as you are doing, it quite a courage move. You are a great example.
@meekos699
@meekos699 2 жыл бұрын
@@lystrek9752 Young people are more on board with social democracy! It is what FDR was! We can fight for it.
@DeputyCartman100
@DeputyCartman100 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite thing when someone decries something as "SOCIALISM!!!1" is to ask them to define it. More often than not, they can't, and boy do they get pissy when you tell them "You can't even define what you're using to decry something. Why the hell should I care about what you have to say about this matter?"
@optillian4182
@optillian4182 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasmaughan4798 No, it's _public_ means of production. Look it up.
@aguyonasiteontheinternet
@aguyonasiteontheinternet 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasmaughan4798 lmao stop commenting on every comment that dislikes the right how much free time do you have
@ErutaniaRose
@ErutaniaRose 2 жыл бұрын
@@aguyonasiteontheinternet Obviously they have too much. Probably because KZbin comments are their form of validation, and they don't spend most of their time doing anything, even fun non-productive things. Oh well. @Thomas Maughan: If you have enough free time to hate on anything and anyone that disagree's with you, then by your own view of the world, you have enough time to fix your life and make it better away from these "evil libs" and "socialist communists" right? Why spend so much time yelling at a void of people you hate when even you admit they won't listen? Just wasting time...and that is something no mortal being can afford.
@michaeladkins6
@michaeladkins6 Жыл бұрын
Before the misterms, I was called a communist online for radical ideas like when an oil company makes 15B in a quarter, its price gouging. Like raising the minimum wage is a good thing because workers spend their money here when corporations make money it goes to stock buy backs and squirrelled away off shore. Also, dont listen to billionaires on the state of the economy.
@Abbetmaan
@Abbetmaan 3 жыл бұрын
Second Thought: You're probably already a socialist Me, a socialist: Yes
@tiagop1410
@tiagop1410 3 жыл бұрын
Very easy being a soycialist in a capitalist country ;)
@PeidosFTW
@PeidosFTW 3 жыл бұрын
@@tiagop1410 imagine using soy as an insult
@yeahokbuddy2510
@yeahokbuddy2510 3 жыл бұрын
@@tiagop1410 ;) Lol SOY you said SOY
@skullthunder3181
@skullthunder3181 3 жыл бұрын
@@tiagop1410 bootlicker detected
@tiagop1410
@tiagop1410 3 жыл бұрын
Can u soycialists tell me why everybody that lives in a socialist contry like cuba and venezuela hates it, but the west seems to flirt with it??
@bloodywanker781
@bloodywanker781 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, here in Europe we don't even call most of it socialism. This is just common sense. what the hell
@eliascaals1826
@eliascaals1826 3 жыл бұрын
yes
@timokho20
@timokho20 3 жыл бұрын
This video is so insanely misleading, I beg you to not take it seriously. It leaves out so much vital information. Claiming that only socialism promotes equal rights for all? So much bullshit. It's extremely simplified. Most of these things have nothing to do with socialism. These things arent called socialism in Europe BECAUSE THEY ARENT. Neither in the US. Socialism is such a flawed system, much worse than the relatively small problems of Capitalism. I don't like calling things propaganda, but if there is something that is just blatant propaganda it would be this. Purely painting Socialism like some ideal fairy tale system that would fix all of society. It's blatantly wrong, it does not attempt to provide any real arguments or start a discussion, nor does it actually explain the socialist system. He just puts a bunch of irrelevant fairy ideas and attaches it to what he calls "socialism". There is a reason why almost all countries in the world are capitalist. And honestly, if you think Europe is socialist then you're really brainwashed. As the other guy said, the only country in Europe with any ties to socialism would be Portugal, but still by no means socialist.
@Indoor_Carrot
@Indoor_Carrot 3 жыл бұрын
@@timokho20 can you give any examples of how capitalism is more beneficial to the poor than socialism?
@vrenak
@vrenak 3 жыл бұрын
@@timokho20 If you actually had watched the video, he did point out it was only about the general thoughts of various left ideologies, nor did he claim all the ideas were unique to the left. He also left a whole list of reading material on various left ideas, expressly because he didn't intend to, nor would be able to condense it all into such a short video. But at least we know we can dismiss your points here because you clearly didn't watch any of it, but just came to rant.
@timokho20
@timokho20 3 жыл бұрын
@@Indoor_Carrot First of it isn't really about whether it's beneficial for the poor, but more for society as a whole, and whether it's right to take away people's money that (yes for most cases) they worked for. Capitalism can absolutely be extremely beneficial for the poor, I mean look at China, which lifted over half a billion people out of poverty in just a few decades, capitalism allows for a free market, innovation, one where the consumer decides the price. It also limits the possibilities of a corrupt government. Capitalism, altho not perfect, is probably the least flawless economic system there is. Capitalism creates jobs, (which yes greatly helps the poor), It allows for competition sparking innovation. Socialism has an enormous amount of flaws. It's impossible to calculate all the prices of products, it's impossible to calculate the exact needed products and materials resulting in either excess in goods or shortages, which can have disastrous results. Prices and markets are absolutely vital to a working running society and allow production to be done according to the demand of the people. It allows for the calculations for prices to automatically be done through all the companies, whether otherwise, 1 governing institution would have it do it. Not only does socialism infringe on pretty basic rights like private property, as an economic system it's far too ideal when it's near impossible to be actually done. In the end, it will make everyone poorer and people will lose their jobs. Sure wealth would be spread more equally, but everyone would overall be poorer and it'd have many negative side effects. The current tax system is already very progressive with the 1% being taxed immensely more than the middle and lower class. Socialism would just be a big step, but also a big step backward. The best thing we can do is make it so that people have equality of opportunity, not outcome. A society with that and where you get rewarded for doing more work or responsibility is an ideal one and one that works.
@Enochluxury
@Enochluxury 3 жыл бұрын
I'am definitely a socialist, as an older black man in American, being in business for most of my life, what could ever go wrong with a system enacted solely on more and more profit or "GREED" .
@cubesolver2564
@cubesolver2564 27 күн бұрын
@@user-gu9yq5sj7c It's also selfish to think that your business deserves to exist even if you are unable to provide adequate enough compensation and working conditions for your workers. If things get so bad that a *labor union* is willingly formed and protests for change, you're probably doing something wrong, and your business is already at risk of failing anyway.
@WindrunnerB4
@WindrunnerB4 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely know I’m a socialist, in the US. When I had a family dinner with some of my family when I said I was a socialist my extremely republican uncle just seemed slightly angry then slightly upset that there was a socialist in the family. That’s my coming out story for being a socialist I just can’t wait until he learns I’m also bisexual.
@DavidRamirez-se2yt
@DavidRamirez-se2yt 2 жыл бұрын
Probably calmer than when you came out as socialist.
@patchwurk6652
@patchwurk6652 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidRamirez-se2yt Yeah the Right's actually (comparatively) cooler with gay people and other demographics than they used to be. At least as long as they're also Rightwing. It probably would be better to be LGBT than a socialist to plenty of them.
@goonerbear8659
@goonerbear8659 2 жыл бұрын
There was a time when my mother said "I'd rather find out you're gay than you're a Democrat." I'm not gay, though both of us have since gone much further left. In her case, it was more of an "oh shit" moment seeing the GOP nakedly engage in a race to the bottom.
@halinaqi2194
@halinaqi2194 Жыл бұрын
It seems nowadays the republican party isn't even trying to hide or dress up their bigotry lmaoo, they sort of bring up crazy ideas, and people just got desensitized to it.
@michaeladkins6
@michaeladkins6 Жыл бұрын
@@goonerbear8659I am gay and a lifetime democrat who is tired of democrats somehow always falling short of much actual change. Ill still vote for them every time. They are infinitely better than republicans.
@lukasstaar6860
@lukasstaar6860 3 жыл бұрын
"If you can afford to go to the doctor you can literally extend your life" Me as a european: W h a t
@jakobbailey
@jakobbailey 3 жыл бұрын
Did you know that delivering a baby in america can cost you upwards of $10,000? Did you know that many if not most hospitals in America charge a fee for allowing you to hold your own child after it's born? Did you know that our government does not legally allow itself to make deals with pharmaceutical companies for cheaper drugs, so even inexpensive medications cost hundreds of dollars at the point of service? My friend had a burst cyst on her ovary, and when we went to the emergency room, she got an xray or an mri or whatever,was prescribed 2 medications, one for pain, and one for nausea, and charged $2000 for the pleasure. Also, I was her ambulance, even though I live a half hour away, because calling an ambulance would've cost her about $1000 more, and that's if it's cheap. We're literally cattle for the profits of the rich.
@helltubejackie1086
@helltubejackie1086 3 жыл бұрын
@@jakobbailey eat the rich
@hilopink
@hilopink 3 жыл бұрын
@@jakobbailey what the actual hell...
@hadassahk3653
@hadassahk3653 3 жыл бұрын
@@jakobbailey my aunts hospital bill when she gave birth was 33000 dollars. Thank God she had insurance. And keep in mind this was not a special hospitals it was just a regular one.
@moneyman88440
@moneyman88440 3 жыл бұрын
@@jakobbailey you call an ambulance $1,000 up front I went to the hospital for an absess (infection) and they charged me 1,000 to look at it say yea thats an infection and write me a prescription for an antibiotic and 5 weak ass painkillers that didnt work
@xkumanekox
@xkumanekox 3 жыл бұрын
"LIBERALS/LIBERALISM AND LEFTISTS/LEFTISM ARE NOT THE SAME THING". Thank you for properly clarifying this.
@unbiased-resource.provider6839
@unbiased-resource.provider6839 3 жыл бұрын
@Second Thought I always thought the left is the umbrella term & liberal means social issues & progressive means economic issues. What's your opinion? 🤔
@edwardroh89
@edwardroh89 3 жыл бұрын
@@unbiased-resource.provider6839 we need to distinguish the fakes (aka liberals/neoliberals) who support symbolic issues that mean nothing and the real issues (progressives). the term "left" has encompassed these dirty parasitic liberals alongside us progressives.
@reedhoward27
@reedhoward27 3 жыл бұрын
@@unbiased-resource.provider6839 Liberalism is generally characterised by representative democracy, free markets, and private ownership of the means of production (Capitalism). Leftism (AKA Socialism) advocates for workplace democracy, abolition of commodity production, and working class ownership of the means of production. If a leftist calls you a liberal they're trying to insult you, and vis versa.
@fatguy6153
@fatguy6153 3 жыл бұрын
@@edwardroh89 Progressive was the term used to describe liberals during the 20th century, of anything the socialists are the parasites to the progressive cause of social democracy. For example, Theodore Roosevelt was the most prominent progressive and he despised Marxism and similar forms of socialism.
@gezi5927
@gezi5927 3 жыл бұрын
@@fatguy6153 yeah he had progressive policies, he was not a progressive
@alexandernovikov5963
@alexandernovikov5963 Жыл бұрын
Americans find it hard to believe, but in the USSR we had free: - apartments with 2-3 rooms for a family. All our parents and grandfathers in the cities had such apartments. Yes, the apartments were not very comfortable and beautiful. But they had central heating, electricity, hot water and gas. These utilities cost ridiculous money. - all medicine. Yes, it was inferior to the best Western medicine. But it was available to everyone and no one bred for money. There was no big pharma. Great attention was paid to prevention, physical education. The health of most people was much better. In the 1990s, after the collapse of the USSR, the population of Russia (as well as Ukraine and all post-Soviet countries simply died out). - all education from kindergartens to universities. - children's clubs, sports clubs, music schools, summer camps (for free or at a ridiculous price) and so on. In addition, there were many things that could not be explained. Even in cities, people could not close their doors, crime is low. No one was afraid for the children. No drug addicts, perverts, terrorists and other things. The choice of food was smaller, but the quality was much higher than modern. At the same time, the USSR lost a huge number of people and resources in the war, which threw the country back for many years. And after the war, it spent a lot of money in the confrontation with NATO because of the fear of a repeat of the war. The USSR was born on the wreckage of the Russian Empire after the First World War and the Civil War. It was a poor, dilapidated country with an uneducated population. After 40 years (despite the huge military losses), we had nuclear power and Yuri Gagarin. And I will add more. Putin and modern Russia have nothing to do with socialism and the USSR! This is wild semi-authoritarian capitalism at the stage of capital accumulation. Tell everyone about it!
@arthurlisi9296
@arthurlisi9296 Жыл бұрын
Well.. I’m a socialist.. I believe what gets in the way with most people is the ego.. the feeling that your only special if someone else is not.. if you have more than them. The failure to understand everyone is a unique specialist and we are here to share that uniqueness with each other that by nature will enrich the lived experience
@sbraypaynt
@sbraypaynt 6 ай бұрын
Once you realise that the drive to feel special by beating someone else at the game is a capitalist mindset you’ll eventually come to understand that it’s also a very common trait of toxic masculinity. Then at some point you’ll realise that capitalism relies on queer phobia, nuclear families, heteronormativity, racism and this game like mindset.
@Osk.S57
@Osk.S57 3 жыл бұрын
There was a phrase in Victorian Britain "The undeserving poor" anyone who was poor or destitute, usually through no fault of their own, were put into "workhouses" . They were then made to do pointless , meaningless work for a bowl of slop to keep them alive. They were punished for not finding non existent work. America still has this "punish the poor" mindset. Poverty is not a life choice, it can happen to anyone. I'll bet many Americans have discovered this with the terrible events of 2020.
@IceBox666theone666
@IceBox666theone666 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasmaughan4798 Do you sniff glue?
@akenji47
@akenji47 3 жыл бұрын
@@joaovmlsilva3509 boa jão
@patchwurk6652
@patchwurk6652 2 жыл бұрын
@@kenabbott8585 "Perhaps you should wish for the ability to come up with a real argument." Says someone who had no argument. You keep Declaring things, but there's no evidence, no sources, nothing backing up your claim in the slightest. Am I supposed to just take you as Gospel? Anything declared without evidence can be equally dismissed without evidence. So where's your proof for the following claim: "Here in the real world, if you don't do drugs, don't have kids before you're married, and don't commit crimes, your chance of being poor is less than 10%" Citation Needed.
@sophiepooks2174
@sophiepooks2174 Жыл бұрын
Similar in Australia, a significant number of the working classes have been turned against working class people who have become unemployed and those in their late 50's-70's on welfare demonized by the mainstream media for over a decade.
@tyman2323
@tyman2323 3 жыл бұрын
“You’re probably already a socialist” (99.99% of Second thought viewers already knowing that)
@christiana5453
@christiana5453 3 жыл бұрын
@@GoldenRockefeller Those very same ideas are shunned and demonized whenever they’re labeled as “socialist.”
@christiana5453
@christiana5453 3 жыл бұрын
@@GoldenRockefeller Why don't you like the socialist plan? Honest question
@mr12aT
@mr12aT 3 жыл бұрын
*99.98%
@kristianstave3904
@kristianstave3904 3 жыл бұрын
I'm proud to be the 0.01% then! With that said I still greatly appreciate these videos
@MannIchFindKeinName
@MannIchFindKeinName 3 жыл бұрын
@@GoldenRockefeller You really can't forget that the USSR was not a democracy. It is not a socialist country anymore, yet it still is a kinda shitty place for personal freedom. So, with or without socialism (which the USSR never was, socialist, it was state communism) this place is awefull, so it cant be the socialism that was the root. And that already is the big difference to today, where people want fairly elected representatives that can actually care about the everyday man, instead of caring for corporations and powerful individuals that keep the officials in power.
@dankmeme2913
@dankmeme2913 2 жыл бұрын
I would still be working in retail, and happily, if the workplace was democratic. I genuinely enjoy working in customer service because I enjoy helping people.
@logans3365
@logans3365 Жыл бұрын
The more of your videos I watch, the more I get frustrated that I will probably never see this future.
@ClassicalTraining
@ClassicalTraining 5 ай бұрын
@logans3365 You might be frustrated... but, have you ever thought that capitalism works in such a way, in order to have people frustrated and lose focus, in order to maintain its power? Because, the more fog they provide for our vision, the harder it is for us to have courage. The bourgeoisie prefer to keep us down, so that they make 100% of our lives. We must not let them! We must try to clear our vision! Those bloodsuckers want us down. Let us say: NO MORE. They will not rob us off our Revolutionary Optimism! Fight back will all your might, comrade!
@charisday3846
@charisday3846 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite thing is that this video is literally sponsored by Jeff Bezos. Using his money to spread anti-Bezos ideas, pro-gamer move.
@Ben-ew9eu
@Ben-ew9eu 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder..... would it also be possible to rant against Socialism in the same way in a Socialist Nation?
@charisday3846
@charisday3846 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ben-ew9eu Lol yes. Socialism is not the equivalent of authoritarianism
@Ben-ew9eu
@Ben-ew9eu 3 жыл бұрын
@@charisday3846 Point out one socialist nation then, where you can freely criticize the government
@charisday3846
@charisday3846 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ben-ew9eu Burkina Faso under Thomas Sankara is one example. He directly took criticism from the citizens and applied it to his policy. But with or without examples, nothing in the definition of socialism implies that free speech need be limited. Additionally, there are numerous capitalist nations in which you can’t criticize the government, but that doesn’t mean authoritarianism must come with capitalism either.
@Ben-ew9eu
@Ben-ew9eu 3 жыл бұрын
​@@charisday3846 Thanks for giving an example, I will definitely look deeper into it. Yeah I agree with you on that part, Authoritarianism is not linked to either Capitalism or Socialism. In order to evaluate both forms of economic structues, we should look at the history of both, which so far favors Capitalism. I am aware, that Western influence often times had a bad effect for some socialist countries that may have turned out to be decent countries. On the other hand, I think it should be also discussed, that so many socialist countries turned out to be authoritarian. For the simplicity of things, I don t make a distinction between Marxism, Socialism and Communism here, so I include the UDSSR and Maos China, when talking about Socialism
@gorse1465
@gorse1465 3 жыл бұрын
im a american and i wish we didnt have to live in fear of having a heart attack and being bankrupted by it
@AvroBellow
@AvroBellow 3 жыл бұрын
It's not a matter of IF you'll get deathly ill.. it's a matter of WHEN.
@Berlinbower
@Berlinbower 2 жыл бұрын
can't fucking believe that people are scared of a heart attack *not because of the heart attack,* but the debt afterwards. christ.
@gorse1465
@gorse1465 2 жыл бұрын
@@reasonerenlightened2456 bro wtf
@reasonerenlightened2456
@reasonerenlightened2456 2 жыл бұрын
@@gorse1465 dictatorship of the proletariat? What is the real way to implement it?
@rizzurpa6729
@rizzurpa6729 2 жыл бұрын
My dad had a heat stroke about a year ago and refused to take an ambulance because the drive alone is 10,000
@xxthexcaliburxx
@xxthexcaliburxx 3 жыл бұрын
As a German, a lot of the things addressed in this video are implemented and work fairly well in our country
@theo_lp
@theo_lp 2 жыл бұрын
But i think it still has a lot of capitalism, not the people should work for the industry - the industry should work for the PEOPLE!
@Alina_Schmidt
@Alina_Schmidt Жыл бұрын
There is universal health care (in US terms), there are certain protections that may be less secure in the US and religious fanatics seem way less dangerous in germany. (They still are.) But if you‘re poor or marginalized in any other way in germany, you‘re not really that much better off (if at all). There are still actual fascists and neonazis in the parliament, official government institutions will ignore a right wing terrorists group of serial murderers for a decade, refugees are treated without dignity - and a lot more. On the other hand, germany seems to not have such visible anti-racist and anti-colonial movements, at least not to my perception, compared to the US. E.g. the Black history of germany is extremely underresearched and invisible. BIPoC anti-racists are very underapprechiated and acknowleged. Not to talk the US better than it is or germany worse than it is, but I guess it‘s always quite complex.
@JPJPR
@JPJPR Жыл бұрын
​@@Alina_Schmidt Sorry, but as a German myself, I can only agree with you that we've got it better than the ultracapitalist hellscape that is the US of A. Germany sadly isn't all that socialist at all. Yes, we've got a bare minimum social safety net and don't pay anywhere near as much as for an education as Americans do. But we've got plenty of hypercapitalism for the working class - especially for the seldom talked about but enormous group of people at the lowest end of the economic scale - to "enjoy" and our mainstream political parties are veeeery capitalistic in their policies at home and abroad. Just ask a greek leftist what you should think of the socialism of Germany. True, the CDU are not overall as brazenly bigotted as are the Republicans and even most of the Democrats are in the US, but they suck plenty and the rest of the mainstream isn't too far off from them. They are all Neoliberals, at least since fucking pear shaped Kohl. Look it up Alina. (Seriously, do, if politics means anything at all to you.) They all suck. Except maybe for the "Linke" (Left) Party, but they are terminal sufferers of the foot in mouth disease and are shut out from power by the other parties. I'm usually quite annoyed how Germany and Europe is often portrayed as some sort of socialist utopia in the US. IT IS NOT. We've all got to get our shit together politically. Germany is fucked. France is fucked. Britain is fucked. All governed by adherents to the tenents of mostly unfettered market liberalism. They all get by on giving lip service to being morally concerned about serious problems like poverty, exploitation, climate change, rent, you name it and NOT DOING ANTYTHING MEANINGFUL ABOUT IT! Sorry ... rant over.
@dhotekaraman2320
@dhotekaraman2320 Жыл бұрын
@@theo_lp I own a Pastry shop. I am going to work very hard for 20 years and have enough saving to open a new Pastry shop on the other side of town. I'll hire a worker to run the new shop. I'll again do the same, again and again. Is this allowed in socialism ?
@theo_lp
@theo_lp Жыл бұрын
@@dhotekaraman2320 today in germany, yes. But in socialism it would also be allowed if you give your workers a fair share for their work( this means that you need to pay them the most of the surplus value). And have them all uninonised. And if the shop would Have higher profits than last year you would be forced to give them a pay raise that matches the profit.
@SarahHeartfrost1
@SarahHeartfrost1 11 ай бұрын
I remember when i was in 5th grade, i though the world was so unfair. I invented my own social system where everyone would have their base needs taken care of, but people who contribute more to society could effectively "cash-in" those contributions for nicer things. I told my friends about it cuz i was excited that i may have found a solution to a lot of world suffering, and was immediately called a socialist and communist like they were horrible dirty words. I dont remember what my mom said, but she was probably uncomfortable with her kid being excited about socialism. Spent my whole life since then thinking this system would never work and that it was a pipe dream that everyone else though was evil. Thank you so much for reawakening my true beliefs! Ive been binging your videos the last week and its been giving me so much hope that change can happen
@kyleaca5122
@kyleaca5122 3 жыл бұрын
Me: “We’re already socialist?” Second Thought: (points gun at back of my head) “Always have been”
@misterscorpius1446
@misterscorpius1446 3 жыл бұрын
Socialist: "I'm commiting suicide?" CIA: (points gun at the back of socialist's head) "Always have been"
@misterscorpius1446
@misterscorpius1446 3 жыл бұрын
@ElephantsLover He's saying that 1950s tradcon stuff is not traditionalism. The biggest indicator for this is that it was invented 70 years ago.
@deadprivacy
@deadprivacy 3 жыл бұрын
theres usually a gun pointed at someones head in socialism , it gets messy.
@FakeSchrodingersCat
@FakeSchrodingersCat 3 жыл бұрын
@albert einstien Collectivism is a derivative of Socialism, but it is not the whole or even a major ideology within the umbrella and it is certainly not synonymous with leftism. The number of collectivists has never been very high and on the whole the entire ideology has been discredited outside of some anarchist groups, and lip service by unions.
@brentkn
@brentkn 3 жыл бұрын
He did say you can hit "dislike" and leave right at the beginning. That means you were given a choice. You always had the choice and you did take whatever choice you wanted even when you thought you had no choice. That is not someone 'pointing a gun at your head'. Nobody forced you to watch this video. Nobody forced you to turn on your computer. You did so out of choice. Choice is free will. Learn the difference and you will sound less a fool.
@radunicoara8057
@radunicoara8057 3 жыл бұрын
Coming from the EU, where literally every country has a state-run healthcare, a retirement schema, unemployment benefits, long-term care for people with disabilities (and this applies even for the poor countries), I find it absurd how the US disregards basic human decency as being anti-freedom. Glad that I live in a socialist Europe.
@oracle8192
@oracle8192 3 жыл бұрын
Europe, unfortunately is not socialist. It is still very capitalist and something tells me that you don't actually live in europe considering that you don't realize that. Last time I checked, europe has not had the overthrowing of private property and enterprise nor has it had a proletarian revolution and siezure of the means of production. Now since I'm a communist I wish that it did! I love communism and I love socialism
@jpgames4073
@jpgames4073 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Except Poland and Hungary, we are all free to travel, get the right school and speak out without not much of a restriction. It's really awesome, but I still don't understand, why some people tend to be "unhappy" and tend to go to extremes (anti-vaxx, radical rightists and so on = sometimes i just call them stupid or uneducated)
@skullthunder3181
@skullthunder3181 3 жыл бұрын
Not socialist, social democracy
@Bezimienny1598
@Bezimienny1598 3 жыл бұрын
@@jpgames4073 I'm sorry but what do you mean by "Except Poland and Hungary"? While I do not agree with anything the polish government is doing, what you said is a big overstatement.
@johnnybestjojo7789
@johnnybestjojo7789 3 жыл бұрын
europe isn't socialist
@KILLERONROAD
@KILLERONROAD Жыл бұрын
Why yes, I am a socialist. I've lived through some of capitalism's worst aspects and early on in adulthood, realized how horrible the system actually is. I dare you to get too sick to work with no savings for several years, I dare you to still appreciate capitalism in America after that experience. I dare you to lose your home while employed because your landlord, along with everyone else, jacked up rent forcing you onto the street. When you see what socialism really is, you'll start to realize how great it really can be for everyone.
@Cold_Zero_The_Wise
@Cold_Zero_The_Wise Жыл бұрын
Capitalism: more power to the system Socialism: more power to the people
@MaestroSobol
@MaestroSobol 3 жыл бұрын
You should have broken down why the mainstream narrative equates “socialism” with “authoritarianism”, and also about how large corporations allowed to exist unchecked in a free market capitalism are inherently i democratic and in fact authoritarian themselves.
@skore9975
@skore9975 3 жыл бұрын
So this dichotomy is kind of a fake one, since socialism can only be truly obtained through revolution, no matter if you're a ML or an anarchist or a trotskyist, or whatever else. Revolution is inherently authoritarian since the authority of the proletariat must be specifically wielded to keep the means of production and political power in the hands of the proletariat. Political authority is also necessary for any truly socialist system to remove the bourgeoisie from power. The true differences lie in where that authority is vested. In all forms of capitalism, that authority is held by the few members of the bourgeoisie and exercised on the working classes in a top-down fashion (up to and even including petty bourgeoisie.) In socialism, that authority is held communally by the proletariat, and wielded bottom-up. So I think that a better classification than a confusing libertarian-authoritarian axis would be where the power is based. I'm not going to get into factionalism and describing the different schools of leftist thought, so this is where this comment must end.
@Quetzocotol
@Quetzocotol 3 жыл бұрын
@@skore9975 I'd like to believe that socialism can be achieved without force, but that does seem idealistic and not ever how it's historically worked. Revolution is authoritarian, it's true, so you could say socialism will always have an authoritarian element that is exercised by the proletariat against capital. It's unfortunate that capitalists will take that nugget of truth and use it to associate socialism with a kind of rigid, fascistic 1984 type society, when in reality socialism will be less restrictive for the individual than our current liberal order
@Flying_Spaghetti_Monster
@Flying_Spaghetti_Monster 3 жыл бұрын
Because it is unstable and can only exist long term under an authoritarian regime.
@DkKombo
@DkKombo 3 жыл бұрын
@@LD-tn6ff except it's always been a Democratic republic, not a democracy. Why does everyone forget that? Thus, these reforms, under the right terms, would absolutely be around.
@romanempire8705
@romanempire8705 3 жыл бұрын
What's Libertarian Socialism? You got me curious!
@miasolum5612
@miasolum5612 3 жыл бұрын
Idea for future Video: "Socialism vs Communism: Whats the difference?" May be a good educational video for people who think they are the same.
@waspoppin4784
@waspoppin4784 3 жыл бұрын
Socialism is when the government does stuff, and when it does a lot of stuff it’s called communism.
@papichulo4171
@papichulo4171 3 жыл бұрын
Communism is the stage after socialism, just as socialism would be the stage after capitalism and capitalism would be the stage after feudalism. Communism is defined by Marx as classless, stateless, and moneyless society. Socialism is needed to build towards communism. Boom answered you're question. Also, if you want a much more detailed and informative explanation of these concepts maybe check out this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnLSnHR5Z9WNjck&app=desktop although I will warn you, it is pretty long and only part 1, with the part 2 being just as long.
@miasolum5612
@miasolum5612 3 жыл бұрын
@@waspoppin4784 xD
@miasolum5612
@miasolum5612 3 жыл бұрын
@@papichulo4171 I know what it is. But many people think, that for example, the soviet union was fully communist. But by your (and the official definition), its not, cause there was still a state.
@Arbaaltheundefeated
@Arbaaltheundefeated 3 жыл бұрын
@Jhonny Auditore In fact it needs a state to not collapse horrendously in on itself in a matter of a few years, hence the massive bailouts and constant tax relief and maintaining of tax loopholes that allow them to pay in some cases virtually no taxes at all. A capitalist society without an actively interfering state would not be capable of surviving as a cohesive society at all. At least communism has a stateless society without hierarchy as its ideal end goal even if it is likely true that human nature would always ruin it, most probably before it could ever even get that far.
@AkiraUema
@AkiraUema Жыл бұрын
I was shocked to see that Americans consider liberals to be “left wing”. In Brazil, liberals are all the way to the right
@williamsawyer7993
@williamsawyer7993 Жыл бұрын
It's a silly term that is thrown around in states, liberals to the right would usually specifically identify themselves as "libertarian" or a "classical liberal." But yes generally in America the term "liberal" refers to the socially progressive left.
@imanolgamez3299
@imanolgamez3299 Жыл бұрын
In Mexico, in school we are taught of one of the most popular quotes of the country: la tierra es de quien la trabaja (the land is that of who works it) and grew up agreeing with it. It was only a few years ago when I had the luck of finding your chanel and discovering that the phrase was just socialism.
@angelo_villones
@angelo_villones 3 жыл бұрын
Second Thought: “You’re probably already a socialist.” Me before watching the video: Yup. You’re 100% correct.
@frittatas8551
@frittatas8551 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is in the US, anything that is SLIGHTLY to the left is considered communism
@hfreddy127
@hfreddy127 3 жыл бұрын
@@frittatas8551 Finally someone said it loud and clear!
@AndrewManook
@AndrewManook 3 жыл бұрын
@@wilhelmseleorningcniht9410 Communists and Socialists are still leftists, libs are not.
@VK-pn6rg
@VK-pn6rg 3 жыл бұрын
Laughs in Indian
@fakebunny1272
@fakebunny1272 3 жыл бұрын
video: omae was mou soshilaistu me: nani!!!!
@tristanneal9552
@tristanneal9552 3 жыл бұрын
Here's the thing, I think many people on the Right (especially rural conservatives) would agree that all of these concepts are great. It's hard to argue that free healthcare, free education, more power in the workplace, etc. sound like amazing, almost utopian concepts. But it's that last part that's the sticking point - this all sounds *too good* to be true. The arguments against Socialism aren't that it's immoral, but that it's not practical and that it trends towards collapse, and that systems like neoliberal capitalism aren't perfect but get us closer to those goals then pie in the sky Socialism. People see examples like Venezuela and say "I don't want my country to end up like that". My FIL is basically Socialist in his thoughts, but remains a rigid conservative because he's been convinced it's the only system that works. A much more effective follow-up video that I'd love to see would be one analyzing why Socialist systems fail, why some succeed, and how your proposed American Socialist system would avoid the trappings and pitfalls that the Right is so afraid of. I think a video like that would be much better at convincing people this system is worth a try.
@basass101
@basass101 3 жыл бұрын
Add that to the possibilities inherent in identity politics that tends to come packaged with socialism nowadays, and many self-proclaimed classical liberals don't really feel like they have a choice.
@yepstill8773
@yepstill8773 3 жыл бұрын
How does capitalism work? Bezos makes 1000000000x more than any member of the working class. Is that capitalism working as intended? People were mercilessly exploited just so I could type this comment here. Is it working as intended? Multi national mega corps being given control over the natural resources of developing countries. Is it working as intended? Conglomerates conspiring to manipulate the very workings of the minds of the people for the sole sake of profit. Is it working as intended? Our delicate planet is being thoughtlessly exploited to and has already been massacred beyond the point of no return. Is it working as intended? Because if it's working as intended I don't want a system that works like that, and I don't know why anyone would, except for their being indoctrinated into believing it's the only way to do things.
@jasonl9392
@jasonl9392 3 жыл бұрын
but these utopian concepts exists elsewhere. people love to claim that Venezuela is socialist when all they do is try to emulate the policies found in Nordic countries. the only difference is that the United States doesnt embargo Nordic countries.
@willmungas8964
@willmungas8964 3 жыл бұрын
@@yepstill8773 It's clear we need to help the bottom percent and cut off the top percent, but we should still have a capitalism - _based_ economy. The free market simply gets a lot more done without the complications of popular opinion, it's just inherent. The problems lie in the extreme growth of the rich at the expense of the poor, when capitalism is left unconstrained in its goal of profit. OP is correct. We need a system that combines socialistic elements that benefit everyone, some elements to help the bottom few percent live better lives, but also a fair amount of capitalism and merit-rewarding economy. Why should you work a highly prestigious job if you get paid the same as a much lower skill job? Once incentives to work for the qualifications of higher status jobs are removed, people simply won't choose to go through with that, because let's face it, excepting the people who are really passionate about such jobs (which there won't be enough of), most people are too lazy to work a ton for goals they don't care about and don't get tangible benefits from. It's clear we need to take some of Bezos' billions and redistribute them, but we need to do it in a way that still gives people incentives to self improve and to dedicate effort to long term goals of status. There will inherently be a bottom 10% in any form of freedom, but we can do our best to minimize the gap between each socioeconomic tier of the population, while still allowing for a small gap that encourages people to go the extra mile and still be doctors, or lawyers, or whatever. We should pay teachers and janitors and restaurant workers more, and executives less, but it's ok for there to be a difference. We just cannot afford to let profit be the sole motivation anymore, and to let the difference be so staggering. Bezos doesn't need those billions, but that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve some benefits as the top of the tier. It's also worth making sure that people don't just inherit companies, they have to prove themselves capable and worthy of holding upper positions. More of a meritocracy than capitalism or socialism.
@yepstill8773
@yepstill8773 3 жыл бұрын
@Will Mungas Capitalism and the free market are fundamentally opposing concepts. The profit motive, which is imperative, drives the capitalist to make decisions that undermine the freedom of the market. Thus, it is inevitable that the free market under capitalism devolves into a monopolized, duopolized, or oligopolized market. Why is the pursuit of profit imperative(and thus inescapable) for the capitalist? Such is the very nature of the free market. If the capitalist does not pursue profit, another capitalist will pursue profit, and that means, ultimately, attempting to undermine the freedom of the market, and consequentially driving other capitalists out of the market. Is the undermining of the free market the only way for the capitalist to pursue profit? It is not the only way for the capitalist to pursue profit. However, to undermine the free market is the ultimate goal of all other means of pursuit of profit. Thus, the subversion of the free market is the ultimate goal of the capitalist, and every capitalist finds himself in a race to establish restrictive dominion over the market. If a capitalist does not engage in this race, he will inevitably be driven out of the market by another capitalist who has chosen to engage in the race towards dominion of the market. Does not competition among capitalists in the free market serve to combat this? Competition can only delay the inevitable demise of the freedom in the market at the hands of the capitalist. The more capitalists there are at an equal level in the race towards the dominion of the market, the longer it will take for restrictive control to be established over the market. Cannot restrictions be put in place to restrict the abilities of capitalists to engage in monopolistic practices? Any sufficiently restrictive rules that would strip the capitalist of his ability to engage in monopolistic practices, will completely undermine on its own the freedom that it was supposed to protect. But is that still not preferable to the capitalist’s dominion of the market? While it is indeed preferable, restricting the freedom of the players of the market is not a good way of preserving the freedom of the market, obviously. This is part of one of my essays against capitalism and I hope you at least can see how it's fundamentally opposed to the idea of a free market. Also realize that a free market is not exclusive to capitalist economies.
@toastedbread63
@toastedbread63 2 жыл бұрын
I learned today in my AP US Gov class that the Constitution and the system that our country was originally made to run under was made so the tyranny of the majority did not make bad decisions against the minority. This was done because at the time most people were uneducated so we need to elect educated people to make the decisions and my teacher thought it was the best idea, but I cant help but think what happens when the public becomes educated like we sort of are today? Do we need this protection against the majority still and it also makes me question why our education system is so bad if it was one of the goals of the government to fight against the uneducated in policy making, it makes me think that our education system is being kept in shambles for a reason, so that the most powerful people can hold a tight fist around the poor that can't get as good an education to be able to learn to not fall under mass medias control. While this is happening to the poor, the rich that attend good schools are able to prosper and pursue successful careers in whatever they want, including politics. This continues the cycle and more rich people keep their power while bringing up the next generation of rich people. Additionally what makes it even worse is the fact that this system affects minorities even more than the average poor white citizen. Not only is there classism and wealth suppression in play but also racism, homophobia, and sexism at the same time in this brutal system.
@aodhstormeyes
@aodhstormeyes 3 жыл бұрын
Then there's me who goes one step further. I'm communist. In a perfect world, people would share their gains with others, taking only what they needed for themselves, using the extra for the benefit of mankind. But I'll settle for socialism if we can get there.
@Rhaegar19
@Rhaegar19 3 жыл бұрын
We can't even get everyone to wear masks during a pandemic. I hate to say it, but I think you're a little too optimistic.
@aodhstormeyes
@aodhstormeyes 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rhaegar19 no shit, however socialist values poll pretty well even among the right when they aren't framed as "socialist values", which is why I'm willing to accept a socialist world even if I can't get my communist one.
@Rhaegar19
@Rhaegar19 3 жыл бұрын
@@aodhstormeyes Socialism is doable.
@Dell-ol6hb
@Dell-ol6hb 3 жыл бұрын
I used to be anti-socialist till I really started reading about it objectively and was like "I agree completely" it's amazing the effectiveness of the propaganda in popular media to beat this false idea of socialism into my head.
@oracle8192
@oracle8192 3 жыл бұрын
Wait so you now believe in proletarian siezure of the means of production, an abolishment of private property and wage labor, and the destruction of commodity form?
@onefix8816
@onefix8816 3 жыл бұрын
@@oracle8192 socialism is always tied to communism, it just ain’ gonna work.
@kensh851
@kensh851 3 жыл бұрын
I think you think that socialism is pretty much like russia leaving durable and potato is dirty kind a way
@remco6816
@remco6816 3 жыл бұрын
@@onefix8816 explain why that would be the case? And tell me how many countries in Europe are communist because of their social healthcare systems and schools? In my perspective what you are saying is an extremely selective perspective of 2 countries and missing out all the other countries. Like most countries besides America.. while even some states are quite socialistic.
@onefix8816
@onefix8816 3 жыл бұрын
@@remco6816 there's a difference between social programs, and socialism. True socialism is the equal-distribution of goods across a nation.
@philstaniscia7103
@philstaniscia7103 3 жыл бұрын
The American Dream, you have to be asleep to believe it. - George Carlin
@ericcartmann
@ericcartmann 3 жыл бұрын
Just a reminder. If workers were able to do their job better than the "managers", what stops them from leaving and starting their own company? They fail to realise thats all they can do. They cant run a business.
@TribuneAquila
@TribuneAquila 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericcartmann ok but generally "managers" dont do the same work as workers. So its not so much about the workers being able to do a managers job better, but rather do managers actually provide any tangible benifit a worker cant? Do managers actually provide labor?
@kamk8232
@kamk8232 3 жыл бұрын
Said the guy that made millions telling jokes. Please.
@notmenotyou
@notmenotyou 3 жыл бұрын
@@TribuneAquila managers do put in labour, even the CEO does. They still put in the hours, but they make rules on behalf of the shareholders. There are large coops that have managers and CEOs, the CEOs are elected, and the profit stays in the company, so the workers control the higher ups, rather than shareholders. Managers arent the problem. It's kinda like with cops. They do put in work but sadly its defending the order of capitalism.
@thefistshaker2015
@thefistshaker2015 3 жыл бұрын
@@kamk8232 And if he didn't make those millions, you'd say he's just a free loader or something lol. Just because some people are very successful doesn't negate that we have grave inequality, death to preventable diseases, poor work/life balance, etc.
@denisdionis4195
@denisdionis4195 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, comrade! I am a student from Russia. For 18 years of my life I lived in a small town in the Murmansk region (it's chilly there at times), where I got a good school education thanks to the wonderful Soviet teachers who still teach us (it's a pity there are fewer of them every year!). Three years ago I moved to Moscow to study at university (unfortunately, by the way, for a fee). I believed in the wonders of the market economy, the consolidated competition, but for a year now I am a follower of socialist ideas. Like many in Russia, it began with the idea of a great country of the USSR (the red-brown idea, so to speak), but then, as I read Lenin, Marx, the expanse of Russian socialist bloggers, such as Klim Zhukov, Remy Meisner, Konstantin Semin, I began to understand the "truth" :D. About six months ago I came across your videos. The first video I watched was about how capitalism ruined Russia. I really appreciate your work, it's a really useful community service! You influenced me and you're influencing a lot of people, that's worth a lot! Thank you so much again! Proletarians of all countries, unite!
@someonestupid6385
@someonestupid6385 Жыл бұрын
i grew up in poland thinking that the left is the worst thing that happened to humanity well (becuse you know soviet union and poland not the best history in between them) now i am a socialist myself i wish you a good day comrade
@mogo-wc7xw
@mogo-wc7xw 10 ай бұрын
u should probably get out of russia
@FloppityFlopFlop777
@FloppityFlopFlop777 5 ай бұрын
The great irony is that Russian communism wasn't anywhere near as extreme as Western "liberalism" in overturning the basic structures that undergird civilization, contrary to popular opinion in America. I find it highly disingenuous of this video's narrator to pretend that extremist *social* "progressivism" is the foundation of all Left-of-center politics. It most certainly is NOT. Real Leftism has always been firmly founded upon *economic* equity. Heck, historically, the Democrats were the party of Southern segregationists. Leaving racism behind was obviously a good thing, but leaving one's brain behind isn't, and that's what contemporary "progressives" who claim the Leftist label have largely done. As an old-school Leftist, I've always strongly supported economic, and to a lesser extent, social liberalism. But I'm appalled at the recent, mindless irrationality of identity politics and other social "progressive" movements (which couldn't be more regressive in reality--which SJWs no longer admit exists independent of their "feelings"). I want nothing to do with it. Neither did the former Democrats of the Walk Away movement, who sadly wandered much further right than I could ever go in good conscience. At present, I see no viable alternative for classical Leftists like myself in the political arena, so after many years of activism and engagement, I'm taking a step back to regroup. I'm not sure I could bring myself to vote for the right in light of their recent lunatic antics, but I certainly can't vote for the Left again until people of sound mind recapture its leadership and rhetoric.
@FrigidOven
@FrigidOven 11 ай бұрын
Gotta love the europeans in here thinking they already have socialism.
@AutheYste
@AutheYste 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm kind of disappointed by my fellow European, a lot of them seem to think our governments are so much advanced and have achieve equality. The blinders people put to ignore their own societies' issues are quite impressive.
@RoughDetails
@RoughDetails 4 ай бұрын
@FrigidOven Years of reactionary propaganda and the carrot of the EU, plus unequal exchange, labor aristocracy and the half-assed solutions that they gave to the proletariat so that they wouldn't demand to have every right that the USSR provided. Every damn thing has gone downhill since the fall of the Soviet Union.
@mick-wz6yu
@mick-wz6yu 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus this video brought a tear to my eye and then the audible ad came in lol.
@akuji1993
@akuji1993 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it probably would’ve been a good idea to not include it in this video....
@Sbaliosa
@Sbaliosa 3 жыл бұрын
Having to play by capitalism's rules does not diminish the integrity of the criticism one may have for that system. You can hate your employer and still show up to work for them every day.
@KingyofSpades
@KingyofSpades 3 жыл бұрын
I don't fault second thought for it but the irony made me laugh ngl
@midgetwars1
@midgetwars1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sbaliosa I mean, sure but it probably does if you're shilling Amazon. There's plenty of other companies that aren't as capitalistic and insane as Amazon. Nobody's gonna deride him for putting it on KZbin and enabling ads. It's the only way it is, but advertising Audible isn't the only way.
@grundlehunter69
@grundlehunter69 3 жыл бұрын
@@midgetwars1 You're missing the point here. This guy needs to pay the bills, Amazon is paying his bills. He's gotta take what he can get.
@kittenpraxis2380
@kittenpraxis2380 3 жыл бұрын
me in real life: socialist that wants everyone to live and not just survive day by day my GTA account: 💰💰💰💵💵💵📈📈📈
@gabec.5514
@gabec.5514 3 жыл бұрын
Lmaooooo
@filip-i-9156
@filip-i-9156 3 жыл бұрын
Add me on psn: FiLiP836
@mikefitzgerald406
@mikefitzgerald406 3 жыл бұрын
Me
@zulthyr1852
@zulthyr1852 3 жыл бұрын
Me in real life: Socialist Me while gaming: Either a nazi or an ancap
@jotarobat
@jotarobat 3 жыл бұрын
Me in real life: a socialist who believe in the abolition of billionaires and throwing elon musk into a pool of flaming lego Me playing Kerbal Space Program: alrighty jebbediah it's money laundering time
@The_alchemistress
@The_alchemistress Жыл бұрын
I remember the first time I came across this I was in denial. I thought this was just how normal capitalism was which is strange bc I came from a republican family. Now I’m proud to say that I’m a green socialist. I feel so happy and be the hippie alchemist trans-girl here at university.
@mitologijaiokultizam7608
@mitologijaiokultizam7608 2 жыл бұрын
You really helped me a lot with this little story. You helped me understand and realise, that being a Socialist not only is not wrong, contreary, if you enter in the whole thing realy honest, and with pure heart, mind and soul, it can be wonderful, fulfilling, and satisfying. And I think it's a way of life in wich we all, people of the entire world could have hope for the better and brighter future. From my hear, thank you brother. Much love, respect, and best wishes, from Serbia, southeast Europe.😊😎😇
@calvincorn7985
@calvincorn7985 3 жыл бұрын
I remember 2 years ago I thought socialism was a dumb ideology. Then I read more, learned more, 2020 radicalized the hell out of me, I realized that racism and capitalism were directly linked, how the state is responsible for upholding this unjust hierarchy and boom: now I’m an anarchist. Crazy how fast you can change in such a short amount of time.
@Zabuzakashi
@Zabuzakashi 3 жыл бұрын
I applaud you! Any advice on how to root friends that have fallen into a more right-wing ideology trap in reality? What worked for you?
@calvincorn7985
@calvincorn7985 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zabuzakashi Depends on how far deep they are honestly. The best cure for ignorance though is education and how you frame that education. My advice would be to take it slow, criticize the Dems and Republicans in a soft way. Highlight the flaws in the system and how capitalist liberalism fails on its problem of freedom and equality. Keep inching towards the possibility for change outside of the established political realm. It’ll take time, all of my close friends are socialists now cause I just talked to them about stuff. Good luck comrade!
@duck-o9151
@duck-o9151 3 жыл бұрын
I live in the Netherlands and my civics teacher said how the US is run that it is not or barely a democracy
@LisaBeergutHolst
@LisaBeergutHolst 3 жыл бұрын
They are correct.
@McHobotheBobo
@McHobotheBobo 3 жыл бұрын
One of the most naked dictatorships of the bourgeoisie
@gerritclaesen
@gerritclaesen 3 жыл бұрын
China ; one party US ; two party ( witch do just the same )
@oracle8192
@oracle8192 3 жыл бұрын
@@bagchasingbandit6274 unfortunately it is not that either
@duck-o9151
@duck-o9151 3 жыл бұрын
@@bagchasingbandit6274 yes the Netherlands is also not a direct domecracy its a parlemantary democracy we vote for a party and it depends how many votes they have how many seats they will have in the room BTW: no party can own more then 50 percent of the seats So there are multiple groups and not just left or right but together mashed together forced to come to a agreement
@derpcreamcone
@derpcreamcone 3 жыл бұрын
Your probably a Socialist: Me a communist: ummmmmmmm…
@joshyboi6175
@joshyboi6175 11 ай бұрын
You make good points in these videos. I would like to make a couple points (this is personal viewpoint): As an Australian I can say that many of the problems you talk of are not as apparent in our society. I see this as a result of our regulated capitalism. Regulated capitalism still allows for the benefits that cause richer economies, but also it allows for the fairer wages and more rights to say, free hospital care. In this way although America will have a higher GDP per capita, Australia's average wage is much higher. This does not mean I think a socialist society would fix the problems. When the workers can negotiate wages and jobs, the competitive nature of work and the desire to do your best in a job is somewhat nullified as it is now safer to try and get away with as little work as possible and still get a decent wage. Finally I believe many of your problems can be traced back to your government. With an unstable state based presidential first-past-the-post system, and corrupt politicians who invest in shares with insider information, you end up with unfairness and bias in your electoral system. The parliamentary vote with instant runoff and proportional representation with many checks and balances in Australia leads to much less corrupt and much more democratic governments.
@irishbattletoster9265
@irishbattletoster9265 3 жыл бұрын
This video is blessed by an Irish tank
@Retaliatixn
@Retaliatixn 3 жыл бұрын
Can you bless our Algerian Hirak, Irish Tank ?
@darthjarjarbinkstherealsit6832
@darthjarjarbinkstherealsit6832 3 жыл бұрын
Tankie on a different level.
@catrielmarignaclionti4518
@catrielmarignaclionti4518 3 жыл бұрын
@@darthjarjarbinkstherealsit6832 Literally a tankie, an Irish tankie at that
@CadetSammons
@CadetSammons 3 жыл бұрын
I saw! Such a rare sight!
@ewanstardis8462
@ewanstardis8462 3 жыл бұрын
As an Englishmen I hope you unite Ireland peacefully cuz I don’t wanna fight those
@thebreadtable4880
@thebreadtable4880 3 жыл бұрын
“We’re demanding either a federal job guarantee or universal basic income, along with a budget that represents the needs of working people rather than the rich.” - MLK
@oracle8192
@oracle8192 3 жыл бұрын
Damn I didn't know MLK was a shitty socdem, sad!
@thebreadtable4880
@thebreadtable4880 3 жыл бұрын
@Estex it would help those in need the most, so I contend your statement isn’t entirely accurate
@thebreadtable4880
@thebreadtable4880 3 жыл бұрын
@@oracle8192 I’m a socialist and I love mlk. Stop being self defeatist and tearing down allies. You have much more in common w a socdem than a conservative or neoliberal
@thebreadtable4880
@thebreadtable4880 3 жыл бұрын
@Estex ok then do a job guarantee. I really don’t care we aren’t getting socialism I’ll fucking take welfare while the world burns
@TerryHuntable
@TerryHuntable 2 жыл бұрын
Bro the capitalist neck beards in this comment section are truly painful
@Crystal23
@Crystal23 2 жыл бұрын
Me a Vietnamese: - I'm already 4 parallel universe before you
@sidnynasty7908
@sidnynasty7908 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao everyone sounding off in the comments about being comrades, we love to see it!
@marcostargaryen4181
@marcostargaryen4181 3 жыл бұрын
MY DEAR COMRADES 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
@9manny99
@9manny99 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcostargaryen4181 my fellow American!
@marcostargaryen4181
@marcostargaryen4181 3 жыл бұрын
@JC1985 now let's eat the rich
@DAFLIDMAN
@DAFLIDMAN 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing we have to lose is our chains!
@Atoll-ok1zm
@Atoll-ok1zm 3 жыл бұрын
Comrade!
@Matty002
@Matty002 3 жыл бұрын
humanity: nobody deserves to suffer americans: eww
@elin4364
@elin4364 3 жыл бұрын
"but its more profitable for them to suffer" - capitalists
@JastwatchingYT
@JastwatchingYT 3 жыл бұрын
@@elin4364 even if they don't want them to suffer they still would have to make them suffer to get more money to make a bigger company which leads to more suffering, more money, bigger company and it just repeats until there is a economic crises.
@Dellors-Civic
@Dellors-Civic 3 жыл бұрын
What?
@aneeya9387
@aneeya9387 3 жыл бұрын
@@JastwatchingYT capitalism in a nutshell. The capitalists aren't evil, they're just people like us. It's the system that pushes them to do stuff that we consider evil
@aneeya9387
@aneeya9387 3 жыл бұрын
@Dillon McCluskey we don't want "free handouts" lol we want what we deserve
@sablin819
@sablin819 Жыл бұрын
who else is already a socialist or communist before whatching this vid?
@FinnyThePorg
@FinnyThePorg Жыл бұрын
I was but didn’t know it. This video helped me realize it.
@leolion3323
@leolion3323 Жыл бұрын
✌🏻
@throwfascistsintopits3062
@throwfascistsintopits3062 Жыл бұрын
Oh i know them. That would be me.
@sablin819
@sablin819 Жыл бұрын
@@throwfascistsintopits3062 even your name says it lol
@Ate.ria04
@Ate.ria04 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh thank you so much!!! This literally made me understand more . & it also makes sense because Scandinavian countries are always at the top of everything from economic wealth to personal well being. Anyways as a young person who’s graduating from high school in June 2022 I feel like socialism actually works for society. Democracy and socialism . That does not mean I’m a communist! .
@MaximCatrinoiu
@MaximCatrinoiu 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to hear some zoomers have their heads on their shoulders. I'm from Eastern EU and a leftist myself, there are a lot of "socialist/lefty" grifters which end up being neoliberal, corrupt, dictatorial or worse, all of the above. Leftism is a good thing but it can also be naive, be careful of that.
@MeltsLikeCaramel
@MeltsLikeCaramel 2 жыл бұрын
It seems there is hope for America after all.
@amithsaligrama7429
@amithsaligrama7429 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up during the cold war and was brainwashed into thinking that leftist reforms were "a slippery slope into communism." It is really hard to change my thinking that socialism is not communism, and I'm glad that channels like Second Thought exists that educate those of us who need to know about topics like socialism without falling into the trap of calling everything "communist"
@juliancoenen4917
@juliancoenen4917 3 жыл бұрын
And i hope you know already what communism means, be safe.
@oracle8192
@oracle8192 3 жыл бұрын
Woah woah woah what's wrong with a slippery slope into communism? Communism is great! Embrace it!
@derblaue
@derblaue 3 жыл бұрын
@@oracle8192 I think communsim is an unreachable ideal. Planned economy just doesn't work. I think that an Europe with more socalist values and less capitalism is the most realistic way to go.
@oracle8192
@oracle8192 3 жыл бұрын
@@derblaue I do hope you know that europe is capitalist
@brianfox771
@brianfox771 3 жыл бұрын
@@warpdrive9229 I think you're conflating or confusing Communism with Stalinism, Leninism and Maoism. These were not Marxist Communism by any stretch of the imagination. They were Totalitarian cults of personality with rigid planned economies. They were products of pretty warped misinterpretations of Marxist theory. Real Communism is about as libertarian as you can get: decentralized, direct democracy, no hierarchical leadership. Communities, Co-ops and communes working together cooperatively and in coordinated effort to meet the needs of individuals and societies. Far fetched now? Perhaps. But give it a few centuries when we are in real deep into being a post-scarcity society and I think it will be inevitable. And that won't be a bad thing.
@jayalbertcastigador9274
@jayalbertcastigador9274 3 жыл бұрын
Well, the comment section here is going to be interesting
@bloopbloop9687
@bloopbloop9687 3 жыл бұрын
go hide in our bunkers
@terrainvictus1210
@terrainvictus1210 3 жыл бұрын
@@bloopbloop9687 estimate arrival of unstable people at 3 hours.
@jonathanwilson5355
@jonathanwilson5355 3 жыл бұрын
Prepare the popcorn!🍿
@terrainvictus1210
@terrainvictus1210 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanwilson5355 don't forget the drinks
@velcranoxofficials9970
@velcranoxofficials9970 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanwilson5355 Everyone in the community hates capitalism, or has a keemstar-type KZbinr reacted to this and sent his fans to shit talk about this video?
@NaqrSeranvis
@NaqrSeranvis 2 жыл бұрын
TL;DR - you are not free in a system that is hellbent on making you deadlocked in a fight for survival.
@johntrauger68
@johntrauger68 2 жыл бұрын
I've identified as a Socialist since the 80's when I saw where things were going after Reagan. Things have not gotten any better since.
@maximevandeneynde7692
@maximevandeneynde7692 2 жыл бұрын
i became one after I saw a homeless man dying in the street last year. Solidarity from Belgium comrade
@valerietaylor9615
@valerietaylor9615 10 ай бұрын
Things have gotten worse. Much worse.
@user-qi6pv9jh7o
@user-qi6pv9jh7o 6 ай бұрын
The greater the wealth inequality, the more resources and ability to brainwash elites could have.
@paul2019.
@paul2019. 3 жыл бұрын
It’s like “do you want things easier and no mad poor people to bug you?” And the right says “no”
@Ben-ew9eu
@Ben-ew9eu 3 жыл бұрын
Sure. Thats why conservatives invented the social market economy. Greetings from Germany. The Land which kicked their Communists out 30years ago
@supermixiegold
@supermixiegold 2 жыл бұрын
And you ask “what? why??” And they say “cause I want money, now”
@taramaforhaikido7272
@taramaforhaikido7272 Жыл бұрын
If being bugged by people makes money they it makes money.
@thegamingnerfer1498
@thegamingnerfer1498 3 жыл бұрын
I used to be very much Authoritarian Right, but just watching videos like these showing capitalism’s downfalls and how much authoritarian leaders are bad for us I turned into a libertarian leftist, so I just want to say thanks for helping me become more reasonable and helpful to others.
@obedientconsumer5056
@obedientconsumer5056 3 жыл бұрын
That's great man. I'm proud of you.
@thegamingnerfer1498
@thegamingnerfer1498 3 жыл бұрын
Obedient Consumer Hey thanks, proud of myself too ngl 😄
@exi8550
@exi8550 3 жыл бұрын
Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman set us back 3 decades in talking about these issues, because giant companies started to fund people who spit out the corrosive ideals of capitalism and selfishness as if it is helping the common good.
@bipolarbear9917
@bipolarbear9917 2 жыл бұрын
12 Points to Reform US Democracy and the Electoral System. 1) Get rid of First Past the Post (FPP) (sometimes called plurality) voting, and introduce some form of Proportional Representation (PR) Rank Choice Voting (RCV) preferably - Mixed Member Proportional Representation (MMP(R) with Multi-Member Districts. MMP has voters select both a candidate in their local district and a party they'd like to win a majority. Everyone who wins a district gets a seat, and then additional seats are given out to ensure that parties are represented in proportion to their share of the party vote. This has a number of advantages. Unlike party list representation, people still have representatives with at least some ties to their local area. Voters get 2 votes: one for their local representative, and one for their favorite party. Mixed Member Proportional has familiar local representatives, and simple ballot. 2) Eliminate/abolish the Electoral College (Article 2, Section 1, of The Constitution). This would normally be difficult, because the Electoral College is constitutionally mandated, and abolishing it would require a constitutional amendment. Over the past 200 years more than 700 proposals have been introduced in Congress to reform or eliminate the Electoral College - without any becoming law. It requires two thirds of the House, two thirds of the Senate, and three quarters of the States to vote in favor. There is another easier way to effectively end the Electoral College without technically abolishing it. Agreement of the States to Elect the President by National Popular Vote. An organization called the ‘National Popular Vote Interstate Compact’ (NPVIC) is pushing to eliminate the Electoral College without tampering with the Constitution. Once the NPVIC has reached 270 electoral votes, the passed bills from all the states will kick in and guarantee that the candidate with the highest vote total nationwide would become the president. So far, 15 states (CA, IL, NY, CO, CT, MD, MA, NJ, NM, OR, WA, DE, HI, RI, VT) and the District of Columbia (Total = 196 electoral votes) have committed to the cause. The bill has also passed at least one chamber in 9 additional states with 88 more electoral votes (AR, AZ, ME, MI, MN, NC, NV, OK, VA). So, we need 74 more electoral votes to eliminate the unfair influence of the Electoral College. A total of 3,408 state legislators from all 50 states have endorsed it. www.nationalpopularvote.com/written-explanation *American citizens need to become politically active to make this happen before the 2024 election. 3) Go back to reliable ‘hand marked pen and paper’ ballots publicly counted and scrutinized. Design simple to understand paper ballots, Standardize the voting system nationally across all states, and do NOT use ‘Black Box’ electronic voting machines (EVMs) or ballot marking devices (BMDs), because any electronic devices are too easily hacked or manipulated to rig voting figures even if using ‘block-chain’ technology. Cyber-attacks can also be undetectable. www.coindesk.com/mit-paper-rejects-blockchain-based-voting-systems-elections Paper ballots are more reliable and can be recounted if necessary. Democracy is too important to allow the possibility for cheating. 4) Install an independent Election Management Body (EMB) to be responsible for the polling, conducting and tabulating of votes in elections and referenda, and the registration of political parties, oversight of campaign finance, design of the ballot papers, drawing of electoral boundaries, resolution of electoral disputes, civic and voter education and media monitoring for the safeguarding the legitimacy of democratic institutions and the peaceful transitions of power. They need to ensure all aspects of any electoral contest meets global norms and follows the fundamental guiding principles of elections, including independence, impartiality, integrity, transparency, efficiency, professionalism and service-mindedness, that perform in the best interest of the voters. 5) Shorten the Election Campaigns to 4-8 weeks maximum (like most other advanced democracies. This also helps to get money out of politics). Ridiculously long campaigns (18mths) are a waste of money, resources and time; time that should be spent governing the country and providing social programs for citizens needs, not campaigning for re-election. 6) Voting Days to be held on the weekend (not Tuesday), and possibly in conjunction with Veteran’s Day Holiday. (Make it easier for all citizens to be able to vote). 7) Ban voter suppression, upgrade the Voting Rights Act, and introduce a 28th Amendment for the right of every citizen 18 years old and over the right to vote, or introduce mandatory voting (every eligible citizen votes - $50 fine if you don't vote) Australia has mandatory voting and because of this 95% voter turnout. By contrast in the US millions of voters are purged from voter rolls, and at least 40% of provisional ballots are thrown in the trash can and not counted. It’s just another method of rigging the electoral system. 8) Ban gerrymandering of districts to favor one political party. Independent commission should draw district lines, not partisan political parties. Voters should pick their politicians, NOT politicians their voters. 9) *Consider a Unicameral Congress (only House of Representatives needed to pass Bills. There's no need for the Senate to pass Bills, so situations like McConnell and the filibuster holding up important legislation cannot happen). *(NZ is an advanced democracy and has a Unicameral Parliament which works very efficiently). *(a Unicameral System is also one step closer to a direct democracy of all the common people). Unicameral System: www.investopedia.com/terms/u/unicameral-system.asp Bicameral System: www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bicameral-system.asp (*The majority of international governments use the unicameral system-with a roughly 60/40 split between unicameral and bicameral.) The only other option other than a unicameral system, is to make it mandatory for Bills passed in the House MUST be voted on immediately in the Senate. Mitch McConnell has sat on hundreds of Bills effectively blocking them from passing. 10) Campaign finance reform (donations only via private citizens with strict donation limits, ban corporate funding and influence). 11) Eliminate the need for political party registration (there’s no need to be affiliated to any political party, and it only encourages gerrymandering). No one should be loyal to just one political party. Force political parties to concentrate on policy to attract your vote. 12) Term limits on all politicians (Congressman and Senators) and judges (in particular Supreme Court justices - no lifetime appointments).
@racheldobbs2028
@racheldobbs2028 3 жыл бұрын
As a devout Catholic, I feel that socialism is closer to my beliefs than any other system which is why I'm a socialist as well. It's a system that wants equality for all and recognizes that everyone is important and that we all must work together to make society work. We need it more than ever
@americancommunist6076
@americancommunist6076 3 жыл бұрын
You are an amazing person, I truly mean it.
@racheldobbs2028
@racheldobbs2028 3 жыл бұрын
@@americancommunist6076 thank you 😀
@Apethgrader
@Apethgrader 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesgudgeon453 So is forced taxation and not paying your bills.
@thomasweitbrecht8105
@thomasweitbrecht8105 3 жыл бұрын
capitalism also recognizes that everyone is important and that we must all work together
@thomasweitbrecht8105
@thomasweitbrecht8105 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasmaughan4798 its not because you don't own the means of production that you are not important, plus, if the means of production go to the workers there will not be any incentive for entrepreurs to create new buisness or innovate
@markfranzen5424
@markfranzen5424 3 жыл бұрын
I wasn't ready to see Michael Brooks this early..... I miss him so much..
@SecondThought
@SecondThought 3 жыл бұрын
He was an amazing person.
@Gigika313
@Gigika313 3 жыл бұрын
Rip brooks
@David83151
@David83151 3 жыл бұрын
I was laughing a few seconds earlier because of the liberals he showed on screen, but once Brooks showed up I got teary eyed right away. ❤️ Rest in Power.
@tylerrice7145
@tylerrice7145 3 жыл бұрын
I completely owe Michael Brooks to introducing me to Richard Wolff who then truly helped shape my views. RIP Brooks
@andthengodpooped
@andthengodpooped 3 жыл бұрын
@@SecondThought thank you for the work you’re doing. Keep it up. Rest in power Michael.
@unclejoe1917
@unclejoe1917 3 жыл бұрын
*Jeff Foxworthy voice* If you have ever pulled out of your driveway and used a paved road to arrive to your destination...you might be a socialist. If you have ever had a total stranger show up in a big truck and run into your burning house to save a loved one...you might be a socialist.
@nrkapa
@nrkapa 2 жыл бұрын
We need more videos like this to expand class consciousness and socialism so that one day the tyrants get down from their thrones! Great video as always
@DeathIsLethal
@DeathIsLethal 3 жыл бұрын
*teleports behind you* "Stop struggling, you're already a socialist" *"NANI?"*
@DeathIsLethal
@DeathIsLethal 3 жыл бұрын
@Exploding Builds thanks, I think this is the original meme I pulled it from, ahseeit.com/?qa=22744/coronavirus-sent-successfully-humanity-was-a-mistake-meme
@brentkn
@brentkn 3 жыл бұрын
Not many children out there will say "Screw them, they are on their own."
@Water_meter_enthusiast
@Water_meter_enthusiast 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing personnel, kid.
@johnrollex680
@johnrollex680 3 жыл бұрын
You know that it's perfectly legal to set up a worker owned co-op. They just tend to get out competed by other kinds of businesses. how can you simultaneously say that corporations are bad at running their businesses and that the entire motivation of our system is to make corporate profits? Doesn't that strike you as slightly internally contradictory?
@DeathIsLethal
@DeathIsLethal 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnrollex680 Bro, go debate someone else. I didn't even watch the video lol, I just clicked on it so I could make this joke. Go away, dude.
@philanderer23
@philanderer23 3 жыл бұрын
making a video on socialism that's sponsored by the bezos owned audible is just so funny to me, great video though
@t.3465
@t.3465 3 жыл бұрын
@@transon6655 but they surely don't need to rely on "capitalist pigs" for that... do they? lol
@Xavier-kq9hp
@Xavier-kq9hp 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like its even funnier that the company agreed to sponsor him. As lenin once said “the capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them”
@WoodChoppa911
@WoodChoppa911 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, he could've had another deal with a smaller company
@Martlns
@Martlns 3 жыл бұрын
@@t.3465 That's a dumb way to look at it. Nobody really wants to go all-in on socialism, most countries just adopt socialist programs(as has USA actually) to give a better quality of life.
@t.3465
@t.3465 3 жыл бұрын
@Jasper Smith lol
@FirstRisingSouI
@FirstRisingSouI 3 жыл бұрын
This is what I was brought up to believe. And I was told it was called capitalism.
@mards2479
@mards2479 Жыл бұрын
4:45 I never expect Baltimore to be used for stock footage
@QuestionEverythingButWHY
@QuestionEverythingButWHY 3 жыл бұрын
“In a country well governed, poverty is something to be ashamed of. In a country badly governed, wealth is something to be ashamed of.” ― Confucius
@ioana26bc
@ioana26bc 3 жыл бұрын
The "potluck analogy" was very clever on your part, commendations, great vid too!❤ (You also know what's ironic, the fact that 6 year olds have better mortality than executive CEO`s.)
@ioana26bc
@ioana26bc 3 жыл бұрын
@Justin B😂😂
@ConnorJara
@ConnorJara 2 жыл бұрын
Most potlucks ibe been to is just various bags of junk food, marshmellows and cheap soda XD. I think this is a pretty apt analogy for socialism, he never brings up the inherent selfishness the common person is capable of. Socialism is practically a utopia the way he describes it. But we for sure do need to change our prison, education, amd healthcare system. The fact is no system will be perfect, capitalism harness humanities inherent greed and competitiveness. Not so certain socialism will curb these behaviors, only exacerbate them in the long run.
@ioangiurge959
@ioangiurge959 Жыл бұрын
The potluck analogy is pretty clever but also shows the problem for exemple imagine that instead of everyone bringing something different everyone just brings doritos so no diversity
@popoffs5273
@popoffs5273 Жыл бұрын
So, I am a conservative, but there is some good points and views I have never seen before. I am a Christian and I am realizing that conservatives and Republicans do not really care about the core values of the Bible either, like helping the poor, and giving according to ability and receiving according to your needs, as was in The early church. I think I'm coming over to the other side.
@Mullkaw
@Mullkaw Жыл бұрын
If you haven't already seen it, this channel has a video called "How Conservatives Co-Opted Christianity" wherein he explains how the right has completely rewritten christianity as it pertains to politics, and this has been happening over just the past 40 years or so. A very good watch.
@mimori8
@mimori8 2 жыл бұрын
I love seeing a relatively high dislike rate. That means there are a lot of people that clicked this video that didn't agree coming in. Makes it less into a circlejerk and more into a productive way to change people's minds.
@sponko
@sponko 3 жыл бұрын
my grandmother needs half a million dollars in medication. my mother still doesn’t believe in medicare for all. her only defense is “it’s drives innovation”
@alexparker4244
@alexparker4244 3 жыл бұрын
Socratic her; next time it comes up ask "which/what innovation?" and "how would M4A stop that?" if possible
@luc6284
@luc6284 3 жыл бұрын
Innovation of useless "new" drugs that are barely different from the previous ones only to make a lot of money from that overpriced new drug that is :)
@sponko
@sponko 3 жыл бұрын
@@luc6284 exactly 💯
@nibbletrinnal2289
@nibbletrinnal2289 3 жыл бұрын
lmao just bring up times before capitalism where we somehow still advanced technologically despite having next to no economy
@denniswinters3096
@denniswinters3096 3 жыл бұрын
I think one of the key stumbling blocks for people who have a sort of phobia about socialism is the assumption that socialism would diminish their freedom to choose. The idea that there would only be one make of car available, one brand of tooth-paste, one.... well, you get the idea. People like to have the freedom to choose what they buy. If you could convince them that they would still have that freedom under socialism you'd be able to convert a lot more people.
@Predatorsnightmare
@Predatorsnightmare 2 жыл бұрын
Of course you will still have the freedom but companies won’t have the motivation. There will be no reason to invest millions in start up companies and power will be in the hands of fewer people while we live like peasants but have free health care
@wren_.
@wren_. Жыл бұрын
maybe we talk about how many small businesses it promotes? because with the big monopolies gone, that should leave room for way more small businesses, right?
@leealexander3507
@leealexander3507 3 жыл бұрын
For awhile in the 1960s I lived in a commune where we all worked together to grow and cook food. We also sewed clothing and the other things we needed. We sold some of what we grew and sewed along with our art and crafts in order to buy anything we couldn't produce ourselves. If we had wanted to we could have gotten together to buy a factory rather than land and worked together that way. That, in a nutshell, is a socialist community. It's not a vow of poverty and it doesn't mean giving the fruits of your labor to your less productive neighbor. It does mean working together toward a common goal and helping make sure every member of the community gets what they need. If a member is in trouble we all help out. If you get a new member everyone gets together to build another house with each member contributing whatever skills they have.
@QBert904
@QBert904 3 жыл бұрын
“But what they all have in common is a belief in equality, dignity, and the value of human life; and that’s something we should all agree upon.” I can’t tell you how many conversations I’ve had with evangelical conservatives that indicated, quite clearly, that they don’t agree on the value of ALL human life.
@travisbrunner2922
@travisbrunner2922 3 жыл бұрын
Do you respect the lives of the unborn? Oh yeah, they're "just a clump of cells." Your hypocrisy is disgusting...
@travisbrunner2922
@travisbrunner2922 3 жыл бұрын
@Gauthama Siddharth My life > your life. See what I did there? You people really make me sick.
@hithere5553
@hithere5553 3 жыл бұрын
@@travisbrunner2922 the mother’s autonomy>the fetuses right to come to term. It doesn’t matter if the clump of cells is a baby or not, the mother’s right to control her own body supersedes the fetuses right to life, full stop. Would you let someone remove one of your kidneys to save a person’s life against your will? No? Then you have no right to refuse the right of bodily autonomy to any woman.
@rudolph2937
@rudolph2937 3 жыл бұрын
@@travisbrunner2922 "the lives of the unborn" is an oxymoron
@baileymiller1644
@baileymiller1644 3 жыл бұрын
@@hithere5553 thats like saying i have a right to kill you because my life is more important than someone else’s, unless you’re making the argument that a fetus isn’t living, your argument makes no sense. Also 99% of cases are going to be people who willingly had sex knowing there is a possibility of conception. Most cases of abortion are straight murder of a human life and if you want that legalized that fine but I hate that people try and say that a fetus isn’t alive. You get charged with double murder if you kill a pregnant woman; why is it different if its the mother doing the killing. I feel like this kind of talk is extremely selfish of the individual and is barbaric.
@sersnuggles7697
@sersnuggles7697 3 жыл бұрын
me: Dad I'm a socialist My south Korean Dad: Haisshhh! (hits me with bamboo stick)
@PrayIsHere
@PrayIsHere 3 жыл бұрын
South Korea is inherently socialist though
@IndrasChildDeepAsleep
@IndrasChildDeepAsleep 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah anti-socialist propaganda... Fun
@sersnuggles7697
@sersnuggles7697 3 жыл бұрын
@PCMASTERACE my dad is korean tho my mom is Chinese sooo... (clashing in household noises)
@whenyoupulloutyourdickands4023
@whenyoupulloutyourdickands4023 3 жыл бұрын
@@liquidminds or South Koreans just have common sense. Look how quickly Vietnam adopted capitalist systems into their economic model after driving out all *DE EVUL CAPITALIST AMERICANS* Nothing says "not-capitalist" like having McDonald's in every city amirite?
@christopherbettridge5983
@christopherbettridge5983 Жыл бұрын
I've been trying to tell people this same message... I'm certainly no dullard, but here in the West it's a real uphill struggle. We're with you, I'll keep sharing the message.
@MezmerKaiser725
@MezmerKaiser725 6 ай бұрын
I realized I was already a socialist when I started learning about car dependency and how walkable cities are better. Turns out we became car dependent because of capitalist greed. Also great explanation with the potluck analogy
@jesavius
@jesavius 3 жыл бұрын
I love how this KZbin channel is a spoon-feeding of Marxist and Hegelian theory in a quick, convincing, and digestible manner. Bravo, you've earned a Patron on your Patreon.
@Berlinbower
@Berlinbower 2 жыл бұрын
super easy to digest and understand to. i like it
@JackRabbit9181996
@JackRabbit9181996 3 жыл бұрын
Crap, I guess this video isn't for me, I already know I'm a socialist *shrugs*
@SecondThought
@SecondThought 3 жыл бұрын
Send it to your on-the-fence friends!
@pharag4886
@pharag4886 3 жыл бұрын
It's a small group of us. But our logic is winning minds over.
@JackRabbit9181996
@JackRabbit9181996 3 жыл бұрын
@@SecondThought of course, we must distribute the means of education, before we can redustribute the wealth!
@JackRabbit9181996
@JackRabbit9181996 3 жыл бұрын
@@pharag4886 heck yeah! If people aren't ppenly hostile to our ideas, it's usually pretty easy to get them on board. Easier still with concise, convenient video essays available on the subject (such as this one)
@oracle8192
@oracle8192 3 жыл бұрын
@@JackRabbit9181996 well, we shouldn't be out here redistributing wealth. As a socialist, I'm opposed to that since it's the product of the workers labor. Rather, we believe in redistribution and working class siezure of the means of production. Which is different then wealth
@LeonardoSilva-zq7wf
@LeonardoSilva-zq7wf Жыл бұрын
Fortunately It's much closer to that In Europe than in the US... But the change is possible! With people like you over there, explaining things so clearly, maybe the Americans can start listening, learning, changing, little by little... When the true meaning of the word "social" gets into our minds, the hole society changes, the inequality lowers and violence and crime go down with it , tolerance and benevolence becomes natural behavior. because you're safe and protected by your government, because you have access to education, health care, etc., the desire and obsession of being the richest or the most powerful is no longer the most important thing in your life, so: capitalist competitiveness and subsequent degradation of working conditions, human dignity and environmental disrespect are not welcome nor appreciated. You're definitely in the right path! Keep up the good work man! Kind regards for Portugal
@austinpage9463
@austinpage9463 Жыл бұрын
I think this was the video that radicalized me from a hardcore supporter of capitalism into a die hard socialist now. All it took was a few KZbin videos to completely change my outlook on the economy and the world
@withershins
@withershins 3 жыл бұрын
Me being one that understands things well but cannot communicate my understandings to others in a debate, really appreciates your video essays. Not only do I agree with you, but I use your videos to help describe to others how I understand things. Thank you and keep up the great work!
@shirleysmith1246
@shirleysmith1246 3 жыл бұрын
I've struggled with this for a long time and it's quite frustrating when you can't get your formal thoughts across to people arguing against you. I'm relieved to see that I'm not the only one. I keep searching for classes that can help me articulate better, but I agree with you that these videos are the next best thing. I'm grateful to you for expressing this and grateful to Second Thought for bringing me here.
@obedientconsumer5056
@obedientconsumer5056 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I not only feel this is the way to do things, but that it's vital for the future of our society. We can never truly come together and work towards a better world for all if we continue to put profits before people.
@shirleysmith1246
@shirleysmith1246 3 жыл бұрын
@@obedientconsumer5056 Exactly what I've been saying, thank you!
@ashleyberkowitz8772
@ashleyberkowitz8772 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a socialist and not afraid to admit it
@cesc9414
@cesc9414 2 жыл бұрын
this video is basically a classic corporation infomercial but for socialism and I love the ironic twist
@iwersonsch5131
@iwersonsch5131 2 жыл бұрын
Alright I got some questions. 1. Why do you think that the points you made imply a rejection of Germany's social market economy, which is a market economy? 2. How does your idea of socialism work, e.g. how is it determined what a worker earns and can afford? E.g. if my workplace provides me with tools and wood and I make a chair, who owns that chair and how do I earn money from it? Asking because your idea of socialism sounds vastly different from the economies of the soviet block, including eastern Germany back in the day. 3. What laws and/or policies would have to be put in place in order for your idea of socialism to make sense for the individual company leader? (Or would company leaders no longer exist?) That is, assuming you could rewrite the economy laws of your country in a single day and explain them successfully to everyone, what would they look like? 4. How would you go about implementing those laws?
@Alex-nh6sq
@Alex-nh6sq 3 жыл бұрын
Just a personal story to all those, that say you can’t run a company or store like that. When I started out as a ”manager“ for a small electronics store from a bigger chain ( We had 6 sections with one person each) I called them together and explained that it’s my first store and I would need their help managing it. So we sat together and discussed changes from the way it was ran before: We cut the extra pay, that dependent on value sold and increased the wages of everybody flat. (Later we took that money and decided to use it for medical costs, when someone needed surgery or couldn’t afford a treatment because corporate forced all to work just below full time) Next we agreed on each being able to run their departments as they want. No minimum sales or upselling. My job was it to get everybody what they needed to run their area as good as possible. If there was trouble between them I had to moderate and I took care of planing stuff etc. In the first two month, profits went down but then they started to skyrocket. When I asked customers why they decided to buy at our place they told me that it’s because they don’t feel exploited or got just what they wanted. After a few month I hired an additional person to drive to older people and help them with their problems at home or with installing things like a TV. Now almost the entire town buys their electronics at our store and we are one of the most lucrative stores, compared to size and workforce.
@cesarbecerra1259
@cesarbecerra1259 3 жыл бұрын
Nice😏
@LimeyLassen
@LimeyLassen 3 жыл бұрын
Based
@Joee1530
@Joee1530 3 жыл бұрын
Based and socialismpilled
@darkregions
@darkregions 3 жыл бұрын
That's how one should charter the environment they're in... with a moral compass!
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