Your coworkers want you to fail.

In the automotive industry your coworkers want you fail. they have everything to gain from it and nothing to lose. maybe everywhere is like that. but it's noticeably bad in this industry.

[@dadgarage7966]

I'm a millwright and I've asked myself on many occasions, "How can someone be a rat and a snake at the same time?"

[@rustedhorsepower5132]

Ha haaa ha, we used to always say, when a new guy comes in, NOBODY helps him unload his box, but when he leaves, EVERYBODY helps him load up his box. But honestly, there were groups here and there that would help each other oyt, not all of them were cut throats.

[@rock962000]

that's kinda sad lol

[@Lancemechanics]

@@rock962000 but extremely true every shop!

[@ibanez741852]

I'm an hourly tech, formerly worked at a flat rate shop. This is an issue everywhere. Techs want everyone to fail because they think it makes them look better.

[@Gixxerfool1]

I’m not proud of it, but there was a time when I was much more standoffish and unwilling to help in order to keep time. Eventually, when a single toxic tech left, a lot changed and I pulled a 180°. I figured if my work was good the money would follow. I started trying to help where I could and really support everyone making money. Found out, when you help others be better, they return that back to you and it made me a better tech and person.

[@Lancemechanics]

this is what everyone needs to do! i dont have proud moments either. its hard to be a standout in those situations. as long as we catch out selves doing it we can make more positive changes.

[@jackfox5738]

About the only help anybody ever need at the dealership I worked at a decade Plus ago, what's if we needed to borrow a tool. Everybody that worked at the Lexus dealership was a genius. But I do know the cut through ways because at Champion Chrysler Dodge Jeep

[@Eddy-wi3oh]

I’m still new to the automotive industry but I got lucky with the friends I made and the tech’s I work with. Every single one of them give me guidance and help me when I am struggling. Very grateful for the team I have.

[@ghostwrench2292]

Yeah, I don’t know where this guy works but in 16 years I’ve never been in a shop as bad as he describes. I’ve worked with some assholes but by and large my fellow techs have been very helpful.

[@DostiesGarage]

You couldn't of said it better, I need to get out of this trade asap...

[@hhjhj393]

This is every job ever. It's just human nature unfortunately. Every job I have ever had has always been COVER YOUR ASS. No one wants to take the blame for anything, so throwing you under the bus is only natural. I would imagine this is especially tough for mechanics because there is SO much outside of your control. You deal with hundreds of different cars, all with different parts, all of which are not in your control. You have to deal with tools that can break which isn't necessarily in your control. The car you are working on could have all sorts of weird problems depending on how the customer took care of it. You could have issues with the shop and they conduct business which isn't in your control. So all of these things can lead to situations not in your control and mistakes happen. I imagine being a mechanic is pretty stressful.

[@darkmachine165]

Truth! Mechanical knowledge is guarded like gold for some reason. And here I am doing shit for free like a idiot because I'm nice to a extent.

[@Lancemechanics]

Your human!

[@rzmod4766]

i fix almost as much shit for free on the side as i do at work lmao,but im old and these youngsters couldnt walk a day in my shoes...

[@alwaysgoodinthewoods]

I worked hourly heavy fleet and I still filmed and took pictures of absolutely everything. If its in the shop getting parts put on it it isn't out making money so calling parts early or chasing your tail on a diagnostic issues is seen as wasting everyone's space, time, and money. It was common for management to wonder if you changed something too early/making busy work, or you sent it because you are lazy or couldn't figure it out. Pics saved me so many times, I cant even imagine the shite talking that went on that I didn't hear about. They would always wait a bit and maybe a few days, a week, and then question the repair once the old parts and rig were long gone. If I didn't have the pics I would probably struggle to remember the details, being the one working through and solving these complex problems one after another, as opposed to delegating and critiquing. The other techs still hold back info, especially the older folks, mostly because they don't want you to get too quick and make them look bad or take credit for there info ...So they will mislead or underlead, as you mentioned to make themselves look better to management. On the flip side some young guys will take your advice but then get cocky and try and act like they had it figured out already/blame there tools/etc. My advice to apprentices is be humble and thankful to those who truly help you out, be weary of management and any techs that kiss management ass, always protect your health and work reasonably safe. Anyone who has the attitude of "well you shouldn't have become a mechanic if you didn't want to absolutely ruin your body" is an idiot. You get good before you get fast, take as long as necessary on any job the first time you do it. The second time is where you can try and be fast.

[@Lancemechanics]

i don't think i could handle a environment like that. I wouldn't go to work to be questioned on everything i did daily. thats incredible.

[@alwaysgoodinthewoods]

​@@Lancemechanics Don't get me wrong there are good guys on the floor, thankfully, that will tell it to you straight early on and management wouldn't call you on stuff daily.. but weekly for sure, best to just take the pics daily so you are covered...the repairs they did question you on you would laugh and scratch your head. Recent example: Brand new cube van customer cant fill fuel. I go and check it out. Have a look in the fuel filler and its completely blocked up with petroleum jelly looking stuff, I fish out what I can with a long screw driver and fill it up.... all fixed! (all that expensive tooling and schooling really shining here lol). My job is done right? nope. Now I have to put on my detective hat... My best guess is when they put the box on the truck body they have to put the extended fuel filler on and that was there choice of lube to fit the extension and they went a little heavy. That was the first time it had ever been filled with fuel since I suppose? I cant assume this though and can only state the facts, take my pics and head back to the shop, now management is quizzing me on the ole who's to blame and who's paying dance. Is it a customer bill back? (the favorite) Is it warranty at ford?(please no, and you better be right) Do they need to go after the van body company? (good luck) am I absolutely sure of what I saw? was it sabotage? driver just not wanting to drive that day and made it up for whatever reason? (strangely common), trying to explain this situation to someone who has 0 mechanical knowledge is tough. Not my problem though, I observed an obstruction, removed it, verified operation, here are the pictures of said obstruction, next job please! lol Its not always your work personally that is being questioned but the details that will drive you absolutely mad and taking pics and videos made it a lot easier to turn off at the end of the day and relax. Its never the actual work that is the pain, its the people and the politics.

[@marcocalderon-juarez4494]

I’ve experienced this myself throughout my career brother. This is why I work for myself and been a mobile mechanic for 15 years and counting. Now I hate working for someone else.

[@Lancemechanics]

congrats on getting away from it! :)

[@TheYouTubeMechanic]

This is the way. Independent solo guys are the future.

[@mech_degen9156]

I had already watched this video but for some reason I just noticed the cover art with the deer and the get well soon balloon. I laughed so hard 😂

[@Lancemechanics]

Yeah it makes me giggle alot :p

[@jamesbasye2362]

😊thankyou Lance, was flatrate at firestone and i have experienced exactly what you are saying first hand, i now work for Les scwab tires as a brake and alignment tech and i love it, everyone in our shop works as a team and it is a positive work enviroment big shops that pay you hourly and treat you with value restores my faith in the auto industry,

[@Lancemechanics]

that's great to hear man! its always great to read someone getting into a positive place!

[@Imnotyourdoormat]

*I used to have the SM tell me "Dont say anything but that dude right there is gone come Friday at lunchtime." Then the guy always comes in on Friday morning whistling having a good day saying things like Life Is Good. All while his so-called "Foxhole Buddies" are already arguing over who gets to move his toolbox into their spot.*

[@rustedhorsepower5132]

It is a very toxic environment, but what i experienced, differs from what you did. People that got done wrong by management tended to stick together. We defended each other, helped each other out, and were honest with one another. On the flip side, those guys who were in good with management stuck together too. I did have techs handing wrong info to send you on wild goose chases, techs and even advisors trying to throw me under the bus....well even foremans and managers for that matter. They didnt like me. Kind hard to like the guy "you cant touch", lol. They could never make anything stick on me no matter how much mud they flung at me. Anyways, i did develope friendships that went beyond the shop (and some of them were old timers, but not all), but that was just my experience.

[@joosier2385]

This is true when it comes to friends, family coworkers, neighbors, spouses etc-a tale as old as time-it's called schadenfreude. If someone has a hard time navigating this aspect of human nature maybe read "The 48 Laws of Power" before throwing in towel (or greasy red rag).

[@cupwalker24.7]

Wow I'm glad I Don't work in a Industry like that... No Loyalty !! And loyalty is Royalty or could be your life .. 💪 ...If you treat dudes like that in the industry I work in you could end up Severely Hurt or worse .....you have to Always Walk the fine line of Not Carrying the Next mans weight and his work But Always Remain Loyal to your guys and each other ... and Help Each other and have a Heart . A good strong heart for the next man . But still take of your self . Everything in moderation . Some Respect Helps a Ton...the Automotive Mechanic industry is severely damaged. Due to So Many Reasons I can think of . Stay strong out there dudes 😎

[@victoryfirst2878]

WHAT you say Lance is true to a great extent. The more others screw up the better the worthless techies look. Just on the surface only !!!!!!

[@johnversluis3084]

Yes 28 years of this old school bs and even when I lift the car biz I see it other bix heavy rental to but no gains . This is why the young people are not staying the industry to long when they can't stand it

[@PorkOrb2]

As an Apprentice I had a Journeyman who just wanted to see me fail. Had him watching over my shoulder 24/7 eventually got let go from that shop and now I’m at an independent shop and it’s a lot better. Be the change you want to see in the industry that’s what I think. These videos are great keep it up lance!

[@Lancemechanics]

glad your in a better place!

[@635suz7]

I’ve been a dealer tech since 96, definitely some truth you say but it’s not all bad . I live on good karma for co workers,customers and myself. Every job and trade has the same toxic people or what I would call dirtbags.

[@victorsandoval1060]

I help my co workers a lot and they help me and each other out too. I’m glad to some extent we have a great group of guys but no one is perfect. I have seen what you speak about in my time tho and have worked with a lot of guys.

[@dannytam9046]

That's life every where you go they want you to fail but you have to work for what you want it to be for you

[@michaelpeters5007]

This is human psychology it infects every industry…. But as an auto tech I’ve notice the auto industry is designed way worse to encourage this behavior and I think if the pay and benefits were better it would be more tolerable. We as mechanics put ourselves through such hardship to make a very basic living it’s a rough job.

[@Aaron-or6ov]

I worked my career in a dealership. You have advisors that will favor their friends over anyone. Everyone knows it is happening. Even a lot of times at dealerships when a manger leaves a new one will come and later hire his buddy as an advisor and that advisor will bring his own guys. There are now mostly electronic dispatching but that can easily be manipulated. You can go on the computer and see others times for the day and week. And you will learn fast and hard who the favorite ones are.

[@Lancemechanics]

yep! get this the last place I worked the son in law of a guy in dealership could assign him self jobs. i dont think he did anything but condenser on civics for 2years. management turned the eye. that right there caused lots of anxiety in the shop when times got slow and this guy was constantly working. its all a joke

[@TaylorZ2]

You are very interesting Mr. Lance, I hope your channel really takes off.

[@Lancemechanics]

Tyvm. Take my time and hopefully stay on track! Alot of these channels get out of hand and regular people can't do what they do :p

[@TaylorZ2]

@@Lancemechanics FWIW I think I mentioned in another of your videos that I was in sales and believe me, your coworkers want you to fail there too!! It really was an awful, cut throat environment where you really need a little bit of larceny in your blood to succeed. Sad.

[@Lancemechanics]

@@TaylorZ2 videos can probably relate to many industries. The entire dealership model is garbage:(

[@motokid1492]

Man im 19 in Sweden doing my last HS week, got like 1 week left untill graduation. And i work Hourly at a Ex Ford dealer. We stepped away from Ford at the beggining of 2024. I had a Aprentice ship there for 2 years thru the School. i got hired 6 months in. Got a company supplied Box and tools. Good coworkers that Help out and teach me stuff. And we dont try to uppsell stuff that isnt needed. What i know my co-workers have never tried to throw me under the buss. alltough i only got paid 10dollars/hour as a aprentice im glad i got the job. Flat rate here in Sweden isnt common at all in the automotive. Even this montht when i have been in school alot to make sure i pass in the classes i havent been at work at all 0 hours this month, but they still paid me 290bucks this month for some reason.

[@TheYouTubeMechanic]

One example is when I was a new lube tech at bell ford, I had years of experience as a mechanic and wanted to move up. I would diagnose problems just to have the advisors give my work to other techs in their department because it helped their bottom line while also cutting my paycheck. The policy was to give me the work because duh. I diagnosed it, that's my job.

[@Lancemechanics]

I've seen same things in dealerships here. But the lube guy was hourly..yeah that's rough man..:(

[@VetteZilla]

If you’re a mechanic like my self.. do your self a favor transition to aviation and get your A&P license. It freaking pays! I worked at pratt & whitney & GE for the past decade building jet engines for the government and commercial. Made 100k+ a year since i was 21. No Bs going on like this. Most shops will supply their own tools. Overtime Is usually wide open. Saturdays time & a half, Sunday’s double time. Im telling you this is the way to go.

[@DavidWilliams-nl2lw]

Thanks for this information, a true Roadmap out of this miserable career path.

[@emiliorodriguez3418]

painting for auto collision is similar also environment can be super toxic some old school guys give young generation workers hard times for no reason or think your going to take there job which is weird when you wanna only do the job right.! But there is some really good whole hearted people in the industry kinda rare to come across at times and favoritism be crazy to 💀💀

[@eliflores-df9vf]

That’s the first thing I was told going into a new shop as a painter “take my job if you can” on the first day lol

[@emiliorodriguez3418]

@@eliflores-df9vf Yea some painters are chill and will put you on game and other painters will want to see you lose and throw you under the bus for any little mistake instead of helping out

[@GregoryBirulkin]

Service manager, bad parts department and service writers. When a shop goes downhill, like the government. For your own peace of mind & health you have to leave, you can't change it, even the automotive repair industry!

[@BeingInTheMessiah]

I feel so lucky, got into the industry 6 months ago at a transit authority and they're so short mechanics everyone wants me to succeed and is always willing to answer a question or take a look at something with me. They can't really absorb the time cost of screw ups so they want everything done so it doesn't have to get re-done

[@Lancemechanics]

That's great to hear. Lucky truck and coach and heavy equipment tend to be alot more friendly at times.

[@markferraro5250]

Dude you are so right

[@sl0907]

Shop culture is definitely important. It's the opposite at my work. Comebacks dont usually go back to the same person cuz the advisors "dont trust them to fix it" anymore. So it goes to people who are usually more consistent and they get left to fix another person's mess but their times get covered internally.

[@ianbreman2376]

When i was a young tech just out of school i was working in a dealership that will remain nameless. There were 4 of us new guys. We actually had to share 2 bays they were technically 4 as these 2 bays were over the pits. The other techs got together and made a board posting a bonus for the technician that had the highest basic service tickets from service plans included in purchases of vehicles sold off the lot. The 4 of us went to war thunking the loss of time in the short term would be made up by the bonus. I personally worked nearly 100hrs of time at a loss trying to win. I made less than 25% of a normal paycheck for the month trying to get the bonus of $1000 for being the best and thought it would at the very least make an impact on my future at the dealership. It was all fake and management knew what they did and said nothing benefiting from the free labour. The person that “won” ended up in hospital from working themselves almost literally to death and barely eating in the aftermath of the scheme. I came in 3rd….

[@Lancemechanics]

holy. sorry you and your colleges had to go through that bs. they all know what they are doing

[@paintballalienindy09]

I swear to god someone cut my wires one time on a pretty gravy engine recall. They gave me all of them cuz I’m fast and don’t break stuff. Went to lunch and started it up and prefect clean cuts on the wires to the throttle body. Also had people put empty beers on my box so it looks like I’m drinking on the job.

[@Lancemechanics]

there's some really asshats out there. my teacher worked at a gm once and told me he was doing a engine job and had come back from lunch. hadn't bolted a head up. got it together that day. well he fired that up and it was making noise. tore engine down to find somebody had thrown a penny into one of the cylinders. copper wont damage engine but it was enough that he lost a days worth of work.

[@markm0000]

Some messed up bs. I’m hourly but still I’ve experienced getting inefficient advice from old techs. I’ve decided to stop asking them and even if they tell me something I’m most likely not doing it.

[@Lancemechanics]

its brutal. i hear it everywhere. experienced way to much. hope more people comment with this bs were dealing with.

[@SLICKKID74]

I worked the first 10 of 23 yrs in dealerships. The "politics" is why I HATED the dealership experience. I went into indys and thrived. I believe dealerships along with the flat rate system is why the industry is what it is now. And it's funny watching this thing come full circle and now the dealers are BEGGING for just bodies now in the service departments.

[@DostiesGarage]

I am hourly too with a flat rate bonus... a lot of times I'll ask for help and I'll get radio silence and passive aggressive looks.. It really sucks man

[@islander1260]

Leave. Go to a corporate owned luxury line. Leave now, don’t wait. If you enjoy being a tech go enjoy a good environment with good people. Go before you become too negative to succeed in a better place.

[@PAYTHEMFOLKS]

@@DostiesGarage literally dealing with this same situation 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@jacksautorepair]

If you hear I went back to the dealership as a technician on flatrate, then you know I'm desperate and hit rock bottom 😡 Nah, I'm not going back. I would do yard work and cut firewood before going back to flatrate. Even if they sucker you in and give you a decent guarantee, if you don't earn that guarantee every week consistently, they will take it away. So it's like not having a guarantee at all. You go to the bank to get a loan they ask what you made in the past 3 years, and what you make right now. If you are honest, you don't know if you are going to make your tool payment next week. You don't know! A banker would have to be a fool to loan a mechanic money without collateral, like land or a house. They don't take tools or tool boxes as collateral. That stuff is worth pennies on the dollar.

[@Lancemechanics]

good thing you mentioned the bank. buying a house was a chore. cause in a mechanic i had to get written job salaries and bunch of other stuff so I was "safe" in there eyes. even if i was the last mechanic on earth they would of make me crawl over coals it seems.

[@jacksautorepair]

@@Lancemechanics Not to mention, most mechanics are paying the equivalent of a new car payment for tools, and the tool buying never ends. Because everything keeps changing! So you're paying what amounts to a new car payment but you're driving a 25 year old Ford Ranger! Pretty much

[@fastinradfordable]

@@jacksautorepairas a mechanic I built a 1981 vw tdi swapped vw rabbit pickup. 75mpg I’m able to put $3k in savings per month.

[@PositivelyNegativeOfficial]

I work in a railroad shop, very small crew. I know *way* more than the other guys give me credit for and there is always some kind of narcissistic, rude, short tempered attitude from them towards me. They don’t have a 100th of the drive that I do, yet I am constantly discouraged and never really shown how to do anything. I’m trusted with nothing and treated like I’m just an annoying dimwit who needs to be babysat.

[@Lancemechanics]

something about the trades does this to people :/

[@vtecbrown]

This is especially true in white collar environments.

[@timecountry3839]

In America everyone wants you to fail at everything you do. Americans don’t want to be outdone. Even my grandfather has sabotaged me on occasions.

[@marcodarko6941]

That's a shame. I know where you are coming from there. I had to let go of my own dad. After I had forgiven him for years for some of the things he did to me in a childhood.. I knew he was working hard and was a troubled veteran but I forgave him every time. He allowed his woman to trash talk me and slander my name for years. When I found out everything she did I confronted him.. why he didn't defend me and put a stop to it.. he turned it all back around me and defended her, made it out that I was the problem even though he did acknowledge right off the bat that he knew she was spreading lies about me. And at that, I could no longer give forgiveness. Her smear campaign damaged in ways that are nearly impossible to recover from but on the bright side a few people acknowledged the lies and did defend me when I wasn't there to do it myself. Take note men.. family will screw you over quicker than anyone else (because they think you'll forgive them faster than anyone else when they do) and my older brothers were in on some of that as well.. been done with them too.

[@timecountry3839]

@@marcodarko6941 I like to think the attacks from family members prepared us for what our society has become. We have been tested and learned the hard way who we can trust. Won’t be fooled so easily going forward.

[@marcodarko6941]

Good point. I agree, have stood on my own my whole life. @@timecountry3839

[@300rumman]

You should do a video on how you are screwed by warranty pay!

[@Lancemechanics]

Oh yeah..just did one one stuff we do and arnt paid for

[@dant8213]

Dude that's so true, we all love throwing eachother under the bus. I didn't even notice it until I became a foreman

[@Lancemechanics]

Now you have to deal with all that drama. Oof :(

[@newedgegt1947]

Learn the service Manager side of the industry, and start your own shop.

[@Lancemechanics]

one day :)

[@tomwinslow5086]

I could not work like that. I thought I might try being a tech when I retire from my current profession. If what you say is true and rampant, I would not last. I can't do people like that. I would not tolerate people doing it to me. I wonder if managers encourage that behavior so they can divide and conquer? I guarantee you I would leave before I would participate.

[@johnsradios484]

They want you to pass but not as much as themselves

[@Lancemechanics]

Kinda gate keeping the progression

[@13aceofspades13]

People in the work force always pretend to care about you, in reality they are just looking for ways to use you and take advantage of you. My favorie quote from seniored workers "No one wants to work anymore." As they sit in their chair, watching other people do the work. They are only angry the new workers coming into the work force won't kiss their backside and suck off their toes. They are being made do their fair share and they don't like it.

[@dwhit4431]

I own my own shop all of my techs are hourly no longer chasing the clock as I did my hole life at the dealer and I must say it’s a great environment all of my tech tend to help the younger ones coming up if we don’t give them a chance then no one will wish you the best and if you’re ever in Tulsa looking for a job give me a holler

[@Lancemechanics]

ty! Never against moving. lot to see all of the usa! :P

[@dwhit4431]

You will find the right place and follow your dreams 👍🏻

[@frankfrosolonejr7010]

Like every old timer I replaced I think they knew that the bosses would do the same to them but it’s bred in the office before it makes it to us in the shop just a horrible industry to be apart of skilled labor should work for themselves not for a dealer where there is no incentive for having skills.

[@Lancemechanics]

i feel more will try. if i convinced one person in the comments on any of my videos then things will slowly change. seriously considering it if youtube takes off. i'd like a shop. hard to start here in canada but ill find a way! :)

[@jerrykurl69]

This is all unfortunately true, many times you got a tech in the next bay working on let’s say a warranty heater core or evap core in a grand Cherokee, very very common. The longer they are on that job, the more chance you can pull a few more jobs. But!! If you are the doctor in the house, you may not wanna pull that next job blindfolded, it could be a warranty tranny in a 3500. Free diag and tranny teardown and pathetic pay.

[@victorsandoval1060]

Do you know where mechanics go when they die? If you never heard the poem before you might like it I recommend it.

[@AfternoonProductions]

its about the same in the electrical trade, however the shortage of techs help alleviate some tension since we're not taking hours as much as the mechanic industry it seems

[@Lancemechanics]

i was not expecting that. sorry to hear man!

[@timwilliams2035]

Fitting on gas turbines. Nobody wants a failure. Nobody

[@bradlybaldwin9564]

I'm in.tbr machining trade.its been like that since I've been in trade

[@Lancemechanics]

which is unfortunate. with the way people are these days. younger people are just not putting up with bs. seems like all industries are going to be hurting soon for talent.

[@thespammerhammer]

There was one incident from a so called "honda dealer" that installed a ball joint. We inspected the vehicle and told the vehicle owner that the balljoint nut is incorrect, bring it back to the dealer for warranty. What are the chances the owner drove away and the suspension components later fell apart. We go and help the customer at the side of the road and reassemble the suspension so the owner can bring it back for warranty. The customer later asks us to inspect the second replacement and what do we find? the same incorrect nut. We took the time to source the correct nut and that's the aha moment for the customer. This customer will never purchase a honda ever again. There are lots of stories that pertain to that so called "honda dealer" and people learn who is right, wrong and dishonest. Unfortunately, that dealer represents more than one manufacturer in the city. So how and who do you trust? Cameras and video is crucial. "Flat rate breeds contempt" and keeping a recording device is the only option left with "hand written and copied work orders". We all know why the Bavarian Manure Wagon dealership closed.

[@Theshitboxtech]

Saddly this is 95% of the shops out there. I was at one shop where they would literally " play pranks " but it was nothing short of vandalism and harassment. Funny thing is once they found out what I do for my other job I was left alone. They were just more sneaky about it. Tell management I was smoking in the shop while working on fuel systems , I don't smoke and if I did I'm not retarded. Or say I sleeping in cars or driving recklessly on test drives. But since I knew they didn't want a face to face altercation I would bust my ass to get my jobs done just so I can take jobs off of their boards. For about 3 months I was the weekly leader in efficency. My best week I was 224%. Which made them lose their minds. I am glad I am out of that field now I just have to deal with getting shot at a few times a year hahaahah

[@Lancemechanics]

well glad you got out. and ty for your service! :)

[@kevinbroadway5398]

thats funny cuz everone knows that the dealership is not the place to go unless its a warranty item recall or if you need to get a dealer part only

[@jasonkoplen2554]

This isn’t exclusive to automotive, it’s the fundamental flaw of being an employee vs being self employed. There’s never enough room at the top. Employers want you to earn just enough to get by, but not enough to become an independent competitor . Coworkers want you to fail, because someone has to do the dirty work. So unless you work for yourself, putting in the extra effort just fattens the pockets of those above you. Come in early, stay late, sacrifice your existence , and one day your kids can work for their kids.

[@uhsdef78]

Kinda related I tried to bring this up when I was looking at histories why things were being sold when it's not even close to due example I had a 19 odyssey with 70k that had 3 timing belt jobs done already by others there I showed the bosses an they just swept it under the rug it's to cut throat to survive

[@Lancemechanics]

Wow.... I can understand tensioner on those..always leaking. But damn. How did the customer even accept that :(

[@indy3man]

Hourly apprentice at a mom and pop shop here, the master mechanic in my shop has been wrenching for 45 years and is always quick to help me out or give me advice. My 3d day in the shop he gave me a cornwell powered box, torque stick set, and a snapon screwdriver set. He aint like what youre describing at all.

[@randysterling4700]

Sounds like he most likely wants a run at your bonus hole.

[@bigsmk9168]

@@randysterling4700lmao “bonus hole” 🤣🤣🤣. If he asks you to smoke with him every chance he gets during lunch you better rethink that snap on screw driver set. 🤣

[@COBRO98]

There are exceptions to every rule but 98% of your coworkers want you to fail because it makes them look better, you'll learn this eventually

[@jackoverholser8399]

What advice do you have for someone who is starting in the industry besides leaving the industry

[@Lancemechanics]

Don't take it home with you. Ask alot of questions and as an apprentice, leave the ego at the door. This sounds bad, but do as they say. Don't do as they do. You'll hear that alot. Going to be posting more videos but it's a complicated subject.

[@jackoverholser8399]

Thank you sir!

[@Bravo_L]

Industry is full of people who should be doing another job.

[@kevinbroadway5398]

but i been thinkin on going to college and taking a budle of classes to get certified but you got me thinkin cuz i remember working at the marriott hotel and i use to make 200 bucks a day in tips in 1995 so thats proof the customers liked me but the cook and his girlfriend-a waitrees there- did not like me, her cuz i cut into her pie and him i tried to satisfy the customers by add ons and sauces and such and if i got something wrong i'd give them a free ice cream or somethin, and of course the mngr did not like that, so long story short they had a group meeting and asked me to join and the mngr asked me to name everything on the menu and all the ingrediants and i probably could have but i just said no, so she promotes the cook on the spot he takes me over to the bar and fires me, then on my way out i see the little blonde waitress, his girlfriend, talking to the mngr. so i waived good bye and said thanks and the cook/mngr said its nothing personal and i thought for me it is

[@Lancemechanics]

Woah.

[@glennz6686]

Almost every job out there this going on.

[@Lancemechanics]

thats unfortunate. :(

[@mattlenz8554]

It’s Even like this in an hourly shop. It’s more of an ego and greed thing if anything all about the dollar

[@Lancemechanics]

ah sorry to hear that.

[@jaygold4467]

Evil.

[@TrungNguyen-ou3ht]

15 years with Honda. Still young thinking about walking away, too much backstabbing, lies, if you're skill with great working attitude, knowledgeable, efficient,and honest with the customers the only reward is to working harder while the cry babies get whatever they wanted. Flat rate system is a joke now.

[@Lancemechanics]

sorry your going through that bs man! its average dealership life. I hope you find something that's way better in the near future! its never to late to learn all over again as I'm doing

[@thisisausername1265]

Why help the competition learn to take food off your plate and money out of your wallet? That's the sad truth of why it's so difficult to train and retain talent.

[@Lancemechanics]

Yep. Sad but true

[@worlddaves]

Do service advisor or mechs even care? Munee is munee

[@mariofrappier2328]

How about service manager playing favorites feeding his pals, while others go broke. Sorry i dont kiss ass.

[@Lancemechanics]

thats a long video, bias in the dealership. they say everything is fair but it never is.

[@jg7038]

that definitely happens but you have to know for sure before you get mad, you cant just assume because the boss talks to them a lot that they get paid better. Some people just like to chit-chat

[@islander1260]

Your videos are not accurate. It all depends on where you work, who you work with and the type of technician you are. In my environment, a corporate owned LEXUS store, nobody wants any of the technicians to fail. We actually strive on working together as a team, we are all individual flat rate technicians, however we are definitely a team. I can guarantee you, if a new technician joins us, they feel welcomed right away. It not only builds confidence in the new individual but questions flow freely and answers are quick and accurate. I feel bad for techs who feel the way you do. It’s not a good place to be. There are great places to work as a professional technician, you just need to find one.

[@Lancemechanics]

100% not every place is the same. There are good places. But to say not accurate is perspective. The vast majority of techs have been through all this. It's never talked about. U till it is how can we fix the other places? Why is there a mechanics shortage? Why do wages suck. There will always be the exception to the rule as is your case

[@RAHMX145]

Holy shit what a toxic work place. I never worked flat rate and so thankfully I didn't have those experiences.

[@christucker6315]

You must have been at some shitty shops

[@Lancemechanics]

Just not blind to what's happening around me

[@train815]

Look man, when you focus on the negatives, all you're going to find is problems. I havent heard one solution or positive aspect of this industry come from you. Based on some of your videos, it sounds like you've worked in some really shitty shops and because of that you are burnt out, understandbly so. But when you make these negative videos it doesnt benefit the industry or any young guys coming into it. All of us on watching this video and commenting, we have the power to try and shape our environment. Be the change you want to see

[@Lancemechanics]

oh it benefits people. were stopping young talent from wasting there time in this industry. I will direct a 100 brilliance minds to truck and coach, heavy duty, electrician, plumbing, carpentry all other trades before i let them get into automotive. All the others will too. its bad when trades schools teachers are preaching it too. Negatives have to be talked about

[@COBRO98]

That's because you don't yet realize that young men shouldn't be going into it.. after 20 years, when I can think of a positive I will let you know; it's most likely the worst trade you can get into and you'll be paid half of any other trade while expected to be a jack-of-all-trades. It's the only trade where you're expected to self-purchase not only your own tools but SIX FIGURES worth and it never stops. 85% of the money earned goes into your boss's pocket. Leave now and do something else