Your Crypto Tax Is Increasing In The UK Autumn Budget?! Here Is How

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@dyztructive
@dyztructive Ай бұрын
I cant stand the UK government
@michaellamont2605
@michaellamont2605 Ай бұрын
Where you moving? I'm going travelling to find out
@RevvedUpBiker
@RevvedUpBiker Ай бұрын
They're thieves. They make themselves rich and don't want anyone else to be rich.
@addamski
@addamski Ай бұрын
HATE the UK Government, HATE Kier, just when you think you may have found a way to become more financially independent from the state controlling you they find a way to take everything from you!
@cathalrooney9409
@cathalrooney9409 27 күн бұрын
Just move to Portugal 🇵🇹
@chris_david_trades
@chris_david_trades Ай бұрын
Crazy that the UK deems anyone making over 50k a year well off. Couple of kids and try to live in an area where you won't get stabbed and that 50k dissappears pretty quickly.
@michaellamont2605
@michaellamont2605 Ай бұрын
UK 🇬🇧 countryside!
@evelbsstudio
@evelbsstudio Ай бұрын
especially if people know you earn that much your more likely to get robbed, with the increase in crime over recent years, that government will not admit.
@innovirtua
@innovirtua Ай бұрын
@@michaellamont2605 Great idea, until they impose Land Taxes for anyone not "rewilding" their pastoral land. Wait until it costs £20k a year in taxes to run 8 acres. They will want everyone back in the surveilled cities.
@IsaacSMILE
@IsaacSMILE Ай бұрын
im skint after payday due to nursery costs, bills, mortgage, and first port service charge.... im nearer 60k a year.... need 70 80k a year for nice buffer
@Metogo61
@Metogo61 Ай бұрын
I see a lot of crypto investors leaving Rip off Britain...
@aries6776
@aries6776 Ай бұрын
I don't. We've only got a month left to leave.
@Kikiconsilience
@Kikiconsilience Ай бұрын
@@aries6776not true. You can leave and sell then and never come back.
@aries6776
@aries6776 Ай бұрын
@@Kikiconsilience Also not true. You can leave and sell and not come back for 5 years. After that you are fine. But not if they implement an exit tax like France. You are however likely to be fine with crypto since it's going to be difficult to stop you taking your assets with you.
@adirice
@adirice Ай бұрын
​@@aries6776put everything in defi and away from a cex, it's not taxable anywhere as I'm not holding anything 😉. I'm totally in defi, saitacard is released later this month as well as a defi off-ramp, it has a $100k cash withdrawal limit and an iban number attached so you can send funds to any bank account anywhere in the world totally by-passing the entire UK banking system
@SK-oc5qb
@SK-oc5qb Ай бұрын
If it goes over the 20% I’ll seriously consider moving
@michaellamont2605
@michaellamont2605 Ай бұрын
Where's your favourite location?
@censorshipBS
@censorshipBS Ай бұрын
If you already have crypto on an exchange that were bought at the time of you being a UK resident you will have to pay UK tax on that crypto. You have to leave the UK before you buy it to not pay UK tax 😊❤
@SK-oc5qb
@SK-oc5qb Ай бұрын
are you sure? Tax is paid when you sell and not when you buy it? If you stayed away for at least 5 years
@censorshipBS
@censorshipBS Ай бұрын
@@SK-oc5qb thats what ive been told
@st4rbuk
@st4rbuk Ай бұрын
It is 40% or higher already if you are involved in defi and earn a semi decent income.
@AgentSmith2K
@AgentSmith2K Ай бұрын
It’s ridiculous that in the last 3 years the CGT exemption went from £12,300 to £3,000. If it goes the income tax route then people will be leaving the UK
@hendrix2430
@hendrix2430 Ай бұрын
imagine making 200K in the bull run, and giving back HALF to the government, who then will be giving it away to useless unemployed chavs with 10 kids
@octavcotet8832
@octavcotet8832 Ай бұрын
This is all about ,this is how they get votes
@Netwalker988
@Netwalker988 Ай бұрын
No even chavs anymore it will be to immigrants who get new build homes for free
@iwanttoliveinthewoods
@iwanttoliveinthewoods Ай бұрын
It is unfavourable already. Why do I have to give the government more money to waste from gains I've made on taxed money when the assumed non of the risk. They wouldn't pay 20% of my losses back to me.
@mrslavd
@mrslavd Ай бұрын
They won't take anything from me. I am leaving the UK next year. ✌
@Dipsomaniac
@Dipsomaniac Ай бұрын
If they bring it in line with income tax, I'm leaving the country and they can kiss goodbye to ever seeing a penny of tax from me.
@aDeedADay
@aDeedADay Ай бұрын
i fully agree. im in the same boat.
@foreverkripto
@foreverkripto Ай бұрын
where to go?
@aries6776
@aries6776 Ай бұрын
How are you going to avoid an exit tax?
@brillywilly2998
@brillywilly2998 Ай бұрын
Perhaps by not paying and never coming back...
@contemplating1015
@contemplating1015 Ай бұрын
Leave the UK and make the disposal in a CGT friendly country and remain outside of the UK for a minimum of 5 years. Use proceeds to acquire a visa by investment and improve your options.
@aries6776
@aries6776 Ай бұрын
About 30 days left to do so....
@Kikiconsilience
@Kikiconsilience Ай бұрын
@@aries6776not true 😂
@travelwithwill1
@travelwithwill1 Ай бұрын
It’s a joke! In Switzerland it’s 0% CGT. Why is it a super rich country because rich people invest there.
@19aries81
@19aries81 Ай бұрын
Looks like moving to Switzerland could be an option I I make millions this bull run then 😅
@BDECOR96
@BDECOR96 Ай бұрын
This is probably the best video on the upcoming taxes on the autumn budget I’ve seen
@thecoinknowledge
@thecoinknowledge Ай бұрын
Thanks, glad it was useful!
@tombeeks3406
@tombeeks3406 Ай бұрын
its gambling shouldnt be taxed
@michaellamont2605
@michaellamont2605 Ай бұрын
Gambling not taxed!?
@aries6776
@aries6776 Ай бұрын
@@michaellamont2605 Nope.
@aries6776
@aries6776 Ай бұрын
Crypto is too dangerous for UK consumers but should be taxed if you happen to get lucky. However, betting your life savings on the horses is fine and tax free! UK, crypto hub of the world.
@zackbosher104
@zackbosher104 Ай бұрын
Its why I dont spend my own money - i use personal loans to risk the banks money instead. Im not risking my personal wealth (of which i have already paid tax) to then pay tax should I make capital gain.
@heavenly_devil91
@heavenly_devil91 Ай бұрын
​@aries6776 yeah you can bet on horses cos they can rig it and control it as much as they please, crypto is not so easy
@btpennycook
@btpennycook Ай бұрын
I am moving to Thailand CGT is only 15%
@michap9839
@michap9839 Ай бұрын
Cyprus less
@PeterCrawley-j7k
@PeterCrawley-j7k Ай бұрын
Good analysis. All the risk, even if we get through the bull market, and then we get done over by the government!
@wissiwizard4536
@wissiwizard4536 Ай бұрын
Raising cap gains usually results in a loss for the gov since investors sell before the changes or refuse to sell at all
@aries6776
@aries6776 Ай бұрын
Well we only have 30 days. And even if you do hold on, eventually they'll get you.
@Kikiconsilience
@Kikiconsilience Ай бұрын
They don’t care UK hates people that are trying to get wealthy
@ejkalegal3145
@ejkalegal3145 Ай бұрын
I doubt they'll tax in line with income tax. Not in one move. Things won't be as bad as the naysayers on here - it is a normal tactic for govt to scare people beforehand, so that a milder than foreseen budget makes people think "it wasn't as bad as it could have been".
@atsuiwong
@atsuiwong Ай бұрын
This is labour gov we are dealing with, you must have your eyes closed to what's going on 😂
@innovirtua
@innovirtua Ай бұрын
I guess this is the expected post from HMRC then.
@19aries81
@19aries81 Ай бұрын
I think you're underestimating this government's stupidity
@innovirtua
@innovirtua Ай бұрын
@@19aries81 It's not stupidity, it's arrogance. They know exactly what they are doing as they are reading it off the "next action" list sent over from the WEF. They'll do it anyway, fully knowing the chaos it will cause.
@aries6776
@aries6776 Ай бұрын
Bringing it inline with dividends tax bands and making it effectively immediately seems to me to be the most 'sensible' option for the government.
@aDeedADay
@aDeedADay Ай бұрын
as soon as it goes up enough im out of here and wont look back. Absolute disaster is this country why would you stay other than friends and family
@Rob-md6ml
@Rob-md6ml Ай бұрын
Good job I've made absolutely f all from crypto then
@Kenzag454
@Kenzag454 Ай бұрын
Very informative. Keep the videos going
@Ad-mm7ef
@Ad-mm7ef Ай бұрын
If they do up these taxes it will be a good incentive for me to not sell my main holdings btc , and hope in the future governments wake up to the fact no new money will enter the country due to ridiculous capital gain tax. I will just off load my alts this bull run . Cash loses value anyway due to printing paper money . There is also the possibility in the future banks will custody crypto and they will probably offer returns as a incentive for you to store your crypto with them , thats my logic and hope if the government gets even more ridiculous than they are now.
@ijustwanttoaskaquestion106
@ijustwanttoaskaquestion106 Ай бұрын
I think it is criminal that the government can change the CGT rates during the current tax year. I earn 10K a year but will be classed as wealthy as I will have capital gains this year and next because I have been putting every spare penny and previous investments into crypto since 2021. If I was renting I would consider leaving the UK before the changes take place but l have a modest home in a cheap part of the country and sales are taking over a year in this area.
@angieberry935
@angieberry935 Ай бұрын
I’m learning from each video. I consider this the best so far as there’s a number of tax implications to ponder on when making wise choices for crypto gains. Thank you both. 👍🏻
@thecoinknowledge
@thecoinknowledge Ай бұрын
Thanks very much, glad the videos are useful!
@censorshipBS
@censorshipBS Ай бұрын
Ive got some crypto tax advice, make sure you have enough to leave the UK and never come back 😊
@Danxr-k4j
@Danxr-k4j Ай бұрын
Brilliant. So I missed out I. The last 2021 bullrun with XRP thanks to the SEC and just I was getting ready to take profits in this bullrun. These knobs are raising the tax
@JonJon-su7yo
@JonJon-su7yo Ай бұрын
Your going nowhere with xrp mate ,😂😂😂.seriously get out of it
@matthewfindlay9010
@matthewfindlay9010 Ай бұрын
Never in history has the institutions like black rock actively told people to invest in an asset or stock to become richer now all of a sudden they are promoting bitcoin as the next big thing. Meanwhile their investors take profits when its pumps by 10 percent. They become richer of the back of Bitcoin maxis who believe the hype
@aries6776
@aries6776 Ай бұрын
Same here. I'm late in the game to crypto. Now I have a bit invested for the parabolic bit and a lot more of it is going to go on tax....
@Dan-l2y2r
@Dan-l2y2r Ай бұрын
They don't know you have crypto in a private wallet. Sell it for cash to individuals. Pay NO tax.
@bingowings65
@bingowings65 Ай бұрын
Osborne raised CGT from 18% to 28% and the HRMC took in £2B less. Starmer has mentioned this fact. So if the aim is to bring in more taxes I'd doubt they will raise CGT that much.
@Rob_Davidson82
@Rob_Davidson82 Ай бұрын
It’s comical listening to left leaning economic lecturers like Richard Murphy who say, likes it’s a forgone conclusion, that equalising CGT will bring in £12billion. Then you read his research and it even states it makes no allowances for changes in tax payer behaviour 🤷‍♂️ Typical academics with no real world experience!
@manonamission123
@manonamission123 Ай бұрын
I sold all my crypto and brought Microstrategy (MSTR) tax-free in a Stocks and Shares ISA. Their stock has been correlated with BTC as they own 252,220 BTC. I brought MSTR in my pension as well by converting it to a SIPP. Best decision I ever made!
@XORTION
@XORTION Ай бұрын
Fked if btc collapse
@aulday
@aulday Ай бұрын
Putting cgt in line with dividens will be such a hike that surely they'll end up with less tax as people will either hold their assets or migrate 🤔
@aries6776
@aries6776 Ай бұрын
Not if they bring in an exit tax like France.
@aulday
@aulday Ай бұрын
​@@aries6776 if it's too draconian, investors won't sell their assets and the govt will loose out also. Keeping faith for a good rate 🫢
@alexanderrowe790
@alexanderrowe790 Ай бұрын
@@aries6776 how do you enforce an exit tax when you can just remember your seed phrase?
@aries6776
@aries6776 Ай бұрын
@@alexanderrowe790 Sure with crypto in cold wallets it's going to be a nightmare to 'get' everyone but there are many other assets that are not as easily transported
@ApexCypher_
@ApexCypher_ Ай бұрын
Why would you sell Bitcoin now? It’s just about to be adopted globally as a new asset class. The bull market hasn’t started yet.
@aries6776
@aries6776 Ай бұрын
You wouldn't and you only likely have 30 days anyway. But you have to sell it at some point... It's just going to get a lot more expensive if you live in the UK unless you are one of those super-rich foreign types.
@ApexCypher_
@ApexCypher_ Ай бұрын
@@aries6776 Like most assets you’ll be able to borrow against it.
@Dan-l2y2r
@Dan-l2y2r Ай бұрын
​@@aries6776😂 Here in Portugal, Brits ARE "those super rich foreign types" 😂
@Originalclassics1980
@Originalclassics1980 Ай бұрын
Thank you very much for your information on crypto tax very concerned on the capital gains as over never cashed in on bitcoin since 2017 big big gains over the years specifically now so thank you for your content James
@CuBixxx86
@CuBixxx86 Ай бұрын
Time to leave.
@aries6776
@aries6776 Ай бұрын
Great interview. I would argue one point: I think Labour have anticipated they are going to hit the middle-income people. They just don't care.
@ADNZ5442
@ADNZ5442 Ай бұрын
I believe Labour will crash the Economy in October, and am considering shorting the FTSE100 soon
@grimaldus1967
@grimaldus1967 Ай бұрын
I believe Labour are going to destroy the country entirely.
@aries6776
@aries6776 Ай бұрын
Like Farage did with Brexit and shorted the pound. Good idea.
@RjJr01
@RjJr01 Ай бұрын
Can we get some advice on how to move crypto from personal to a limited company. It would be much appreciated, thanks
@edwardvk
@edwardvk Ай бұрын
Yes, advice on this please.
@Eding4u
@Eding4u Ай бұрын
I've signed up with Jamie and have to say, h and his team have given me first class service.
@alan6
@alan6 Ай бұрын
Is it expensive?
@hoganeye
@hoganeye Ай бұрын
@@alan6 Depends. It's expensive if you have small gains. Only makes sense if you have fairly large gains with many crypto transactions, otherwise better to do it yourself.
@thecoinknowledge
@thecoinknowledge Ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback and I'm glad Myna are doing a great job
@Jyothife
@Jyothife Ай бұрын
They are against BTC but charge you taxes??
@AtticusDenzil
@AtticusDenzil Ай бұрын
they want to get in before retail and then sell to you and tax you
@aries6776
@aries6776 Ай бұрын
Pretty much! Don't want you making any money from crypto but if you do, they are going to take their pound of flesh. We are a cryto hub after all, Rishi Sunak told us so.
@vthelastrun3290
@vthelastrun3290 Ай бұрын
Thank for the video buddy please make more in the future when we finally know whats happening
@thecoinknowledge
@thecoinknowledge Ай бұрын
Glad it was useful! Sure, will do another video when we know for sure
@sarahroberts6413
@sarahroberts6413 Ай бұрын
Thank you. Very informative
@thecoinknowledge
@thecoinknowledge Ай бұрын
Thanks, glad it was helpful!
@andrewcooper-nk8sl
@andrewcooper-nk8sl Ай бұрын
Incorporation was mentioned but getting a bank for crypto is very difficult, do you have any suggestions?
@jonbarker92
@jonbarker92 Ай бұрын
I don't see AIA being reduced to zero as anyone making any gain whatsoever would need to do a tax return in that instance. I work in an accountancy firm and from our dealings with HMRC they are struggling enough without adding thousands and thousands more who have to file a return each year.
@myna6680
@myna6680 Ай бұрын
Absolutely. It already seems insane the amount that needs to be processed. Especially when the proceeds threshold is wildly low when crypto investors can breach this easily due to a higher average TXN volume.
@aries6776
@aries6776 Ай бұрын
I laugh thinking about them processing my tens of thousands of taxable events due to my crypto bots each year. Good luck with that lot.
@sleepless1978
@sleepless1978 Ай бұрын
Good video guys 👍 Looking forward to a follow up after the budget is announced.
@thecoinknowledge
@thecoinknowledge Ай бұрын
Thanks, will do another one following the budget once we know for sure
@funland108
@funland108 Ай бұрын
Really useful conversation. Thanks guys.
@thecoinknowledge
@thecoinknowledge Ай бұрын
Thanks, glad it was helpful!
@Mark-bp4lw
@Mark-bp4lw Ай бұрын
They will up tax to 70% now im in crypto
@fabulousglasswarden
@fabulousglasswarden Ай бұрын
Diversification and options like staking, crypto index funds and yield farming are great for passive income in crypto.
@sornreed
@sornreed Ай бұрын
Invest straight into a SIPP. Reclaim that tax. Put it to better use.
@save400
@save400 Ай бұрын
With 14B the UK makes through capital gains.. if they’ll increase it by 10% that will grind additional 1.4B. is it really worth to upset 3M people paying this tax in the UK?
@jonbarker92
@jonbarker92 Ай бұрын
Up to 45 % if they marry it up with income. Splitting selling over 2 tax years and using spouse may be my course either that or borrow against it. I'm hoping just for modest increase in the 10%/20% current rare. Gotta love socialism
@mrwpg
@mrwpg Ай бұрын
Capital gains will never be conflated with Income tax... but if you are concerned just set up a company and either pay yourelf a regular dividend for 50k almost taxfree or move the assets abroad and pay no tax.
@jonbarker92
@jonbarker92 Ай бұрын
@@mrwpg moving assets to a company is a taxable event.
@AtticusDenzil
@AtticusDenzil Ай бұрын
@@mrwpg you need to pay tax on off shore business you do if you live in UK
@mrwpg
@mrwpg Ай бұрын
@@AtticusDenzil Isle of man no corporation tax. Cayman Islands has zero tax, you only have to pay income tax and dividend tax if you pay yourself a salary or dividend... an off shore asset has made no profit in Britain, no tax can be applied. You socialist paedophile scum are weird thinking you can steal everyones wealth...
@mrwpg
@mrwpg Ай бұрын
@@AtticusDenzil You listen to too much propaganda and don't pay enough attention... The British regime cannot legally seize property you do not own or unrealised profits... get help...
@dineshmistry8902
@dineshmistry8902 Ай бұрын
Thanx James... very topical conversation atm... THNX for this educational video 👍
@thecoinknowledge
@thecoinknowledge Ай бұрын
Glad it was useful!
@jboy8787
@jboy8787 Ай бұрын
Thanks for a different angle ! Cheers
@thecoinknowledge
@thecoinknowledge Ай бұрын
Thanks, glad it was of use!
@Electricpara
@Electricpara Ай бұрын
Great content. Thank you
@humpmcwilliams
@humpmcwilliams Ай бұрын
Awesome guys 🙏
@sanadw1549
@sanadw1549 Ай бұрын
Does this affect crypto stocks you may have like crypto miners ?
@thevalleyofdisappointment
@thevalleyofdisappointment Ай бұрын
what chance do you think they will also raise the CGT tax free allowance to be more inline with income tax? For those looking to slowly dca OUT of their crypto this could really help...
@PaulWK1972
@PaulWK1972 Ай бұрын
It could appease smaller investors if they increase the tax free amount at the same time that they increase the tax bands.
@myna6680
@myna6680 Ай бұрын
This is a really good idea. But I doubt it. Possible but they have just lowered this.
@aries6776
@aries6776 Ай бұрын
No chance! They can blame the Conservatives for dropping it so low. They won't reverse it. We can see that with them carrying on austerity and cutting winter fuel allowances for pensioners.
@airlinesecret6725
@airlinesecret6725 Ай бұрын
'We are completely speculating' you mean 'Completely F*cked'
@costynuta27
@costynuta27 Ай бұрын
So let’s just say I am registered with Kraken in Uk but when I will cash out i will sent the fiat to one of the banks in Europe..i don’t know for example Germany.. can I do that ? They are not going to charge me in both countries are they? I mean to pay capital gains tax in Uk and Germany? Or am I allowed to cash out any country I like even I’m registered in Uk Kraken? Thanks I would really appreciate your advice
@AtticusDenzil
@AtticusDenzil Ай бұрын
there's some paper work you can do, to declare in which country you pay the tax
@BristolMatt
@BristolMatt Ай бұрын
From my limited knowledge, I think that the moment you cash out, you are taxed. Doesn't matter what you do after.
@BristolMatt
@BristolMatt Ай бұрын
Unless you live in those countries you won't be able to. It still will be taxed from here in UK. They have thought all this through. There are only a few ways to get around it, and as a fairly low investing crypto bro, none seem to benefit me. I won't have enough to run away like most are doing, but I will have enough to be taxed nicely for the corrupt UK government.
@suep3151
@suep3151 Ай бұрын
You are taxed when you exchange to any other coin eg if you are trading in and out crypto,, not when you withdraw the cash. Sending cash elsewhere isn’t taxable, other than maybe for IHT.
@smalltimep
@smalltimep Ай бұрын
I think you would find it difficult to withdraw to a bank account other than one you've made deposits with. Not sure though.
@19aries81
@19aries81 Ай бұрын
I'll do everything I can to stop them getting my gains if I make ant in the bull run
@info7840
@info7840 Ай бұрын
What if you lose money in crypto can u claim back or wrote it off against other earnings
@rayrungay7401
@rayrungay7401 Ай бұрын
Great video, thanks very much
@thecoinknowledge
@thecoinknowledge Ай бұрын
Thanks, glad it helped!
@smithric
@smithric Ай бұрын
Really helpful. Thanks
@edc1569
@edc1569 Ай бұрын
If you’re in south east England you are just screwed by all these taxes, might as well leave the country if I can’t make a life here amongst family.
@TheGriffinUK
@TheGriffinUK Ай бұрын
What's your location got to do with it?
@northwestcoast
@northwestcoast Ай бұрын
@@TheGriffinUKmore expensive houses, therefore more inheritance tax
@robbybroon4904
@robbybroon4904 Ай бұрын
Jersey, Gurnsey, Gibraltar, IOM have 0% CGT. Brits can just move there…
@aries6776
@aries6776 Ай бұрын
In less than a month? I don't think many will be able to up sticks and move like that. The super-rich who already have residences in other countries can do what they want of course.
@petejames4672
@petejames4672 27 күн бұрын
Nope ... you can't just rock up and live there , do some research on how to live in iom for instance..
@robbybroon4904
@robbybroon4904 27 күн бұрын
@@petejames4672 yes you can. I do.
@AEgonCholakian
@AEgonCholakian Ай бұрын
Im ain't paying shit because Im not selling.
@CryptoCameraManUk
@CryptoCameraManUk Ай бұрын
Great Video James.
@thecoinknowledge
@thecoinknowledge Ай бұрын
Thanks, glad it was useful!
@MightyLockz
@MightyLockz Ай бұрын
Great video lads with some very interesting points made Appreciate your time as always 🤝
@thecoinknowledge
@thecoinknowledge Ай бұрын
Thanks, glad it was useful!
@Revo88888
@Revo88888 Ай бұрын
Maybe what they need to do is a time delay on the tax to allow investments to mature... or take into account large drops in prices after a swap has taken place...
@GD-sm5nz
@GD-sm5nz 20 күн бұрын
Do they tax stable coins?
@v3dsltd157
@v3dsltd157 Ай бұрын
Latest news is they aren't going to tax investors now.... let's hope it's correct!! 🤞
@JamesBond-wb1po
@JamesBond-wb1po Ай бұрын
IOM 0% it don't take a rocket scientist to work out what to do.
@bigben8272
@bigben8272 Ай бұрын
I am not a genius but the one thing we can guess is CGT will go up.
@aries6776
@aries6776 Ай бұрын
We won't tax 'working' people.... yes CGT is going up. Don't they think we had to work to buy our crypto in the first place? We didn't just inherit our wealth like the super-rich.
@jaffaman99
@jaffaman99 Ай бұрын
hmm additional starts at 125k now, not 150k. Tax is getting so outrageous here, it's a total middle class squeeze.
@aries6776
@aries6776 Ай бұрын
Yep but more billionaires in the UK than ever!
@Revo88888
@Revo88888 Ай бұрын
It's gonna get so messy taxing crypto. Eg. If someone makes realised gains then swaps to another crypto, and the price plummets, but with a large tax bill. Could stifle the industry imo.
@AtticusDenzil
@AtticusDenzil Ай бұрын
they need to drop tax
@evelbsstudio
@evelbsstudio Ай бұрын
with the last government they had plans to lower the tax threshold of the amount to get tax free before paying tax on crypto, it is well documented that they wanted to do this over several years until you do not get a tax free amount.
@aries6776
@aries6776 Ай бұрын
They did it. It went from 12700 to 6000 to now 3000. This did not effect the really well-off at all but was an effective tax on those of us with far less wealth.
@imzy0173
@imzy0173 Ай бұрын
They won't bring it in line with income tax, I think itll be something like 30%
@ka536-e1g
@ka536-e1g Ай бұрын
Will the changes take effect immediately after the budget or in the new tax year? I'm assuming the former
@thecoinknowledge
@thecoinknowledge Ай бұрын
We discuss this in the video at 22:34
@aries6776
@aries6776 Ай бұрын
My theory was it would cause an economic crash far worse than the mini-budget if they allowed people to 'cash out' before the financial year end and this video matched my theory. And they'd lose a load of tax revenue. I think Labour would be mad not to bring it into effect immediately.
@stuartnicholas572
@stuartnicholas572 Ай бұрын
Is there such a thing as a trust in the UK. What value of tax would be advised before opening one, and what is the cost of a trust in the UK
@neil7494
@neil7494 Ай бұрын
can we just take a crypto loan SAY FROM LIQUID LOANS in the stable coin then off ramp that
@MarkB4444
@MarkB4444 Ай бұрын
@@neil7494 any conversation from one crypto to another, including stable coins is classed as a transaction and taxable. Which is absolutely ridiculous if it’s not being crystallised back to an actual usable currency, but hey…
@robertgemmell1485
@robertgemmell1485 Ай бұрын
What rate would you be taxed if you don’t work and don’t have an income? Still the 10/20%? Etc or are you allowed an allowance of £12500 then pay tax? Or is CGT a standalone and it doesn’t matter if you’re working or not?
@michap9839
@michap9839 Ай бұрын
it's 3000 not 12500
@phungyi4947
@phungyi4947 Ай бұрын
Only applies to misc income, e.g. staking/interest rewards.
@ApexCypher_
@ApexCypher_ Ай бұрын
CGT allowance on crypto for 2023-2024 is £6,000. For 2024-2025 it drops to £3,000.
@robertgemmell1485
@robertgemmell1485 Ай бұрын
@@michap9839 yeah but what if you don’t work?
@robertgemmell1485
@robertgemmell1485 Ай бұрын
@@ApexCypher_ what if you don’t work and don’t earn anything?
@User677-56
@User677-56 Ай бұрын
If people can trade with BTC then tax wont matter?
@ostapovicz2151
@ostapovicz2151 Ай бұрын
People will not pay tax at all 🤷‍♂️
@stewartmoir9464
@stewartmoir9464 Ай бұрын
Just don't sell, borrow against it using decentralised financed
@nigelrogan8013
@nigelrogan8013 Ай бұрын
If your spouse is on lower rate tax isnt the best option to gift to them and get them cash out.
@harrymcpickles741
@harrymcpickles741 Ай бұрын
I hope they don’t go after offshore that would just be unfair. /s
@hoganeye
@hoganeye Ай бұрын
That's really messed up if they bring the law into immediate effect on 30th Oct. I thought I had until next year before any increase in CGT.
@ejkalegal3145
@ejkalegal3145 Ай бұрын
They won't.
@Rob_Davidson82
@Rob_Davidson82 Ай бұрын
@@ejkalegal3145if they increase CGT significantly they absolutely will make it with immediate effect
@myna6680
@myna6680 Ай бұрын
They have done this with furnished holiday let changes using the anti forestalling mechanism. I believe this is to not tank the markets with huge selloffs. Again, all speculation but it seems likely.
@aries6776
@aries6776 Ай бұрын
They have to bring it in immediately or like he said it would crash the economy worse than Liz the Lettuce
@Mr_Momentum
@Mr_Momentum Ай бұрын
I can't see it taking instant effect. I was planning on selling it all by the end of Feb anyway so I hope not!
@kml8732
@kml8732 Ай бұрын
Time for me to leave UK and go back to my home country. I havent moved to UK to be ripped off of my savings and investments I have worked so hard for. This is getting ridicolous.
@sapperRE
@sapperRE Ай бұрын
Very good information, thank you
@chris-jh4cx
@chris-jh4cx Ай бұрын
Only way is to leave. 🇺🇸✈️
@FirstDiplomaIT
@FirstDiplomaIT Ай бұрын
If they bring in changes to CGT tax thresholds income tax, when would this start? At start of budget or new tax year April 25?
@leecable1851
@leecable1851 Ай бұрын
April 2025 as this tax year threshold has already been set by previous government
@PaulB-q3d
@PaulB-q3d Ай бұрын
They can make changes anytime, especially if waiting would allow avoidance.
@leecable1851
@leecable1851 Ай бұрын
@PaulB-q3d no it's in British law that the tax year must run from April to April and no adjustments can be made during that tax year, any new laws regarding must run from the next tax year at the earliest point so any laws in the autumn budget must be implemented to start in the 25/26 tax window , otherwise it leaves the government open to being sued for giving false financial advice on taxes
@thecoinknowledge
@thecoinknowledge Ай бұрын
We discuss this in the video at 22:34
@aries6776
@aries6776 Ай бұрын
@@leecable1851 That's not the case. George Osborne brought in an overnight increase in capital gains tax back in 2010. Labour will surely follow suit.
@thesundayartclub1390
@thesundayartclub1390 Ай бұрын
I'm not sure I understood what you said about the 150k Tax bracket? Did you say 60%?
@ApexCypher_
@ApexCypher_ Ай бұрын
Once you earn over £125k you lose £1 of your £12.5k tax free allowance for every £2 you earn up to £150k. If you’re on over £150k you’re paying 60% tax. It’s a complete joke.
@thesundayartclub1390
@thesundayartclub1390 Ай бұрын
@@ApexCypher_ That’s insane. Is that currently or the new legislation coming in? So if I made 200K on a stock/crypto asset, I’d be paying 120K?
@myna6680
@myna6680 Ай бұрын
@@ApexCypher_ Almost correct. It's between £100K - £125K.
@ApexCypher_
@ApexCypher_ Ай бұрын
@@myna6680 Thanks 🙏🏼 I was confusing it with the £150k self assessment amount. It is £100k to £125k.
@miketyson5388
@miketyson5388 Ай бұрын
Additional rate of income tax kicks in at 125k not 150k since 2023/2024
@vthelastrun3290
@vthelastrun3290 Ай бұрын
My question is what about auto rabasing tokens the ones you get 1% daily rewards and so on, do you have to pay tax every day when you get rewards or you pay when you sell them?
@myna6680
@myna6680 Ай бұрын
Tough question. Would depend on the smart contracts and when would be deemed as you having beneficial ownership.
@vthelastrun3290
@vthelastrun3290 Ай бұрын
@@myna6680 thanks
@RevvedUpBiker
@RevvedUpBiker Ай бұрын
Couldn't the government wait until 2027? lol A change in hiking the capital gains tax will wreck business not related to crypto. A lot of businesses are working on a knifes edge, so I believe it would be foolish to hike the rate too much, if at all.
@ThePaddy48
@ThePaddy48 Ай бұрын
Not to be glib but the solution is opt out of the system completely. You will never win against tyrants.
@philipsmurthwaite9408
@philipsmurthwaite9408 Ай бұрын
Brilliant
@Mycryptospaceuk2127
@Mycryptospaceuk2127 Ай бұрын
What is the date of the new tax laws come into effect?
@suep3151
@suep3151 Ай бұрын
He said the autumn statement is 30 October. It’s all speculation at this point.
@SimonMiller-zh1mg
@SimonMiller-zh1mg Ай бұрын
Surely any increase would ave to start at the start of a new tax year can start changing stuff half way through a tax year
@Rob_Davidson82
@Rob_Davidson82 Ай бұрын
@@SimonMiller-zh1mgyes they can and have done previously. If they increase CGT significantly this time, it will also take affect from the day of the budget
@SimonMiller-zh1mg
@SimonMiller-zh1mg Ай бұрын
@@Rob_Davidson82 that’s shit hope we get a good pump in October an I may sell some alts before this budget
@suep3151
@suep3151 Ай бұрын
@@SimonMiller-zh1mg Goerge Osborne did this before with capital gains tax in his June 2010 emergency budget.
@AEgonCholakian
@AEgonCholakian Ай бұрын
Im going back to Portugal
@MrPaul79z
@MrPaul79z Ай бұрын
Can I leave my crypto in a cold wallet in GBP. Can i do that
@suep3151
@suep3151 Ай бұрын
They say 90% of people lose 90% of their cash in crypto within 90 days. Too bad if we enter a bear market in May.
@01menyou
@01menyou Ай бұрын
Just do not sell, especially btc.
@scousegreek
@scousegreek Ай бұрын
It wont be btc focused regarding cg, if cg go up it will be general, they have to be careful or people will move abroad and liquidate their btc.
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