Simple Tips for Better RV Travel Days

[@carychiasson9834]

They always say the first step is the hardest. Today on the 29th of January I am one year and one day coffee and caffeine free.

[@mikebrant192]

We stuff mini beachballs in the fridge to hold everything in place. They worked well all this year, they're cheap and deflate easily for storage, and are available in really funny designs!

[@AmyBergeytheQuickBooksGuru]

What a great idea

[@richardwarren7492]

Loved the "I'm old comment. I'm 75, you're just kids. Ps. You can never have enought curtin rods to stop stuff from opening or falling.

[@bikermama11]

I have learned so much from your channel. I have 3 more days until I head out on the road for my epic (first trip) year long trip. Starting from Stuart, Florida to Tampa to So. Carolina to Indiana to Michigan. Then to So. Dakota, Montana, Idaho, Washington. Then down the west coast to Arizona then Texas and back to Florida. I’ll be 80 in May and this has been my dream. Hubs was a career military Veteran and he passed 16 mod ago but I’m taking him with me in Spirit. Thank you for all the great tips and suggestions. My TST gives me better confidence about the tires. Safe travels. ✌️🙏👍

[@YallAintRight]

My hero! I’m 49, a single mom, and still looking for my RV. I just want some me time in my mobile she shed. I love that’s you’re taking life by the horns. You go, girl!!!

[@Elizabeth-rq1vi]

You go girl! As George Bernard Shaw said “you don’t stop playing when you grow old, you grow old when you stop playing”. Condolences on the loss of your Hubs, yes, he’ll be beside you every day. 💞

[@marshall60m4]

Good for you! Have a great trip.

[@briancampbell5127]

I've run the I90 corridor in both winter and summer and it is absolutely astonishingly beautiful, especially for us "flatlanders" here in Florida!!

[@AmyBergeytheQuickBooksGuru]

Have an awesome trip!!!

[@timcountess9228]

Longest drive was 683 miles. Don't ever want to do that again but had to make it to the Albuquerque Balloon festival and had 2.5 days to go 1400 miles. All interstate and relied on rest stops and truck stops only (love the fuel card!). We always try to arrive before dark, but in few cases we couldn't, we picked an RV park with pull thru sites and wide access so we don't have issues. But always get out and look before parking. Love y'all so much and thank you for what you do!

[@JeffPattyLivingtheGoodLife]

Thanks for a great video. We found that many of your tips are on our checklist too. Before I retired, we would make long drives because we had time constraints. I remember a few years ago when we had a 15-hour drive day and the only way we survived was to stop every hour. We allow our Fitbit to tell us that "it's time to move" and then we'll find an exit or pullout and walk around the rig until we get our 250 steps. We take a potty break, refill our water bottles, and then take off for another hour. Now that I've retired, we don't drive at night and we try to keep our distance to less than 350 miles. Most importantly, we try to smell the roses along the way.

[@philkemp9614]

Just FWIW, we use a bunji chord around all the cables& Safety chains as close to our hitch (travel trailer) as we can to help guard against a cable popping off and dragging the ground. They're a lot cheaper than having to replace a cable head. Take care and Stay safe!

[@Akjonahskate]

We are wingers. Rhonda usually drives first so I can enjoy my coffee. About noon I eat lunch and we switch so she can have lunch and rest. She drives the rig as much as I do. 👏👏👍🏻❤️

[@donwilliams6879]

As far as rest stops go; I follow the 3 point rule for being over 60. Never be rude to a lady. Never pass up an opportunity to use the facilities. And most importantly; never trust a gas release!!! If you know what I mean....

[@markwoods7237]

I agree 😂

[@Masterchief68]

I do!

[@lisataylor584]

😂

[@jrlong3490]

Abita Brewery! My favorite beer - drinking an Amber right now. Need to stop by that HH location. Safe travels.

[@danfergus8602]

I love Discount Tire. I was in Jacksonville and needed a valve replaced and a leak checked on a tire of my 3500 dually. They worked for over an hour and charged me nothing. They said just come back which would made sense if I lived in the area, but I don't. He said just go to any other Discount Tire.

[@todayissomeday]

Exactly! We feel the same way.

[@danrandall794]

You guys are so cute. Phil buddy three point contact. Maybe you did and that is why you didn't fall. Every year you get older falls become more dangerous. Great video as always.

[@etrimbleable]

Thanks for all the great advice. You two are, hands down, my favorite KZbin couple.

[@todayissomeday]

Wow, thank you!

[@bigtruckbigtravels]

At least you didn't drive the 1200 miles all at one time! Nice video. Safe travels. David

[@meridethhendry5733]

We are big babies and really try to keep our travel days under 3 hours! I know a couple of sissies. We try to plan ahead as much as possible for stops. We are the folks all of you guys fly by on the road. 60 is our maximum speed. So much more economical. Our granddaughter once noted with dismay “Grandpa all the big trucks are passing us!” She got a short lesson on fuel economy. 😉

[@softdruid3712]

We’re with you. 55-60 mph is where we cruise. Makes for long travel days, but added safety and fuel economy are worth it.

[@meridethhendry5733]

@@softdruid3712 you are so right! Plus it makes a much more restful trip.

[@hopecrane]

Our clothes used to fall off the rod on every trip! Then we got a tip: turn the hangers around so that the open part of the hook is facing front instead of facing the back. Worked like a charm. No matter what we go over or if we dip in something they don't fall off.

[@adriannurse1502]

We never plan rest breaks. We just take them as needed. Generally I try to stop every 2 hours so I can get up, walk around and stretch.

[@softdruid3712]

We finished a 2,550 mile run on Christmas Day. From Georgetown, TX to Northern Washington State in 9 days. We don’t recommend it. But getting to hug your family on Christmas? Priceless. We’re “big wingers” too. :-)

[@janicevoss864]

Hi Guys - sorry to hear about the scratch from a tree limb. We had the same thing happen while driving on a side street. We were able to have it fixed when we were in Red Bay. We do breaks on the fly like you. We just stop when we find a good place to stop. I wanted to let you know we enjoyed meeting you at Lakeland. It was a great gathering!! Everyone was so nice. Safe travels 😊❤️🇺🇸

[@barryl1072]

Using smaller plastic bins in the refrigerator and cabinets to contains and keep things from falling out instead of rods works for us.

[@tonyaveverka9740]

We have a 5th wheel. We fill up the day before we move and keep our trip to under 200 miles. Therefore, we don’t have to worry about fuel while towing. We do not plan rest stops.

[@staciehillhouse8522]

Thank you for the slap bracelet idea for a check list. It has helped us out tremendously.

[@todayissomeday]

Glad it was helpful!

[@rickrich7325]

I found out recently a lot of larger U-Hauls locations have propane which was nice to know in case of an emergency.

[@MaryWehmeier]

In California their prices are 40% more than other places.

[@tide4113]

You guys are the best. I like how you play like a team. Always important on a RV.

[@richardlaborde6460]

Abita Brewing! We lived not too far from there, love their Rootbeer Beer! So sorry to see Ruby get scuffed up. The Tammany Trace is about 30 miles and goes through some beautiful areas. A little further south is must stay place, Fontainebleau State Park and it’s right on the Trace. Mandeville and Covington also have some excellent breweries and restaurants.

[@Gerry6376]

Labor saver shower and getting a run in at the same time! Enjoy!!!

[@chrisjohnson3260]

Lol, the wife and I stayed at pour brothers harvest host and then stopped for lunch at that same rest stop off the 10 in Louisiana

[@victorhammill4224]

As a runner who is working to get back to the distance and speed I used to run, I totally get you being nervous. I find that focusing on progress over perfection is helpful. Keep it up!

[@todayissomeday]

Thank you so much! I am trying to focus on my current improvements and not my accomplishments of years ago. I just have to keep moving forward!

[@donwilliams6879]

I really enjoy your videos and I've learned a lot. My big trip from Pa to AK and then down the west coast, then Rt 10 to FL and then north to Pa will be as soon as I retire in July. I'm glad that Stacey only suggested giving up beer and pizza. She could have gone crazy and included ice cream in that list! Best wishes for a safe and happy trip.

[@formerfuzz]

Enjoy you guys. Thanks for the tips. We too are Texans residing near Mt Pleasant. Travel Safe.

[@peanut2339]

Phil. If you hang your cloths backwards ,they don't come off the rod. Run the open tips of the hangers down, behind , up and onto the rod. With the open part of the hanger hook to the front, they'll no longer get jarred off the rack. It work's.

[@janeyres5576]

Gas buddy is great to find gas. It gives you lots of options.

[@cathymontowski1263]

Thank you, great tips. We’ve been RVing for years, but our 1st owning a class A.

[@todayissomeday]

Glad it was helpful!

[@bill29456]

Good video, we try to drive 250 miles per leg. I hate settling up in the dark. You all mentioned glass in the doors. We have had installed clear tint on the glass panes. If it were to break you don’t have glass all over. Plus it actually supports the glass making it harder to break.

[@larrycates7655]

Sorry guys being a former O T R driver I had to giggle at the 1,200 mile trip . Lol . Mileage was my paycheck . I guess you could say I have lived the r v life of a different style. I enjoy your videos .

[@Bigdreamadventures]

We are just now discussing the idea of full time RVing. Lots of great info on your channel.

[@todayissomeday]

You can do it!

[@dhillman7522]

I use the Allstays app as well I just paid for the new subscription I think it was about $31- 33 for a year. I also use the app for overhead clearances with my 13.5 ft 5th wheel. We love this tool. As for the TSD card we don't use it very much anymore. The truck stops usually have the fuel price jacked up so that even with the discount it's the same or less at one of the regular fuel stations paying regular price. After we disconnect from the 5th wheel I just fill up in the afternoon. I know not always an option with a motor home.

[@jbat66]

OMG, we did the exact same thing with the tire sensor 4 weeks ago. We stopped at a pizza place overnight, and I tried to make it around curb in the parking lot, and our toad's wheel just brushed up against the curb, our TPMS, went off a few min later, and I went out to see that the sensor was at a 45 Degree angle with the last few threads broke off of the aluminum stem. Luckily I had the sensor, but like you I couldn't add any air to the tire. I lost air, but did get it to stop letting our air. The next morning we went to Discount Tire, and they replaced the stem but the TPMS was still good, and because we purchased the tires from them the cost was $0. It took two hours out of our travel day, and taught me a lesson. Just disconnect the dang toad if it gets tight. That is a lot faster than the two hours at discount.

[@todayissomeday]

Spot on!! I will take the toad off next time!!

[@Powerstroke98]

We never know where we will stop without Phaeton, but ‘hope’ to get to a location we’ve been to before. I love to drive, so on our current trip to Arizona from southwestern Canada I had one stint of driving was 13 1/2 hours, which was leaving in the dark, and arriving in the dark, often using Casinos for a sleep/go! We are part timers, so owe don’t have a fuel discount card, but like Stacy, my wife uses ‘GasBuddy’ keeping an eye on diesel prices, and have found California tone the worst pricing, so we do try and keep our stay in their state to a minimum! Our coach came with a TPMS system, albeit unsure of the brand and does a fine job. We where in a hurry when leaving, as snow was forecasted so we never could find the receiver for it’s tire sensors, so we’ve not used it this trip. Will have to rectify that soon, so I’ll look at getting one for both the coach & towed!

[@ronaldseher2484]

Phil, for your problem cabinet, is it possible to install a "child protection" latch? One that you open the door enough to slip your finger between the door and cabinet to push the nylon latch down to release and open the door the rest of the way. Another thought, I just bought a trigger operated digital tire gauge and fill from Habor Freight that I can use on my dual wheels for about $54...no guessing on the pressure...yea! It works great. It's 2 pounds off from TPMS so I just make the adjustment and I'm done. I'm not familiar with your compressor set up you may have to get a couple of couplings to hook it up. See ya, Ron, Plano, TX

[@kencathy-campfirejourneys]

Hi guys, I've seen a few people use magnetic child safety latches to keep their cabinet doors closed while traveling... they seem to be pretty cool!! Safe travels 🙏

[@arbonneladyTN]

I found latches that wrap and keep our drawers in place.

[@norme2681]

LOL, LOL 10:00 looks like our bus on travel day, it's worse if we recently went to Costco. Even after 2yrs the first travel day when we change areas we are always late, something always slows us down, but no matter what I shut sown before sunset. I've been having the same issue with the jacks, but mine is the same one, it comes up but is slow to lock in 50% of the time. We don't always use the discount cards I check gas buddy for better deals on diesel plus I hate the chain truck stops, you always have to wait on some bonehead trucker camping on the fuel island. My biggest tip on moving day is "stay claim", don't stress each other, things will happen, and if you see a fellow RVer struggling go help them out.

[@jolenecreech7648]

I just watched your video where you mentioned little Gizmo. I am so sorry. He was precious. 💜

[@todayissomeday]

Thank you!

[@brucefranklin6765]

Living in Florida, our first travel day is usually the longest just to get out of Florida! Lol We plan our fuel stops the night before. We’re a big fan of Harvest Host on our trips.

[@lawrencecollier9112]

We use Tot Loc magnetic lock on our pantry door. It works great, no problems. They are available at home centers marketed for locking out children from cabinets while allowing convenient operation with the magnet. Once parked you can lock out the catch and use the door without the magnet. Safe travels.

[@JimLearnDaytona]

Excellent idea! And only “turning them on” on travel days is perfect! I’ve put these on many cabinets over the years (be sure to locate them similarly on each cabinet so you don’t forget where the magnet goes to unlock them!)

[@mnmandthegang]

Great video, we usually stop for breaks around 1pm and stop for the night around 4-5pm. Good luck on your training 🙂

[@thomastheys6681]

Thank you for the Open Roads exclamation that has completely cleared up my problem I love my discount card and I guess I don’t love flying J anymore. Thomyt

[@Akjonahskate]

Great video! I agree 100% with arriving before dark. Not only are the headlights not great on these coaches but it’s difficult to see obstacles when you’re pulling into your RV site for the night. Great job! Love your channel and you!! 😊👏👏

[@rickrichardson5329]

Great tips to help us out. I like to stop when my wife says it's time and usually that's when I need to go too

[@daniellel256]

We wing the rest stops. Also considering the latch cabinet door, we have a drawer that had a similar issue. We installed 2 latches on one drawer and it’s been working great. We like to stop by 3 pm, if a rest area or Walmart stay. If harvest host drive will drive a little later because of the reservations. Agree, stop before dark.

[@kenternst8427]

LOL, about Phil's clothes falling down. We had it happen also. Our wardrope closet is all the way to the rear of our 40' class A. We went over a speed bump in a parking lot that apparently threw every single hanger up off the closet bar and they all fell to the floor.

[@RLDownTheGravelRoad]

We are also big wingers. We like to just go in the moment. Stacy try running in intervals. I knocked 26 minutes off my half time by running intervals. Also, consider running some ultra events. They are so great! Start with ones that are on a loop. A great one is Arrowhead in Johnston City, IL in October. In November there is Tunnel Hill events. 50 miler, 100 miler and marathon. It’s fantastic. People from all around the world come. It’s in Vienna, IL.

[@todayissomeday]

Great tips! Thanks.

[@Mark_Lawler]

Hope you enjoyed a Tubodog while at the brewery! Sorry about catching that branch while trying to pull in. As for my wife and I on travel days we don't plan breaks. One of the joys of a small Class C is the ability to take almost any exit that has a matching return on ramp. Best...

[@lisaklein3423]

Great video! We love Open Roads and can also get discounts for our diesel truck (we have a 5th wheel) when we're not towing. They added Speedway (Michigan) and we often will get $1 or more off!

[@rjahn3000]

Yup the closet thing, happened a few times in our 37 PA.....cheers!

[@arvnatives4726]

Good looking Battle Born add in the Tiffin magazine.

[@todayissomeday]

Thanks!

[@jojohnson27]

Kick butt Stacy! Know you can!

[@roydavis2242]

I can do a 1200 mile trip without having to refuel, however I like to fuel up right before we stop for the night. We prefer to stay overnight a casinos but we're not drinkers. I have been RVing for over 50 years yet we still use a check list. The issue with Open Roads and Flying J with the discount is that Flying J has an exclusive discount for RVs with Good Sams.

[@kennyandcandywalker2673]

Love the video! We plan our lunch/rest stop with RV Trip Wizard. If we're on freeways I use my iExit app to see how many miles to the next rest stop. Love this app as it will tell you in detail what is at every exit. When on back roads we wing it and have found some great stopping place to have lunch. I always note these stops in our travel journal for those return trip. Safe travels.

[@alangreen5732]

We like this app as well. The only draw back is that it only works on Interstates.

[@michaelburke9153]

You are awesome Stacy.

[@diannemcneal6104]

Trying to plan rest stops. Especially on longer travel days.

[@gigievans395]

No plans on rest stops, check generally where they are but hit n miss depending on body 👍

[@andycommonsincanada]

This may be us but we have found that Pilot, Flying J, Loves etc etc are way more expensive per gallon to start with so they build in the discount to take off the supposed discount. We buy our fuel off highway in towns and if you go to Arco or Maverick or Valero they tend to be up to 50 cents per gallon cheaper than on the highway.

[@judyhenson9802]

Many items on your checklist are on ours, too. I put the bars vertically in the cabinets, even if I need two. Thanks for another great video.

[@JerryDLTN]

16:01 I did my 1st and 2nd full marathon in 2007 and used to cycle but got odd and fat. Good luck!

[@SweetGertieandMe]

Hi Phil and Stacey, I'm watching this video and I'm like boy this looks familiar, I took this same route back in April and loved the first Harvest Host you're at, I needed to stay and work the next morning and they were so nice about it. Hope you enjoyed it as well.

[@rockybridges4820]

Awesome video again guys! Glad you got to spend time with the Grand baby. Great travel tips again! Gotta get a check list for in, out, setup and teardown. Stay safe and warm

[@ggebhard1]

Great video! Even though I pull an 18’ TAB 400, I still enjoy the tips for big rigs!! Maybe someday, mine will grow up!!

[@WILDEBILL308]

I like Lov's but it is the lowest discount. Hearer a tip for you. When it has been raining raise one end/tilt the coach so you drain any water on top the slides before you bring them in. Otherwise there can be water on top the slide when it is in. It can run off inside the coach and if you are lucky and hit a small downgrade it can pore right down your neck. Yes I HATE arriving after dark. Did I say I HATE arriving after dark.

[@GatorsRock0219]

I feel your pain on the jacks...I also have a Tiffin Allegro (gas, not diesel) and I have had intermittent issues with my jacks. The first time I figured out how to force them up by lifting the corresponding levers on the hydraulic pump. Dropped it off at the dealer and they could not duplicate the problem of course.

[@tomdowney7519]

You need a Newmar mountainaire .... we park, tune the key to accessory, push the slide out button, push the jack button (auto level), get a beer.. we be done.. C-ya. our coach gives us 9.0 GPM. when we put it in economy cruise . and let it run for 120 gallons or when the 50 gallon warning light comes on..do the math :)

[@dallaswillard3155]

Yes my clothes fall off hook while traveling also and I am small and my tshirts aren't heavy- very frustrating to always hang up stuff when I arrive. I think the asphalt is esp bumpy on those times. But nothing to do than - slow down when driving. Thought I usually drive 55 to 60 mph. Enjoy your videos very much. Very good information on RV travel . I do the same- re - get rusty when I don't travel for few months. Even hooked my water line to wrong connection ( hooked to black tank flush - overflowed the toilet that time. - LOL will never do that again.

[@rollinwiththedavises1938]

We left Moab on a Tuesday morning and were back to Northeastern MD Friday evening. Would have been home sooner but wind shut us down early in KS on day two. 750 miles on last day. Over 600 on Thursday. I kinda plan rest and fuel stops then end up winging it cause my pilot changes his mind ALOT!😜😜

[@delmarsbeensaved8569]

Matt made fun of my slap wraps , but they are the perfect precheck method in my opinion. Glad you got a chance to spoil the grandbabies. Safe travels.

[@jamesbitb]

Tend to plan fuel stops early and look at backup and alternate options along the way. Even with Open Roads, discounts change so double check as we get close. For rest stops, outside fuel we don’t plan rest stops, just deal as we need. Flexibility makes the longer trips easier.

[@ChurchOfChristguyRob]

I love the haircut flat tops are my favorite,. Thank you for your KZbin channel.

[@todayissomeday]

30+ years with the same cut! LOL

[@philstucker1312]

As far as rest stops go….WHEN NEEDED. 🤣🤣

[@martyC9578]

Thanks for another great video. We leave tomorrow for almost the same trek. We are off 1-10 1 hr east of San Antonio (Schulenburg, TX) headed to Daytona.

[@brianlykins6663]

Hey guys, great video. All good tips, ya'll had. Always enjoy when one of your videos pops up. Good to see ya'll on the road again. Ya'll stay safe on the road and be sure and find Phil some more breweries along the way. God bless ya'll on your travels, and have a blessed day.

[@ddurick5048]

we do not plan rest stops, we just hit them all. Thank for the Open roads clarification, meant to ask them about it at the show

[@arbonneladyTN]

Phil is sooo NAVY!!! His shirts are “Color coded” 😂❤️❤️☺️❤️ We do… 3,3,3, (3pm, 300 miles, 3 adult beverages) Ps… Stacy, loved seeing the Fiesta shirt! Are you planning Balloon Fiesta in 2023?

[@todayissomeday]

No we wont make it this year. Hoping for 2024!

[@joysoul4089]

Clothes falling - we found a solution that solves two problems in one. We fit a long tension rod behind the hook at the top of the clotheshangers while traveling. When we arrive, we can leave it (we can still remove clothing from the hangers), but usually we remove it and install in the bedroom to give us a super-long drying rack that's not in the way or even noticeable when not in use.

[@tom35m59]

We use r trip Wizard, and plan all our stops

[@-shadyG]

Welcome to Lakeland. 😊

[@TomSpurlock]

I know the feeling. We've been home for 5 months after our NW trip last Summer. We leave in 3wks for Florida from California! Getting ready is tedious.

[@jeric2577]

It appears Phil's hangers are pointing to the back. My clothes always fell off until someone suggested having the hanger hooks towards the front. I was skeptical but tried it. They hardly ever fall off now. Definitely worked.

[@petitchenil]

Google street view is a great tip because a steep driveway has caused us a problems twice. We plan all stops in advance and worse case is we don't need to stop and just keep going. Always plan a long stop half way in the trip to walk the dogs, eat and rest. Normally it's a four hour day for the long trips. Late check out and early arrival then rest and relaxation. OH, we normally travel on weekdays when repair facilities are up and running. Nothing worse than a break down on a Sunday when everything is closed.

[@sallyfisher7911]

My husband and I always love your videos! We had damage pulling in to a pull-through rv once, so I feel your pain! Why didn’t you show the damage? As I sat on the roof, covering our damage with Eternabond tape, another rv-er walked by and said we were the third one damaged in that site this month. 😡 It was our fault, we didn’t Get Out And Look because it was a wide pull through site. Had I gotten out and walked the site, I’d have seen that one branch angled across the site more than was apparent from our approach. Anyhow, we were feeling for you guys and wanted to see your damage and find out what you needed to do about it.

[@jojohnson27]

Put the hangers with the open side of the hanger toward you. They will never fall off!

[@tksleeper]

I use my garmin otr 1000. For on the fly I plan all my fuel stops, rest areas, and even look art up coming camp grounds.

[@simonelojeck]

Good Luck on your run training!! I haven't been able to run since I tore my meniscus a couple of years ago. (I'm old so they say recovery is longer) You'll be running with my best of thoughts and wishes joining you!!!

[@mikependergrass308]

Stacy, please tell us that you carry some type of protection when you run.

[@tantsits77]

We use the next exit book for our rest stops.

[@lllr1111]

To keep hangers from falling off the rod (for closets in the rear), I hang the hangers BACKWARDS. No more falling hangers. :)

[@josephcaprara898]

Be careful to make sure the steps are fully extended. It’s a pain to repair them. We have a gasoline engine, so I use pilot or Sams for fuel. The last few years we end up either I-81 / I-40. Or 1-95 So the route is becoming familiar.

[@marlenemilovac3347]

We stayed at that Harvest Host! Great place in Beaumont!

[@kathyjoslin1361]

I recently got the allstays rest stop app and I love it.

[@1MillionMileRoadTrip]

Try Mudflap for fuel…Diesel

[@brockpratt8459]

Hey Phil I color code my shirts too & if I have enough of the right color hangers I match colored hangers with my shirts 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️😂😂

[@jc525exc]

Great video. Setting parameters for travel days makes so much sense. We really try to set limits for our TD's also. Noticed your colored tongue depressor like check list items. Clever idea! What are those things your using to do your checklist?

[@todayissomeday]

We use the ol "slap wrist bracelets". We started "slapping" them on the steering wheel when we first started. We would then remove them when the task was complete on travel days. The steering wheel made sense as we would always see what we forgot. We got them on Amazon.

[@jc525exc]

Clever idea- thanks. Merry Christmas@@todayissomeday