Your Stuff Doesn't Look Like This - A Cinematography Breakdown

[@stalman]

Great to see you've got your KZbin content cruising now, the podcast has always been great but the visual breakdown is perfect

[@wanderingdp]

Thanks Tyler! 👍🏼

[@SaurianKing_]

Amazing breakdown. Sometimes its better to see what NOT to do, than to see what you SHOULD do.

[@mribi]

Bradley Kaler agreed!

[@wanderingdp]

that extends to careers as well. An Oscar is in your future if you do the opposite of everything I’ve ever done

[@apollocobain8363]

Another good one. Sooner or later I expect to see "Favorite sheers and curtains" in the affiliate links.

[@giovannigarcia10]

Lol I need one asap! Lmk people. Recommendations?

[@wanderingdp]

Some secrets aren’t for sharing

[@stuartbrereton8378]

Shots like that are not "career ending". They're angles like any other. Not every shot is going to be a masterpiece, and if you spend all your time agonizing about it, you'll never make the day.

[@wanderingdp]

Or you are wrong. Survival bias. Don’t get got

[@stuartbrereton8378]

No idea what that means, but sure.

[@room_threeothree]

@@wanderingdp He aint wrong. Shooting pretty angles may make you a sell out cinematographer that every director wants to collaborate but it doesn't mean that the story will benefit purely by shooting pretty! Cinematography is about feeling, story, emotions not about light setups, candy angles and pretty camera movements.

[@wanderingdp]

@@room_threeothree word salad. Save it for Cannes

[@wanderingdp]

@@stuartbrereton8378 survival bias is the logical error of concentrating on the people or things that made it past some selection process and overlooking those that did not, typically because of their lack of visibility.

[@alex-botton]

I Love how practical your videos are. The viewer finishes each episode with a tool that can be applied on set every time. As long as you keep making these, ill keep watching them! Thanks for everything you do for the cinematography world Patrick! 🙌🏼

[@krosfyah4932]

Great breakdown, humorous makeshift narrative between DP and director / 1st AC always appreciated too lmao 😂 good stuff man

[@AlbowaSinema]

This breakdowns have made me change my style..I now just use the framework in almost all shots. Thanks my shots are now more aesthetically pleasing.

[@davitavye]

Hey men, what do you guys mean when you talk about “the framework"?

[@wanderingdp]

Royalty checks on all future work is always appreciated

[@squirrel7752]

I love how you gave a shout for Romania, as an indoor location shooting. Most of the locations here are cheap and you usually don't have white walls. It also depends where you shoot because in Bucharest (capital) you will find less cool locations then in the other big cities around the country, and I am saying that living in Bucharest. But a "pro" of the capital it is that we have more studios to shoot in then the other cities. If any of you guys want to shoot there an indoor scene I would pick one of these: Timisoara; Cluj; Brasov; or even Bucharest if you want more of a street urban/modern look.

[@redrockweddingfilms]

Your content is seriously great! One of the best resources on youtube for actually learning! Thank you, dude!

[@AndrewMurphyFilms]

It's good to see a side by side framework vs what not to do. Makes it so much easier and quicker to see why not to do it.

[@AfoteyAnnum]

Thank you for this video! As a perpetual student of cinematography, videos like this are a GODSEND!

[@endoftheroadprodutions6598]

"The only difference between a flare and a highlight is in the day rate." Thanks for recognizing the importance of good Art Direction. Composition pertaining to reveals and vanishing points are made or breaks by lighting. Telling a visual story in :15, :30, even in 1minute requires total control of the viewers eyes. Therefore sometimes boxing in or flatting out the shot sets up a reveal of faster story recognition. A flat or boxed in composition with good light as you've pointed out, creates a sense of pause setting the reveal of the the next frame..IMH. Great videos, entertaining, and very good points of view.

[@DatrysiadMedia]

Really love these breakdowns, especially during this time when you can't get out and have the opportunity to be on set these really help

[@taulantskendaj8486]

Thank you, sir. Your videos are gold. Greetings from Albania

[@daveyrobertson]

Learned a ton from this. I appreciate every little tidbit you mentioned. Great pace too.

[@wanderingdp]

All about that pace

[@phototommyfive]

Hello, I found your channel the other day and I'm glad I did. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and breaking down lighting and editing. I find your running commentary on various shots very, very helpful.

[@DanGoodayleUnreal]

Looks like they tried a practical at 8:26 but decided against turning it on for some reason. Little lamp in that corner would have drawn the eye in a lot. Great breakdown, subscribed 👍

[@alex_montoya]

I'm new to your channel and really loving it. Keep it up!

[@jv8studios]

Awesome, same here ! What got you into filmmaking?

[@tcheAndrew]

I've been doing video for many many years now, and i'm in love with cinematography, but all of your videos drive me crazy hahaha. Your knowledge of cinematography is impressive to say the least.

[@AlexGTech]

Love this stuff, am not a cinematographer but I find it really engaging! Thank you!

[@husariaproductions4240]

I had a nightmare of a location like this once. Then I realized I was watching some of my earlier stuff. I woke up gasping for air saying "It's all about story..it's all about story"

[@wanderingdp]

The greatest thing DPs ever started was it’s all about the story. That line saved more careers than digital did.

[@TheHedenborg]

Hey man! Thanks for sharing some "alternative" breakdowns. Since I started watching your channel I see the framework everywhere and it is obviously how one should do it! Looking forward to implement this look in my next reality TV show project...the genre really needs it!

[@JeremyCarroll]

This channel is just too good! Thanks so much for sharing your expertise and observation...My vision of things has grown so much since I started watching.

[@christianrose4562]

J,K, and L are the playback shortcuts for Davinci. Easier for scrubbing back and forth ;) great video!

[@karliemorris7318]

Amazing break down,teaching me lighting techniques while delivering comedy 🙏🏿

[@Zenavesta]

"Not your left. My left!" Another killer Patrick, thanks

[@wanderingdp]

True

[@valentinbacalu]

Just came across your channel today, really enjoy your breakdowns!

[@DirectedbyJalen]

Do these videos seem to go super fast to anybody else ?! It's probably my favorite channel on YT right now .

[@jamesstatham]

First time viewer and very enjoyable. For a section I did think maybe the director was wanting the that moment in the scene to feel flat and melancholy... Just prior to receiving the book that brightens up the protagonists morning. but then I noticed they return back to the bed. I've not seen the ad in its entirety, so its hard to know if there was any reason to shoot into the corner but if it wasn't intentionally to pull the mood down then yeah, the DP had their work cut out. Lovely and insightful breakdown done well :)

[@kiribundi]

It looks like you've got a straw coming out of your head! Jk Great breakdown. It'd be fun to have a case study of lighting for 360° shots (I actually really need that one). How do you hide lights? How do you keep the frame work if you change axis? How do have lights in the shots (practicals, tubes, etc) that actually light the talent without blowing out?

[@TJIzzy]

Cant unsee it

[@KSE370]

Thanks for the video. Are you going to do any breakdown of movie scenes? I would love that and I think a lot of people also will.

[@sam.oates_]

Ah, this content is sooooo good! I always learn so much! Thank you!

[@filipolszewski7897]

This Is famous Polish comercial amazing lessons from it!

[@heartless1572]

Here's a link to it! Pozdrawiam. ( : kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoaYg6GaYq2AbKM

[@alisha4902]

@@heartless1572 it's such a touching advertisement. I guess a good story is enough to forgive a difficult location.

[@ode_films3244]

@@alisha4902 or the location and how it was shot was intentional. If it had tooked all the same, the emotion wouldn't have changed, which is clearly what they were trying to do

[@alisha4902]

@@ode_films3244 I did not say or imply that the location or how it was shot wasn't intentional. I don't really understand your comment.

[@ode_films3244]

@@alisha4902 I feel this video is somehow critical of the opening scenes. I think they do the job well. Not everything needs to be dynamic or conform to lighting rules. It's about what tells the story best

[@AndreiLucaa]

“Romania”...nicee 🙌

[@MultimediaRevolutioneu]

Great breakdown again! I assume that some of "boring shots" was chosen by purpose to give more depth into the story. Change of moods helps to navigate the storytelling. What's your take on this?

[@ЭрикШарифуллин-с8ы]

Очень субъективная оценка мизансценирования. Лобовой свет от окна и направления в стену (плоские кадры) в первой части ролика - это абсолютно верное решение, которое работает на передачу эмоционального состояния героя. Первая часть ролика отличается от второй. Она делит ролик на 2 части во в момент приезда курьеров. До их появления с новым ноутбуком было грустно и плоско, поэтому камера иногда была направлена на стены и не работала только с теневой стороной героя. Если бы создатели ролика снимали только с теневой стороны в начале ролика, то все кадры были бы направлены на окно, что не позволило бы создать визуальный контраст со второй частью после появления ноутбука. В ролике отлично видны два мира: бытовой грустный (плоский лобовой) и обновленный (глубокий, контрастный, теневой). Автор видео в своих рассуждениях о кадрах-убийцах карьеры зашел так далеко в субъективном восприятии мира, что забыл, что нет правил в этом искусстве. Солнце не светит только с контрового или сбоку. А люди не встают во время беседы только с теневой, чтобы видеть красивый портрет собедеседника. Убийство карьеры - это закапывать себя в рамки контрового или бокового освещения, которое и так все используют.

[@daniel.lopresti]

I love these hypothetical conversations with imaginary crew members, revealing a career rich with such exchanges ;)

[@redantdc]

great breakdown, love the banter of how to talk to talents and team... without offending the director lol

[@heroaomedia]

Love your channel - probably one of the best on KZbin. Are you able to link to the videos you review? It would be great to see them fully!

[@onboardv]

Another great one, thanks. It'd be fun to see what "your scene" would look like, if you slide your desk to the right(my right), and sideways..a bit more towards the L of the room 😜

[@wanderingdp]

Too 3 dimensional. I’d scare people cause they’d think I was in the room with them

[@onboardv]

@@wanderingdp Hahahaa nice one!!

[@mikayelpetrosyan548]

Thanks for the great content. I notice a small practical light, which could've been turned on and used in the boring shot, but maybe it's just a creative decision to leave it off?

[@MuriloBarcellos]

Hi, I love your videos! Please breakdown some shots of the film "Vitalina Varela" directed by Pedro Costa. This film has the best photograph I have ever seen, and I would like to see your analysis of how the shots were made.

[@robcastvisuals3529]

Wow just watched the trailer for that and it looks unbelievable!!!

[@andrean1917]

amazing breakdown, help me a lot

[@DodaGarcia]

Lmao I love it when he goes all sassy and says “yeah but how about if it was a MONTAGE??”

[@Praxiszooms]

with th 4x4 what a great tip!

[@nauticfilms]

Thank you for another very good one. Would you think it is mandatory to precisely follow the logic/motivation of the light source (window in this case) all the time? What if they had cheated a bit, bringing in some additional lights to create a bit more contrast in the reverse angles?

[@nelsongoforth6254]

"Don't let the director hear you." Yes. I've even whispered into the actor's ear as a gaffer. Turn your head just a bit to the left and we'll catch that tear. But I would worry less about the geometry of the room. Put in a Quasar or Kino in that bookcase and just make it pretty. The audience, save for a few DPs, won't care...it's pretty. Put a special on the dog...James T. Kirk lived for years with a taped-down Inkie lighting his eyes. Good show, though. Enjoyed it.

[@davitavye]

Dude thanks for this video. Very helpful 👌🏼🙌🏼

[@hellotorin]

In the shot at 9:34 I see that there's a lamp or reading light in the corner. Maybe they could have turned that on or put a different looking lamp there to give the frame a bit more depth and color? Especially when they cut to the close up shots.

[@wanderingdp]

Maybe. Probably CBF at that point in the day

[@cherneu5052]

Brilliant as always Patrick 🙂

[@urartcray]

Hey man, just wanted to say I really appreciate what you are doing for me and the film community. you have taught me lots and acted as my virtual dp mentor. Thank you

[@KingfisherTalkingPictures]

You spent so long at the beginning saying the same thing, I almost clicked away. Glad I stayed. I understand the problems of the flatness of the bad lighting, but it did help make the shot different for when the actor had his life improved by the book.

[@wanderingdp]

your comment was too long to read the whole thing so I’m guessing it was positive. Thanks!

[@BrandREDStudio]

"Sunburned neck, he's shooting the nightly news." Hahaha!

[@bullettin]

I'm in this comment, and I don't like it. j/k I started my career in news, and I have been spending years breaking habits learned in that space.

[@jauzon22]

Legendary breakdowns! Thank you! 🙌

[@portfolio641]

Patrick if you dont mind me asking, how old are you currently, what was your transformation as an artist by age, every two years what were your progressions.

[@mattyskier]

Thanks a lot! These videos are super useful!

[@davidunoi7099]

great great content! Thankyou and subbed!

[@emanuelioanpetrut]

"Cool location to be in like, Romania..." I died. Is nice to see people consider my country a good looking "location".😍😅

[@deltsovshot]

That's a great , thank you! Wish you happy new year from Russia💥🌲🎆

[@gabrielmachadobsb]

Your breakdowns are great! Would you consider analyzing the music video Eu Não Te Conheço by Tuyo It has beautiful soft lighting but I can't replicate that if my life depended on it 😂

[@stephanhawk7375]

And the color temperature? The two rooms don't match (one warm one green cast), and the shadows he's casting on the wall are really "source-y", but I do appreciate you're being "uncharacteristically kind, and surprisingly not salty. 🤣Great work and thank you for everything you do.

[@benarnoux]

Excellent breakdown!!

[@patrykzar]

Hey, amazing breakdown. How do you draw on the screen in this video?

[@holdmedear]

Would love to see a color grading breakdown!!!!

[@clemensphil1879]

He did one on his channel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioC5eJxva9uVppY&ab_channel=WanderingDP

[@mohammadjaved2684]

Hey man. Great job . Just wanted to ask what light you are using here in your studio for your facelight? It's looks interesting.

[@yealevi2850]

So would you say that ultimately avoiding that situation is a scouting/location decision?

[@bentigui]

Great content man!

[@HendrikusDeVaan]

Great video! Kind of off topic, but how do you do the thing where you draw in yellow in resolve? Would be super handy for communication sometimes.

[@uhuhno6441]

Hm. As much as I appreciate all the helpful advice, I don't think those rules apply in every situation all the time. Seems to me that the intention with this one was to achieve a compromise between being *CinEmAtiC* and mundane. I think the whole thing was meant to be wholesome and pretty but also relatable. I don't think it would've served the purpose if the whole thing just made you go "OMG that's so beautiful!". After all, it's a an old dude with his dog. He grabs his mouse and does clickyclick. You're supposed to feel a bit sorry for him. Turning every little scene into a piece of art to drool over would've been counterproductive in my opinion. So they don't do the pretty angle that distracts from his hand being old and the task he's doing being very ordinary. They probably had a multitude of prettier shots but decided against them, when they realized their point got lost. Meaning they might have made a few shots rather lame on purpose. I could be wrong though.

[@samimqazi4270]

bro ........................................................................................... love your work ... soo informative ...

[@JacksonHayes]

is your period key broken on your keyboard

[@samimqazi4270]

@@JacksonHayes ........... y......up.........

[@CalmBefore6]

this was amazing! THanks so much!!! quick question. what exactly do you mean when you say "into the l of the room"?

[@wanderingdp]

Make a L with your fingers. Raise your finger till it meets your eye. Then scan the room till the L On your hand matches the walls in the room. 4 years of film school in a single reply.

[@mbc_localjournalisminitiat4876]

Incredible Content !

[@MarkBlackheartVideo]

What about that lamp beside the bed? Or lamp/lights somewhere in that bookshelf? Would that have helped?

[@davidnoffsinger5214]

At 13:45 although you wanted a doorway for depth which, yes, would have been great, but doesn't the mirror's reflection count as depth?

[@ChrisKluepfel]

08:41 there's even a practical in the shelf behind the dog, maybe forgot to turn it on?

[@bullettin]

I noticed that, too. I wonder if the director decided it would be weird to have that lamp on for no apparent reason.

[@AANasseh]

Awesome video! Just a quick unrelated question. What software are you using to draw in the screen while screen recording? Looks pretty smooth! :) Thanks!

[@gusnwanya]

Did you ever find out? Been trying to work this out myself

[@AANasseh]

@@gusnwanya lots of weird make shift software like using OBS, etc with a chroma key. But I'm curious if he had an easier work around.

[@alex.muntean]

Haha, Romania 🇷🇴 for the win! 😅👌🏻 Great video!

[@wanderingdp]

Show me someone that doesn’t like Romania and I will show you a problem

[@alex.muntean]

@@wanderingdp haha, awesome! Love your content BTW! 🤗

[@JCurtisMedia]

Great content. enjoying the breakdowns. They have actually helped a few learning curves!. 🙌🏿🙏🏿 #newsub

[@adriandoyneditmas]

This is very interesting, facing towards the window is really good. Makes me think about Parasite, many scenes are taken with the large main window behind the camera. Yet it looks great, why is this?

[@wanderingdp]

The cinematographer is very good. That is how

[@cryptomoose]

Nice rhambrandt ligjting ahah

[@Arnesrm]

Great stuff!

[@cedricschanze]

"We got coms, just use the coms...! hahahaha So true.

[@wanderingdp]

Comlife

[@leoquesto9183]

Thanks.

[@JaredAcker]

welcome to ONE MILLION MID ROLLS lol great content though my man

[@wanderingdp]

💸

[@robinm9655]

Brilliant.

[@cainele01]

One Love from Romania :)

[@wanderingdp]

my man. I’ve always had a soft spot for Africa

[@etofok]

great content

[@wanderingdp]

Great comment

[@dkkeyz8815]

@wandering DP I guess if the man went and sat on the foot of the bed and looked towards the headboard and the dog it would create a better situation?

[@charlymaldonado9811]

Thank you

[@shadwellsong]

love this shit. helps me with music videos! YAY!

[@room_threeothree]

-- he does excellent job at deconstructing the shots angles , but none of us who loves cinematography should bring the breakdown to the location. None of us should film based on his breakdown otherwise every flick that will be shot is going to look identical and lifeless. Who gives how you light (as long as light is motivated and it helps the story unravel), who gives what angle you shoot as long as you translate the story/message to the viewer. Dont be pretentious, be an artist and shoot art. Not pretty light setups and cool looking angles. Dont listen to me as well, shoot how you want and be as pretentious as your mom allows you and become a sell out.

[@DontDenialTheDanial]

Anyone know what commercial he's talking about?

[@tylerdahms2986]

As a news camo I have a very burnt face so I must be doing something right.

[@wanderingdp]

Never change

[@wildstylephotos6082]

you are awesome :)

[@MsYano26]

What specific kind of light is used to light these windows? and diffusion?

[@Brian-Hansen]

Tech Question, what software and hardware are you using to overlay the pen and writing in your tutorials?

[@harrycahill2140]

Is that Bob Gunton?

[@SpryEnd]

Mate after watching your talk i was 100% u got like 1 mil subs , i was shoked ! this is some quality shit . Love it ! 1 more sub to the 1 mil from me

[@wanderingdp]

every journey begins with one montage

[@tarquin8270]

I think your missing the point that real life is sometimes flat . I worked with a director once filming a guy wearing glasses and I was freaking out moving lights , blocking etc trying to get reflections out of the glasses and he just said hey it’s real life , reflections in glasses happen , just leave it , he was right in looked really natural in the edit but would have looked false if we’d carried on hiding things

[@wanderingdp]

sounds like an excuse

[@ЭрикШарифуллин-с8ы]

Смешно видеть, как сотни людей кудахчут о том, как советы в этом видео полезны, хотя это нет так. В разбираемом ролике видна работа с визуальным повествованием, что намного круче, чем совет backlit everything. Такие советы загоняют в рамки стереотипного мышления.