Your GPU Bad?? This TRIPLES Your FPS!!! - ULTIMATE GUIDE to Lossless Scaling Frame Generation

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GPUs have been pretty lack-luster as of lately and frame generation has come a long way since 2022. DLSS once made it very exclusive, FSR opened it up.... now this makes it truly accessible and incredibly flexible. It is super easy to use Lossless Scaling with its 'LSFG' for frame generation AND it is compatible with pretty much any DirectX game. PLUS, this tool is not only capable of 'doubling' your FPS, but ALSO TRIPLING IT.
This is an amazing tool, but it is not without its flaws and some things you should aware of. We go over all of that in this video, along with comparing it to DLSS and FSR FG to see how it stacks up!
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0:00- State of DLSS Frame Gen
1:04- FSR 3 Frame Gen and Modding it in games
2:32- Sponsor Spot
3:53- Lossless Scaling!!!
4:40- Lossless Frame Gen is great
6:10- How to use LSFG
8:40- Using LSFG to bypass FPS caps
9:32- How DLSS and FSR FG work
10:20- AMD Fluid Motion Frames is NOT the same
15:00- How LSFG works
16:00- LSFG vs FSR 3! Visually
19:15- LSFG vs DLSS! Visually
21:00- Visual problems LSFG has
22:00- How does X3 FG LOOK????
25:25- LATENCY!
28:45- LSFG PERFORMANCE!
35:15- 7 bucks is 7 bucks 😉

[@vextakes]

This was a MONSTER project, hope it helps :) Link to the tool in the description, give it a shot! Some other things to make note of: 1) Lossless Scaling is advertised to work in DirectX games, which is a lot of games, but not all. You might be able to get it to work but it’s not guaranteed. Maybe support will expand in the future, but can’t be sure 2) if you are getting black screens try borderless window instead of full screen. That is where it is most consistent. Remember this is an external program just interpolating that it sees, so you need to give it the proper thing to look at. Just some things I didn’t mention in the video, hope that helps

[@kaisersolo76]

By the way you can get a DC barrel jack type c adapter. great in-depth video

[@nareshfree]

This also works with videos, watching 30 fps videos in 60 fps.

[@SimplCup]

have you tried using lsfg with other framegen's on? what if you can sixtuple your fps?

[@ThreatInteractive]

This technology isn't bad as long as the basic standard of real 60fps is achieved first. This makes a lot of progress for display technologies like BFI and persistence blur based issues etc. But we recently exposed blatant abusive and consumer manipulation concerning optimization in recent games that might unfortunately end up putting this software on the more cursed side as we've explained with upscalers. And it's going to be the worst with UE5: Things like Nanite, which in our documentary we referenced proof that it has much worse performance over traditional optimization and causes WORSE visual quality thanks to subpixel problems Nanite makes lightmaps or basic interactions with impossible and Lumen will be lower quality than UE's volumetric lightmaps, cause unnecessary TAA dependency, and force performance problems. With Nanite, that also means you're going to be forced to endure the performance pentenaly of virtual shadow maps. Because Epic Games has failed to properly fix TAA(we stated how in our video),devs will be forced to use TSR to fix the nanite subpixel issues which we measured to be 11 times more costly than TAA. Because of all these horrible development choices have been made regarding proper optimization, you're going to have a 30fps experience for basic clarity on hardware with MUCH more potential. We cover a lot more issues like this in our video exploring the manufactured issues with optimization in modern games. We show damning content and PROOF Digital Foundry should have brought to people's attention years ago. One of the developers of lossless scaling made a community post sharing the importance of our video for gamers.

[@raresmacovei8382]

​@@SimplCupJust like you can use FSR3 FG with AFMF (x2x2), yes, you can use FSR3 FG with LSFG x3 (so x2x3). You cannot combine FSR3 FG with AFMF and LSFG at the same time however

[@TheDonBry]

downloading fps, what a time to be alive

[@callmenoodles8955]

😂

[@saricubra2867]

I combined FSR with my CRT and created an OP combo for Counter Strike 2 on a 11 year old laptop.

[@joen4287]

@@saricubra2867 Can i do it for valorant?? can you give me the recipe please? whats CRT?

[@CBourn48223]

@@joen4287 CRT is an old timey glass picture box.

[@saricubra2867]

@@joen4287 Cathode Ray Tube monitors, way better looking and lighter than old skull bulky TVs that actually have good sound. Counter Strike 2 includes FSR, as for valorant, use lossless scaling.

[@B-max.]

Looks like the guy telling people to "download more FPS" was right all along and we were the idiots.

[@RohanSanjith]

Download more RAM

[@wobbers99]

@@RohanSanjith they tried that in the 90's. it may work now with AI Ram management.

[@kaarelpart9311]

ahead of his time

[@monkeywheel5522]

We don’t even need to download ram almost every operating system automatically repurposed a portion of your SSD to use as spare RAM when your normal one is full

[@IncognitoActivado]

Pass.

[@Hi_Im_o2]

Rx 580 has gained 3 more years xd

[@mongeeman]

I'm still chilling with my RX 570 8gb. Works really well when overclocked.

[@Hi_Im_o2]

@@mongeeman might aswell call it an Rx 580 since Rx 580s are just oc 570s sounds awesome someone's still rocking em

[@mythicalnewt7242]

hey brothers im also rocking a rx590, an oced rx 580 lmfao

[@xxtubiexx]

😂

[@DesocupadoXtremo]

Will they ever die? I had 2 of them 😅

[@MatthewSimm]

Man, can AMD just release FSR 3.1 already haha

[@DesocupadoXtremo]

Im exited for It, now that FG mods got so much easier to install will help a lot

[@elitepauper7400]

​@@DesocupadoXtremocyberpunk with frame gen working on my 7900xt Is a godsend. Shame on cd projekt red for not implementing it yet. Running tons of graphic mods with no problem

[@Shahzad12357]

​@@elitepauper7400 they are bought out by Nvidia

[@HunterTracks]

​@@elitepauper7400They've officially announced no further updates to the game, so modded FSR3 will be the only option for the foreseeable future.

[@Jakiyyyyy]

The end of this June or early July. Wait for it! 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@JACKjcs]

" 30 YR OLD dude with 10 kids, 3 wives, 4 jobs, 2 houses... " were are those dudes? because i want the recipe...

[@afz902k]

Especially with 3 wives but only 2 houses, implying 2 out of those wives are living in the same house with the dude, either having been convinced it's okay or completely oblivious to not being the only wife in that household.

[@mealot7613]

Don't worry, those have no time to game anyways.

[@kevin8798]

Yeh wtf. I was going to the comments for this one. He thinks when he's 30 he has all that. Looooool.

[@__-fi6xg]

look at your dad

[@doctorvengeance1]

come to middle east then lol

[@michaelkoerner4578]

As a 34 year old gamer, who has been on the pc since the days of doom, lemme tell you, messing with settings is this first thing i do, then i head kver to the nexus to start breaking shit

[@G_O_A_T__W.B]

What ?

[@MersonEdits]

@@G_O_A_T__W.B hes the goat basically

[@G_O_A_T__W.B]

@@MersonEdits ohh ok 🗿🙌🏻

[@aboomination897]

but do you have 10 kids, 4 jobs, 3 wifes and 2 houses, tho

[@michaelkoerner4578]

@@aboomination897 2nd wife. God knows how many kids.

[@ravenger2445]

Fun Fact: You can use a 2nd GPU to generate frames alongside your main GPU being used for render, and it completely negates the performance hit from LSFG.

[@dexzero]

could you elaborate? can you use an integrated gpu to generate and a discrete gpu to render?

[@AzariusR]

I think it just means you can connect an EGPU thats connected with Thunderbolt for example and it will be solely doing the Frame Gen while your main GPU in your system be rendering the native game.

[@anhnguyentuan8035]

​@@dexzeroit can if your igpu is strong enough, and sadly no igpu is strong enough for that, im using the 680m(the second strongest igpu) to do lsfg for helldivers 2 at 1440p, if im use my 3070 it will go to 165fps, but use my igpu it cant handle it and go down to 80-90fps

[@anhnguyentuan8035]

​@@dexzeroso you can use an egpu to do it for sure, igpu can work in some situation

[@Lurch-Bot]

I'm gonna try it. Been running Forza Horizon 4 at 1440p on a GTX 670 with both 2x scaling and 2x frame gen (actual render is 720p30 Low). Will try adding my 560Ti 448 to the mix and see if I can turn the settings up a bit, lol. The octagonal round headlights are hilarious when everything else looks close to native 1440p. Just like playing LA Noire at a native 1440p.

[@SongOfLife_]

10 kids 3 wives and 2 houses Lil bro literally called me out

[@Trazer_-]

Damn!

[@WolfChen]

Happy that lossless scaling is getting more attention rn

It’s because of their May update. Before that, their frame gen was unusable.

[@WolfChen]

absolutely right

[@iireaper420ii6]

fr bro, I play 2-3 games with it and it's much better.

[@adolfo777nica]

​@@iireaper420ii6Don't say fr

[@JerryNeddler]

It works on Asus ally go

[@DesocupadoXtremo]

Another insane funcionality of this app, is its hability to frame gen cloud games, i discovered it trying Sea of Thieves on Xcloud cause i didn't wanted to wait for the download, and 1080p60 was to low, so i enabled and god, running a game on another machine, in another resolution with another fps, felt like a native 1440p120 game, technology really moves fast. Yesterday i read a coment of a guy that streams his PS5 playing Bloodborne to his Pc and runs it at 60fps with LS 😅 men is a genius

[@youravghuman5231]

FG just insert frame that sent to your monitor. You can do this to all types of animations. Even powerpoint animations will look 2x smoother

[@crisppzanuff4398]

Yap yt videos and streams even on discord can be seen with this

[@lightthelast5416]

I play Zelda Tears of the Kingdom in the Nintendo Switch and Lossless Scaling by using a capture card

[@DesocupadoXtremo]

@@lightthelast5416 thats even better for latency, witch capture card you got?

[@crisppzanuff2868]

​@@lightthelast5416damn that never crossed my mind imma tell my friends that play on playstation and use capture cards that

[@Carroll860]

I've used Lossless Scaling for about 5 months now. Amazing software.

[@Liquid208]

agreed

[@astreakaito5625]

I've been using it to framegen some games locked at 25fps and it still works ok. It's absolutely wild.

[@alastor8091]

Cute pfp.

[@haruyanto8085]

​@@alastor8091bro is down baaaaaaaaad

how do u hadle the latency

[@softcocoa7794]

do you even have a gaming graphics card..

[@Cooler-wh4rg]

nah 25fps is unplayable its so much latency at least in most games

[@edalecu]

for me is a blessing in the heavily CPU bound games or mods (eg. with a lot of npcs, explosions, etc at the same time in the scene). And kind of unexpected, but I'm really glad it works with KZbin video. To boost 25 or 30 fps video to double or triple is a blessing for the eyes :)

[@astreakaito5625]

You can also use RTSS to inject Reflex to minimize the input lag.

[@GamingArtifice]

How tho?

[@GeTtBoDied]

@@GamingArtificethankfully it's pretty easy once you know where to look 1. launch rivatuner statistics server, or RTSS for short if anyone doesn't know, and click add on the bottom left 2. find your game exe and add it to the list 3. select your game exe in the list and click setup near the bottom middle 4. in the General tab scroll down to the section titled "Compatibility properties" 5. tick off "Enable framerate limiter" and in the drop down menu select NVIDIA reflex

[@mr.rodion7810]

Into lossless scaling, game, or both?

[@julians.8257]

I need a tutorial on this xD

[@GeTtBoDied]

I tried posting this comment once already but it doesn't seem to be here? but I'll try again now 1. launch rivatuner statistics server, or RTSS for short if anyone doesn't know, and click add on the bottom left 2. find your game exe and add it to the list 3. select your game exe in the list and click setup near the bottom middle 4. in the General tab scroll down to the section titled "Compatibility properties" 5. turn on "Enable framerate limiter" and in the drop down menu select NVIDIA reflex

[@dewrito2325]

You described everything so perfectly, i was trying to explain it to my roommates very poorly, but you helped me get a real understanding of the technology and side effects of using it. Thanks a lot! I use it on my 2060 for a few games but i only recommend it if you're already over 60 FPS

[@HunterTracks]

Another cool thing about this is that you can run it on the iGPU, giving your main GPU essentially a free performance boost.

[@vextakes]

Wait, u can do that?

[@haruyanto8085]

The implications of that is massive

[@HunterTracks]

@@vextakes Yup, just scroll down to "Preferred GPU" and select the iGPU, it will run both upscaling and FG there. The only real issue is making sure your iGPU is strong enough to deliver all the frames, but otherwise I haven't noticed any issues.

[@HunterTracks]

@@vextakes Oh, also, if you allow it to autostart with your PC in the settings, Steam can't detect that it's running, allowing you to use it on multiple PCs simultaneously.

[@uddiptamani6560]

Yes that's very true I'm using igpu for lsfg and 100% main gpu usage to the game works like a champ

[@techmist8034]

The only close to complete review of the LS. Great video :)

[@Aeondrifter]

Latency section is effort pilled. I haven't seen anyone else do this in a lossless scaling video. Subbed!

[@indiancrispyboii704]

bro I can download FPS now :D

[@Ghost-pb4ts]

If gpu is 90-100% use Then lossless scaling isn't good either This app also use gpu to draw frames And if gpu is fully utilized by games Then this app doesn't make much difference

[@LiljamezZz]

5:39 lowkey I don't think anyone REALLY hates frame gen but a lot of us hate how games are built AROUND frame gen

[@iceangelx22]

I do. It adds stupid amounts of input lag and creates artifacts. Not worth it at all

[@Heartsbane055]

​@@iceangelx22 it is worth it.

[@zultriova89]

​@@Heartsbane055 no, its not.. its should be optional.. developer should target higher fps with optimization first.

[@ramonj7037]

Hey Man I really like the way you explained this Great Job!! Keep it up Bro

[@Alex-nk8bw]

Small developer, been around for years with image upscaling. But frame generation is a huge thing. They're doing such a great job, it's working mindblowingly well.

[@lucaoru502]

People don't hate framegeneration, people hate Nvidia's framegeneration, because they sold it as if it could only work on the RTX4000 and that their graphics (significantly more expensive) were better than the RTX 3000 and AMD's because the "fake frames" mean better performance

[@JathraDH]

No I just hate frame generation period, don't presume to speak for everyone.

[@electricant55]

it literally can only work on the 4000 series, are you high

[@Dark-qx8rk]

@@electricant55 Because Nvidia chose to lock it to their latest gen only. There is no reason it could not work on older cards as proven by AMD.

[@electricant55]

@@Dark-qx8rk AMD uses a completely different technology and you can't even use their framegen without FSR upscaling

[@MehulMewal]

​@@electricant55we can.

[@astreakaito5625]

About LSFG performances; here's some tips: LSFG's framegen works inside the screen res of your monitor, so the less pixel your borderless fullscreen has, the less processing it's gonna take to function. So if you use LSFG at 4K, be careful, I'd recommend using a scaling resolution instead (Image Scaling: On, for nvdia drivers) or use LSFG's built in image scaler function on a small borderless windows. If you use the game's resolution scale instead or even dlss/fsr performance at 4K, LSFG won't actually recognize the lower resolution this way, for the app it's still a 4K image it has to interpolate and that's too much work. So make sure to manually get your screen resolution itself or at least the game window resolution itself under control.

[@electricant55]

But their upscaling looks horrible compared to DLSS or even FSR 2 so it's absolutely not worth it

@@electricant55I second this. I play in 4k with no problem

[@Jakiyyyyy]

Not really though. LS1 and NIS looks great. Just emptied the sharpness slider. Have you tried yourself or just making assumptions? 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@youravghuman5231]

Imo LSFG is for old gpu. If you already use 4k monitor, that means you must be using rtx or rx series. Then there's no point using LSFG rather than using dlss and fsr, because LSFG is far more horrible than dlss and fsr due to LSFG is just AI'ing your graphics post processing instead of baked into the process itself.

[@electricant55]

@@youravghuman5231 you know 4k monitors existed before RTX cards right? what a moronic statement

[@Johnny31323]

A theory to how Lossless Scaling Works: When you start the frame generation for a certain DXGI layered Window, Lossless scaling takes 18-22 frames off of the Game, intentionally, so that it can train on previous frames better, the frames that have been taken, translate to lossless scaling having more priority to make frames in-between 2 real frames. As for the input lag, the principle here is just as it was said, Lossless Scaling again: uses Previous Frames and train on them, to predict the next frame when the input get's sent. It could be also that the next frame depending on the input, disables itself on the first contact with the key. Be it a Left click, As soon as you press Left click or any button of that sort, the next frame (WILL NOT) be frame generated, and for a slight millisecond, Lossless scaling will disable itself to prioritize your input rather than generating a frame. After your input gets sent to the PC, (then) and only then would loss less scaling continue generating frames. That's my theory to why it's so good.

[@happybuggy1582]

I noticed the raw frames dropped about 10-20fps once it on

[@BennyWest1992]

I haven’t even looked at your video yet, but I just saw your thumbnail and did notice the 44 fps to 140FPS in the thumbnail and that’s literally how my laptop performed after i overclocked it with the new improved Nvidia app! I have a HP pavilion 15 gaming laptop with a RTX 3050 16 ram and 4 vram and now after I overclocked it it can smoothly handle 1080p gaming with all the high settings turned on with a 150fps cap without any problem!

[@nov3316]

there's VRR support down in the legacy sub-menu and it works well for me, dont need to cap framerates or anything. it just works!

[@surfer8438]

it says "this option no longer activates VRR and is deprecated" when hovering over it.

[@beasttitan8747]

Finally a reasonable video that all gamers need worldwide.

[@nateo200]

Great video man. Ill have to check this tool out for sure.

[@ronniehadad6854]

Great video dude!

[@Sniperx9347]

this is especially useful for modding old games like skyrim where you can lock your fps at whatever you want with enb or display tweaks so you can get more mods in without worrying about fps loss

[@incrediLance]

It is actually pretty good, but you need to mention that it comes with a performance cost - you need around 20% headroom of GPU usage, so you better find a setting where your GPU load is around 70-80% so Lossless Scaling doesn't run into a bottleneck. Because when it does it the experience is similar to the 2006 SLI-Microstutters

[@mikedonalds]

This is covered at 30:41 and onwards.

[@DesocupadoXtremo]

Also depends on your monitor, if LS generates more frames them your refresh rate can show it will not push it, i play Hogwarts Legacy at 80fps in a 165hz monitor, with frame gen it jumps to 150fps with 100% GPU utilization and no stutters

[@BenState]

@@DesocupadoXtremo fail

[@imAgentR]

Well, this is BYU would scale in the lossless scaling app and then you would implement it if you were really concerned about the headroom more so than cutting back settings

[@jujuu1339]

There is a performance mode, but looks slightly worse. If you have an extra GPU, you can run LSFG on it.

[@puteraryu4390]

Your review and explanation are beyond comprehensive! i clicked subscribe and like already!

[@Liquid208]

SAME

[@thedutchfisherman7078]

Awesome video!! 👍👍 Hopefully it will work on the Steam Deck soon too.

[@TheOneTheOnlyGodly]

Lossless Scaling is finally getting attention! I've been using this for a while, not so much recently because I went from a Laptop with a GTX 1650 Max-Q to a desktop with a 4070Ti but when I was on that laptop, it worked wonders.

[@Liquid208]

yessir 😀

[@robbrg246]

It has anime one because the upscaling and frame gen works on videos on your computer and in your browser as well

[@bernardshrevejr.]

Great Job in highlighting the Ugreen Nexode X 160W Charger product with actual benefit video examples.... As always great video content too - and no I am not connect in anyway (at this time) for Ugreen products.

[@Quick420ful]

Helpful video man, thanks.

[@deus_nsf]

The best coverage of this on the entire internet, unironically.

[@aaarrrooo]

For now... I think it's going to explode soon.

[@deus_nsf]

@@aaarrrooo hope so!

[@callmealex1247]

This is very safe to use online as well, as it does not interact with the game at all or anything. It records it and streams it to you.

[@HeadBearRS]

Maboy makes the Best comparisons, thanks a lot.

[@AlexHusTech]

*This has revived so many old GPUs!*

[@RaDeCaL_Gaming]

I tried this application with my GTX 1080 and i was blown away. It's amazing.

[@astreakaito5625]

Incredible app, the x3 mode has framepacing issues for me but I know that'll be fixed eventually just like it did for x2 mode!

[@austinjohnson5723]

What's truely eye-opening is how seamlessly it works with emulation. Being able to play ps2 or ps3 games with a capped 60fps at an interpolated 120fps is downright magical. Oh, and for the real ones, it even works with Battle for Middle Earth 2

[@GregoryShtevensh]

I got a pretty good gpu already. Will it help in that case? Or more for lower end parts?

[@Jaakeup]

Very in depth video well done! I can confirm on my MSI GTX 1080, I can finally play Helldivers 2 at 144 fps on my 144hz monitor for the first time. I know my system can run this game it's just that it's so poorly optimized that it can drop to barely 30fps on high difficulties. Still gotta try it in level 9 difficulty but I'll have results on that tomorrow

[@xlr555usa]

Is the Lossless Scaling app open source? Can I extract it and use it anywhere? We need an open source version that we can tinker with.

[@arkgaharandan5881]

i think the best use of this technology is playing games like new vegas, heavily modded the fps will collapse, but with this if the fps collapses you turn on frame gen and you can keep going.

[@christophermullins7163]

It's good day when vex uploads. Let's go!!

[@Ryuusei17]

helped a lot dude, now i can finally play phase 2 radahn without lag :D

[@gabriell5714]

You can also use this on KZbin videos. 180FPS on a 60FPS video is just visually stunning.

[@ADeeSHUPA]

あっぷ

[@xestrix420]

genius

[@darrenjk5438]

MSFS runs great now on my 6950XT with settings almost maxed out on 1440p with FSR Balanced (FSR sharpness to Max). Capped the framerate to 40 with X3.

[@Hexzeed]

been asking for a video for this since LSFG 1.0 about time we got this covered in a wider scale

[@Liquid208]

well, you finally got it

[@charlesearl4321]

One of the things that tick me off about the PC Gaming community is the fact that AMD makes features free for gamers but the public turns their back on them. They smashed the 4 core barrier for us all and people quickly forget. They introduce Freesync for all so we did not have to pay hundreds extra for a PROPRIETARY chips in monitors for Gsync tech forcing everyone into an nVidia GPU. Monitors got so much cheaper for variable refresh. Now they Open Source something for everyone again (many time previously). We get framegen for all. People will still pull up a chair to suckle at the teets of nVidia. I hope AMD says F it and pulls out of GPU's and nVidia doubles their prices AGAIN. We all deserve it. LOL

[@TransoceanicOutreach]

You seem to be forgetting that it was nVidia that brought all these technologies to massmarket in the first place, and that their solutions are always better than AMDs 'free' versions. That's why people buy nvidia, because they are first and better.

[@mfrunyan]

really high quality content here

[@Liquid208]

agreed 👍

[@bamboostick5]

Crazy how you can do upscaling and frame interpolation in any game using this. I can now play many games at 4k 120fps on my tv using this tool.

[@AyzekUorren]

It can work with any old game as well. Even some games where the engine cannot have 60+ fps. Remember to set the correct background fps for your game because when it's working, your game works as if in the background.

[@99iner]

My IGPU still has some hope😭

[@Shahzad12357]

Time to download it from chrome for free boys🗣️🗣️💣💣

[@BenCH417]

Tip : you can use LSFG on any application such as youtube video or mediaplayer,u can watch movie at 48 fps,after awhile you will feel 24 fps so choppy.

[@nonbshd]

how ?

[@BenCH417]

@@nonbshd just scale and go back to the app u want to FG

[@Zephhi]

yeah but why would you ever watch stuff at high framerates that's so stupid

[@BenCH417]

@@Zephhi Yeah,its very stupid,but messing around with the setting is fun and the generated movie frame looks quite good.

[@Paulie8K]

I've been using this program for a few weeks on both my RTX 3080 Rig and my ROG Ally and it's a game changer. Getting the settings dialed in will vary per system and the higher base framerate you are working with, the better the end results. I also just updated my CPU from a 3700X to a 5700X3D so my 3080 rig combined with LS pretty much should hold me down another year or two before I have to upgrade.

[@Code_012]

it works fine on RX590 and 60 hz monitor. i cant get a fix 60 fps in alot of games so i capped my fps to 30 and i used 2x mode the result is super good and smooth i like it so much. i wanna test 3x on my old 15 year old laptop so yeah xD Edit : didn't work on my old laptop mybe its too old idk

[@dyris2594]

Sadly it didn't work for me in cyberpunk but it worked surprisingly well in snowrunner, can't wait to try it out in Helldivers and see what it can do!

[@lnterpolatedgaming]

Make sure to choose Window Borderless because this software doesn't work with Fullscreen mode

[@guesschannel341]

helldiver 2 work fine with my slow rx6600 8gb at 1440p mixed settings... got 80fps

[@dyris2594]

@@lnterpolatedgaming alright I'll try that

[@theandroids]

​@@dyris2594did it work?

[@wisj3031]

you somehow cycle the same games that i play. impressive lol

[@orpheus3342]

seeing a lot of comments saying that you need some gpu headroom to use this; I'm running DayZ from 80-110fps (uncapped) on my 4070 laptop, if I get this lossless framegen tool, and cap my fps to say, 60, that will lower the gpu usage meaning I can take advantage of framegen, yes?

[@Bleronii]

Yes

[@GoldenDoom]

I've been using lossless for a while, and it's honestly a game changer of how effective it is.

[@WizzDude]

this is such a good video and it partially convinced me to buy lossless scaling for myself, but I wish you would turn down your mic gain and compression

[@troaht]

if you want to get the full 165 fps on your monitor, try using a display port instead of an hdmi port. For some odd reason, some monitors will only put out 120 fps on a 165 fps monitor with hdmi.

[@Liquid208]

great tip, i'd repost this at the top for others if i were you

[@Cooler-wh4rg]

its 165hz monitor not fps and also its because most monitors don't have a hdmi 2.1 port so they are capped at 144 or 120

[@GameplayTubeYT]

LLS becoming popular on Handheld PC

[@LuminousSpace]

im so happy, really happy that i can use this in handheld and amd gpu it is just so amazing

[@gurnery4219]

Dying for some form of native steamOS implementation. Going from 40 to 60 on steam deck would be a game changer.

[@Psychooom]

this is so huge for games like elden ring any souls game, emulated game or console ports capped at 60 fps this software is a god send

[@surfx4804]

Been using LS for ages, it is always improving. I especially use it with my laptop+egpu, upscaling and FG lets me play AAA games that otherwise would be a no go. And I can run LS on the iGPU while the game runs on the eGPU.

[@badlicious]

Awesome project/job, awesome VoD! I have a couple of questions though. 1.Can it be used in multiplayer games that use anti cheat programs? 2.Can it be used simultaneously with AMD AFMF, so the GPU can run cooler, drawing less power from the wall, but at higher FPS than it'd be outputting without using it?

[@fractalarbitrage]

Just got it because its 7 bucks and if you look at these yotube sheets we pay like 2 bucks a frame so if it gets us 3 frames its break even. On warzone 1440p I'm going from 120 to 190 FPS. Don't feel mouse lag/drag feels just as snappy. Not sure what is the hot key or if its working? Is that it it's magic!?!?

[@bygltch105]

yo, aint it bannable on wz?

[@Zephhi]

There is actually slight input lag with it turned on. Refuse to use it in certain games with fast camera movement (with mouse) because it is a bit unresponsive

[@Paelmoon]

I see a lot of people in the steam forums and on their discord having issues getting it to work.

[@electricant55]

Yeah it's beta software at best, can't count the number of times it crashed my GPU driver

[@adrianooo7990]

Thank's for your video. It's amazing! Be aware for games like the last of us part 1 with grain film effect option, it's better to disable this option.

[@liutaurasleonavicius2680]

damn that's impressive, seems like Lossless Scaling is getting better and better on each update man... I wish there was a way to use this program on Linux

[@testerpt5]

it works with the 1080 Ti

[@Shahzad12357]

It works with every gpu

[@DesocupadoXtremo]

I think Lossless Scaling is a god send, cause it works on the hardest game to run to this day, Minecraft

[@xlr555usa]

I'm revisiting Starfield (because I enjoy pain) on my i513600K and an assortment of Intel Arc GPUs. I'm testing XeSS at Balanced and Ultra Quality and it is decent. I'm going to look for an open source version of Lossless Scaling that I can hack. I'm also testing XeSS with my i5/Arc setup in Hellblade 2 and its been good. At what version of FSR did AMD start using AI / Machine Learning? Was it FSR 3.1?

[@micksterminator3]

Was thinking of side grading from a 1660ti to rtx 2060. Not really worth it in this case. My new 32" 1440p 165 hz monitor was suffocating it lol. Got an 18" CRT monitor too and it's been fun playing games at 1024x768 100hz. So buttery without stutter. Also got a 40" led tv 1080p 60hz that'll let it breathe a bit. Ty for sharing

[@ionelhutanu4661]

I am using this also for movies . Game changer .

[@christophermullins7163]

Bro.. movie changer***

[@saricubra2867]

My CRT is the one to blame, if it's locked to 60Hz, anything below 60fps will destroy your eyes, specially movies.

[@el_gabron]

why do you use this for movies im confused

[@raresmacovei8382]

​@@el_gabronBecause you can watch KZbin in 180 fps for 60 fps videos or 90 fps or 30 fps videos. Same goes for movies. Because it's COOL

[@captainthunderbolt7541]

This would likely be even better for watching anime, since a lot of scenes are animated at around 10-15 frames per second!

[@fadedlight8596]

My rtx 2080 super is now a 40 series 🎉🎉😂

[@Liquid208]

yes lmao

[@S-Fish-yt3ib]

20:56 Seems to loose the Geometric base part before the Graphics/Rendering ... YOUR VIDEOS ARE TOP SHELF, Soon as I saw you I thought this Guy is funny and Highly intuitive, info is banging,,,,,,,,,,,, BUT the way you SLOWED DOWN the recording to show was a GREAT touch, Top Man, Top Show, Top info, Job Done !!!!!!!!!! My cousin stole the charger,,,,,,,,,, xxxxx

[@IIArdynIl]

So de number in the left in the corner if screes is reffered to the fps of the game and the number in his right is the buffed fps generated by losslesss scaling??

[@blondegirl7240]

I tried it in Elden Ring, Forza 5, it works amazingly I love it :)

[@Thomas_Angelo]

My 3060 thanks you

[@mobarakjama5570]

Mine as well 😜

[@TerrorPhantasm]

It just works. Coolest buy in a while

[@DeadlyHeartss]

its so much more noticeable on games like animal crossing it felt really bump and laggy but as soon as i turned it on i finally got the 60 fps the game needed

[@kennickel878]

Anime from back in the day (Cowboy Bebop, Dragonball) was often 440p. While TVs have built in upscaling it was designed to run on a potato and often delivers a pixellated nightmare. Lossless scaling not only runs better algorithms on more powerful hardware...it allows for selection of algorithms and resolutions. This can help in old movies and TV series that haven't recieved a remaster as well.

[@raresmacovei8382]

Nvidia marketing: DLSS3 gives speedups of 4x or even more (lmfao) Real life: DLSS Performance + DLSS3 Frame Gen: MAYBE a 85% boost (that's LESS than 2x) AMD FSR3 Frame Gen: 80-100% boost from Frame Gen alone Adding FSR3 Performance upscaling on top: I've seen 280% performance boost (3.8x boost). Top kek

[@aleksandry.7213]

I’ve heard while that may be true, nvidia still has the better upscaler in term so visual quality at least the latest version of dlss, that is a wild claim tho

[@G_O_A_T__W.B]

That's a complete massacre of graphics tho 😂

[@electricant55]

you should get your GPU checked

[@thenonexistinghero]

@@aleksandry.7213 Nvidia's upscalers are way better, there's no comparison. AMD's versions for everyone are okay, but the price of it is that it just isn't quite on the same level. This FSR frame generation boosts performance with frames that aren't anywhere near the quality of the original. Might as well turn down the resolution and settings instead.

[@AwankO]

I may have to try this app in the video.

[@0M0rty]

Probably the best lossless scaling video I've seen, nice job. I like Lossless scaling's approach to disoccluded areas much better than AMD's. Lossless scaling does the weird blurring, while AMD wants to maintain sharpness at all cost. The issue is, when FSR gets it wrong, the sharp object stands out so much more in motion than bluriness, it literally screams for attention, while you may not notice lossless scaling blur as much.

[@TheTaurus104]

AMD has announced on X a time ago that with a next Driver Update it comes a User Option to disable "dynamically disabling frame generation during fast visual motion to preserve Image Quality". Next is that nobody moves a mouse so unrealistic und fast as you in the Video. And next AFMF is not recommend for Faced Paced Game. Same as all FrameGens. Your Latency Slow Motion Comparsion are useless. If you really want to objectively compare latencies, please use some hardware tools or skip latency tests altogether. Likewise, you didn't compare the frame times between DLSS, FSR, AFMF FG and LSFG. If you had done that, you would have seen that LSFG has significantly worse frame times and latencies than the other solutions because LSFG can only be used in windowed mode of games. Lets see when Anti-Lag 2.0 becomes more widespread and you can combine it with AFMF/FSR3 what LSFG will look like. It's a good tool but for what it can do it's completely overhyped compared to the other solutions.

[@ishiddddd4783]

and not a single of those things with afmf are out yet, and there is no set date for them either, besides still being limited to DX11 and DX12 unless you mod it. AL2 is on a single game, without mentioning native FSR3 support still is on diapers, expecting anything from amd to be widespread and be an easy solution is just a big spoon of cope. And lastly, afmf will disable itself with either fast camera motion, or constant small camera movements, so ignoring the frametime jumps when it disables itself, it is still realistically garbage until they actually add the option to disable it from turning off.

[@takingthethingyabove]

Why did I click this knowing damn well I have 4090 in my system

[@beachslap7359]

To leave a comment about owning 4090

[@UnthinkingHead]

Before with my gtx 660, i can play the Next 3 years of games in ultra or high 1080 Now: I have a rtx 4090 im having 140 FPS in 4k ultra... Next year, this Game makes 40 FPS in medium 4k ;_; why world, why

[@lilpain1997]

Because you wanted to tell everyone you own a 4090 to show off.

[@AbbasDalal1000]

Buying a 4090 only to comment on videos to make everyone know of your gpu

[@mongeeman]

Any excuse, huh?

[@PEMBYSGAMINGWORLD]

I have been trying to set this up to play RPCS3 games, but with DXGI I am limited to OBS & Mirillis Action because Shadow play only supports WGC which is not as good. Both MA & OBS drop frames when recording, no matter how i optimize the recording settings. Shadow play is the better recorder in terms of frame loss but WGC is crap in comparison with DXGI. I am enjoying FPS smoothness without being able to capture it like i want to. My monitor is 60hz which may be playing it's part with recording with OBS & MA.

[@ztuber7763]

if you have a 240 oled but the game's average is around 100 fps, should you lower the monitor's refresh rate to 120 so it's closer or does it not matter?

[@ZappthedTV]

Have you considered that it needs to have room for GPU utilization before using different frame generation to be more effective? It could be the cause of higher latency and artifacts.

[@esagheer]

This is also good for bad optimized games. I have been on a mission to enhance my play through of Kingdom Come Deliverance for a few days and just today my research led me to this tool which I bought right away. I watched your video after I bought it lol The fact that I have a 4080 Super and can't run a game from 2018 on 4k Ultra with decent fps was bothering me. Initial testing showed good results if I start at 1440 Ultra. I am getting much higher fps. Will keep playing around with the settings until I find the sweet spot.