You win or you learn.

[@Wollythemammouth]

I think you should make some NorCal Cycling merch that just says “Dont chase teammates!”

[@francescobaldan7743]

Agree.

[@10flyingdutchman]

Throw in the Cat 5 salute for me!

[@wolf.himmler]

would definitely buy :D (at least if shipped to Germany :D)

[@w4yland3r27]

Consistency is Efficiency

[@Wollythemammouth]

@@10flyingdutchman let’s just make one of those & shirts... Chasing teammates & cat 5 salutes & unnecessary efforts & crash at alviso

[@carlineng]

SJBC and Thirsty Bear finally figured out how to beat Jeff: caltrops.

[@tntgators]

Tacks planted on the road?

[@jasonjohnson9072]

I love that you show us races where things don’t go your way. I’m addicted to these vids. Keep it up.

[@Simon-le2jk]

7 minutes for a flat is pretty good though, Kudos for that

[@cameronking1872]

Every city where the cycling community is flourishing should have an Alviso! So, So rad! Jeff, You are a true tactician.

[@chrysaorchronos6741]

Show us a video of how you fixed the flat on the fly!

[@GreatAnubis]

The flat tire was really unfortunate - great chase and another good video, thanks!

[@davetri3]

Jeffe thanks for the videos and content. We are using your stuff to help teach our new junior team.

[@NorCalCycling]

Glad to help

[@enriqueDFTL]

Jerome's saddle height is so fking high, has to tilt hips and torso with each petal stroke.

[@setharcher5869]

"How to lose when you get a flat and everyone takes advantage of it"

[@theeccentric7606]

It's always the teams that wear blue with the most men in the pack

[@Brutal3nforcer]

Your Alviso weakness; a flat tyre... love your work as always

[@spoku4996]

What saddle bag and/or flat kit did you use or recommend? Maybe a video idea on essential kit for road cycling and racing?

[@CASH_111]

I really like that music edits addition on your videos

[@CoachNealF]

"Rage Attack". Love the name, wish I had that myself. LOL!

[@ianbent0n]

You live you learn You love you learn You cry you learn You lose you learn You bleed you learn You scream you learn -Jeff Linder

[@NorCalCycling]

Alanis would be proud

[@mathewemden2068]

So I don't race, but I love to watch and your videos make watching racing more interesting because now I know what is going on! So I have a question that I think I have the answer to. You got a flat, in the time you fixed it the race did a lap and you jumped on the back of the peloton, does that mean that you don't have to make up that lap you just have to start at the back and work your way back up? Thanks for clarifying and I love the videos. Maybe someday I will race!

[@denisroym2110]

I had the exact same question! Love your channel and thanks for educating me in bike race strategy!

[@NorCalCycling]

You're allowed a free lap for crashes or mechanicals out of your control, most common is a flat.

[@denisroym2110]

@@NorCalCycling Thanks! is that the same thing as the "first lap is "free" and that if you miss the first lap, you are still allowed in?

[@themindunleashed1494]

Watch the Thirsty Bear rider's hip in the opening shot (0:05). His hip tilts everytime the left leg goes on the downstroke. Would that be a saddle that's too high? It reminds me of the bikefitting series Cam Nicholls made with Neil. He had the same tilt in his pelvis before the bike fit.

[@rupertraphael]

That's what I immediately noticed, too!

[@Paganizondaf650]

He definitely has a lot of body movement going but his knee angle doesn’t look like he overstretches on the downstroke. But yeah, probably couple mm too high

[@anoopsinghtanda]

Just from external obs - Looks like left leg is a fair amount shorter, his knee tracks out at the bottom and it looks like he is reaching for the bottom of the pedal stroke (leg length shim territory), his right leg looks smooth and strong all the way through the stroke. Or maybe that is one hefty left hip impingement. Or he can just crank more watts like that. Either way, the dude can push the watts to stay in the bunch, thats pretty impressive

[@SamuelNewham]

it's jerome, their sprinter, so whatever it is it can't be hindering him too much!

[@vrg1337]

If you got a puncture, how come you're still in the race? Aren't you one lap behind?

[@janieskelinen1959]

In crits there is a neutral lap, you can join pack for number of reasons, flat tire being one of them.

[@infinity5071]

3 laps. A rider with a technical failure is allowed to join the pelaton, but not the front if im not mistaking. Not sure how it's fair, but it's not abused.

[@jessejamesv]

It's a practice race.

[@Shmack_]

I was gonna say if you get dropped just fake a puncture and then rejoin the pelaton lol

[@NorCalCycling]

Like others have said, you're allowed a free lap for crashes or mechanicals out of your control, most common is a flat. It's not an advantage despite the word 'free' in the name lol. they let you in at the back of the peloton, from a standing start, hurts like hell, and sometimes the breakaway gets away in the meantime like in this case.

[@TriDaddy]

Hopefully you learn when you win too! Always be developing yourself!

[@sknkwrksowner]

So when you have the Mike's Development guys around, you don't pair up? Figured that might be teachable moments or does it not work like that?

[@NorCalCycling]

we don't race as teammates, if that's what you mean by pair up. the best thing they can do is ride really well like this guy did a couple weeks in a row. We have a running joke on the team "if we can't beat 'em, sign 'em!"

[@sknkwrksowner]

@@NorCalCycling ah, gotcha. I figured it worked in the 'European'(?) sense of things with a Development team being groomed to one day move up into the Elite team. Thanks for the response!

[@lechprotean]

Pretty amazing how quickly you were able to fix the flat - so just take out the thorn or whatever it was, pump it with co2 and good to go???

[@NorCalCycling]

and change the tube

[@shaunb93291]

Jerome needs to thank SJBC for the gifted win. 😂

[@strassenrap]

I like that videos with your nice comments. Great!

[@NorCalCycling]

Glad you like them!

[@tempname6632]

What's etiquette on skipping laps in these types of situations. Feels like you could rest up while on side of road and skip 1-2 laps.

[@NorCalCycling]

You're allowed a free lap for crashes or mechanicals out of your control, most common is a flat.

[@Protoman888]

I feel for your puncture there... basically that's race over with that size of break

[@shubhank20]

Hey jeff wanted to ask do you still have the venge and also do you get to keep the specialized sponsered tarmac Sl7 and aethos bro.

[@MorgusVR]

Finally a breakaway til the end video and you aren't in it, lol. Shows how much they fear you though to do the breakaway attack while you are down. Guess you got to do what you got to do to get a win, not really taking down the king though.

[@NanoDex]

Nice! Cant win em all! Win or learn, like that

[@NormalGuy]

How’d you change that tube so fast?

[@omgstephen98]

Practice

[@galenkehler]

If you get a flat don't you have to roll in and report to the commisaire at the pit area?

[@deezynar]

What rules say you can sit out a few laps then jump back in and be a part of it again?

[@taurus20077]

"Don't chase teammates..." Well, then come to a bike race without teammates, then! 😄

[@xx765]

Full send rage attack... sounds familiar

[@fluxed2100]

damn I wish I live in the us Im from Indonesia 11 year old I average 15kph is it good?

[@AyahuascaSage]

Keep training and you'll be beating adults in no time when you start racing! I was about the same age as you when I started endurance sports. Two decades later and I'm still loving it.

[@fluxed2100]

@@AyahuascaSage Yeah thanks! I'm currently only riding a mtb but I won't make that as my weakness. Today I hitted 35kph for like 10seconds and it's my current best

[@malkyinnes8242]

@@fluxed2100 I'd definitely look into getting a road bike buddy. With an MTB you are limiting your skills. You want to get a road bike and proper gear and you will see a massive difference. I started with an MTB and when I switched over to a road bike, I was so much better.

[@fluxed2100]

@@malkyinnes8242 Oh alright I'm looking into road bikes right now I just needed the permission to buy it

[@marcsawicki6390]

Idea for a new video, summary video of racing tips for a cycling race. I’ve watched different videos and you seem to hit on a tip as it happens but wondering if you’ve tied it together for what we should be doing

[@NAJMFAN]

I would love to see you play chess!

[@kilianbader9786]

Tactics and strategy

[@jippevandrogenbroek754]

what did you do with the flat ?! you are not telling me you fixed it in 20s right

[@MiniFun92]

This is fun!

[@junaricaranom8798]

Dude I'm newbie on cycling and I'm a solo rider how can I improve my speed any tip or suggestions thanks.

[@NorCalCycling]

Training and practice

[@benjamoto8761]

How come there’s never any other Mike’s Bikes riders at Alviso?

[@FreeMTrider]

Brian is a good rider (Thirsty Bear) but I would have let the Pen Velo rider 4:10 go for the bridge and waited for that wheel of second rider (that would be you Jeff!) to grab on to.

[@NorCalCycling]

why

[@reflectionsdetail]

why is thirsty bear and sjbc not trying to disrupt the chase?

[@raultorres-jimenez6780]

dope

[@sureshot1109]

You mean 2022 race season?

[@Shmack_]

😔

[@thebutcher7000]

Yes sir

[@AndrewL]

you took 20 secs to change a tube?

[@hwangsunghyun9180]

So strong

[@tiimo275]

Nice!!!

[@John...44...]

Can someone explain how he was going to win after being lapped with the puncture?

[@omgstephen98]

Free lap

[@markrahman9320]

Is it always understood to be a team race at Alviso? My local training races we typically treat as "every man (sometimes woman) for themself"

[@NorCalCycling]

Thursdays are supposed to be no teams that's why I only go Tuesdays 😅. I don't even understand this sport without the team dynamic. Like a free for all basketball game 🤷‍♂️

[@markrahman9320]

@@NorCalCycling I dig. Unfortunately, my team kind of has a "home turf" domination of both training races and there's rarely more than 1 other person from other teams to make it worthwhile to make it a legit "teams" race.

[@currendejonge2732]

Is he not a lap behind?

[@austinpangcog8240]

how often do you do these races? how can i join?

[@OLLIEDOESVLOGS]

how do crits work in the us inr egards to punctures? are you allowed to rejoin and still win?

[@NorCalCycling]

You're allowed a free lap for crashes or mechanicals out of your control, most common is a flat.

[@OLLIEDOESVLOGS]

@@NorCalCycling I see, so its only one lap allowed or can it be a little more, if it was perhaps a short lap? Or is it an unofficial spoken rule of crits there?

[@OLLIEDOESVLOGS]

Anyway, been really enjoying the content of late during lockdown, fascinating and I've learnt so much that I'm excited to put into action when racing commences again as I missed out on the winter leagues

[@NorCalCycling]

Usually just one lap but it's up to the race official

[@MuzammilPeer]

which software you used to map 2 videos and activity data on video?

[@NorCalCycling]

I made a video about this topic check out my channel

[@redsoxfan5240]

I get the idea of not chasing your teammate, but what if you think your teammate in the front is not capable of winning a sprint from that group?

[@jessejamesv]

I think that's getting too cute as a basic rule. Your teammate should know their capabilities, and if they're really a weak sprinter, they should do less work in the break. Get sick of putting someone in breaks and having a shot at the podium first before you overthink it.

[@paulgraf5259]

Wait for another team to try and bridge then wheel suck across?

[@NorCalCycling]

exactly, your teammate should know his/her own capabilities in the break, if they don't like their chances and think the team can do better if the break gets caught, they should stop working in the break. if teammates are chasing behind then everybody gets tired except the competition.

[@kieranbiggar9683]

“Remember blue skies” dude you’re in Cali. Your winter is our EU bros summer smh. SOFT!!!

[@45Superjuju]

Maybe you should have tried to talk with other strong people which didn't have a team and ask to four or five riders if they wanted to bridge across with you (if it had worked, you would have had "a kind of team"). Just searching what can be improved 😅.

[@blackdeadtiger]

that guy with trek bib seems having bike fit problem.

[@f2.8-]

Anyone know the song's name around 0:50?

[@NorCalCycling]

Hallman - you blow my mind. I got it off epidemic sounds.

[@f2.8-]

@@NorCalCycling Awesome bro, It worked well with the video. 💪💪

[@aartyful]

You can still win a race with a flat and 7 minutes out?

[@noahbirdrevolution]

Taking it to the dumb trainer.

[@joblessalex]

Do flats just not count? No way you fixed a flat in 20 seconds.

[@francescomenga125]

72 degrees in California: Americans: 🙂 Everyone else: 🥵🥵

[@liceofrances]

Sorry i disagree 22C si not thaaaaat hot.

[@imperialspy3457]

*Laughs in Aussie*