Watch this if you think Reaction Tech Chasing is impossible

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@SSBMTutorials 3 жыл бұрын
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@jamesgamble2660
@jamesgamble2660 3 жыл бұрын
love ur vids
@TrueYankeeFan
@TrueYankeeFan 3 жыл бұрын
Blue Pill for sure. Cuz it doesn't say it has to be only for Smash, I could totally be like, "Hey Zain, which carton of milk should I buy?" and he could be all like, "2% dude." Would be pretty cool.
@swank8508
@swank8508 3 жыл бұрын
a good example of why experts in one field arent experts in every field. whole milk is clearly best and i will DIE on this hill
@ErikSeastead
@ErikSeastead 3 жыл бұрын
It says ALL the pros! Do you really want Ken, M2k, Mango, and Armada yelling over each other??
@finmin2k
@finmin2k 3 жыл бұрын
sounds like zain doesn't know that whole milk is CLEARLY THE BEST FUCKING MILK
@CSharp__
@CSharp__ 3 жыл бұрын
I hope this becomes a copypasta
@ThevenimX
@ThevenimX 3 жыл бұрын
See but what of like all the coaches talk to you including Leffen
@GustoFormula
@GustoFormula 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for this. I've practiced tech chasing in uncle punch a lot and even studied the frames of different tech options, but I still haven't been able to react to tech in place and grab it a single time lol. excited to see if this will help
@SSBMTutorials
@SSBMTutorials 3 жыл бұрын
It's definitely still very hard, but in my personal experience, if you are even close to doing it online, you can easily do it on CRT
@ZachStarAttack
@ZachStarAttack 3 жыл бұрын
for reacting, sussing out visual cues and flowcharting by reacting to techrolls while assuming its tech in place until proven otherwise is what i have done to make me a reaction speed god
@DrewZGmusic
@DrewZGmusic 3 жыл бұрын
I'd take pink pill, without having to worry about execution I can completely customise my own playstyle
@MultiAsdasad
@MultiAsdasad Жыл бұрын
For real, being able to do whatever you want in Melee is the dream
@DopeSamus
@DopeSamus 3 жыл бұрын
I've been playing this game competitively for 7 years and I still learn from these videos!! Such good content!! Keep it up ♥️
@MrLzSmash
@MrLzSmash 3 жыл бұрын
algorithm
@koitsuga
@koitsuga 3 жыл бұрын
Reaction time pill is still the strongest because of what it does for you in neutral and advantage state: it shrinks your opponent's unreactable threat zone in a weird nonlinear way.
@ExoticDva
@ExoticDva 3 жыл бұрын
I’d be sick to not have to practice to get really good tech skill
@sweetshoez
@sweetshoez 3 жыл бұрын
Spark is actually making great guides. I’ve been playing for 8 years, I watch these mostly to support but this was actually OD
@rattlelarry2186
@rattlelarry2186 3 жыл бұрын
200 bpm? *gets wobbling flashback
@swank8508
@swank8508 3 жыл бұрын
200 bpm is the speed of melee imo, its like the heartbeat
@Peanutz996
@Peanutz996 3 жыл бұрын
I wish uncle punch just told you how late/early you were. Would make practicing tech chasing and knowing what you're doing wrong twice as easy
@brlvper4
@brlvper4 3 жыл бұрын
It does
@Peanutz996
@Peanutz996 3 жыл бұрын
@@brlvper4 If it does that's a setting I haven't found, is it in the long list of on screen displays or w/e?
@cceider
@cceider 3 жыл бұрын
Reaction time is very important but see I have a severe medical condition called stupidity that makes me incapable to react properly in situations where it would give me a big advantage or win me the game
@jakezepeda1267
@jakezepeda1267 3 жыл бұрын
I also have this condition.
@NicholasSunderland
@NicholasSunderland 3 жыл бұрын
Extremely helpful
@ayden172
@ayden172 3 жыл бұрын
reject skill embrace lucky bracket pill
@jaredbowers9503
@jaredbowers9503 3 жыл бұрын
Reject luck, embrace multiple personalities pill
@Aflay1
@Aflay1 3 жыл бұрын
Love the metronome advice. That helps me in general. With everything.
@maxono1465
@maxono1465 3 жыл бұрын
what are some other examples where it helps you?
@williamomalley6081
@williamomalley6081 3 жыл бұрын
@@maxono1465 wobbling lmao
@SSB_Seal
@SSB_Seal 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice, these are some things I will have to keep in mind for sure. Thank you Spark!
@cr0wguitar
@cr0wguitar 3 жыл бұрын
Droppin that metronome tip, blew my mind!
@ccc-q8r
@ccc-q8r Жыл бұрын
Here's my math on this from going frame by frame in training mode... By the second frame of teching, tech in place fox starts to spread his legs (vs not for other techs). About 26 frames later he gets to spot dodge. Grab takes 7 frames as sheik. So on the 18th frame after being able to react you need to be pressing z. That gives about 288ms after starting to spread his legs that you can press z. If you have a 200ms reaction time there's 5.5 frames for you to judge if it looks like tech in place or not. Those five frames are all fox upside down with this legs apart (vs together for tech in). So if you can react to it before he flips up then you can tech chase? Haven't been able to do it yet but just practicing trying to figure it out
@michaelcastelpoggi1735
@michaelcastelpoggi1735 3 жыл бұрын
Great advice. Love the video, you're definitely not disappointing as the new host
@rosheafan
@rosheafan Жыл бұрын
My reaction time is very below average, so, uh, good thing I play Roy? I guess?
@CeilingPanda
@CeilingPanda 3 жыл бұрын
My ass reaction time won't help when I cant execute for shit, I would rather love perfect techskill :P and when I would have that I would need 3 frames of reactiontime >.>
@Athesies
@Athesies 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I can't see the leg split animation, (atleast not until like 10 frames into it and by then its too late.) Up until then fox's legs just look like a blur to me when he techs in place
@r0flcopter
@r0flcopter 3 жыл бұрын
Could honestly be your monitor. To be 100% honest, I (kira) have a lot of trouble doing it online, but on CRT it's much easier
@Athesies
@Athesies 3 жыл бұрын
@@r0flcopter hmm maybe you're right in a way, personally I've never been able to pull it off on my small crt but I haven't given it my all while playing on my large 120 hz capable monitor
@swank8508
@swank8508 3 жыл бұрын
get a crt monitor!
@Athesies
@Athesies 3 жыл бұрын
@@swank8508 you mean like a really old style 4-3 desktop monitor? Look i love collecting old tech but I already own a trinitron and 2 other crts, im not sure I could justify the space and cost that monitor would take up lol
@clipCommander101
@clipCommander101 3 жыл бұрын
Ive gotten pretty good at reaction tech chase due to uncle punch, but i suck at covering missed tech because i cannot for the life of me dash back out of crouch
@El_gobl1no
@El_gobl1no Жыл бұрын
That's a controller dependent issue. You have to work around it, play on a box style controller or get a controller that can.
@E-Brightvoid
@E-Brightvoid 3 жыл бұрын
Hugs Pills: Never miss a charge shot.
@umscumgamer2003
@umscumgamer2003 3 жыл бұрын
Bugs Pills: being really small
@thelacedog1915
@thelacedog1915 3 жыл бұрын
Please make the marth fsmash the pichu at the end
@SSBMTutorials
@SSBMTutorials 3 жыл бұрын
;_;
@SSB_Seal
@SSB_Seal 3 жыл бұрын
I literally think it's going to happen every time LMAO
@jacksonsmith6650
@jacksonsmith6650 3 жыл бұрын
Green pill i've been grinding young link for over a year
@jakezepeda1267
@jakezepeda1267 3 жыл бұрын
I believe in you ✊
@maxono1465
@maxono1465 3 жыл бұрын
i like the metronome tip, i really wanna try it now
@SonicMaster519
@SonicMaster519 2 жыл бұрын
Easily the green pill. Nobody is going to remember the Fox or Falco that won EVO, but everybody is going to remember the Game & Watch that got Top 5.
@donaldmcdonald3434
@donaldmcdonald3434 Жыл бұрын
IDK man I think the opposite is true. There's only like one dope Game and Watch player and I can't even remember his name but I can list plenty of fox's and falcos.
@mindupstation2484
@mindupstation2484 3 жыл бұрын
Wish there was one pill that would clone you for doubles
@skiddzie9291
@skiddzie9291 Жыл бұрын
Just so everybody knows, getting 15frames in the reaction time training in uncle punch is actually a reaction time closer to 200ms. Melee has 2 to 3 frames of input lag.
@jennith
@jennith Жыл бұрын
funny how the “reaction speeds up by 3 frames” pill looks exactly like a 30mg vyvanse
@guren_mk_II
@guren_mk_II 3 жыл бұрын
im out here with that 450ms reaction time lol
@KieraQ0323
@KieraQ0323 3 жыл бұрын
Oof
@KieraQ0323
@KieraQ0323 3 жыл бұрын
You gotta work on that bro
@ry-uw8wf
@ry-uw8wf 3 жыл бұрын
i will practice this
@Happy.Stupid.Neighbor
@Happy.Stupid.Neighbor Жыл бұрын
I cant get a frame of less then 16 on uncle punch. Am i doomed?
@712toaster
@712toaster 3 жыл бұрын
Accurate bpm ftw 🙌
@nootaboot7042
@nootaboot7042 3 жыл бұрын
bluepill in this situation is cracked
@OkamiBGT
@OkamiBGT 3 жыл бұрын
Is this applicable to characters other than just Sheik and Falcon? Like can I do this or a variant of it with Marth?
@Hyde472
@Hyde472 3 жыл бұрын
This applies to tech chasing in general, it is just that those with grabs that instantly put the enemy in a tech situation are easier to demonstrate on. (I think)
@SSBMTutorials
@SSBMTutorials 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah what Hyde said. You can do it with anyone. The only thing you want to watch out for is that tech chasing Sheik is potentially not reactable, but pretty much everyone else should be doable
@Hyde472
@Hyde472 3 жыл бұрын
@@SSBMTutorials WHEN YOU GET A RESPONSE FROM SSBM TUTORIALS AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
@Doormatt_17
@Doormatt_17 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah it's Gamer time
@DonkEssb
@DonkEssb 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah yeah yeah!
@JadenSmithEyes
@JadenSmithEyes 3 жыл бұрын
What is up Spark-Nation. it's ya boy, KZbin comments
@mikecicciari845
@mikecicciari845 3 жыл бұрын
kills me a little inside, knowing that some people can just do this instinctively without explicitly practicing it
@SSBMTutorials
@SSBMTutorials 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly don’t think there’s a single person out there who can do it instinctively.
@sg21yt
@sg21yt Жыл бұрын
@@SSBMTutorialsjmook
@georgeallen7487
@georgeallen7487 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the math on the 250ms figure.
@donovanmahan2901
@donovanmahan2901 3 жыл бұрын
Def would choose magenta. Would probably be in tournaments if I could convert better off of neutral wins.
@noisetanker4355
@noisetanker4355 3 жыл бұрын
Blue pill I want to main puff and have hbox in my head screaming BAIR BAIR USE IT BAIR
@littlemacisunderrated412
@littlemacisunderrated412 3 жыл бұрын
Damn I guess best low tier main would make me have to change mine ;)
@sg21yt
@sg21yt Жыл бұрын
Red because it’s good in other things as well
@mightylad2197
@mightylad2197 3 жыл бұрын
Pink pill. Instant TAS abilities
@Transplantuwu
@Transplantuwu 3 жыл бұрын
Ily spark+algo
@parttimenoob9886
@parttimenoob9886 3 жыл бұрын
As long as you have a reaction time of... Well, there goes the rest of the Video for me. Still watching because it's nice to repeat some of the Info for RTC, it has been a while.
@swank8508
@swank8508 3 жыл бұрын
your reaction time is good enough
@parttimenoob9886
@parttimenoob9886 3 жыл бұрын
@@swank8508 The Video literally starts with giving a Minimum, which i am considerably above (~350 ms on good days). Like, it's right there in the intro. (And yes i know about Mental stack and prepared Reactions)
@swank8508
@swank8508 3 жыл бұрын
@@parttimenoob9886 your monitor must suck or something. human reaction time really isnt that varied
@parttimenoob9886
@parttimenoob9886 3 жыл бұрын
@@swank8508 so i've been told before. And trust me, it does suck. Which is why i don't cite the 400 ms from my Monitor, but the 350 ms from a Good Quality Monitor.
@lonkster
@lonkster 3 жыл бұрын
@@parttimenoob9886 their is no actual way its that high
@drsherifff
@drsherifff 3 жыл бұрын
Green just because it's cool
@YAHPapaJohnWick
@YAHPapaJohnWick 6 ай бұрын
bro..?? FALCON KICK FOR HITBOX RECOVERY?
@whjk83921
@whjk83921 3 жыл бұрын
Well, my average reaction time is 250ms, so I can only get it half the time... good thing I play fox.
@ciarankelly3726
@ciarankelly3726 3 жыл бұрын
;_; human benchmark puts me at 300ms and i cant seem to get it lower
@SSBMTutorials
@SSBMTutorials 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh, it probably has a lot to do with your monitor
@alabdark
@alabdark 3 жыл бұрын
Pink , so I can plan a game
@latte876
@latte876 3 жыл бұрын
Either blue or pink pill. I'd like advice from people who know what they're doing, but I dunno how inconvenient a buncha voices in my head would be. Tech skill is nice, would definitely help, but it isn't everything.
@jakezepeda1267
@jakezepeda1267 3 жыл бұрын
Gimmie pink pill so I can consistently style on people with Samus without looking like an idiot.
@imbanana
@imbanana 3 жыл бұрын
Really confusing video , so all these years everyone said its barely possible to do reaction techchase and now its called easy with plenty of time to react if its not tech in place? Also barely any pro can do it consistantly? Not sure if i missunderstood this video but sounds very odd to me
@SilentVinyl
@SilentVinyl 3 жыл бұрын
neat
@yophi8275
@yophi8275 3 жыл бұрын
rhythmalgo
@Malurth
@Malurth 3 жыл бұрын
spark needs a better mic lol
@DoubleCFiend
@DoubleCFiend 3 жыл бұрын
Green is easily the worst because you could be the best player of a character and still not win anything lmfao
@mtails1427
@mtails1427 3 жыл бұрын
Blue pill for sure.
@sirtchamp8033
@sirtchamp8033 2 жыл бұрын
blue pill.
@SS4xShinobi
@SS4xShinobi 3 жыл бұрын
Reaction tech chasing is impossible 😈 until I see it done consistently, (which has yet to happen in 20 years worth of this game being out) I will continue to deny the “believers” though having a damn good tech chase it obv still very achievable and beneficial.
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