You've never heard of these Minecraft versions. Why not?

There's a mysterious KZbin channel that appears to have videos from an old Minecraft version. Yet, something is wrong. Join me as we attempt to uncover the secrets of this bizarre channel.
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[@verylostdoommarauder]

I just realized This is the most elaborate mod showcase ever.

[@bacon_with_brussels_sprout]

LOL

[@lobsermahn7262]

I was digging through ash trying to find this comment

[@lentlemenproductions770]

There’s evidently a lot of competition.

[@s8wc3]

Imagine if we were actually in 2010-2012 right now. The hype would be insane

[@Tusk_Always]

TRUE

[@hiphyro]

i love how this arg just destroys the common trope of herobrine-esque creepypasta by inserting a spooooooky shadowy figure from the beginning and then swiftly explaining that they're just the devs trolling

[@GustavoGomes-nn5np]

The devs: we do a little tomfooleru

[@oNovais]

I really like how still creppy, like “what the f*** they trying to do? Doesn’t seen like just trolling but a little more, really well thought

[@Grassie_D9938]

@@oNovais, I agree

[@justblueonly]

it was just a little trolling

[@quaelgeist3337]

I actually expected it to somehow bind in herobrine as the skin of one of the devs, maybe thrown out Especially with that it mentions you shouldn't try getting rid of sightings of them and instead talking to mojang, the original pasta had mentions of the sighters post being deleted and a message by herobrine to stop was why we found out the name

[@giuseppepintus2516]

I love how there is no scary monsters or any actual threat and it's just some devs screwing around and trying to scare players, I actually felt more intrigued than scared.

[@Cptn.Viridian]

What I really like about this ARG is how believable it is. Usually ARG's go off the rails with alternate dimensions, God's or creators or sentience in the game, but this is downright realistic. With all the weird ideas Notch and Mojang we're throwing around at the time, a hub world connected by random doors seems like the kind of thing they would try. The random boss and chunk names also seem like something, esspecially if they took Minecraft down a slightly more rpg route than they did. It being developed by a separate team, whether within or outside of Mojang also seems reasonable, esspecially with the forked versions and admins recruiting. Such a compelling yet grounded base, sprinkled with a little bit of mystery, even if there is very little "game" or it is already complete, the idea itself is just really intriguing, especially to a nerd like me.

[@onlyhereformoney175]

hell, it's so mysterious it might actually be real.

[@joshuawiener5003]

@@onlyhereformoney175 You know an ARG is good if it starts making you question reality itself

[@MrRhombus]

This is why this is my favourite ARG

[@fnytnqsladcgqlefzcqxlzlcgj9220]

notch talked about having doors generate in peoples worlds that take you to multiplayer back when multiplayer was being added, i vividly remember my sister reading it to me and us talking about how cool it would be to find the doors, but if the game ever got popular that there would be too many doors

[@JS27982]

lolllllllllllll that aged like milk 💀@@fnytnqsladcgqlefzcqxlzlcgj9220

[@TheKnewGreg]

I love how much this feels like an actual version of old Minecraft. Old Minecraft has always felt kind of "off" to me, and I've always liked the vibes its given.

[@randomcamera746]

I see what you mean. I have played older versions of Minecraft before, and, yeah, it is unsettling.

[@randomcamera746]

I mostly think this because of the bright green foliage, the flailing arms, the machine gun-like bows, the monoliths, the very different textures of some blocks, and the different AI of mobs, and also the lack of mobs. Old Minecraft is so interesting to me, and so different from the modern Minecraft I am used to, and that is why I often come back to play it every now and then.

[@astererratum6546]

I loved old Minecraft. I still have Alpha on my computer that I go back to sometimes. Edit: anyone else remember the old X's adventures in Minecraft? I used to watch all his videos. Wouldn't have gotten Minecraft if not for him. Glad he found the old seed. I love that world.

[@nightigal]

For me the further back your go in Minecraft versions the more haunted the game feels. The lack of any of any other living beings adds to the sense of isolation.

[@SmokeyEdits]

@@nightigal between the near-emptiness of the worlds without other living creatures and the distinct lack of music for like 90% of the time you're playing, it really does just feel like a dead planet or something

[@plazmasyt]

Of all the ARGs I've ever seen, this one is actually kinda interesting to me considering the authors are willing to go the lengths of making complete "old" alpha versions of the game just for people to dig around

[@ashirii8347]

yeah for real, especially with multiplayer when all things considered multiplayer is hard to implement, especially with all the weird new features

[@jacobwilks9204]

@@Frey74. RGN, not RTG

[@jacobwilks9204]

@@Frey74. it's OK!

[@MechaKnuckles]

@@Frey74. I'm wondering if the code correlating to a number 7 from just slightly earlier in the video is connected to the Fragile codes.

[@exist4046]

I'm actually super excited about this stuff, the actual mystery to it is incredibly cool imo, and I love that it's not JUST horror stuff.

[@cheezkid2689]

The multiplayer version is the most insane to me because the camera being actively blocked proves, at least in my mind, that there was truly another player on the other end there, probably the ARG runner who had access to the server somehow. Really, really cool.

[@Bulblorb]

the arg runner may be one of the server players

[@davidiles3341]

25:49 RGN:"We hear a door open and close several times, although there is no door nearby" Player: *opens door*

[@Bulblorb]

Ikr

[@mine4114-rc7nu]

Not a good look for him lol

[@StickSony]

master volume:

[@Lousfw]

Think he meant player

[@VexorCz]

thats bc ur sounds were low if you put them higher you can hear door opening and closing 2 times in background (i know its year but whatever)

[@a-ragdoll]

these minecraft versions look like something i would see in a dream, like the textures look so weird but familiar and the new features are so random, like the crystals in the air and giant boss battles

[@kice1102]

you have no idea how much i relate to this. My minecraft dreams feel so nostalgic and fresh at the same time. Basically exactly what you described.

[@postmortemguitar]

I love those alpha version textures. It looks so relaxing.

[@Doofing_Cookies]

I’ve seen the exact thing before seeing this video. Creepy af when ur the person in the video and you see, feel, and know everything they see

[@trollyface6640]

ikr right especially when things disappear when u look away from them.had dreams where entire mountains turned into hills when i looked for a couple of seconds away from them.

[@Doofing_Cookies]

@@trollyface6640 ye

[@pepsiman7453]

I think this is the most ominous and creepy way to pull off a video game ARG or anything meant to be scary. It isn't just gore on the screen, it's a demo that seems like lost game play that's JUST off. It's truly like entering another universe and it had me on edge the whole time, I love it

[@RyanTosh]

Yeah, a sort of uncanny valley effect. Where what's wrong isn't just, there, you have to kind of look for it (maybe subconsciously) and that's what makes it scary

[@masnousonia]

Then you will LOVE Petscop. It's an ARG about a lost PS1 game that wasn't finished, but everything in it just feels off, without needing of unnecessary jumpscares, persecutions, etc... that we all are tired of. It's just scary, or has this uncanny aura. I really recommend watching all the videos going blind and then watching and analysis or smth like that.

[@gassug2]

that's psychological horror (and by extension, mundane horror). there's nothing overtly creepy, but you're left throughout the entire video feeling that something is wrong, even if you don't know what it is

[@FallingMoonXoffical]

@@gassug2 that’s my favorite kind of horror honestly

[@gassug2]

@@FallingMoonXoffical same. it's a lot more visceral and lingering than the shock you'd get from a gory scene or a cheap jumpscare.

[@poppythemerpasaur]

Several times during this ARG I was wondering if I missed the memo and this was an actual version. That's how realistic it is. That's the sign of a fantastic ARG.

[@mf6610]

This feels like a temporal leakage from an alternate universe where RubyDung was more developed before it became Minecraft.

[@melody5296]

Interesting fact: The title was changed from "The Story of AlphaVer: A Minecraft Mystery" to "What are the Minecraft Lilypad versions?" and then to "You've never heard of these Minecraft versions. Why not?".

[@RetroGamingNow]

yes sometimes it takes me a few tries to get the right title. this one took more tries than usual haha

[@Ali-sj7kx]

@@RetroGamingNow I recognize some textures shown in the video. I have a faint memory of them. I remember them from the time I used cracked and Minecraft bootlegs that were present on the app store which are by now gone. I used to play one of them, I believe the name was Crafting and Something j don't remember. I especially recognize that new window block texture from it.

[@benjaminsmit781]

@@RetroGamingNow i honestly thought you just this was real bc of it, but the current title worked and got me to click

[@bumblebeegamerreal]

@@RetroGamingNow That title could've been used for the MCPE Developer edition The scariest thing about this video is how most of this is real. Except, you replace the alpha versions with the developer editions. Even more shocking, the anti leaking policy seems to exist for the developer edition. The difference is that instead of something ominous happening, you will be greeted with a copyright strike by the actual Mojang company

[@uRDM]

slander

[@TheGuy45]

That scene where the guy walks out behind his house and finds the "window" blocks had me so fucked up; a complete subversion of expectation and suspense, i've never been so had in my life. Top quality horror scene, this whole thing's nuts

[@greenwoolreadmyabout3410]

Fucking terror, it was probably staring behind him without him knowing.

[@Lance-The-BoS-Lancer]

fucking scary

[@Markm8]

And you can feel the “what the fuck” the dude playing is feeling so well qcted

[@yima3628]

Was the player being watched?

[@rogeriacoelho2989]

I was hoping the would go in

[@handsomeburrito9026]

This ARG stands out to me for one reason and that's "change" when you keep watching these videos the developers make the game unrecognizable meaning that the more features they add the less Minecraft is recognizable like it's slowly changing into something else

[@sleepy-fc6rf]

I think the notion of the hub world area is actually a really cool concept. Probably impossible to realize, but it'd be so awesome to be able to just slap a lever down next to a door and be able to hop into your friend's world, or even a complete stranger's world. People would have so many cool memories of making friends in the hub and building up each other's worlds. God, can you imagine?

[@fatalbert2055]

I really like how the versions slowly “mutate” in a way, looking less and less like Minecraft as the updates continue

[@ShayceeRuth]

475 likes, and NO REPLIES? I am gonna fix this problem

[@keadraws]

Yea I can see that it’s pretty interesting

[@jacobwilks9204]

For me, it's not really scary, but it's cool.

[@fatalbert2055]

@@jacobwilks9204That’s definitely the case for me too, I don’t really think it’s meant to be scary in the first place, more so intriguing

[@typicalgalaxy087]

An idea this video gave me is that someone could make an ARG on the same premise to hype up a massive mod or something. Following a “what if” scenario like this.

[@blitzsnap]

The first version where a shadow player was seen was Alpha 1.0.16_02, which is the same version where Herobrine was seen. That could mean the version unintentionally went public and the Herobrine was just another shadow player. I know this is just an ARG and Herobrine was just a creepypasta, but it´s so cool to see these stories overlap and give us somewhat of a backstory to Herobrine

[@hevnet]

Exactly, i just couldn't help myself but note that the versions match, what if Herobrine was actually one of the devs goofing around? What if the guys behind the ARG intentionally chose this version? There are so many possibilities when you add Herobrine into the mix.

[@a_d_z_y__]

@@hevnet I think this whole ARG started as a "what if we did our own Herobrine headcannon"

[@lpfan4491]

I like how it would theoretically make sense of the "removed herobrine"-meme in the minecraft canon. The goofball was just getting banned from the game every single update and somehow managed to return and that changelog detail was actually for the secondary branch of MC and not the mainversions.

[@unclejoe9660]

i really love the idea that the very first Herobrine spotting could have genuinely been real, and that all of the fiction that came after was inspired by that real event.

[@huguerjacques6352]

So Herobrine is just a dev trolling aswell😂

[@backbonepictures78]

I love how this doesn’t really have any jump scares, something args have a hard time staying away from

[@RegalRoyalWasTaken]

I love the idea that this is all building up to the release of a full version of this alternate MInecraft for people to enjoy. It feels less creepy and more just plain interesting, and I'm here for it.

[@ProGremlinPlayer]

This has to be the most high effort Minecraft ARG I have seen in a very long time, if not ever. Huge props to the guy or people who run the ARG and channel.

[@gshsingt8856]

legit been thinking if it could have been real. haha.

[@TauTauofSkalga]

had to make another minecraft

[@Rhodare]

@@TauTauofSkalga I only really thought about that just now, damn

[@ethanfanelli]

I strongly disagree with your existence

[@cheerio456]

@@ethanfanelli I am displeased that you are currently still inhaling air on the same planet as me

[@hollowbonesjones]

I like that the versions in this series are JUST off enough to feel eerie. They seem normal, but uncanniness is off the charts. It's scary without using horror/arg tropes.

[@Secrets17x]

This comment has 452 likes, which just so happens to be the seed used for a world by another KZbinr in an attempt to find "that thing" which is supposedly another arg. I'd call this fact spooky if I was unaware of the observer effect. EDIT: At least it did when I commented, lol.

[@beforelifewaschaos]

@@Secrets17x some of us get some personal messages from life sometimes. fading away into different situations, but for special people of us, they deliver something right as they appear in our life. Maybe this is a personal lead for you 🤔

[@AsymmetricalCrimes]

@@beforelifewaschaos This exactly. I remember one time I saw a shlong and it was exactly 96 days before I crafted my first schlong.

[@reality1010]

It has a similar eerie effect as Half-Life's eerieness.

[@MothmanOfficialWva]

@@reality1010idk it feels to me like a situation where the devs have no clear direction, so they all just do their own thing that don’t fit the game at all, hence adding to the eerieness of it

[@ifutsetiabudi5135]

How well this ARG story tells and how this channel explains without emphasizing that the fact this is just work of fiction did really take my attention. At first i wasn't believe this was just an ARG or Creepypasta. The experience while watching the whole video took me back the good old days where i still believe that Creepypasta stories were real. Thank you for the presentation RGN! You really did a great job in this video.

[@renoma111]

I... Actually loved those tracks,they have a weird style that appeals me somehow. Especially the drums in lemuria sounds like someone is hitting some random objects with the stick,and it doesnt keep going in set Intervals,it felt pretty random,kinda creepy but also exciting.

[@Traayblox]

The people who worked on this ARG deserve more respect. THEY MADE A LITERAL SOUNDTRACK

[@nts0n]

More than that, not only are there the playable preview versions but all of the versions in the videos seem to be real playable versions as well. There is an actual dev team working on an alternate reality version of alpha Minecraft. The versions in the videos exist out there somewhere. Crazy.

[@caseymorgan9802]

I think at least 3 of them are FIRE

[@kalynallen4431]

Most of them are *F* *I* *R* *E*

[@flamepillarrengoku]

Listening to the music from this version, I am very glad at the music C418 produced, if it had been slightly different minecraft could’ve been very eerie, even scary, compared to the relaxing and soothing music C418 produced

[@Redddragon]

well yeah i mean this is an ARG

[@darkido-minus6587]

Rengoku be watching ARGs in his spare time. Lmao

[@CanidRose]

With the sense of isolation in an unfamiliar world Minecraft already invokes, I think the music by C418 is one of the factors preventing it from being outright eerie. Especially in older versions (or maybe it's just I was younger) I could easily get creeped out playing single player. I think it's kind of like the Myst effect; your solitude is only tacitly implied, and in a world that looks at least somewhat occupied, until your solitude is confirmed you'll always be looking over your shoulder.

[@Captain_Cashies]

Minecraft is a horror game anyway, change my mind

[@chewy99.]

Yeah the music from these versions are pretty creepy.

[@eyeballsoup7310]

Man the mystery I want solved is who the composer for all this is, I’d unironically listen to a fair amount of these tracks. Have some time stamps 20:55 Hidden Den 21:05 Lemuria 21:35 moon2 / fjord 21:51 Norway 22:11 Sadway 28:08 Ballroom Pianist 28:23 Nordic Sanctuary 32:13 R.O.S.T.R.U.M 32:26 Pattern Ponder 32:38 Faux Divinity

[@miiviscerator]

you never expect this level of creativity from minecraft args but i am genuinely impressed with how in depth this is

[@arthur1zero1]

god damn this is so epic. people making what's essentially a series of mods of alpha Minecraft with multiplayer, new mechanics, and even an OST, for an ARG? this is legitimately incredible, hats off to the people behind this whole thing, whoever they are. and, of course, hats off to you, RetroGamingNow. your content is amazing and your coverage of this mystery is no exception. with such high quality, you deserve way more popularity than what you have now.

[@ErtugrulOzdemir-mf1gl]

yeah, I am really amazed they even uploaded the jar files to the public

[@chewy99.]

What if it isn’t?

[@ErtugrulOzdemir-mf1gl]

it *is* made to look like it is real, that is the whole point of arg's (alternate reality games)

[@3mpt7]

Hmm. It is A blue shiny thing. Shall I touch it, or pole with a stick?

[@jacobwilks9204]

I *NEED* those textures!

[@thatonecrimsonecho]

The idea of taking something so long lost and forgotten like RubyDung and implementing it into an ARG of it's successor is a truly amazing concept to me

[@TheFloodFourm]

Yea the dude who wrote this knew exactly what to include to get the people who have read hundreds of minecraft creepy pastas

[@scoper7897]

i cringed hard for 3 min then disliked video and cant watch more xd

[@scoper7897]

@@Nirroir ok zoomer

[@rattfish]

@@scoper7897 bro still living in 2019

[@senyaiv]

@@rattfish typical russian

[@RetroGamingNow]

Part 2 has been released! Watch it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/foqzl2eroL2Motk

[@deIuxe]

based

[@KixaYutacha]

Balls itch

[@fightingtable]

You should pin this fr

[@chilidog2469]

I actually enjoy the concept of doors to other worlds, it reminds me of how in terraria you can bring items from a world to another world

[@chilidog2469]

*when i started playing minecraft I wanted that to be the case, because there are times where I want to try something on a world other than my main and I can’t without copying it

[@chesapeakedproductions3009]

Another interesting Minecraft mystery. These recent Minecraft mystery explanation videos have been very interesting lately

[@dodonixx953]

They have

[@iamarizonaball2642]

I like to think this is an alternate Minecraft timeline, where at one point, the timeline diverges. I wonder what would 1.16.5 look like?

[@indigoselinger1640]

Not even a mystery, he’s wifies

[@jackmorass]

@@iamarizonaball2642 I suppose that somewhere in time this stopped. Or if not, I suppose that even some developers doesn't know about it. But it woud be a nonsense, why continue to develope a minecraft version that cannot be buy, even considering that there are a very few players that are still playing from that times to now

[@TheCheeseGladiator]

@@jackmorass Your grammar, It would be a nonsense. Go to literature school, but it would be a nonsense. "Cannot be buy" what were you on.

[@kapatidtomas]

Honestly, the effort put into this is literal fire, imagine making a Minecraft ARG but then just to also make a standalone modded version of a Minecraft version for that ARG. Literal dedication

[@FunAngelo2005]

Yup

[@alarmy5211]

@@CRACKBONE7317 metaphorical dedication

[@rogue8146]

multiple versions

[@calebcrouch6133]

Literally literal fire dude literally for real

[@onegalaxyboi]

reminds me of petscop

[@hexagonist23]

This ARG must have taken a lot of effort to make. The amount of programming and worldbuilding required.

[@RobertTheFoxxo]

This is incredible dedication for an ARG A whole server, ties to Rubydung, anomalies happening to said server, new versions... I don't think I've seen a more immersive ARG outside of IRL ones (Bill Cypher Statue, Cicada or whatever)

[@bigotis9042]

There's just something so creepy about the alpha days of Minecraft

[@CrimsonJewel]

Probably because of "Liminal Spaces" or something. Nostalgic things tend to be quite eerie, for some reason.

[@moongoosdingleberryjr.3899]

The foggy atmosphere and quiet nights and you're just all alone noone to play and noone to talk with you but *are* you?

[@CrimsonJewel]

@@moongoosdingleberryjr.3899 I- 😳

[@moongoosdingleberryjr.3899]

@@CrimsonJewel you know those old days in Minecraft you're all alone at the cave seeing diamonds and you got up the surface and there's nobody you can share it to, and you explored the world and see some beautiful mountains and again you have noone to show it to, back then you are all alone, alone in the vast wilderness and it's eerie atmosphere and you just recently heard about herobrine and made it even more creepier while mining. I experienced that too expecting some figure with white eyes randomly showing up behind you but there is nothing, you tried to go up back the surface thinking something is chasing you but there's nothing, you are just alone in this old wasteland and then you learned how to join multiplayer and you're in peace again but remember it will always be inside you following every single one of your moves he will *find* you

[@CrimsonJewel]

@@moongoosdingleberryjr.3899 Oh my. Yeah I guess.

[@tpd1864blake]

The early versions are so similar to Minecraft at the time they’re almost indistinguishable, but then over time it just gets more and more modified until it’s just a fever dream of random features. I wonder what the motivation is supposed to be for implementing these features

[@SuperSmashDolls]

Every copy of Minecraft is personalized

[@RegalRoyalWasTaken]

It seems like some attempt to create a more RPG-like Minecraft experience, maybe?

[@Neptunequeen42]

I mean, the children who make minecraft ARGs don't understand game design. They see minecraft updates as 'adding a bunch of random features'. So trying to make an 'alternate' development path just ends up looking like a bunch of cool ideas by 12 year olds.

[@craftman_yt]

@@Neptunequeen42 So you're saying, *THIS* ARG was made by children?

[@shanedog5059]

@@Neptunequeen42 clearly theyre not children. i have no idea what made you think they are. im pretty sure these guys just wanted to have fun with it and it works, the effort they put into this arg is amazing.

[@phoebus86]

That fact that they had to make a minecraft clone for an arg is truly incredible.

[@revvilo]

I believe the strange undulating thing that DJP uncovers is a cube-shaped item drop that is colliding with the slab he's standing on top of. The rotation of the item drop causes the effect as one corner rotates around and disappears into the slab, the opposing corner is revealed. The darkness of the item seems to back up this theory too.

[@iamarizonaball2642]

I like to think this is an alternate Minecraft timeline, where at one point, the timeline diverges. I wonder what would 1.16.5 look like?

[@Crazylom]

Can't wonder, but the split definetly seperates us from minecraft Mojang still owns

[@jacobwilks9204]

I wonder what would replace the Nether and End in Lilypad MC. And the mods would be interesting too. What would this game's version of the Aether be? And would Steve and Alex get their own Lilypad alternates (or replacements)? What would happen if those alternates met their base game counterparts? What would the Ender Dragon look like in this game? Or would it be a completely different final boss? (Probably a new boss.) There's so many questions to be asked.

[@iamarizonaball2642]

Why not ask the creators of the ARG and fans to team up and make more alternate versions

[@MrRhombus]

@@jacobwilks9204 From what I remember it is supposed to be more like or is “Ruby Dung”, not Minecraft So Minecraft Concepts don’t feel 100% at home here

[@herobrinegreek9493]

Litteral hell.

[@evil778]

"The developer builds several upside-down Ts in the world" Oh, RetroGamingNow, you're so innocent!

[@TatOneSqueakyKid]

Lol i was just about to comment about the upside down Ts

[@evil778]

@@TatOneSqueakyKid That has happened to me a few times.

[@Neoln]

I love upside down T’s

[@bumbleprime7713]

It was probably to be kid friendly or something

[@evil778]

@@bumbleprime7713 I know, I just wanted to make a joke out of it.

[@Froggediah]

I like how this is just Notch being a bit more edgy with making Minecraft

[@razorslazor6021]

What a ride. The way that the "new" versions are just off enough to be unsettling at the beginning, and it all flowing so well. I hope you make a follow up on this once we know more. I need to know more

[@theromansculpture8515]

This explains the original herobrine image. And i honestly find it 1000 times more creepy to know that the devs were working on joining peoples private worlds and screwing around. This makes the initial tale of herobrine far more believable and a gazillion times more terrifying.

[@ugochanneltv5600]

i CAN understand why this is kept secret. Because they can be accused of spying others

[@tank-person]

The posts on the forum being deleted and the herobrine account telling them to stop also makes sense, because they wanted to keep it secret. It also makes sense how the devs let the herobrine legend circulate instead of immediately debunking it, because it kept them from finding the real explanation for the legend. But, it’s just an arg, even though it fits really well.

[@Fiery919]

It’s makes sense since the herobrine sighting was on version 2

[@acetown2263]

y'all know this is fake just like herobrine right?

[@noentiendonothing]

@@acetown2263 Yeah, they're just pointing out how they connected this ARG with the Herobrine creepypasta and made it make sense within the context of the ARG.

[@cd7677]

I thought "oh great, another shadowy figure scary story" and then it got really good, like, i legit could've believed all of this some years ago, all the detail to make it credible amd realistic is amazing

[@smiletom199]

Right? But one thing did seem kinda sus as I was watching, and that is the icons on the desktops in the clips where Windows could be seen, with the games that at the time this would have been set into would be very common for many gamers, as well as how they would be set up in the corners with the rest of the desktop clean, many people used to do this as I remember, kind of a style. Something about this struck me as being too out of place and in a way almost too good to be true and it kind of ruined and at the same time enhanced the immersion for me, maybe there is some merit to this.

[@cd7677]

To me what got me out of immersion was the recording software, i remember at the time, software like camtasia, that was really tacky and recorded at little less than 30 frames, it seems way too good to be true, maybe it was just what i remember being less good thag it used too

[@smiletom199]

@@cd7677 true, the high quality and framerate of some of these seems a bit too out of place, too modern.

[@khlobbia]

I had no idea this was fake until I got to the comments section

[@greenwoolreadmyabout3410]

ARG

[@Yulianti-br2dc]

32:37 faux divinity Is fire 💀💀🔥🔥💯💯

[@tacofitness1876]

100% was expecting that "don't run unsafe JAR files" comment to transition into a sponsor

[@anonymous_moose]

At first, this honestly felt like a re-imagining of the story of Herobrine, with the initial video even resembling the Herobrine sighting screenshot. Things soon spiraled into something much greater and far more intriguing and I couldn't be happier for it.

[@AlexT-34]

You realize that the first video is the same version as the herobrine sighting

[@beelzemobabbity]

Thats what i was hoping, like “herobrine was real he was another shadow player infultrating into the main game”

[@synexiasaturnds727yearsago7]

@@beelzemobabbity I like to imagine that if this is true, this means Herobrine is just one of the devs working with Notch to do some of that funny)

[@PeeperSnail]

One thing of note: The ammount of shadow players that joined the server that the Discord users set up... It's a LOT of people, many more than the original 7 devs.

[@hiphyro]

I assumed it was alts

[@a_d_z_y__]

It's the dev's smurf accounts

[@soup2865]

Really goes to show how much sound and formatting affects the tone of a video. Inherently this isn’t a very creepy ARG, it’s really just like a hypothetical story if RubyDung continued in production. Jesus christ it’s polished as fuck though

[@novie.9]

29:53 The second text message I believe is latin. I do not speak fluent latin, but using google translate (which isn't very reliable) can give some answers. Having the text run through google translate, the original latin (lorem ipsum dolor sit amet) loosely translates to "the internet itself is a pain". (of course, this may mean nothing, as latin is sometimes used as fluff)

[@hillclimbracingcenter1987]

Its just a text often posted for testing purposes, you should not try to seek additional meaning.

[@timbledon32]

​@@hillclimbracingcenter1987 well yes but it's not an inaccurate claim lol

[@athar_adv]

Lorem Ipsum is also a random paragraph generator, it might just be spam lol

[@SDEST.]

This ARG actually made good music, and is acually pretty realistic. They even went out of their way to make a full on game.

[@randomketchuppacket9537]

I'm curious how this game would be if they kept updating it

[@ronin_herobrine]

@@randomketchuppacket9537 I myself want to see where this version goes, as I am enjoying it. Quite a lot.

[@MatthewT394]

@@ronin_herobrinepeople can essentially make mods or open source versions for people to use. it's quite interesting.

[@ronin_herobrine]

@@MatthewT394 Open source versions, you say?

[@MatthewT394]

@@ronin_herobrine yeah, just let the public mod it for themselves. maybe expand upon the game's already shown concepts

[@quietsamurai1998]

I have no idea why, but the most unsettling part of this whole thing is the sand texturing. It feels so cursed.

[@tperm99]

because its sand 😁

[@smallgoron3132]

it's coarse and rough and it gets everywhere

[@ThetThip]

@@smallgoron3132 i feel like i heard that from somewhere

[@novameowww]

@@ThetThip star war

[@ThetThip]

@@novameowww oh

[@RandomGaming94]

13:17 “the developer builds several upside down T ‘s in the world” that line made me laugh so hard💀

[@Fernsaur]

I love the texture changes! They look eerie and uncanny! It kinda tickles a specific part of the brain, since you are so used to the original textures. Especially the furnace and the creeper. Those really make me feel something weird.

[@the_blocktophus]

Especially since they where changed slowly, version by version Feels like minecraft was mutating into this weird funky version

[@wenomeyouindesama6027]

Uncanny mean realistic and it is the actual meaning of it

[@kronalord3764]

@@wenomeyouindesama6027 here is a secret about language if a majority of people use a word wrong then it becomes correct if a bunch of people use a fake word then it becomes real language is a living thing and a changing one too

[@sexhaver32_31]

honestly feels like something you would see in a modded game tbh

[@ketaminepoptarts]

@@wenomeyouindesama6027 no it means something that looks real, but not enough. for example a robot designed to look human

[@blockoutenvycatt]

i dont know if im right,but i have the feeling that this minecraft (or rubydung) arg is based on norse mythology. from the almost nordic names of giants and chunks,the ost and the fact that most of the gameplay videos happen in snowy areas. hell even the wierd hub world tower,wich could be a reference to yggdrasil,which connects the realms (hubs) together. call me crazy but thats just the vibe it all gives me.

[@irisinthedarkworld]

also the tracks called norway and fjord

[@MechaKnuckles]

@@irisinthedarkworld Don't forget "Nordic Sanctuary".

[@yammers7496]

I think this is a great theory but to me the Nordic song titles were made to be the oposite to the game track Sweden in Minecraft

[@derpanator5671]

@@yammers7496 yeah i agree norway was definitely meant to be a direct opposite of sweden

[@smellface_]

@@yammers7496 I thought so at first but I think there is more to it than just a reference to Sweden, considering the other Nordic/Scandinavian details present in this arg

[@ChipsDaCat]

My favorite Minecraft ARG was the Mark101 ARG. Creepy, yet interesting. I think it could be a good movie.

[@user-hw2tg5bt1d]

Hands down the most interesting Minecraft ARG i’ve ever seen, goes to show you don’t need to go paranormal with your story to make it scary

[@temmiedestructo7309]

I really like how this story develops. The very beginning closely resembles the Herobrine myth with a creepy player hiding in the old versions of the game, but then it develops into this intricate and very elaborate ARG with actual game files where people got to interact with the people who made it. It's a great concept paired with excellent execution, and it's an interesting twist since stories like this tend to slowly embrace paranormal behavior as more information on the story is revealed. Flipping that sort of trope on its head by slowly becoming more and more believable (while still remaining unexplainable and mysterious) isn't easy, but it does so, and I love it.

[@Afish8me2china]

I have a theory in why the updates were broke off: Minecraft was sold, so Mojang wanted their own version of Minecraft that they could sell off for money, and still have a version different enough for them to own it

[@masonsykes2240]

@Kyle Saurus Alternate timeline, maybe? IDK

[@ghostgodyoda6148]

I know I am late but I don't think this is what happened since these versions were made in 2010 and Minecraft was sold in 2014 but a good theory

[@Th3cosmic_]

@@ghostgodyoda6148 that's why the oldest versions were similar to normal minecraft, while the newest versions were so different

[@lightningkitten]

@@Th3cosmic_ i think that would still be anachronistic

[@ThugHunter-cw7lc]

My Favourite ARG. It's Something I Always Thought Of - What If There Is A Cut Version Of Minecraft Which Is Way Different Than What We Got? I Remember Being Young And Making Up Stories About Lost Versions Of The Game

[@SEBithehiper945]

I was browsing through Mincraft Alpha 0.1.16’s community tab and then I saw a download link for a file called “OST_2”, I downloaded it and it was password protected. It was made on 6:31 AM at 8th July 2022 in Europe (where I live). Where in Europe you may ask… …I don’t know.

[@sammyclassicstarfoxfan9827]

I love how this ARG sort of revives the feeling of old minecraft, and not knowing what is lurking in the games code, or what to expect.

[@brennangifford3972]

I think part of the mystery lies in the fact that these were alpha versions, where how the textures (and the game itself even) was different than what we are used to today. Thanks so much and I look forward to your uploads Retro!!!

[@fiend-ish1090]

i love how authentic this all feels, esp the new textures. it has the style of og mods like twilight zone, which makes the whole thing so much more believeable and a little nostalgic

[@Mitsunee_]

this video showed as 12 minutes long in the recommendations sidebar. I was playing with some puzzles while listening and didn't look at the clock, turns out I'm 20 minutes into a 47min long video. Definitely gonna finish this later :3

[@anaveragefern]

The custom blocks made for this ARG actually look pretty cool. I'd actually like it if that window block from when we see the "obstruction" guy and the hub world blocks were added to the official game.

[@DFWRailVideos]

I may try to extract the jar and obtain the textures to add them to a Minecraft mod I’m making. Not sure.

[@jironamos7650]

@@DFWRailVideos I already believe the ARG dudes are making that mod.

[@Corvillious]

39:26 I'm thinking that maybe instead of just having random iron doors in the world that go to the hub, they wanted to spice it up by making it an actual structure so it was more recognizable so people would just be like "oh yeah that goes to the hub." it also probably be easier to find at that point. Overall this is a really cool ARG tho

[@jacobwilks9204]

Good idea!

[@tonypeppermint5329]

That is a good point.

[@haka-katyt7439]

Considering the way the ARG is presented maybe it could be head-canoned in?

[@cir3875]

The hub😏

[@zye.]

@@cir3875 🤨

[@thinedave]

I keep coming back to this video just because of how much effort was put into both the series and this documentary. I love it

[@Narteketh]

"developer builds several upside-down Ts" 💀

[@Alium4060Obero]

28:46

[@Narteketh]

What about it

[@dodonixx953]

We love them minecraft ARG! Why are they so good? I don't know but your coverage off them is equally comprehensive and fun.

[@microwavebrain1035]

Hush it’s funner for me to pretend it’s real

[@dodonixx953]

@@microwavebrain1035 my bad

[@dodonixx953]

@@microwavebrain1035 We love them minecraft mysteries! Why are they so good? I don't know but your coverage off them is equally comprehensive and fun.

[@chasethemaster3440]

Facts

[@-FutureTaken-]

1. thereisnoarg Joke alert here

[@KittenKatja]

There have been splits in Minecraft's development multiple times. 1.8 came before 1.7.9 and something between 1.8.3 to 1.8.7 came before 1.7.10. (At the time, I thought "Why update 1.7 further?")

[@Capdukeymomoman]

clearly they wanted a minceraft version to have 10 "versions" of it

[@SweetEiche]

that's, only partially true. snapshots of 1.8 did start coming out in jan '14, before 1.7.10, but the full release of 1.8 only came on sep 2 '14, months after 1.7.10 (jun 26 '14) was released. *only counting full releases and not snapshots, there was no overlap between 1.7.x's and 1.8.x's release dates.* sorry for nitpicking i just don't want ppl seeing something half-true in a youtube comment and taking it as fact lol

[@KittenKatja]

@@SweetEiche I only recounted events I saw available in the Minecraft Launcher, not when they should have been available according to the wiki.

[@windowsxseven]

@@SweetEiche wow. tell me you use reddit without saying you use reddit. zero awareness

[@nicodianime]

There was a post I saw appreciating how with every Minecraft update, it becomes more lively, like it was evolving and healing from some quiet, unknown tragedy.

[@FriesAreEpic]

Ngl, an extremely good ARG and it actually makes sense and connects to each other. Not like other ARG’s where the game is like, sentient or alive. The developers of the versions CHANGING the game itself makes actual sense.

[@claremcculloch1903]

Its always a good day when retro uploads

[@ThatChildUnderYourBasment]

Yup, allways a good day

[@TitanosaurusFan75]

Damn right.

[@ItsAcidPlays]

I’ve never heard something more true

[@commandercody4927]

true that

[@kerrilynndawn]

Absolutely it is

[@SocksFC]

This gives me Super Mario 64 and Zelda 64 beta vibes. They feel so similar yet so alien compared to the final versions. The Super Mario 64 Iceberg feels like these alternate Minecraft Alphas, an eerie dreamlike version of the main game. There’s nothing horrifying to explicitly point out, but the uncanny nature of unfamiliar parts of the game gives it all a creepy undertone

[@OMR3333]

Catastrophie crow 64 moment

[@4Bakers]

This is a really good ARG. It's convincing. I love the inclusion of the jar files having support for the hosts of the ARG to join real player's worlds (which are actually servers) and play out things like what's seen in the videos

[@Longinus_Ulyanovsky]

13:36 "The developer builds some upside-down Ts." We all know those are not upside-down Ts.

[@beyondsalami]

some of that music in the jar preview was actually really good. the ambient background ones gave me some vaporwave/hypnogogia vibes edit: faux divinity is a BANGER

[@inactivechannellmaoo]

if you're interested in faux divinity, you should check out some of cristobal tapia de veer's work. it's similar shit.

[@0Blueaura]

based jungle break enjoyer

[@RetroGamingNow]

The fact that there is a whole OST is very impressive

[@hiphyro]

faux divinity is awesome yeah (tho imo it sounds more like a sort of battle theme, perhaps could even be used in an event like the boss that spawned)

[@lambn1208]

faux divinity legit sounds like something form half life 1

[@HeroNight21]

Imagine the devs that made these versions sending us a link and leading it to a rickroll

[@iamnotuta2658]

that would be cruel

[@therealmuffinz]

Yes, the dev made it. Not mojang.

[@nquantum]

I could actually recreate it if you want

[@HeroNight21]

@@nquantum yes plss lol i want fame

[@WorriedTheif]

Yeah, no effort.

[@user-tr9cu5dv9i]

I haven't seen anyone in comment section to notice it, but I see some sense in replacing "Wanderer" painting with "Lermontov" painting. One of Lermontov's most famous works is "Hero of our time", which main character, Pechorin, represent a trope of "superfluous man" (talanted person, who can't implement his ideas therefore he just waste his life on pointless things). And trope of "superfluous man" comes from "Byronic hero", who is supposed to be shown on "Wanderer" painting. So, if devs in this ARG "replaced" original pictures with samiliar ones, it would be logical to replace "Byronic hero" with "superfluous man" (you would ask why they choose Lermontov instead of Pechorin, but I would say it doesn't really matter since many people see parallel between Pechorin and Lermontov himself). And small fact: Lermontov's ancestor was Sweden. And Mojang is Sweden company, kek

[@ZezzyBeepUltra]

I love how this is like gotta be one of the best arg Minecraft mods i’ve ever seen

[@skrrrrrrrrt]

I hope that when the ARG ends, all the modified jars are released

[@jimmynutrition7858]

Same

[@tazz1911er]

Same

[@FleaOnMyWiener]

Same

[@diamondzombie3781]

same

[@MemezuiiSangkanskje]

Same

[@TeamSilvertail]

Ok, I won't lie. The idea of Minecraft linking online worlds between a hub is actually incredible.

[@thefbiguyinurcomputer4788]

Lemuria has an interesting tale to it. I remember in the youtuber Wendigoon’s conspiracy theory iceberg video (I forget which tier) he mentions a conspiracy about the reason for the gap in population distribution of Lemurs and the theory points to a sunken (or now underground) section of the landmass Pangea. There’s some stuff about hollow earth theories and giants and what have you but it’s interesting that this little easer egg makes itself known. It would be interesting to look more into that element of the ARG

[@TtEL]

A lot of Nordic references with the music and sounds The vocals especially give that feeling in the music

[@d4ntyx267]

9:53 11:53 Regarding the Shadow, I went on Wayback machine to see the old update logs, but instead I went to the development blog and in there was a Bug Update #3. This bug update is from November 30. 2010. In it is written : ,,* Fixed dead players logging in as invisible ghosts.” And that might be what happened in the video.

[@maqma_2118]

I guess it's also worth noting that outside of this ARG, the only thing notable about Minecraft Alpha 1.0.16_02 is that it was the version that the original fake Herobrine screenshot was taken.

[@LiEnby]

what are you talking about thats just one of the recruiters !

[@synexiasaturnds727yearsago7]

@@LiEnby I like the idea that Herobrine is just one the 7 devs and Notch trolling

[@norddorian5791]

@@LiEnby disguting symbol game over yourself

[@KatOwO2235]

all of the tracks have a creepy vibe, even Pattern Ponder sounds like the drums from Jumanji which were already creepy enough

[@atlasafn5511]

The intro to this video alone has made me watch it so far over 3 times

[@zenworld7895]

I love how the shadow player in 29:21 is supposed to be creepy and the guy is like "u ok bro?"

[@keadraws]

I mean what are you supposed to do if that happens freak out and run into a wall?.

[@PeeperSnail]

I hope the conclusion of the ARG isn't the boring cliche of "Oooooh the final version is spooky and cursed because they were setting up the game to summon a Sumerian demon oooooh" or "Oooooh the lead developer has trauma and they make the game creepy on purpose oooooh". IMO it'd be much more interesting if the backstory behind this was both not supernatural in origin and not just "Petscop/Catastrophe Crow but blocks". Already, the fact the shadow entities are specifically meant to be players and not some off-brand Herobrine caught my attention. As for my theory, if the ARG really goes the route of no supernatural business, maybe the dev team that runs Minecraft Lilypad is into some illegal stuff. If a company was doing closed playtesting they would, for one, have a much less intrusive way of recruiting players, and secondly, would be issuing NDAs to said chosen players, instead of listing rules without any legal backing as if it all were just some run of the mill Minecraft server. The fact they refused to tell the E3 organizers the name of their company is another contributing factor as to why I believe they're a criminal organization of sorts.

[@bgoat.2]

in a new video on the channel released yesterday it claims dev2 is dead

[@wushiwashi]

@@bgoat.2 what the fuck?

[@PeeperSnail]

@@bgoat.2 I saw, but I don't think it's anything paranormal (yet). 2 was stated to be an elderly person, and whoever is playing the video is impersonating 2 specifically because they weren't around anymore.

[@catfries793]

I haven’t looked into the ARG myself yet but I find it really refreshing to see something that manages to creep me out without being supernatural in any way and even feels logical to some extent.

[@semisupervised1484]

Let's take a moment to appreciate the impressive complexity of this arg. I mean, these guys created an impressively extensive mod of early Minecraft complete with new features, an entire soundtrack, and new UI elements. On top of that, the puzzles are quite unique. Not only did they develop a mod, but one with a server file, so that it could be played in multiplayer. When this server was started, the gamemasters planned this and used the player-made server to continue the story. Mind-blowingly impressive.

[@gionjiibrahim9774]

*two server jar, one is UNR.PREVIEW2 and the other one is Cypress

[@tccwas]

watching this sent me through so many up and downs

[@__prometheus__]

By “distributing the jar” meant the way to join the server. Since back then the only way to do multiplayer was to modify the jar and distribute it.

[@aglassofpurifiedwaterlastn1513]

If y'all didn't know, "Lemuria" was the hypothesis of an ancient landbridge between indonesia and africa, to explain the similar flora and fauna in the two regions.

[@andromada5373]

Im Indonesian and i don't know what lemuria means

[@PGold3]

@@andromada5373 he just explained it to you

[@wrjtung3456]

I know about it

[@GikamesShadow]

Something I remembered just now that way back when on one of my first server experiences on a german server (am german) something similar to this arg has happened to me. Yes, this wasnt single player. But the fact it happened feels so creepy in hindsight. It was a generic server. A spawn world in which you could grab ressources and a town world in which you could build on your own plot of land. One day I log on, play a bit and come back home and suddenly I see a player just breaking all restrictions and perms as they walk into my home, go into my small dug out basement and started to spam blazes. I called them out in chat, even killed a blaze and had the rod to prove it and soon after was kicked for spam. As I logged back in, there was no more player but the blaze rod was still there. But the strangest thing was the player itself. Could have been an admin but I doubt it. More than likely a hacker. Why? Cause the player flashed in and out of existance as if it was a weird glitch almost. Least that is what it felt like tbh.

[@AstralPhnx]

Oh now this is REALLY cool. I really like what they've got going here and the sheer amount of effort put into the presentation right down to using old operating systems is really freaking cool. Kudos to them

[@liminalityy_]

Getting access to old operating systems isn't that hard There are plenty of ISOs online and virtual machines exist