American Airlines Boeing 787 declares PAN-PAN at Zurich slats issue after takeoff. Real ATC

THIS VIDEO IS A RECONSTRUCTION OF THE FOLLOWING SITUATION IN FLIGHT:
01-FEB-2025. An American Airlines Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner (B788), registration N819AN, performing flight AAL93 / AA93 from Zurich International Airport (Switzerland) to Philadelphia International Airport, PA (USA) after departure from Zurich reported a problem and requested to stop climb. The airplane leveled off at 7000 feet. Later the flight crew declared PAN-PAN, reported slat drive issue and requested return to the airport of departure. They positioned for the approach and made a safe landing on runway 16 at Zurich International Airport.
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THE MAIN VALUE IS EDUCATION. This reconstruction will be useful for actual or future air traffic controllers and pilots, people who plan to connect life with aviation, who like aviation. With help of this video reconstruction you’ll learn how to use radiotelephony rules, Aviation English language and general English language (for people whose native language is not English) in situation in flight, which was shown. THE MAIN REASON I DO THIS IS TO HELP PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND EVERY EMERGENCY SITUATION, EVERY WORD AND EVERY MOVE OF AIRCRAFT.
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HOW I DO VIDEOS:
1) I monitor media, airspace, looking for any non-standard, emergency and interesting situation.
2) I find communications of ATC unit for the period of time I need.
3) I take only phrases between air traffic controller and selected flight.
4) I find a flight path of selected aircraft.
5) I make an animation (early couple of videos don’t have animation) of flight path and aircraft, where the aircraft goes on his route.
6) When I edit video I put phrases of communications to specific points in video (in tandem with animation).
7) Together with my comments (voice and text) I edit and make a reconstruction of emergency, non-standard and interesting situation in flight.

[@ChrisKr-ue3ke]

I like the swiss ATC. They are calm and efficient. They don't always ask the same questions and are helpful.

[@markdowling7929]

There is an ATC at CYYZ who has been on some videos - very similar cadence, have wondered if she is Swiss (complimentary, although her colleagues are also very clear) when comparing to videos like this one

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@markdowling7929so all controllers who sound like this must be Swiss? You don’t think that’s a bit silly? 😂

[@mwscuba]

and with English as their second or third language. makes you think

[@captim81]

ATC is really doing well. No kind of putting pressure on it and helpful.

[@aalbix1710]

I have been in LSZH many times and I agree that Swiss controllers are among the best. Very professional service.

[@o.m.a.22]

Love how calm and professional the comms are. ATC offering up options and crew taking it slow & not getting led down a path they don’t want to go down. Good handling that situation

[@t.c.2776]

Interesting that none of them asked for Souls on board...

[@meofnz2320]

@@t.c.2776 Or “endurance” or “hazardous materials”…because all that information is either self evident, non-essential or can easily be accessed from the company. USA will catch up one day.

[@JazzyInTheAir_]

@@t.c.2776cuz we don’t ask how many souls unless the situation gets worse 😂😂

[@t.c.2776]

@ Interesting as all the other emergency/pan pan calls I've heard online do ask... no controller ever ask "how bad do you think it is?"... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@JazzyInTheAir_]

@@t.c.2776 In Switzerland we just calm . I got friends who work for Skyguide (Swiss atc control agency) and myself as a glider pilot and private pilot … we are just calm … asking how many souls won’t rlly change much . The importance is try to sort out the issue first before wondering how many people would died if u crash

[@EricHoward-n7x]

As a 40 year Air Traffic controller in three continents, I am impressed with the ATC and Pilot. Brilliant work All.

[@ninadaly7639]

May I ask you a question? This video is representative of how essential it is in your profession to keep ALL emotions at bay and remain, not only calm and focused, but even positive. How do they train you to do that? Or is that more of a specific individual human trait?

[@Lori-d1j]

OMG❤❤❤!! U.POOR SOUL.. I WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE NUT HOUSE BY NOW.. GOD BLESS YOU..!!

[@user-qh8vb3bb9m]

@@ninadaly7639 The "how do they train" is "mock situations" in the classroom, then being a "shadow" trainee before let loose on their own. Many can learn, yet not all have the temperment and focus of clarity to be an Air Traffic Controller. When sit in that chair as Air Traffic Controller, it's to leave any "upsets" of personal life at the door till their shift is over. Thus FULL focus is on all take-offs, landings as well in the air

[@ninadaly7639]

@ Thank you. It is an impressive skill!

[@amandabarber3744]

@EricHoward-n7x How do you get started in ATC? I'm curious what steps need to be taken or if it's something I could handle doing :)

[@carine4318]

That air traffic controller is the text book of professionalism many can learn from, no ego and wanting to take over.

[@metalgearfan2222]

Welcome to Switzerland

[@donsland1610]

How nice to hear clear, concise, correct ATC comms. USA take note of how it should be done.

[@horseathalt7308]

It's cultural and will not happen.

[@FlyingSquell]

But… we’re “diverse”…..

[@user-qh8vb3bb9m]

@@horseathalt7308 " ... cultural, will NOT happen." I disagree. Skill and common sense DOES very much show up in many professions, and many countries THROUGHOUT the world, INCLUDING the U.S.A. . And, especially shows up in such an important profession as this in the Airline Industry.

[@mwscuba]

@@FlyingSquell tho with a sex offender as president

[@horseathalt7308]

@ Not with brown it doesn't. EyyeeeeQQQuuueee matters too.

[@Icecrys]

Such polite interaction between pilot and air traffic controller, both remain calm.

[@metalgearfan2222]

Welcome to Switzerland

[@rkhanji]

Zurich ATC is top notch. Same as AA! Good job to all

[@jtoddk98]

This same plane declared an emergency and returned to Barcelona shortly after takeoff just a couple weeks ago in January due to a slat issue

[@horseathalt7308]

Wow interesting.

[@GSHAPIROY]

The January 7 incident was at Amsterdam...is that the one you're referring to?

[@marybeth679]

Same Make-Model or same N-number?

[@boudiccaprasutagus5709]

[@jtoddk98]

@@marybeth679 same registration N819AN

[@marioq.marques1822]

The Best ATC I’ve had contact with flying for 37 years.👍✈️

[@lorenzapaganini-talleri4905]

both ATC & cockpit crew did a great job 👍

[@skytrotter6144]

@@marioq.marques1822 Well the English ones are pretty good too, it is as if they know what are your minimum speeds you can fly at when they ask you to reduce and what you are able to do. What can I say they have invented the radar that may be a reason ! Been flying for 36 years too one year less than you😉😅

[@footballemporors14]

I see that US ATC is catching alot of heat in these comments🤣 As a Pilot from Switzerland my personal opinion is not that the US Controllers are not professional or incapable or incompetent. ATC in general across the world is one of the most stringent fields of work when it comes to discipline, competence and professionalism. It’s just a cultural thing. Since everybody speaks english as their native language it’s to be expected that the phraseology, at some point, will turn colloquial. I mean within the US this doesn’t seem to be a problem and everything just works fine. It’s just like in France where they speak in french on frequency or spanish in spanish speaking countries. The problem arises when pilots with let‘s say below average english knowledge or pilots that are not used to colloquial phraseology enter the airspace.

[@YouCanSeeATC]

👍👍👍

[@jacesr7288]

It's certainly a culture thing but from my swiss pov its that there are certainly strict standards, but that doesn't mean the swiss are not trying to exceed those standards. We take quality and safety very seriously.

[@grescho]

Appreciate the clear and precise communication of ATC with ALWAYS mentioning the unities (degrees, knots, feet) compared to the US.

[@aprilgeneric8027]

0:15...read the statement all unnecessary comms were cut out....audio is 100% edited.

[@DalokiMauvais]

This is the first of your videos I've seen and I'm really impressed. Great job!

[@jacksmith8002]

I'd say this air traffic controller is more professional than any US based ones I have heard

[@AmNesia-r5h]

It's Zurich dude, whole country is rich as hell (dat nazi gold), not really a fair comparison to USA, we have a lot of pobres.

[@malahammer]

@@AmNesia-r5h yawn

[@AmNesia-r5h]

@malahammer okuh

[@flying9249]

@@AmNesia-r5h they make a fraction of what us atc or pilots make though. lmao. doubt swiss atc makes 300k, what the fo makes on the 787 at AA does. captain is closer to 1m.

[@AmNesia-r5h]

@flying9249 LMFAO keep dreaming internet pilot

[@Kittyququmber]

What a professional conversation. I love watching ATC conversations and airline videos. These guys both the ATC and pilot left absolutely no room for an misunderstanding. All high stressful professions in airline travel, in health care like ER /OR/ ICU y take lessons in communication to “decrease making more homes in the swiss cheese model” i WHEN INTERNATIONAL language cultures etc are involved.

[@adennis200]

Im by all means no expert but from experience: This sounds exactly as it should. No unnecessary chatter, the atc is precise, to the point and gives the crew time and space to work out their problem.

[@A1R_SPEED]

European controllers are extremely professional and know when to talk and when to give pilots the time they need to work out things on their end.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

Just like all non-European controllers. 🙄

[@skytrotter6144]

⁠@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183Well that is not always that easy depending where you are going and where in the world you are ! 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@skytrotter6144 controllers in most parts of the world are “extremely professional”. It’s not just European controllers.

[@skytrotter6144]

@ I do agree in the sense that most of the ATC controllers do have a true ICAO standard phraseology despite accents but only the US have their own…as well as the speed at which they deliver their clearances…🤷🏼‍♂️

[@mwscuba]

and English is often their second or even 3rd language

[@delebru]

Coms were on point! Love ATC’s message when they’re leaving the airspace. Instead of asking if they wanted to continue or come back, just said “you are leaving my airspace, if you want to stay, turn”. That kind of messaging might sound simple but it saves a few interactions and crucial brain cycles to the pilots 👏 “follow the follow me” got me laughing 😅

[@lucamuller6729]

Also the atc just starting with „American 93, request“ , really cool to hear

[@anthonysauter5368]

When I first learnt that the guiding vehicle indeed is called a follow-me-car I was kinda, dunno, felt like somebody pulled a joke

[@LinkinLoris]

I’ve been operating out of ZRH the past 2 years and can only say good things about the ATC there.

[@The_Touring_Jedi]

3:49 No dumping fuel over Switzerland...😂 😂

[@MrSaemichlaus]

Not in my Hintergärtli!

[@Greg_P611]

This ATC is very good at his job. Listening this just shows how professional our players are in the aviation sector worldwide

[@wizerdjuice9589]

Professional crew and ATC.

[@Knotreally]

Sounds like ATC not only gives the pilots time to work out the issue but 1) sends them to 7000 to avoid both the mountains and the need to busily aviate 2) navigates for them concisely and precisely, knowing that they can use autopilot over 7000 and 3) communicates for them with the other ATC, setting up the fire brigade. This is the reason the pilots can solve the problem in peace and decide successfully what they can and cannot do. And, ATC doesn't ask impossible things from the pilots. Probably ran/remembers the numbers himself too, with a margin of error. Asks if he is allowed to drink water tomorrow. A fuel dump can permanently damage water sources, and probably the plane flew above a major one.

[@Jag-alskar-dig]

Actually, this is amazing. I love our pilots. We need to keep everybody in prayer to be safe and traveling.

[@wanderingontheroads]

That's a good tip considering Boeing aircraft are basically held together by prayers alone these days.

[@jcdock]

Im always impressed when i watch these kind of videos. The level of professionalism in such a high stakes situation is amazing

[@thomi01x48]

Welcome to Switzerland

[@petatrethewy2695]

Polite and helpful. Makes a change from the usual surliness shown by other ATCs.

[@marco3sm]

I was impressed by how calm the air traffic control was. But I also think the US pilots deserve a lot of credit for calmly handling the problem and calling for help.

[@eddeig]

In general, West-European ATC's are very professional and calm.

[@BOK-04]

LOVE that controller…. What a great job

[@lmjr400]

Atc is very clear and concise compared to the us counterparts

[@mtiberia]

As somebody who was on this flight and flies a lot I was scared out of my mind. I don’t know why that feeling came over me. The pilot was very calm in his communication with us passengers as well. My question for the aviation community was how close of a call was this??

[@miguelkamal256]

Nothing to worry about, pan-pan is an urgency not an emergency. Slats are the extension to make the wing surface larger for take off and they probably werent able to retract them after take off, therefore not being able to fly as fast and climb as high. So they had to return after figuring out if the issue could be fixed. They didnt want to dump fuel so the landing was quite heavy which puts stress on the brakes, espeicially using a tailwind rwy. That is why they asked for a fire truck, just in case brakes would overheat. What did they communicate to the passengers?

[@mtiberia]

@@miguelkamal256first the pilot came on and explained there was a problem with the flaps and we would be turning around. He gave us a countdown of when we would be on the ground. Before landing he told everyone not to be alarmed by all of the emergency vehicles waiting on the runway.

[@NG-Aviation]

Swiss ATC, good & calm

[@MadridHopper005]

I saw this plane in Zurich two days ago, it was kinda funny seeing it next to the Cathay A350

[@over9000andback]

I was just on this plane in December. Weird seeing it on here...

[@anthonysauter5368]

I said the same back in the day with Swissair flight SR111 that went down in Halifax. Half a year before, we flew that very MD11 down to South Africa. First time I experienced inflight entertainment (not the projector for all) which was the very reason SR111 went down.

[@ronDTour]

8:08 flying over my house right about here xD

[@UNIENM]

I just saw an article about this aircraft being frequently diverted (I think 5 times) due to maintenance issues over the last month, and it seems like ferried back to DFW is still not solving the problem. This is very unusual. Maybe it's an idea for you to make another video? :PPP

[@drlarcey]

we need to hire some new ATC people that is lovely dialect. Oh my goodness

[@andreasfischer9158]

I love that Swiss-German accent.

[@cilvaring]

Really calm, professional conversation to get the plane down safely. But am I the only one asking myself why the departure ATC controller said 16 is longer than 34?? It's the same runway...

[@TobyFerrari]

I might know why. When you land on 16 you have more runway to use. (You may look at google maps) if you land on 34 you have more obsticals such as buildings, a street that is higher than the land around it and is unsafer than on 16. if you look at the map you notice, that 34 has an area of runway marked with only arrows. That part is normally not used, and a landing there is not possible due to the things mentioned earlier. However landing on 16, the part with arrows can be used as more breaking/stopping time. Does that make sense?

[@cilvaring]

@TobyFerrari Yeeeeah, sooo this is embarrassing... I mean, I actually know what a displaced threshold is and how it's used. If I had looked it up before commenting, I would have seen it there as clear as a bonfire at night in the flat desert. What makes it even worse: From my office I can see the beginning of 34, hence the displaced threshold 🤣🤣 So, I could have spared us some time, if I had just used the giant round thing sitting on my neck. Anyway, thanks for the really good explanation :)

[@Kyrkarz]

It was my dad’s flight. It got deleted and delayed to monday

[@D-ALCC]

I saw the Plane yesterday at Zurich

[@VintageLPs]

Back in the late 1980’s, I was on a flight leaving London and just before flying over Ireland, a man a few rows behind me suddenly died! The pilot had to turn around and go back to London with a full load of fuel and every seat was taken. We were told to get ready to immediately exit the plane by the front door and leave everything behind because they were afraid of the brakes catching fire with all that fuel. Many people had removed their shoes and one poor lady was hopping on one foot because the other one was broken. I took my purse even though we were told to leave everything. That jet emptied in record time with stewards screaming to run and we spent 8 hrs. waiting for another plane.

[@emstirling-is4nu]

Things happen unexpectedly, but the crews are well trained on procedure and safety. Hope somebody helped the poor lady. By the way, I admit I would have taken my purse as well.

[@wally2786]

@@emstirling-is4nume too

[@Lori-d1j]

@@VintageLPs WOW...JUST...WOW

[@boudiccaprasutagus5709]

[@KiwiQu62]

8 hrs for a replacement AC. You were lucky, some wait a few days. Glad you were all okay that's the priority for All Airlines.

[@94520shatto]

********** All Day and Night, Every Day ********** This is what the Professionals sound like, all over the world. This airplane was never in danger, it just wasn't working perfectly. This .... is why flying is the safest way to travel.

[@studiotrafficcontrol]

sooooo professional

[@cabanford]

Rather a problem in Zurich airspace than NYC.

[@michaela2757]

Reading comments…these are pros. This is a sh*t sandwich, nicely served…respect to all who helped out.

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

As an expert* in ATC, TRACON, and ARTCC, I approve of this. *internet expert only*

[@theresarts482]

Listen to the efficiency of the ATC for the “Miracle on the Hudson” water landing.

[@skytrotter6144]

Standard phraseology from Swiss ATC and American made phraseology for American 93 which in the US is not always easy to understand especially the speed at which they speak on the frequency (more than 200 words per minute) and yet they still blame you for not understanding…especially in JFK ! 🙄 Personally experienced it

[@toric6185]

As a passenger, I’ve wondered how the heck pilots are able to understand some ATCs in the US. Listening to this, I’m struck by the calmness (“take your time”) and efficiency here. If I were a pilot, this is what I’d want to guide me 💯

[@kurikurihead]

Same with a lot of automated/computer service phone messages too. Too fast to keep up what they’re saying and have to listen over and over again 😢

[@Michael_W007]

Oh the anger we would have heard if they needed to return to KJFK lol

[@patrese993]

Huh, never realized that 34 has a threshold...

[@orhei9253]

Why is tower requesting the plane to use the whole runway?

[@christophersmith5303]

They are full weight for trans-atlantic flight with fuel so the plane is heavier and will come in for landing at higher speed - it's easier to use the longest runway and entire roll to stop the aircraft. It's also an isolated end of a runway that does not impact operations for the airport and gives the emergency services a nice isolated spot to greet the plane. The tower is likely passing on the wishes of the fire incident commander for same thought process.

[@ipsec6279]

Yes exactly right. ATC had to assume that the plane would block the runway for a while and directed it to a dead spot. At end of Rwy 16 it doesn’t get in the way of other runway operations. I flew 35 years out of Zurich and ATC was always top. 👍

[@Raptorman0909]

Now that's how its done, professional at both ends. Imagine the day when there are no human pilots and there's a problem!!!!

[@aprilgeneric8027]

0:15...read the statement all unnecessary comms were cut out....audio is 100% edited.

[@AGT0M]

Am I supposed to know the meaning of PAN-PAN repeated 2 more times? Mentour Pilot would have probably bothered to explain what a slat is. Blocked.

[@rFlightFPV]

Questions to the pros: looks like the souls on board and fuel remaining were not asked for by ATC. Is this SOP for a Pan-Pan aircraft? Only done on Mayday status?

[@danwinter6665]

I guess they knew it already. And losing passengers during this short flight would be really unusual. 😉

[@nycfun9061]

What for pan mean

[@YouCanSeeATC]

PAN-PAN call indicates urgency but not emergency.

[@EricHoward-n7x]

@@YouCanSeeATC It requires priority landing, But is not a situation pending disaster, however it activates emergency status as the situation could become a total emergency, a Pan Pan Pan really gets emergency services alert.

[@Poochyke]

Possible Assistance Needed

[@EricHoward-n7x]

Priority required. Not a Mayday and time to possible rectification. Normal communication after a PAN PAN PAN.

[@ivanvuarambon7730]

I think it comes from the french "panne" which means breakdown. Like Mayday comes from "m'aider", help me

[@timbuktutue]

Swizz precision :-) !

[@Zzry-n9b]

What’s ARFF?

[@YouCanSeeATC]

Aircraft Rescue and Firefighting

[@Zzry-n9b]

@@YouCanSeeATCthx a lot

[@seegee1613]

This 787 needs to be investigated. There has been multiple instances with this particular aircraft. Nice job by ATC though

[@mikeshevlin4669]

ATC is cool!

[@TheSidi0us]

Boeing and the ongoing problems with technology. A never-ending story and yet airlines continue to buy these immature and poor quality aircraft. It's quite strange.

[@吴思璠]

finally no fuel and soul

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

They should’ve asked for that.

[@sime918]

Did it change the desired outcome without that information on board?

[@renard67]

It’s just taken off to fly across the Atlantic. Fuel exhaustion is not going to be a problem. ATC can get passenger numbers by phoning AA’s handling agent at ZRH.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@renard67 it’s not about fuel exhaustion. It’s about how much fuel is on the aircraft incase something goes wrong on landing. Also, they aren’t going to “phone” AA. The pilot’s have this info handy. They know exactly how many people are onboard and it takes 5 seconds to give this info.

[@Knotreally]

​@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183and another 20 seconds to get back to the right point in the problem solving process. Giving time is giving time, not chattering away merrily and expecting an answer while the other wants to solve a problem.

[@HsingSun]

I worked on 787 in SC about 14 years ago.

[@daviddixon9207]

With friends like that, who needs enemies? 😂

[@simon199418]

I'm sorry sir, we have a tariff on excess ATC time used, please enter your credit card info after the beep.

[@kmorris8415]

😂😂

[@carlosanvito]

Well said.

[@richardmattison2382]

😂😂😂😂

[@fafileblond9202]

B787, flap right issue.😢

[@corabrantley5860]

Can we recruit atc from there?

[@arheillocuh6319]

Runway is 16-34 so cant understand why he said on 3:26

[@wotan10950]

Probably a displaced threshold on 34, which would give 16 more landing room. P.S. I just looked it up - 34 has a 1541 foot displacement; 16 has none.

[@j700jam4]

ATC didn’t ask for souls and fuel

[@greatgreyowl2583]

Having just taken off with the same controller, they would know low fuel would not be an issue. Also a PAN-PAN mean while there is a problem, the plane is under control and no landing problems expected.

[@EricHoward-n7x]

@@greatgreyowl2583 On airlines, the People on bord are known. Private flights need to report POB

[@michaela2757]

Nice job, a lot more went on…but two cool heads. Awesome 👏

[@j700jam4]

@@EricHoward-n7x no even with the airliners they ask for fuel and souls on board

[@NG-Aviation]

AA93😊 UA93💀

[@rikardoburat264]

Should’ve taken the HOLD OVER GIPOL! why not???? HOLDING is your friend???

[@johnreas9216]

Plane: “Tower….we are a Boeing flight.” Tower: “MAYDAY!…MAYDAY!…MAYDAY!”

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

Don’t quit your day job.

[@skytrotter6144]

Yep they used to say « if it’s not Boeing I am not going » now it is « if it’s Boeing I am not going » 😂😂😂

[@wotan10950]

@@skytrotter6144 Wow, I bet nobody has ever heard that before. You are very clever and witty.

[@onkelfabs6408]

Why didn't they dump fuel and go with an overweight landing?

[@a5cent]

They were flying over populated areas.

[@jusupdjidjimidjimilovic3677]

Another issue with American quality.

[@JamesAidan-s7o]

I was on a BA 78 going to MEX in July 2024. Exactly the same problem. Had to divert to Cancun, but the captain said it was a weather divert. WHAT A LIAR. Everyone knows Boeings go wrong, but it's so bad when the crew lies about it.

[@silverwings1843]

This was not critical. The Pilots have been trained for this exact scenario of NSL. The QRH...which is very deep and technical .....will walk you thru the entire operation of an Abnormal Configuration Landing. These are Professionals. And huge reason to keep DEI out of the Cockpit!!!!

[@fzrewagfzaerfer]

How frequent are PAN-PAN calls? Could he not just grant 34 in such a situation. This increased the work load in a stressful situation. 🤷‍♂️

[@onkelfabs6408]

I don't hear them telling them the Altimeter. Would have helped them as well.

[@grimmertwin2148]

I love these professional DEI hires

[@Mullikia]

Pff half-assed attempt at defending DEI, try harder.

[@wizardm]

Totally off topic.

[@Mary.Quantum426]

That made me laugh ... I totally get your meaning ... very funny. 🤣

[@Vickzq]

Switzerland sadly got quota in some places, too. But no such US dei.

[@lynnhauenstein4136]

Another Boeing problem.

[@sg7772]

Does reconstruction mean these atcs are fake?

[@flying9249]

no, real audio

[@BluefearHere]

It's a reconstruction because the other unrelated Communications are trimmed as well as some basic comms and frequency changes. Edited for your pleasure. Some other channels (like VAS Aviation) have full sector play back so you can hear everything going on in the airspace.

[@sg7772]

@flying9249 oh OK cool

[@steveabrams777]

what kind question is that? 😂 this is more real than reality!

[@justanotherguy3850]

Thank You For Preparing this in such a way that when viewed on a cell phone, which 98.7% of Internet users you to view the internet use. The description on your intro was barely readable and then into the video couldn't even make out the map. I can listen to the audio on piece together what's going on but the point is is you put together a video and posted it incorrectly.

[@johnhook2111]

The controller interrupted way too much.

[@lucamuller6729]

@@johnhook2111 it is cut shorter

[@garyvigorito3289]

Gotta love the Swiss. No DEI hiring there!

[@bennamstyle6214]

Oh shut up. DEI was not the cause for the two recent crashes. Hope that Kool-Aid is nice.

[@jovesheerwater]

@@bennamstyle6214 Typical woke rudeness. It's a fair comment given the FAAs own published hiring practices.

[@bennamstyle6214]

@ Me? Woke? Give me a break, rofl. The FAA doesn’t hire air traffic controllers that aren’t qualified for the job. Heck, I wouldn’t make it, I have autism and OCD. Read a damn article, for once, instead of repeating whatever things Jesse Watters says.

[@Vickzq]

​@@bennamstyle6214 DEI was an issue in the LA fire. And what person with atleast two braincells would defend hiring lesscqualified people?