Your Thoughts Are Not Your Own: Jehovah & His Guys Are Inside Your Head

[@joannaalabaster5916]

Thought control, one of the features of the BITE model. And the Witnesses still claim they are not a cult :D

[@soyunperderdor7246]

Well it's all around us now. I'm starting to believe our whole human existence is fighting off cults. Cameras everywhere now and tracking, and non freedom of speech....you jump out of the frying pan then back into another....on a brighter note, I agree with you 😊

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

Yes!! They're a cult.....I'm on record ;)

[@heatherwillson4862]

Surviving, your thinking isnt as strange as you think! Its great to hear someone so articulately voicing the very thoughts that so many of us had, until we could no longer CONSCIENTIOUSLY follow those creepers & scoundrels. Im reminded of sitting there at conventions, looking around at everyone else, & thinking "did you HEAR what he just said? Dont you get it?" I pointed it out to my family & they just shut down! Dead eyes, dead brains & completely unable to make a decision on something as simple as where to go for dinner. They relied on ME to get them there! And the Blood issue. They dont understand the blood components, so they just decide to refuse ALL of it, to be on the safe side! Its EASIER! Sacrificed their lives to "strangers" = human sacrifing cult. They dont notice that the men from god are quoting Hitler?! Wow! Love every minute of it! Thanks!

[@futureofmoney3527]

There are whole white blood cells in saliva, so I guess no kissing for married couples? Oh, JWs don’t mention that. There are whole white blood cells in mother’s breast milk and raw milk, but JWs don’t mention that. Their own lack of understanding of basic science in their blood doctrine is telling, and it shows how arbitrary and meaningless their rules are.

[@universeworld1782]

The public talk on Sunday KZbin English, the speaker actually said that a 2 year old could decide to dedicate their lives to Jehovah! I thought did zi hear that correctly? Then he said said it again. My wife confirmed it that I was not just hearing things! He said at age 2,4,8, they should not waite any longer than that! I told my wife baby baptism coming up!

[@broncosbest6441]

These talks and the comments in them get more and more ridiculous. God and this organisation are two separate entities but they talk like they are one and the same. Always bothered me even when I went! So many circuits with no one getting baptised so this was a matter of time!

[@adamantiumbullet9215]

_"It has been found that the best way to insure implicit obedience is to commence tyranny in the nursery."_ -Benjamin Disraeli, British Prime Minister The sick irony of WT's stance is this: allegedly, a 2 year-old has the mental capacity to enter a contract and make a lifelong commitment. But when that same child becomes 20, 30, 40 or more years old, and they decide to exit the WT because now they have experience, wisdom and intelligence, they are told they are "mentally diseased" and summarily disfellowshipped for using their intellect.

[@broncosbest6441]

@@adamantiumbullet9215 An accurate comment and quote. That term mentally diseased……the irony of it. The rates of mental illness in that organisation far exceeds the rates in other organisations. When that German tragedy happened I said to myself I’m surprised this doesn’t happen more often thankfully.

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

@@adamantiumbullet9215 POWERFUL quote right there!!!

[@cherylhudson325]

Liked the point that one viewer stated about being a good parrot and Polly wants a cracker. I’d see many sisters do exactly this, word for word repeat word for word what was just read and thought that this was wonderful. Always made me angry as why they couldn’t put this in their own words

[@futureofmoney3527]

Everything in the meetings reinforces the idea of compliance, conformity of thought, suppression of debate. The parroting in the Watchtower study (sidenote: they study their own literature, not directly the Bible) is stultifyingly boring and tedious on purpose to reinforce an orthodoxy of mindset.

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

YES! You had no rights to your own opinion or questions. They're conditioning people at every meeting!

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

@@futureofmoney3527 VERY well said Future!

[@cherylhudson325]

This statement was made because at that time I was still going to the meetings. At this point I no longer attend but this kind of thinking still is being done regardless. The longer you are away the more you can clean the junk out and start practicing critical thinking again or start to

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

@@cherylhudson325 So true, time away is critical in getting your thoughts back!

[@96t5wagon]

Damn Stacey! That was another banger right there! While you were commenting about the indoctrination sessions, aka weekly meetings, I laughed because I recalled how there were times when I would be so upset if I wasn’t called on to be a good parrot and show just how much Polly wanted a cracker. Damn, the control they’ve gained over people’s minds in a subtle manner although backed with extremely grave consequences is horrifying once you are able to see it. Awesome episode!

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

Thanks 96!! It really is horrifying! None of us know it is happening....until you're in it deep. They know exactly what they're doing!

[@maryflowers6557]

Stacy, you make me love Mondays!

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

thanks Mary!

[@Goonapachamoothoo]

Whatever your evil thoughts about wtower ,it remains Alive and more faiiþhfull to God not jessus only⁰

[@Goonapachamoothoo]

Why Jehovah is not in you head.

[@rdhawk929]

Loved this! I can remember feeling overwhelmed, never being able to arrive at my own decisions, just completely paralysed always having to go to an Elder. Sickening!

[@deborahdean8867]

Jehovah's witnesses make you get the advise or approval from an elder about everything? Not just difficult decisions?

[@adamantiumbullet9215]

@@deborahdean8867 Pretty much. Elders know everything. Everything. They are three dimensional Googles, Yoda on steroids, the Encyclopedia Britannica with a pulse. God's holy spirit would only choose the very best. Aside from that, they are the stupidest tools you'll ever meet.

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

You literally feel frozen with fear.....even just sitting silently! I understand!

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

@@deborahdean8867 Yep...the elders are 'all wise'....NOT!

[@deborahdean8867]

@@survivingparadisepodcast exactly how many decisions? Buying a car? House?

[@DY2784]

As always, enjoyed your perspective immensely. About the GB knowing exactly what they're doing, I reflect on how many times it's pounded into the JW's head about "forgiveness, forgiving, leaving matters in Jehovah's hands, do not disrupt the peace in the congregation", etc., etc., at every single meeting. So when a JW or their children suffer at the hands of another JW, the chances of the innocent party going to the Authorities is extremely minimal. And to think it shall continue on is sooo sad to see now that I've awakened...😢 Thanks, Stacey. Really appreciate You. ❤👍

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

Thank you so much DY! That is high praise, much appreciated!

[@nicholsonlawrance5821]

The strange thing is that when you tell a JW at least some of them that there thoughts are not there own they will deny it. I had a big argument with my sister about this and even pointed her too her own propganda but she stll denied it.

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

the literally can't see it....they're programmed

[@ingramwright5399]

Funny you mentioned the stockings. I hated having to wear those. I lived in the deep South for most of my indoctrinated years. It was hot as hell, those things were torture, at times, brought me to tears. They don't have to wear them now...hmmm.🤔

[@beautyRest1]

I live in the south, never wore stockings,only when it was real cold. I didn’t know if it was not allowed, but I didn’t care. No one ever talked to me about it!

[@ingramwright5399]

@@beautyRest1 this happened to me during the 80's, in Alabama, to be exact. I was not a born-in, so I was constantly being 'guided' by some 'loving' (lol) sister telling me, yes, you cannot go to the kh w/o stockings. I did see individuals, rarely, without them on, only made me mad and confused. Oops, wasn't allowed to be mad about anything...my bad.

[@beautyRest1]

@@ingramwright5399 yap, that’s how they are😛😂 I remember a ministerial wife told me she can’t wear nylons. She never did, even when it was very cold.

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

That was SUCH a big deal at one time.....I truly believe someone on the Governing Body was a 'legs man'....and he couldn't handle any of it! LOL

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

@@beautyRest1 you to lucky!

[@Hhiller]

Omg I just pointed this out to a former JW regarding the watchtower study! They feed you the material and then the question and then they provide the answer for you to highlight and then raise your hand for a microphone, oh dear god, and repeat what they said was the answer. It’s pure stupidity and brainwashing! Her lightbulb went off and was like I never thought of that?!

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

Once you're free to really examine it, you realize its propaganda... they're planting it all in your head. Psychologists have volumes on the power of reading and speaking words aloud. It's not so subtle brainwashing

[@futureofmoney3527]

You can do ANYTHING you like because you have been blessed with Jehovah-given free will, so long as you do EVERYTHING the JW org ask you to do, and do NONE of the things they forbid you to do. I remember saying something to my conductor (I was a bible student) that was expressed innocently and was not meant to offend, but was probably received as an insult: "I feel closer to God in a natural setting - like a forest - than I do in a Kingdom Hall". I said it wholeheartedly too, because I absolutely meant it. I said it openly and innocently, believing it would be well received. He replied with "you're actually rebelling against Jehovah when you say things like this, you are defying him". I didn't mean to insult him, I meant to simply say that nature itself (God's creation) helped me feel closer to God. It made sense in my head. However, I understood so much in that quick exchange. It was all about obeying the organization. How dare I feel closer to God outside the organization. In that moment, I felt that my relationship with Jehovah didn't matter to my conductor if it was outside the organization (they palm this off with "you simply can't have a relationship with Jehovah outside the organization"). You are not allowed an opinion that isn't lockstep with the organization. You are not allowed true free will. Because the organization is so rigid and inflexible, to say I feel closer to God in a natural setting than a Kingdom Hall is - in hindsight - a huge insult to a PIMI JW. I didn't insult Jehovah, though. I insulted their organization. It was a wake-up moment. I actually thought he'd understand my comment, and we'd talk about the beauty in God's creations etc. Nope. How dare I put God's own creation - nature itself - ahead of a meeting in a brightly-lit, plain interior with rigid protocols and zero breathing space for true expression. And here's the kicker for me: imagine if you have this brimming-over love for Jehovah, and you want to express it in a place of worship, a place where surely you could express that wonderful love. YOU CAN'T DO IT IN A KINGDOM HALL. You have to be restrained. We have to talk a certain way, don't we? You can't even properly express your love in your own unique way. It has to be through this bland filter of dubspeak. So much for free will.

[@Cindy-yq1cy]

Thank you! Challenging growing up having those things imprinted on a developing neural system! Constantly, CONSISTENTLY energy intensive! Not impossible. Worth it- FREEDOM! 💯SANITY💯😊

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

So true Cindy, I fell for it from childhood too...they had our minds!

[@joachimgoethe7864]

Hey Stacy, I cut my pancakes in perfect little squares before I eat them. I put cream and sugar in my coffee cup first, then pour the coffee. Everyone has dining quirks.

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

Whew, glad to know I'm not alone! :)

[@pennybeeflower]

The cognitive dissonance kicked in for me between work and the org because I had to think for my self at work but not really practicing thinking and planning in my life. I just went with what happened to me in my personal life and some negative things happened because of that.

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

You were in good company penny! We all had trouble just learning to think....and when you leave, it's an incredible void....you realize you've been under a spell

[@iamnancy2185]

Thank you I look forward to your thoughts every Monday when my jw husband is a work. I'm in my 70's not born in. it took me 48 years to realize what I was was involved in. Your thoughts help me to remember my own experiences and since I'm very quiet, I've decided to write a small book. I wonder how different my life would be if I had voiced my opinions when I experienced the craziness of the the pre 1975 era. I was the one who video taped the kingdom hall builds when the locals had control of the property in the 80's. Remember those huge shoulder mounted VHS cameras? WOW I'm going to write. Thanks so much.

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

Oh wow Nancy, you must have some incredible experiences and memories to share!! Will we be able to read your book? I can't imagine that things you've seen!

[@Digidab]

Interesting brain stuff !

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

Thanks Digi!!

[@aloramermaidful]

"Does He watch me 💩?" LOL that's so true! Used to think about that, but now I embrace it. I pray my best prayers in the bathroom - no kids or animals to bug me ☺️

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

LOL, I'm glad I wasn't alone.....I was a weird kid!

[@aloramermaidful]

@@survivingparadisepodcast LOL you were, but then again, we all were 😉 shows you are highly inquisitive. Glad your mind is far from oatmeal now 🥰

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

@@aloramermaidful Not yet oatmeal!

[@Deo_on2]

Great job per usual....I also wondered if Jehovah and Jesus were tuned in to my thoughts as a kid..I sure hope not😂😂😂

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

LOL, that makes TWO OF US!!

[@pennybeeflower]

Another "great talk, brother Stacey! .

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

Thanks Penny, I'm in good company ;)

[@pennybeeflower]

@@survivingparadisepodcast

[@pennybeeflower]

@@survivingparadisepodcast Kidding aside, Stacey, this one is one of your best so far. You just keep touching the right topics and saying what many were thknking but were terrified to even think, let alone say. You give everyone the courage to voice our thoughts out loud and release our body from sometimes dabilitating fear and illness. The body actually gets dis-ease/disease from witholding sectrets even bottled up thoughts that were prohibitted to vebalize. Thank you, for helping so many to start to really live and be well.

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

@@pennybeeflower Thank you so much Penny, that means a lot!!!

[@pennybeeflower]

@@survivingparadisepodcast You're welcome. My delight to sing your praises (not the kingdom ones ;) ) The true actual commendation

[@jackijax505]

I’ve had to restart this so many times today, it’s ridiculous. Maybe S a t a n doesn’t want it watched 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. More like my grandson wanting to play with his new nerf gun. 😂😂. Damn Amazon! 😂😂

[@Estee.Ar.6869]

Thanks Stacey! As usual, that was a thought provoking podcast.🤔

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

Thank you Estee!

[@rachellewalker2967]

Oh my gosh! You have my brain!!!

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

Thank you for being here, but it's your own! :)

[@skippy1012]

Hhahaah😂. Ah love this video. From 28:00 was funny. I’ve done all the above and it gave me more anxiety. Those suggestions were against human nature.

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

I got more anxiety too! :)

[@pamelaruth7400]

Absolutely yes I was creeped out too by I felt Jehovah Jesus angels, Satan, and demons 'invasion' into my mind , invasion into my bathroom, and invasion under the covers in my bed! 🤯

[@debbiegregory10]

Stacey get out of my head 😂 Bravo man! I've been waiting for someone to do this one. Best video I've listened to in a long time. Thanks 😊

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

LOL, it's not me debbie....it's not me!! ;)

[@pennybeeflower]

I thought the jehovah could only connect to our thoughts when we were praying and the satan & cronies would hear me if i prayed out loud so i was a silent pray-er. The special holy book was the perfect how-to guild to mental illness, the way I see it, now. 😅😊😮😢

[@adamantiumbullet9215]

"If you talk to God, you are praying; if God talks to you, you have schizophrenia." -Thomas Szasz

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

I actually remember when they used to teach that Penny!!

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

@@adamantiumbullet9215 ;)

[@xjwfurious]

YT recently deleted my 'free will' video, but in a word: Agreed! 🙂👍

[@beautyRest1]

So true!! Yes, I agree with everything! Another great video , THANK YOU for making it!

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

Thank you beauty!!

[@Savannah005]

My husband once bought every woman in the family pepper spray for safety when they do field service. My mother in law said she will first ask the elders if it is okay. And the funny thing was my husband was an elder! There was also an elderly sister in our congregation who constantly call my husband to ask if she can use certain medications. She will list all the ingredients, then he must make sure there is no blood in the medication. Lol.

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

Oh no.....and so common! Imagine grown adults thinking they need another grown adult to tell them what to do?!!

[@Savannah005]

@@survivingparadisepodcast yes, it's absurd.

[@thetruthk5138]

LoL God gave you a brain use it ;-)

[@AdrianPrince-kn7gr]

Hi I am not a JW but I have been around them for over 40 years. They talked me into taking a Bible Study but it turned out to being a watchtower study. Now any time I present a Bible scripture they want me to go away. For some reason they are afraid of disguising the Bible with me. They say they belong to the truth but they are unable to defend their beliefs. I know what you mean any time they have to make a discussion they have to go to the Elders.

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

I'm so happy that you can see that Adrian!! If they can't answer, keep asking questions!

[@moniquedelaney7958]

This is one of your best . 🎉

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

thank you!!

[@shawnrettkowski7575]

Great video! Very clean and to the point. What surprises me most is the lack of JW apologists in the comment section. Ol Ron Hansen and Vusi are duking it out on another channel too funny.

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

THANKS for the heads up.....I'm guessing they're counting service time LOL

[@crowsister1]

Wow..

[@dawnbehatin1224]

This was EXCRUCIATING to listen to 😢.

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

I totally understand Dawn!! Tough to talk about, so I have to laugh!

[@NatalieGrand]

Crushing it! :)

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

Hey stranger!!

[@onesunnyday5699]

I was under the understanding that at least our thoughts were our own 😬😨. By the time I broke away, I didn't care anymore. "YOU MADE ME THIS WAY, SKY DADDY! ENJOY THE SHOW!!" 🖕

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

He's in 'there' too....according to JWs.....I know.....is nothing our own?

[@Adjacentred]

"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones." Marcus Aurelius

[@futureofmoney3527]

Or you can salivate at the thought of billions being slaughtered in the future, and think about which house you want to commandeer after its owner has been destroyed in a fireball. Nah, I’m good. I think I’m with Marcus here 😅.

[@Adjacentred]

@futureofmoney3527 The idea of a God that created people as imperfect and knows ahead of time who is going to sin just to kill them anyway. Why not just end the world now and save who he knows will be saved.

[@futureofmoney3527]

@@Adjacentred Yep. People born every day who will "cook like sausages" and alternatively be "blown out like a match" at Armageddon. Why?

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

I LOVE that quote! Fantastic share, thank you!

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

@@futureofmoney3527 LOL, truth!

[@onesunnyday5699]

So, I was listening to a podcadt about religion in general & the guys heard how Adam & Eve were cast out of the garden before they could eat of the other tree of Eternal Life. Did they not have that covered yet? Were they going to die already? 🤔

[@Andisols_Myakka]

"Parroting your comment" jogged my memory from congregations in Washington State to Florida.. brothers and sisters who went beyond the expected answer, we're cut off when they started giving their analogy with their comment. The conductor would interrupt because it wasn't what was in print lol

[@adamantiumbullet9215]

I thought everyone ate their cinnamon roll starting from the center....

[@aloramermaidful]

You would hate me, Stacy, I'm an OCD person's nightmare! At least that's what my old roomie tells me 😂 Too easy to annoy her by not folding towels the right way, putting the TP the wrong way, etc. When she visits (after saying "How can you live with yourself!" and me laughing at her) I know my linen closet and kitchen pantry will get organized. I'm not stupid 🤣

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

🤣😂 trust me, as an OCD person, I'm the nightmare!

[@aloramermaidful]

@@survivingparadisepodcast lol I doubt it 😉 in all transparency, I have my quirks, too. Not with eating, but dishes. Grandma taught me never coffee in a teacup. My mother in law had elaborate Thanksgivings, had a separate dish to cook asparagus (yes, there's one made specifically for it!). May they both RIP. I got mad when my neighbor served chips on my ceramic turkey platter. It's ONLY for turkey! 🤣

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

@@aloramermaidful 😅🤣

[@jackthomas6952]

Sure hope Jehovah wasn’t in my thoughts as a kid growing up with my own TV in my room and those HBO, SHOWTIME, CINEMAX free weekends rolled around……ahh the memories of what I thought was hardcore porn at the time😂😂

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

LOL....trying to 'see things' through the scrambled signal.......I have on idea what you're talking about LOL ;)

[@jackthomas6952]

@@survivingparadisepodcast Ahhhhh yes 2-3 seconds of glorious Black and White female nudity😂

[@pennybeeflower]

I've still got a question, please...Why did their cult leader, jehovah, neglect to provide the original main characters with full-length disclosure before he gave them their alleged "free-will"? They did not even know what death was if we're to go by the special manual we have now...if death was the vile punishment, the part where the snake-guy was befriending eve would have been a good time for their cult leader, to jump in. It was still pretty close to the beginning of the play, I think.

[@EvelynnLandrum]

LOL - You said most elders don't study! 😂 Is that really true?

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

Oh that is VERY true!! Many don't study and many just 'wing' their parts on the meetings

[@EvelynnLandrum]

@survivingparadisepodcast Hahahaha! That so hilarious. Were you still in after 1996? That's when I discovered the truth about the truth. My dad was Watchtower conductor when the 1995 generation change came about, and he was up there drinking the kool-aid by gallons! I could not believe him putting on that false front. 😂

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

@@EvelynnLandrum Evelynn!! I was the WT conductor for that same article/new light!!!! I was on stage just baffled... and that was after studying!! I held on until 2009.... but was WT conductor for 8 years!

[@EvelynnLandrum]

@survivingparadisepodcast Never will forget that family study night. I had a big blowout with dad about this Watchtower series. After challenging him on the big doctrine change (his pride and ego wouldn't let a 16 year old be right), he still held strong to his beliefs. Twenty-eight years later, he's startled that he's gotten old, in bad health, and still in this "system of things!" He knows he blew his opportunity to leave BIG TIME! I'm happy you finally left and now have a platform to educate many. 💖

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

@@EvelynnLandrum A huge milestone night! So glad you're OUT and FREE!!!

[@jackijax505]

F*ck nylons!!!! More to come … lmfao

[@evilbuddha7819]

Is that REALLY fair, Jackijax? I mean, have you ever TRIED robbing a bank without them?

[@jackijax505]

@@evilbuddha7819 😂😂😂 Remember the good ole days starting in 2020 where you could go in a bank masked with a beanie & sunglasses and no one blinked an eye. 😂😂😂😂 Or go get free bricks from A n t i f a? Good times good times. Lmfao.

[@jackijax505]

@@evilbuddha7819 Oh dang, okay, let me rethink that. You have a very valid point. 😂😂😂

[@randyg.7940]

😊

[@juliepeat4402]

On top of all the things JWs are not allowed to join in with, I feel I’m being fair in saying that any sports ,hobbies and interests outside of the organisation are discouraged , a person could be earmarked as being spiritually weak or pursuing the pleasures of this system of things, ( their phraseology not mine )they want people out preaching not engaging in ‘selfish pursuits ‘ so I think it’s sad that those who have natural talents and interests can’t really explore their full potential. I think the elders would be ‘having words’ with such an individual.

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

So true! The amount of lost potential in people that buried their incredible skills is heartbreaking. So much genius lost to the stream of time because that 'organization' requires it. Tragedy

[@gabby4382]

Adam Knew exactly what he was doing . and had good reason to eat , Was he weeping when he ate ?

[@jackijax505]

Wow, what a perverted song 125!! Here are pulled out words … in order of lyrical content. “Steadfast, firm, reliant, always be compliant, Along life’s path there may appear distressing circumstances, my heart entrances, My faith will yet be tested. Around me swarms the Devil’s crowd, like bees that were molested, But I can ever beat them off, deep affection, Jehovah God has now enlarged, In them he takes great pleasure, May I, with them, e’er zealous be In overflowing measure.” If that isn’t p e d o disgusting lyrics, I don’t know what is!

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

LOL, isn't that fun??? SO BIZARRE!!

[@djjd8120]

👏👏👏👏👏

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

Thanks DJJD!

[@jackijax505]

If you eat a Big Mac … your a$$ better eat the outer area first & save the inner area for the last bite. If you don’t, you’re evil. Just like the cinnamon roll man. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@PL-tj5sd]

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[@natashapeeters988]

In jw borg. It's listen, obey and be oppressed.

[@rickybobby9886]

It's cool that you are aware that you are a infj. I'm a estp. My wife is a infj.

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

INFJ's unite! :)

[@rickybobby9886]

@@survivingparadisepodcast Jesus was a infj. Peter was a estp.