YoungstaCPT Speaks On Coloured Identity Politics & Clears Up Rumours

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Slikour Onlife

Slikour Onlife

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@jeanjeftha
@jeanjeftha 5 жыл бұрын
As a coloured man I would say its not that I dont identify as black , I identify as coming from African decent. Saying that we dont want to be black is both correct and false. Yes i understand that my forefathers was of african decent mixed with whatever . But at this moment my culture and way of life is far from white or black. Im proud to be who and what I am. We as coloured people have our own way of life and as Youngsta said withing the Coloured community there is also "tribes". For instance Youngsta is Coloured+muslim. I am coloured christian. Youngsta to me also falls under townian where as I am more platteland. To summarize : Yes we are african, yet we are also of a totally seperate "tribe" , not better nor lesser than other african tribes. If we called ourselves African and not black or coloured then we might start integrate ourselves more into each others way of life
@uhadibenga5639
@uhadibenga5639 5 жыл бұрын
What many Coloured people do, which doesn't make sense is, speaking for all Coloured people, saying "we Coloured people are this or that. There are Coloured people who identify as Black, there are Coloured people who don't want to be associated with black, there are Coloured people who dont want to be associated with "Coloured", there are those who feel, the Coloured community is victimised, there are those who are racist and who victimise Blacks, etc. BTW all tribes in this country have a unique way of life that is common to the area they live in. Xhosa and some Coloured people in EC have an identical way of life that is different from some Xhosa and Coloured people in WC who have an identical way of life.
@zukilemshuqwana1830
@zukilemshuqwana1830 4 жыл бұрын
I Agree bro ive seen my self as an african born and raised in cape town my great grandmother was a koi san from maclare eastern cape
@dreadedking5762
@dreadedking5762 4 жыл бұрын
@@uhadibenga5639 Also you, you can't speak for us
@uhadibenga5639
@uhadibenga5639 4 жыл бұрын
@@dreadedking5762 Lol the irony. When you say "also" you are agreeing that nobody is the spokesperson of all Coloured people, and yet you're being a spokesperson when you say "don't speak for us". BTW I wasn't speaking for Coloured people,I was simply pointing out what you've just done.
@dreadedking5762
@dreadedking5762 4 жыл бұрын
@@uhadibenga5639 you have a point, lol
@Reezy_Tha_Fundraiser
@Reezy_Tha_Fundraiser 5 жыл бұрын
These conversations about coloured identity is important, and this is dope
@viwemfaku
@viwemfaku 5 жыл бұрын
This is an important conversation... and It is not an easy one to have without sounding offensive. But the only thing i can speak on is that saying Bush Man or Khoi San is not black incorrect. Because even xhosa tribes has clans that are descendent of the Khoi San hence the clicks. Sthathu. Chisana. Ndebe. Khophoyi. Nkom’ezbomvu ezimnyama ziyaxhelwa . Mashiya mahle. Ndlebe zintle zombini. The biggest crime to the African people was confusing them of their own identity.
@thamsanqakhumalo5114
@thamsanqakhumalo5114 5 жыл бұрын
I know get the genius behind the lyrics. This man is to Cape Town what Blacklez is To PTA. Highly intelligent but because of the way the Hip Hop industry is set up in S.A, they will not be appreciated by the masses because he does not make 90% Club Bangers. Thank you for educating through your lyrics YoungstaCPT/ Youngsta786
@CC-jw8cj
@CC-jw8cj 5 жыл бұрын
being coloured is complex and not everyone is going to understand that "coloured" is not a fixed identity. hopefully one day it will be less complicated. so it's important that we dissect it.
@tomoyamazaki8867
@tomoyamazaki8867 5 жыл бұрын
Big ups to SLIKOURONLIFE, the main stream media wont show such deep and true conversations about identity and race etc, huge shutout to this channel, i watch it almost everyday !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@slikouronlife
@slikouronlife 5 жыл бұрын
Thank u
@bakihanma2122
@bakihanma2122 4 жыл бұрын
I like how this guy is forcing his opinion on youngsta telling him that he is black and brown is black just so that he can make himself feel better. Big up to youngsta for not blowing a fuse and not taking this personally. In this democratic republic of SA it is anyone's right to be who they say they are. This type of mentality is exactly why coloured people are struggling with who they are. People are having an American ideology of what being black means and so they take that, coupled with the nonsense learned from growing up in apartheid and come up with their own idea of what happened in the past. I Also like how he kept quiet when youngsta spoke about his religion as a coloured because he didnt know anything...but was correcting youngsta when he was explaining that the Europeans met khoisan and not explicitly bantu or black people
@jackpotwinner8486
@jackpotwinner8486 3 жыл бұрын
I’m from the uk and been researching on SA hip hop and this is one of the best interviews I’ve come across from Silk. From the outside looking in I’ve always looked at coloureds as black but I’m glad to be more informed of the complexity of this topic.
@lukhanyongqendeshe8499
@lukhanyongqendeshe8499 5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate this conversation. Thanks brothers. It's a very awkward conversation but needs to be put out there. I live in Cape Town and we are separated in the society and in many cases we only know each or about one another by meeting at the work place or at school. It's gonna take these type of conversations to see us grow. Bless up guys
@LB_die_Kaapie
@LB_die_Kaapie 5 жыл бұрын
You see the thing is that in Cape Town since coloureds and whites lived in and around the same areas even before there was coloureds the Khoi Khoi and san lived there alongside the whites it was hard for the whites to just cordon off land where coloureds lived as being our homelands because it would be in the same areas as the whites. So what happened was they kicked all coloureds off our lands and moved us to the flats. That’s why it’s so segregated. There wasn’t many blacks in Cape Town until very recently in our history so that is also a reason why blacks have their own townships away from coloureds and whites because that is where there was land for them that wasn’t occupied. Anyways, contrast that with places outside of Cape Town, let’s say KZN. Where zulus already had there land in a seperate area to where the whites were in zululand. So the whites didn’t have to move you away from their area because you already lived away. So what they did is set up bantustans where you already lived you didn’t lose anything weren’t moved (on the most part because I do understand that some blacks as well as some whites were moved because they weren’t seen as living in the right areas) necessarily. I don’t know if that helps but that is the gist of what happened and how it’s different to the rest of SA. Also we have.a 170 year longer history with interacting with the white man then any other South African black so our relationships with them will be a little different than your relationships with them.. I would love for you to maybe ask questions and I can help where I can and maybe I’d love to ask you questions so we can understand each other better. Because I know most South Africans know very little about coloured history shit even a lot of coloureds know little of our own history and o know I’d love to know your history of your people. Maybe you can tell me something about it if you reply?
@lukhanyongqendeshe8499
@lukhanyongqendeshe8499 5 жыл бұрын
All I know is a lot of history is written in a way that whites at the time covered a lot of truths. So respectfully I think blacks did the same interaction with whites in other different parts of the country too. I also know that there are different shades to being coloured but like Slikour alluded that coloureds in most cases want to only associate with just the white side of being who they and not the black side. I have a lot coloured friends who are in hip hop and to me it always seemed as though they didn't quite appreciate AKA for instance because it seems he came across as more black than necessarily coloured or he seemed to affiliate himself more with the black vibes than otherwise. More history will unfold and I'll do my own reading as well. There's room here for both of us to be wrong and right at the same time because we all know how history has been distorted by those who wrote it. It's a divide and conquer mentality that's out there.
@LB_die_Kaapie
@LB_die_Kaapie 5 жыл бұрын
Lukhanyo Ngqendeshe You right there are many different shades of coloureds. The thing is brother most of us are descendants of Khoisan regardless of our mix. So some will have Khoisan and European mix others Khoisan and Asian mix or other Khoisan, European and Asian mix. And then you have to add those mixed with East Africans from Madagascar and Mozambique as well. So ja we have many shades depending on what mixture and how much of that mixture you have in you. But we see each other as one people because what connects us (on the most part) is our Khoisan heritage. As well as the unique coloured culture that we have which draws from all of our different ancestors cultures. Now tell me about yourself, your peoples history? I know like you said we are all right and all wrong at the same time but still at least we can learn about each other and come to an understanding. And this includes with white people. Shit I’m not white so I have no idea about what they like or there cultures really. I hang out mostly with non whites so I know hardly anything about them same as blacks.
@LB_die_Kaapie
@LB_die_Kaapie 5 жыл бұрын
Lukhanyo Ngqendeshe A book that I read which is quite good although not classified as a history book as it’s about Shaka and the Zulu nation but in a story format. Is called ‘washing of the spears’. It’s done by an outsider a Canadian so he is no bias and draws from history told by some chiefs he met in KZN and other sources. It’s quite good as it goes from when the white man landed at the Cape who they interacted with then onto the groot trek and the rest of our history :) check it out of you can.
@mapoosesafaree3039
@mapoosesafaree3039 4 жыл бұрын
@@lukhanyongqendeshe8499 I'm sure you also hang out with people who still call coloured people derogatory names. Do you correct them or do you join them?
@mthokozisilutseke2646
@mthokozisilutseke2646 4 жыл бұрын
The brothers are busy debating Khoi being black or white.. But none stops and think about the whole racialisation topic.. There was no classification on racial lines before there was Europeans in the cape. It was those who wrote who then decided to differentiate black and white.. When we were all black we didn't know we were black because there was no other complexion.. It's more complex than we all wanna simplify it. The truth always evolves with new knowledge.. Facts change. So yah it's really a bit complex a subject
@nothingrsa3659
@nothingrsa3659 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the teachings brothers. Whether we identify how... I respect ya'll
@slikouronlife
@slikouronlife 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@banelebuthelezi219
@banelebuthelezi219 5 жыл бұрын
i feel youngsta CPT, the colored culture is really ignored because coloreds really aren't really considered black or white, unlike in states where they all blacks. I understand his story and much respect for him
@nkqubelaphikwa8237
@nkqubelaphikwa8237 5 жыл бұрын
This conversation is deep
@alexthewax
@alexthewax 5 жыл бұрын
The apaches are coming for you! Much respect #RealestLiving
@eldridgetlhapane8868
@eldridgetlhapane8868 5 жыл бұрын
Maaahhnnn, inspiring for real!!.....Shoutout to the accident happening,"Do i look like im a criminal"....wish it could carry on Haha
@lukhanyongqendeshe8499
@lukhanyongqendeshe8499 5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Tutsi and Hutu tribes. Apartheid has done so much damage that it brought about things like skin lightening/bleaching and has made some who look darker feel as though they aren't beautiful like the light skinned people
@listenup2882
@listenup2882 4 жыл бұрын
Hutu and Tutsi aren't really tribes. They were more like social and class divisions.
@mphomofokeng7113
@mphomofokeng7113 5 жыл бұрын
I dig the debate gents. I want to correct my brother Youngsta tho. The Khoisan is a black tribe bro, They are lighter yes, but sotho people are lighter than Shona people for example does that mean one of the tribes is not black? using "Black" in this context is just wrong coz we are talking about an african man. before the white man came ,there was nothing but black people in Africa finish n klaar.unless we want to say the different shades of black make some blacker than others
@raaiqdamon5410
@raaiqdamon5410 5 жыл бұрын
The only race is the human race
@michaeladams3029
@michaeladams3029 4 жыл бұрын
Sotho means brown in some other language"Sootho" therefore they saw themselves as brown
@listenup2882
@listenup2882 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaeladams3029 you fo know that Black people are really brown right?
@michaeladams3029
@michaeladams3029 4 жыл бұрын
@@listenup2882 do you mean brown people are really black. Because the issue is that most of not all brown people don't expect their black.
@listenup2882
@listenup2882 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaeladams3029 Black is just a term used which is applied to people of different shades of brown along with certain types of hair. As we know race is not a biologically based concept but rather a social construct based on arbitrary physiological traits such as hair texture, skin colour and facial structure. The term Black is as much a cultural term as it is racial and references people of African descent or African cultural traits. I am not sure that anyone is literally Black but we know what is meant by Black in most societies.
@thatomaunye2443
@thatomaunye2443 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant interview! Although I felt like Siya might have been too close to the topic but that's what makes it great. big up to youngsta and the Slikour onlife crew
@slikouronlife
@slikouronlife 5 жыл бұрын
Too close like?
@afsaactionforsocialadvance2519
@afsaactionforsocialadvance2519 4 жыл бұрын
On the issue of coloureds owning their white heritage and not their black, this is the residue of the cultural conditioning visited on us during colonial and then apartheid eras. The busman is African the same way that the Zulu is African. The term black was created by the British to seperate anyone that was not as what they described themselves, which is white. Throughout Africa, most Africans dont identify as black coz that is not a term that Africans gave themselves. However, as a coloured/baster born and raised in Windhoek, lived in CapeTown and now living in London, i identify as African, not coloured or black. Saty woke my ma se kinnez. Salute. Ekse Youngsta, come do a show in London my broe...
@slikouronlife
@slikouronlife 5 жыл бұрын
Hi @lonelyboy @lukhanyoNgqendeshe @mphomofokeng and @flakkagoat I'm loving the conversation between yall its educational and enlightening. Thanks for your perspective,
@decktator
@decktator 5 жыл бұрын
The thing most black people in SA dont understand is that after '94 we coloured people were all for us being called black. After all we also had brothers in the struggle that fought for what we have today. The problem comes when black people tell us 'but you're not black, you're coloured!'. Where does that leave us? Fighting to be something that doesn't even want to accept us? The Western Cape was made up of the Khoi-San/ beach combers. Not black people, blacks never arrived in the Cape till much later! Blacks have no claim on the Cape, the Khoi was there first. Are all coloured Khoi??? To some extent yes, but we cant be called black (as much as we want to) when blacks refuse to identify us as black also!
@lukhanyongqendeshe8499
@lukhanyongqendeshe8499 5 жыл бұрын
@@decktator with respect brother I think you're confused. The so called Khoi people are black Africans period. And I really don't think it's the African blacks that call coloured people with that term to try and keep them out..keep them out of what? Blacks in most cases are the 'have nots' and so no one wants to be associated with the have nots. We can all agree that there's a divide conquer element all over this and some some are buying right into it. Some like being thought of as special for whatever reason. Peace be upon us.
@SamSoosi
@SamSoosi 2 жыл бұрын
Slikour, like I heard your voice somewhere. Love this sesssion.
@michaeladams3029
@michaeladams3029 4 жыл бұрын
for those coloured people of Khoisan descent they must know that they more closely related to black than white because some sub Bantu ethnic groups like Xhosa adopted the clicks and culture. Some Xhosa clans are of Khoi descent and Xhosa people have 30% of Khoisan genetics. Sotho people adopted some of Khoisan culture, music instruments and herb knowledge when the nation was founded. Intermarriage between the two also happened.we are more closely related not just by bloodline or genetics. I am just saying would you want to own up to your white side where your culture is not passed on and leave out your black side where your culture still lives. All am saying is if it happened that there were no indigenous Khoisan people left and culture was lost within the coloured community. black would be where u choose to learn some of your culture. Lesotho is praised for being one of few countries able to protect their culture and most of their land during those times of apartheid. "After all we are learning" youngsta said. Great music #yourbarsaretooheavycpt✌️
@MrGillie12
@MrGillie12 5 жыл бұрын
I’m born in Cape Town for 16 years, currently live in Australia. If I said the term kulerd I’d most likely be arrested, it’s considered a derogatory term. But I always notify myself as black and so does the rest of the world apart from South Africa.
@rowanforgus
@rowanforgus 5 жыл бұрын
Love YoungstaCPT but he seems a bit confused on this subject. The way I understand things, Coloured is just another black tribe just as Xhosa, Zulu, Venda etc Yes we coloured people have our own culture, language etc but so do each of the other individual black tribes. The sooner we accept and embrace this fact the sooner there will be unity among all black people in SA. 🇿🇦
@aliseinwonderland6232
@aliseinwonderland6232 5 жыл бұрын
He does seem a bit confused... N i'm not hating on him; I appreciate that he starts the conversation in spaces where often people do not want to confront Coloured identity - so respect to him, but I felt a bit unsettled with some of his views - at one point he mentioned the slaves that came from Malyasia - which wasn't the case; they came from Indonesia... N I did not agree when he said the Khoi-San are not black, while they did not identify as black prior to the colonizer , in todays context, black often means 'of African decent'. Us as coloured needs to embrace our African heritage and decolonize our history
@courtney9865
@courtney9865 5 жыл бұрын
Except that coloured people have a completely different genetic admixture than black people across all tribal groups. So your point is moot.
@courtney9865
@courtney9865 5 жыл бұрын
@Alise InWonderLand There were Malaysin slaves. Why do you think there are literally a coloured subgroup called "Cape Malays"? The Khoi San did not identify as black because there were big differences between them and the other Bantu "black" groups, not just physically but in regards to their languages and culture's and social structures too. There is nothing wrong with acknowledging that coloured is a distinctive group from blacko or white, even though oddly enough you never hear anyone tell them to claim their European or Australasian heritage. It's not anti-black to want to be seen as having your own culture.
@michaeladams3029
@michaeladams3029 4 жыл бұрын
@@courtney9865 So wait, if Nigerian have uniquely distinctive head shape and Ugandans have the tallest and most darkest people does that mean thier not black. "Khosian people have Chinese looking eyes, therefore not black" younsta said. And Africa does not have only 2 ethnic groups "khoisan and bantu" there are other groups like pygmies and many more. If you were to refer Bantu groups as black so other groups are not black even if they say they are?
@michaeladams3029
@michaeladams3029 4 жыл бұрын
@@courtney9865 There are many tribes within the Bantu and some of those tribes may have similar if not same cultures and languages. For example tribes like Xhosa people took some of the language and click sounds from khoisan. If I'm not mistaken the word Xhosa means fierce in khoisan language. While on the other hand while Sotho national was founded in the Vaal or orange freestate ,Sotho people adopted some tools , language clicks ,some instruments including culture and herb knowledge towards thier aim to build a peaceful national.don't forget when Bantu people and Khoisan people met, sub groups exchanged information like the bantus iron made tools and Khoisan rare beads or beadwork. Beadwork which Xhosa people wore which in that time was made from ivory. Extremely rare I say. they also intermarried and other sub groups like Xhosa have 30% of Khoisan genetics.
@lukhanyongqendeshe8499
@lukhanyongqendeshe8499 5 жыл бұрын
I myself I could say I look a bit like Youngsta and I was once living in the coloured community with my cousins who till this day identify as coloured. I then came to the personal conclusion that being coloured is more of a state of mind than anything else and it's rooted in apartheid
@courtney9865
@courtney9865 5 жыл бұрын
Well as someone who is proudly coloured, to me being coloured is a label that I wear proudly because it constitutes a wealth of cultural experiences that my black friends cant relate to, the same way their "blackness" consists of experiences I can't relate to. It might have started with Apartheid but it's evolved far beyond a mere "racial category". It's a cultural distinction.
@hopettmac2702
@hopettmac2702 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much slikour🙏🙏🙌🙌🙌
@lubabaloleleki3697
@lubabaloleleki3697 5 жыл бұрын
Avid listener of the Slikour's interview, damn this guy has perspective - I HAVE YET TO ARGUE/DISAGREE WITH HIM IN MY HEARD.
@slikouronlife
@slikouronlife 5 жыл бұрын
thank u
@mogamatyusufmartin9171
@mogamatyusufmartin9171 3 жыл бұрын
True we should not forget brasse Vannie kaap ,poc ,black noise etc,still listen to them
@christopherbeilings71
@christopherbeilings71 5 жыл бұрын
This man is an intellectual. Would love to have a convo with him on coloured culture
@listenup2882
@listenup2882 4 жыл бұрын
Intellectual? Where?
@lindagabela182
@lindagabela182 5 жыл бұрын
So drawn 🔥🔥🔥
@nooglewebsomo5094
@nooglewebsomo5094 5 жыл бұрын
What does colour matter though? Before apartheid nobody worried about skin. After apartheid it seems to be all we talk about. Safeguard your heart, that's what defines you!
@KryptonIstheFuture
@KryptonIstheFuture 5 жыл бұрын
dope interview
@uhadibenga5639
@uhadibenga5639 5 жыл бұрын
There is something that a lot of Coloured people don't know because they get their HIStory from the twisters of history, (Europians), and have not bothered to seek out and learn from knowlegable Africans, who have not been robbed of the knowlege of our ancestry. By the time Europians landed on this land, there were NATIONS of TRIBES, and small tribes who were not attached to NATIONS. Xhosa for example was a NATION, a union of TRIBES and not simply a TRIBE. It consisted of tribes of the Abathwa (who are carelessly defined as "Khoisan") as well as tribes of the Amanguni, who stem from the "Bantu" lineage. Khoikhoi and San are just two tribes which fall under Abathwa (they are found in the Xhosa NATION to this day, identifiying as Abathwa and are BLACK people, while some Xhosa identify as Amanguni, also BLACK people). The Jali clan, for example, are Abathwa "Khoisan", there are such clans as Jola, Gqwashu, etc, who are Xhosa-"Khoisan". Therefore people like Andile Jali are what you would call "Khoisan" and they are Xhosa and they are BLACK. Coloured people who live in Gauteng would have heard Xhosa people refering to them as "Majola", it is because, Jola is a Khoisan clan of the Xhosa NATION. "Khoisans" are also found in the Sotho, Tswana and Pedi tribes. It is for this reason that we, who do not learn from Europians, our history, know that the so called Khoisan are Black people, because we are also "Khoisan", but accurately, Abathwa in addition to being so called "Bantu".There were a series of wars, the 100 year FRONTIER WARS, starting in the late 1700s, faught by the Europian settlers and the Xhosa NATION. These wars, you see, were being faught by the Xhosa TRIBES on one side and on the opposite side were the Europian Land Thiefs and Cattle Jackers, joined by some opportunistic African clans, including some non-Xhosa "Khoisans" and some seperatists of a Xhosa clan led by Chief Ngqika. Shaka Zulu would found the Zulu Nation in 1816 and cause a humanitarian crises in what is now KZN, displacing thousands of Nguni people, during a period of chaos known as "iMfecane", "Difaqane" or "The Crushing". Some of these displaced Nguni clans would become "Amamfengu" as they fled to Xhosa land, some would join the Xhosa NATION, of which they are still a part of and some would fight for the Europian thiefs. At the end of it all, these BLACK people, the "Khoisan" and the "Amamfengu", who faught for the Europians, would be forever seperated from the other BLACK people, the Xhosa people.Eleswhere, in what is now, Cape Town, there were enslaved people, defined as Coloureds. They were born of Abathwa woman or "Khoisan" woman who had been raped by the Europians during the Genocide which took place there, starting in the 1600s. These children would have been seperated from their mothers from a young age and raised by the colonisers seperately, to be slaves and taught to despise the BLACK people from which they came. The aforementioned BLACK people, who faught alongside the Europians would later be grouped under the Coloured race. It is this reason that, Cape Coloureds have approximately 40% "Khoisan" DNA, 30% "Bantu" DNA and 30% Europian DNA. Later Europians would bring in slaves from various parts of the world, further "distancing" Coloured DNA from the Indeginous BLACK people.It's important to know, why Europians "created" the Coloured race and continue to tell a twisted version of their history and the history as well as origin of BLACK people in this country. They've done it all over the world. It's their classic "devide and conqour" strategy. They also do it to create confusion so that no one in future will demand the RETURN OF THEIR LAND. Thats why when BLACK people started demanding the return of our land, some confused Coloured people started making noise about "First Nation what-what" and "Cape Exit". It is all a slave mentality, an anti revolution "house negro" mentality. Ten years ago, most Coloured people rejected "Khoisan" identy, proclaimed and proudly claimed "Coloured". Most derogative terms of "khoisan" such as "Aff Springer" are from Coloured people and now some Coloured people suddenly want to be called Khoisan. Most Non-White, Non-Indian people in this country have "Khoisan" DNA, not just Coloureds. Some Coloureds ofcourse are not effected by this idea of a racial hierachy, created by Colonialism but some are. They want to be "African" but nooo, they cannot be group with other Africans, they have to be something else, something exotic. Well, try something else, not Khoisan. Khoisan is BLACK, not brown, not red, not yellow, we're BLACK.
@aliseinwonderland6232
@aliseinwonderland6232 5 жыл бұрын
I'm of the belief that the San and Khoe Khoe and various clans birthed from these groups are black due to their African origin. You pointed out that coloured people rejected Khoi-San identity - however you failed to expand on the history of this statement - Coloureds were dehumanized for their blackness hence they were called bushmen with derogatory intent - lets not ignore the malicious intent by the colonizers to strip coloured people of their culture. Coloureds had a headstart with the oppression @ the hands of the colinozer; they are the decendants of the Khoi-San who first encountered the colinizers and thereafter the slaves that were imported, hence the Afrikaans language which is prominent in these groupings. Now I agree too that Khoi-Sans assimilated into various bantu tribes as well with the arrival of the Bantu; however just as you accused coloureds of rejecting their Khoi-San identity; you have to admit; Bantu tribes did not claim their Khoi-San heritage, many see them as a separate group all together and do identify with them- hence the lack of representation of these clans during the years of our democracy, these people were forgotten and erased. They were not included in the House of Traditional leaders until last year if im not mistaken - why is this? Surely the coloured rejection was not responsible for their erasure? Only at present are people are claiming their Khoi-San heritage due to the larger conversation surrounding this topic. And since it's hard to discuss the Khoi-San without mentioning the land debate - Coloureds are in no position to deny Bantu Tribes their rightful belonging in the land of Southern Africa, likewise coloureds should not be excluded from the conversation all together - which so often happens; that is the lack of representation that minorities experience - this only will fuel a divide
@uhadibenga5639
@uhadibenga5639 5 жыл бұрын
I do agree that Coloured people descended from the first "Khoi-san" to encounter the settlers. My point is that Coloured people are not the only people who descend from "Khoi-san", "Khoi-san" is present all over sub-Saharan Africa and is Black. They shouldnt think "Khoi-san" is seperate from other Africans (not Black). Also, "Coloured" does not only descend from Khoi-san (on the African side). This is very important in the discussion of weather Coloured people are Black or not. The difference between Coloured people and Black African people is the non-African DNA carried by Coloured people. It is for this that those Coloured people who truelly identify with their African heritage, proudly identify as Black, they appreciate the fact that their African side is not different from Black people. For this same reason, I say, they are hypocrytes, those who say, "we are African but we are not Black". They might as well say "we are part African", that would be accurate. You mention that "Bantu" people have never claimed "Khoisan". True, but know that "Bantu" people have never claimed "Bantu" iether. Europian Antropologists coined the term Bantu People because "Bantu" is a word for "Human" in most "Bantu" languages. Africans have always identified as people of a certain Tribe or Nation. Xhosa people identified as Xhosa people and thought of all non Xhosa people as "Intlanga" (Other Nations), regardless if they were "Nguni"or "Khoisan", however, within each Clan, exist knowlege and history of the Clan's origin (Nguni or Khoisan). Lastly, Khoisan is not the only tribe that is fighting for recognition, many tribes such as Hlubi are not recognised in our democracy. These tribes were all destroyed by Colonialism, therefore "our democracy) is not to blame.
@aliseinwonderland6232
@aliseinwonderland6232 5 жыл бұрын
@@uhadibenga5639 Likewise the term khoisan was coined by a German zoologist, yet I use it out of convenience or as an umbrella term when referring to numerous clans; likewise, my use of the word Bantu is my reference to Nguni Tribes. We agree on the fundamentals, but there needs to be more honesty surrounding this conversation, many in leadership failed the Khoi-San - despite their brutal genocide, having been headhunted by legal permits, the exploitation they endured on wine farms and so forth. I certainly do not blame our democracy, however those in power did not invest in nor represent these minorities much of these 25years. However I am pleased to hear that the Nama language has been introduced into the syllabus of two schools in the Northern Cape, to some extent these revival groups (if we can call it as such) have managed to bring awareness to valid concerns - however I will not fully support their movement if their ideology is dismissive towards Nguni Tribes. If anything this movement should unite us, not divide as currently outplaying. And on the topic of Coloured identity and blackness - yes we have Non-African heritage, but due to colonisation we're the product of an African creolization - the heritage of colonizers, slaves, indentured labourers, Bantu and the Khoi-San; with lack of freedom of movement - this community was born out of an environment that lacked free will. Yes, Coloureds need to embrace their blackness.
@mapoosesafaree3039
@mapoosesafaree3039 4 жыл бұрын
Benga your history book you've written is totally wrong. San and Khoi were never two different tribes, but rather different clans! Where did you get your research from?
@uhadibenga5639
@uhadibenga5639 4 жыл бұрын
@@mapoosesafaree3039 The so-called Khoi were farmers (cattle and crop) who joined the hunter gatherers "San" much later. The "San" entered "South Africa" from Namibia while the "Khoi" came through Botswana. How in the world can that be the same tribe. All of us descend from East Africa. The so-called San are known as "Ama-Qheya" by us Africans and were lighter in skin tone ,they were the first to migrate South West ward, followed by other groups. The so-called Khoi have a reddish skin tone. All these groups, including the so-called Bantu did merge, to an extent in South Africa and that's why most of us carry the DNA of all of them. Remember that Europeans had an agenda to divide and conqour us and they're still committed to that strategy.
@mandlenkosithusilesmashb4853
@mandlenkosithusilesmashb4853 5 жыл бұрын
YOUNGSTA!!!!!!!!!!!!
@neodibakwane2568
@neodibakwane2568 3 жыл бұрын
My take is that yunga has colorism/race confused...is he implying that people who are light skinned are a different race than us black people...also it's we have to point out that the "bushman" are not the only light skinned group in southern africa...are the light skinned groups in southern africa a different race than us black people?
@sibongilemavimbela1326
@sibongilemavimbela1326 Жыл бұрын
Can I share my findings with you guys??
@adrevanderwesthuizen7262
@adrevanderwesthuizen7262 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with YoungstaCPT to some degree when he talks about coloured people being "mixed" but mixed with what? The mostly male slaves - ancestors of (especially) coloureds in the Cape - who were imported from East Africa, South Asia, Madagascar, Guinea (etc) also "mingled" with the Khoisan women in the Colony. The Khoisan had a large population in the area at that time. At some point, these male slaves greatly outnumbered the Dutchmen and the English, who colonised the area after the Dutch. So, "mixed" children weren't ONLY conceived as a result of the colonists' rape of black women, but also as a result of sexual relations between the slaves and the indigenous Khoisan. Edit: the majority of these male slaves were from East Africa.
@thelyt3339
@thelyt3339 4 жыл бұрын
All descendants of slaves in every country today are the same nation the nation of israel GOD's chosen people but we dont know who we are due to almost 1400years of slavery first the arabs enslaved us then the asians then the whites now the blacks if we dont keep his commandments it will never stop read deuteromy 28 whole chapter
@tyron07
@tyron07 4 жыл бұрын
@@thelyt3339 I've been writing about this. The modern day Israelites is the ancient roman soldiers that stole the culture, religion and tradition of the jews.
@thelyt3339
@thelyt3339 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks someone that really do research salute
@thelyt3339
@thelyt3339 4 жыл бұрын
@@tyron07 rememeber so called coloureds are not indigenious to south africa they were brought here on slaves ships our identity is in the bible its our history book contrary to popular belief every person on earth that has a male ancestor through linage which was in chattel slavery is an israelite is our true identity and i can proof it
@tyron07
@tyron07 4 жыл бұрын
@@thelyt3339 Hai. No I don't agree with you on that. Don't forget the same bible you read was put together by the very same roman people who crucified Jesus. For years they lied about him being white. They took out some books that they thought goes against their believes. The weapons they used to colonialise people again after human rights, was by converting them to Christianity. They came with a bible. Missionaries. The true Israelites is the Khoesan people. Whom are the ancestors of the coloureds in South Africa. It is also proved that 90% of the worlds population have at least 1% Khoesan DNA genomes. The San is the oldest modern day human on the planet and the Khoe was the biggest army. The bible was the weapon of the oppressor. They used the bible to justify them being more superior, etc. We can't believe everything that the bible says, cause not everything the bible says is what Jesus says. The could be illuminate for all we know. The aim of the Satanists is to built a one world government(rulership). Christianity is a type of rulership. Jesus in the Bible said that He didn't come to bring people together. He came to bring division between father and son, mother and daughter, etc. Coloureds aren't slaves. Most of them waa Khoesans before apartheid. They share the most Khoesan DNA across themselves then any other race in South Africa. The were the first children to be born for the Khoe and San after they colonialised Southern Africa.
@ManDownSA
@ManDownSA 5 жыл бұрын
Touched
@bryansafie6708
@bryansafie6708 5 жыл бұрын
YoungstaCpt respect from da plain🙆 & we still don't got love for the police
@tombimashri8149
@tombimashri8149 5 жыл бұрын
Our Black familh, the problem is if coloureds agree to be xsld black the thing is black people only accept coloureds in principle but never in practise, they make coloureds feel they dbt belong. Coloured people come in different shades bc they were made by asians/blacks, aravs/ blacks, white/ blacks so if blacks 2ant them ti be cslled black they hav to accept all coloureds with their different shades of colour. Africans are vriwn or black as its stated but they have different tribes and they accept it, Being light skinned is also a tribe. My question is why are coloureds axpected to be abd completeky do things the bkack way. We all human beings butvwe all have different traits in certsin aspects, why do Coloured people get all the shit, they were not even involved in slavery. The coloureds never had both parents in thrir lives to guide them they were cheated in life. My brother u say yr hv mixed children andd u tell thm they ar black, but guess what whn they go out there your fam and friends will make them feel they are nit black enough and the whites also do the same. Its just whites are very diplomatic whilst blacks do it openely. How do u all think coloureds feel. Its hard no win situatikn no matter how u live your black peopke and relatives, you will always be an outsider, its in your face. At tge end of the day Coloureds were made born and bred in africa and everywhere in the world. So what should happen to them. Blacks accept coloureds, who divuded people and raxes. Coloureds did not choosevto be cald coloureds, mixed, molatos etc. Many dark skined blacks throughout asia are coloured and they dnt realuse.majority blacks who had children frm indians, pakustans, lebanese, chinese, arabs sudanese are dark skinned. Most blacks only accept dark skin as black, if u lighter u not accepted as black. Very sad
@fay-yaadhahmoodley3087
@fay-yaadhahmoodley3087 8 ай бұрын
Your comment is the only sensible one. People are ignorant about how DNA works.. they think race is defined by skin colour, truly lacking in sense. Apartheid rules according to academic sources states anyone of mix blood is classified as coloured.. so why are black people still confused that Coloureds aren't only created from white and black but from anyone who is different and there is blood mixing.
@YungMayhem95
@YungMayhem95 5 жыл бұрын
he's spitting facts
@theonseptember3941
@theonseptember3941 5 жыл бұрын
using the wrong terminology, using Black when describing Bantu nation. Khoisan is not Bantu. Young is talking right.
@senzodunywa4611
@senzodunywa4611 5 жыл бұрын
all Africans are black people, the only country that have colourds is South Africa go to Namibia you will find people who look exactly like colourds but they identify themselves as black people...!!!
@uhadibenga5639
@uhadibenga5639 5 жыл бұрын
Igbo of Nigeria is not Bantu iether but is BLACK. Coloureds are not the only people on this continent who have "Khoisan" DNA. There are pure "Khoisan" who would tell you that they're Black. Wrong terminolofy is confusing Coloured with Khoisan. I'm not saying Coloured is Black. Coloured is whatever the Coloured person wants to be, some identify as Black, some dont but make no mistake, Khoisan is Black.
@mihlalimtimkulu734
@mihlalimtimkulu734 5 жыл бұрын
Much RESPEK for OG Yungsta, but i think you confused bro Khoi San people are black bro just because the light skinned doesn't mean they are not black and i think that's the mentality with most colored people in the Flats i can't blame the old folks for thinking like that but as a young nigga and with so much info available its time for change. Reppin Gugs township CPT
@snapting2889
@snapting2889 4 жыл бұрын
We all one guys lets get on
@fistaz2
@fistaz2 5 жыл бұрын
My understanding,,,according to the bible, after the flood Noah had 3 sons: Black, Red and White, the "Khoi (we now call coloured)" being from the Red people race,,,coloured people are originally a race on their own too, but because of the black-white fight so much we actually forget that coloured people arent just mixed, yes when a black and a white person make a child, he/she comes out looking coloured, but still they are a race on their own. then bese comes the South African version: the khois whom the VOC found chilling in the cape, they and the slaves from the dutch east asia colonies then formed the mass majority of the SA coloured people. When the VOC changed their minds about colonising SA, they captured and used the Khois as work force before their slaves from the dutch east asia colonies arrived. Khois and the slaves were all used together as work force and from there came the SA coloureds, having a strong Khoi female gene and the male gene of either, black, indian, white or asian...@slikouronlife, i kinda understand why youngsta's grannd would say "according to them" because not all SA coloureds are a mixture of just black and white.
@slikouronlife
@slikouronlife 5 жыл бұрын
Understood thanks for the insight
@satura4113
@satura4113 5 жыл бұрын
Fool shut your dumbass up. Ham, Shem and Japeth were all black. What the fuck are you talking about. Your dumbass will get taught a lesson by this Hebrew Israelite
@courtney9865
@courtney9865 5 жыл бұрын
@Satu Ra Lmao go back to Wakanda. If All three of them were black then wheredid all the racial diversity come from huh? The world is bigger than black and white you moron. Where did the Asians and Latin people groups come from? Stop getting your validation from KZbin videos that steal other people's history. It's pathetic.
@thelyt3339
@thelyt3339 5 жыл бұрын
@@satura4113 the coloureds are slaves brought to south africa nobody wants to say it out right because south africa are hiding GODS chosen the israelites shalawam satu ra
@satura4113
@satura4113 5 жыл бұрын
@@thelyt3339 please follow me on facebook. I would like for you to break it down m.facebook.com/SatuRamen
@hammacyde1
@hammacyde1 5 жыл бұрын
Race is societal... doesn't exist. What people claim is but ideas. Ideas are just that- creative brain functions. In no way does it mean truth. Unfortunately, race is one of those ideas that most will not get right because of stories embedded in these ideas and how they feel they relate to these stories. Quick note- in Europe for over 2k years European and Scandinavian groups didn't once refer to themselves as white. The earliest documentation of the term white/pale people appeared in Portugese and then Spanish historical writings to describe how people on foreign soil referred to them. In Africa- early historical records show no tribe referred to themselves as black... these race terms became a thing only when we didn't know how to label each other because of basic physical differences.
@matthart722
@matthart722 5 жыл бұрын
listen up Youngsta has spoken
@kingsha2604
@kingsha2604 5 жыл бұрын
Do Your Thing Bro..
@dimpzmaldicion5112
@dimpzmaldicion5112 5 жыл бұрын
It's crazy that he was talking about 786 while I got 786 messages on my WhatsApp
@kimliezlramsavas1310
@kimliezlramsavas1310 4 жыл бұрын
These conversations are relevant but there are coloureds from Durban / KZN too! When are our voices and experiences going to be validated in the coloured historical experience! I'm abit annoyed just a little... hola at me Kim liezl Hoskins ramsavas.
@petertarentaal734
@petertarentaal734 2 жыл бұрын
I met Coloured , actually yall just biracial, you people mos hou you white and windgat against us ghetto Coloured from the E.C and W.C
@nomandla6501
@nomandla6501 4 жыл бұрын
Coloureds will have to one day accept that they have been complicit in allowing themselves to be captured in the mind. One should never sit well in an identity that was created, worse still, created to bastardise you, that is, to not take you as a son or daughter. Not all Coloured are Khoisan and Khoisan is a tribe like any African tribe in South Africa, they are black like all other Africans. This guy needs to read more and think deeply about what he is. Until you accept your Africaness and blackness you will remain enslaved.
@tyron07
@tyron07 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think you can say that. First of Khoesans doesn't recognise any racial identity. Coloured was forced upon them. Before the colonialist came, there wasn't about black and white. They were tribes and clans. Having tribes and clans doesn't automatically make you black. Black is just as much as coloured a colonial and apartheid term, that was influenced by Europeans. So if you disregard the one then you should disregard the other. Forget Black and white, etc. As long as there is a racial identity there will always be racism. We deny any racial identity. All we acknowledge is that we are Khoesan tribe, the Natives of the Country. Coloured already is a racial identity in South Africa just like black. How can you expect them to fall under black? One race under another race?
@michaeladams3029
@michaeladams3029 4 жыл бұрын
@@tyron07 👍 your right one has to ask themselves way did colonizers call them selves white call us black. If u read on European history u will out what black associated with and what white is associated with. before all African were called Ethiopians until slavery it all changed to black.
@snowblak_tsl
@snowblak_tsl 5 жыл бұрын
Youngsta is missing the point,Khoi San are blacks they were just a different tribe
@courtney9865
@courtney9865 5 жыл бұрын
The Khoi San at the time did not identify themselves as black because there were big differences between them and the other Bantu groups. Not just in terms of physicl apperance but culture, language a d social structure.
@michaeladams3029
@michaeladams3029 4 жыл бұрын
Khoisan and Xhosa similar language clicks and some clans in Xhosa are from khoisan descents
@bakihanma2122
@bakihanma2122 4 жыл бұрын
I like how this guy is forcing his opinion on youngsta telling him that he is black and brown is black just so that he can make himself feel better. Big up to youngsta for not blowing a fuse and not taking this personally. In this democratic republic of SA it is anyone's right to be who they say they are. This type of mentality is exactly why coloured people are struggling with who they are. People are having an American ideology of what being black means and so they take that, coupled with the nonsense learned from growing up in apartheid and come up with their own idea of what happened in the past. I Also like how he kept quiet when youngsta spoke about his religion as a coloured because he didnt know anything...but was correcting youngsta when he was explaining that the Europeans met khoisan and not explicitly bantu or black people
@Reezy_Tha_Fundraiser
@Reezy_Tha_Fundraiser 5 жыл бұрын
Coloured is a mixture of Black, white and mostly Khoi-san.
@uhadibenga5639
@uhadibenga5639 5 жыл бұрын
Xhosa is Black and is a mixture of Khoi-san and Nguni, therefore Khoisan is Black. Tswana is Black and is a mixture of Khoisan and Sotho. Khoisan does not only exist in Coloured. Black is not a skin colour but a term that we as Africans have come to identify ourselves with. There are Black people who are lighter than some Coloured people. There are Coloured people who have more "Bantu" DNA than some Black people. "Khoisan" exists all over Africa and it is only Coloured people of Namibia and South Africa who claim that Khoisan is not Black.
@courtney9865
@courtney9865 5 жыл бұрын
And East and South East Asian.
@bakihanma2122
@bakihanma2122 4 жыл бұрын
If you go even further back ull know that...Firstly there is khoi people and there is San people...they were very different and had different "cultural" aspects to them. Khoi san people originated from the veldt and desert in northern cape and the Sahara... San people or bushmen moved further south into the cape area and settled there...they were neighboring tribes...that's when the Europeans came to the cape. Dont get it confused
@mircagardenman7629
@mircagardenman7629 4 жыл бұрын
Coloured or Black. This Is Africa! We are African. Silkour is over thinking this Topic.
@pholozasibanyoni494
@pholozasibanyoni494 5 жыл бұрын
What it takes to be on Slikour? I tried everything i could...
@LB_die_Kaapie
@LB_die_Kaapie 5 жыл бұрын
Keep trying?
@pholozasibanyoni494
@pholozasibanyoni494 5 жыл бұрын
@@LB_die_Kaapie man you have no idea how much like i did everything i recorded every song bro
@LB_die_Kaapie
@LB_die_Kaapie 5 жыл бұрын
Pholoza Sibanyoni I feel you bro but look how long it took youngsta to get where he is! I hope you get to where you want to be man. Don’t give up. Keep grinding and you will get there if you good enough! Also try and make connections my man. It’s all about who you know ;)
@pholozasibanyoni494
@pholozasibanyoni494 5 жыл бұрын
@@LB_die_Kaapie bro thanks for the advise i will humble take it n use it ...the grind will continue
@slikouronlife
@slikouronlife 5 жыл бұрын
You got to post the music on the site moniter the traffic,drive people to hear your song and also build your online presence. Above all this though have dope music.
@LB_die_Kaapie
@LB_die_Kaapie 5 жыл бұрын
Awê! Youngsta teaching the rest of South Africa about coloured history. First peoples history. That us coloureds/Khoi/san had 170years more of fighting the oppressor than any Bantu in SA. We are also the descendants of slaves brought in to the cape from Mozambique, Madagascar, Indonesia (including south East Asian and Chinese people). As well as European refugees. Black South Africans weren’t made slaves like our ancestors as slavery ended before the Boere left the Cape on the Groot Trek. We are the descendants of slaves and slave masters as well as the first peoples of Southern Africa. People better respect! ✊🏽 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
@itsusi3259
@itsusi3259 5 жыл бұрын
We all must just come together and enjoy his history lesson so we can all move forward in trying to bring peace and wisdom to the next generation of South Africans for I myself am of Bantu and Khoi descent but at the end of the day we are all African negros
@courtney9865
@courtney9865 5 жыл бұрын
@ICEO So what happens to the two thirds of European and Asian blood coloured people have? That still male them negros?
@thelyt3339
@thelyt3339 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks bru finally someone i can relate to coloureds are not from africa we were brought here on slave ships everybody just dont want to say it as it
@mapoosesafaree3039
@mapoosesafaree3039 4 жыл бұрын
@@thelyt3339 it doesn't mean because you're a foreigner brought here on a ship, every one is.
@thelyt3339
@thelyt3339 4 жыл бұрын
@@mapoosesafaree3039 did you know slave ships is recorded in bible and clearly there are many scriptures identifying the people of GOD by the way all people in south africa is foreigners
@naledigongxeka4497
@naledigongxeka4497 5 жыл бұрын
The Khoi Khoi and the San were Afrikan people... They were Black People They are not coloureds They are not products of the mix of white men and black women Please stop that mentality
@DvinPrizo
@DvinPrizo 5 жыл бұрын
@YoungstaCPT Khoi is black for khoi is African thee AFRICAN
@1ma4ighter
@1ma4ighter 5 жыл бұрын
sorry guys; 786 is the number of reqards registered for you by the angels when you read "bismillah irragmaan arrageem", just came here to corrrect that
@cxncien
@cxncien 3 жыл бұрын
The khoi were coloured? Ok. Not all of them though, thanks to the genetic diversity in Africa. Small like-asian eyes... again, there's a lot of genetic diversity even among Africans. Check out Botswana bushmen, their language even has those signature " clicks " of the khoi language, and their eyes are asian-like
@abongilengcwangu8167
@abongilengcwangu8167 5 жыл бұрын
Youngsta I really respect your music and love it but I don't agree with what you're saying that the Khoisan are not Black I myself the descendants of them Khoisan and Bushmen. You guys are Black straight up
@courtney9865
@courtney9865 5 жыл бұрын
I have straight hair, green eyes and light olive skin but am coloured through and through. I could never pass as black or even half black. There are coloured people that look Arabic, Spanish, Asian, even white. Why should we all classify ourselves as black? Even genetically up to two thirds of our admixture is non-black (European and Australasian). Never mind the distinct cultural differences. We are not black and that doesn't mean we are inferior or superior to blacks. It just means we're different and that's fine.
@ShayFrmdMalibu
@ShayFrmdMalibu 3 жыл бұрын
The question is are we mixed or are we koisan decent 🤷‍♂️
@laptoppie2
@laptoppie2 3 жыл бұрын
Both
@hairylarry1097
@hairylarry1097 5 жыл бұрын
look what they did to Rashid and Rashad
@anevaluator6606
@anevaluator6606 5 жыл бұрын
but Khoi and San are Africans and they are Black !!
@aliseinwonderland6232
@aliseinwonderland6232 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed, the Khoi-San are black... I feel like he lacked the language or ability to express his views, at one point it was almost like he was trying to say that the Khoi-San were a distinct group to that of Bantu tribes except he kept saying 'black'; and it was a distinction these tribes were aware of; which too I agree from a historical context
@WilliamDampies
@WilliamDampies 4 ай бұрын
The only people who has to be taught about coloureds are those who don't know the history of this country. That is how the bantu tribes also invaded the Khoisan and learned their tradition. Bantu tribes must go define their origins. Don't impose your views on Coloureds. Be your tribe that is who you are. The way they erased the history of khoisan heroes is the way they are trying to erase the history of coloured people. Funny enough you don't hear a word about the coloured heroes who fought against the apartheid government. You hear about Steve Biko, Chris Hani, Solomon Maslungo, Nelson Mandela etc. They are are elevating black people that is why the don't mention coloured heroes.
@brandonross2000
@brandonross2000 5 жыл бұрын
Khoi,black and white are a race of its own...
@sevenblue7201
@sevenblue7201 4 жыл бұрын
Black carries negative connotations. Youngsta's argument is flawed the khoi and the san are black.
@ManDownSA
@ManDownSA 5 жыл бұрын
Slikour check out this new kid Abbey Mas get him on your show bro and check out his music ull be shocked
@shiraajcoetzee9651
@shiraajcoetzee9651 4 жыл бұрын
I think the society should correct the terminology for coloureds it should be light skin blacks, go anywhere in the world, and tell me where do you hear the word coloured? does not matter which country we choose to go to just like "African Americans" there are dark skinned and light skinned, coloured to me is just another racist word that came from the Apartheid era and I think that the word alone coloured gives other race groups many misconception about us just by our skin colour in society successful or not, from my point of view, that word should be banned just like every other racist word that has been brought up from the apartheid era. we are "LIGHT SKIN BLACK SOUTH AFRICANS"
@uSkivvy
@uSkivvy 5 жыл бұрын
slikour pull up with a producer plz....
@slikouronlife
@slikouronlife 5 жыл бұрын
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@lukhanyongqendeshe8499
@lukhanyongqendeshe8499 5 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that the Khoi san comes from the word Xhosa but those who came up with the word could not pronounce the word Xhosa so they took as Khoi san. Just like how some "non blacks" in Cape Town pronounce the word Xhosa as sounding like 'Corsa'
@LB_die_Kaapie
@LB_die_Kaapie 5 жыл бұрын
You’re wrong on that one. They are both Khoi words. Khoikhoi means ‘men of men’ these were the people (closely related to the bushman/san) who lived/live on the southern and western tip of South Africa. ‘San’ is a word which is also Khoi but it is a derogatory word Khoisan used for the san people because unlike the Khoi they did not have cattle or do subsistence farming. They are two distinct people but are related in the same way all Bantu are related. They come together as Khoisan because it gives them more political power as they are such a small minority as it is already and because of their closeness with each other like brothers this gives them more strength. I am a coloured descendant of these people Nama on my fathers side and Khoikhoi on my mothers side. Being a coloured however I am obviously also mixed with other people groups.
@etherealsentients
@etherealsentients 5 жыл бұрын
Lukhanyo Ngqendeshe damn🤔🙆🏾‍♂️
@AizenIPlannedIt
@AizenIPlannedIt 5 жыл бұрын
@@LB_die_Kaapie as you mentioned yourself, they are two distinct people but are related in the same way all Bantu are related. But they would never come to together under the false term called "khoisan", there is no such thing, the term "khoisan" was coined in 1928 by zoologist Leonhard Schultze and has had a detrimental effect on San(whom are the first people) because opportunists are now claiming to be khoisan kings which is a bold face lie. The San delegates themselves have stated that Khoe don't share the same culture. mg.co.za/article/2001-04-26-the-khoi-dont-share-our-culture-say-san Also some of the so called bantu tribes in southern africa, are more proto-bantu due the their admixture of San or Khoi ancestry especially the populations found in the Herero or Nguni tribes like amaXhosa,amaZulu, amaSwati or the Sotho tribes such as baSotho & baTswana(who literally have an identical culture as the Basarwa "San" of Botswana).
@LB_die_Kaapie
@LB_die_Kaapie 5 жыл бұрын
Flakka Goat yes they are distinct I never said they weren’t. I’ve already explained why they came together so no need to do it again. And no, only 8% of all Bantu in SA have any san blood. So only certain clans in those communities you mentioned have indigenous blood. Whereas in contrast 80% of coloureds have Khoi or san blood. You can’t seperate us. We are the descendants of the Khoi and san. We are united as one people now. At least politically under the banner of COLOURED.
@LB_die_Kaapie
@LB_die_Kaapie 5 жыл бұрын
Flakka Goat and about those so called kings. They are making stuff up. No one recognised them. We left ‘kings’ behind when the white man took away our history and cultures. So we made our own whatever cultures we are made up from.
@Cars_and_Other_Wheels
@Cars_and_Other_Wheels 5 жыл бұрын
Bushmen are black people, we have a San community near kimberley, in platfontein (google it) . come see them, and tell me they coloured. they still speak they mother tongue Khwe. So "Coloured" people must stop believing the lies, your history is one drive away, stop making excuses.
@trevarrirademeyer5591
@trevarrirademeyer5591 3 жыл бұрын
Khoisan, Nama and Griekwa ect were "Brown" tribes. And the South African Coloured are 80% Khoisan. Our race also depends on the law of South Africa ,wich does not consider us to be "Black"..
@bryansafie6708
@bryansafie6708 5 жыл бұрын
I'm coloured but no black in my blood ,I wish I was Zulu lol i got Indian ,white German & San ,so youngstacpt ain't taking sht
@nomandla6501
@nomandla6501 4 жыл бұрын
San is black.... and African...
@tigerzulu759
@tigerzulu759 Жыл бұрын
Apartheid or white people did a number on South Africans.. If people are still confused, go to Namibia... Khoisans are black people
@fay-yaadhahmoodley3087
@fay-yaadhahmoodley3087 8 ай бұрын
Disgusting.. do people not even know that gangsters isn't a coloured only concept.. the slang that gangsters speak is made up of Zulu etc.. it was literally started by black people in prisons.. people must educate themselves..
@skgsinc1833
@skgsinc1833 5 жыл бұрын
Nah bro I respect youngsta but colourds are black whether he wants to admit it or not blacks were the first humans bro
@courtney9865
@courtney9865 5 жыл бұрын
So that means whites are also technically black? Coloured have European and Asian blood too, the genetic admixture is not exclusively black-white, in fact they are recognised as being The most mixed people group in the world. So why should they throw all of the other ancestry out and just be called black?
@isaacmofokeng3310
@isaacmofokeng3310 5 жыл бұрын
Africa belonged to blacks back in the days, meaning that even the egypcians are also refeered as blacks even today.
@sootho8898
@sootho8898 5 жыл бұрын
wtf is youngsta saying?
@cidic9517
@cidic9517 5 жыл бұрын
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@senzodunywa4611
@senzodunywa4611 5 жыл бұрын
so caloured don't want to be identified as black people or Africans eish
@infamouseyez-one7122
@infamouseyez-one7122 5 жыл бұрын
Because we not black...we don't want to be associated with black..u black people need to understand that fact we not black and we don't want to be black !
@adrevanderwesthuizen7262
@adrevanderwesthuizen7262 5 жыл бұрын
Senzo Dunywa not all coloured people think that way. I identify as African because I wasn't born in America or Europe, I was born on the African continent.
@petertarentaal734
@petertarentaal734 2 жыл бұрын
So me as n Coloured ou,if i have a white wife she somma a Coloured woman now in my house🤭 aw j Slikour Auj.
@skgsinc1833
@skgsinc1833 5 жыл бұрын
Does youngsta know that the Arabs started slavery
@thelyt3339
@thelyt3339 5 жыл бұрын
Coloureds are not africans
@gcinikayatelekiso4078
@gcinikayatelekiso4078 5 жыл бұрын
Bantu and sotho people are the first people in South Africa
@siphomthembu4582
@siphomthembu4582 5 жыл бұрын
youngsta is lost... man you black.
@erinjacobs9778
@erinjacobs9778 5 жыл бұрын
He is not black. Coloureds are not black. We are mixed race black + white. Understand that
@courtney9865
@courtney9865 5 жыл бұрын
He doesnt evwn look black dumbass. He looks more Atabic than black.
@liampetersen7548
@liampetersen7548 4 жыл бұрын
Sipho Dom poes
@siphomthembu4582
@siphomthembu4582 4 жыл бұрын
He's only coloured here in SA. Any other place, he's BLACK. Go argue with your uncle without front teeth. 🤧😂😂😂
@liampetersen7548
@liampetersen7548 4 жыл бұрын
@@siphomthembu4582 oh shut up you poes
@abongilengcwangu8167
@abongilengcwangu8167 5 жыл бұрын
Youngsta I really respect your music and love it but I don't agree with what you're saying that the Khoisan are not Black I myself the descendants of them Khoisan and Bushmen. You guys are Black straight up
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