ORIGINAL black characters remain on the shelf because of tokenization

[@youngrippa59]

These weirdos bore me to death. Creatively bankrupt.

[@robertwykle8636]

What about John Henry the Man of Steel

[@VenomBroly]

It’s because no one can be creative without a brain. That’s not Creatively bankrupt, it’s Brain shortage !

[@redmuskratt]

I dug the death of superman series. Loved Steel. Was that the black one? I don't DC much.

[@matane2465]

They are continuing to tokenize Iris West in the upcoming animated JSA movie.

[@davidfrancisco3502]

They triple tokenized in CW Batwoman. Tokenization of a male superheroe, tokenization of a *HETEROSEXUAL* female comic book character created at early 60's and tokenization from white to black.

[@imemovengeance]

As a white dude I'd be pissed if they changed Spawn

[@ManicksChannel]

And they never would. They won't even highlight (not in tone but as a black comicbook character) Al Simmons. Its not about that.

[@gracebonez]

@@ManicksChannel DUDE!!! If they even MENTION spawn in that bullshit...I will PERSONALLY walk in that comic building and start throwing dudes off the very TOP of the highest building I can find. I don't think you understand how insulting this shit is.

[@poeticgangsta6616]

But how would u feel if WB uses a Blk Superman from the comics?

[@chadnelson1777]

@@poeticgangsta6616 only if it’s the right Superman like Val zod lol. Their turning kal el as a black Superman when he is white. Duh lol

[@gracebonez]

I don't read coat tail literature. If it ain't original...it ain't worth my time. But be my guest and tell me how Im supposed to think.

[@Scorched_gymsocks]

Spawn is a great black character that doesn’t get enough love

[@ZergleJerk]

He also tax evades the devil and when he found out his best friend started banging his wife he pulled the ultimate Chad move and possessed his ex-best friend and fucked his own wife through his friend's body.

[@cx2900]

I don't know much about spawn, so correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't his story pretty much start when he is no longer human? meaning he wouldn't really have a race anymore

[@RandomPerson-i5p]

They Better not touch Spawn i swear to god if they do

[@melvinjohnson9372]

@@ZergleJerk yeah he is actually the devil's hitman

[@Scorched_gymsocks]

@@cx2900 he starts off as a black man, and he’s still black once he dies his body just looks zombified. His suit and cape are sort of similar to venom in that it’s basically a living organism that he can control like a symbiote

[@lunarbunny3021]

It’s incredibly disrespectful to black people, it’s like saying “We don’t care enough about you to come up with original black character films, here’s some leftovers”

[@derrickcrawford1081]

It's also incredibly condescending

[@blueplanet9917]

They've been doing it for years under the guise of "progress". It's a huge step backwards.

[@dragonwing1982]

No actually this is worse its like say not only do we not care enough to do an original character we don't even care to make a movie about the ones that are already their.

[@HIMMBelljuvo]

EXACTLY.

[@erikuu96]

This is now just revenge for them, they just want to get rid of all legacy white characters.

[@efe_aydal]

They actually DO have a black Superman. He's called Hancock.

[@davidbarry7391]

Hancocks origin was more Hawkman than Superman

[@thebluntfultruth8475]

Icon*

[@Ultimatelifeform282]

Steel

[@byronrush9802]

@@thebluntfultruth8475 he is the black superman

[@DusttheDemonslayer]

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[@CaAnPeSe4ever]

The Green Lantern franchise did it right. They weren't lazy and just race-swapped Hal Jordan from white to black but created a whole new original character with own back story in Jon Stewart. Not to mention that the Green Lantern universe with its multi-planatary corps easily allowed the Jon Stewart character to fit in.

[@jordancr3885]

Preach 🙏

[@desertmortician9332]

I was never SUPER into comics, but when I was growing up in the 90s Jon Stewart was my green lantern. He was cool and he was a badass. To me he was cooler then Superman. I was shocked when I came back to comic stuff when I was older and we had Hal Jordan. I though Jon was THE Green lantern...I think to me he always will be.

[@DarkCloudian]

that's thing with other characters though lol. Which supposed color swapped character has the same story?

[@MaskedMan66]

@@desertmortician9332 Stewart also had one of the most devastating stories of any superhero when he was prevented from saving a whole planet from destruction. He blamed himself (and his overconfidence in his GL power was a factor) and had a lot to work through, but he emerged from it stronger and still had the support of the Corps and the JLA.

[@CaAnPeSe4ever]

@@MaskedMan66 And I love good character development stories. 😊

[@venomnbk3326]

Evil cannot create, it can only corrupt. - JRR Tolkien

[@DrakeKnight99]

Tolkien is full of shit. Evil can create something. Itll create a movement to oust these wannabe shit heads out of geek culture

[@BranBal]

@@DrakeKnight99 That's not creating. They are corrupting Martin Luther King's movement with the tokenization!

[@pittland44]

@@DrakeKnight99 And you totally missed the point. 🙄🙄🙄

[@SpikeRazzor]

@@BranBal Please don't bring up MLK if a select part of "I have a dream" speech is the full extent of your knowledge of the man.

[@luciusirving5926]

@@SpikeRazzor Fact is, SJWs are still butchering MLK's point of view on equality.

[@TheCarrottop0226]

As a white man, my first comic as a kid was a Black Panther comic that came with an action figure. I loved that action figure, played with it very often, and I ready that comic until the pages fell apart. I think as adults we forget that kids have no concept of race and skin color unless we tell teach them.

[@MaskedMan66]

When I was a kid, I watched "Eelectra Woman and Dyna Girl" on Saturday mornings. The fact that they were women made no difference to me; they were superheroes and that made them cool. Same with the Falcon, who was the first black superhero I ever knew; he was cool, and he got to work with Captain America, which meant he was one of the very best.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

from europe, it seems like this is a mostly american issue. over here when we talk about people, we dont always preface everything we say with the skin color of the person we're talking about. the day i found out that in america, on election day, the exit polls actually ask people what their skin color is, i nearly fell off my damn chair and choked. if that happened over here people would literally be screaming and suing the government because thats fascist. im still waiting for the day when you people find out skin color is just a phenotype and doesnt even correlate one to one to ethnicity. instead of talking about "black superheroes" talk about "zulu" or "pygmy superheroes". that would be the day. that would show real clear how ridiculous your whole skin color centric world view is. there are bigger genetic differences between different ethnicities in africa than between them and germanic people.

[@hunterxero8126]

@@TheSuperappelflap I agree, America has become so obsessed with race and skin colour, they see it as something that defines peoples personality and that everyone should be judged first by their colour instead of something like their achievements in life. As if skin colour has any effect on what kind of person you are.

[@MaskedMan66]

@@TheSuperappelflap A lot of us know that already. But the ones who do aren't rich or influential. People of various types will never have arrived until their achievements are mentioned without their color or sex.

[@ryang.8155]

@@TheSuperappelflap the problem is if we look at it like that we are considered racist.

[@neondarkgaming334]

Black Superman movie is already nominated for an academy award for best picture for the 2022 oscars. 'Stunning and brave' says twitter.

[@1977dajmo]

Shockingly enough, the 2022 Oscars is already the lowest rated broadcast in history. Go figure.

[@j777111able]

It’s most likely going to be a woke dumpster fire. It will flip before it even is released. Get woke, go broke. They’re literally just burning money at this point - it’s disgusting. 🔥 💰 🔥

[@saulschimek7680]

Stunning and Brave = Boring and Trite

[@johnathanspain1869]

More like stunning and lazy. Lol

[@admirekashiri9879]

It's going to be pure trash.

[@wcw2793]

I remember WIll Smith commenting that he was offered the role of Superman and turned it down because “race swapping Superman would be career suicide.”

[@jean-mi1825]

Just like Michael B Jordan did, not long ago, saying he'd like to play Calvin Ellis, but NOT Clark Kent (Johnny Storm bad memories anyone ?)...

[@fatetestarossa2774]

@@jean-mi1825 WELL SAID

[@warfightermarc5639]

Everyone loved Hancock though because he was original, powers similar to Superman and all but at least he was ORIGINAL.

[@jean-mi1825]

@@warfightermarc5639 the first draft was FAR darker, but when Sony hired Will Smith it was rewriten

[@kerbalairforce8802]

Michael B Jordan decided to play John Clark, a pivotal character in the Tom Clancy "Ryanverse"

[@DarthDainese69]

As a white male, I do not judge you on the colour of your skin, I watch you because you know more about comics than I ever will, to me you are educational

[@ezekieltete6584]

As a black kid I always wanted a static shock movie or series. Clark Kent is white

[@clairelundsgaard1373]

@@ezekieltete6584 I'm not black but that would be awesome.

[@surunitemiakanni-oye4346]

@@ezekieltete6584 Fictional characters like Clark Kent is white = Jesus is white Until the end of time?

[@gates9107]

@@surunitemiakanni-oye4346 The should do the Calvin Ellis superman which is the black version of Superman. Different storyline. And Jesus is Jew not white.

[@surunitemiakanni-oye4346]

@@gates9107 Some Jews are not white? Jesus is depicted as blonde and blue-eyed - the classic Aryan wish list.

[@lukewbez]

"you still haven't even used henry cavill correctly" oof, so true

[@sodokami6347]

They did him dirty. He’s imo the best Superman

[@lukewbez]

@@sodokami6347 same with Batfleck

[@sodokami6347]

@@lukewbez yup

[@hufhehufhe341]

Henry had a lot of potential and they barley did anything with him

[@V2ULTRAKill]

@@lukewbez Batfleck couldve been christian bale tier if he had a good writer

[@b1uedr4g0n]

A John Stewart Green Lantern story would be much appreciated dipping into the nostalgia of the justice League cartoon

[@BrendonLee]

Would love to see a trilogy with each movie centering on a different Lantern. Then a 4th one where they all come together for a big bad cosmic event.

[@thesimpledude186]

@@BrendonLee we got the perfect john stewart, and snyder will probably release the scene soon

[@bashengatheblackmanta7003]

@@BrendonLee that's exactly what l said multiple time, since we got 6 lantern the trilogy of the green lanterns should have 2 lantern as main characters and it should each should take place from different decades -gl 1 should be hal jordan and john Stewart -gl 2 should be guy guardner and kyle rayner -gl 3 should be simon baz and Jessica cruz

[@BrendonLee]

@@bashengatheblackmanta7003 I´m not familiar with the mythology but reading this already makes me fucking excited for all the possible characters and world building. And not to mention Lanterns from other spectrums, they can stretch this franchise out for the next 10 years at least.

[@CaAnPeSe4ever]

I'd go see it.

[@KidGravityBeyond]

It sucks that “Steel” can’t get a decent run

[@garytallowin6623]

This.. loved the character in the comics, never got a fair shot at the big screen

[@randomperson-up5vt]

I haven't heard of the steel character in ages. I could get behind seeing that type of character getting some attention instead of the constant token of Flash, Spider-Man, or now black superman.

[@ultra80sretrokid70]

Indeed

[@derrickcrawford1081]

But didn't steel already get a movie with Shaquille O'Neal?

[@derrickcrawford1081]

@@garytallowin6623 yes he did

[@kaijusoshingeki7214]

Storm is one of the best female characters in all of comics and they’ve never done her justice in a movie.

[@TheArtifcer]

for real though why doesnt a solo storm movie exist.....she has an epic backstory that the early 90s version did well enough that any of these lame brain directors could copy paste

[@apolloman1608]

cough cough rogue

[@clutch1976]

Next to Wolverine, Storm is the one character that I can't wait to see the MCU version of.

[@thequietman5934]

@@clutch1976 I can because Disney will destroy both those characters.

[@thequietman5934]

They turned Storm into a T’Challa’s scantily clad side piece then after he divorced her via FaceTime they turned her into a bed hopping black supremacist. So she’s been getting shit on for years now.

[@brpadington]

If a character is written well people of all races and backgrounds will be able to relate to them no matter what race the character is.

[@MaskedMan66]

Exactly! When I was a kid, I didn't care what color or sex a character was; if he or she was interesting and cool, I loved 'em!

[@TheColonelCommisar]

Louder for the people in the back! Seriously, the more I see what big entertainment is doing, the more I'm like, who the hell is this stuff for? What kind of person consumes a piece of media and is actually upset that the color of a character is different from their own? Who cares what they look like as long as the story is good?

[@MaskedMan66]

@@TheColonelCommisar The worst of it is that in general, the people they're pandering to aren't into this sort of entertainment.

[@hollow3607]

Exactly so whats the problem with him being black? Yall comic book purest are something else. I get it but race swap and comic accuracy are the least of my concerns lol

[@MaskedMan66]

@@hollow3607 It's "purists," and I'm sure you have something you're devoted to that you wouldn't like to see changed, especially for silly political reasons. Casting Eartha Kitt as Catwoman in the 1960's was just because she was an excellent actress with a lot of eccentricities. Nowadays it's a matter of, "We have to cast a black person in this traditionally white role because that's how we score brownie points with the SJWs!"

[@Alteori]

Omg. I agree 💯 There are SO many original characters. Marvel did something wonderful and took characters that I've never even heard of like guardians of the Galaxy and brought them to life. I don't even know if guardians of the Galaxy was popular in comic form but it didn't matter, because a whole bunch of people were excited to see comic book characters they either didn't know about or haven't seen on the screen yet.

[@dwainpannell4931]

The lead character of the guardians was replaced with a younger more Americanized version no one complained

[@AmbitiousMuscle]

Blue Marvel would be great to see onscreen!

[@rokkkrinn2793]

Jim Valentino's run on the book was very popular in the 80's. So popular he became a founding member of Image. The characters were way different, though. Yondu was on the team, but the rest haven't made it to the big screen.

[@Flippy_Nips]

WB is a shite company. I hate marvel comics & movies but I respect what they do for their fans.

[@maybeitsyou1317]

@@dwainpannell4931 Yes they did. Also we are talking about an inconic hero with superman. Maybe 5% of people knew who the fuck Star Lord was before Gotg.

[@drewsims3823]

Blade is an awesome black character that has been around for years and it's sad how he is mostly ignored in comics.

[@DrakeKnight99]

He's to badass to be used

[@BlatentlyFakeName]

1 and 2 were good movies. Snipes was great in it because he was a very experienced martial artist and pulled off the fight scenes perfectly.

[@dwainpannell4931]

Blade is currently an avenger

[@jean-mi1825]

He's been in every Vampires related Marvel stories (and there's been quite a few in the last decade) and he has been an Avenger since Marvel announced his upcoming film. The time he wasn't used in the Comics was during the period his movie rights weren't at Marvel but at New Line (owned by Warner who also owns DC)... Just like Marvel canceled the FF Comics when Fox (not yet bought by Disney/Marvel) released the dreadful 2015 unFantastic Fake, for instance. Beside, he was supposed to have his own TV series in some kind of MarvelKnight TV shared universe that should have been started with Helstrom and a Ghost Rider TV series...

[@bcwright7768]

Balde had 3 really good movies think he had his shine. Whate great is there doing a reboot i just dont know how to feel with no wesley snipes

[@boisycopelandjr]

Seriously Vixen deserve her own movie...dang it. She should had already have a movie.

[@thirdplanet4471]

She does though it isn't live action

[@bernardohernandez5418]

They put vixen in the Harley quinn movie. Nope, sorry. That was just a character who looked like vixen who should've been vixen but made her black canary. Vixen in the movie would've made the movie better imo.

[@benignlaughter8567]

First I learned about her, didn't read much DC. But ya just by her power set alone and the fact she's not a freaking DEMIGOD like dc seems to have problems with in movies. Im game, sign me up

[@Werewolf914]

Yeah she is awesome at least in every show I've seen her in.

[@minniemin1324]

she actually has her own animated movie

[@ramblinwreck24]

So Mike Henry can't voice a black cartoon character he gave life to (Cleveland from family guy) because he's white... while simultaneously they can fundamentally change/raceswap superman and it's praised? I just don't get the world anymore lol

[@ant4158]

There was already a black superman...its called Hancock

[@derrickcrawford1081]

Didn't they already do movie about him

[@antmaster360]

“Your head is going up his ass. Your head is going up his ass. And you get the short end of the straw because your head is going up MY ass.”

[@mr.dynamite2924]

Nah it's Idris Ilba.

[@SnipingIsFun]

Or Steel

[@kaybrzy3367]

I loved the beanie-wearing, train-smashing drunk Hancock

[@Anlom415]

I’m an older white man and I love the Falcon, Luke Cage ,Black Panther , storm and others and I think your contact is awesome.

[@Lastjustice]

Blade is freaking awesome. The opening with that bad ass song(Blood bath) as he just comes in and starts slaying it. That is how you make a movie.

[@theinternetisnotarealplace4133]

You have static shock,I forgot that balck lanterns name that hall Jordon became bestfriends with, steel,and a ton more

[@pepeedge5601]

@@theinternetisnotarealplace4133 John Stewart.

[@jfree77040]

All side kicks and B list characters.

[@219Thompson]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again- STATIC SHOCK. I'm a white kid who grew up in rural Kansas and I felt a greater resonance with this urban black kid due to my age and troubled home life than I ever did with Superman. He was complex, explored nuanced issues, and just awesome in general. The fact this guy hasn't been given a new cartoon or big screen adaptation yet is a travesty.

[@666styxxx666]

And don't forget about his best friend a nerdy techie powerless white guy who was his unashamedly sidekick assistant ( pity Richie didn't flirt with Sharon if even to distract her from her suspecting her bro was a super )

[@Krypton853]

@@666styxxx666 He does have power he gain became more smarter.

[@666styxxx666]

@@Krypton853 true he did eventually get a power up Richie for the most part did the sidekick bit on smarts alone unaware of the upgrade he would gain ( I so need to re watch the series it's been forever since it was on TV) my initial point was he backed his friend regardless of lack of apparent powers " while relying on memory of a show I watched way back when and years of new shows adding to my long list of what was watched/read/rebooted since the 70's 😝yeah I'm that ancient I stood in line for the original star wars "

[@Ikiya69]

Exactly!! Static has a huge fanbase and it's disappointing that they didn't make any Static movie

[@bunnyattic0009]

Bro yes! Static was lit!!! ⚡🔥

[@Mantikal]

Blade is back as you've never seen him before. This summer Gal Godot is blade !!!

[@richthompson2937]

They are doing a boys in da hood 2 with white guys lol

[@arcadeinvader8086]

I hear blade will be played by two kids in a trenchcoat to appeal to the demographic of people who identify as two kids in a trenchcoat

[@micah459]

What makes this even worse is that it's Kal-el that they're making black. They're not even using the tokenized versions from the comics that are already black 🤦🏾‍♂️. Someone on Twitter said it perfectly when they said they'd rather see Icon from Milestone instead

[@xQuandaleDinglex]

I’d LOVE to see Icon! 😩

[@enochabraham688]

What??!?! Oh that's just about the greatest example applied-Shadow-Realm mechanics I've ever seen

[@SoraMatt]

Sadly, Calvin Ellis is Kal-El of Earth-27. But even so, the people Yas Queening this are utterly BRAINDEAD.

[@micah459]

@@SoraMatt I was talking about Val-zod

[@thestranger9608]

@sj conker Blue Marvel reminded me of Icon. I guess sjws hate a strong and educated black hero

[@EddieDexterStewart]

The vibe is that the majority of Black fandom is with you on this.

[@liliks14]

they don't gaf about black fans, they just give the strong illusion that they do . it's all about them and what makes them look/feel good .

[@hruiz3308]

It's all about woke folks fucking it all up so they can all pat each other on the back and act like they doing something groundbreaking. It's all about them. They give no fucks about the characters and the history. Ol' selfish asses.

[@isaac13d]

I'm in a hundred percent agreement with him. I've made this argument so many times.

[@RogueFox2185]

I remember when I wanted to see my man’s Static Shock back, then he got rebooted and I immediately regretted it.

[@eaglebearer]

I was a huge fan of Static Shock as a kid. Didn't even know they rebooted him. It looks lame.

[@randomperson-up5vt]

That reboot never happened in my opinion.

[@princewya]

@LTNetjak New Static - More like guy who acted on impulse rather than thinking stuff through

[@robertlauncher]

@LTNetjak Oh no why? Why did they do that to him? Tokenized Godfather: Look how they massacred my boy.

[@ZergleJerk]

Static Shock was one of the better heroes period. *Was*

[@1977dajmo]

Hollywood would be wise to watch Justice League and Justice League Unlimited for tips on how to tell compelling superhero stories starring a vast array of characters. John Stewart and Vixen simply existed and worked alongside their colleagues to battle villains and save the world. What a novel concept.

[@MaskedMan66]

Preach!

[@josephterrell5156]

They know how ,they refuse to.

[@GIRRIG001]

@@josephterrell5156 Well they going to say this new man of steel movie made a metric f*ckton of money when this gets released and rotten tomatoes is going to give it glowing reviews. BUT if they actually tell a good story how much more money could they make??? Case in point Snyder Cut Justice League. But for some reason the execs see race politics as lucrative. Don't know why. Sorry not implying the Joss Whedon version had race politics, just referring to the lack quality in the story telling. But it seems whenever they introduce race or gender politics into a some form of media the quality drops by default.

[@jamestoney6599]

This video, so hard. It takes away attention from original black characters and better black authors too.

[@paulyotzuar2788]

Original? Better? They're all copies of the white man characters

[@talentroller4413]

@@paulyotzuar2788 i don’t think you got what he said. he’s agreeing with rippa that them doing tokenisation of the superman, spidey etc takes away from original black characters static, bishop etc

[@GamingGardeningAndLayingSiege]

@@talentroller4413 I thought T'challa was under utilized in his own movie, and was called all kinds of horrible things for it. I was hoping it would be really good after Civil War, and was bitterly disappointed.

[@talentroller4413]

@@GamingGardeningAndLayingSiege agreed. black panther himself was the weakest character in his own movie. Killmonger was the strength of that movie if you ask me

[@GamingGardeningAndLayingSiege]

@@talentroller4413 Well, for me, I feel the main protaganists/antagonists are under utilized. So T'chall, Klaue and Killmonger. It comes down to story structure and writing for me. After seeing the movie, I almost immediately started to think about ways to tell the same story in a more coherant manner, while putting the characters abilities and motivations on display, and leaving room for some awesome action. For one thing, how about T'challa actually using those stealth shoes, to investigate Killmongers movements within Wakandan borders. Killmonger having used the capture (as opposed to the killing) of Klaue. Klaue naturally having made a deal with Killmonger to get at the vibranium. The betrayal of Klaue would happen in front of T'challa, and the other Wakandans, inside their own borders. Killmonger could still blame T'challa for the lapse in judgement to gain control, and we can still see T'challa grapple with his Father's mistakes and the pressures of leadership, to pick himself up and move forward as a character. Sadly, that's just an awesome concept in my mind.

[@void405]

As a white female, Static Shock was one of my favorite super heroes as a kid. I was so sad when the series was not renewed for a second second. I would LOVE to see Virgil done justice with a movie of his own.

[@derekcoxii2771]

Static Shock had 4 seasons. They are all on HBO Max I think. He really does deserve a movie

[@bashengatheblackmanta7003]

Static is a character that have potential since he's very popular,his movie would have been the coming of age type movie

[@elislifestyle4605]

@@bashengatheblackmanta7003 He's the spider-man of the dc universe. They would make a lot of money.

[@bashengatheblackmanta7003]

@@elislifestyle4605 dc has so many "spiderman like" characters, not only static but also blue beetle, the recently sideway. But l'd defently go with static and static movie set within the dceu would add something in the dceu aswell as put the focus on meta human. The tear gas that mutated them could be part of a bigger plot within the dceu.

[@void405]

@@derekcoxii2771 Oh wow! I looked back and forgot just how many episodes there were. Static's been off the air way too long. I clearly remember the boat sinking in the last episode, but I can't recall a lot of the smaller plot points. Like I clearly remember things like Virgil's trip to Africa, seeing his mom, and when Reggie got shot, but I can barely remember the girl with the color changing hair and skin.

[@ethanarc]

"THEY JUST WIPE THE CRUMBS OFF THE TABLE & YA'LL EAT IT UP!!!" I love when Black Geralt goes off 😂

[@dunringill1747]

Same 😂

[@shahman76]

I am not a black man, I’m south Asian. And I’ve got to say, you’re right. And bless you for calling out Ikon. I want to see an Ikon and Rocket movie. Or Iron Butterfly onscreen.

[@MaskedMan66]

There is an Icon fan film, which is pretty good, although Rocket is portrayed as a total jerk.

[@thedelordhimselfgokublack]

Icon and Hancock are just rotting on the shelf

[@godemperorphatty7185]

"it's not integral to his story" His story was originated in a visual medium...It is legitimately integral to how the character was envisioned by the original marginalized creators.

[@damoncurrie7103]

Yeah I always wanted to see a Jewish Superman and I'm saying that unironically

[@joshjones9749]

That's such garbage. If Superman was created during the time he was created, in the country and state he was raised in...his experience would CERTAINLY be different being black. The character would be different, thus...race being integral to the character. Its the same thing with making Magneto black, you have to rework his entire origin. How is that not integral again? The whole "not integral to story" thing is just them waving off the issue of race until they conveniently need to use it themselves.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

@Ghost Troupe black panther doesnt have to be black. the whole story couldve been in south america starring native americans and wouldve worked equally well. or it could have been in the jungle in south east asia. the only skin color he cant have is white because then the whole "hidden high tech civilisation" plot points wouldnt make sense.

[@Cannibaltron]

Always wanted to see Bishop depicted in the MCU movies

[@lillpoetboy]

Agreed

[@brandenjenkins9479]

Yes, the movies did him and Darwin dirty!!

[@jamesalexhowlett]

Bishop is a fucking beast, he got shit on in the DOFP movie

[@emperortrevornorton3119]

Yes one of my favorite character

[@chrisgreig98]

@Jamal Jenkins Nah, that gave it a bit of international flavour. The X-Men universe was always filled with actors from across the globe. Magneto (Irish/English), Xavier (Scottish/English), Wolverine (Australian), Beast (English), Deadpool (Canadian), Nightcrawler (Scottish/Australian) and so on.

[@robertomaldonado3454]

Superman is literally my favorite fictional character of all time. It hurts to see WB fuck him up again.

[@reidmason2551]

I've been watching him be torn down little by little since 1986. After "Rebirth" and *BvS,* I couldn't take any more. Superman at this point is just a ruined shell of a once-great character, and I'd rather see him fade away than put up with more degradation.

[@ADG.Est.1988]

Agreed. Oh and I'm a so called black man

[@ADG.Est.1988]

@@reidmason2551 say it again

[@JordanWheeler1999]

@@reidmason2551 exactly how i feel with marvel as to how disney made the mcu so diverse to the point people acts like marvel is some short of woke and colorful fest

[@BRIGHTJUS]

Its GONNa be 🔥

[@UMCorian]

"No one's going to buy or get invested into a black character unless he was originally white." - Woke Philosophy, 2021. Amazing.

[@anubusx]

Very true and wise words.

[@DgardsGaming]

meanwhile, Blade, etc. are sitting on selves 😞

[@Raccon_Detective.]

@@DgardsGaming And Spawn.

[@SaintHakim504]

DC Only wants a black Superman so people can forget about how they treated Ray Fischer. I see through the BS. Great video as always

[@RollingDodge]

I thought the same thing, we treated Ray Fischer bad, here take this.

[@JR-ju3kj]

They want a black Superman because they're idiots. They've already got Icon,President Calvin Ellis(who is basically Barack Obama with super powers),Val-Zod and Steel but instead of using those great characters(I know about the 1997 movie for Steel with Shaquille O'Neal and I think it sucked and that it needs to be rebooted),they're making Kal-El black. Superman hasn't been anything other than Caucasian for the better part of a century and Warner Brothers thinks that people are just going to accept this? Good luck with that.The backlash is going to get ugly and they deserve it.

[@christianhenry4173]

@@JR-ju3kj I have no problem with the original Clark Kent. The problem is with Superboy who is underrated. Or better yet look up Batwing.

[@megamanxhunter]

That's what it's about. And Marvel Comics is guilty of this too.

[@RollingDodge]

@@megamanxhunter , I agree, that's why I don't care about the DCEU or the MCU/Phase 4. Tired of the pointless race and gender bending of characters. Or the wack ugly costumes and changes that're unfaithful to the source material.

[@redacted1093]

I will never support a black Superman just like I'd never support a white Jon Stewart.

[@giornogiovanna845]

Exactly. Some of these smooth brains believe that just because you don't support changing traditionally white characters that means you like seeing black characters changed... Like NO....I want to see the characters as they were conceived given a chance mannnnnn😕

[@jovenc4508]

The difference with War Machine is that he wasn't created to replace Iron Man like Riri. He became his own hero with his own style.

[@fatetestarossa2774]

INDEED

[@davidhughmiller]

War Machine Roxxxx

[@dwainpannell4931]

James Rhodes literally replaced Tony stark

[@themaker2149]

@@dwainpannell4931 yes but he wasn't created to do that. He worked for him, replaced him then became his own hero he had history before replacing tony

[@JordanWheeler1999]

@@dwainpannell4931 you are talking about the mcu not marvel comics in general

[@cap-ml7ky]

7:10 "They get left on the shelf..." Damn bro! That hits hard man. You can tell this dude is really passionate about those characters.

[@carriekube7357]

Remember when Hollywood took a risk with Blade and made a successful trilogy of movies.

[@adamfox9651]

Wokey Maos: "Blade who?"

[@slayermill8621]

They did it with a headcase who everyone says is impossible to work with in Wesley Snipes too. I remember seeing the first one in the theater at 15 years old and loving it. Back in the good old days when no one cared about race.

[@kylewood4488-b9r]

A comic book character that is a half vampire and he goes around killing other vampires with big sword. Also he is black. I liked the movies however the 3rd one did not age that well.

[@GJBattles]

@@kylewood4488-b9r Guilty pleasure for me.

[@adamfox9651]

@@kylewood4488-b9r Most every film series eventually hits the wall at some point.

[@darkstarmedia]

A third Superman reboot since 2006, and yet Spawn still waits to be done right after whatever happened in 1997.

[@bradmiles1984]

Honestly as cheesy as it was I enjoyed that movie for what it was. The HBO animated series though was closer to what spawn should of been.

[@JR-ju3kj]

Well,Todd McFarlane has been talking about doing a reboot for over the last 13 years now and he still hasn't done anything on that front so we'll see if it ever happens.

[@MyAramil]

Or static shock. or could have used john stewart.

[@gslang3489]

The Spawn movie was amazing and to this day Is still amazing.

[@madzec]

We really are going back in middle ages where people are hired based on their gender and skin color and not based on their skills and quality of abilities

[@gamechannel1271]

What makes you think people in the middle ages valued anything except skill when it comes to survival? This is simply a product of living in a rich country with so much free time they got nothing better to do. Our ancestors would scoff at us.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

@@gamechannel1271 in the middle ages there were no multicultural/ multi-ethnic societies in europe. the roman empire was one though. and they didnt care about skin color at all, they only cared about money.

[@doro626]

When I first heard about Hancock, I was excited to see a character with SUperman's powers, without his middle America origin. I felt they dropped the ball in a few places, but that was an entertaining movie. Can I have a sequel to that?

[@scottbieser]

A very good Black "Superman" movie was made back in 2008. It was called "Hancock" and starred Will Smith.

[@westjohnston3389]

To be fair: it's not a DC comics owned character. And they have one of those too: His name is Icon.

[@anubusx]

Hobbs and Shaw.

[@boisycopelandjr]

I feel bad the original characters in dc and marvel who don't give enough attentions. Seriously Blue Marvel, Steel, White Tiger, etc. All the original, diverse characters they got and they keep doing this.

[@derrickcrawford1081]

Maybe it's because they feel the White characters are way more popular and recognizable to the public and general audiences

[@Gaia_Gaistar]

@@derrickcrawford1081 The general public didn't give a crap about Iron Man and Captain America either but Marvel still ran with them and made them popular. The idea you can't do this with original black characters is ridiculous.

[@Stanos_1]

I would be very surprised if Blue Marvel isn't in The Marvels. Considering his hero name and his relationship with Monica Rambeau, it would be perfect.

[@ThreeLions82]

@@derrickcrawford1081 That shouldn't be an excuse.

[@Lastjustice]

@@derrickcrawford1081 If Marvel can turn Rocket Raccoon and Groot into household names then that is just a cop out to not use original characters.

[@victormelendez1074]

WB had a great opportunity to do a black Superman movie....He is called ICON!!!!!

[@AntiLifeEquation1]

@@Snesgamer Conservative Black hero with a diehard liberal black female partner! That movie would be perfect for today's divisive times. It could actually show differing opinions and ways to solve conflicts contrary to their experiences.

[@jean-mi1825]

They have Calvin Ellis... And he's the President of the USA in his own reality.

[@luckyraygun1607]

@@AntiLifeEquation1 if only we could get that movie but nah nowadays if someone has a different opinion then you pretty much means you can’t be friends or anything that involves them

[@theblackhairedweirdo4511]

@@jean-mi1825 so basically Superman Obama

[@junebug4310]

Yes! Thank you!!

[@nickgoodlock263]

Changing characters to please people who don’t even like comics is insane 💯

[@albumkosong]

I don't think anyone in this world want to see Clark Kent to be black person. They already have a lot of great characters that are black

[@JR-ju3kj]

True but who says that that the executives at Warner Brothers who green-light these decision like comics,themselves? I don't think that they do.I don't think that they care about and respect the source material or the fans-they just care about money.And I get it,this is a business and you need people like that in any company,Marvel Studios has people like that,too but I think it wouldn't hurt if the people making these kinds of decisions at these big studios are fans,themselves-just like how Kevin Feige is a big fan.

[@cecilwindbush4555]

True dat!

[@TheSuperappelflap]

@@JR-ju3kj its not even a good way to make money. WB could probably draw a lot of marvel fans in by dropping the woke garbage. hollywood is just too disconnected from society and too creatively bankrupt to stop doing what theyre doing

[@jadenkorr32]

1. Ignore legitimately diverse and well-developed characters 2. Tokenize a revered character to antagonize the fan base 3. Prep ‘toxic fans’ hit pieces prior to movie release 4. Fans reject Movie, because the fans are ‘toxic’ 5. Rinse. Lather. Repeat for next IP/character.

[@princewya]

It's sad how it's become a cycle....

[@jadenkorr32]

@@princewya Indeed

[@jimthar17]

In this instance it will be racist, not toxic. They will blame whites for its failure.

[@rjrowley3887]

"Have I ever told you the definition of insanity?"

[@THEAdmiralXizor]

I am a Black man, and I do not want a Black Superman movie... I want an ICON movie. Milestone Forever.

[@teewill975]

I agree 100% with u

[@bradmiles1984]

Exactly a way more interesting character. With him being on earth in the comic since way back plenty of opportunities for flashbacks showing him in different eras. He's a much more complex character.

[@THEAdmiralXizor]

@@bradmiles1984 Wonderful points! They won't do it, though... For a simple (and terrible) reason: Icon is Black... AND A CONSERVATIVE. I can't imagine Coates writing a guy like that without either changing him or dogging it and ultimately quitting...

[@bradmiles1984]

@@THEAdmiralXizor Yeah if only Dwayne was still with us, he'd of been great at writing a movie for the character he created.

[@DHeartX]

From one black man to another, I agree with ya.

[@TheAdventuresofTNT]

THANK YOU!!!!! This video needed to be made! I won't be supporting this movie/character and I will be advocating for everyone else not to support it either.

[@jamesduffy8381]

As a white guy I fully agree with you. I’m not massively into comics but this has caused me to read up and there’s a tonne of original black characters that aren’t getting a fair shot. Great content 👍🏻

[@halhala2]

Steel, Aqualad (Kaldur'ahm), Black Lightning, John Stewart, Static, Kid Flash (Wally West Jr.), Batwing, Icon, Guardian, Rocket--really, do I need to go on? OH, and how could I forget about Vixen and Mr. Terrific?

[@jamesduffy8381]

@@halhala2 exactly my point. I don’t know there was that many the problem is worse than I thought! 👍🏻

[@bradmiles1984]

@@jamesduffy8381 oh there's many more than that, he's just making a point.

[@siputhijau8253]

@@halhala2 john is my favourite green lantern haha

[@halhala2]

@@siputhijau8253 I grew up on John Stewart through JLU. The man's a boss. I didn't even know Hal Jordan existed until that one time travel episode.

[@alexandermoua5936]

Guardians of the Galaxy proves that you can have an unknown character/characters to be great. Yet they still don't want to do that. In this case, black characters.

[@ADG.Est.1988]

Guardians of the galaxy was not unknown property. Brotha allot of comic fans well true comic fans were well aware of the guardians

[@forbbiddenn]

This is like "hey lets make the original character black so they think we are not racist anymore"

[@TSPH1992]

Boring lazy, cut gay

[@sodokami6347]

Well what they could do is give us actual black characters instead of turning characters black

[@realchocochoco]

@@sodokami6347 isnt Calvin Ellis and Val Zod based from the comics?

[@sasakelala3360]

no it is more like "people need to learn to HATE anything white. We need to erase any established white character to achieve that". and the wokes and POCs and the younger generation lap it up. (with some exceptions)

[@solidusosiris38]

@@realchocochoco Right.

[@mokeish]

Icon, Black Lightning, Green Lantern John Stewart, Static Shock, Batwing, Vixen, some of my favorite Heroes in DC.

[@Cleron_O_Andarilho]

They could do Steel who create his own armor, John Stewart, Static Shock, Black Lightining, Mr Terrific, Vixen,

[@andrews4717]

John Stewart is one of the times a black character taking a mantle works. The green lantern name is a great way to cycle through characters with different backgrounds and personalities while still maintaining the core concept.

[@Cleron_O_Andarilho]

@@andrews4717 Yeah, because he is not a one character, Greean Lantern Corp is basically a space police and anyone who have strong will can be a green lantern.

[@Cleron_O_Andarilho]

@@Snesgamer True, its like being a power ranger hahaha

[@jean-mi1825]

John Stewart will be one of the two main characters of the upcoming HBOMax Green Lantern show, the other one being (obviously) the New52 rebooted GAY VERSION of Allan Scott 🙄!

[@Cleron_O_Andarilho]

@@jean-mi1825 Well, if they can do that with Ray Fisher, i will not see this show.

[@ContemporaryCompendium]

"Can't say colored folk but you can say person of color which is the same f'ing thing." YES! Thank you for calling that out!!

[@itsadoggo3772]

it's funny that he said that, on twitter I saw people get so triggered cuz a white woman said colored people it was so dumb they were sayin its POC! and called her a white bitch, etc smfh

[@kaymarzo5507]

why the hell are we still using the phrase "person of color" anyway? The last I checked, it was 2021 not 1969!

[@raam726]

White is a color, black is the absence of color.

[@elislifestyle4605]

@@raam726, nobody is really black tho lol black people look brown

[@ajtaylor8750]

There's a perfectly good Black Superman in the character "Icon" that would make for a great film, but they would rather tokenize Superman instead because it fits their agenda. Yes, I know there's a Black Superman named Calvin Ellis.

[@derrickcrawford1081]

I don't know why they just can't use him

[@patricktorres1292]

Not just ellis, but val-zod to r just trash fucking tokenized versions of Supes.

[@anubusx]

Idris Elba is black Superman.

[@peytonibarra8992]

"Hear me out, what if we made the Flash black?" So you want to make the fastest man in world to be black? Isn't that, I don't know, kinda *racist?!?!*

[@TengokuEXE]

They should have just put Icon in the DCEU and have Superman mistake him for Kryptonian.

[@davidmeloche3563]

Just like the comics. Or hell, Martian Manhunter was already established... but that's "Snyder verse" so it must be ignored.

[@johnnyjohnny2990]

Dwayne McDuffie is rolling in his grave 😔😔😔

[@kaymarzo5507]

Damn,that sounds cool.

[@christoki1362]

The tragedy is you Rippa not running Marvel or DC. Imagine how successful they would be.

[@bofi1280]

@digifalc0087 Wait, Rippa gonna make comics or somethin?

[@sectphiro607]

@@bofi1280 hopefully, and recruits like minded individuals.

[@bofi1280]

@@sectphiro607 That's dope!

[@christoki1362]

Gate keep the hell out of sjws from coming in which he would do.

[@sectphiro607]

@@Snesgamer exactly

[@sladeloper7714]

Dude, if they made an Icon or Vixen movie, I'd be in the theater with freaking bells on! Those characters are amazing!

[@juicesbynate]

Preach... waiting on Animal Man & Vixen

[@TheMovieHowze]

I feel like each wonder woman movie shouldve been used as a spring board for fellow dc heroines. The second film could be vixen and cheetah and the third could be maybe hawkgirl

[@rainofkhandaq6678]

Well, keep in mind they can turn these characters into feminists or social activists all the same, there's no escape.

[@rainofkhandaq6678]

@@TheMovieHowze I would say Zatanna.

[@TheMovieHowze]

The Gheist oh duh fuck yeah zatanna all the way for wonder woman three, use it as a soft set up for a justice league dark movie!

[@leonzetsu7324]

in japan, the artist draws and writes or works with a writer they approve of, and the editor actually gives quality and story feedback that matters. unless the US comic industry hires real people at the head of this company and does a whole revamp, The future is bankruptcy, indie companies, and OC characters. And they will die with the rights for the characters and never give it back to the artist, just look at the static shook real history hell.

[@matthewtimmerman3643]

There is one positive to come out of this: Thanks to DC, Marvel, CBS/Viacom, Lucasfilm, and every other company embracing woke non-entertainment, my wallet has never been happier.

[@derrickcrawford1081]

Yeah but what the heck can you spend it on since this kind of crap is literally everywhere

[@DrakeKnight99]

Manga and Anime

[@matthewtimmerman3643]

@@DrakeKnight99 , agreed. Outside of catalogue Blu-ray releases, anime is pretty much the only modern movie/TV entertainment I spend money on these days.

[@youhavetoguessit]

Every time they tokenize a superhero, I make it a point to not ever give that creator money again.

[@redchariot4006]

An Icon or Steel movie would more interesting than a tokenized reboot of Supes

[@Elfrunner]

I'd love to see a new Steel movie. Shaquille O'Neal didn't exactly knock it out of the park back in '97 playing the character.

[@wahidpawana424]

@@Elfrunner it's at least an entertaining dumpster fire.

[@admirekashiri9879]

Facts

[@Elfrunner]

@@wahidpawana424 Not sure about that, the movie's rather boring, and Shaq can't act. I'd rather watch Superman IV.

[@Jensenr8r]

There was already a Steel movie, Shaq was Steel

[@shawnboahene5231]

Could have used static. He’s popular enough to have his own show. Has Peter Parker-esque relatability and cool powers

[@rivansan]

What about the actual black Superman character DC has icon?

[@azfar188]

@@rivansanThat wouldve been cool too

[@irv_n3373]

@@rivansan also they have blue marvel and John Stewart

[@johnszana]

The fact that they would go out of their way to produce characters to pander to a specific audience, they would miss out on doing an Icon movie

[@JTeam45]

Even Twitter normies hate this, I've actually seen nothing but hate for the idea of black Kal-El from both sides of the aisle.

[@cassy6295]

when you can actually agree with people from twitter you know its REALLY bad

[@ifiwantyoutofeel]

People hate wb in general they don't know what their doing

[@madridistasejati5358]

Yes, there's Val Zod who actually black Superman. Why make Kal-El black?

[@Edward_Ardy4671]

@@madridistasejati5358honestly, val zod and calvin ellis seems to be sort of like tokenization as well.

[@aleccampbell7707]

Black Kryptonian sure, but Kal-El is one of the most iconic comic characters (along with Batman)

[@jamalbryant8099]

I love your rants

[@keshiaanders6452]

We kind of already have a black Superman, he's name is "Steel" & he tried his best to fill in the hole Superman left after [Superman] was killed by Doomsday.

[@anubusx]

Idris Elba.

[@adansanchez8839]

Shaq played Steel in the 90s . Real black Superman 😎

[@patricktorres1292]

Please don't bring up that shitty ass rendition 😂

[@andrews4717]

John Henry irons is a great superhero in his own right. He's a man who put himself on superman level through the power of his own mind, crafting a supersuit to take up the mantel in clarks absense. Shaqs movie wasn't very good, but I hope Steel gets another chance to shine

[@patricktorres1292]

@@andrews4717 Please don't bring up that mantle shit, he's not Supes, he's his own character, Steel.

[@Elfrunner]

@@patricktorres1292 But that's what the character originally did, took on the responsibility of Superman following the character's death. Like it or not, Irons based his whole suit scheme off Kal-El's, with the "S" emblem and cape. He even called himself the Man of Steel before shortening it to Steel. It's alright, it doesn't detract from his appeal at all. He's also really obviously based on folk hero John Henry.

[@Brolygarcia92]

Yeah... No

[@Marcustrh]

cant stress the enough the lack of missed opportunity to uplift our already existing black heroes. i really appriciate this video fam

[@angelabby2379]

it's sad these black folk doesn't only seek legitimacy from white characters, they also seek legitimacy from European culture not african culture they would rather see black people dressing up as queen and duchess wearing european gown in european palaces rather than black people as african culture in african clothing. thats why we have 0 shows on african culture, but we have many shows like bridgerton, black ariel, black tinker bell, black anne boleyn, black greek gods. these people aren't short of white actors, they purposefully changed it to black. just to seek legitimacy in fantasy and appropriation while ignoring their real african culture which never got any love not even by their own people it's sad :((

[@cowlico]

Because they really don’t know about the already established heroes, even with the Black Panther, most of the people who didn’t read comics had no idea who Black Panther was. I showed my nephew one of my original BP comics and he said he wished he’d known and felt ashamed for not knowing more.

[@cowlico]

@Mahogany Abridged I agree, I thought I was BP when I was a kid!! I mean between him and the Falcon it got hard sometimes picking who to be, and here you got people who think Wakanda is a real place.

[@benjyyx]

@Mahogany Abridged Same shit with Superman. They want to race swap an already established white Superman and make him black. They are LITERALLY painting Kent in black LMAO ! This is how they want to promote black culture, by stealing and washing other characters. But why don't they use already great and amazing black characters that are in comics? Because, as you said, they don't know shit about them. Nobody reads or has at least a little form of decency to read about comics. Or at the VERE LEAST to do some research about other multiverses in comics and other characters. I do this as well, i don't read a shit ton about comics, but at least i have the decency to know more than only what's put on screen. Fans nowadays (and companies like WB) don't know shit other than what's put on screen. They want a black Kal-El, but they use Kent and blackwash him. Why not use CALVIN ELLIS for it? The dude is exactly what they are looking for. And he is, at least in my opinion, an amazing and very interesting character on his own. I would love to see him in a movie or series. It would make a cool story. Of course, you could argue that he is not as cool or interesting as Kent Superman, but let's be honest, you could say that about a lot of other heroes of any color you want. The point still would stand, Calvin is a very cool character.

[@kslikk34]

Keep preaching. You opened my eyes on this subject years ago.

[@dsanemadman]

@YoungRippa59 you are 10000000000000% correct and could not have said it any better. Full respect to you man

[@Necromonger69]

Black Superman, the hero nobody wanted and no one asked for.

[@spiderleenie]

Morons: “You’re a racist if you didn’t think that Black Panther was the greatest movie of all time! Why don’t you love black superheroes?!” Me: *still waiting for a kickass and epic Spawn movie*

[@screamrad218]

I’m still waiting for a Spawn film. He’s a badass character!!!!

[@derrickcrawford1081]

@@screamrad218 there was a spawn film

[@SleepyDonnnn]

@@derrickcrawford1081 Yeah and it wasnt that good

[@spiderleenie]

@@derrickcrawford1081 There was, and it was gutter trash lol. The HBO animated series was pretty good though. Keith David’s voice acting was so badass.

[@johnnyjohnson1326]

A kick-ass Spawn not that mess they already put out lol

[@LibraGamesUnlimited]

This movie is going to make the Hindenburg look like a Winnie roast.

[@Krypton853]

Static Shock doesn't get enough love Instead of how he was In his original show they made him Into a sidekick In Young Justice.

[@CartwheelJoe]

I mean in Young Justice due to his age it would make sense to put him on the leagues younger team. They did have Black Lightning on the team as his mentor though

[@Cyclobomber]

I think it was a problem of a character being bought out and no one knew what to do with him, and certainly no editor wanted him to be better than the already established homegrown ones. Which is stupid because you give Static a little "prove yourself" arc, give him his welcome into the team, and there you go, give him his own series too maybe.

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

Dude when i see what they did to him on the Reboot... I see they NEVER cared about they praise to defend.

[@jarlbalgruuf7701]

Bruh I just want the actors to actually look somewhat like the characters they’re portraying

[@ジャンボ-n1k]

Facts!!

[@tiba2603]

Same

[@jeremytitus9519]

Don't know how "getting energy from the sun" would be an argument for a _higher_ melanin count, anyway.

[@regiman222]

Sounds more like an argument for a milk white, ginger superman

[@lorenzohaynes3886]

It’s because of melanins relationship with the sun. Even then, it has nothing to do with a Superman comic.

[@Rubedo2k10]

Not even John Stewart don't get much love now at days. Man, back in the day he was the shit.

[@igodreamer7096]

I remember that, speciality from the Justice League show

[@666styxxx666]

John Stewart was da bomb he defined earth's lantern hal Jordan was a benchmark Stewart rewrote not even guy gardener could touch or damage , back in the day Stewart Was the lantern fans loved

[@JR-ju3kj]

He's STILL the shit.I blame Warner Brothers for not utilizing great characters of color.That's all they had to do! Simple enough,right? Race-changing a character who has been white for almost 100 years and who is recognized and thought of that way the world over is not what anyone in their right mind would think of as being anything even remotely close to being a good idea.

[@aleccampbell7707]

@@igodreamer7096 I remember him only from JL but Idris Elba casting sounds good?

[@igodreamer7096]

@@aleccampbell7707 Maybe, but him already said being not interested to play this role, what is a pity

[@takadg3242]

Man thank you so much for this video. Ive tried to bring up a lot of the very points you discussed and of course being a white man i was almost immediately dismissed as being "racist". I grew up with these characters and i want nothing more than to see them be portrayed the way they deserve to be.

[@cheeseburgersuperior1874]

Still no ICON movie, series, video game and animation. Yeah...

[@andrews4717]

He was pretty good in young justice. But he needs more appearances in media

[@leonevelake]

He had some brief appearances in Young Justice which was cool

[@3AHoles]

Just let it sink in that were getting a big screen adaptation of Black Superman before they ever give us John Stewart Green Lantern. Never let them lie to you again that it's about showing minorities on screen. It's about race baiting and sowing division.

[@ultimateslinger9857]

John Stewart is probably my favorite green lantern. I’m kinda bummed their giving us black Superman and not him

[@kylewood4488-b9r]

I really like the green lantern in the Justice League animated series.

[@ultimateslinger9857]

@@kylewood4488-b9r That’s reason why I like him so much as a character. That show really did him justice

[@chihiromononoke9381]

This is facts! They could do the awesome Milestone characters who were created by black creators.

[@jothecocopop]

"But Eric! What about my cousin's sister's brother's aunt's uncle's nephew's young child? He'll get to see himself in a ''''''B''''''lack tokenised character because his parents didn't bother to instil confidence and self-esteem in him as a kid!!11!11!"

[@nigelwilliams7179]

The fact that yo can’t see yourself in another human being because of their skin color is different is literally self segregation

[@Sp3c9000]

Yup, I as a non-black woman can't possibly identify with (the original) Static just because he doesn't look like me. Makes so much sense. 😑 These people are ridiculous.

[@TheNo15]

As a kid my favorite characters were from Generator Rex, Secret Saturdays, and Ben 10. Each show has a main character of a different race. It didn't matter to me what race they were, but rather their personalities and the awesome things they did. Man I miss those times.

[@jothecocopop]

@@TheNo15 As a kid, you don't even think of any of this shit. All you cared about was "Wow they look so cool doing this, I wanna do that!" and so on. What kills me is that kids are now being told that this way of thinking is not only the correct, but also progressive.

[@ainsleydavid9721]

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[@cameronblanch4010]

Thank you! People be making me feel like I'm the crazy one for hating the idea of Black Superman. Sick of these diversity hire incarnations of white characters. We have sooooo many great black characters that exist already!!!!

[@walktown1983]

From all the black friends and colleagues that I have met throughout the years since the 90’s in my childhood to adulthood, none of them have or had ever mentioned that they wanted a black Superman, or any other traditionally white superhero to be black. It’s like wtf!

[@zparkplug2788]

fr - speaking as a black woman it bothers me so much when i see ppl turning characters black - why not come up with a new character? instead of drawing black sailor moon, why not make up your own magical girl character who is black

[@bradmiles1984]

@@zparkplug2788 The stupid part is there are so many interesting black super hero characters to choose from like Blue Marvel, Icon, Static, Vixen, Jon Stewart, Steel, Spawn, Blade, Rocket, etc, etc.

[@SAINTxSZN]

@@bradmiles1984 Cyborg, Aqualad, Bronze Tiger

[@lillpoetboy]

Can't have a Black Captain America with out a Black Superman, I mean c'mon man!

[@tiphotisted]

Where the hell has Spawn been anyways? He's a popular character and would do pretty good in the ratings if he had a reboot.

[@derrickcrawford1081]

Didn't his creator start a very successful Kickstarter campaign or something?

[@RandomPerson-i5p]

They would ruin spawn please don't give them ideas

[@wahidpawana424]

He's too busy being awesome without any political agendas knocking on his door.

[@kilemiller6519]

Spawn hasnt gone anywhere, last year hit issue 300 and currently turning into a multi spawn spawnverse and is still successful enough to be the only comic on the stands at $2.99. A new movie has been in the works aswell as being dlc in the latest mortal kombat game and a very successful kickstarted action figure. They just dont like talking about spawn cause he was created by a white guy todd mcfarlane.

[@seanhart956]

I'm a little surprised Spawn hasn't been remade. Effects are so much more advanced now, it could be a crazy good film.

[@synds354]

I feel like you are a voice for all ethnicities that are called racist for not liking characters not based on source material. Thank you for voicing your opinion and being 100 percent with us.

[@ChristineP223]

I’m not an African weather goddess or a giant green lawyer but I still admire the gracefulness of Storm and the confidence of She-Hulk. I don’t care that we share no physical, societal, cultural, etc similarities. They are still two of my all time favorite characters. Only unoriginal, narcissistic, and uncreative people have to have themselves reflected back at them at all times.

[@j2174]

Same. I am not a woman, but I love characters like Rogue and Storm.

[@human-tk2fo]

I on the other hand, am a lady, and I often relate to male characters, I love how Captain America always does what he believes to be right, and how (mostly in the comics and cartoons) the Hulk exhibits amazing self control and gentleness in spite of his strength and rage

[@spectra1977]

Same, I've never cared if the protagonist is male, female, black, white and everything in-between. It could be an alien or an android whatever..... The only things that matter are well written characters within great stories. This POC and white narrative exists solely to drive us apart . This woke anti racist agenda is creating hate and racism like I've never seen in my lifetime. Another decade or so when the elderly have moved on racism would have been dead but that won't do so they have to install that hatred into new generations because unfortunately many people don't look at the big picture. They are told that the other side hates them so people do what they've always done when they're scared..... They close ranks and reflect it back. Man, I can't wait to retire to a quiet little island somewhere away from the crazies. ✌️😀

[@toxicmelody6228]

I hate this representation bullshit.

[@tadeogomez8107]

I think that if someone can’t relate to another human being just for his skin color he lacks a fundamental hability of what makes us humans, empathy.

[@Idnesra]

YoungRippa: This isnt helping comic characters that started as black Me: This is going to put the Superman/Lex Luther rivalry in a weird place as a white guy tries to keep a black man in check as he questions his motives.

[@Tysich]

In the Arrowverse Vixen exist but got a bloody animated mini series with about 5 minutes per episode on bloody CW Seed. And that was all to justify a crossover.

[@swamisalami3000]

We are now in Blackula territory only terrible.

[@Ragmesesis]

BLADE!!!!! He is One of my Favorite characters of all Time

[@lankymk]

Blade is my coolest movie character ever, and that character to me is a black man, not a white man or a white women or a black women but....A..... Black......Man.

[@Ragmesesis]

@@lankymk He is a Black Man but i dont care About his skins color. I care about what he is to me, he is an awesome characters bad ass hero, that can Kick vampire ass, with a strong personality, with inner struggle that people can relate to regardless of what type of skin you have. If someone did to him what they are doing to Superman i would be angry the same way. The new actor That they Cast does not convince me, Weasley was a real bad ass in the movie, i hope this new actor can fill his shoes. You should see also the books not only the movie to see how awesome he is.

[@lankymk]

@@Ragmesesis It's all about identity politics nowadays, a great character is a great character, people forget that. A characters identity does play a part of course, any fleshed out character will be a certain gender or race or nationality ect, which doesn't necessarily define who they are but becomes part of the character itself. Which is why people identify the characters as such (which is perfectly normal thing to do). Which is why swapping characters identity is met with resistance, it's not racism or sexism ect, your fucking with a set character. Add the annoyance that it's only one way, those that demand such changes only want it one way, ie Male to Female or White to Black, it unsurprisingly pisses people off. (The outrage of "white washing" characters while also wanting to "black wash" characters, the double standards are amazing)

[@Ragmesesis]

@@lankymk yeah sadly its like That.

[@sectphiro607]

Funny thing is, the original blade was nothing like in the movies. He was cocky and boastful, in the movies he was stoic and more reserved. Wesley Snipes made that character his own.

[@brandonanthonyjohnson802]

9:55 mark is the funniest. “Both Marvel and DC have these massive encyclopedias!” 😆

[@cowlico]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@alimrashid9765]

😂 when he picked up the massive book!

[@MaxMustaevanescence]

This!!!! You gained me as a loyal subscriber man

[@dopejedi6644]

Remember that the black Superman was called steel.... he made his own suit and fought the good fight while Superman was dead.... or is that not enough???

[@sebastianthegamingking8619]

Yea but steel has no super powers and was only a short time he was never a real superman. He was fake made a suit and clammed to be a superman

[@irvins8160]

STEEL literally hast the potential to be WB's Iron Man and they just sit on their ass and do nothing with him.

[@halhala2]

@@sebastianthegamingking8619 Technically incorrect. He did claim to be A Superman, but not the original. Much the same way as Nightwing or any of the Robins being "Bats," calling him a fake would be improper, since he never postured himself as the original, unlike so many of the others during the War of the Supermen. John Henry Irons' only aim was to carry on the LEGACY of Superman, and he made that clear from the jump.

[@sebastianthegamingking8619]

@@halhala2 who cares he sucked as a superman in the wars

[@halhala2]

@@sebastianthegamingking8619 Whether he got his ass handed to him was never the point. He carried the torch by taking on the actual core of Superman, which was never about how strong he was. None of the other pretenders did that. If you don't get what I mean, then I'm not sure you get the point of Superman in the first place.

[@da4762]

I grew up watching the DC animated universe. Never was able to get into comics. Glad you're here to inform us. Cheers.