You Should Check Out Metaphor: ReFantazio (Early Impressions)

[@Nyarly]

Check out Atlus's newest game from the creators of the Persona series; Metaphor: ReFantazio here: gsght.com/c/qz7o2k Try the demo here: gsght.com/c/s71ft5

[@sbfh014]

> hexagonal upgrade trees Combination attacks Close enough, welcome back Digital Devil Saga

[@Lonewulf321]

Digital Devil Saga meets Etrian Odyssey

[@maquinlol9673]

Digital Devil Saga meets Persona 3

[@matsukuia7140]

Thought the exact same first starting the game

[@jasonblundelldobebussing]

Ain't no way they made Persona 7 before Persona 6 that came out before GTA6

[@JuliaSin]

I know right? Lol

[@amirgarcia547]

This game basically combines the strategy of SMT with the social elements of Persona, the customization and freedom of what’s basically a JRPG job system with some of the most interesting and complex worldbuilding I’ve seen in an JRPG. Hashino and co. definitely cooked hard on this game ever since P5’s release, and despite only just getting the 4th party member, I’m more than looking forward to what the rest of the game has to offer.

[@nr2676]

Metaphor: Persona (Social Sim, art style, similar writing) + SMT (Press Turn battle system, and many QoL changes from other Megami Tensei games like Digital Devil Saga or Devil Summoner) + Etrian Odysey (Job System, subclases, formations, fantasy setting)

[@kerijizo]

They really didn't joke around when they say it's their 35 years celebration of atlus games.there's a ton of Easter egg in this game.If you played etrian odyssey games..when you arrive at the 4th city and it's labyrinth you're in for a treat. If persona q give persona to EO worlds, metaphor is like the opposite. The final form of seeker job,dancer, and summoner it's literally the same name as their game come from lol. And many other things like item name etc2.. Man atlus just release banger after banger this year.

[@illusive-mike]

Not only does the Archetype system stop you from loading up on cheesy skills by limiting inheritance, it also stops you from abusing affinities like in SMT, leading to the best incarnation of Press Turn yet. Oftentimes you're forced to consider going into big fights with relevant weaknesses, and having your own mass-hitting skills locked to Synthesis while the opponents just use them normally further tilts the turn economy away from the player. Meanwhile the number of inheritance slots is decided by your bond with the Archetype's origin, meaning that the Followers are more important than the equivalent systems have ever been in Persona despite not quite having the diverse effects they do in P5. Not really getting the praise for the real-time portion of the combat though. Not only does it add a frankly needless complication on top of all the other systems, but the combination of Mage and auto-clearing weak enemies introduces a probably-unintended MP grind loop that's all the more "attractive" due to the tight schedule, allowing one-day clears and subverting the MP management aspect of the formula. Not that Persona itself was ever truly SP-cheese-free, but there was always a chance that this would be the first time. P5, SMT V, and Soul Hackers 2 all had encounter systems that made sense for them and not the other games from that list, but I can't say the same for Metaphor.

[@nickbrown5440]

I am about 20 hours in and I was kind eh on it at first. But went to bed came back the next day, everything clicked and I’m really loving it.

[@GoProGamer447]

Glad to see people enjoying this game, sadly I prefer mainline Smt games over persona like games from Atlus. The game looks really good too honestly happy everyone is having fun.

[@NightFire2100]

​​@@GoProGamer447 I enjoy the combat of SMT more than Persona. I find that Metaphor has the crunchy combat of SMT while also having the heart of Persona. Not saying play this game now or even soon, wait for a sale if need be, but I would definitely recommend playing if you are a fan of any of the branches of the SMT series.

[@amirgarcia547]

@@GoProGamer447I’d honestly still largely reccomend this game since it’s only similar to Persona in having both time management and social elements that grant you boosts to the gameplay. Otherwise it feels a lot closer to a traditional SMT game in terms of both gameplay and tone, just in a European fantasy setting rather than modern day Tokyo.

[@SENATORPAIN1]

Although i am rather enjoying this game the horrible textures and just general lack of graphical fidelity is really taking me out of it at times.

[@PregnantAdamSandler]

I haven't finished the game yet and in terms of writing I am not sure which one I prefer... but I would rather have Metaphor 2 than Persona 6. I genuinely prefer the setting conceits of Metaphor being in a fantasy land where your character doesn't have to go to school over Persona's. Edit: also all the party members being adults make the character interactions a bit funnier.

[@vivilover9409]

Shorter calendar, less filler boring social links for the sake of filling out time and the 20ish arcana, more combat and dungeons, better character writing, scenes with humor that are actually funny, themes and story that works in the games favor instead of being used as a cool surface level idea that isn't explored or delivered on. This game cuts all the shit persona does wrong

[@Foogi9000]

​@@vivilover9409 Agreed, i also personally think the Archetype System is superior to the Systems in Persona.

[@zephshoir]

Worth mentioning that Atlus JUST patched in anti-aliasing!

[@haisex3]

Not on consoles tho lmao

[@LordWallace]

Oh that's nice.....as I just beat the game 😅 time for regicide mode I guess? It really was visually distracting though

[@Octav2000]

Oh shit really!?

[@Foogi9000]

​@@LordWallace I've only been able to play the Demo (cause i'm broke). How is Regicide difficulty compared to Hard mode? Hard feels like what Normal mode should be imo so i'm curious about how different it is.

[@fishsticks6611]

​@@Foogi9000I just started regicide mode. Enemy scaling, harder stagger bar, no rewinds, and enemies have 1 additional turn(like hard mode). That's the few things I've noticed 1 hour in, there's maybe more idk. You mandatory get to keep your heroic virtues, reeve, magla, archetype exp, and inventory.

[@notwho5551]

A real thing that helps with grinding is that some archetypes grant different benefits for defeating weaker enemies, merchent would grant you fix money while wizard grants you back mp, choosing your protagonists archatype can lead to you been able to grind off weaker enemies easier as they do respawn over time, and most dungeons enemies can be reset.

[@tronixchl2004]

Technically DDS 1 with Jobs instead of a karma tree, with Persona mechanics? Literally THE game made just for me

[@Lonewulf321]

Don’t forget EO dungeons

[@iransilva5857]

@@Lonewulf321 "EO dungeons"

[@Lonewulf321]

@@iransilva5857 have you played the 4th main dungeon ?

[@iransilva5857]

@@Lonewulf321 no,i'm doing the 2nd right now, but all the dungeons have been trash right now

[@Lonewulf321]

@@iransilva5857 come back when you finish it

[@solomani5959]

As someone who does not like Persona but does like SMT I am REALLY enjoying this one (12 hours in as well). Very good. The UI is chef’s kiss.

[@revelationflap5887]

Imo, Metaphor is more like Persona than SMT, with mechanics like bonds, raising up your characters values like Tolerance, Wisdom, Fantasy etc. and most of all the calender system with time limits for dungeons, side quest...

[@nr2676]

@@revelationflap5887 Gameplay wise is more like SMT and Etrian Odyssey, the only one thing from Persona it's similar wiriting, Social Sim and Calendaar, rest is SMT mixed with Job System from Etrian Odyssey.

[@zeroexe592]

Dont forget digital devil saga. The archetype and akademeia system reminds me of DDS's mantra system .

[@revelationflap5887]

@@nr2676 never played Etrian Odyssey. But ok, Metaphor seems like a mix of every Atlus franchise.

[@nr2676]

@@revelationflap5887 Yes it is mix of those 3 franchises.

[@RulerX.]

I’m 33 hours in and I am loving this game. The story, the atmosphere, and the character are amazing. While the gameplay has similar play style as an SMT game, it is different enough to make this its own play style.

[@patron7906]

The subtle pivots and changes really do make a difference. I did not know how much more I was going to prefer a "job" system to Demon fusing until I witnessed it firsthand w/ the gameplay. I appreciate that social links (sorry "bonds") do not require a cheat sheet. The twist on the press/turn mechanics just work. The departure from a high school setting (more Persona than SMT) is long overdue. All those other games were great, but Metaphor just seems to hit every note - at least 25 hours into it.

[@RulerX.]

I completely agree!!! the job system was such a great change and the change in direction for the story was a great thing. And the fact that the story is so captivating makes this game so amazing.

[@sara_zid]

Bro just you wait this games story gets insane , can't wait for you to finish it

[@jasonblundelldobebussing]

They are chanting in Esperanto? Interesting...

[@nuncaooga]

Yes, the in universe language is esperanto.

[@Foogi9000]

It is, which makes sense as a core theme is unity and overcoming tribalism.

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

Should've just sung in English. English is the most spoken language in the world. Basically no one speaks Esperanto. lol

[@EinFelsbrocken]

​@@ThwipThwipBoom Its almost like its trying to be a metaphor for a different version of our reality or something like that 🤔

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

@@EinFelsbrocken A shit metaphor, sure.

[@Forever_Zero]

I'm really intrigued about the story, I hope they do something interesting with the whole "the real world is fantasy now" and is not just played as social commentary/allegory

[@jordansouthwell4271]

The leniency thing seems true at the start but is definitely untrue, you can max all social stats and all bonds with entire weeks of in-game time left spare without maximizing efficiency every single day. And I know that bc I did it

[@spectrumbots4268]

I just played the demo on Friday and this afternoon and I was on hook! I’m happy to see Atlus make a new IP. Definitely planning on getting the full game when I can!

[@SevoraLF]

I’m around halfway through (if I had to guess based off the world map) and this game is superb. If it keeps up this quality it will be one of if not my top game of all time and my favorite Atlus game.

[@itacheQ8]

this game is great, the only thing i hate is that there is no punishment for dying, if u lose u just rewind 3 seconds before the engaging the enemy (even on hard mode) which takes a lot of tension in the game because i know if i die i will lose nothing.

[@vileBrenman]

Huh? You can't rewind if you die you can only rewind to the beginning of the fight on your turn if you die you still have to reload your save

[@itacheQ8]

@@vileBrenman yes correct and usually the save is 3 second before engaging the enemy like i said

[@DJ-uu3pz]

Fair point, I think the ultra hard mode for new game plus disables this but not 100%. I kinda feel like it evens the playing field though because you can't save anytime and prep is more important in this game than almost any other. To the first point, finding weakness is the difference between sweeping and getting swept (especially since repels cost full press turns). If you make the mistake of not looking up an enemy weakness (which you.shouldnt have to do) its back to the very beginning. That's not fun, that's tedium in an already massive game. Course you can then allow saving anywhere instead of this system, but then you effectively have the same system, just slightly more inconvenient. Plus, again, prep is so important for bigger fights anyway. At least 3 times (I'm half way through) it's been better to actually just reload and come back with a better archetype than tough it out on rewind praying to get lucky.

[@M4urMoM]

So far I'm loving this game! The wait was soooo worth it

[@chrislee5268]

This is the kind of fantasy rpg that Final Fantasy has failed to be for a decade and counting. I'm so happy.

[@Foogi9000]

One feature that i think every JRPG needs baked in after playing this and FF16 is a Lore Menu that can easily be accessed anytime. ATL and the Memorandum are godsends. Lot of JRPGs will introduce 5 new terms and concepts in one paragraph and just expect you to remember that shit.

[@Hitman-sn2by]

Nah , not everyone like turn based game lol , this game sold 1million across all platform , FF16 sold 3m in 4 days on ps5 alone lol

[@Foogi9000]

@@Hitman-sn2by ☝️🤓

[@DanielFlores-fv3vr]

Yes, I will check it out. Thank you.

[@pepepalerm5723]

I have the game I’m loving it so far I don’t have a 4th member yet but the characters are amazing so is the story and love the world this game was worth the wait Atlus did an amazing job

[@patron7906]

Many of the villains of the game are the highlight. When you meet the dastard Heismay, your stomach will turn.

[@Bahamut998]

As a guy who never played Persona games and is a fan of Final Fantasy games, This game is good, but it kicks my butt in terms of difficulty, and I'm only on normal. It's way harder than any Final Fantasy game in terms of how it sets difficulty. You can get randomly ambushed/hit by an enemy in a dungeon and they'll kill your party. And even just the first dungeon was tough, which is weird for a first dungeon.

[@DuskoftheTwilight]

Regarding the timing of the release, there was an interview where a developer said they weren't considering any real world events that would be going on around release.

[@InfiniteOnyx]

I like Gallica basically telling you that, based on the deadline you don’t have extra time to do other stuff

[@gachafiedstreams]

Even though ive finished the game, nyarly's review is out, so my opinion can be formed!

[@smtmonke]

Did the Galuppuros (Minotaur) fight on hard at lvl 15, I managed to get an unscathed bonus on him by landing forget on him with Skullcracker. Since I had two mages in my party, and a brawler, I essentially was bursting him down with Blizza and phys skills and got two full rounds on my side to do so because of the frenzy mechanic.

[@Foogi9000]

Isn't it specifically mentioned that bringing a Mage or Healer makes him and those Gobbies go berserk though?

[@smtmonke]

@@Foogi9000 Yep, but it's a good thing with the Minotaur in particular (calling it what it is), since that first turn he gets is him "frenzying" and then using charge. He's also weak to ice, so Blizza with your MC (if you build for magic) ends up doing around 400 to 500 damage easy without buffs. It also means he won't spam physical skills constantly, he'll just Frenzy > Charge, and Frenzy again on his next turn. As long as he doesn't crit, it means he isn't getting several hits in to knock out your party members. It's also probably the safest way to set up the Forget ailment with Skullcracker, since the Minotaur will waste turns trying to use skills; meaning you won't ever have to worry about even taking a hit. As for the normal goblin encounters, just don't let them get the jump on you and it shouldn't be too horrific. Ambushing is a necessity at the 10 to 13 level range, and even at 15 you still have enemies in that particular dungeon who can give you hell.

[@Foogi9000]

@@smtmonke Yeah i went in at lvl 10 and it was *rough.*

[@callmegekkouga]

I'm 40 hours in and this game is a lot of fun. The story is really engaging and combat feels awesome.

[@rjproduction486]

I will not be surprise if one of the plot twist of this game is the MC got isekai and he is originally from the real world.

[@Tamashiki]

I do want to say the auto battle in this game is actually smart at least smarter than me it considers a lot of variables

[@Crow150]

Just completed the game IT IS THE BEST ATLAS GAME IVE EVER PLAYED

[@gasttros]

Game is awesome, dont let it pass your radar people! TIP: All Luck build is viable, but not late game its gonna be a nightmare if you dont know what you re doing, go STR if you want a smooth ride unlike me

[@Lakefront_Khan]

I'm wondering how it works in PS4 though.

[@kaimcdragonfist4803]

I'm on the final dungeon. This game is incredible. My GotY unless there's some freak upset between now and December, which the only game that might do that is Brothership. Might. Probably won't.

[@belmemo]

Im wondering if Atlus is going to do a rerelease like they did on persona 5 and smt v, i really want to play it but before purchasing it day 1, it hited me hard, what if they do a rerelease with more content and adjustments?, so im wondering if i should go for it or just wait

[@angelcastro3790]

I have fucking 70 hours and fighting the final boss, can't wait NG+ for plat

[@ultima1033]

Gonna need a few bucks and some ample space on my Ps5 first. But absolutely have my eyes on it

[@SirAwesomeJay]

Being able to restart any battle with a single push of a button is a godsend. Especially on boss fights, or when your stragety fails.

[@derekosgood3230]

Exactly! Sometimes, you just need to reset and try a new strategy. I love that aspect of this game.

[@Foogi9000]

I don't like it, it kills a lot of the tension if i'm losing and i can just reset the fight and gain all my mp and items back. Especially if i'm on Hard, make that into a resource i need to manage. That would add so much more depth to combat, if you had only 3 or 5 resets it would turn into an extra more advanced part of the combat system where you need to be more tactical and frugal with it. At least a cooldown if you're on the Hard and Regicide difficulties. There exists such a thing as too much QoL where it is more detrimental than helpful. Also i went back and refused help in that first boss cause i wanted to see what would happen and each fucking turn it would ask me if i wanted to nullify that mechanic and idk that really upset me. Cause it showed that my choice was hollow and that they didn't trust me to deal with such an easy mechanic on literally Hard Mode.

[@derekosgood3230]

@@Foogi9000 So don't use it. It's optional lol

[@SirAwesomeJay]

@Foogi9000 I understand where you're coming from, but I feel like your idea will prolong the inevitable. Let's say the battle reset is a limited resource, well when it runs out we'll just quit the game and restart it. All boss fights have a save point so we'll start the battle again with full resources and then the cycle repeats. How is that different than the current mechanic?

[@EinFelsbrocken]

​@@Foogi9000 Are you playing on hard? Have fun finding out exact resistances then without the reset... just more time lost.

[@KyngD469]

Digital Persona Journey

[@ProbablyEmo]

Just finished the game after about 70 hours and it’s easily top 3 greatest Atlus games of all time and has the best story hands down

[@jasonblundelldobebussing]

No way they are executing квадроберов in public 😢

[@aleatorio._]

i never buy games on their release month but refantazio is making this very difficult, this game looks like peak

[@NightFire2100]

Ya might have underplayed the difficulty...I had to scale down to normal when going into the giant worm den because I just kept getting thrashed... been having a great time with the game and it's been a challenge but not so frustrating now 😅

[@xavierhernandez5614]

This is so refreshing to play. the SMT/ Persona fatigue is so real.

[@denzelromero4796]

Can’t wait for the mod that gets rid of the weather system taking away press turns . The exp rewards aren’t that much better and just make the combat worse and limiting . The game’s difficulty is so all over the place that it feels bipolar. There is a amazing game here but it would fun if it didnt have a calendar system fucking with the pacing .

[@FatalKitsune]

I think probably my least favorite part of this game is not being able to switch archetypes in battle, because if you go in with the wrong setup you're either going to get flattened or the fight is going to be an absolute slog. It forces you to retreat or let the enemy kill you so you can start again.

[@patron7906]

That might trivialize combats, though.

[@Cross-chan]

It's not so bad when you get access to being able to switch party members in and out of combat

[@vivilover9409]

​@@Cross-chanI think a compromise could've been switching once in battle but being able to switch and change freely with every party member the way the persona mc can change once per turn would be too much Persona games are already too easy anyways metaphor actually tries to get the player to engage in the mechanics for more than the first dungeon

[@FatalKitsune]

@@patron7906 Switching Personae didn't trivialize combat. Besides, it's a better option than reloading a save. I'd rather take lumps for a couple rounds while I adjust my strategy than have to reload.

[@patron7906]

@@FatalKitsune Understood. I feel like Metaphor has more broadly useful Classes, that most fights (at least non-Boss) can be won even with a sub-optimal group. Optimal groups tend to make encounters end fast Vs more drawn out fights, at least in my 25 hour experience into the game.

[@LajosKossuthOnline]

I desperately want to play this game but it's 2 THOUSAND LIRA, AAAAAAAAAAGGH WHY GOD

[@kazahana9679]

I'm not sure I understand the statement about "Bonds being harder to rank up than Social Links" All bond ranks only require one interaction to rank up and the max Rank is only 8 instead of 10. Am I missing something here?

[@EinFelsbrocken]

I think he probably means the stat requirements and certain quests attached to the bond. F.e. I unlocked Bardons quest battle quite early and got curbstomped 😅

[@kyoya941]

I seem to be the only one that doesn't like the time management system. This game also makes it a lot stricter with travel. I wished they didn't carry it over but it's still a great game.

[@CheckOutMyPokemons]

Its funny i think your opinions on a lot of the minutia of this game will change as you get further in haha. P s loving Metaphors constsnt nods and references to other Atlus titles.

[@beerguy177]

I'm about 10 hours in such a great game

[@derekosgood3230]

It only gets better. I believe I'm nearing 40 hours now. Soaking it all in and enjoying everything the world and lore has to offer.

[@andariel654789]

I'll wait for 60% off, maybe. Way too many titles to catch up on to purchase this.

[@RayquaSr.]

4:04 i know that robe, i do not trust anyone with that robe.

[@SENATORPAIN1]

Although i am rather enjoying this game the horrible textures and just general lack of graphical fidelity is really taking me out of it at times.

[@antonyjames4698]

wait til you try to do the optional dragon trials near the end of the game, theyre literal BS. I did one of them and attemped the other 2 like 30 times already, and decided to give up on it.

[@that_odd_guy]

I can't believe they made Persona 6 and didn't tell us smh my head

[@pralenkaman8105]

My biggest critic of this game is the combat I'm playing on hard and the first dungeon and optional dungeon (the one from brigitta's rank 1 event) were pretty challenging, the grand cathedral was a very long dungeon and to clear it in one go I had to use my resources quite strategically, I had to avoid some of the more powerful enemies, like actually run away and avoid encounters, I was actually afraid to fight some of these enemies. Even with stratagizing I still didn't manage to complete the dungeon in one go, the grand cathedral took me a good amount of time to complete, around 3/possibly 4 hours Ever since then though, I've never had to stratagize that much, no boss ever since the end of the grand cathedral has made me actually think if I was to stay in the front row to do more physical damage or if I want to step to the backrow to take less damage The second major dungeon's boss was kinda difficult and brought some of that thrill back to the gameplay, so maybe all major story bosses are like that hopefully because fighting for survival and really pushing the press turn system to its limits is one of the highlights of the game. I think the game really suffers from regicide difficulty not being unlocked until new game plus But other than that, I'm really liking everything, especially the part where I can choose any option in follower events and that won't change how fast it progresses, it will just give more magla, which is great because 1) I get to be true to myself and 2) I don't have to look at a guide everytime I do an event

[@psycholuigiman]

It's all very exciting. . . until the game gets a re-released update two years down the road with a crap ton more content for 70 bucks and no trade-in options.

[@FFpotato]

I only have one complaint with the game, and that is the name not having enough space to be named John Persona. Other than that GOTY easy.

[@ToppisYT]

I did beat this game 20h 47min

[@KyngD469]

W game. I trust ATLUS again

[@RefreshingMirage]

I wanna play the full version of this game, I will soon, just not now though

[@omensoffate]

Thanks for sharing 😂

[@Foogi9000]

There's a Demo you know that right? It lets you go through the first 4 dungeons. In-game you have till the 15th on the Calendar and that's when the Demo stops. It's insane how much time and content you're given to play with.

[@RefreshingMirage]

@@Foogi9000 I played it, I just haven’t finished it yet

[@Foogi9000]

@@RefreshingMirage Ah ok

[@blackredd6563]

Do not get spoiled dawg

[@vivilover9409]

Persona 5 must've been a tech demo made to fund this game because it's so much better

[@papapalps2415]

@@vivilover9409 Given you're blindingly obvious ideologically bias, as well as the ever-so-slight fact Metaphor is being written by almost the exact same people that were on the original team for P5, you're schizo-posting is simply delightful to witness.

[@macsis6338]

Full game? xD

[@wizamaulana6362]

Is there more than 1 ending? (Spoiler free please)

[@kira516]

Yes

[@astrorat7228]

i disagree with the no cheesing, my boyfriend unlocked Merchant and is almost done with the game alreadh

[@GlerpidyGlarson]

Your face is a metaphor refantasio. I don't mean that you're amazing. Made you look. 😊

[@TabbuEme]

Some guy spoiled it for me that the MC Will is the dying will of the dead prince and that the big bad guy is actually related to the prince. So I don't want to play it.

[@matteste]

Eh, nope. Comes with Denuvo and thus is an automatic pass for me. Also, it got cracked within days which Atlus responded with adding Denuvo to the demo as well. Either someone over there really doesn't understand how any of this shit works or they really hate their paying customers. Also, I am not a fan of the UI, it is far too busy and I feel like it is giving me headaches.

[@astolfo2305]

i just wait sale

[@NeoMusicGamer]

Currently about halfway through my NG+ run and this game is incredible. Especially if you're a longtime fan of Atlus (which I assume most people here are) there are so many references to Atlus history to varying degrees. I also found the difficulty curve way better than modern Persona titles with a final boss that actually felt properly challenging.

[@patrickripleyiii134]

Yeah I'm in the endgame now, just starred the last month and while I love persona, it's way to easy, this game on hard is perfect for me. I guess I'll have to see what ng+ regicide is like though

[@tomo8940]

So is it Persona 6 or more of a SMT VI?

[@Lonewulf321]

Neither, it’s Digital Devil Saga

[@tomo8940]

@@Lonewulf321 So it's more like a Digital Devil Saga 3 type deal. Got it. I was hoping it'd be a successor to Jack Bros. on the Nintendo Virtual Boy.

[@Lonewulf321]

@@tomo8940 yo that would be sick as hell Jack Bros rules

[@KevinTriforce]

⁠@@tomo8940We need Jack Bros. 2

[@omensoffate]

My only gripe is a lot of copy paste dungeons

[@martinde-serres8724]

They better not pull that crap with Metaphor like they've done with their last SMT and Persona games, as in making an updated version a few years later and NOT adding the new content in any form to early adopters of the game, especially if released on the same console as the original version, as it makes no fucking nonsense like when devs are remaking 1 generation-old games and releasing them full price... on the same consoles the original version can be played on no problem *cough Last of Us 1 cough* We live in the online era of gaming, people, games are CONSTANTLY being updated post-launch with downloadable patches and stuff, they CAN easily add that new content in base SMT 5 on Switch and base P5 on PS4 Metaphor's been in development in and out for over a decade, let's hope ATLUS are NOT pulling any scummy business practice with it like they did with SMT 5 and P5; the game looks complete enough it doesn't need anything new to add post-launch

[@AdApT3Rx]

This game is so peak no cap

[@jasonblundelldobebussing]

Worry not for PC crack just came out - we are so back

[@bigpesoproductions1413]

It’s more like late impressions.

[@darkholyPL]

I am not the biggest fan of Tolkien, but I at least share his dislike of allegories in fiction.

[@bladechild2449]

The MP management is the worst I've ever seen in the "series"(not series) . I genuinely could not be bothered with the early game because of it. And after that, it's basically a Persona game without the core thing that makes SMT games... demon collecting

[@kevfrazier1564]

12hrs bro? Honestly bro if you’re gonna review a game, u should be at least 25-30 hrs in. 12 hrs in any Atlas game is really just the start. Most Atlas games really don’t kick in till around the 20hr mark. Then to give an actual review later this year???

[@icd9418]

I'm actually gonna wait and hope for a Switch release.

[@ilikestamps2978]

I think this is a good game, but the copy and paste from Persona is honestly pretty disappointing. Same UI, same camera, same mechanics, you can even hear the Persona motif in some of the songs. If they were going to make a new IP, why not make it different? Now I have a conspiracy theory that this was actually supposed to be Persona 6, but for whatever reason it became this. Calling it a Persona reskin is a little much, but it definitely just feels like a Persona spin-off with Press turns and a better magatama system kind of.

[@Randompersonyouhaventmet]

I wish it was free. I hope that one cloud gaming site will make it free. Heck I don’t even care if I play for only an hour I’ll gladly take it.

[@ChuddAnon]

Where waifu ? Romance when ? 😄

[@timmcgarry6723]

Everything about metaphor has been nothing short of amazing

[@decms]

denuvo...

[@jasonblundelldobebussing]

PC hack just came out - we are so black

[@KerErt-pk3uz]

​@@jasonblundelldobebussinghow to keep saves though?😢

[@SearchmanDS]

I'm getting this game one day, it looks so good

[@Jai_dinn]

w

[@Tenoko321]

Imma gonna wait for the eventual golden version.

[@dmen0563]

Is there slice of life bullshit like the persona games?

[@nr2676]

yes, because this game it's from same dev team

[@KarasuMayonaka]

Might as well wait a year or so until there the definitive edition

[@AStrangeTrap]

Atlus claims they aren't doing that anymore, so I'd probably just buy it on a discount. P3r has had tons of deep discounts, so if you don't mind running the risk of getting spoiled then I'd do that.

[@SyntaxWyntax]

Fun game but so much talking. Spent an hour n a half playing yesturday dide 1 battle rest of talk lmao chained echoes still waaaayy better

[@tallesmagno201]

Its just P5 with a different coat of paint with a minor sprinkling of P5S and DDS features, can they not innovate? Or are they terrified to lose the playerbase? Just another game company gone soft, safe and flaccid. P6 will be exactly the same and yet you sheep will still fangirl over it. We will never get another DDS or Strnage Journey or Riadou if the tourists accept this mediocre slop.

[@Mohgenstein]

7/10 game. Too short. 40 hours in, done everything optional. 3/4s done. Pathetic. Even SMT V was longer and that had no social stuff. The MP management is god awful. If you don’t have a mage in your party you have no source of MP recovery outside of a rare item. The optional dungeons are boring. Flat, repetitive, lackluster visual design. Overall way overrated game.

[@DigitalStarry]

Personally I disagree about the UI and visuals. The UI is too much on the senses and disruptive. This game has great 2D art but the 3D visuals from what I’ve seen after playing for several hours honestly looks super dated and even sometimes ugly with how dull the color palette is and the lack of anti aliasing that causes constant shimmering. Its kinda baffling that SMTV (a game made for Switch) and even sometimes Persona 5 (a near decade old game at this point) is a game that’s nicer to look at than this.

[@vivilover9409]

blame persona 5 bc this was made in its dated engine

[@goldenhorse4823]

No offence but saying Metaphor's graphics are stunning is bit a of a lie. It is an amazing game but most textures in game look like from PS3 and game has big performance issues on pc