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Football Manager 25 | I polled The FM community and found out what people are REALLY thinking about FM25
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In today's video, I am joined by ‪@OmegaLukeGaming‬to discuss and dissect a set of polls I set up on X. Are people really outraged over the FM25 release? Or is it a very vocal minority?
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[@Clayts]

@omegalukegaming Will fm25 run on my laptop? 45 nm "Sub to Clayts" 2.26 GHz Intel "Core 2 Duo" processor (P7550) -- with two independent processor "cores" on a single silicon chip -- a 3 MB shared "on chip" level 2 cache, a 1066 MHz frontside bus, 2 GB of 1066 MHz DDR3 SDRAM (PC3-8500) installed in pairs (two 1 GB modules), a 250 GB Serial ATA (5400 RPM) hard drive, and an 8X DL "SuperDrive". It also features a NVIDIA GeForce 9400M "graphics processor with 256 MB of SDRAM shared with main memory" and a 13.3" widescreen TFT active-matrix LED-backlit "glossy" display (1280x800 native resolution).

[@alliedatheistalliance6776]

Or if you're lazy like me, head over to canyourunit and use their tool. It's a small download which inspects your hardware and comparews it to the specs required, and possibly some other metrics too. As far as I can tell there's no spyware etc bundled in it (I scanned it with a couple of spyware tools). Yeah I kn ow I'm a dumb ass and I should know all the specs of my pc off by heart, including the entire manufacturer history and serial numbers, but I just don't so sue me

[@i.blomen]

SI would solve 90% of their problems if they weren't so terrible at marketing. Im sure there is probably millions of people who would also play their game if they learnt how to actually show it off properly.

[@rbfishcs123]

They need to take the microphone away from Miles.

[@anthonyguiness9]

It feels like their marketing is still geared towards their existing players, like it used to be 10-15 years ago, but now their aim is publicly known to be around attracting new players but they haven't changed their strategy accordingly. Could have a big impact

[@bigmaguire9714]

No point pre ordering because: 1. No beta/early access mentioned 2. SI won't run out of copies to sell because it's a digital game. 3. All doom and gloom from SI, big features removed, delayed release, no footage of ME or how UI works, Roadmap with one confirmed date/week on it. If you pre order I think you are solely doing it out of the love for FM because there is nothing logical about pre ordering atm. The fact they are asking for pre orders without even showing the new ME etc is shameless from SI

[@TheBake1986]

Asking for pre-orders before showing the game is shameful and unacceptable business practice to me. This isn’t a kickstarter or dream project.

[@bradwhiteuk]

In general, pre-ordering is a bad idea. However, for the last several FM releases I think it's been ok to pre-order, because you get early-access AND you have a pretty strong idea what the game will be like. Neither of those reasons exist for FM25. Please guys, do NOT pre-order, at least until we've seen some concrete idea about what we're gonna be getting. The development cycle for this game could hardly be throwing up MORE red flags than it currently is.

[@anthonyguiness9]

​@@bradwhiteukOh development could definitely be worse 😂 Pre-ordering isn't bad. At the end of the day it's up to individuals if they want to pre-order, some will always pre-order and some never will.

[@saltybfm]

37% of people annoyed/gutted about the removal of International football is quite high! Considering the 5.6% stat for saves that’s used International management. If you remove all the saves where people opened up FM once or twice, played for 4 or 5 hours, never completed a full season, I wonder if that 5.6% would have higher? This poll suggests people care more about International Football in FM than the loud “who cares it’s rubbish anyway” people on X

[@alexhoe5684]

i can only speak for me but can imagine other people feel the same. I didnt touch international management for years because it sucked. I would love nothing more than a proper mode to play international teams and thats what i have hoped for for so long. A complete overhaul of it to make it as enjoyable as it should be, instead of removing it. As long as they bring it bcak the year after, and its better than it was, i will be happy. wont judge SI too harsh for their fm25 slip, still believe theyre trying their best but couldnt handle the transition to the engine in time

[@saltybfm]

@@alexhoe5684Oh yeah agreed, anyone that says it was good is a liar or has never played it 😂 It’s been one of the top requests to improve for years though. SI’s nuclear option of just removing it after years of it being substandard is potentially the right thing to do, but that’s only because they didn’t fix the problem sooner, so no real sympathy from me for them getting grief on that front

[@TheBake1986]

I don’t play international management but I’m frustrated by its removal simply because rather than fix something they’ve just removed it. It blows my mind that you won’t be able to manage a country on a football management game in 2025 when games in the 90’s allowed it

[@Nasiulciaa]

Nobody plays international management not because they dont want to, but its because international management is just so tedious. I wanted to play a build a nation save with Estonia and the national team, but it is just way too broken. The same 5 dialogues recycled over and over again, you have to hand-pick all 23 players because the automatic recommendation just picks players with 0 match sharpness. Then players always arrived in the national team tired from their last club game and I couldn't even manage their fitness. Combine that with the awful thing the game has where way too often you can have a left-back completely unable to play left wing-back position, which makes it impossible to fit some players in, despite the fact they are good enough to play. In your clubs you can retrain players (and fullbacks for example can take like a few months max to be able to play wingback), but in international management you have no options at all. Whenever the international games came about I would just holiday through the game as I didn't wanna bother anymore. I ended up creating a new unsackable manager, putting a not-trash not-broken tactic and just having them go on a permanent holiday so that the national games are actually simmed and not just resolved based on reputation.

[@Clukegriffin]

I was surprised they pretty much glossed over that and defaulted to the 'no-one really cares' position from it. Even if the 5% stat is accurate (and not taking into account people who opened it to get the steam cards etc) it's a good chunk of people who are actively annoyed enough about SI's overall treatment of it to vote in a poll

[@Lawless411]

The longer the silence goes on from SI, the bigger they will have to deliver when it comes time to present the game. Hoping they are sitting on something great and not just pushing out the date of dissapointment

[@TottenhamEz]

I genuinely feel like the womens side of the game being in fm would have got less hate if they maybe held off on it for a year and fixed international management first but who knows

[@nicktankard1244]

Some FM content creators keep saying that adding women’s football is the same as adding other men’s leagues. As a software dev with 15 years of experience I’m sure it’s not as trivial as that. At least if they tried to do it right and made the women’s game reflect the real-life differences in the engine. I bet they spent significant resources on doing that, which caused delays and feature removals. Nobody knows how complicated it was to add all that, but it definitely added more work for the whole team. So, given that lots of people are upset that women’s football is being added to the detriment of the main game. A feature that they don’t want in the first place causing problems for the main game is a solid argument. Personally, I totally support adding women’s football, even if only a small percentage of people will play it. FM should be a game for everyone. But that said, I want a solid, fully-featured game of men’s football first.

[@taylorjames14]

It's obviously been more work than they thought it would be and the game is gonna be terrible that's why no gameplay yet 😂

[@PasOdMater]

Gotta love the way Clayts says Omega. Like he says here's my friend, Amiga Luke.

[@Clayts]

James Bond pronounces it the way I do (oh-mee-gah) so I’m going with that.

[@PasOdMater]

@@Clayts Which one?

[@gianfrancoguevara5636]

@@PasOdMater Bond, James Bond.

[@TheGibShow]

Great job guys. An honest conversation about the concerns most are having and I think yous nailed it

[@businessasusual2738]

I’m surprised that you both are positively surprised by the excitement stat. If 34% of people that see an FM streamers poll aren’t excited for a generational upgrade game that’s a problem!!

[@stefanb.6468]

Great commentary on the results and a fairly objective stance, I liked that a lot. What was not covered so well, in my opinion, was the topic about the weight stat. The reason I feel annoyed for example has very little to do with the stat itself, but rather with the reason of why it was removed. Basically they are compromising the game experience for the addition of a new feature, and might do so in a much more relevant way in other parts of the game, like the match engine itself. I get a similar feeling when learning about what compromises have been made / are likely to be made to carter to the console playing experience. If the UI features are being developed separately for each platform, the worst thing is having less ressources for each, but at least they are optimizing for each platform, instead of making compromises left and right. How many games have been ruined in the past by the transition from PC to Console, even way back. And how many games (and other media) have been degraded because of features implemented out of political reasons - that's what is "bothering" me with the seemingly little thing of removing the weight stat. Anyway, I am hopeful for the new FM and looking forward to how big of an impact all the different player attributes are going to make in the new match engine. Hopefully we will be able to see the difference between a 10 and 15 in passing, dribbling and so on.

[@alexwallach7683]

On the pre-order thing. If you look at steam stats for FM22,23,24, there aren't that many pre-orders generally. User numbers sit 10-20k mark during that period. Interestingly, user nunbers overall don't seem to peak until after christmas around late December, January. Numbers stay fairly stable until October of said year when they drop off a cliff down to about 5k active users. 🤔

[@NatDoa]

Thank you both for putting the effort for this video. One thing I feel like needs mentioning is that people who are subbed to you Clayts or OmegaLuke are not casual players. Casual players don't watch youtube videos or find reddit posts etc, they just see the game and buy it. So I'd argue, your survey candidates are not in the "majority of FM players" group

[@Clayts]

I feel like that was definitely something we did say quite a lot, exactly that in fact 😂

[@andrewsquires9134]

Casual player here...I have 2 kids and can't spend hours playing FM! Currently playing vicariously via @lokidoki!

[@NatDoa]

I'm still watching the video@@Clayts , my apologies since I must've missed it! :D

[@Clayts]

@NatDoa haha all good! You raise a valid point, I agree!

[@jagerxone4155]

In terms of the polls, there should have been an option of I will only play it as it's on the Xbox game pass. I think a percentage will be that.

[@dudewhateverish]

I'm happy they are making fundamental changes to the game because so far we've bought a reskin of the same concept for ages. I hope they get it right

[@MrGonetopot]

The pre orders might be the general feeling towards gaming companies over the last couple of years. People are tired of playing alpha/Beta stages whilst being charged for a completed game.

[@Airwane]

May be this was their marketing strategy have you talk about so munch that when it launches we will all be blown away

[@ron5991]

International Management:- Many play it as BOTH a club and International manager eg Valduz AND Lietchtenstien, so don't have the clicking weeks without anything happening! I do and was promised I could continue my save onto FM25 I HAVE BEEN LIED TO AND LET DOWN. It was suggested only a small percentage of players ever played it! It appears to be about the same percentage as are looking forward to women's football. Data which I used WEIGHT to assess which CB would likely be more able to muscle a forward off of the ball, has been dropped as it might offend! Ridicules How does women's boxing have weight categories!!! And yes I agree that the advertising of FM25 is very very poor.

[@elriano1]

Since FM24 was available on Xbox Game Pass it's also very likely that many casuals downloaded it for free to try it, played one or two seasons, and then never touched it again. Basing key decisions as they have done on stats from FM24 has clearly skewed the data. Everybody can see that the opportunity cost of adding women's football would have been better utilized by adding back international management. As most companies do these days, SI has probably prioritised adding women's football as a way to label anyone unhappy with the fact that FM25 is shaping up to be a straight downgrade on FM24 as "misogynistic" as a pathetic defence to justify releasing a half-baked, beta version of the new FM.

[@jigajiga]

I'm still having fun with fm23. I didn't see a reason to buy fm24 and now after what they showed with fm25 I don't see any further investment. fm23 is still being updated, people are still updating the database and adding new things and there is no big, huge difference between fm23 24 and I suspect there won't be between fm 25 either. It's still the same game and you can transfer mods from one version to another. this is an investment for the naive 🙄

[@alliedatheistalliance6776]

I'm really excited for it, personally. I fully expect it to be a step back in terms of gameplay, features and maybe even graphics, but it's the start of a new era and I honestly believe in the long run this is the way to go. We need to keep supporting them, although I get people love an internet outrage as well.

[@meowwww9275]

Staying positive and hoping the match engine looks good but it makes no sense for them to hold back footage if it looks good because they know it would be great for marketing and fan service so they literally have no reason other than it wouldn't sell it. Them dropping the pre-order before we even get a screenshot also seems to back up that they know the engine isnt going to sell this game. Maybe it is just a few tweaks away from being good, so my fingers are crossed.

[@meowwww9275]

You should have had an option for "I never pre-order games" in the pre-order question, that is my personal opinion anyway.

[@justinjones7604]

Not me still playing my fm23 save just cuz I love the system ive builds

[@bill_benjamin]

I play on 2D on my toaster laptop so my biggest desired improvements for the new game are really simple. Better newgen faces and better AI interactions.

[@ys053rious6]

I pre-ordered mine yesterday, the wife buys me it every year as either a late bday prezzie or early Christmas prezzie so I'm quite excited despite not knowing anything really about the game with the limited info! I think we shall all be quite surprised despite some of the features being cut

[@pangrrr]

It must suck for you guys; if the game is shite, your viewer count will go down...

[@NJTRAF]

I think that, for me personally after 31 years or so playing Championship Manager/Football Manager, this is the first one I’ve felt any kind of trepidation or hesitation for. From CM93 onwards, I’ve been excited and anticipating every single release, but with FM25 with 2 years or so of development behind it as FM24 was essentially just an update and reskin of FM23, and delays, lack of information, no beta etc. it’s got me worrying they’ve dropped the ball on this one. Now, I’m not saying they won’t recover it for FM26, but I have a gut feeling that 25 is going to be problematic and they’ll fix it for 26, so 25 will end up being kind of a write off, but I hope I’m wrong. I’m firmly in the “Undecided” category. Like Luke said here, FM24 is still enjoyable, still fun, there are transfer updates etc available to download that would carry me over to FM26 if FM25 is problematic, but I’m 100% not buying it on release! I generally tend not to buy FM until after Christmas these days as it gives 8 weeks or so usually for any bugs or issues to be patched out

[@Touchpadse]

This will be the first FM in I don't even know how many years that I will not pre order (unless they release something unexpected). I'm cautiously hoping for this game to be great, I'm really worried though

[@n47eem]

Zealand did say dont buy the game lol (Technically, don't pre-order) 25:43

[@stooshm34]

Good stuff, follow and watch a lot of FM content creators and I have for a long time, Been on football manager I would say since 2007 (I was always LMA) Moved to fm console a couple years ago when my laptop was becoming such a struggle with every release I don’t have the affordability to have a laptop & a console, I have a console and I am definitley not a “casual” Almost a snobbyness comes from laptop players for console players, who invest a lot of time and love the game just as much! I loved the face packs and logos packs and would love to have an amazing computer that lets me do that, but I am hopeful fm console comes out well with this release. Again a bit of a long winded comment based on the console is “casual” makes it a little bit harder when I enjoy both your contents

[@apjsard1]

I don't understand why people are so down about it. It's gonna be new and different.

[@braxton9192]

I'll give you a rundown of why people are down on the game since maybe you live under a rock: -Lack of news about the Match Engine other than the fact it's running on unity -Removal of features -Lack of news of new features -No early access/beta while still asking for pre-orders -the game is delayed -horrible marketing decisions Yes the game will be new and different but the worry is that it isn't gonna be a good game... Personally I think it's gonna take them a few cycles before they get it right... But man I didn't expect them to be fumbling around like this... You have one man dev teams for indie games that are better at communicating and marketing their game with no budget

[@bakkedbakkon]

how and why? SI isn't even confident to showcase their work 😢

[@nicktankard1244]

Having no in-game footage or any news about the features less than 2 months before the release is almost never good

[@FlyingwithFire]

new and different doesnt mean good

[@taylorjames14]

FM24 the best and most complete FM game had bugs, this one might not even be playable 😂

[@JonnyAndreHenningsen]

Japan's J1 League, the viewership typically averages around 6 to 7 million weekly viewers across various broadcast platforms, primarily driven by a strong domestic fanbase and growing international interest, In contrast, the English Women's Super League has been seeing a steady rise in viewership, with weekly matches sometimes surpassing 500,000 viewers on major broadcasts like BBC and Sky Sports, This is why adding the Japanese league can bring them a lot more players for their game than adding any female league. Just because we in Europe don’t care about the Japanese league doesn’t mean that there aren’t a lot of people who do. Numbers don’t lie

[@bigandynorton1964]

It all seems very half hearted. SI don't seem as interested as they want us to be. It feels like our love for the game is taken for granted to a certain degree.

[@coyootje]

It's nice to think positive and hope that they're purposefully holding back the amazing improvements to generate more hype but from a marketing perspective I feel like it wouldn't make much sense to do that, especially once you see people's overall reaction being a bit mediocre. Why not change up the roadmap as soon as you see this and put the big feature (graphics) first? I know we're talking about Miles and SI here but why shoot yourself in the foot so bad by doing it the way they're doing it now?

[@reddwarf63]

I think SI should have made the womens game as a seperate entity like when you had the main game and FM touch

[@gw7120]

Im playing fm 24 right now , im in the year 2040 with everton lol , i see no need for a new match engine , i like the current graphics and interface , i will not play womens football because i dont know a single player ,no disrespect , and i like when my players get selected for intl matches and win world cup or euro league , it just adds to the lore of fm , fm25 has me not interested at all.

[@ashleyw6728]

International games will still happen you just can't manage them

[@rossyboy1980]

36% feeling negatively about international football being removed compared to 7% being excited for the addition of Women's Football might be minorly concerning.

[@FraseThatPlays]

I'm a PC player (laptop) and for years FM has been the only game I have installed. I have a console and no interest in playing FM on it.

[@matty12776]

I feel like they should have just done another game on the old engine and then that gives them another year to polish everything out and not remove features

[@salexa171]

I think it’s funny and understandable btw when creators act like concerned employees. And in a funny way they kind of are. I’ve felt exactly like these guys at work when a product or a system isn’t working or ready, yet we’re expected to carry on. You feel let down by the powers that be and are just looking for assurances they know what they’re doing.

[@donatedpizza]

Bro they havent even started updating the road map 😭 "Introducing Women's Football Unlocks 7 Oct"

[@The-Marinho]

It says "Unlocks week of 7 Oct" so they have a few days left

[@nicktankard1244]

also that announcement being before anything in the game itself is weird. What are they going to show? Just talk about stuff in text and maybe show a video with some fancy animations not related to the game?

[@silviu-lucastanciu609]

I loved the video. Both you and Luke are fantastic!

[@StewartyMac]

I'm from an era when there was little to no promotion for new titles apart from the odd advert in a games magazine, so I don't really care about when they choose to show off the new game. In fact, I wouldn't care if there wasn't any promotion for it, because it makes sod all difference. You're either going to like the game when it comes out or you're not. There will be plenty of gameplay videos, streams and reviews after launch, so if you're wary about buying it, wait for those. It's not going to sell out in a couple of days. I can't be bothered with this overwhelming entitlement to know everything about it before it's released. But I suppose that's how the industry is these days. And before I get the 'but SI expect you to pre-order based on nothing' line - NO, they don't. They give you the option to pre-order. Overall sales figures is what matters to them, not how many people pre-order beforehand. People need to just chill and wait for what comes out. At the end of the day, it's hardly life of death.

[@XpertPetar]

The thing I'm worried about is the player faces in the match engine. If it is like Fifa they had faces for the more popular players for more then a decade. And my worry is FM will not have 1 real face which I'm ok with but I think they wont even look close to the real life players.

[@burningstars4704]

75 percent of people who say they aint gonna buy it, Will have atleast 300 hours invested before Jan25.

[@robertperring4194]

It's your income they are playing with. My choice is simple, to buy or not buy. At the moment, I haven't seen anything, so I am not buying. You guys are doing this to put food on your table. If I were in that situation, I'd be looking at options.

[@superfrank2684]

regarding the "no" on the preordering question, there is a big "never preorder" movement on the internet. I will most likely buy FM25, but i NEVER preorder any game.

[@Adi-R_Singh89]

Do a versus rebuild against each other 👍

[@VillainActual]

Removing weight ruins my immersion.... Mainly cause if I have a Center Forward that is 6'7 350 pounds... He will be known as THE UNIT... If he's just 6'7... he's Peter Crouch. Pre-Ordering has been ruined by other developers, I don't pre-order anything anymore... It's not an FM thing, it's a thieving video game industry thing. The 11.1% of the people who hate the inclusion of women's football clearly were not hugged enough as children, and should probably be on a watchlist. Also a question for you... In an era where iPhones are more universal than clean drinking water... Why does every player not have a picture?

[@manephewlenny6401]

They need to remove from Miles Jacobsen from all future promo cycles, it's like having your pissed-up bitter grandad fronting your worldwide promo campaign.

[@aidengallagher6681]

I fully agree with both of you being a bit disappointed by the announcements. But I've found one thing I've always been a fan of from SI is that they never overpromise the game unlike 99% of games these days. I think either way it's going to be a good game, just not what people think is possible. Plus it can't be as bad as EAFC is this year

[@midimanify]

Interesting discussion and vid lads

[@grantg419]

Bought every game over the past 10 years. at this stage, I don't know if I will be getting FM25 need to see a lot more from SI

[@ianbanks3016]

The way people vote and what they do with their wallets are two very different things, so can't read too much into polls like these.

[@mw56101]

Surely everyone is trying to get to the match day but there's admin to do...

[@thdgoesutube]

I've bought the game the day it came out. I trust the makers of the game and I'm gonna wait with my opion. I can understand the general feeling because of the lack of content shared about FM25 but still I trust the makers.

[@TheBake1986]

I’m not surprised by the console results. I got FM for free on PS+ and after a few hours found it unplayable. Something as simple as substituting a player or changing formation took way too many steps. I’m yet to be convinced FM will ever work on controller.

[@anardi7112]

"I know female women footballers."

[@robertswaine2673]

Not once has a new match engine been announced . just a new graphics engine

[@coyootje]

42:54 - Regarding your point about the women's football feature being data-only: didn't they say that they also had to go in and create a whole bunch of new women's football specific animations? Not saying it's not gonna be worth it but it definitely sounds like a bit more than just data, especially given how they've been working on it for a seemingly long time already (announcement somewhere in 2023 I believe?)

[@TechnicalDirectorFM]

I don’t know why this has popped into my head, but I’d love to know if you could start in women’s football, move to men’s, but then have say Lauren Hemp, retire and you can hire as a coach? I think it’s a cool option to have

[@syncopaint_minis3016]

Bit odd that people criticise the game even though no one has seen any reveals on it yet. I for one am still getting it and will enjoy playing football manager as i do every year. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@mikeavina168]

Xbox console player, … I’ve been playing 24 on pass this season. But I literally bought the whole 24 game just yesterday so fm can’t force me to switch to 25 via the pass. ❤ I’m staying on 24 this year until the whole game comes out even it that’s 26.

[@jobin118]

I only buy the latest fm once my existing save is finished. I bought fm24 only after I finished my fm21 save and I’m yet to finish my save on fm24. FM for me is my me time, so I don’t actually need to buy the latest but I watch all the videos on them on YT.

[@mancstamanify]

If your worried of the game go back to to 2007 with number dots for match engine

[@josephotoole5331]

I had a poor PC when I first started back with football manager upgrade twice last time to a gaming PC could never play on console. Literally got a laptop to play the game. I'll buy it every year. This year I've a feeling we going to be surprised or that's my hope

[@josephotoole5331]

With woman's football it's something I've no experience in although as a United fan I've started as they are better than the men team so I may give it a shot

[@garybamber4063]

There needs to be a good enough reason to upgrade from FM24. At the moment I can’t see it and I upgrade every year.

[@anthonyguiness9]

I'll never understand why video game trailers and adverts don't show gameplay, it just makes them irrelevant. FC25's was awful until they cut out the parts with no relevance and FM25's was completely pointless and a waste of money, apart from the barely visible screenshots of gameplay

[@T00NZY]

I play fm on console is it available to pre order on PC yet ?

[@elriano1]

Let's be honest with each other - ensuring that the game meets minimum-viable product and releases without any delays should have been far more important than the opportunity cost wasted on adding women's football which nobody cares about, yet here we are... The senior management at Sports Interactive is either incompetent or out-of-touch, probably both at this point...

[@StingerNeilD]

Couple o Goats here

[@theduggs1949]

I will give si the benefit of doubt. As they don't let us down.

[@jamessaltlife]

I hate to say it, but I think I’m going to enjoy the new game. If it’s simpler to play and the in-game graphics are more realistic, it will give me total club manager 2003 vibes, and a lower barrier to entry for less statistically-minded people like myself. I totally get how this would be a downgrade for more seasoned players.

[@TottenhamEz]

I think the game will be a very good first entry into unity, although I'm please they have put women's football in the game as that's where I plan to start before going on to the men's game and although I'm sure it has nothing to do with it but I would rather have had international management. I like to take u21 international jobs and build the national team for when I eventually take the main job. I will still pre order the game as I do every year

[@marcusaurelius1659]

The money is in the casual market so I have a horrible feeling they are aiming towards that market. I'm afraid us hardcore players will be kind of not bothered with imo.

[@slemsman2002]

I've been playing FM/CM since the 93/94 season - bought it every year - but I've never pre-ordered. I don't think you can pre-order any game these days as they are all a buggy mess and FM is no different. I buy it around Christmas when it's had several months of community playtests to iron out the wrinkles and some additional content skins etc. have come out to make it more of a looker. I don't like that SI are removing any features not because I study players' weight before I sign them or because I play a lot of international football (though I do enjoy a save with a club/country combo in the same small country acting as almost a feeder club to the national team) but because it just feels like a backward step and one that they are introducing because they have to commit resources elsewhere because the rest of the game is perhaps in trouble. I'd also say for many that's how they feel about women's football being included - if the rest of the game was fine and wasn't delayed/in trouble then there would be far less comment (there would always be some) but because the rest of the game seems in trouble people are annoyed that resources have been put into women's football rather than fixing/optimizing the rest of the game.

[@andreanecchi5930]

I will buy it anyway, because FM is one of the few games that I can play on my laptop and it is one of the ones with which I have the most fun, I just hope that the game is decent, women's football I admit I will never play it, but for those who are happy to play it, better for them

[@andycoulter8619]

Same, it's what i do on my breaks at work. I'm guessing next to nobody will care about the womens game.

[@Geo-nw9ug]

PERFECT COLLAB

[@josephotoole5331]

My PC plays fifa fine, so I'm good. I've spent a decent amount on a gaming laptop. Because I wanted to load more leagues hell I love paying watch dogs on my laptop or new pes

[@MichaelKennedytubez]

Not against the introduction of women’s footy, however I feel that SI have bitten off more than they can chew. Overall, I hope the game is good been playing since fm10 and love the game

[@konfuchie357]

How can you have an opinion on a game that you only know by 3 screenshots?

[@neilproctor5163]

This is all going the same way as another game i had been looking forward too a few months ago - Cities Skylines 2!

[@footballmanagerer4362]

I always seem to fall into some kind of minority when it comes to FM😅Why is Touch not getting much attention from you full time guys?? Console is not the only non-mobile or non-PC users.

[@marcnoone7719]

Luke , i have a PS1... will it run FM25 ?

[@Jpcraque]

So in conclusion..... FM is going to move away from being EXCEL DLC FOOTBALL SIMULATOR to GENERIC FOOTBALL MOBILE GAME on unity..... Did i got that 1 right????

[@anardi7112]

i think there is a big difference that no one is talking about between the hardcoer and the casuals and it makes no sense to me that the argument and feelings on both sides of the coin are running hot. its been proven and you can look this up that no one is making casuals sign up to side plus and if someone wants more ethan in their life and are going to pay actual money for it thats hardcore to me and i bet hardcore to most of you to. no one is making you pay anyone any money ok?

[@Rickus316]

I think people are going to be disappointed with the “new graphics” and newgens - the match engine for fm 24 was pretty good overall but I think people are expecting huge improvements and I really don’t think there will be I felt the screen shots (even though they say could change) they’ve realised looked too developed for console and mobile. On a personal level I have no interest in the women’s game on fm and I feel they have spent unnecessary funds on it but I don’t have to play it however they could’ve spent those funds on improvements in other areas eg on international management I reckon that this FM is going to have some major issues, bugs etc but probably won’t be fixed until after the January window patch

[@kostadinbodurov7430]

People are negative couse of the years of lies and overpricing little to no content... so it could be great... but its not very likely.

[@andymanser2523]

I don't hate women's football being in the game. It's going to be a database I won't load in like some leagues I don't load up. I'm just worried the game will be a buggy mess, the fact there is a new match engine and we haven't seen it, SI should be singing from the rooftops about that but they aren't. I'm worried about what this is going to look like, I can see sells tanking for the game which I don't want to see. Even though I don't want to see that, I'm not getting this years game.

[@shasy89]

The way I feel is just… I would rather have had a reinvented international manager mode than women’s football added this year, I have nothing against the women being added, sure it could be fun, but I just feel like I whould have more fun with international football than women’s football 😅

[@Clayts]

But why have you decided women’s football is the cause and not say… a new engine, or new interface? This makes it sound like you sort of do have something against women’s football. Even if you don’t..

[@shasy89]

@@Clayts no no ofc it can be other reasons but what they talked about so far as new things it’s women’s football and a new engine and I understand that it’s probably the engine that’s the reason but if they just announce that women’s football is they new thing it just felt like that was a downgrade for me

[@shasy89]

@@Clayts they could have just pushed the new engine one more year and add women’s football to fm24,5 for a year

[@MADCHELLO]

I never been less excited about a new FM in my life. I play this game for the last 14 years and this one looks shit

[@mw56101]

I just hope they don't start spamming the news feed with confusing women's football headlines like the BBC do. Arsenal sign Smith, oh who's that, never mind it's the women's game....

[@sicklemie5248]

has the match engine been shown yet atall?

[@Rickus316]

No not until the end of October earliest according to their road map

[@Gamerbox89]

not in my name! i already pre-ordered

[@thdgoesutube]

same !

[@yohanestekad]

count me in too

[@chingman999]

Have they not invited you two play the game first?

[@rosshughes7977]

I think the issue with womens football is are you going to have it forced on you or not take fc24 for example the women are rated better than the men making it a bit weird and give you the feeling that your being forced to play something that doesnt interest you. If implemented properly the same with every new addition its great and will add to the game but saying they are removing weight because of womens football just screams out we are going to be focusing on peoples feelings over the stats that we all play this game for. Fingers crossed this isnt a direction they are going down and they dont lose focus on what makes fm such a good game.

[@EverGameStudios]

is it just me or did you use a Insulin pump for the thumbnail of this video?

[@Clayts]

What does that even mean

[@EverGameStudios]

@@Clayts ​ in the picture, between you and the other guy where you have the poll, it looks exactly like a T-slim x2 insulin pump, shape and edges wise.

[@EverGameStudios]

@@Clayts btw, anyone ever told you, you look like the actor Ryan Eggold from the black list?

[@taylorjames14]

If you're not into women's football there's no point getting it, clearly it's a broken game and the only good thing about it is that they added women's football that's why they're promoting that so much

[@scottishjp5082]

I use to play on pc all my life i then moved to consoles when pc became to expensive to upgrade console version of fm is not as fun as pc as you can't get an editor to mix things up you can't talk to players and deal with the feelings of players so on there is no limits to who and what you can sign there no player registrations console feels like a scam and we just got touch version

[@StimulusShortsYT]

Agreed