Your Smart Home Without An Internet Connection

[@chipgoon]

Home Assistant with Aeon zwave stick. No Internet, no problem. And, it's open source

[@AutomateYourLife]

Yeah, I didn't mind how Philips or SmartThings responded here either.

[@robertbradbury6962]

Should be titled, "what happens when you forget to pay your internet bill."

[@AutomateYourLife]

Lol, see now I should have asked you guys what to name it!

[@servant74]

My power company is my ISP! Yea, not paying that bill would leave me high and dry!

[@AutomateYourLife]

ooooooooh boy

[@RaymondLohengrin]

@@AutomateYourLife Not really. Using wifi devices without internet could be very useful. I have a farm house where I don't have internet connection other than my phone and I was looking into using smart switches by just connecting to a router that doesn't have internet connection all the time or ever as I have used other devices. Also if there is a power shortage or Internet problems and you still have a power generator your devices lights switches would not work if they require internet connection, Not good!

[@guywithjeep]

You know internet services go out even when the bills paid right?

[@XboxStickey]

Zigbee and Zwave 4life! I think the only device I even need internet for is my ring doorbell. Other than that I dont even need wifi (running Homeassistant).

[@AutomateYourLife]

Lots of folks loving HomeAssistant

[@McCuneWindandSolar]

I like to find something that can still work with my Google crap even when the internet is down. I can always put a server in on my home lab, so the google will go though that and it will pretty much copy what the internet will do just at the server. IE when I ask google stuff it will first look at the server and if the info is not there then use the internet. But be able to control every thing in the home with out the need of the internet, and only need the internet for crap like weather and other crap or control outside of my network. Not only that I want more security. The google crap is very very unsecured any one that comes in my home can use it. I only want to give people that live in the home access to the Google stuff, all others will be denied access. IE with a server in my network I can put on a complete different network for security. Like my security cameras they are on a different network, and I have Wifi set up were if some one is over and want to use the internet. I have Wife just for them they have not access to any other network other than the internet. Good needs to put out a server software that can be install on either a computer or my case a server that can handle tasks with out the internet.

[@kevinsono]

Really? I'm annoyed with my home assistant because as soon as I I decided to test it by unplugging turning off my internet service provider it completely stopped working and all my devices connected to it stopped working as well. How'd you get past this issue?

[@hometechUK]

Great video thanks. It's terrible that Google home & Alexa cannot do anything. You should still be able to ask "what's the time", "what's the date", "what's the weather" even without the weather. They should store some of the basic questions.

[@AutomateYourLife]

I agree you should be able to do some things and at least ask basic questions. That means a smaller version of the assistant has to be available locally on the device.

[@mikeace7793]

you really good at teaching cos i watched the whole video and i already knew everything you talked about, most videos loose me at 60sec

[@AutomateYourLife]

Oh well thank you! This is fairly old now too!

[@Aerox90]

The only thing I would need an internet-connection for - is using a web browser. I really don't need the lightbulbs in my bathroom to be Googling around on some globally connected cyber-net everytime I forgot to switch them off after I've posted some REAL WORLD shi...😶 ...well, you get my point! 😆 Nah... I want one network dedicated for devices that actually USE the internet (which is...ONE device..) and a second fully LOCAL wifi-network, hosted seperately on it's own hardware, to wirelessly connect, controll and automate everything else inside my OWN PRIVATE HOME! 🤦‍♂️

[@AutomateYourLife]

Sounds like a great setup there!

[@VVeMoveForward]

This is what I'm looking to do too. Any tips Edit: not because of privacy but because my fastest speeds are 6mbps and I need that speed for actually intensive things

[@igorfomenko9189]

Sonoff has wifi and zegbee devices and both work wo internet, it is their LAN mode. Unfortunately, loop timers still don't work via LAN.

[@AutomateYourLife]

Still pretty good like you said!

[@RonnyW]

Hi! What a GREAT channel you have! I am currently renovating an RV into a wheelchair-accessible RV so that people with disabilities can have access to the great outdoors. I really want it to be a smart-home RV so that people without the ability to use their hands can easily use the electronics in the RV. The problem is that it needs to work without an internet connection. Can you recommend what the best system would be to use?

[@AutomateYourLife]

That's a really great project and we'll be happy to see when it's done! The problem for you will be that if they can't use their hands, then they can't trigger much without a voice assistant. What method would you want to control with and then what are you hoping to control in terms of electronics in the RV?

[@RonnyW]

@@AutomateYourLife More or less:

[@robertsivonjic5080]

How is the RV going?

[@bernardbredhauer1484]

Good demo Brian, I think most people would go crazy if the internet went for a long period of time.

[@AutomateYourLife]

I know I did!

[@TheJakeRobinson]

so, I have a Shark vac robot that has an app + wifi - I do not have internet access at my home. Can I set up a typical WiFi set up so my phone can control/access the vac robot app? Thanks

[@AutomateYourLife]

I don't have a shark vac myself Jake, so I can't tell you this one specifically.

[@watsonfitnessmiami]

Sounds like what happens when you don’t let big brother have access to your home.

[@servant74]

I was thinking that having a router (or hub?) that could do optional blue-tooth paring to allow a smart phone to provide an internet connection for security and home-automation purposes only would be great, even without having the phone be a full fledged 'internet' feed. ... Just my blue-sky thoughts!

[@AutomateYourLife]

Definitely a secondary connection is a good idea. Some routers have dual connections, but most of them are going to be based on the same backbone in the end. If the internet truly goes down...none of this stuff will work.

[@BlackCountryVlogger]

Wasn't sure where to put this but this weekend Continued Conversation is working in the UK with the UK Google Assistant so don't have to switch to Google(US) if you don't want to 😁

[@mlixelplix]

As always Brian, great and informative video. I can now see why Thread was developed. I cannot wait to see how that protocol will change the way we access our smart homes when critical components like the internet are down.

[@AutomateYourLife]

I think it’ll help a ton! I also think dual connections and other less net-reliant tech will help us too!

[@FirstNameLastName-okayyoutube]

It is not Authentication exclusively. If the items is stolen, it I could still get used by somebody else. It happens all the time. So its a matter of data collection or ignorance in design.

[@khurram41]

That's good, I don't want to pay internet connection but want a smart home so best way is to go ZigBee based devices. Isn't it?

[@AutomateYourLife]

ZigBee or Z-Wave, and a hub that can work without internet like home assistant

[@jon325]

Great info and video/channel, I've subbed - maybe I missed it somewhere in your explanation, but people should know their good ol' standard light switches (assuming they still have them intact) will still work to turn most, if not all smart lights on/off, of course, even though wifi and/or internet is not working. This may be obvious to some of us, but maybe not all. Thanks again for the great info!

[@AutomateYourLife]

Great point, and thanks for joining!

[@FirstNameLastName-okayyoutube]

Google docs works without internet.. however it spells " comma " rather than insert the correct punctuation. In fact while traveling sometimes I put on airplane mode so that I get better performance from the voice to text. Im just not sure what next steps are going to look like.

[@abhishekbhagwat2264]

Hi, I want to know what happen if power cuts and come back again will devices turn on automatically or we have to turn it on? For example Philips hue bulb

[@AutomateYourLife]

That’s a complex question, but almost every device will go back to its last state. Especially now with the Philips Hue capability of both power on memory and last state remembering. So what I’m saying is for Philips Hue, it does whatever you want. Most other things stay off.

[@1419-v9y]

Hey, Is your device(Smart plug) turns itself off while internet goes offline?

[@AutomateYourLife]

That's going to depend on your device, but in general no. The device should maintain last state.

[@12q8]

Can you make a video about how to make your home smart without internet?

[@AutomateYourLife]

Easy peasy! You know...I'll add that to the list. This could use a refresh for sure.

[@InvisiblePinkSoylent]

The only real surprise there IMHO is that Smart Thing's user interfaces stop working. They should do better. Vera, Open Hab, etc would be fine. Your Google Chromecast devices can play music from your local network if you're using something like Roon or Bubble UPnP Server W/ a DLNA server and Bubble UPnP Player (or another SMARTHOME speaker compatible app such as Linn's Kazoo). I'm pretty sure that the Google Chromecast Audio is fine in this configuration without a connection. Not so sure about the Home devices. Your wifi switches can be updated to connect to a local MQTT server with the right firmware update. From there you should be able to use your Hub to control those devices via MQTT (though not Samsung Smart Thing's apparently). Mick.

[@AutomateYourLife]

I’ll just say, yep

[@medicos4399]

You mean Internet is needed only for 1st time to connect you phone with mini via bluetooth...after this you need not to connect again and again to internet to use it as a bluetooth speaker... Please Clarify my doubt... And one last doubt, can I play downloaded music and movies (which is in my internal storage) and use google mini as a bluetooth speaker without internet... I hope you will reply... Please clarify my doubts...Thanks

[@AutomateYourLife]

No, internet is needed for Mini's all the time. An Echo Show can be used with internet the 1st time and then BT after.

[@aemam]

Hey bro, what about broadlink mobile app, can we use it offline?

[@AutomateYourLife]

I think so, but it depends on the products you've bought of theirs

[@aemam]

@@AutomateYourLife iam talking about the rm pro, thanks for reply

[@AutomateYourLife]

@@aemam no I don't believe that is local but don't have one to test

[@aemam]

@@AutomateYourLife 😊 thanks

[@KTHKUHNKK]

Hello again Keith Kuhn here. I have a quick question I will get right to the point. I run Windows 10 on my desktop PC. I live in an older house so when it storms I unplugged my PC the AC power that is. Ninety-nine percent of the time when I plug it back in it boots up into Windows 7. Then I have to go into the BIOS and change the boot sequence back into Windows 10. Can you think of any reason it may be doing this. Thanks Keith Kuhn. PS - - Another reason I subscribed is because I see you reply back to your fan base.

[@AutomateYourLife]

Your battery is dying I think. There's a little coin battery on your motherboard. I think.

[@JonathanBaileyn2u]

thank you very much..this is much needed

[@AutomateYourLife]

Happy to help! Thanks!

[@jlealister3352]

Useful information. Thank you.

[@ericsalem3135]

I am running in to an issue. I have cox gigablast internet service and router. There seems to be a 32 device ceiling with their wifi router and they have said they cannot increase it. How are you integrating so many devices. I was thinking to use a Samsung smartthings hub that I have to Connect all the devices that I can on it, so that it will access the router as one device. I haven't tried yet due to lack of time. Most of my devices are wifi connected with only a hub for my sengled bulbs that shows as one device on my router. But I've got 25 gosund light switches on other lights that do not have a hub and are individually connected to the router. Is it possible to connect these wifi switches to the smart things hub and in turn connect the SmartThings hub to the router so that only one device will connect to the router instead of 26?

[@AutomateYourLife]

Hi Eric - You need this video, and yes, SmartThings helps with ZigBee/Z-Wave devices but not WiFi! kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6fapX2Pd86ci68

[@shariscott9538]

All this info is soo great... however this monotone " itchy dry eyes" commercial dull sound is putting me to sleep! Just bring a little more dynamic in your voice, the info is great

[@AutomateYourLife]

Ahahahhaa, yeah we've been working on it lately. :)

[@FirstNameLastName-okayyoutube]

I have wifi internet via a hotspot and a local broadband wifi service, which means i dont have direct access to a router. which means some devices do not work even tho i have internet and wifi.. It is not reasonable, so i bought a router and am attempting to make a local, non internet, setup.

[@luabpj1234]

We’ve moved into a smarthome rental property. We don’t have a home assistant, and we don’t want one. As a renter, we’ve purchased our own wifi service, to access the internet. Since it’s a smarthome...is the property still connected to the internet? I don’t understand how this works.

[@AutomateYourLife]

It depends on what they've used. Likely there's a connection of some kind but it could be a cell connection.

[@marvinc88]

Very usefull video. Thanks.

[@firozjedi]

Is it possible to control all smart home devices with one app without internet or through LAN network

[@AutomateYourLife]

Sure, home assistant :) There are a few hubs that will let you do that too now. Hubitat is a good, medium level difficulty hub.

[@michaelcurrier721]

im having a problem with my smartlife app. im trying to set up sensors but it won't connect to the smartlife wifi. I can't get it to connect because when I go into my wifi and tap smartlife its saying its unsecured and it won't connect like a wifi signal. so my device isn't connecting. how do i get the smartlife wifi to connect so I can connect the device? im not sure how to explain it exactly but I hope u can understand what I'm saying. thanks in advance if u can help me.

[@AutomateYourLife]

I'm sorry Michael - pretty hard to diagnose and fix for you remotely like this. Actually, basically impossible. :)

[@michaelcurrier721]

I did finally get it. but yes I agree. my wording is most likely impossible to understand. thanks for replying though.

[@Shadow43Fox]

The wifi light colour changing light I have is offline despite it's the same mobile sane everything. The internet is down though. I can't disconnect it because it's the "same device"

[@rcarioca]

not being dead means adding storage and price increases to the device

[@JOHN-322]

Brain can you help me please. My reminders on my tablet for my Google assistant is not working. And the reminders are not listed of my iPhone what can I do. Thank you for your help

[@AutomateYourLife]

Hey...so this is a bug right now. Make sure you Google app is updated as much as is possible (although that’s only supposed to be important on Android), but it’s an actual bug and Google is working on it. I had mine start to partially work again.

[@JOHN-322]

Thank you

[@highlite762]

Can you use the wyze plug without the wifi?

[@AutomateYourLife]

Nope. That one requires it.

[@markmayes6817]

Is there a way to connect wifi cameras "without" an internet connection?

[@AutomateYourLife]

That's going to depend on the maker. Have a look at the ones from Eufy, or maybe you just want to go a full CCTV type of route

[@georgegeorge899]

The idea is to keep us depending on internet !

[@AaronCunningham]

HomeKit FTW!!

[@AutomateYourLife]

Ahahahahaha

[@JOHN-322]

Thanks for the information. Have a good day.

[@AutomateYourLife]

Thanks J!

[@moses777exodus]

Very informative. Much Blessings to you. Thanks for sharing, Lord-Jesus-Christ dot

[@AutomateYourLife]

You are so welcome!

[@FirstNameLastName-okayyoutube]

I am attempting to get a home security cameras that does not require internet... it is tough. It should not be. Imagine your cardoors not working because your car is out of fuel.

[@tomm856]

No Google in the house - it's bad enough to have it on the phone.

[@ronm6585]

Thanks Brian.

[@jimmyspartacus6]

great vid mate

[@AutomateYourLife]

Thank you sir!

[@jimmyspartacus6]

@@AutomateYourLife continued conversation is working in uk friend get new feature

[@McCuneWindandSolar]

I used to have smart lights ect connect to my google home nest ect. but anything the internet goes down I lose all control. so the lights went a way. and I don't even use the google stuff anymore for hardly anything. the lights got removed. I just now control my thermostat, and other devices with their apps that can connect locally. I'm thinking of selling all my google stuff.

[@CP-kg6ms]

Most of the functions should work offline also. This is a big problem.

[@AutomateYourLife]

Companies continue to make things work more and more without the cloud access, but you’re right!

[@g9ames]

Still on wifi with Phillips Hue without internet? Huh?

[@Brenna_stubbs]

I want to do something similar to this by blocking all of them IP addresses that is to Call Home on all my iot devices and make is to only have access to services that I use and block out the best of the internet

[@AutomateYourLife]

Well you can try and do this! Some devices won't work without access though, so watch that.

[@MurchyMurch]

Slight clarification. HomeKit API disallows products to require cloud access for basic functions. When the HomePod fails that’s Siri failing and not necessarily HomeKit. All voice assistants need graceful fallback to local processing and we’re just not there yet

[@AutomateYourLife]

I agree! Thanks for the clarification on HomeKit API as the reason that happens! I wonder why my bridge died from WeMo then.... Might have to try that again!

[@4468861989]

I hate when products ask for gps location to be turned on, my printer and my babe cam tried doing that

[@AutomateYourLife]

Wait....babe cam??

[@iVue]

What do you mean by turning of the internet and keeping wifi on??? I have my bell router which is also a modem. If I turn off wifi is also turned off.

[@AutomateYourLife]

I just unplugged the cable to the internet :)

[@iVue]

Automate Your Life oh how I miss that got it thanks.

[@AutomateYourLife]

All good! :)

[@basdfgwe]

Didn't you say zwave, ZigBee or something is dead?

[@AutomateYourLife]

I poorly named a video about Zwave :) Neither are truly dead by any means, but I do think there’s something coming that spells trouble for Z-Wave, even with all of its great features.

[@AutomateYourLife]

Actually let me correct that. I poorly named a video about Thread.

[@jasonhatt4295]

Not so Smart now are you Home?

[@AutomateYourLife]

lol

[@StrongOaker]

Its 2021 and my Smart Home devices work great on the home WiFi until internet goes down. It is stupid af I cant turn my lights on/off when the internet is down but the WiFi router is still up. So damn stupid

[@AutomateYourLife]

You need to look deeper in the channel. It can be done, and I do it all the time. :)

[@allabouttechnologyandgaming]

how do I turn off the internet but leave WI-FI on?

[@AutomateYourLife]

That's usually in your settings of your router. You can turn off the connection to your internet provider. It'll depend on the router though what the setting says or looks like

[@allabouttechnologyandgaming]

@@AutomateYourLife Thanks

[@teguhsantoso9820]

is that work for yee light

[@AutomateYourLife]

Yeelight is wifi based, so a loss of that is gone. I couldn’t control mine when the internet was out though either.

[@KTHKUHNKK]

@@AutomateYourLife Hello my friend I just happened to stumble upon your channel. I subscribed because you kind of have what I'm looking for.I hit the bell and will continue to watch many of your videos that are coming out. Keith Kuhn Take a Motion Pictures also on KZbin