Your Problem Is Solved !! - Diesel Heater Thermostat By Bureck !!

[@wallacefrey6247]

You get what you pay for, and being made in the U.S.A. is a big plus. Great and honest review and video as always.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

It's gotta be worth something to know you're supporting a fellow countrymen... People are always complaining that everting is made overseas... They have the perfect opportunity to help change that... and they complain about $50. Thanks Wallace !

[@AtimatikArmy]

Props for being Made in the USA! Not an easy thing to do these days.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

ECACTLY … and I’ve got people complaining about the $50 or $70 price, in the comments… same people complaining next year about everything being made in China… what the fuck, people. This company is basically two guys in their garage, and this is why I asked to review their product… I’m 100% behind this. PS... I wrote this comment while standing in line at the DMV, haha... so I may have been riled up a little. However... turns out it went quickly and my truck is registered until 2025 ... Oops I did have to renew my license tho.

[@AtimatikArmy]

@@loweredexpectations4927 I hate the DMV! Anyway, I have no doubt the USA made thermostate is of very high quality and will likely last many years. Good stuff!

[@loweredexpectations4927]

@@AtimatikArmy I'm guessing the components aren't all made in the USA.. Likely from all over the world, but it's not just an off the shelf Chinese product being mass produced and sold by a corporation in North America ... so that's good.

[@AtimatikArmy]

​@loweredexpectations4927 No way to know, but at the very least the final assembly and quality control are done here and that is arguably the most important part of the manufacturing process.

[@autojohn-pu1vf]

@@loweredexpectations4927 Hey therethe 8kw unit I'm installing has cheezy on/off button and was a cerimoney trying to link remote that ONLY ajusts temp up/down, and powering on is problematic when temp set too low as temp won't ajust UNTILL powered up..... I can work around these issues BUT with the temp is set lower then ambient, the fan speed/heating lowers way down as it should works great however it stays running on low regardless of where the temp is set, and eventually get's TOO HOT!!! Will these controllers cycle the burner off when it gets too hot???,and back on???thanks

[@fenceup07944931177]

For all who think it's expensive. You could make one for about £25 in parts, so crack on. I know because I made something similar. It only takes a few components, but you will have to spend hours developing the code. You have to remember to make something cheap and bring it to market, you have to mass produce it, and get it made in china. There is limited demand for it and also these features are already finding there way in to some heaters. I say well done for bringing it to market.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Exactly ... Read a book, watch a video and make one yourself... if it's not worth the money it must be pretty easy. The cost is for convenience. I'm sure I could make a really crappy version of this.... without a schedule, haha...but I'm not going to, and neither are those who are complaining.

[@allanosborne6216]

thanks, Joul. I just ordered one of these and used you as my 'who told you about this'. I think this will be a great addition to my heating.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Thanks for the comment. I'm sure it will serve you well.

[@jimwaller470]

Thanks for the review. For the last three years, I have been using the Afterburner control. It is the thing that has made my heater a reasonable main heat source for my 35' 5th wheel in Canadian winters. The Bureck is physically similar. The wonderful thing is "Linear Hertz" mode where fuel supply and fan speed are modulated to maintain set point. Also are tuning capabilities wherein you can govern min and max fuel delivery and fan speed rates. This enables long term use without fear of carbon buildup. I highly recommend checking out Mr Jones Afterburner Diesel Heater Control.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

I have seen the afterburner on David McLuckie channel.... It is a next level control system for sure... much better for those who like to tinker and also want to keep a closer eye on things. I might reach out the Mr Jones and see if he wants to send me one for testing /review. I'm not sure I can justify the cost as I would only be using it for testing and review... I don't' have a specific need for such a fancy control system. The Bureck is less intimidating and a little more cost effective, but the two products are not really in the same ballpark when it comes to features.

[@Fyrfotaanders]

I have the Afterburner. Absolutely wonderful!

[@loweredexpectations4927]

@@Fyrfotaanders It seems like a really awesome product. It gives you top notch control and information.

[@anthonyguenther6008]

I was looking at one 30 mimutes ago,thought I would like one when I get diesel heater.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

You can now get some heaters that have this feature, but not many. The vevor Bluetooth heater does have this ability, but it is not as tunable.

[@Chris-yo4ks]

I will DEFINITELY be buying one of these....simply because it has the ability to display Freedomheight

[@loweredexpectations4927]

LOL... Nice. It is worth it. Not sure what heater you have, but the Vevor Bluetooth controller can display Decreased Frankenstein as well.. not on the app though.

[@Chris-yo4ks]

@@loweredexpectations4927 I do have a Vevor 8kw.....have only had it fired up for testing, will go to a remote cabin I'm building. as a 3rd means of heat. Lucky me, the controller that came with the heater uses an incompatible remote.....I found a replacement on amazon with a compatible remote.

[@reubenk7331]

I just found out about this today, when I was checking out the Afterburner, and found my ecu is not compatible. This device is so freaking awesome! I will definitely be grabbing one of these 🙂 I was actually looking into WIFI RF transmitters that could copy the signal, and then boom, I found this thing. I am really hoping they add functionality for multi day scheduling. If I could keep it above freezing, and then comfortable 2 days a week, this would be even better! Thanks for the run down of this device 🙂

[@loweredexpectations4927]

I agree... it will be great if they can add some functionality.

[@reubenk7331]

@@loweredexpectations4927 For sure! I imagine it would just be a bit of programming. I do wonder how many people would actually want that option though.

[@77impalaforums]

Thank you for this information. I just ordered one and look forward to having better temperature control in my workshop.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

It's a handy device ! It will be nice to be able to have your shop at the actual temperature you want it !

[@AdamStrawson-k6l]

Another great video, thank you! These heaters can also be controlled by the BroadLink rm4 pro which can come with a thermostat and humidistat. Mine only turned up today but it looks like you can not only turn it on/off but up/down based on either temperature, humidity or time.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Very interesting. I assume that the temp, humidity info is collected at the BroadLink unit and not transferred from the ECU.... so the BroadLink device would need to stay in the area with our heater. So many products on the market, so little time. haha.

[@AdamStrawson-k6l]

⁠Absolutely 100 %

[@robbennett]

I like that you can calibrate the temp. Mine is way off.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Yes, most of them are pretty far off. This has to do with air circulation, where and what you have the controller mounted to. This unit makes it much easier and much more accurate.

[@MM0SDK]

My Hcalory bluetooth unit does this already. The heater cycles on and off, complete shutdown, then restarts with temperature fluctuations. Climate control in the shed. :)

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Yes, the Vevor Bluetooth controller does this as well. It is not as accurate and a little awkward to access the menu... but it does have this function. The schedule is nice to have on the Bureck... I think the Vevor may have two set times as well... but again, awkward to use. This is aimed at all those people who have basic heaters with basic controllers ...

[@TheMajictech]

And it won’t even go over about 1/3 power in an attempt to get to your desired temperature totally negating the auto full shut down feature. This is my very recent experience with them, absolute rubbish in my opinion.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

@@TheMajictech I did a video on this, but I forget already. You can't set it on level to and use the auto off function ? I only used it once for the video demonstration. I have found some of my controller issues are due to the air flow in my truck and where I have my controller mounted... The one in my buddies 4Runner works much better as it is in the armrest area and reads more accurately.

[@TheCritterWindow]

I love mine it works grate. I was surprised it worked with that remote you have. I have the remote he shows.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Awesome... I think it's a great little product. Not terribly for the sort of shenanigans I get up to.... I told them this before they sent them... and they sent them anyway... Pretty cool company.

[@unionse7en]

IIRC the major advantage to the "Afterburner" controller is it can vary the heat output (fuel/air combos) between low and high parameters before it totally shuts off if a temp target is reached. I think the Bureck just shut of off or on to whatever static heat output level you have it set at....Start up cycles are harder on things...glow plug...batteries (if running off a battery) . I'm not sure if the afterbunred can do the following: vary heat output for fine control , but once in a while go to max for soot burn off.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

The afterburner is a much more sophisticated beast... It is aimed at heater enthusiasts, tinkers, or those who feel the need to see all of the data. It offers you much more control and shows you a lot more. It also uses wifi. This is a bit much for most people, and the cost is over twice as much. The Bureck just sends on and off signals based on temperature and time, if you use the schedule. A lot of people say that start up cycles are harder, but I have not seen any evidence of this. If a person is having glow plug issues, I suspect there is an underlying problem. Too much or not enough voltage, the plug staying on too long etc. If you are going to be turning your heater on and off to control temperature, this will be a lot harder on your battery, that is for sure. Most people who use these heaters, use a power supply to a power supply with battery back up, so this wouldn't be an issue.

[@steve9326]

Nice review, might have to get one. Thanks!

[@loweredexpectations4927]

It does exactly what it was intended to do. I'm an idiot when it comes to electronic devices, and I find it really easy to use and set up. Honestly, I don't have a lot of use for it, because most of my heater use is for testing purposes, but I know that this is the perfect product for many people. I actually told Bureck, when I first contacted them that I had no use for it and my interest was purely to test it... They were really cool about it and sent them out anyway.

[@raymatthews9978]

Love the product. Expensive ... One thing that is not clear on their website is the one without the battery. It must be plugged into the usb cable at all times. It does not say if that is 110v plug on the other end ... If so then the inverter would have to be on at all times. Just wondering.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Some have said it is $$. I think it's a great deal for convenience, but also wouldn't have purchased one, as I couldn't afford it. The plug on the corded version is a usb micro - plugs into a usb port 👍

[@TheMajictech]

How did I not know about these? About 60 miles from where I spent the last 34 years

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Very cool, haha... Maybe you can go pick one up. As far as I know this is a very new product.

[@TheMajictech]

@@loweredexpectations4927 I’m not there anymore but I ordered 2 and dropped your name in the “how did you hear about us” section

[@1marcelfilms]

I want one of these heaters but im usually only in the garage for 10 minutes at a time and a 2kw space heater is just a simple on off

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Yeah, they are not the best solution for every situation, that's for sure. They have their place, but electric is quick heat.

[@dfhepner]

This thermostat came out too late for me. 3 years ago I made a interface between a house thermostat and the remote as I needed to keep an out building at a constant temperature. The interface also has a function to not allow the heater to come on when the grid power goes down and also a function not to shutdown the heater when the battery supplying power drops below 50% charge.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Awesome ! I love the ingenuity !

[@coreybabcock2023]

I bought that same diesel heater for 105.00 from the vevor website at least i know this thermostat you showcase will work with my heater guess it won't cause my heater has the Bluetooth controller

[@loweredexpectations4927]

The Vevor Bluetooth heater has an Auto on Auto off feature, so this thermostat is not necessary. I recently released a video showing how to set this up. The name is "Unlocking The Bluetooth Diesel Heater Controller - Feature & Settings Discovered !" I will post a link in a separate comment as KZbin sometimes blocks comments if you add a link.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXm3aKSuobOagNU

[@Wheel-1]

Thanks for the video , So i take that it is Celsius only & 24 hr clock only ? if so that would be a nice option for US Fahrenheit & 12 hr clock application . Thanks for your time

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Thanks for your comment. Yes, the reason for the 24h clock is so that the schedule isn't accidentally set for the wrong time and you have your heater turning on at night, haha. It comes from Bureck, in Idaho, set to F and is easily changed to C or F in the settings menu. They may be able to change to a 12h clock at some point, by updating the firmware, but this would mean adding a AM / PM selection to both the clock and all of the schedules... Not impossible, but tricky to fit in a small screen and make sure that it is obvious... again, so that the heater actually turns on when you want it to.

[@tilly8297]

Thanks for lowering expectations... I wish you a safe... Stationary-ing. Another good video, Joel. 👍👍 Did I miss if you mentioned the distance range of communication with your heater... Full disclosure I blame my wife. Lolol

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Hey, Tilly. I believe they say 100ft in one of their videos... tho it may be more. The reason why I didn't mention it, is because this is to be used as a thermostat. It needs to be left in the area where you heater is located (the area where you heater is heating) The device itself has the thermostat in it and needs to remain close to the heater in order to read the temperature. This isn't a device that you carry with you or keep in your house while heating your garage. I hope this clears things up.

[@tilly8297]

@@loweredexpectations4927 ok... I suppose that does kinda make sense. (Hangs head, palms forehead, sighs "duh") thank you for clearing that up tho. ❤️

[@loweredexpectations4927]

@@tilly8297 I had this same thought several times ... even after realizing what I just told you... I'm just so used to having a fob in my pocket ... I somehow convinced myself it used the thermometer on the controller and sent a signal to the Bureck unit... I guess the problem is, I actually didn't think about it, haha..

[@gordonwilloughby8793]

I think I understand why they sent two of those thermostats. Since charging them warms them causing inaccuracy it would be a good idea to have a second one to use while the one that is charging is disabled.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Haha... 👍 Good theory, but no. They sent me two because I asked for two, but in the email communication they said they would send one... hence the confusion. The thermostat doesn't take that long to charge, and when it's done, it returns to normal operation. I think unless you have a real good reason to get the one with the battery, it makes more sense to get the plug in unit...

[@__WJK__]

Excellent review! The aftermarket smart remote is a step in the right direction, it's just too bad it can't be programmed for days of the week & doesn't work properly with the OEM bluetooth heater displays. One question... can the remote's clock/timer be switched to 12hr, or is the 24hr format the only option?

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Thanks ! I assume the reason it does funny things with the bluetooth controller is that it is sending signals once the heater is on, and the controller is picking them up and oddly, switching settings. I have contacted them about this and it may be something they can update in their firmware. The schedules is also something I assumed would have days of the week, but I can understand why they did it this way for now... It looks like they have already updated the firmware a few times between their instructional video and my remote, as it is a few versions later. At first I was like "UGH !! 24H time" ... and then it became obvious why. This is so it is basically impossible to set your schedule wrong... WIth 12 hr time, you could have your heater turning on 12 hours away from when you want it to, haha. They could add AM PM to it, and maybe they will, but that adds complications, one more thing to set and one more thing to include on a small LCD screen.

[@werner.x]

@@loweredexpectations4927 Exactly. The rest of the world just gets puzzled with this am/pm thing and then, you have the next accident with who knows what consequences. I figure, even an US citizen can't set the timers accidentally wrong with 24h display.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

@@werner.x 🤣 haha... I am confused by 24h time as I have never taken the time to figure it out... but is can see the practicality in using it. When being precise is important, it is a lot safer to say 13:00 rather than 1 and then hopefully remember to add "pm"

[@werner.x]

@@loweredexpectations4927 We use "2 Uhr (nachmittags)" also, but it's strictly informal. Often enough we tell each other, let's meet at 7 and really everybody, who isn't a musician, has to ask twice, if it isn't perfectly clear in the context. Only artists don't need to ask, because "7 Uhr vormittags" is sleeping time anyhow. Can't have that in the technical world. Won't work at all.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

@@werner.x I'm going to have to agree with the artists, is7 Uhr vormittags sleeping time.

[@Gudtime]

Love Your Testing Vids ! If you needed to Heat a Large Area.. ie: Shop, Greenhouse.. have you ever tried exhausting into say a 45 Gallon drum First.. then to the outdoors ? Would it Heat Up and Radiate somewhat.. or Dangerous with 45 Gal. of Exhaust Gas waiting to escape ?

[@loweredexpectations4927]

I haven't tried that... I don't really have the space for a large drum. I would imagine that this would be fairly effective at capturing some heat due to the large surface are of the drum. You would want to vent in probably near the top, or 1/3 of the way down, and then vent out of the bottom. I assume that moisture would build up, so you would need to allow it to drain off somehow. If the system was sealed, it shouldn't be a problem. There is almost no pressure.

[@socialhostage8534]

I used to work in a factory in The Netherlands. We are allowed to put "Made in USA" stickers on the finished product because the head quarters were in the USA. Besides all that. Chargers came from Taiwan, electronics from China, switches from Mexico, steel parts from China other steel parts made in house in NL. Nothing is made in USA. Apparently not even assembled when HQ is in the USA. Parts are often from all over the world!

[@loweredexpectations4927]

I am guessing that many of the parts are from all over the world. Days after making that title, I realized that they don't claim to be made in the USA and I made that assumption based on their videos... they appear to be two guys in their garage. I have considered changing the title, but then would certainly get accused of hiding something, and or people would assume that they weren't made in the US... That being said, it is a US company made of two guys in a home shop that designed both the product and software. If the end product ships directly from China, it was still made in the US on some level ? The physical item itself is only a small part of the actual user product. They are available to talk to, constantly working to improve the product and are able to deal with people on a 1 on 1 basis to make this product actually work with the multitude of different heaters out there. I fully support this type of business / project. Despite where they may happen to source their physical parts, to me, this is still an American product. Sorry about the rant... I sometimes have a hard time explaining myself.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

@@aquaticape2273 Who did ? and what company ?

[@MrSector9]

Pretty handy product if you need this functionality.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Can you explain why ? I'm not a fan of them, personally... but I have several battery packs, a bluetooth speaker and Skull Candy headphones that all use this... I much prefer USB C

[@Wrenchmonkey1]

@@loweredexpectations4927 I think I found your misplaced reply. 😉

[@dougshedshop]

Finally I been after Vevor for an updated Bluetooth display well I guess I have found one finally

[@loweredexpectations4927]

👍 Not sure if you saw in my video, but this did have some issues with switching modes on the Bluetooth controller. That being said, Bureck was able to send me Updated firmware that seems to have taken care of this issue. For now, they are dealing with this on a case by case basis, as most heaters work better with the original firmware. I should have a video out on this update soon.

[@fixbuildplay5249]

Does this regulate the HZ of the heater or just turn on and off? BTW there is another version by a different company. Think they are out of Australia if you want to research that. That one seemed a bit nicer but think it was more expensive.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

This device simply turns the heater on and off. The other device you are talking about is the Afterburner. It offers a LOT more control over you heater. If you want ultimate control, then it is the way to go, for sure.... It even has wifi. This device is simple, easy to use and does exactly what it is designed to do.

[@TomMills-q7k]

What is the max temp the bureck thermostat be set. I would need up to 55 degrees celsius.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Sorry I missed your comment. I hope you got this sorted out.

[@curtdunlap6818]

My heater already does that (purchased Dec 1 or 2). I just wish I could lower the temperature differential on it.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

The bluetooth controller does have a user menu where you can adjust the temperature offset ... you can go + or - 9C ... I have a video about this on my channel. Unlocking The Bluetooth Diesel Heater Controller - Feature & Settings Discovered !

[@loweredexpectations4927]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXm3aKSuobOagNU

[@tilly8297]

I'm sorry, but I half expected you to say to just lower your expectations. 😆

[@loweredexpectations4927]

@@tilly8297 🤣 I should have just pulled that card... I sometimes need a reminder to be clever.

[@flepper231]

I've noticed that during the charging of the battery the housing heats up considerably and sends an OFF signal to my heater. Even after more than an hour the housing is still a few degrees celsius above the surrounding temperature. I don't know if it's possible to keep it connected to an USB charger, since it will trickle charge the battery (and keep the housing temperature higher than the true temperature).

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Yes, the heating up issue has been pointed out by myself as well as Bureck. There is a setting in the settings menu 1, the second item down that says "use battery:" I have not been able to test this, but if you set it to off, the battery charging symbol disappears ... when plugged into power it may not charge or use the battery. Give this a try. I don't know how it decides when to charge, but I don't think it trickle charges... I may be wrong but I think with lithium ion batteries they would allow it to drop some and then charge.

[@flepper231]

@@loweredexpectations4927 Wow, thanks! I completely missed that option.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

@@flepper231 👍 I hope it works for you ! I tested mine yesterday and it seems to work well that way, though I wasn't able to monitor it for very long.

[@flepper231]

@@loweredexpectations4927 I tested it just now and set the battery to OFF with the USB connected but still saw the temperature rise :( It seems as if that setting only controls the display of the battery indicator since I could disconnect it and it still worked (hence was still on battery). I will drop an email to Burdeck and let you know.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

@@flepper231 I just tried mine again after reading your comment and the temp went up 2C right away ... so hopefully this is something they can sort out.

[@gangs73rThug]

Would like to know if it maintains the time precisely. My current unit losses 15-20 minutes every day... I must enter every night the correct time so I can find the car warm. I cant understand what's the problem and I`m curious if with this remote would solve my problem.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

I haven't had mine long enough to be able to say for sure... I keep changing the time and adjusting things for the sake of video.... but they do talk about it being able to maintain time even in low battery mode in their manual video. You could email them about this and see what they have to say.

[@rockcralwer]

can you look into a controller that allows you to control the heater over wifi, that would be super nice. I would be able to turn on the heater on my way home from work so my shop would be nice and warm when i get home, vs getting home and having to wait to get into the shop

[@loweredexpectations4927]

There is a product called "Afterburner" I believe a guy in Australia. David McLuckie has some videos about this... it is an awesome product that has more functionality than anyone could ever ask for.... I haven't asked them to send me one as I don't know that I could do it justice with my silly tests.... but I may ask anyway.

[@rockcralwer]

@@loweredexpectations4927 that would be awesome. I have the same new diesel heater you have with the Bluetooth so was wondering if his unit would work. I appreciate your time and love your videos

[@loweredexpectations4927]

@@rockcralwer I believe for the Afterburner to work on your heater, you would have to replace the ECU ... The bluetooth controller is fairly new, so Afterburner may not have it on their website for that reason... or it may not be compatible. You can buy a new compatible ECU for $30-40, but it all adds up when the Afterburner itself is $120 - 154, depending on options.

[@rockcralwer]

@@loweredexpectations4927 no that's why I hoping to see if you might be able to get it to work haha. But maybe I just have to wait and see if he is able to update his unit to work with the new ecu.

[@tonyshipman257]

@@loweredexpectations4927 I recently had to purchase a compatible ECU and Controller to get the Diesel Heater I had already installed, in my G3500 Project, to be able to work with the Afterburner. Next step for me is to buy an Afterburner. FYI - my G3500 Project is a 1ton Cab and Chassis that I purchased used and install a semi sleeper box and had a custom flatbed made for it. I needed to find a way to control the heat has the sleeper box is not that big and I kept getting roasted out, even on the lowest setting, with the factory controller that came with the diesel heater. Please let us know "IF" and "WHEN" you might give away one of those Bureck CD thermostats. I for one would be very interested. It would also be nice to compare the two as I not only have the sleeper box, I have a couple RV's that I'm restoring and customizing. BTW - I first started watching your videos about using waste oil in the DH. Thanks for taking the time to post your content. All the Best, Tony

[@plainandsimple1]

Hey man, excellent review. I have the same vevor heater but the "8kw" version, was the incompatible remote the one that originally came with it?

[@loweredexpectations4927]

I assume you are talking about the red remote with the LCD screen and not the Bluetooth heater. Yes, it was the original ECU and remote. Bureck has already emailed me about working on their firmware and have sent me a fix for the Bluetooth heater... I haven't tried it yet.

[@bcm20003]

Don't know if this question has been asked, but if you restrict the hot airflow, without have one of these "Thermostat" with an "POWERTEC 70165V 3-Inch Aluminum Blast Gate" would damage the unit.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

I think I understand what you are saying.... If you block the air flow the heater will very quickly overheat, shutdown and give an E-5 error code. If you restrict air flow through the heater, it will absolutely overheat, pretty quickly. If you want to do this, the best option would be to redirect the air instead of just blocking it. You can get split Y valves... Not sure about ones that are rated to take this much heat, but that may be an option.

[@bcm20003]

@loweredexpectations4927 Ok... I was wondering if it would be possible to shut the vent maybe halfway when it gets too hot. I don't want it to overheat so I guess I'll look into one those remotes. Thanks

[@loweredexpectations4927]

@@bcm20003 Like I said... if possible you can add a Y or a T and vent some of the heat outside or to another area... but that seems wasteful. The thermostat is a good solution.

[@Manufacturingsite1]

Nice video

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Thanks ! I appreciate the comment.

[@skippyone3085]

So swing is + - X Set point 24C off @ 26C back on @ 22C ????

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Something like that... I haven't played with it in a while and I forget, but that's basically right.

[@bluesguitarg]

Is the thermostat able to function solely from USB power, with no battery installed? If so, does it still experience the same issue with inaccurate temperature readings when running on USB power?

[@loweredexpectations4927]

You can purchase the $50 unit that does not have a battery or charger. You keep it connected to power using the USB and it works fine. In the controller that has a battery, there is a setting that says "use battery" or something like that... and you can turn it off. I'm not sure if this disconnects the battery when plugged into power or not. EIther way, if you use the battery unit always plugged into power, it will only make heat when it is actually topping up the battery. So, for a few minutes a day it won't turn your heater on. Once the changing is complete, and the thermostat cools, it will turn your heater on. I would like to test this and actually get numbers on it, but it is extremely hard to track the actual data.

[@Camper634]

When i have schedule on it starts up ok,but at the time it is supposed to turn it off(deactivate)it does not stop .Any ideas please?Thank you.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Sorry for the delay... I have been really busy. I suggest contacting Bureck about this. Nothing is popping into my head as to why, but it may be really simple.

[@RIMHQ-YT]

If you decide to give one away, im happy to try it. :) and if i dont like it i will send it further to one of your subs

[@loweredexpectations4927]

I will announce in a video what I decide to do. Bureck has watched my video and already sent me new software in an attempt to avoid the glitches with my Bluetooth heater... so I have to do more testing.

[@RIMHQ-YT]

@@loweredexpectations4927 that's cool! Looking forward to next video. My 2 heaters are running good still. Strange I need the remote to see what temperature the burn chamber has. But I just crank them both on and now I'm more focused on the bike builds. Luckily I am warm.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

@@RIMHQ-YT Awesome ... being warm is the best ! haha.

[@allanosborne6216]

I have purchased the Bureck thermostat and I have a Vevor diesel heater but the thermostat will not clone to my remote. I set it on to search for an on signal and I pressed the 'on' on the remote but nothing happened. no link up. what is going on? thanks BTW I have an 8kw heater with a red remote. Thanks bud. always love your vids.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Hey, sorry for the delayed reply... I have been very busy with other things. I tried this on my red LCD controller and was not able to get it to work either. I don't think they operate at the same (carrier?) frequency. If you haven't already sorted this out, I would contact the fellows at Bureck. If there is a way, they will be able to sort you out.

[@vienna-oe8xr]

"Motivation is what gets you started. Habit is what keeps you going." _Jim Ryun

[@loweredexpectations4927]

I think the word "habit" could have been replaced with "obsession" haha.

[@acidcrashdburnd]

How long did it take for them to ship yours? I ordered 4 days ago with no updates :(

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Sorry I missed your comment. Hopefully you have it by now. I live in Canada and mine took a while.

[@bearupfarm1818]

Will it work on different types of heaters?

[@loweredexpectations4927]

It works on a lot of different heaters. If you have a simple remote FOB with on, off and heat up and down, it will likely work for yours. If you have a fancy remote with the LCD screen, this may not work. They are happy to answer questions if you email them.

[@sunroameroverland]

So this will not allow me to set temp on and set temp off. Like ,49 on. 59 off

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Yes, that is what the swing is for. You set a 10ºF swing, then set your thermostat to 59. The heater will turn off at 59 and turn back on when it goes down to 49. The way they actually do it you would actually set your swing to 9, and once it goes past 9 ( to 10) it will turn back on. It's just easier to explain as I did above. Hopefully this makes sense.

[@TheMamonti1]

Doesn't the bluetooth controller have a auto thermostat setting that shuts the heater down? Or is the point of this the degree level of when it starts and stops? Each time it starts and shuts down it fires the glow plug (8-10amp) on my heaters I assume they all do.

[@MM0SDK]

it does and you can calibrate the temp too... at least i know you can on the hcalory

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Yes, the Bluetooth controller is one of the few that will actually shut the heater off, so it is not needed on this controller... Most do not have this capability. The Vevor Bluetooth heater can also be set to turn on and off, but I believe only on once a day, and then off once. It will do this every day of the week same time of the day. This gives you a little more functionality with 4 scheduled temp changes. Yes... the glow plug turns on and off each time, so that's why the "swing" feature is important on this thermostat. It allows you to set the thermostat so the temperature can vary (as much as you want) a few degrees, so that your heater will only turn on and off once or twice an hour, instead of 10 times an hour. I don't believe the Bluetooth controller allows you to set a swing temperature.... it may. This also allows you to calibrate to the exact temperature, where the Vevor controller allows +/- 9C of adjustment. That is important to some people.

[@ThomasGoyette-bd3cs]

As much as I want this - the price is just hard to justify...

[@loweredexpectations4927]

I know that I couldn't have justified / afforded one... but in most cases, the savings from using it would pay for itself very quickly.

[@michaelbush454]

would be much better if it just tuned the pump speed down when it reaches temp then ramp back up at the set point. Maybe then turn off if lower limit not reached in 10 mins. Seems a bit stupid to keep turning on & off.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

While this may be true in some cases, many people use these heaters to heat small spaces. Even with the heater on setting 1, it will go to 30 or 40C ... My truck has this issue if the temperature is -10C or warmer. I've had it up over 42C The Bureck thermostat has adjustable swing temperature so that you can allow the temperature to vary, and only turn on and off a few times an hour. You also have the option of setting your heater to level 3 (for example) instead of level 10, (on your controller)... That way your thermostat can request a temperature of 22 (for example) and your heater may take an hour or two to reach 22C.... This gives you a lot more options. While turning on and off isn't good for everyone, it is sort of ideal for some people, and this product is for them.

[@TheMajictech]

Ahh so in theory, if you had an extra one of these you could clone your neighbors garage door opener with it and drive them batshit with timing the door open and closed at random times. 😅

[@loweredexpectations4927]

LOL.... Sadly, garage door opener remotes use what they call rolling codes that change every time you use it... specifically so that people can't clone it, haha... This would be fun though. I worked for Sears for several years, and did some work on garage door openers. A few times a month we would get service calls about a customers door randomly opening....Most of the time it's likely them accidentally sitting on their remote, but it does happen there there's a rogue signal that happens to do the trick. I never got to use it, but we did have a tool that would monitor signals in the area and tell you what frequencies they were at... basically trying to detect if there really was a problem signal in the area.

[@ddthames]

Nice

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Thanks !

[@FliesGoodbyes]

Mine didnt come with a remote so...

[@Zzrdemon6633]

I am surprised as hell wabaso never made one decades ago, they could have charged 2-300$ till the patent ran out

[@loweredexpectations4927]

That's a good point... Odd that they haven't been out for decades from some of the big names.

[@SR-gt350]

Hmmm, i wonder if you could clone car key fobs 😂

[@loweredexpectations4927]

LOL... it's worth a try... I'm guessing that it operates at a different frequency... they talk about the frequency in one of their videos.

[@fenceup07944931177]

A car key fob has more security. It don't think it sends the same code each time. Probably uses some sort of algorithm to keep changing it. Don't know will have to Google it.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

@@fenceup07944931177 Yes... same deal with garage door openers... I worked for Sears and did some work on their openers. They have rolling codes so that they are never the same twice... Specifically to avoid people copying your signal.

[@davidcharleston1314]

Can you not just hook up your nest thermostat to it ?

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Does the nest thermostat send out RF signals ? There are devices that can do this sort of thing. However... if you are heating your greenhouse, or car, or shed, you would need the nest thermostat in your greenhouse, car, shed etc.

[@StephenShreds]

Sup dood

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Hey ! Keeping warm !!

[@blacksheep5736]

Buy a cheap heater with a controller with a rotary knob / Bluetooth and it can do all this 😉

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Not sure what you mean by "rotary knob / Bluetooth " ... I have never seen a rotary knob unit with Bluetooth. Relly ? The rotary knob controller turns your heater on and off ? I know it doesn't have a schedule, haha... but does it really turn the heater off ? I have never used one of the rotary controllers. I assumed that the knob just sets the heater to a specific output ? Like all the way clockwise was 5kw output the low setting was .8kw or something and the middle is around 2kw... They actually have a thermostat that turns the heater off when the room reaches 19C (66F) ?

[@MM0SDK]

yes it actually turns the heater off and on, no burning fuel when off. My Hcalory bluetooth unit, you can calibrate the reported temp too. @@loweredexpectations4927

[@blacksheep5736]

@@loweredexpectations4927 I had also placed the site of the manual for the controller here, in particular F8 > F9 thermostat settings, but KZbin removed that. But here's the thing: F8: Bluetooth switch F9: automatic start/stop heater; (in automatic mode, when the cab temperature reaches the set temperature, it will automatically turn off after 30s delay; when the cab temperature is lower than the set temperature by 2°C, it will automatically turn on after 30s delay Press [ Knob] to modify, press [Knob] again to confirm the current data modification. Rotate [knob] to adjust the setting items, after all the adjustments are successful, long press [ ] for 3s to save all the basic settings Engineering Mode: Power on the state while holding down 3s into the project mode, the upper right corner shows the current project, the interface shows the specific data under the project, rotate the [knob] to adjust the project. (F5:Temperature compensation)

[@loweredexpectations4927]

@@blacksheep5736 That's crazy... why is this the first time I'm hearing about this !? What country are you in ? Are you able to send me the number that hidden in plain site above the title of the item. For example ZCJRQYTJ8KWDFKLYJV0. To find this number you have to highlight / select the name of the product and keep selecting up... basically click on the title and move your cursor up. It is white text on a white screen, so you can't see it until it is highlighted. If I can find one in Canada I will ask Vevor to send me one.

[@SR-gt350]

Cool, can i buy thru you

[@loweredexpectations4927]

No... I'm just doing this because I want to promote a US company, and they seem like good people. You can tell them I sent you, haha.

[@DonaldWells-wk8dc]

​@@loweredexpectations4927lowered expectations on this clip... alright...

[@CS-uc2oh]

They are crazy as hell for the price. People who make products for these heaters need to take into consideration the actual cost of the heater. Why the hell would I pay $70 for a remote control for a $100 heater? That's just ridiculous. What the remote offers isn't justification for that price.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

I personally think the price is very good, and I have no skin in the game. $50 for the plug in version (which makes more sense to me) is a bargain. I think you are looking at this in the wrong way. This has nothing to do with the cost of the heater... you are paying for the convenience of the device ... You have the heater ...and it does heater things... Some of these heaters sell for over $1000 and don't have a thermostat. The $70 or $50 is to make the heater a lot nicer to use. Comparable products, like the Afterburner sell for around $120 - 130 and are way more complicated. If you can't afford the $50 for one of these, you are in good company ... neither can I... but as poor as I am, I can see the value in this product and appreciate that a couple of dudes in Idiho basically made this in their garage.

[@Reman1975]

When you think about it that way then it probably does sound pretty expensive, but if you look at it as an "Ease of use" option for a 10k budget camper conversion it's not excessively bad. I mean, these days you can pay more than this for a couple 8x4 sheets of 1/2" ply, so as part of the whole project it's probably worth it to a fair few people. Something like this is never going to be mass produced to the same levels as the heaters though, and if they're still at the level of production where they're building these controllers by hand, that's a significant amount of work time invested in each unit. If they're putting in the hours they need to get paid for it, or the business won't be solvent for long.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

​@@Reman1975 I totally get it... I personally can't afford the $50 to buy one right now. Lots of people who buy these heaters are doing so because they can't afford another option... I know lots of people are using these heaters to heat one room of their house, and leaving the rest of the house chill... However, I don't confuse my poor financial standing with the value of a product. This thermostat would likely pay for itself in two weeks if you were using the schedule to heat an area instead of leaving your heater run all the time. Put aside $10 week and you'll have money to buy one in less than two months. One last thought. I find it thoroughly amusing that people are angry about the price of a product they didn't know existed just a few minutes ago... Like... You don't have to buy it. If it was $1000, that would be over priced, but if Bureck decided to sell it for that much you still have the same choice to make ... do I want to spend X on it or not. The other option is to make one yourself ... How hard can it be if it's not worth $50

[@Wrenchmonkey1]

That's a really silly way to quantify the value of something. $50-$70 for a thermostat that adds a ton of functionality and convenience is pretty reasonable. If you want to put in the work to design and sell something for less, then go for it. If it's good, people will buy your cheaper product instead. Everybody's a critic. 🤷‍♂️

[@korsez]

I made a thermostat with a few w1209 thermostats and relays with a spare keyfob remote. But the price is oretty much the same. I bought all the components of the shelf localy. Didn't want to wait for them from china.

[@jmangus83]

Why is anyone using micro usb for charging? Usb-c should be standard as pretty much any quality device made in recent years utilize this new standard, heck even apple have swapped over reluctantly, because of eu regulations and the fact usb-c offers better performance than their lightning port. Even though we dont need the data transfer rates and other features usb-c offer, having one less cord and port reliability is more than worth it. Everyone has had a micro usb port that wouldnt even hold onto the cable and would lose connection if it was wiggled in the port ever so slightly.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

I assume, as a couple of guys in their home shop, and this being their first product, it likely has something to do with cost, but I can't say for sure. I can see how the stuff you mentioned matters for a phone or storage device, but data transfer is almost non existent, and power remands on this device and pretty low. There are already heat "issues" while charging at this low rate, so more wattage wouldn't be good. This isn't a phone and most will be plugged in once and left plugged in. If you do have to charge it, it will be once a week and not once a day, so I don't expect longevity to be an issue. I have some USB C cables that loose connection if I fart... haha... it's really annoying as I use them for transferring video footage to my Mac...

[@jmangus83]

@@loweredexpectations4927 cost can't be much greater for a usb-c and I'd much rather pay for the extra $1-2 bucks in additional costs just to have 1 less cable to deal with. I've never had an issue using a quality usb-c port loosing connection unless there was debris inside which was remedied by using a pic to remove the piece of sawdust or compressed air keyboard cleaner. Not hating on the product, just hoping they make a revision 2 that includes the updated port. I personally won't buy anything with micro USB and have swapped working older devices with updated ones utilizing the new charging standard, like Bluetooth accessories etc, just so I always have the correct cable on hand to charge. With not necessarily being a product that is meant to be used on the go, and will likely always stay in one place, it still would be a nice improvement. Regarding thermostat inaccuracies while charging on the battery model, does the non battery model suffer the same issue since power is running to it at all times, or not really since it doesn't have a battery inside heating up? You might have mentioned this in the video and I missed it, so forgive me if that's the case

[@John.Greaney]

Looks like a clone of the Afterburner Controller

[@loweredexpectations4927]

It is white, haha... Not even close to being a clone. The Afterburner is an advanced system monitoring and controlling device that offers it's user the ultimate level of control. The Bureck CD Thermostat is a thermostat.

[@martinpanks992]

Carnt you just use the heaters built in thermostat the same..

[@loweredexpectations4927]

That depends on what you are asking, but in general, no. The Vevor Bluetooth heater does have a Smart Mode, where it will lower the heat setting to low to maintain the temperature, and it also has an Auto Off function that will turn the heater on and off based on the thermometer in the controller. However, this is the only controller (the Bluetooth version) that offers this feature, other than an aftermarket unit like the Afterburner. Most diesel heaters have a level setting. You set the heater to max level and it puts out 5kw and at the mid setting, it puts out 2 kw, for example.... They don't care what the temperature is. Some newer controllers do have some sort of thermostatic control where they will lower the heat level, but will not turn the heater off.

[@martinpanks992]

@@loweredexpectations4927 my Hcalory heater has Hz setting and °c setting.. Won't the heater maintain set °c temprature, Ie if you set it at 30°c won't the heater maintain that temprature, i know that isn't the room temp but surely you can work from that..

[@loweredexpectations4927]

​@@martinpanks992 A few heaters do have this capability, however, most will not actually turn the heater on and off. They will raise or lower the heat setting (heat output) but the heater will not turn off. I'm not sure if your heater will turn off... I have never used one. If your heater can't keep up, if you are asking it to heat to 30C and it can only reach 18, then this doesn't matter... but if you are asking it to be 18C and is on setting 1... the temperature might go to 30 or 40C.

[@paulbuck4978]

Are you really going to give one away? I'd put my name in for a draw.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

I do believe I will eventually be giving them both away, but I haven't figured out the logistics yet.. When I do I will announce it in a video.

[@ubrikbregga8294]

Made in USA? Why does it say the same thing as my dash cam that's made in China same voice and same words " Thanks for using I wish you a safe journey" listen at about 5:17

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Haha... You are very confused about what is happening here. Fair enough. The white thermostat is a Bureck CD Thermostat control that was designed and made by two guys in Idaho. The thing that you hear talking is the heater control of the Chinese diesel heater.

[@memadmax69]

Pretty cool but I would rather have something thats wired into the heater and just basically replaces the crappy knockoff chinese computer...

[@loweredexpectations4927]

If they get enough support on this product, I can see then doing that... however, this single product is able to work with many more heaters than a plug in unit would be. It's difficult to start a business like this, so I think this is the smart way to go. Having a wired controller does make a lot more sense to me, because it is always going to be in the area of the heater, and that way you don't need to worry about a power source.

[@timbrimm4397]

I won't buy anything that has micro USB

[@loweredexpectations4927]

Did you comment this twice... I'm sure I just responded to this. Why? What's the problem with Micro USB C ? .... that's a pretty strong stance.

[@fenceup07944931177]

@@loweredexpectations4927 yes it's more than adequate for delivering 5v at low current.

[@Wrenchmonkey1]

@@loweredexpectations4927 What's micro usb-c? I've only heard of Micro USB, and USB-C. Micro-USB was the small USB standard for most smaller devices for a long time, and it had a pretty high failure rate. USB-C is infinitely superior. I'm not aware of anything called micro USB-C.

[@marksparks8852]

@@Wrenchmonkey1 there's also mini usb commonly used on Garmin GPS & some car camera dvr's. It's about twice as thick as the micro. I'd also like to see USB-C on any future models. It's becoming a worldwide standard now that the E.U. is requiring it on all phones, including Apple's. The plug works either way you insert it & it can carry a lot more power, even enough for the glow plug I think.

[@Wrenchmonkey1]

@@marksparks8852 Yeah, there are other USB connectors. But based on the name he gave, I'm only aware of those two as referring to two completely different connectors.

[@jasonkushneryk5649]

This thing is as much as the heater, what a joke

[@loweredexpectations4927]

You can get the plug in one for $50. No good reason I can see for having the battery one 🤷‍♂️ There may be a good reason... If you can get a heater for $50 that means the heater is ridiculously cheap... and part of the reason you can get it for $50 is because it doesn't have features like thermostat control and a schedule. I personally can't afford one of these thermostats... but that's because I'm poor. The product, in my mind is more than reasonable priced, as it is a luxury item. You can buy a Vevor Bluetooth heater and it comes with some of these features, but it will cost you more than $50. My first heater cost me $185.99 and didn't even have a clock.

[@DonaldWells-wk8dc]

Vevor ought to be sued for withholding the functionality of the product.

[@loweredexpectations4927]

What has to happen to a person in their life, that they are this entitled ? This is absurd !! First off.... Vevor DOES offer this function, on their Bluetooth models. Secondly, these heaters have been out for decades, and dozens of companies have manufactured them.... "Withholding" as you call it means that it existed and they just aren't giving it to you.... This requires effort to create a product that does this... there's a huge difference. I hope you are just having a bad day and aren't always this much of an idiot... Feel free to chill the fuck out and join our happy family.

[@johncollinsgrove1750]

Lmao. It has nothing to do with vevor. It's not a function of the heater. It's a 3rd party remote that turns the heater on and off for you. No different than you turning the heater on and off with the controller when you notice it's to hot or cold.

[@tilly8297]

Trolls gotta troll... But trolling trolls is hard sometimes... ...trolling trolls is harder when you're stupid -John Wayne(ish) ca. 20th century

[@tilly8297]

... Wife says: "Does it really matter? It's the wife that controls the heater anyway... Even if it IS YOUR Graje" (she's also a fan of your channel... by proxy)

[@loweredexpectations4927]

@@johncollinsgrove1750 My 2003 GMC doesn't come with a remote starter ... I'm going to sue for withholding ...

[@lasersbee]

4:58... What is Talking ?

[@loweredexpectations4927]

The Vevor heater controller.