Why Metaphor: ReFantazio is Special

[@NamsCompendium]

Check out the game: gsght.com/c/zkq1ia Check out the demo: gsght.com/c/5dqwct

[@ZeroRanger423]

Hey man, I know that a lot of people were upset over your P3R review but personally, even though I disagree with your conclusion, I still think you brought up some really good points and I still have a lot of respect for your opinion. Looking forward to the Metaphor review!

[@rattlingmender1648]

lets hope a future vid titled "great but flawed", "why it missed the mark", or "a style heavy but soulless game" arent in the pipeline

[@toooydoeur]

Me when bad faith argument

[@lachlanwoolacott8698]

Does brilliant but flawed count

[@yatora6865]

already coping? lmfao

[@rattlingmender1648]

@@lachlanwoolacott8698 yes

[@rattlingmender1648]

@@yatora6865 nah i just know how these atlus yters function atp. they will gas tf outta a game just to 2 months later be like "yeah so the game was actually ass the whole time" just like the rest of twitter

[@Kageravager]

Something that stands out to me is that this is a new IP by a big-name company that earned my trust. Not a remake, not a remaster or a port---just a very solid new game. Im here for it

[@ZeroHxC07]

It’s just persona with classes.

[@VampireNoblesse]

and its overhyped.. as the modern press try to oversell it.., as it panders

[@ZeroHxC07]

@@VampireNoblesse don’t know about that, haven’t checked but so far gameplay wise it just feels like persona. Why release persona again? They could have done anything else tbh

[@stonalisa3729]

@@ZeroHxC07 because Persona sells stupidly well and everyone knows that

[@VampireNoblesse]

@ZeroHxC07 maybe to avoid DEI influence in P6 and still get good ESG, they dumped all the pandering into Metaphor instead (new IP).., that way P6 can remain free (and with actual beautiful feminine women and masculine dudes..), Metaphor panders on all levels (but truthfully, the writing pandering is fine & critical, not over doing.., but some characters do over do it..)

[@joshuarogers5563]

I like the Persona/SMT games, and can see why they are beloved....but personally the high school setting grinded me. Metaphor is the greatest hits from their previous work while feeling fresh and having a PHENOMENAL story. Gallica is easily the best written and voiced sidekick in YEARS. Given how dark this game is, let my hero die if need be, but do not touch her!

[@RealityRick]

People who say Metaphor RF is “more of the same” wipe their ass with their hands. This game blows 98% of the games released this year out of the water barring Wukong and SOTE.

[@acwano]

Fun fact: wiping with your hands and water is actually considered more hygienic and is the norm in many countries.😂

[@SciontheDark]

​@@acwanoThose same countries believe that using your left hand is evil.

[@acwano]

@@SciontheDark hahahahahaha

[@nickogden5312]

@@acwanowhen you’re at home and have access to a shower right there I can see that. But when you’re in public do you really want to use a public restroom where people use their hands then touch the door knobs and what not? There’s no way that’s more hygienic lol.

[@butterschunkmcdonalds5333]

Honestly I think this blows Wukong out the water as well. Wukong was fun but very overhyped IMO, Rn Metaphor is already tied with SOTE for my favorite gaming experience this year and I'm pretty sure I'm not even that far into the game yet. I'm def a little bias tho cause I'm a big fan of Persona games, P2 Anthology and P3 are amazing and P4G & P5R are two of my favorite JRPGs of all time. I haven't played Rebirth or AstroBot yet tho, I've heard great things about those as well.

[@movnture]

I would have bought it but it costs so fucking much in my country, Sega made zero attempts at considering the Purchase Parity

[@stonalisa3729]

CD keys are out and we will get a sale in a few months

[@jesserivera2043]

I'm actually stoked to play this game, but three things are holding me back from playing it at launch: 1) My state is recovering from a hurricane so my home comes first, 2) My gaming backlog is as long as a CVS receipt, and 3) Atlus seems to have the pattern of an expensive at launch price followed by an expensive DLC, only for that game to go on sale months later. I purchased Reload at launch, and by the time I was able to actually start playing it It was on sale on Steam; I don't know if this is sacrilege for a video sponsored by the developers, but that experience taught me to wait to play Atlus games.

[@stonalisa3729]

That's not an Atlus thing, this is a single player game thing. Silent Hill 2 remake is 70 and will be on sale in 6 months when people hyped for it already played it

[@joelsasmad]

I'm honestly terrified of a much greater Atlus curse: an expanded version of the game coming out a year or 2 later.

[@minimanbeast1014]

​@@joelsasmadthey have actualy already confirmed that will 100% not happen

[@joelsasmad]

@@minimanbeast1014 Thank goodness

[@jesserivera2043]

@@stonalisa3729 true. I've had similar experiences with Unicorn Overlord, the Star Ocean 2 Remake, Bravely Default 2, and several Trails games. I'm just going to assume the rule is that first party titles don't go on sale and third party games do.

[@revolver6452]

This guy finally liked a modern Atlus game? lmfao what a miracle

[@lachlanwoolacott8698]

@@revolver6452 He Enjoyed SMT5 and Persona 5 Royal is in his top 3 in the ranking persona games video, so he really didn’t hate any modern Atlus games.

[@justinmay8161]

Yeah nothing is perfect. You can like or love something while still critiquing or having a few gripes about it.

[@forestcampbell8962]

94 on metacritic lets goo. I hope it sells good and all.

[@DIEFORME173]

It’s actually 93

[@bubbletea_]

FINALLY MULTIPLE WEAPON TYPES

[@mason3029]

After playing through P3 Reload and Persona 4 Golden at the same time and beating them both, I need a break from ATLUS games for a while. This game defintiely seems similar enough to Persona (Reload especially), to where I think it’d worsen my fatigue if I played it now, so I’ll wait to play it later down the road. Looks gorgeous though, love the character designs!

[@Gokuvsnaruto22]

Maybe Christmas time would be good?

[@Yeaster]

Looks like a cool game. My backlog is SO long, but I'll keep this one on my mind

[@Jylstin]

I’m not gonna lie i was extremely excited for metaphor and that it was going to be good but I wasn’t expecting it to be called a Masterpiece worldwide on Release. Atlus really is on another level

[@t_bone2145]

Wonder how much they paid the reviewers

[@somehaterate6310]

@@t_bone2145you must be fun at parties

[@Mohgenstein]

@@t_bone2145wonder how much you’re coming

[@Arcessitor]

@@somehaterate6310 No, he's right. Western reviewers hate giving positive reviews unless they are paid or there is a political reason for giving a good review. That's just a fact.

[@GameTimeNLL]

​@@Arcessitorno its not?

[@tyrecarmon20]

So everyone hear me out: i was one of thr people who couldnt get into the demo because it was so slow. But i preordered the game a few days ago, got past the opening sections. And holy shit!!! I can NOT put this game down. It is a 10/10!!

[@dafire9634]

I've seen some people already calling this "Atlus's Elden Ring" in the sense that its culmination of the lessons they learned from every series they made before

[@izzy1356]

The combat taking distinct nods from *both* Persona/SMT and Etrian Odyssey (the row and Archetype systems) is having me even more hyped for this game. 😍 It's sounding like it's not just a new IP to try something different, but also like a love-letter to the previous franchises under Atlus' belt too. I already adored that with Xenoblade 3's gameplay so I'm jazzed to see how Metaphor shapes up!

[@Eudaimonia7564]

They heard all the “high school setting” complaints regarding the other games and made Persona 6 entirely different OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@godzilla4189]

Different team, so Persona 6 will still likely be high school based.

[@AODeLarge]

this ain’t p studio bud

[@MirrorBlood]

It is ​@@AODeLarge

[@GoodLosertjo]

I feel like there's a bit of misunderstanding from your side on the perceived criticism on 'it's too much like Persona'. People aren't complaining that it's burrows mechanics from Atlus games and therefore feels unoriginal people are complaining because the core gameplay loop is similar to that of a Persona game which could make it feel derivative. Not that I am personally complaining so far I like everything that the game has to offer but I get why 'it's too much like Persona' can be a valid criticism.

[@parsashirali8957]

2 months later: metaphor refantazio has an identity crisis Calling it

[@DigitalStarry]

I don't mind its more of the same, but I wish Atlus was more honest about it. They made out in interviews like it was supposed to be something a lot more different than their usual works like Catherine. I might watch a playthrough of the story because I know the internet will likely spoil the big twists but for me I don't want to put down the time and money for a couple of different reasons. The first is that performance and image quality is really poor for an AAA release. Even on the newest patches for the demo my PC that can maintain near constant 60fps with much more demanding games like Horizon Forbidden West can't hold a consistent 60fps in the bigger areas of Metaphor. The constant shimmering from lack of anti aliasing is distracting and sometimes even hurts my eyes. Second is that its completely possible for them to rerelease the game and charge another $70 for it. People cite the claim that Atlus is done with it because of Reload and because Midori said so, even though Midori has been proven to be wrong on multiple occasions and their only source was stolen documents they had from 2023. And Reload was already a remake. They just pulled the same strategy when it came to SMTVV and hosed over people who bought the original game on Switch by making them pay full price again. Third is that the UI is overbearing. I like P5s UI and it worked well because it choose heavily contrasting colors and easily readable ones. Metaphors UI feels too much and a bit distracting. Fourth is that while the 2D artwork looks fantastic, the 3D work is underwhelming even putting aside the lack of anti aliasing. The environments I saw in the demo look rather dull and muted and betrayed the heavily stylization of the 2D artwork and it honestly looks like a game that could have been released over a decade ago. SMTV looks better than this and it was originally released on the Switch, even P5 looks better in some instances because it hides the visual flaws so much better. And its not the case of me being a graphics snob. I love how Okami looks to this day and thats a PS2 game. Hi-Fi Rush has graphics that are technically on par with last gen but looks gorgeous. Bayonetta Origins is a budget Switch game and the visual presentation is fantastic. You can still have games that are outdated on a technical level but still look nice. Lastly I'm not completely sold on the idea that anyone can be any class/Archetype. Whenever I play games that are that freeform with classes it makes characters feel homogenized and less distinct.

[@zeosummers3984]

This game look like an anniversary. A Combination of everything ATLUS has done. If you played a few of their games you can just feel it, from the music to the character design, to the atmosphere.

[@tyrecarmon20]

It is! It is a accumulation of all their work. It is a dope game

[@ddrxmanpkmaster4988]

Love this game so far but it's a lose lose situation with it. It either Gets a ton of praise and everyone uses it as a weapon to disrespect Persona Or everyone will switch up on it and say it's just a lesser Persona or "Great but flawed"

[@tonylawson2222]

There is the possibility that this is just great on its own. There's no reason persona has to lose for this to win. 6 hasn't been made yet, and it is never fair to compare games from different generations that aren't even in the same series.

[@ddrxmanpkmaster4988]

@@tonylawson2222 I said this same thing with SMT5 but you wouldn't believe how many people are so DETERMINED to put down Persona to bring that game up. It's such a shame

[@reality3304]

The discourse is good for ATLUS, people arguing over which of their franchises is better while buying all of them. They’re in a great spot and just added another one for people to argue about.

[@RefreshingMirage]

I still haven't beat the demo, but this game looks amazing, and I really wanna play the full release

[@sonnguyenviet6935]

I would just wait for about 3 years for Alus to make a Definitive Edition of this game like what they did with P5 and SMT5

[@Khaizen10]

Didn’t they say that they aren’t doing that anymore?

[@joelsasmad]

​@@Khaizen10Where?

[@Khaizen10]

@@joelsasmad I think it was a leak or smth idk.

[@DillaryHuff]

@@Khaizen10 I think I read something like that as well, but I won't be surprised if they still do it with PS6 😅

[@gotinogaden]

I don't know, Nam... a very significant component in player's enjoyment in the Persona series was/is relatability. It wasn't just the Japanese students that were about to embark to adulthood who sank hundreds of hours in Yu/Ren's adventures like there's no tomorrow, it was also those Western youths who recognized themselves in those unforgetable teenagers with their real-life woes and troubles that got Persona its popularity. Metaphor, with its wholy otherworldly and somewhat by-the-books fantasy setting seems to ride entirely on its classic jRPG appeal, ever present in games like Trails, Tales of, etc. Persona really had a heart in that it presents the players with something so extraordinary yet so familiar. Could Metaphor ever really take on the weight that Persona carried? Only time can tell.

[@DJ-1Q84]

I kinda wish they dialed it back on the visuals. The over-stylized UI worked in P5 for the phantom thieves but for a high fantasy game it's a bit busy for me.

[@backupschmliff1156]

Really? I found it a lot more restrained than P5.

[@SimonSater]

It's VERY busy, a lot of the time to find something simple (like "equip") you have to suffer through two or three overstylized screens and hard to find infos With archetypes I was like "can you change it only in the room, or is there an option somewhere I simply cannot see?"

[@DigitalStarry]

@@backupschmliff1156 In P5 it doesn't feel as overbearing because the game stuck to three heavily contrasting colors for UI and made it feel more simplistic and easy to parse as a result. Metaphor uses a lot more colors that don't contrast as heavily and goes deeper on the effects (the massive circle that displays when its the enemies or players turn for example).

[@BuzzBee2729]

Just finish the main dungeon in 1 day everytime and you're all good!

[@IDontKnowAUsername4444]

I have my copy arriving tomorrow. Liked the prologue. Ftr DO NOT EVER take IGN or game spot reviews into consideration they don’t know what they’re talking about. Also I don’t trust sponsored “reviews” either. How could they NOT be biased? I mean cmon dude. Anyways I’m excited to play this all weekend after work tomorrow

[@GameTimeNLL]

I mean a 94 on metacritic means thats its at least good to some degree.

[@basedchimera5859]

So you don't trust this review either?

[@IDontKnowAUsername4444]

@@GameTimeNLL I really liked the prologue & being a persona lover I already knew I was going to pick this up months ago. Only thing I’m worried about it that there’s always so much clutter on the screen sometimes it starts to stutter like when in a dungeon with a lot of stuff happening or the area transitions Hopefully the full version I play today has that worked out & it’s just the prologue that’s being weird. I’ve been really looking forward to this one

[@stonalisa3729]

Almost everything is a 7/10 on IGN

[@leoryzap]

gamespot gave this a 10/10 what are you talking about lol

[@jasonblundelldobebussing]

Because it's Persona 6: SMT

[@joelsasmad]

Even SMT usually takes place in Tokyo. Just a post-apocalyptic version of Tokyo. So this is more like Persona 6: Final Fantasy.

[@maoulegna]

When friends are asking me how the game compare to Persona my response is mostly: it's Atlus Elder Ring. The culmination of everything they learned from previous games. At first glance it doesn't appears to be nothing new but it is easily proved wrong

[@tonylawson2222]

@@maoulegna I would argue that a culmination of all their previous work into one cohesive, functioning whole, is, in and of itself, an original thing to do. Elden ring is a big deal, more than any souls game, for this same reason. It isn't really new. What it is, is well cooked. So is Metaphor Re:fantazio.

[@Arcessitor]

@@tonylawson2222 Elden Ring had a ton of problems related to trying something new, wdym

[@SaberRexZealot]

I’ll play it eventually. There’s just way too many great RPGs these days.

[@WiiMoteGodYT]

it's Persona but like, COOL!

[@nitomae]

Persona but cooler it is!

[@DIEFORME173]

LMAO

[@OGR-4394]

Whole video is around defending Metaphor but I haven't seen a single negative opinion that they were copying their other series.

[@illusive-mike]

The overworld battles are easily my least favorite part of the game, in large part because they enable grinding, and especially because Mage can grind MP using them. We're left with yet another Hashino game that almost achieved proper interplay between the calendar system and MP management before letting one system ruin it. But to call Metaphor stale is just wrong. Synthesis and Archetype limitations make this the best implementation of Press Turn yet, one where the player is actually forced to engage with their own weaknesses as opposed to just stacking the team to hard-counter the opponent. The subtle reworks to the calendar mechanics make the out-of-dungeon gameplay a lot less frustrating than Persona's "keep the wiki open because picking anything but the best options is an irrecoverable waste" approach. Louis may be an obvious Lucifer transplant, yet that only gives us a touchpoint with a setting that otherwise lacks a direct physical connection with the contemporary Japan that most Atlus games use. There are old elements everywhere, sure, but the game as a whole is a substantial evolution of all the formulas it uses, not a pointless retread. And hey, now that we have a new game to safeguard "the Hashino Formula", it gives Persona 6 room to reinvent that series again.

[@Venialbartender]

Pre-ordered and it's already downloaded . Ready when all of you are . Lol I'm really excited

[@MrSupersmash93]

Its persona vanilla mix with final fantasy/bravely default chocolate!

[@silverbandit721]

Metaphor this! Metaphor that! I’m still on the Switch version of SMT 5 and they delisted the DLC!!!???

[@gotinogaden]

It's because of Vengeance. That has been going on for some time now. Just nintendo (sorry, couldn't help myself!) switch to Vengeance which has all DLCs of the original.

[@joelociraptorgaming80]

I tried the prologue demo and while I've never been able to get into the Persona games, I did enjoy my time with Metaphor. I'm still on the fence about buying it though as by the end of the demo I had kind of had my fill of the game.

[@Janfey]

I love it! It's so awesome to pay 70$ for a game with no anti-aliasing and heaviest motion blur you have ever seen. Thanks for the headaches Atlus!

[@DillaryHuff]

Amazingly informative and necessary comment!

[@Bunni89]

I think you're being a bit disingenuous with the arguments here. People didn't complain about "press turns from Nocturne being in Digital Devil Saga" because those are both SMT games. People are allowed to be a little let down that something that was supposed to be an entirely separate series from SMT just.. has SMT things, still. I do agree that it's totally insane for people to think the game is gonna be bad before even playing it, just because it's got the same stuff. You're completely right that games with derivative systems can take them in wildly different directions, to make a uniquely enjoyable experience. Digital Devil Saga is a great example of how shifting around the same stuff can be done well! But that doesn't mean these things AREN'T the same, just because they're not BAD. It seems ridiculous to go "Metaphor doesn't have the same time system! Because it has the same time system.. for different thematic reasons!" Idk man, I feel we should be defending that a derivative game can indeed be good. Not turning our backs on reality and pretending the similarities don't exist.

[@requiem418]

So, why is it "SPECIAL" ????

[@amronfaro9728]

Xbox marketing is the worst. No way in hell those Xbots will play a weeb game.

[@SayitwIsaac]

Wondering why they chose xbox as a marketing partner anyway. Not to put down xbox but everyone knows for a fact that they aren’t doing so well at the moment. There’s also the fact that most of the time they put new releases on gamepass day 1 which is stupid because gamepass doesn’t make devs any money, its why hifi rush failed financially even though it got high reviews, because most people got it on gamepass instead of actually buying it so the devs basically got 0 money

[@wood1066]

@@SayitwIsaac They just announced the game's physical and digital sales have already topped over a million on day 1 so they are doing just fine.

[@Nutzo7x]

I bought the game on Xbox.

[@amronfaro9728]

@@Nutzo7x I'm not surprised you bought it. It's not like I care. Not many Xbox players are gonna last long to finish jrpg with longer lengths.

[@SayitwIsaac]

@@wood1066 Not saying they won't be doing fine(It's an atlus game ofc itll do fine) Just saying they could've done potentially better if u get what i mean

[@ThiefofRPGistheWanderingSoul]

I'm afraid of picking up this game if I need to buy a new version in 3-4 years

[@DillaryHuff]

I can't remember where I read it, but Atlus did mention that they were not going to do that anymore. Whether or not they meant it, I don't know.

[@ThiefofRPGistheWanderingSoul]

@@DillaryHuff I mean SMT V Vengeance just came out so it would have had to have been a pretty recent comment

[@DillaryHuff]

@@ThiefofRPGistheWanderingSoul Yeah, it was only a few months ago that I read it. I'd link you to it if I could remember where it was.

[@DillaryHuff]

@@ThiefofRPGistheWanderingSoul Someone else commented on it above, so I can't just be imagining it lol

[@pencilcheck]

the combat encounter borrows from trails series latest one Kuro and it is cool

[@SayitwIsaac]

Its just an expansion on something thats been in smt games since 3. You’re able to hit enemies with a weapon outside of turn based combat in order to deal preemptive damage. Only difference now is that instead of 1 hit you can do multiple

[@RoanoraZoro123]

Brother its obvious that its a kuro inspiration ​@@SayitwIsaac

[@ManuPlays05]

Great demo but gonna wait it's re release My backlog is like really big lmao

[@allenp920]

Highest Metacritic scores this year. No disrespect meant to Metaphor but the bar hasn’t been particularly high so far this year

[@LarkyLuna]

If you like this kind of plot and don't mind stupidly hard combat, the < 3 personas and shin megamis and other spin offs might be for you Some of them really go to dark and complex places and even persona 1 and 2 don't focus on school life even when you play as students Atlus has a very good history. Persona 4 and 5 weren't for me but I'm excited to try this one

[@chiangmei1265]

i cant believe IGN can "understand" this game and give it 9 ??? or they just give it 9 since they dont understand it.......

[@COREcasual]

You lost me at "everything is timed"

[@rumotu]

So you are saying its not persona5 reskin but persona 5 x Etrian Odyssey reskin. Got it.

[@304Blaise]

Not really… more like persona mixed with final fantasy and smt. The archetype system is way more similar to the job switching where you’re collecting and customizing a bunch of jobs that any character can switch between at any time, and inherit skills from each other. EO has the classes progress on a more open skill tree but without the ability to have a character switch classes and combine learned aspects of them

[@tonylawson2222]

​@@304Blaise If you take EO's job system, and you combine it with the persona switching ability called "wildcard" from the persona games, I would reckon you get... exactly what they made. It resembles the final fantasy job system, in some of its incarnations, but not all. It was effectively reverse engineered into a similar system, using only in-house parts.

[@DJ-uu3pz]

​@@tonylawson2222 nah the game has way more similarities to DDS than persona combat wise.

[@leonardrussell1117]

Even if it’s just more persona. That’s great😂

[@zupasha]

i'm really annoyed by people who are putting persona down in order to praise this game. Like, persona is amazing, leave it out of the conversation please? This is something else, something special on its own. It can stand on its own. Also, its way more a Final Fantasy x SMT game than a persona game anyway.

[@tonylawson2222]

@@zupasha Atlus worked too hard on the Etrian Odyssey series, and it's complex class and subclass systems, for people to keep giving final fantasy credit here. Square deserves no credit. It's Atlus programmers who slaved away for low wages and long hours making DS dungeon crawler games that didn't sell very well for decades, in order to give us the bones of this new game.

[@macsis6338]

Is it a masterpiece tho?

[@tonylawson2222]

@@macsis6338 Demo is *gas* And it's *free*

[@omensoffate]

@@tonylawson2222so it smells bad?

[@joelsasmad]

​@@omensoffateThe air we breathe is a gas.

[@markdeejay86]

Yes

[@miyazakisimping]

I haven't played this yet, but it gives me vibes of a blend between P5 and FE3H (two games I adored). Would you say that's accurate at all?

[@DJ-uu3pz]

Story wise (mind you I'm 5 hours in) you can feel a few Fe3h beats. That's about all you get, even the settings don't really line up outside of medival. You get the time mechanic and UI/appearance from P5. Job system from etrian odyssey. Combat from DDS. All with a few little things to make it its own

[@miyazakisimping]

@@DJ-uu3pz Sounds really good, thanks for the info.

[@cal5365]

I wish it played more like SMT or even Etrian Odyssey, but i'm having fun carrying on from my demo run. Have to say Im not the greatest fan of some of the heavy P5 copying, and the menu can be overly messy at times

[@t_bone2145]

Fr it’s the little things like the tournament rank that doesn’t make sense at all and feels like it’s only there to be an alternate version of the online poll in p5. I wish this game felt more unique

[@100Servings]

You should compare this game to something else using a figure of speech in which a word or phrase literally denoting one kind of object or idea is used in place of another to suggest a likeness or analogy between them. Just make sure not to use "like" or "as". That would be a simile.

[@kurtz2412]

I hear SJ peak ost!!!

[@OnDavidsBrain]

I'll definitely give the demo a shot but if I do end up liking it I'll wait till it goes on sale as I avoid 70 dollar games on principal. Also as someone who has played quite a bit of Atlus' SMT catalogue it just comes across as a Persona structure with an SMT coat of paint and a job system. Now if the story hooks me I'll be all in but if not then again going on sale. Also the hype, i've had experiences where games and movies were hyped up to be the second coming of Christ only for them to be average at best (Horizon Zero Dawn, The Outer Worlds, Star Wars The Force Awakens and the Spider-verse movies.) and I don't want to go through that again. On top of the fact I'm going for SMTVV's platinum and starting to get burned out on massive JRPG's.

[@t_bone2145]

Hate to burst your bubble but the story is the worst thing about this game. Games better than persona 1 so far but that’s about all the praise I can give it. Unfortunately Hashino is not back, guess p5 was just a fluke of a masterpiece

[@NamTran-xc2ip]

@@t_bone2145with 2008 graphics as well😂

[@Gokuvsnaruto22]

⁠@@t_bone2145 You said the reviewers got paid off so why would anyone take what you say and run with it clown? The story isn’t bad if you can’t even give one valid critique about it.

[@t_bone2145]

@@Gokuvsnaruto22 oh I can critique it. The biggest problem with metaphor is the lack of context of previous events, not giving me enough reason to completely disagree with the antagonist’s actions and removing any possible weight the story could have. In p5 you meet kamoshida almost immediately and not long after HE HIMSELF shows you exactly why you should disagree with his actions. In this game you don’t even actually see Louis until it’s time to unalive him. Because of this, your party members feel naive and their awakenings have zero impact (strohl is dumb). P5 awakenings were good because I felt the characters anger, but not in this game. Anyway btw who decided Louis has to be unalived to break the princes’ curse in the first place (also a character I have no reason to care about)? When were they going to explain that? Also why when you actually meet Louis face to face does he not remember you as the people that tried to unalive him? I have an answer, p l o t c o n v e n i e n c e. Plot is a dumpster fire. Would you like me to continue? Heismay is actually a very well written character, I’ll give it that

[@joelsasmad]

​​​​​​@@t_bone2145Bro did you even play the demo?! You literally open the game seeing him murder the king and be a smug douche about it afterwards. That is plenty of reason to hate him even before the context of him cursing our mcs best friend. Then you see at the Kings funeral how even after he makes his apparent murder of the king super obvious to everyone people still follow him because he is a fear mongering manipulator. Something we know because we earlier saw an entire battalion of men sent to their deaths by his servant in order to artificially raise fear among the people. It is an objectively frustrating and in some ways unfortunately realistic situation. The whole point of Strohl's backstory is to establish that innocent, uninvolved people are suffering because of his machinations. I genuinely do not understand how you could say we are not shown enough reason to disagree with his actions. We technically didn't try to unalive him. Grius did and got killed. He doesn't really have any reason to know us at all. Your judgement of Strohls awakening is really subjective. I personally loved it and feel that the MCs awakening should have been more over the top in a similar manner. And bro. If your complaining about needing to kill the caster to break a curse your "criticisms" aren't even nitpicking. Aside from that we are promised alot more going on beneath the scenes with the "humans", the storybook the mc has telling of an idealized version of our world, and the fact that our assistant was sealed away by the King for unknown reasons.

[@nightgoat99]

what is the point of having bad grafix? Theres like 2 polygons and they cant anti-alias them. Switch port on all platforms :(

[@AC3Rarin]

Glazed

[@willier47]

Thanks just finished downloading. Loved Persona 4 and 5.

[@keyvonteleslie338]

So I have to make this fun note will quick. It about encounters. It sounds similar how the recent trails(the legend of heroes) series does it combat encounters. I just wanted to make an note of that since the legend of heroes series is underrated along with series life tales and star ocean.

[@machodgdon]

Bro knew I was waiting for my countdown clock on when I could play this game to hit 0

[@Al-cm8ny]

Nam did i understand this correctly? We will be punished if we do things our own way during the day? I have to max appeal to the public over companions and other side stuff? I cant sit down and explore on my own time or get to know my companions? Im trying to relax when i play a game not be poked and railroaded to do things that if i dont i fail.

[@drachenfeIs]

"its just like persona" put an evoker to your head and pull it, not in the "metaverse"

[@gotinogaden]

I take it that you liked SH2?

[@drachenfeIs]

@@gotinogaden no

[@javiermontiero4982]

I'm amazed they actually thagot GOOD English voice actors. Wild. But I don't like the game. It's comparatively vapid. It has zero imagination. It's set in a medieval/high fantasy world and it's made by some of the most imaginative devs out there. And somehow they pooped out a PS3 looking game lacking any unique designs. It's just stoney castles, drab colors, and mundane environments and dungeons. How did they not come up with wild, fantastical stuff for the world?! You have horses that have pointy ears. Humans with pointy ears. Humans with tiny horns. Humans with bunny ears. A protagonist that's a human with waaaacky zany eyes oooooo. I know everyone's caught up in the honeymoon phase right now so no one will agree. But I hope people will open their eyes and realize this is just such a sad followup to all the amazing Persona games. It's just Soul Hackers but medieval.

[@jackfrost3686]

Coming out near sparking zero was a mistake

[@IDontKnowAUsername4444]

Lmao

[@Gokuvsnaruto22]

You’re on drugs if you think a JRPG is competing with a anime fighting game.

[@TheBaxes]

Two different markets to be honest

[@IDontKnowAUsername4444]

@@TheBaxes Right

[@aaaaaaaaaa22877u]

This game is a sequel to persona 5 no question

[@kermitwithamustache3885]

YOU ARE MY SPECIAL 🔥 🔥 🔥 🗣️ 🗣️

[@t_bone2145]

2:37 I still see social links and social stats what’s so different

[@backupschmliff1156]

It's an SMT game with Persona's formula. The vibes are SMT, the battle system is SMT, the dungeons are SMT, but all in the Persona formula.

[@tonylawson2222]

@@t_bone2145 everybody is the wildcard, but nobody can change personas in battle. Archetypes, the new "personas," are more of a class system than individual fusable creatures. They each have unique passives and active skills. They can all inherit one skill from any other Archetypes to start, and more as you level up your social link with the corresponding follower. What weapons and armor your characters can equip depends on their Archetype. You can't date or sleep with party members. Perhaps some social links, which are called followers here, but I haven't gotten there to know. The story is more mature, political, and serious, yet also firmly High Fantasy. The Characters vary in ages and aren't high school students. The 3 physical damage types are back as resistance and weaknesses. Slash, pierce, and bludgeoning. There are more and varied dungeons, which feature optional overworld combat. There are items from Etrian Odyssey, such as the Ariande Thread that let's you teleport out of a dungeon immediately. Those social stats effect your access to necessary merchants, as well as to followers and side quests. They are part of the metric used to judge your worthiness as a leader, to potentially become king, so they are probably the most important they've ever narratively been, as well as their status as a merchant gate. The plot isn't persona or smt. It's something new.

[@Gokuvsnaruto22]

@@backupschmliff1156You just made up shit for youtube likes, get a life

[@Trav83]

Ugh I hate turn based rpgs. Having to sit there and wait your turn to strike is too dated

[@moddingspree]

Oh look, another 3 anime characters in a row game. Yawn

[@joelsasmad]

@@moddingspree *Goes to a company that always made games with an anime art style. *Complains about the anime characters.

[@moddingspree]

@@joelsasmad the complaint is more about the combat, aka 3 anime dudes in a row selecting abilities from an excel spreadsheet

[@anon6181]

Was hoping it was more SMT than persona. Pass

[@thickdaddymukbang]

Have you played the demo? I'd say it's in between.

[@lolailo2199]

You are on your honeymoon phase. It is probably not special bro. Everything this game is attempting to accomplish is nothing new, and judging from what I've played of the demo, it's going to have persona 5 levels of subtlety.

[@osn19]

99% passive animé, 1% active gameplay

[@prod.b4bnik]

nah lol

[@spaz-the-space-wizard]

"NO GUYS ALL THOSE PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE GAME ARE JUST MAD THAT IT HAS THE SAME GAMEPLAY AS PERSONA AND SMT NOT THAT THEY REWRITE THE DIOLOGUE PLEASE BUY THE GAME PLEASE BUY THE GAMEPLEASE BUY THEPLEASE BUY THE GAME GAMEPLEASE BUY THE GAMEPLEASE BUY THE GAMEPLEASE BUY THE GAMEPLEASE BUY THE GAMEPLEASE BUY THE GAME"

[@Gokuvsnaruto22]

Not funny.

[@spaz-the-space-wizard]

@@Gokuvsnaruto22 go buy the game consumer

[@vulcanmemes9770]

​​@@spaz-the-space-wizard meds schizo

[@Gokuvsnaruto22]

@@spaz-the-space-wizard ?

[@spaz-the-space-wizard]

@@Gokuvsnaruto22 don't think Consum product wait for next product