Your Bike WILL Get Stolen, Unless You Do This! | GCN Tech Show 332

Ollie and Alex are back with loads of hot new bike tech this week, including a new time trial helmet, a new gravel bike AND a new time trial bike which means the death of rim brakes is looming larger than ever before… plus they discuss how to protect your bike from thieves and hopefully prevent your bike from being stolen.
There’s the usual round up of hot bike tech, a look at our favourite comments this week, and of course, will YOUR bike make the bike vault? Watch the show and find out!
00:00 Welcome to the GCN Tech Show
00:30 How To Prevent Your Bike From Being Stolen
01:57 What Tech Can Help You?
02:10 Bike Trackers: Air Tags, 4iii Cranks, Tile trackers
11:10 Privacy Zones On Strava Etc
11:26 Hot And Spicy Tech
11:53 NEW Giant Trinity TT Bike
13:40 NEW Giant TT Helmet
16:04 NEW Colnago G4X Gravel Bike
17:00 Bike Industry Woes Continue
17:27 Comment Of The Week
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[@gcntech]

Share your bike security tips here 💬

[@Tubezilla]

I find that putting mustard on the seat post helps stop dogs from stealing my underwear.

[@davidburgess741]

Own an extremely ugly bike and use the brake adjustment to lock the wheels.

[@cruachan1191]

I'm just glad that bike shops don't do what they did when I was a kid, which was stamp your postcode in to the bottom of the bottom bracket. Didn't help when someone stole my Raleigh Burner BMX either, so I like to imagine the thief fell off it due to the rust caused by the "security feature"

[@bicikircho]

locked at home, never alone when outside, not a second out of sight.

[@bleckb]

Keep your insurance up to date. The money you save on apps, etc can help used to cover out-of-pocket deductibles.

[@williamknose]

My dad's 1981 Shogun MTB was stolen twice in the late 80s, both times from our garage at night. Both times, we found someone riding it about 2 miles away when we were just driving. Verified the serial number with the rider and got the bike back. The second time the person riding told us who he bought it from, that individual was a known thief. So we reported this to the police, and no more bike thefts since. We still have the bike to this day.

[@HowP88]

I have an Airtag hidden on my bike with a fake Airtag nearby in a more obvious location. Theory is if a theif realises there is an Airtag on the bike they would find the fake one first. Not a watertight solution but for $5 extra it could keep the real one on the bike for a bit longer.

[@theveganinspired9356]

My racebike got stolen last Saturday in Baden, Switzerland when being parked at the pub. I looked on the phone and saw its location. Went there and found it parked behind a bus stop somewhere about 15km away from the pub. It was locked with two fresh locks. I called the police and after having proven that it is indeed my bike they opened the lock and helped bringing the bike back to the city. Without the airtag no chance of finding it. I hide the AirTag in a little plastic box that I can put underneath the bottle holder.

[@seahorserider33]

Thx for letting us know. I live near Baden and will defo take precautions.

[@dretubecreek]

Seems that we could open a GCN Baden team as I am also from here 💪🏼

[@woolychewbakker5277]

Excellent info. I am sure they will know where to find your AirTag next time now 😂

[@christianwirth6965]

"If your bike is worth 500 Pounds or more it is very stealable" - GCN Solution: Fit a Power Meter Crank worth 1600 Pounds :D

[@robm509]

Security tags are pointless when the Police are not interested in investigating bike thefts. I had three high-value bikes pinched from my garage last year - the crooks drilled out the door locks and hinges, then prized the garage door open just wide enough to be able to get the bikes out. The Police turned up to investigate five days later, by which time my bikes were long gone. And you never ever want to try tracking down the bike yourself, because you could find yourself on the wrong side of the law, and you could potentially get hurt if there's an altercation. It's just not worth it.

[@brokenrecord3523]

There are very few situation that the police can't make worse.

[@oov55]

there's simply too much crime and too few cops, and no budget , to give hours chasing down bikes. That's the reality. And it has little to do with value - as a $100 bike that gets someone to work or college, is as important as a $2000 ego ride. Deport crims, if they are deportable. Pay more Tax for more cops ...or just treat your ride like a very expensive fone - and never park it up unsafely. For now, there's just no answer. (ask a Motorbike owner how things are on the robbery front....)

[@brokenrecord3523]

​@@oov55 Deport crims? Gotcha. Isn't there a 4Chan forum missing you?

[@JackFou]

@@oov55 “deport the crims” Lmao you clearly thought long and hard about that one bozo 😂

[@muttfreeworld]

Yes police r useless I had my 📱 stolen years ago I was able to track it & told the cops the location they said we have more important things too do I says lik Eating donuts 🍩 @ tims

[@kriscythe]

our local police station has an e-commerce section in the parking lot for safe meetups and exchange of online sold items

[@MrLuigi-oi7gm]

Yes, police stations are used quite often for this purpose where I live (USA). It sounds like the idea is not as common in Great Britain based on the reaction from Shlomo and Ollie. 🤷‍♂️

[@raybarber9837]

@@MrLuigi-oi7gm UK police stations are like Fort Knox. Nobody gets in.

[@jojojo8835]

@@raybarber9837true, but here their car park isn’t- reckon if I arranged to trade in the car park it’ll put off most of the sh+theads😂

[@leighdickinson8299]

What about doing a full review of Apple Air Tag, Samsung Smart Tag & Tile tags in a separate video, on actually how good they're, how well they work, easy to hide & other general features

[@markianross]

These devices are only as good as the availability of the network they connect to and this is governed by how many devices they can connect to. Apple currently wins simply because there are so many Apple devices around. Google's will be similar to Apple when it launches, possibly better because there are a lot of Android devices around. Tile is practically useless because it needs to connect to a phone with the Tile app installed in order for tracking to work - and practically no one has the Tile app on their phone. Samsung I would imagine is somewhere in the middle because whilst there are a lot of Samsung devices out there, there's still a lot less than the total number of Android / Apple devices.

[@bastogne315]

When battery dies so does hope of recovering ur goods.

[@markianross]

@@bastogne315 the batteries last months

[@flagmichael]

@@bastogne315 Dunno about Airtags, but the Tiles we used six months ago are still operating. The battery is expected to last a year.

[@SusanHamann]

It’s an American thing…I sold one of the Hubby’s bikes and I met them at a local courthouse that I knew had video cameras…our local police department advertises their parking lot has videos just for safe buying/selling…

[@Robutube1]

Great idea. Unfortunately, it helps the public so we won't be seeing it here in the broken UK any time soon...

[@dorothyb.]

That’s a fab idea

[@wspmjw]

When I ride solo, as I frequently do, I bring my bike inside and lean against an interior wall. When riding with partners, one of us stays with the bikes while the others take care of their water bottle fills and bio needs. Then the watcher goes inside while the others are outside. Cafe stops are typically after the ride

[@MarkThomas-hm3ju]

A problem here in that States is confronting the person who stole your bike. You might be on the wrong end of a gun in some areas. Also, depending on where you live the local police may not be interested in helping you retrieve your bike, especially if it is in someone's home. Ebikes will be a big target and many are over 1000.00 in costs making it a felony to steal. It is going to be a while for this to sink in culturally for local areas that these are felonious crimes and need to be pursued as if a car has been stolen. Also, bike jacking can be very confrontational in some cities and dangerous.

[@geraldmaybebaby1585]

I had a two hundred metre steel cable attached to my bike to prevent theft. But people in the street complained about the cable tripping people up and daffodils having their tops taken off with lashing cable as I rode to work. Quite frankly. I was a little disappointed with their response to my ingenuity.

[@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene]

Thank you for not including locks, the only difference is how long it takes to cut through. Trackers, are you going to find it yourself and confront them? Police don't care about stolen bikes. Better let the thieves have them than lose your life or be physically injured for the rest of your life. All my bikes are insured, but the good ones don't get locked up, they are for riding from home and coming home, ONLY. I have a really nice strong bike I paid $180 US for, I use this for in town errands, it does get locked up. The loss is reduced by price of the bike. I use three locks a U-lock bar, a large diameter cable lock and a chain lock; this simply adds to the time to cut and steal. I am a full time cyclist, no car, 100% bicycle transportation. Commuting, work trips with load, touring, training, cargo hauler.

[@skipwalker1954]

In California many local police stations have safe meeting areas. Specifically for selling online. The one near me is outside but has a video camera monitoring 24/7. It’s a great service

[@tomr9661]

Make sure you have the serial number regardless of if your Bilke is chipped/Air tagged or not. A coworker had his bike stolen from outside a market, a heavy U lock was cut. The following week it was posted for sale on Craigslist with a picture. The victim called to buy it and went over to the thief's house with the police. The police asked the victim if he had the serial number and he said no, the police said they couldn't do anything about it and left. This was in the U.S.

[@ElidioMarquina]

Two facts happening in Mexico. 1. Doesn't matter if you have a cool or ugly used bike, the thefts take it to resell it in paw shop. Is easy money for this people. 2. There are thefts who search components in Google and check the prices, then dismantled and sell to any unscrupulous store.

[@raceace]

A huge issue is the police reticence to assist owners take back their property during the tracking process before owners take things into their own hands and confront the thieves at their residence or stash. It can get pretty heated.

[@badabing8884]

Don’t rely on the police. Get it insured. Even then you have to follow their conditions or they won’t pay out in the event it does get nicked.

[@davemellor6760]

I had my bike stolen but managed to get a few of the parts back off various sellers on eBay. I got the forks, wheels, brakes and rear mech back. When I asked each seller where they got them from they all said car boot sales around the Heathrow area. I visited a few of these sale in the hope that I might spot more parts off my bike, but didn’t. What did surprise me was the fact that we live nearly 100miles from these car boot sales so the low life criminals were prepared to travel a long way to steal and sell the bits and also how many people are clearly selling stolen stuff (mainly power tools and bikes) at these car boot sales. When I spoke to them they didn’t care, they would say things like “it’s not mine, I’m just selling it” or “I’ve never seen this stuff before”. One of them was happy to sing the Oliver Twist song got to pick a pocket or two at full volume. Interesting most of them had a certain accent….

[@richjlaw]

Had a friend have their expensive tri bike stolen in Oxford, UK. They tracked to the thief's house but the police refused to help him get it back.

[@badabing8884]

Have different layers of security when locking up your bike/e-bike. I have 2 D locks, cable lock, chain locks, defender lock, have an e-alarm/GPS, registered it on bike register and also insured it and I am still wary of it getting nicked.

[@ZOB4]

Enough people around where I live do online deals at the police station that there is a space in the parking lot specifically marked for this purpose. Easily the safest place to do it, and makes everyone (buyers and sellers) more comfortable

[@nalissa77]

Olli's inserts of him in various different "disguises" is hilarious. He looks like he stepped out of a Bugs Bunny cartoon.

[@gcntech]

What's your favourite Ollie disguise? 🤣

[@cubatea]

His standard Captain Kirk shirt!

[@andrewl.3460]

@@gcntechthe burglar

[@reoencarcelado5904]

@@andrewl.3460 he needs to wear another-one: the Hamburglar from McDonalds.

[@domekcco6985]

The dura ace crank is definitely on Alex's next budget build 😂

[@JonCannings]

😂

[@a1white]

The digs at Alex never get old 😅

[@wotexpat9367]

@@JonCannings He has them just 'lying around'.... don't we all?

[@BigBailBikesandBeer]

I found some apple air pods AND work next door to the local police station. When I posted them on social media I had literally tons of chancers trying to say they were theirs, Wanting me to drop them through the door of random addresses. As where they were found was near my work I offered to meet them at the police station. Amazing how many did not turn up or come back to me saying "sorry I have found mine" . Ironicly I have found a couple of pairs since and the abuse I got when I said I would drop them off at the police station with the Facebook ID of the guy who was going to pick them up as I was working away. Good end to the story I have managed to get all three pairs back to the proper owners

[@matthewbaynham6286]

I saw a video a youtube made with a bait bike. They put an airtag on a bike and left it without locking it up. Someone stoll their bait bike, and they followed the signal from the airtag which took them to a large block of appartments with over a hundred storage unuts in the basement. They had no idea where there bike was except it was, except in this massive block of apartments. So their plan failed.

[@simondavis697]

I use Knog Scouts on all my bikes and even have them hidden in my cars. Rechargeable, has a built in alarm system which can be disabled and doesn’t notify potential thieves of its presence. 👍

[@JonCannings]

Sounds good!

[@paulgrimshaw8334]

How about a segment on the % of bikes recovered by the police? Or the actual penalties meted out for bike theft? Revealing those stats might add some context to the recommendation not to park/lock a bike worth more than £500 out of owner view.

[@gourami7]

Why talk about something that rarely happens ? Who actually expects the police to recover anything stolen ? Stolen bikes are barely something they worry about

[@ghjgjihjgjyrdrgydsgr137]

@@gourami7 I don't normally like negative comments, but you are 100% right about this. The whole conversation about tracking in case of theft is a complete waste of breath. Only a small percentage of people will get their bikes back, and the police are not worried about it. I know a person who tracked their stolen laptop to an address, reported it to police (the Met), and the police said they wouldn't go over there, and also forbade them from going over there to try and get it back. And that was it.

[@CyclingGeo]

I never bothered with GPS tags. Bike theft is so common that the police rarely put the effort into them, unless they’re going after a group who has stolen multiple (20+). I just file a police report and inform my home insurance. I’ve had 2.5 bikes stolen and my insurance gets a new one within a week or two. The third one was just stripped of most of its parts so that was technically vandalism, not theft. All parts and upgrades were under insurance as well.

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

I wouldn't even consider filing a report since we have an ancestral home we have a deductible of 2500$ 😂 damn

[@CyclingGeo]

@@LaurentiusTriarius Yeah my deductible is only 200-300€ or something.

[@George_Taylor_]

If you need to walk away from your bike in any public place, you need a cheap second bike for commuting that no one will want to steal. It's that simple.

[@ElleEast-wf9wk]

The Vancouver Police Department, in British Columbia, Canada, has a safe exchange / buy and sell area outside their Cambie Street Headquarters building. It is a dedicated space by the main doors, with security cameras, solely intended for people to meet up to complete on line marketplace type sales/exchanges. So, not a joke - I'm sure there'll be others elsewhere. Cheers.

[@davidroberts6766]

I live in 🇨🇦….police here have established safe marketplace meetups locations, at police stations….two advantages, feel safer making the meet, and less likely to meet folks pawning off stolen goods.

[@LettersToEsme]

i’m long distance cyclist, a cycle for charity for missing children. I’m working on one now on long rides. I’ve had my bicycle stolen three times. Be careful out there.

[@workshopninjathe1st]

My buddy had his bike completely stripped while it was locked up outside a pub - we were in the pubs garden and the bike was in full view. All you need is a pair of cable cutters and a multi tool. He lost all of a record groupset minus the cranks, plus a carbon handlebar and stem, all in less than 5 mins.

[@emfi8744]

Living in Switzerland, I apply the Swiss solution to everything: insurance! I have my Aeroad insured for kasko and theft. Whatever it happens, I get it back to new

[@garthreid7114]

Ive booby trapped mine with a hand grenade, attached to an Air Tag, so the thief will think, ' what's this ', and rip the air tag off, thereby activating the 2 second timer.🤗

[@borisgurevich5504]

Common sense thoughts: if you do need to leave a bike outside, 1. For cheap bikes: lock it with a bolt-cutter-resistant lock. 2. For mid range bike: a)register with local bike registry; b) lock it with an angle-grinder-resistant lock; 3) for an expensive bike: a) register the local bike registry; b) buy bike insurance c) lock with a lock required by the insurer. I don’t like the idea of air tags because police would take no action and I don’t want to confront thieves either. My life and health is worth more than my bike. In comments section there are examples where air tags helped because the bike was found locked elsewhere but unattended. But it is a matter of luck. Btw what constitutes the above price ranges is subjective. As a general rule, you should,only insure things whose loss would have a serious effect on your well being. For me, it is only my health, house and car.

[@ChristopherHague]

I have no issue with disc brakes taking over. For me, it means people are selling off their perfectly good rim wheels and rim brake bikes at a fraction of the price. It’s a buyers market out there

[@samus4799]

Put two AirTags on the bike. Chances are they won’t bother searching for it, they’ll just ditch the bike.

[@richardlocke7264]

I did a bike tour across NY State on the Erie Canal last summer, I had an air tag on my bike. (big ride 400 miles, over 600 cyclists ) I got a notification that someone else's AirTag was following me (about 3 or 4 days into the ride). I turned on the search for the AirTag on my phone, and found hundreds of AirTags! At least 125 bicyclist had AirTags on their bikes, and all of them had been following me for days. LOL

[@andreemurray7039]

The manufacturer, s need to still make rim brakes as many of us have rim brakes but feel foured disc is the only option nothing against disc just happy with rim brakes

[@Stigsens1]

Put two airtags on the bike…..thief find one, but not second.

[@SmartLittleFishy]

I'd like to tell the Tech team about the Knogg Scout. A "FindMy" compatible bike tracker and alarm. It hides on bottle mounts, is recordable and using the app, you can set an audible alarm on the Scout. The alarm is loud enough to be noticed but I don't see it will have thieves running from your bike. The tracking is as good or better than an AirTag, and it's not hidden within the bike. I combine the Kong Scout with two different locks, hoping that two different types of lock will need two different tools to break into lock, and maybe the thief won't have both tools with them ...

[@jack002tuber]

Any solution to bike theft that starts out with "once your bike is stolen, this is what happens next" is not for me, thanks.

[@benjaminplant3734]

Fairly low effort show. I expected more from an organisation of this size

[@boballard6040]

I’m in that club too. Who wants to track down thieves..? Weak video.

[@flagmichael]

Sadly, it is sometimes the only solution. Mine was stolen when burglars broke down the door of my apartment. That Tour de France cost me the equivalent of three months rent of the apartment.

[@better.better]

they've already made those videos. the point they make at the start is true though you can lock it up as much as you want if somebody really wants it they can get it regardless. Lock Picking Lawyer can get into the best locks in less than 5 minutes. I don't think he has a single video that's longer than 12 minutes and most of that time is spent discussing why the lock sucks, or what was good about it. most locks he doesn't even have to pick. somebody less skilled will take much longer, but picking isn't even the biggest issue, bike thieves don't care about the lock, and it's faster to just wear something that looks official and grind it off. besides I've seen other videos where the person wasn't even wearing anything that looked official, they were right out in the open, and nobody even hesitated to see what was going on. now I don't know conspicuous the cameras filming the incident were, but the fact that very few people even looked while somebody was grinding off a lock should tell you all you need to know about a bike without a camera on a tripod nearby.

[@yamyam60]

Back in the old West, horse thieves were hung. I consider my bikes are my horses and would totally agree with the old ways, maybe it would deter some thieves.

[@georidio]

travelling with an airtag on my bike/luggage is an absolute must in my book now. I went to Canada in 2022 and my bike didn't follow me through Paris to Vancouver but the tag meant I was able to tell the airline where it was and after the conversation with the helpful person on the phone it was only this data that meant it got to me in time for my event. the airport/airline and receiving airport were all waiting on location information from each other and not actually doing anything with it. the airtag meant I could tell them where it was and get the reshipping moving.

[@JonCannings]

It certainly puts aside any doubts of where your bike is!

[@driv3rde883]

Best and final solution for stopping bike theft: standardise serial numbers on bike frames and create a system where you can track the buying and selling of bikes. Just like the way we do with cars. So when you buy a used bike just search in the database to see who is the owner. The police should also have access or create the system. And it should be worldwide or at least region wide.

[@brianmontello9074]

Here in America, it is common to do market place meet ups at the local police department. So much so that many departments installed cameras in a certain area of the parking lot, solely for that purpose.

[@ComandanteNissaro]

I got my bike stolen last month. I feel hollow. I just want my bike back.

[@adamweb]

I know a lot of people stop at cafes, etc. but I simply never let my bike out of sight. If I absolutely have to stop somewhere I'm taking my bike in with me!

[@paulgrimshaw8334]

When it has come to this (like it has) we must question whether laws, law enforcement, and the judicial system are doing anything but going through the motions.

[@adamweb]

@@paulgrimshaw8334 True, I'm probably jaded because I had my bike stolen about 9 years ago and the police basically said "sorry we don't handle that"

[@ericcoxtcu8037]

I appreciate how careful Ollie was not to comment directly on the accuracy of certain powermeters built onto Shimano cranks by some very large company that makes both bicycle components and fishing gear.

[@GeorgeD1]

I usually never park my bicycle unattended/out of sight, and even so, before temporarily parking it I always put it in the hardest possible gear to initially slow down a potential daring thief who tries to just grab the bike behind my back and ride away. It's not easy to accelerate from standstill in biggie-smalls, even more so if the Di2 has gone to sleep after a while and takes an extra click to wake up.

[@tquindt1]

My 2018 Norco Search XR AXS was nicked off of my car rack while I ran into the supermarket to grab dinner. Fortunately, my homeowners insurance had full replacement coverage. The replacement cost was just over 8k. State Farm and my lbs really came through to get me a replacement bike in time for my local gravel race. If my bike were to be recovered, I would need to repay the insurance company. Only 5% of stolen bikes in the USA are recovered and returned to their owners. Make sure you have a locking car rack, know your serial number, and have recent photos of you and your bike. Also, keep your receipts. A check with your insurance agent is also worthwhile.

[@MrGarycoww]

Nice to see the Dura Ace crankset saga still going strong!😁

[@JonCannings]

He's never going to live it down!

[@korsveien]

Just buy a small sticker that says:” Property of Hells Angels.” Stick it on your bike.

[@JonCannings]

😂😂

[@SaHaRaSquad]

Plot Twist: it gets stolen by hells angels

[@dakalla]

@@SaHaRaSquad good luck getting it back with your airtag haha

[@SIGNALacquired]

does not work with a thief from the Hells Angels. HA thief looks at the sticker and says "yep that one belongs to ME".

[@nerigarcia7116]

Our local police station has designated parking spots for sale transactions called the Exchange Zone.

[@JonCannings]

Crikey! In the UK you are lucky to even find a police station these days

[@tertiaryeel2066]

Week 60 of asking for a “the UCI has no jurisdiction here” T-shirt

[@reoencarcelado5904]

@tertiaryeel2066: I’d buy that-one and a t-shirt that says “F*ck the UCI!”.

[@zodgzod]

I found that most places inside my carbon frame severely affected the signal from the AirTag. I therefore found an enclosure that fits under a bottle cage. Now though, for my main bike I have a Knog Scout.

[@Cycle.every.day.]

I'm all for disc brakes on road and tt bikes, but only when a pad compound comes out that never (or rarely) sqeals,even when wet,apart from only for a second to clear water.

[@wspmjw]

Flaws with the Schimano built-in tracker. 1. you have to purchase a Durace crank set. 2. you must use an Apple device.

[@jonathanzappala]

It’s a 4iiii power meter, you buy any 4iiii precision 3+ power meter, not just dura ace.

[@Stevenafoe]

Schimano is the chinese shimano knock-off ?

[@Team5TL]

I assume someone else has mentioned it but the Knog Scout is another device. The nice thing about it is the chirp if someone “bumps” your bike and the alarm if it moved. That way a thief knows they’re being tracked and someone has been immediately notified.

[@andyglawe7804]

Suprised you didn't mention bikefinder. Handlebar hidden gps tracker and none of the issues of apple air tag. Also Android have paired with Chipolo which is similar to Apple Air tag

[@flagmichael]

It looks pretty slick.

[@kuri8015]

Keeping your bike safe away from home... You could have also talked about bike alarms, for example the Knog Bicycle Scout, which is an air tag tracker and alarm. The reviews are pretty good.

[@julianhall2008]

I won't leave my bike anywhere, locks aren't worth a spit , thieves carry battery powered tools / hacksaw , if they cannot get the lock off they will just trash the frame to steal the parts. Spending 10000 euro on a road bike is great if you have deep pockets however cycles of that price just invite thieves , also consider bike jacking it does happen,so be consider where you ride too. Had the same problem with expensive motorcycles the thieves would clock a bike they want to steel follow it maybe to the persons home and steal it. Had a ride on a test bike at the dealers and was warned not to leave it anywhere as a few weeks before a chap had taken one out for a test ride,popped home and it was stolen from his drive, (BMW HP 8 £ 25000 at the time ) sad state 😢

[@MichaelSmith-fn1ci]

There are 3rd party vendors who provide AirTag holders for bike frames, placing an Apple AirTag within the frame would reduce the tags trackable signal strength.

[@paulschmidt7473]

The idea of tags would be to track your location without storing more then immediate data, unless you enact the locator function. So if your bike was nicked, you go to the local constabulary, provide the locator id, and let the local constable deal with doing the actual recovery.

[@masterwu22]

How would you guys feel if I told you that this weekend, a nice man in my group ride had a bike lock attached to his Trek Madone through the “aero” cutout in the seat tube 😂. Kinda defeats the purpose of such an extreme aero bike;)

[@robbchastain3036]

And no joke here, but leaving a bike locked in public, either all day or for errands, does necessitate a specific bike for that, the klunker-looking tho' smooth-running cheap or used bike. And bonus is that it is another N+1 or 2 or 3. 😀

[@KarlosEPM]

Indeed. Some variation of a pub-bike.

[@davethedogdude]

I didn't see you mention this, but Knog makes a device that bolts onto a bottle cage (you can bolt the cage over it), it comes with mounting screws that require a special tool to easily remove. It acts as an alarm if someone moves your bike and an air tag. You can arm and/or disarm the alarm from your phone when near the bike. It works well, but you can't really use it with a shared bike rack as someone putting their bike on the rack may set it off. (the air tag tracking still works of course). It is IOS specific though like others you mentioned. It is rechargeable and the charge lasts a good while depending on how often you leave it armed.

[@thenexthobby]

You can avoid being a vigilante by first registering your bike with a database. Police can use that, any proof of purchase info if new, and knock on the perp's door for you. Not leaving it in an unseen place helps too. Or maybe under a cover. Anything that annoys or slows down the thief.

[@Shellewell]

As much as I agree that locks aren't perfect, a few years ago my commuter bike was kept in a shared bike store in the block of flats I lived in (my aero road bike stayed in the flat). The store was broken into in the night twice in my time there. Every bike with a wire lock was stolen, some visibly less valuable than mine, and every bike with a D lock was left including mine. It shouldn't be seen as foolproof, but a D lock does provide a meaningful extra touch of protection.

[@algizmo7079]

Sadly, only time I had a bike stolen was when some &*%$£ used a cordless mini angle grinder on the D-lock that I had specially bought for my ebike.

[@jesusgallardo762]

You didn’t talk about a device i think it’s somewhat better than an AirTag. The scout by knog. I have installed them on my bikes and like you say there is no infalible solution but i like this one because it has its own app and you can “arm” the device from your phone when you leave your bike somewhere. Then when armed and the bike is moved it sounds avery loud noticeable alarm, on your phone and from the bike itself. At least the thief will be drawing attention as he is taking the bike: it can be installed underneath a bottle cage and it requires a special screw driver to be removed. At least it will make noise as they steal your bike 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@adehany]

NB you can't keep a tag in the frame because it acts as a Faraday Cage and blocks all signals completely. So it makes it harder to hide one, but there are plenty of ideas. I use a Eufy tracker that's a bit cheaper than AirTag, can be secured with a cable tie and has access to the FindMy network. It makes me feel a whole lot better, and when my bike was left behind at Berlin airport I immediately reported it in London and I honestly believe that the fact it was tagged and I could be certain about its location helped facilitate a speedy return, which was within a few days remarkably. I'm probably insane enough to follow the blue dot if it suddenly started moving without me but I'm grateful for the heads up that this might not be the best thing to do.

[@kaltonian]

I had my bike stolen a couple of months ago from inside my house whilst out at the hospital, & yes before you ask yes i do or rather i did lock my bike up in the house, which my missis thought was a bit ott, thing is they left no evidence of the broken lock they dug up the concrete floor, so they must of had a van or car or maybe they did just walk down the road with it locked, front locked with krypton wire & back wheel to frame with krypton d lock, still gutted as skint due to cost of living & having to leave work due to having suspected lung cancer at the time, unfortunately you can scan for trackers now which is a bummer,

[@mommamooney]

My parents always put Tile tiles in their luggage when they travel. It’s helped them out more than once

[@peterago1082]

boy Alfred you got some exceptional laugh, you should patent that baby

[@teardowndan5364]

I'm not too worried about my bicycle getting stolen. It is quite scratched up from 20 years of wear, slightly torn seat, chewed up luggage rail and mismatched replacement parts. If my bicycle is among the most beat-up-looking ones in the area, thieves will hopefully not bother with it.

[@rokpantner3049]

1.Park it under a camera 2.At home/work instal a fake security cam(you can get a fake/not working cam cheap and usually you cant install real cameras)

[@tomr9661]

Finding your bike and getting it back are two different stories. I had a mountain bike stolen off my front porch and two months later I seen in a public park with four scummy looking guys standing around it. I didn't have the serial number, so I let it go. It was an old bike and not worth getting stabbed over. This was in the U.S.

[@LoreSquidd]

HipLock dx1000 + Knog Scout (or even just ordinary HipLock Dx) and that's it. You can leave bike if you want to go to store or drink coffee in caffe cuz you wont be far away from bike so Bluetooth connection will be established with your phone and no one will be able to get the bike "quickly" cuz of the lock, so the second someone tries to break the lock Knog scout will send the notification to your phone that someone is trying to touch your bike - easy

[@damianchristie288]

the best advice would be go to live in Singapore. or get removeable pedals now you can take the front wheel and pedals with you and lock you're bike .. but at the end of the day nothing works as well and gives as much satisfaction as the good old baseball bat.

[@charlesspringer4709]

Pro tip: Never use the word "what" unless you are asking a question. Easily convert "what that means is" ---> "that means". And all the related "what you wanna do now is you want to...", etc.

[@RamblingJosh]

7:52 I'm glad they brought this up, though I wish they discussed it a bit deeper. My immediate thought with trackers has always been like...So I know where my stolen bike is... Am I supposed to go steal it back? The police in my city 100% will not do anything, so what, I'm going to just walk into the chop shop, find my bike among all the others, and then walk out?

[@brokenrecord3523]

Rim brakes: That's how we used to stop the buckboard when goin ta town for supplies. 🤠 I'm sure someone missed these at some point too (back about 1890).

[@better.better]

just be aware that the endpoint masking used by Strava and Komoot is not unhackable, and it's been proven that the route data contains all the information needed to determine the actual location of your starting point. a person with ill intent who knows enough about coding could use your route data to make a good guess about your actual endpoint. a person with the data of three routes could determine the exact endpoint. I say this based on information from the way Strava did it last year, komoot uses a polygonal mask rather than a circular one, but I'm not sure that makes much difference to the process shown in the Black Hat conference

[@kamicokrolock]

Had a co worker who's bike was stollen and the thief left a "junker" in it's place. It wasn't;t a bad looking bike Just obviously old but it was a far better frame than what she had lost so the husband of another one of our co workers helped her restore the bike and put a better quality derailleur on it and she actually made off better in this situation. And because the bike looked dated she had no issues with theft again. It's part of the reason I wouldn't dream of replacing my 1997 era Trek bike. It doesn't look cool anymore but it is a solid machine and no one other than kids misbehaving would consider stealing a bike that probably has a value of $60 these days. Unless you are doing specialty riding an old dated frame is a good way to deter theft as that tech really hasn't changed much since the safety bicycle was invented.

[@mplsmark222]

The worst kind of thieves are the ones that steal tools. Taking away an honest, hard working persons ability to work is just so low. It’s sucks to lose anything to theft, but losing tools and equipment is especially bad.

[@chrisridesbicycles]

Too complicated solution. The primary goal should be that a bike does not get stolen in the first place. Why isn‘t there more public bike storage that includes a lock like the lockers for your luggage at train stations? Still can‘t get my head around the rim brake whining. When discs came into MTB, nobody moaned around that we should keep rim brakes.

[@AlanCallow]

Great video Dan. Love the honesty. Alcohol saving of 30 units per week is a lot . Thanks for sharing so openly

[@Customisbetter2]

I am getting the Giro helmet painted up like a snake head for my next triathlon. Lol

[@manoz6194]

Angle-grinder resistant lock is a good measure but they are heavy. Good for ebikes

[@keithmillard7883]

The colour matched valves front and back on the Giant win the day for me.

[@richjlaw]

Samsung Smartags do not suffer from the Airtag paranoia issue, afaik.

[@jamesdoolan8040]

Would recommend trying a Knog Scout. Has an alarm as well as the Find My technology. Gives me great piece of mind when bikepacking and I need to leave my bike outside a shop for 5 mins with a flimsy lightweight lock.

[@PaulSenter]

Good work lads ya videos are always rad! Tbh I just walk into shops with mine like im allowed. Only been asked to leave once. Its that old adage if you act like youre allowed head up and not afraid to engage in banter with staff people pay less or no attention to the bike. As a youngster i knew bike thieves so know a good one can crack anything. Somewhat harder if the owner has it in hand. Most bike thieves are opportunistic and not looking for a potential fight for a bike...at least in the city where I live. Its a sad one for road bikes as good ones go for very cheap money comparatively in the stolen market, as mountain bikes are vogue for the people who buy so they have an ideaq whats good spec etc but have no ideas about road bikes other than they are light. Question do many other riders here take their bikes into shops to avoid the need to leave it?

[@jeskli11]

5:14-5:21, those lines alone on a GCN video deserve a BIG LIKE!

[@oldscoolgaming.5040]

I had an old beat up Raleigh Arena racer,that I bought for 10 pounds in a charity shop.I loved that bike.My mistake was thinking that nobody would want to steal it, as it looked so ratty,I even had strips of inner tube as bar tape.I used a cheapy poundland lock.And some skank stoll it when I was in work.

[@geraintroberts7212]

Yeah. Even 'rat bikes' aren't completely safe but they are the best bet for bikes you have to leave out of sight for any time. Occasional replacement is cheaper than bike insurance and knowing where your stolen bike is, isn't a lot of use if the police won't help you recover it. Unless of course you yourself are a very large and scary person with equally scary friends.

[@oldscoolgaming.5040]

@@geraintroberts7212 I don’t see why bikes can’t be fitted with some sort of alarm,like cars are.Installed under the seat post or something.

[@Demy1970]

I never have my bike unattended, I only use it for training and no stops for anything. If you need to stop, place chain in most difficult gears, also you can take a small padlock and slip through the chain. Now the bike is useless. You can always take front wheel off and carry with you. Have a second bike for errands

[@davidhunternyc1]

If someone accidentally buys your stolen bike, you should pay them the same amount they paid to get your bike back. It's courteous. Also, watch Apple start charging "monthly" fees to use their tag. You can cover your bike for $29.99 a month.

[@feedbackzaloop]

I don't mind my bikes getting stolen: crime happens, always and anyways. Now what I would really wish for, getting better chances at recovering it. Ideally in one piece and not just stripped frame as it usually happens. Also, currently in my area the recovery statistics stand at all time high of......... 14%! To add insult to the injury, of those 14% half don't return to the owner but get sold at a police auction

[@user-dy3oc3vt8h]

Rim Brakes will never go away and are the best