"You Sound Like a Lunatic" - AMA Derails Into Gotcha Debates

[@nexus939]

OH GOD THANK YOU RIGHT INTO MY FEEEEEEEEEED

[@cracky4415]

Inject it into my veins

[@TheLaubum]

this is disgusting

[@yagizkaraman5040]

@@TheLaubum no

[@daddydarklord]

Reminds me of Invader Zim every time. Love it.

[@qactus4031]

OOOO

[@dntnawall]

talking about gendered restrooms and some guy in chat "JUST PISS IN MY MOUTH"

[@xenusprophet3001]

The one true ally

[@BruceAlrighty1991]

1:50:03

[@ZeranZeran]

Lmao. I love the internet.

[@aarong3340]

Hey. Look. It's just easier to learn Mandarin if they separate you from your family and have an agent stay in your house in your place.

[@TheGIGACapitalist]

Canada did it- didn't work out well. Turns out ripping people from their families and trying to brainwash them in an atmosphere were the teachers see them as less than people leads to a lot of abuse

[@MultiMVirus]

I wonder if they learned from the Germans. We know very much about their language learning programs! xD

[@cracky4415]

I remember in French class when I was isolated from my loved ones. Learning curriculum is really improving, but I bet in Mandarin classes they have to really push you through it.

[@aagh8714]

i dont know what the government thinks will happen lol, tiny countries like france and the uk have giant regional differences and paris/london politicians couldnt even stomp them out, what the fuck is one of the biggest countries in the world with a population of 1 billion going to do

[@jackkraken3888]

It's even easier when you force them to have contraceptives so they don't have children. /s

[@hendog5396]

I really don’t get the CP topic outrage, it really isn’t even a hot take. Just has the words CP so people automatically REE

[@Seinglede]

Unironically true. "If, hypothetically, old child porn could be used in such a way that no child would ever be raped again would you use it?" "Durrrr.... no. CP bad."

[@lethalhigh1224]

These Pedohunters literally have the same brain cells as Qanon believers.

[@visserin]

@@widukindgaladh949 exactly, its a retarded hypothetical. How do you even respond? "Yea IF it worked sure, IF. But it seriously doesn't as etc etc". How the absolute fuck does a conversation even get to that point lmfao

[@Seinglede]

@@widukindgaladh949 This isn't even discussing the positive sides of CP, though. That's the thing. These people are REEing because he humored a hypothetical. It's the dumbest thing to get upset about on the planet.

[@bajsmongo2000]

@@widukindgaladh949 they are talking about hypotethical good sides of CP.. As far as i know there arent any good sides to CP..

[@Cycstorm]

I love how Sargon is on video telling Destiny to his face that Destiny is one of the best debaters he has ever seen, meanwhile Destiny thinks Sargon is just about the stupidest fucking guy alive.

[@josiahclarke3535]

It's called having a derangement about someone you dislike

[@bennymountain1]

Because Sargon writes off his being bodied by Destiny as being outdebated, refusing to admit that he's both wrong and can't argue his points.

[@robosoldier11]

I mean being smart isn't intrinsic to being a good debater. Yes Destiny is a good debater but the foundational logic he can sometimes come at a particular topic can be very stupid. Hence why even if your belief is stupid you can fill the gap and manipulate it to make it sound more legitimate. I mean just look at the vaush vs. destiny debate on the whole kenosha thing. I think destiny had a better foundation to argue with while vaush being the destiny Lite tried to manipulate it to sound smart and be some moral arbitrator. Which people at the time took vaush's stance more than destiny. Personally I think alot of people considered that stupid, but do others consider vaush smart or just very sly?

[@techlevel80]

@@robosoldier11 so your argument is that because Vaush is an idiot, destiny can't be smart either? I think Vaush is rubbing off on you bud

[@robosoldier11]

@@techlevel80 No. However destiny himself has moments of stupidity in his positions. Everyone does. Which is what Sargon is mentioning here. He thinks Destiny is good at crafting his message and poking at others on the fly but also has moments in his view that is ideological stupidity. I brought up Vaush since he is a close proxy to destiny when it comes to a similar vein of online engagement and is a prime example of how Vaush has adopted the destiny mold and even tried to do that with Destiny on a subject like Kenosha. Which I'm sure you can say Destiny and many others didn't find compelling but many others did and consider vaush a genius. Which again is it a question of is X person smart or just very sly?

[@Darkwarlord1533]

I've heard a lot of good things about 'The Return of the Hypotheticallly Ethical CP' Arc from manga readers. I just hope the anime lives up to the hype.

[@adamtwarowski1053]

Idk if this is a spoiler but my favorite antagonist in the Destiny manga showed up from there

[@PhobosMedia]

The 1v5 climactic battle in that arc was epic, definitely recommend 👍

[@yagizkaraman5040]

@@PhobosMedia That was the only time in my life where I not only wanted to kill myself and keep on living at the same time

[@jeremias-serus]

I can assure you that that arc is prime Destiny debates

[@ItsYaBoySkinnyPenis69420]

@@yagizkaraman5040 for real that taught me you can get exhausted by listening to dumb shit

[@joii6224]

3 mins in already a classic whew

[@chriscloud9002]

Man, what a throwback. Those CP debates were such shitfests

[@johnleoks7642]

Girl? That’s a Destiny’s name!

[@ct9700]

Do you

[@ct9700]

Love

[@ct9700]

Black people

[@jackfalcon2012]

@@ct9700 you mean: do you la bla people

[@randommz60]

Girls name

[@anungunrama9344]

A lot of these questions have me thinking "wtf did you think he was going to say"? Such dumb questions some of these are

[@westingtyler1]

​@@ATSaale i think the Kashogi thing had a clearly implied question of "what should the US do as a consequence of that happening?" which Destiny avoided or was too dense to detect.

[@MrJerkdude1]

This is why people are afraid to ask questions.

[@SpankMyEvilPenguin]

Destiny? Was expecting a cute girl in this AMA

[@AkatsukiXeno]

Steven is a girl's name.

[@fustunff2857]

beyyyta!

[@richardtyson100]

instead you got this BETA

[@lc7173]

@@fustunff2857 amazin

[@klee1348]

Amazin

[@Haiisu]

"If I continue to bully you like this then I'll be considered ableist so here take the W. Next question" By far the most savage burn I've heard in a LONG time XD

[@cringeandpunishment3140]

XDDDDDD

[@widjadija]

Time stamp anyone?

[@b.p.emma.]

x d

[@elizadoggy]

timestamp 1:00:30

[@widjadija]

@@elizadoggy what a g

[@the-renegade]

Uh-oh, "ambush debates?" Trial by combat, guys.

[@Kyle_Schaff]

I’ve been standing back and standing by for this very moment

[@downsjmmyjones101]

BLOODSPORTS!

[@efeghilmffdsee5216]

Vegain Gains approves

[@Enthusiasm441]

It's like a Greatest Hits of gotcha arguments people have used against Destiny.

[@hellraiser5671]

Lol I love that the "giving child porn to pedophiles" guys are still going at it. It's getting a little sad at this point.

[@patbau96]

>Be Destiny >Build a reputation for being a contentious debater >Have loads of obsessed haters >Get shocked when your AMA turns into gotcha debates

[@TheOneShorter]

I agree, but gotcha debates are kinda lame

[@poadude]

Wait where was he shocked? Seemed like a pretty normal AMA. Maybe watch the video?

[@PuddingXXL]

@@poadude Well looking at the title I'd say he very much put an emphasise on the shocked part.

[@sinofcringe]

05/16/2022 69 likes

[@AnimeFan9833]

First dude cares more about the concept of "increasing" a market than the actual children getting abused, nice meme.

[@retard1657]

Yeah and even was wrong about that bc u cant increase a market for old child porn since all new produced child porn isnt being used

[@sommerblume9671]

That almost made me angry and then I realised he's either challenged or trolling. Nobody sane can answer like that.

[@Anonymous00616]

No, he just wanted to "get" Destiny. If he actually cared, or maybe wasn't seething, he would have read those studies and been able to articulate why they're unconvincing in regards to the prevention of child rape. I think Destiny wouldn't have resorted to a hypothetical if it was actually reasonable to believe giving child porn to pedophiles is anything but destructive.

[@peffiSC2source]

Destiny already has a speedrun strat for that first question lol.

[@-Twotonepony-]

CP%

[@relaxed8365]

Destiny will be on his way to 2040 presidencial race, and he will still have to answer to the fucking "ethical cp" meme jesus christ

[@-Twotonepony-]

Well... Yeah. I'd assume it would ramp up quite a bit if he was running for president.

[@KingOfMalevolence]

Why is everyone so outraged about Club Penguin?

[@roymarshall_]

I like how Desiny is incapable of saying "commies" or "socialists" without ending with "dipshits"

[@pinnacull]

Me too

[@YoungGzBlitz]

He is not wrong

[@Lewa500]

It just comes naturally, you know?

[@oopsiepoopsie2898]

@@pinnacull #Metoo

[@DrkAzmodaus]

Hot Damn another banger from the Editor. And the hits just keep coming.

[@MythOfParadise]

Its the fact that I was in this discord seeing it unfold that reminded me our discord is filled with fucking garbage, also thx for answering my question :) (Btw I was the Gaytheist)

[@jackkraken3888]

That's an interesting username you have.

[@MythOfParadise]

@@jackkraken3888 Thanks, and by the way it stands for Gay atheist (not gay theist)

[@theleftywhoknocks4051]

Mtg blue? Agreed

[@MythOfParadise]

@@theleftywhoknocks4051 lol what?

[@gottfriedschickelgruber2478]

@@MythOfParadise your profile picture is jayce beleren, magic the gathering character

[@xPTKx]

This AMA was really good. Even the gotcha derailing, was really entertaining. More content like this please :)

[@Drago7166]

Honestly find it hilarious that the Destiny needs to get old video clips and have proof put into so people bitch at him less. Shout out to the editor for putting it all in. 👌

[@humerusSA]

Et tu, brute? Ceasarstiny Kappa

[@iamsheep]

This video is like those martial arts movies where the dude holding a bo staff spins it so fast, it deflects all the arrows coming his way...

[@Will-ul7rg]

Destiny... I very much enjoy your content. I love the way this video was edited. Great job!

[@Thnaraka]

These videos keep popping up straight in my feed

[@Hitsuguya5]

Destiny: "Throw me in chief" Cuts to: "Why did you say that we give child porn to pedophiles?" hahahah bravo editor bravo edit: I can't spell...

[@Theyungcity23]

The guy insisting that Destiny said he is in favor of providing cp is dumb. But Destiny trying to make a false dichotomy of you’re either in favor of providing old cp or in favor rape is totally a troll question

[@julianmain2084]

Destinys editior has been popping off with digging up details clips etc, also edits on videos are pog

[@cratoic1603]

I appreciate the timestamps editor.

[@PhobosMedia]

Lotta these callers are giving me Aydin flashbacks. I wonder if she's still telling people she's a psychologist?

[@grantlauzon5237]

Has Destiny seen her video on why conservatives are stereotyped as being unintelligent? TLDR Instead of talking about how dumb you look bringing a snowball into congress to prove global warming isn’t real or the broader anti-intellectualism she goes after actual IQ numbers that reveal almost no different between the parties. She did find a slight increase in centrists/non partisans and showed an image of Tim Pool while talking about this.

[@thatindiandude4602]

@@grantlauzon5237 what she does is Faux intellectualism. Use enough statistics and word salad to do a sleight of hand, and it gives her videos an air of respectability.

[@grantlauzon5237]

@@thatindiandude4602 Even if all her stats were right (on the video I’m talking about) it would’ve missed the point (and does on most of her vids).

[@thatindiandude4602]

@@grantlauzon5237 I guess her fans are just happy there is a female voice to soothe their fragile egos, afraid the world is just changing too quick for them.

[@Nomad_Dad]

@@grantlauzon5237 @That Indian Dude never heard of her but at the, end of the day there are complete dummies on both sides, who can forget hank johnson who was concerned that guam was going to tip over from overpopulation...

[@healingv1sion]

2:32:57 funny that he said that because I heard of a study once that empathy can be gained in childhood thru reading fiction books and being immersed in another world with characters and their problems

[@pommiebears]

I remember my son was only around 5yrs old, and he was watching Cocoon on the television. He started to cry. I asked him “Charlie, what’s up? Why are you crying?” And he said “Mummy, the old people are killing the aliens that are sleeping in those big nuts (the cocoons) and the old people are taking their lives away (meaning they were draining the life force from them). Now, my son is on the spectrum, so to see his reaction, his empathy, for these aliens, was so heartwarming to me. He’s an adult now, and still remembers the film that made him cry. Lol. I found him saving ants once…..from a puddle. 😃

[@BassticklerBoi]

Taken is my favorite documentary series!

[@RealFreedomMG]

"Why did you say we should give child porn to pedophiles" Jesus I'm not even one minute into the video. If this continues being this spicy it may have to be measured in scoville units.

[@strajkz]

The ending with Dan always gets me, will never get old.

[@strangelitgirl]

Is Dan the one at the very end saying he grew up right wing?

[@KhaalixD]

hey editor would be great if you could ad the stream date and the vod in the description again ^^

[@two-literbowls5195]

Who thought we'd be talking about the Ethical CP debate in 2021

[@SantosAl]

Is there any data about how repetitive jobs are done by people with lower intelligence? Cause as a biochemist doing repetitive lab work I feel a bit attacked.

[@SaladDongs]

Repetitve *simple* tasks is I think what he means. Like cleaning windows. I don't have the data but I'm pretty sure most smart people wouldn't limit themselves to such tasks when they have the ability to do something more with their lives.

[@knockitoffhudson3470]

I was on the right and now I'm on the left and destiny's right its two different realities.

[@heymotivator2231]

Destiny is it true you want to cut ALL homeless people in half by 2024?

[@adamyooz]

It’s ambitious but with enough big cleavers it’s possible

[@joj1758]

1:11:56 Editor thought this was gonna be a much shorter video

[@cdubsb3831]

Was prepared for an hour of destiny appearing right in my feeeeeeeed.

[@gigi3029]

When you start a destiny video and you know 2minutes in that this is gold and you are going to watch the full two hours straight up...

[@roymarshall_]

"Late-game abortions"? Really?

[@Lightningkuriboh]

30 SECONDS LEFT ON THE CLOCK WILL THE DOCTOR BE ABLE TO ABORT- OH MY GOD HES DONE IT HES WON - THE NEW CHAMPION!

[@mavejak5021]

On the edge of my seat waiting for the uyghurs conversation

[@diedforurwins]

“People are incapable of engaging with a topic that makes them uncomfortable” Amen

[@mediumski]

fast af boy

[@cracky4415]

7:07 o h

[@ZorroinArkham]

If people think Joe Manchin is doing any good, we are fucked.

[@thesuperostrich]

Joe manchin exists to hurt the democrat party

[@andrewcox5873]

Joe Manchin is a Democrat who got elected in a state that went 30 points for Trump. The only other alternative to Joe Manchin is a Republican and then Mitch McConnell is Senate leader.

[@The_passiveObserver]

Destiny, isn't that a girl's name ?

[@PittsburghSonido]

Beta girl

[@tanakanaoshi4769]

No it's groomers name ;)

[@arkadipmaitra]

Beytaaa

[@ja390es9]

amazin

[@UhhhNiko]

BEYYTAAA

[@90boyle]

Wooooooo we BACK.

[@LordVurg]

If destiny talked about why he wants to keep the electoral college in more depth could someone link it to me? i don't understand that pov at all, as i don't believe the government should represent states, only people, but i'd like to hear arguments for the other side.

[@Thedamped]

He may go into more depth here: /watch?v=yFiFXxXhTDc I agree with you, but I think it would be huge even to just reform it. It's currently way more broken than most people realize.

[@LordVurg]

@@Thedamped sweet i'll check it out

[@arisrayden]

@@Thedamped destiny said he wants to increase the number of votes, sure yes that helps but the big one was forcing the electors to always vote with the population in every state would be the big one, especially in the primaries and triply so for the democrats. only reforming the national elections but not the primaries would be pretty weak.

[@Thedamped]

@@arisrayden I believe the primaries are run under the parties and aren't governed under national law. I don't think they are related to the EC in any way. I could be wrong. In my mind the biggest problem with the EC is winner-take-all, the votes should be proportional to how the states vote. This currently causes almost the entire nat'l campaign to be focused on the few swing states. You can find maps online that are weighted based on campaign advertising and you can see that it's almost all just a few states. Also, electors shouldn't really even exist; at least they shouldn't have any agency. Only a few states force them to actually vote in line with the state, they should all be that way. There should also be fractional votes. The way it is now, you have to cross a population threshold before getting a new elector, and this causes a really prominent saw tooth pattern of how much your vote counts in the really low population states. Some people think we should give a bias towards states and not just be 100% population based, I disagree. But all those problems listed above have nothing to do with state bias and are just stupid flaws.

[@arisrayden]

@@Thedamped no you are right, the parties are private companies and this needs to change

[@roboterson]

1:11:57 You left in an old outro card sound effect lol.

[@PiPArtemis]

Glad I'm not the only one that caught that.

[@THEdominicmitchell]

every fucking time. The first question they ask is about the fucking porn shit. It's so tired.

[@ravebiscuits8721]

Hot take: with the word retard not having been used to medically or legally describe someone with learning disabilities for a while now it actually might be ok to use. Or at least soon. The word idiot also used to describe someone with disabilities (see village idiot) but it's now just an intelligence based insult. What you'd really want to disagree with is the use of any medical term as an insult. Otherwise we'll just continue to invent new words in a cycle in order to keep our medical definitions free from insulting connotations.

[@KeeperOfTheSock]

"It's like re-education schools in Canada" its almost like that is a major black stain in Canadian history and not something that anyone supports.

[@stephenward2743]

Were the questions screened at all? I don't blame Destiny but his response to half the questions were predictably ''I don't know'' because the questions were impossible to answer without gross speculation

[@paco1022]

1 min in and I got flashbacks lmao

[@justlooking1087]

Hey Destiny! I’m a fan of both you and Vaush. But then again, maybe I’m a Destiny fan who likes Vaush as opposed to the other way around 🤔, I did start watching you first.

[@idontgetthejoke4813]

Hey there, I found Vaush first and through him Destiny and I'm a fan of both now.

[@legend7951]

People love to accuse others of being pedophiles after misunderstanding what they actually meant

[@legend7951]

easier to accuse than to understand basically

[@blackmage665]

So many people have done this to Destiny, at this point there is just factually a % of them being actual pedophiles themselves.

[@4elove4ishee]

Are you the cringe guy that went first? Cringe.

[@legend7951]

@@4elove4ishee huh, lol that wasn't me

[@4elove4ishee]

@@legend7951 I mean it was worth the shot

[@kookbrah640]

Did anyone understand what the electoral college was saying?

[@yourcurtainsareugly]

The guy talking about the Electoral College? He was confusing the counting of votes via the process specified in the Electoral Count Act with the apportionment of electors in the Electoral College, and Dunning-Krugering real hard while explaining it. He seems to think that senators are somehow necessary to the approval of electoral votes; in fact, it's the opposite, as both a representative and a senator have to *object* to a certificate of electors to open debate on it, and this is completely irrelevant to Destiny's idea of having a bigger House so less populous states have a less disproportionate number of electors compared to their population.

[@DavidSmith-wr5sj]

I love your comment on social constructing. Awesome way to look at it.

[@asimplewizard]

The thumbnail is a girls name in dramatic Socrates clothing. This is gonna be a classic

[@CamKurst]

Thanks editor I only saw the end

[@doesntMetter1]

That thumbnail 👌

[@SoiledBreeches]

This is like, Destiny’s greatest hits

[@suprmeatdude]

Isn't Destiny a video game name?

[@OldChildSupport]

I remember playing it in its open BETA

[@theoverratedgamer]

@@OldChildSupport okay this one actually made me laugh out loud.

[@Rudi361]

22:24 How should I search for economic literature on migration. On which sites should I search for them? I look like an idiot but I only sometimes find some fiscal effects on migration, but this is different from the economic effects if I understood it correctly.

[@macaire2367]

Ask in his Reddit or discord

[@AnimeFan9833]

If you're looking for any kind of scientific literature, google scholar is your friend. Just type in "Economy migration", you're probably gonna find what you're looking for.

[@guusrobroeks4972]

Google scholar?

[@rastaryan7838]

www.researchgate.net/publication/297894753_The_Economics_of_Temporary_Migrations

[@rastaryan7838]

That's just one but it connects to about 80 other citations of peer reviewed papers about migration with links.

[@anudderytaccount]

Chat battling the wide peepo every time a female speaks is the funniest shit

[@mewingcat22]

This guy debating destiny at the start is ruining my name

[@stuartkeating6508]

Aydin Paladin already ruined it

[@Lightningkuriboh]

Anyone: Destiny: “I DONT KNOW THATS A HARD QUESTION”

[@humanoid8344]

Jordan Peterson 2.0

[@Lightningkuriboh]

@@thejerg dude Ik it’s just funny he said it every single time

[@HOVNA]

The Question: "How do you solve world hunger?"

[@thatyoutubechannel9953]

@@HOVNA That's not a hard question, just give people food 5head

[@hotweeb1953]

@@thatyoutubechannel9953 no thats a waste of food, make them eat themselves, boom.

[@FreeAtlas.]

Doesn’t the FBI ask the general public to help find people all the time? Like high profile murder suspects and shit and missing kids?

[@shawman7801]

wow cool ama! you just got a new fan

[@westingtyler1]

2:15:10 ascribe is the word he was looking for.

[@chriskaasa1948]

The guy talking about the electoral college... Hoooollllllyyyyy shit

[@Don_C06]

This video came right into my feeeeed thank you godstiny editor. Hope that Destiny lets you out of the basement soon

[@Don_C06]

@@ezaf5989 Are you spamming this on every comment and liking your own post? Thats sad

[@battlecast9202]

"Dumber than Tim Pool" Damn, what is this roast session?

[@RealmRabbit]

Social constructs can still have value in them, but the fact that something is socially constructed means it's less secure than something based on a truth in the world since anything that is socially constructed can basically be socially deconstructed at the whim of society...

[@spencerbuck1074]

It's been a long time but I don't really get conservative vibes from Potholer54, all I remember was he made one video called "a conservative solution to climate change". Maybe its time for a blast to the past.

[@ugandafitmor1440]

1:11:55 editor-san you scared me, don't cut steben off mid sentence!!!!!

[@smittyflufferson1299]

The golden piece of advice should be to meditate

[@gianniryansmith614]

Not sure why he calls himself “Destiny” That’s a girl’s name

[@Crissybooable]

every video

[@Khymeira]

@@Crissybooable I love it. I hope I see it in the comments of every video i watch

[@Shlumbus69]

One thing destiny doesn't consider in the child prawn stuff is that even giving them images of old child prawn is capitalizing off the exploitation of children, which is why it's illegal in the first place.

[@text8241]

He did consider it, that’s where the “Ethics board” would make the decisions about it.

[@scratchy1620]

that Australian guy at the end sounds EXACTLY like robert whitaker

[@nevetsdsa1564]

Trump's approval rating dropped from 44% to 33% after the capitol attack. My aunt is a Trump supporter and wants him to resign. A significant portion has been impacted, but no where near most republicans.

[@YemYum]

To the guy who said there were peaceful protestors inside the capital building is missing the entire point. Simply entering the building without prior authorization is a crime. Everyone who went into the capital that day without being processed and cleared was committing a federal crime. Well known journalist have to constantly be searched and cleared before entering such a building. -If only one dude snuck into the capitol, that is a major major breach of security because A.) He could have brought something in the building that was dangerous. And B.) That means the capitol was not secure from external threats that could result in a bigger catastrophe. The fact that hundreds of people entered the building without authorization is a even bigger disaster.

[@jackkraken3888]

01:36:39 Wait Snowden was 'debunked'? Since when? Anyone know more about this? Also to be clear Trump wanted to pardon Snowden for whatever reason.

[@jackkraken3888]

@I Son m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5fe13aa3c5b6ff74797c8b18/amp

[@Gloohmy]

Didn't get a notification for this video too FYI

[@piyush9100]

Good video,

[@awelkinator]

The android ringtone at 33:43 killed me

[@aa898246]

1:11:56 editor accidentally plays outro sound

[@andrewgrime8389]

Destiny's channel is getting better and better.

[@travisjones4689]

So many people can't handle hypotheticals.

[@xyleas2315]

Aye, can I order a nice tall glass of... Gender Fluid. :)

[@bohanxu6125]

is there a schedule for such Ask Me Anything events?

[@wren4077]

UH idk it might be because I'm new but I definitely got the impression that chat hates Vaush lmao For every 50 people spamming "Vaush bad" there's like three others, one of them a mod sometimes, saying something like "oh my god guys, stop picking on Vaush" or something

[@judgedbytime]

Chat should hate Vaush.

[@garrettbradford4791]

47:28 "you're more into the founding father's ideology." really? half of the founding fathers were Federalists who believed that the president should be chosen. so much for a government of representatives elected by the people

[@josiahclarke3535]

DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO

[@arthurcallahan4735]

Hes right though people are so bent to catch him in a gotcha but he never said anything they asked him about like its not hard to get Destiny's based.

[@lililillililillililillilil2116]

dunkey going into debate poggers

[@bearjack3629]

That first dude got served an uno reverse card then deleted from the game lmao