You should use this to move around instead...

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@SSBMTutorials
@SSBMTutorials 3 жыл бұрын
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@sleepytf2
@sleepytf2 3 жыл бұрын
might be helpful to rename the video to the actual technique so that new players can find it later on. (I can appreciate some good clickbait tho)
@vegetarblessb
@vegetarblessb 3 жыл бұрын
Or at least in the tags
@nickb8755
@nickb8755 3 жыл бұрын
@sleepy According to the new Veritasium video, it will be able to help more people by using clickbait.
@CrispyGFX
@CrispyGFX 3 жыл бұрын
People who would find this useful aren't the target audience. Clickbait drives the views.
@aiden9472
@aiden9472 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure they'll consider title changes dependent on what KZbin claims their real-time impression rates are.
@parkersmith4621
@parkersmith4621 3 жыл бұрын
Really? I can't. Clickbait like this is fucking annoying and grimey
@CeilingPanda
@CeilingPanda 3 жыл бұрын
It would have been funny to do an aprils fools with rolling for movement - feels like some of my netplay experience though :^)
@Proxymoron180
@Proxymoron180 3 жыл бұрын
Look man just because I can't wavedash
@firebert95
@firebert95 3 жыл бұрын
I had slight anxiety that the Marth at the end was going to obliterate that Pichu with an f-smash ;)
@mrmolasses5888
@mrmolasses5888 3 жыл бұрын
Ever since I started watching ssbm tutorials I’ve gotten much better at melee even when using a lower mid tier character, that being Mario. And despite what everyone and everything say, I’m not switching to doc. Thanks a lot ssbm tutorials
@erysecret
@erysecret 3 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people don't realize that doc and mario have *completely* different play styles. Because of their kill setups and knockback values Mario is way more combo oriented compared to Doc's more toned back, zoning game (with pills.) Not to mention, for this reason mario is way more fun to play against :) Edit: I would say Captain Falcon is closer to mario than Doc is, though that might be a stretch
@goosekhan6396
@goosekhan6396 3 жыл бұрын
People have said pikachu is a poor mans fox, I think a likewise analogy would be that mario is the poor mans falcon
@mrmolasses5888
@mrmolasses5888 3 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough when I feel like playing a better character I like playing falcon
@BirdAsBond
@BirdAsBond 3 жыл бұрын
Good choice! However I *do* advise you to at the very least pick up a secondary pocket Doc. You never know when he'll come in handy lol.
@spaghettiking7312
@spaghettiking7312 3 жыл бұрын
Been playing Melee competitively for years, and I am still impressed that there's new applications showing up.
@TurbinationE
@TurbinationE 3 жыл бұрын
This isn't new
@dippn7047
@dippn7047 3 жыл бұрын
@@TurbinationE people knew that you could crouch to cancel a dash for as far back as I can remember (began in 2005). But using it was pretty strictly used to downsmash out of a dash animation or for sheik ducking a hitbox/cc grabbing. The closest thing I can remember to this would be the Fast Like Teee Grab and that was closer to 07 or 08 if memory serves. But once again, that was using it as part of a larger technique. I have no doubt people have used it as a general movement option but for some people who only really follow the tournaments and occasionally hop on netplay to relive the glory days theres a lot of small things that have become available that you would only ever know about if you talked to the right person at the time. Not sure the point of this reply tbh, just felt like blabbin while I wait for my laundry to finish
@notwhoyouare1543
@notwhoyouare1543 3 жыл бұрын
the act of crouching to extend the dash dance/crouching and dashing in general is part of an old school technique called cactuar dash dancing
@averagejoessb3110
@averagejoessb3110 3 жыл бұрын
I just started doing this recently, it's crazy how good and important this is, especially as sheik.
@aplsed
@aplsed 3 жыл бұрын
For people wondering what the video is about before playing it, it teaches you how to Dash out of Crouch
@stayontrack
@stayontrack 3 жыл бұрын
thanks, now if only they would've put that in the title...
@hibernate44
@hibernate44 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I’ve been struggling to dash out of crouch for months, been doing direct. Can’t wait to try out this method
@senorbuen0
@senorbuen0 Жыл бұрын
this might be a long shot but I haven't found any in depth guides for defense which I think is an overlooked skill and very important to have. Would be nice to have spark teaching this :)
@rkraccoons
@rkraccoons 3 жыл бұрын
Spark could be reading a legal document and still make it entertaining. He's just a naturally funny guy
@ParagonPKC
@ParagonPKC 3 жыл бұрын
When asked about what he did around STR (where alot of us first heard of him in socal, he beat plup going doc random 3 times in a row) he said: uh, there's a Wendy's
@erysecret
@erysecret 3 жыл бұрын
nice vid spark, thanks for the tips :)
@samuelbeall3787
@samuelbeall3787 3 жыл бұрын
Now I understand how people dash longer. Thanks!
@seefourdee
@seefourdee 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to hear from ya Spark!
@eric_ssbm_28
@eric_ssbm_28 3 жыл бұрын
the thing is my controller can pivot without problems, dash ooc(out of crouch idk if its really written like that) and dashback, what the the "issue" with my controller
@shadowdragonx2
@shadowdragonx2 3 жыл бұрын
I love seeing these videos again
@thevorace
@thevorace 3 жыл бұрын
Been doin this for years. Added bonus when you crouch under a grab.
@stayontrack
@stayontrack 3 жыл бұрын
maybe it's time to do something else if you've been doing this for years. I can suggest taking a shower and maybe even going outside if you think you will be able to survive the extreme shock to the system.
@heatnova
@heatnova 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I see this dash out of crouch tech in a smash fan game called ssf2, we call it dash cancel
@NesDaKid
@NesDaKid 3 жыл бұрын
this game just keeps on giving...infinite content!
@Tiznado
@Tiznado 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for the upload, now i just have to stop getting dashback grabbed
@flop22222
@flop22222 3 жыл бұрын
Toph’s prophecy is coming to fruition
@beluga_1776
@beluga_1776 3 жыл бұрын
wait what is the capacitor mod? Do I already have that if i play on slippi?
@Bones0
@Bones0 3 жыл бұрын
No, it is a physical mod that has to be soldered into your controller. It limits the input of your stick when it goes a little too far after you release it quickly.
@stayontrack
@stayontrack 3 жыл бұрын
you install sweaty nerd greasy shit on the motherboard, falco main friend of mine does it for all the braindead spacies round my area
@no-eyes607
@no-eyes607 3 жыл бұрын
Have not watch this and already wondering if moonwalking is back
@yungtraplord8553
@yungtraplord8553 3 жыл бұрын
we love spark!
@notwhoyouare1543
@notwhoyouare1543 3 жыл бұрын
isn't this just cactuar dash dancing with the added crouch cancel/pode/controller issues to the video?
@Pslamist
@Pslamist 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, good ol' dooc never let me down.
@MrKynzer
@MrKynzer 3 жыл бұрын
Hello ssbm tutorials I would to know if pivoting could be one of the nexts videos.
@bladefox5082
@bladefox5082 3 жыл бұрын
Yay I get to learn more about melee from SSBM Tutorials!
@PooCrizzap
@PooCrizzap 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@werewer54
@werewer54 3 жыл бұрын
Is this that much better than dashing forwards out of crouch first then dash back? I feel like the timing is a bit tight.
@ariesomega2487
@ariesomega2487 3 жыл бұрын
You lose at best 2 frames (if frame perfect) and you also shift your hurtbox in one direction which opens up easy hits for your opponent
@herzogwolf7225
@herzogwolf7225 3 жыл бұрын
Overall this video says, that 1 tech is usefull more people should Use it. What a way to bring up the cealing :D
@lucalyons-sosa9843
@lucalyons-sosa9843 3 жыл бұрын
I think we all have an input that we historically just suck at and one that comes super naturally, regardless of practice. For me, I suck at turnaround uptilts but God damn I can dash out of crouch.
@Back2Zack
@Back2Zack 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I can shield drop like a monster and ledge dash fairly well with very little practice, but can barely ever jc shine in a match and i actually practice that. It's annoying.
@stayontrack
@stayontrack 3 жыл бұрын
@@Back2Zack grounded jc shine is harder than shielddrop and ledgedash so not surprising
@Back2Zack
@Back2Zack 3 жыл бұрын
@@stayontrack yeah maybe about the shield drop. Still some people have faster fingers but worse rhythm or timing.
@spenceranderson9965
@spenceranderson9965 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like I didn't entirely get it how does this extend dash dance range with sheik?
@thejoester45
@thejoester45 3 жыл бұрын
So you can cancel dash into another dash but you cant cancel run into a dash in the opposite direction, but you can crouch out of run and then dash back out of the crouch. It's useful for short dash range characters like Shiek and Samus since they transition into run very quickly after a dash and you want to be able to play at a larger variety of spacings.
@GoesTeeVisuals
@GoesTeeVisuals 3 жыл бұрын
I really thought Marth was going to Fsmash tipper that Pichu 😱
@gusmcbean9474
@gusmcbean9474 3 жыл бұрын
Thought this was gonna be a troll video about crawling
@darienmoncree3980
@darienmoncree3980 3 жыл бұрын
I think I made a similar comment about this in the last video, but I definitely learned stuff in this video
@britrocks1
@britrocks1 3 жыл бұрын
How exactly does it extend your dash dance?
@SSBMTutorials
@SSBMTutorials 3 жыл бұрын
you can run further than your normal dashdance range, but then still turn around very quickly to grab or attack. dashing out of crouch is just a few frames slower than actual dashdancing but its still very fast and usually throws people off-guard since they don't expect you to be able to turn around at all when you've gone past your dashdance range
@Hakusheri
@Hakusheri 3 жыл бұрын
Rolling along the gate causes me to get a dash turnaround. What am I doing wrong?
@SSBMTutorials
@SSBMTutorials 3 жыл бұрын
control stick has to be straight down first to go into the crouching animation before you roll back along the gate
@Hakusheri
@Hakusheri 3 жыл бұрын
@@SSBMTutorials thanks man
@Cee-looo
@Cee-looo 3 жыл бұрын
Quarter circles?
@sonicfan2015
@sonicfan2015 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@jonathandwilliams2885
@jonathandwilliams2885 3 жыл бұрын
How is this different from cactuar dashing?
@Cardboxx
@Cardboxx 3 жыл бұрын
This(dashing out of crouch) is part of cactuar dashing cactuar dash = cancelling the run animation with a crouch, then dashing ot of crouch. this video is focusing on dash out of crouch in general(how to do it and other possible uses)
@Chr1sT0fu
@Chr1sT0fu 3 жыл бұрын
Ok this kinda blew my mind because I'm a dumbass and when dash dancing, whenever I went I to a run I'd always "reset" my dash dance by wavedashing once but this video made me realize I could literally just crouch then dash lol
@TurbinationE
@TurbinationE 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, wavedash down is really overrated in general
@normalrachael
@normalrachael 3 жыл бұрын
that’s the cactuar dash
@invalidssb
@invalidssb 3 жыл бұрын
Spark pog!
@ElDrHouse2010
@ElDrHouse2010 3 жыл бұрын
this is literally just cactuar dashing tho ???
@littlemisseevee2309
@littlemisseevee2309 3 жыл бұрын
might be helpful in roa too
@davidalejandromorenocornej5726
@davidalejandromorenocornej5726 3 жыл бұрын
do one the same but with captain falcon
@mattdotzeb
@mattdotzeb 3 жыл бұрын
SparkPog
@TheSharkasmCrew
@TheSharkasmCrew 2 жыл бұрын
hey guys! here's how you dash out of crouch: 1. crouch 2. dash
@sampletext7925
@sampletext7925 3 жыл бұрын
Rasen tutorial when
@carldalord
@carldalord 3 жыл бұрын
I should use this to move around instead
@VinnytotheK
@VinnytotheK 3 жыл бұрын
You should use this to move around instead
@carldalord
@carldalord 3 жыл бұрын
@@VinnytotheK I will use this to move around instead
@InsertChannelHere
@InsertChannelHere 3 жыл бұрын
Spark sounds like he's doing his best impression of a nerd 100% of the time. Dope Sheik tho
@fernandaps2
@fernandaps2 3 жыл бұрын
Quarter circles in smash lol
@OmniNero
@OmniNero 3 жыл бұрын
For whatever reason, I find it easier to dash forward out of crouch than dashing backwards out of crouch. Doesn't matter which way I'm facing. Any dash out of crouch that is away from where I'm currently facing, I always seem to mess up. Man, I need to gitgud.
@TurbinationE
@TurbinationE 3 жыл бұрын
Because it is easier. You can dash forward during the uncrouching animation, but you cannot dash back. Try crouching, then quickly letting go of the stick and tapping forward. Now, try the same thing but tapping backwards.
@OmniNero
@OmniNero 3 жыл бұрын
@@TurbinationE Gotcha. Thanks for the info. Does rolling the stick from down to left/right skip over uncrouch animation? Do you know how that works?
@Cardboxx
@Cardboxx 3 жыл бұрын
@@OmniNero once your stick goes above a certain Y value you'll start standing up (preventing DashBack OutOfCrouch) so with the straight to the side method you have to do frame 1 fully down frame 2 fully to the side if you'e to slow it'll go frame 1 fully down frame 2 not quite to the side yet, but stick high enough to trigger uncrouch animation frame 3 to the side but stuck in the "no dashback" state since you can't never know when the game will poll input for the next frame, it's impossible to be consistent(if you start moving the stick 2 ms before"next frame", you'd have 2 ms to go from down to the side) by going low with your stick, you minimize the time spent in the "tilt zone" so you could be frame 1 crouch frame 2 not fully to the sides, but stick low enough to not trigger "uncrouch" frame 3 stick fully to the side(dashback)
@Cardboxx
@Cardboxx 3 жыл бұрын
web.archive.org/web/20171016055544im_/i.imgur.com/oAROhEq.png (credits to kadano for the stick map) idk if youtube will shadowban this comment because of the link bu basically, you need to go from crouch zone to smash turn zone, without the game polling you when your stick is in tilt turn. going low makes the danger zone smaller
@OmniNero
@OmniNero 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cardboxx Gotcha. That makes sense. Thanks.
@heinzketchup14
@heinzketchup14 3 жыл бұрын
no kira no tutorial : (
@ofischial
@ofischial 3 жыл бұрын
more shiek pls
@kenny6071
@kenny6071 3 жыл бұрын
seeeeeeesh
@mrcool76789
@mrcool76789 Жыл бұрын
naw, there's way too much to melee , fuck this lol
@Chrisuan
@Chrisuan 3 жыл бұрын
hi
@taylorbee4010
@taylorbee4010 3 жыл бұрын
Tekken ish
@DoomJoy666
@DoomJoy666 3 жыл бұрын
For the crouching aspect of this. IE running and instantly crouch canceling, you can hold c stick down while running and you can achieve the same thing, it asdi's
@orzaedits
@orzaedits 3 жыл бұрын
asdi down is not the same as crouch canceling. holding c stick down does not make you crouch cancel
@omarg2079
@omarg2079 3 жыл бұрын
Not always applicable. For example, get up attacks will knock down fox at 0% if he asdi's down, but he'll CC it if he crouches.
@bootleg6595
@bootleg6595 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@omgwtfrofltomato
@omgwtfrofltomato 3 жыл бұрын
do the clickbait titles actually help
@SSBMTutorials
@SSBMTutorials 3 жыл бұрын
yeah by a lot and its the #1 advice i always get from other youtubers better than me so yknow
@stayontrack
@stayontrack 3 жыл бұрын
@@SSBMTutorials it helped me unsub ya
@parkersmith4621
@parkersmith4621 3 жыл бұрын
Stop with the fucking clickbait. This is not at all a replacement for dash dancing as the thumbnail suggests. I wouldn't even really call it a movement option, it's more of a punish game technique.
@fireballftw-
@fireballftw- 3 жыл бұрын
Don't know how this will ever be used, since smash players don't know how to do quarter-circle motions lol
@VinnytotheK
@VinnytotheK 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah okay
@rickjames5135
@rickjames5135 3 жыл бұрын
Sure they do, ex wave shining, smash DI
@stayontrack
@stayontrack 3 жыл бұрын
you underestimate our power, melee players are tech as fuck
@happyhardcoreee
@happyhardcoreee 3 жыл бұрын
less spark plz
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