Your Metaphor Refantazio hot takes are pain incarnate

[@PixelPikmin]

Honestly I respect everyone’s opinions on Metaphor bc they’re just that, subjective opinions. Now when someone says “Metaphor is objectively the worst game known to mankind🤓” then I throw hands

[@Sephirothkingdom782]

It's mainly people on twitter those takes are so obnoxious like have you ever played another game in your life

[@Galaxy_123]

Am gonna give leniency to metaphor for the no va in the link quest because of 2 things this game was in development before p3r and they did not thought voicing the links and the va strike

[@lulu_TheWitchBoy]

Hm that’s true… but it’s probably because the budget went towards the animated scenes.

[@phillemon7664]

When people say the OST is mid I just think they never played SMT Strange Journey. If you have you have Stockholm Syndromed yourself into believing that is a peak OST and thus when you play Metaphor you realize how much Meguro has improved as a composer and then you find yourself constantly smiling when each piece plays in their fitting moments. Formidable Foe, Louis' theme, You Face Louis Guiabern, Louis Quarters Theme, Warriors in Arms, Warriors in Valour, Verge of Life and Death, Rival Candidates, Prelude to a Heroic Tale, Traversing The Wastes, Hero's Awakening, Akademia's theme (looked it up is called Ode To Heroes), Grand Trad theme, The Cathedral theme, Martira's theme, Giant Sandworm's Nest, Virga Island's theme, Dragongrace dungeon's theme (yes I'm an EO guy), Melancholy Star, Arrow of Radiance, Requiem For A Hero (emotional piano song that was playing everywhere in the Opera House Section), That early mine theme, Gauntlet runner theme 1 and 2 all clear the Strange Journey OST yet that is considered a legendary Megaten OST. Well, I do but why is the Metaphor OST mid when it's so stacked? DDS1's OST has less hits than this OST in my opinion and I love that. DDS2's OST is pretty on par. SMTV:V just has a better OST than any other Shin Megami Tensei game though so if anyone were to bring that up then I would have to agree that that clears.

[@abaddon_9941]

People played too much persona, and from what I see complaints its just fact its not persona ngl (i really liked it tho)

[@TheCreed1217]

Also sometimes less is more, it doesn’t need 50 billion battle themes like smt games do, although the super bosses could’ve had their own unique ones, that’s my only nitpick

[@lulu_TheWitchBoy]

Omg yes I love giant sandworms nest! Someone said that it’s just a generic dungeon music, but no it isn’t! You’re lead to believe Heismay terrible criminal, but once you go to his hideout you hear that music, it’s sad, almost like someone is mourning, it’s such an emotional song. It’s more than just a dungeon music.

[@TheRealMisoSoup]

7:27 Coldest take I’ve ever seen🤷

[@northstar6920]

The lack of a Eupha or Junah romance route disappointed me severely...

[@TheJaredPunch]

I personally just want Atlus to stick with one love interest for the main character, or just don’t have one at all. If anything, the lack of a “romance” route is precisely one of the biggest reasons why I love Eupha and her dynamic with Will.

[@Sephirothkingdom782]

@@TheJaredPunch Yea like they got close in p4 with rise I just wish they made it obvious for the other games too Like I'd say kasumi in p5 but she's a dlc character

[@TheJaredPunch]

@@Sephirothkingdom782 my problem with Rise is simple, just because Rise is flirtatious with Yu outright, doesn’t mean he’ll automatically reciprocate it. You can say that for any other girl, but I mainly say it for Rise because of Yu’s (lack of) reaction to it from what I have seen in content other than the P4(G).

[@Sephirothkingdom782]

@@TheJaredPunch yea that’s why I said close. I feel like they do kinda push it way more than every other ship in the story especially cuz I’m pretty sure the manga does yu x rise (could be wrong). For the other games it’s never really made clear and none of the characters really seem interested in the MC whereas atleast rise is very straightforward and has a clear crush on the protagonist.

[@TheJaredPunch]

My hot take: People need to stop wishing that Battlin was a follower. I love the guy as much as the last, but I think people miss the point of why he became a likable character in the first place. 1:09 as much as I personally love the music, I don’t necessarily dislike this take. Out of all of the Game Awards Metaphor could have won, I don’t think the Best OST awards was it; ESPECIALLY not to FF7 Rebirth. That being said, my favorite themes in this game are mostly done my Maiko Katagiri; who performed in Wings of Freedom, alongside the chief played Traversing the Waste, and Castle of Dread. 2:11 The side dungeons are alright. I do agree that it is one of the games weaker areas. But it’s not something that bothers me in particular. If we talking about the main story dungeons, it would be a different story. 3:58 Putting the talk about Catherina aside. This is in fact, my greatest complaint with Metaphor, which I wish will be fixed if we get a rerelease of this game. Persona 3 Reload’s greatest strength IMO was allowing voice acting in the Social Links. It help made the Links feel alive. Sadly, I think the money that went into P3 The Answer (which also didn’t have voice acting in its down time content) stripped any chance of these characters being voiced acted in their respective side stories. 4:16 Over Basilio? I don’t think so. I’m personally thought Basilio’s character was way better. Especially with his story with Basilio. I’m personally biased because Basilio is one of my favorite characters in the game. And his Awakening scene was so well built up, having Catherina being the Paripus representative instead would have felt less earned IMO. 5:54 Really? Another Persona comparison takes? Look, among the many things you can compare Persona to Metaphor, I don’t think it’s fair to compare Joker and Will at all. Yes, they go through their respective hardships, but how it’s expressed is completely different. Joker started off with a criminal record because he tried to do the right thing. Will is hated because of his tribe and his status as Prince. 7:26 moving right along… 8:22 from what I have seen, and from my experience, Basilio and Eupha actually don’t suffer from being late party members as much as I feel they should. Late party members are natural thing video games anyways. But it’s context to Persona, Eupha plays a direct role in the arc after she joins and gets plenty of character moments after she joins. Though I do understand the complaint. But Basilio was introduced to us as early as the start of Heismay’s arc. And we see him develop in the Virga Island arc even before he joins. Combined with the fact that Basilio’s time with the team before officially joining helps make me like Heismay more, there is a lot to be said about when and how a party member should be introduced. But I’d say that, even if this has been a running Persona joke, that Basilio doesn’t suffer from the late character syndrome as much as Haru does. Because it’s easy to make Basilio a powerhouse once you get the chance to train him. 12:11 I look forward to giving my hot take on Rella and the Mage Academy when I get the chance. But I don’t think building up Rella’s death was the point of Rella’s death (if that makes sense). This entire game up to the Altabury Arc has been about these characters trying to kill Louis under the mistaken belief that he cursed the Prince. It’s not until the characters get Drakodios, a weapon that can Pierce the King’s Royal Magic, that they begin their plans to kill Louis. That IMO, is the real buildup. And looking back, now knowing Rella was responsible for the Prince’s curse, there was plenty of foreshadowing hinting at it. My hot take is that you can’t treat Rella’s death as a separate thing from the fact of why everyone was trying to kill Louis in the first place. That being said, I didn’t really feel for Rella as much as I could have, so I do slightly see the point. But still. 13:16 The final dungeon is really just one last chance to give the characters a chance to shine and show how far they’ve come. It’s also fun to destroy a human enemy that you had a hard time beating at first with ease (cough cough Homo Cargo).

[@UnknownJudgment]

I for one thought your reaction to the Strohl take was incredibly relatable.

[@admontblanc]

Eupha does suffer more because you have to farm the talismans for her, and level up her bond so she gets exp at the same rates. However, you can always teach her other jobs/archetypes that aren't locked by unique mechanics, and also, if you grind it all properly on your first run, the issue goes away in following playthroughs.

[@TheJaredPunch]

Plus, once you get Royal Summoner, she doesn’t suffer from the same problems the other Summoner classes do.

[@admontblanc]

@TheJaredPunch true, however it's also true that the previous forms have more utility when complete, which just stresses that you only really enjoy Summoner's true potential in a NG+, and because of how the system is implemented you only get to use it for a limited time since you still need to unlock and lvl up each bond, every playthrough in order to use them, even if you had already maxed them out.

[@TheJaredPunch]

@ I was personally able to get most of the Summoner Skills out of the way, so even if I get where the complaints are coming from, I worked my way around it.

[@admontblanc]

@TheJaredPunch I'm not really complaining, in fact the Devs made sure Eupha was useful right off the bat, but it is true that for the end game she falls of a little since other characters are better positioned for end game content. You can still beat the game on the first playthrough using her as long as you cater your build and comp to accommodate her, there's no writing set in stone that you need Basilio or Strohl for DPS, you can just as well go with Eupha and Will. You can also give Eupha the buffer/debuffer role, which most people give to Junah, if you have the Mag to spend on that. With enough grinding your team comp becomes nearly irrelevant anyway, but the truth still remains that using any of the later game party members is more relaxed and fun in a second playthrough if you unlocked everything already since you can just fully customise and have fun then.

[@AuthorJohnADouglas]

Oh you want a hot take? Louise did nothing wrong

[@mreverything7056]

Let’s see who this really is! *unmasks* “I want to be a sexy fish-legs monster.”

[@synthesun]

Being honest I avoided the whole Basillo amd Eupha under power thing because everytime I got a new member they were higher than my group. Like Junah was 3 levels higher and Basillo was the 2nd highest and clutched for me with dragons and Rella

[@KentaroYuuki]

I downloaded it just today, it is really fun so far I just wished it had more gameplay than anime scenes but either way it's fine The concept of fantasy world having their own fantasy about our real world was nice too I keep on thinking of living in fantasy world but never thought if fantasy world people want to live in our world

[@synthesun]

The joker take I believe they're talking about the 2nd one which I haven't seen because the first is very different but even it isn't. Your point still stands. Bro I been imagine a story sonce I was 14 then I play SMT 3 this year. They do the same shit

[@RaidenKaiser]

Metaphor is a Euphanism for "real life sucks lets all Isekai" :p

[@synthesun]

The final dungeons feel like they suffer from high expectations. Tho the dungeons prior in metaphor aren't inside or revolutionary they were decent

[@haixaldonix4945]

My hote take, the ice dragon boss fight wasn't that hard people just suck at strategy

[@memrigaming]

Don’t get me wrong I loved the game and the last few hours weren’t enough to completely ruin my enjoyment of it, but once the honey moon phase is over I wonder if it will be as memorable as some other of their games. They hyped it up for almost a decade, they got so close to making a cohesive experience for the whole duration of the game but butchered it right at the end. Overall still a favorite from the last few years, but I admit I made the mistake of having higher expectations because again, they hyped it up so much when it was still this mysterious project we knew little of.

[@lens_hunter]

Agree. IMO after the Prince/Will reveal the game started to feel very fast paced and tacked on. I struggled to get through the last two dungeons and I just wanted it to be over. Louis was this cold, calculated bad ass who instantly became a big fuckin baby.

[@memrigaming]

​@@lens_hunteroh yeah, they pressed on the accelerator hard after that reveal, but at that point I was over it. I couldn't have described the state of Louis in his last few hours better 😂

[@jerrym.7134]

@@lens_hunter How was Louis a baby at the end? Up until the final boss he was stern and never swayed from his view of the world and his ideals, even though his view was skewed because of the attack on the Eldan Sanctum. His motivations made sense to me and I could see why he had such a disdain for the world that took his life away. He eventually succumbed to his own anxiety because he never faced it and blamed it on the world, which is very ironic but I thought it was well done

[@lens_hunter]

@jerrym.7134 everything you said is why I described him as such.

[@jerrym.7134]

@@lens_hunter I don't think I understand how that makes him a baby? His motivations make complete sense in the world they live in, and I found him to be a great antagonist to the Prince's views and ideals and how they are basically opposites.

[@CollinSorenosn]

Game looks cool but im gonna wait for the complet edition or whatever they decide to call it

[@ShallBePurified]

My hot take is that the game is too long. I'm over 60 hours in and right before the final dungeon (I assume, please let this be the last). I just want to see the end of the game now. By too long I don't just mean the hours. I also mean the pacing. Some parts of the story is too slow there's too much time between story sections. I wish they would have condenced the game to be like 25% shorter.

[@glum006]

Metaphor was my first atlus game and I loved it. Would I like any other atlus game?

[@JMulls]

If you liked the scheduling, overworld activities, characterization, and story flow then you'd probably love Persona, and if you really loved the combat then chances are you'd enjoy Shin Megami Tensei which is largely a dungeon crawler and lighter on the story than Persona but darker in it's overall presentation and set in post apocalyptic settings.

[@adamvancleave9200]

The OST might be mid but I’ve heard more “generic fantasy music” from sci-fi.

[@lulu_TheWitchBoy]

It’s not mid at all, I rarely know music, but even I know how unique some of those songs are. And how good the composition is. Reload music I found eh, it’s catchy sure, but metaphor and, persona 5 just sound better to me. Not excepting everyone to choose the fully orchestra game but Mann I appreciate it.

[@adamvancleave9200]

@ I’m pretty much just saying that calling all orchestral music “generic fantasy” is pretty dumb.

[@RedBull528]

@@lulu_TheWitchBoyXenoblade is orchestral af and much better than Metaphor. It’s still a good soundtrack! Some songs I will never forget, but overall it just doesn’t cut it for me in comparison to some other video game soundtracks

[@Richard-jm3um]

Why are we such simps for the king?!

[@gravemind76]

Catarina was replaced with Basilio since it's 1 person of each eace.

[@Galaxy_123]

Mom am in a vid!!!!!!!! Lol

[@JMulls]

Lol! Thanks for the take!

[@Lolksking1]

Mc short and akward when bcm the king...

[@KyngD469]

Just like you my short prince