Your Turn to Die Memorandum Theory

[@MilkyMink]

It'd be so messed up if Gin won and was forced to grow up as the new asunaro leader 😭

[@gifigi600]

I would be heartbroken.

[@leonvsderthazthebuizelfans2896]

This would be so sad and horrible but such good plotline

[@lilderpatron6358]

Anyone else feel like the Friendly Policeman Keiji looked up to was/possibly is Joe’s dad? The eyes and personality kinda match, and it explains Joe’s interest in Keiji being a cop.

[@yourturntorant]

actually, joe being the friendly policeman's son has practically been confirmed canon as of the recent chapter! you should check out vgperson's translation notes to learn more about that.

[@PhoenixWrightAceAttorney]

@@yourturntorant Whoa whoa *WHOA!* Slow down there chief…are you being serious?? When did it get confirmed? This is news to me! Is there like hard evidence to back this up? I knew this was a theory but I wasn’t expecting it to be true…

[@beep3023]

@@PhoenixWrightAceAttorney it isn't totally confirmed but the notes say that vgperson also thinks that it is true

[@d4xn4v]

@@yourturntorant yesss

[@IApologiseForQuitting.213]

@@yourturntorant My theory was that Sara’s dad was the friendly policeman because her dad said he wasn’t her real dad but close enough

[@megarotom1590]

Sara’s dad could still be meister, just add in a voice changer/modifier or memory manipulation

[@yourturntorant]

this comment reminded me how ranmaru randomly found a voice modifier that changed his voice to keiji's in the recent chapter. if that's possible, then you could be right! thanks for your thoughts, they're appreciated 💗

[@megarotom1590]

@@yourturntorant thank you :)

[@Exellocks]

I do think that Shin still very much cares for the other participants, other than Sara at least, with him just putting up a loner front in order to "protect" himself, he is clearly shown pained after Reko/Alice die, and during the Banquet, he PLEADS Midori to spare Gin and Keiji, more so than Sara does even. And also, this is something I don't see talked about often, after Midori dies, when Meister announces Keiji will be executed for rule violation, Shin says "Keiji...!! No! He can't die like this...! I need to...!!" And then he gets cut off. I'm very interested in what he wanted to say there, and I'm sure it will be gone over during the final part.

[@lonefaith9962]

To be honest I sadly felt that he wanted to take revenge and that's why he didn't want Keiji to die like that, because he wanted to be the one that did it or still had business with him. I've noticed that in the Sou route everyone that lives at the end is everyone that voted for Kanna back in the second main trial. Qtaro and Reko/Alice who didn't vote for Kanna get killed so they don't suffer sou revenge against the others (which is pretty convenient). Although I don't think Sou would do anything to Gin, and if anything Gin would be the only one to be spared. I hope Sou and the rest can talk things out and he can stop putting up a cold front, it's not doing good to anyone.

[@yourturntorant]

my opinion on sou's reaction is similar to yours, @Hann Faith! the line "he can't die like this...!" is important - he says that keiji can't die "like this," not that he can't die at all. i'm sure that sou is still planning on getting revenge for kanna's death, however i don't think gin will be spared. ultimately, he voted for kanna; that's probably all sou cares about. we'll have to see whether he changes his mind in the future, but imo it's not likely. your point about q-taro and reko/alice - the two people who didn't vote for kanna - dying hadn't occurred to me! nice catch!

[@lonefaith9962]

@@yourturntorant I do think Gin might be spared because he didn't intend to vote for Kanna, although it is true that Sou could care less about Gin's true intentions, but he did seem genuinely stressed when Gin was about to die so I think that if they decide to do various endings, depending in some decisions we take, there's an ending where gin gets spared or all the rest do. But I genuinely want them to talk things out and either way I'm looking forward to their confrontation cause I feel next part of the chapter is going to be really emotional heavy and I feel like they seriously need to be there for eachother to move forward. I can picture many things going different ways, but I feel like Keiji's words at the beginning of chapter 3 when he says to sou that he wants him to live (if I don't recall wrong) so part of me feels and believes or -wants to believe- they can make peace with each other. Or at least for one of the endings. We'll see!! ^^

[@pixistr]

I find it quite curious how the only two characters who cannot die in any route/circumstance as of chapter 3a are Gin and Keiji It seems random until you consider their counterparts I wonder if the writer orchestrated it so those two would live, in order to prevent the Hades Incident from repeating

[@number1toyafan]

"Joe had no odds of survival" THAT HURT

[@aidenharris5296]

Well obviously they were only their to nerf the mc into the ground

[@TheSoulCalledZuzia]

Well, he technically had If he won the first Main Game he'd survive (probably)

[@phiikichi]

I'm personally more enclined to think that the two routes's moods will switch over time, and the Sou route will become more hopeful while the Kanna route gets darker - but that theory is actually really good too ! I don't really know what to think anymore x) Really nice analysis of the game, you gained a subscriber !

[@yourturntorant]

aaa thank you! :') and it's interesting you brought that up, since my next video is going to be about the kanna and sou routes. i look forward to seeing what your thoughts are after it's out!

[@vinoperson1239]

Something I found interesting with the ending of 3-1B in the Sou route is that the three other remaining survivors besides Sou all voted for Kanna, meanwhile Q-taro and the remaining Yabusame sibling both voted for Sou and they both die by the end of 3-1B.

[@megarotom1590]

I definitely agree that the idea of “evening” the odds makes no sense when their goal is likely to find a successor for a criminal underworld.

[@hiitsnana]

I don’t know if someone already pointed it out but if you buy gins personal info, his AI actually tells you that he is also an orphan!

[@tired_jazz_hands9232]

Really? I looked through it and all he says is his mom and stepdad married when he was 2

[@SpanishFly120]

The Memorandum Theory really is an interesting one, even if it has some...disturbing implications regarding Sara and her dad, as you pointed out. There's also a number of intriguing theories people have been talking about for a while you could potentially talk about too. Examples include speculation of Kai faking his death and working to bring the death game down, Miley potentially being an Asunaro traitor, the location of Mishima's head (some thinking it's in Mew-Chan), the identity of the person on the table getting medical treatment that Sara and Keiji saw, who Miley was talking to outside the cafeteria, whether Gin has a collar, if Miley is secretly Gin's mom, whether Keiji's idol is Joe's dad, what Safalin's deal really is, a lot of the first trials, and whether there's a second/doll Sara around as well.

[@oh-no-not-me]

There's also the mystery of what Joe and Kai were talking about in the scene where Sara and Keiji find and review the past footage from a control room which I'm super excited to learn about.

[@sooni-exe]

gin definitely has a collar no? i remember him getting dragged up by the magnetized ceiling

[@SpanishFly120]

@sooni-exe The thought on that some people have is that he was being dragged up by Mew Chan, since they think it'd be Mishima's collar getting pulled as part of the Mishima's head theory.

[@Clone_Center]

@@SpanishFly120problem is that wouldn’t make sense, since he was dragged up by his neck which you could see instead of the pillow, as the pillow would’ve magnetized to the roof so he’d just be hanging onto it.

[@kiyohimeisbetterthanmorgan220]

I was convinced at the part explaining Sou's 0.0% survival rate, because it just makes so much sense. I was always so curious about how the hell one of the smartest and most manipulative members of the group is incapable of winning even once, but if he's getting purposefully foiled by the mastermind then it makes all the sense in the world. Even more so if the reason he's getting foiled is because he's the biggest treath to Sara.

[@sakurabiskuit]

I, too, believe that Midori's explanation for why the participants were brought with the candidates was total bullcrap just to get under Sara's skin. First off, like you said, Gin and Hinako had even lower chances of survival than Kanna, but only she got a participant to support her. Gin's "support" was actually Q-Taro, who IS one of the candidates, and we can assume that, had Hinako survived the first trial, she would get along with at least one of the candidates as well. Sara and Sou also fulfilled the role of Kanna's "big sister", so there was literally no reason for Kugie to even be there to "support" her. Not only that, but Nao actually HINDERED Mishima(as cruel as that may sound). He asked her to vote for him because he felt the test could be a trap, and wanted to protect her. Her presence there actually made him get himself killed faster, not the other way around... So yeah, Midori is a giant liar. But then, we're left with the question: Why were Kugie, Nao and Joe brought into the death game? Are they actually candidates as well?

[@Sage-ve3pl]

Not to mention the existence of the Joe AI, and doll. There's also an unused image of a Nao AI. Plus, would ASU-NARO throw those people in there without testing the affects? Obviously they tested those, meaning they have AIs of all of them, meaning they'd been stalking them for YEARS, making it clear it was their intention to kidnap them. Which just makes it confusing as to why they were really taken..

[@yourturntorant]

while midori’s explanation doesn’t add up, i don’t think he was lying to sara just for the sake of it. i think that was the justification the writer of the memorandum used to include joe in the death game - all so sara’s humanity could be preserved. of course, i could be wrong. but i’m leaning towards the possibility the writer has an agenda that most people who work for asunaro don’t know about. including midori. great catch on nao technically hindering mishima btw! that’s actually something i’m planning to address in my next video…

[@nathanielgarza9198]

I think Kanna was suppose to make Kugie to play support for it as an obligation for rescuing her. Sort of a anti parallel Mishima incident But if that was the case how is Kai, a loyal servant to Sara who is not even known to her suppose to hinder by the same logic

[@TrulySomeone]

@@nathanielgarza9198 Kai wasn't meant to hinder Sara? He was clearly also a support. Which makes the entire balancing business even worse, the candidate with the highest winrate got a buff....

[@nathanielgarza9198]

@@TrulySomeone I know, Joe I semi get he starts accusing people who will vote whether he dies He makes a lot of dark jokes in the midst of a death game I would think if he survived he would just be the little brother you gotta watch for and is also the one person you hope didn’t die Kai to Sara was a stalker and is basically brainwashed to serve her. If he died it be nothing. In fact it meant more to Q-taro then Sara the person he is tying down

[@Sam-xy1vz]

FINALLY I'VE NEVER HEARD SOMEONE TALK ABOUT THIS BEFORE DNNSHDHSJS About the candidate thing,I strongly believe that the current candidates are descendants by blood from the original crime rings. Since AS wasn't able to keep them all together,they became leaders again and gave up their children for adoption so they wouldn't be in danger/in the way. Asunaro,the organisation that came from the monolith and has strimg ties to the police,decides to hold another death game with those descendants. The crime rings then give them the potential candidates,while the participants are people that could appear with the candidates while they're kidnapped and thus can get involved with the death game as well. Due to the strong ties with Asunaro,the parents of Shin and Kanna are able to get two candidates into the death game. Meister is/a descendant from Shinobu Gokujo and leads the organisation. He is also Sara's actual father. Because of this,Sara is prioritized -I haven't watched the whole video yet but thanks for mentioning that theory anyway- Edit: I hope no one of my readers discovers this-

[@RiskoPlexus]

This is my first time encountering the theory, which leads me to wonder: How would things go differently in the Kanna route? I did read one theory on Tumblr that suggested the difference between Shin and Kanna's route in Part 2 would be that in Kanna's route, the remaining cast will actually be able to escape through the 6th floor since there would still be too many people for the *final round rule* . With that in mind, I personally theorize that if Chapter 3 gives you two choices for an ending (logic vs. emotion) regardless of your Chapter 2 choice, one of them will end in the Writer's death which will be the emotions ending. In which case, Sara's been successfully molded similarly to the schoolgirl in the first Death Game but maybe the Writer will become satisfied with the fact that she's simply alive and allows her and the remaining survivors to leave through the 6th floor. But since he's ultimately betraying ASU-NARO with this decision, he's the one who's executed. And maybe to make things a bit bittersweet, this ending will force us to abandon whoever's the surviving member of the Dummies (unless Safalin pulls another trick up her sleeve). Right now, I'm unsure of how the logic ending would turn out, let alone what type of decision will be made to create these two possibilities. Maybe the only difference would be that 2 people still die in the Main Game, and the remaining 3 will escape. Or maybe, this will be the route where we encounter Shinobu Gokujo in person who might offer to take everyone else to safety while Sara stays as the new head of ASU-NARO while guided by Gokujo in the shadows.

[@bepbopbeepbeep1977]

found you :)

[@sparkstudios2036]

It's a good theory but one fact you might have missed The remaining dummy would have run out charge by then and they would be moved to another floor which means leaving the dummy and charger behind

[@froggynico]

Oh my god. I am so happy someone finally made a video essay on your turn to die and the theories surrounding the game. I really enjoyed this video as well. The memorandum theory is a good one. I definitely see the sou lives route going down a path full of death. I fully agree with this video. I have also taken a liking to the theory that Gin is Miley’s child. With him talking about his mother a lot and all of the other backgrounds (besides the og Hinako) is so mysterious.

[@yourturntorant]

i'm so pleased that you enjoyed the video! the memorandum theory is fascinating to me, and i was surprised that there weren't any videos discussing it. so i knew i had to make one for it! gin being sue miley's child... i hadn't put much stock in that theory before tbh, but lately it doesn't seem implausible to me. i'm curious to see whether it'll be confirmed in the future! thank you for the sweet comment btw 💗

[@scan_dinav]

Omggg Gin's being Miley's son is pure genius, I've never even thought about it. I hope it is the case

[@scan_dinav]

And wouldn't that explain why Gin is roaming alone in order to do is own investigations in the complex during Chapter 1 (which leads him to be trapped in a cage) and Chapter 2 (which leads Sara and Keiji to discover Miley's room and to encounter her in the kitchen, doesn't that a hint about it?) ?

[@alovert1]

I absolutely adore this, Ive always been thinking about kurumada's info but I never came to a conclusion I could be happy about. Your theory about Meister and Mr.Chidouin is genius and im truly excited to find out if any of these predictions are correct. This theory video is super well done, huge props to you ^^

[@yourturntorant]

thank you, i'm glad that you liked the video 💗 i feel pretty confident wrt to the meister and mr. chidouin being related somehow, so i'm looking forward to finding out if i got that right especially!

[@ambers6789]

ngl i disagree with the fact that shins 0% survival rate could be fake. i also disagree with his shadow being a doll, and that the doll gave shin the idea to become sou hiyori. shin tsukimi was obviously affected by midori is so many ways. after all, midori is shins abuser. midori manipulated shin, while also being shins friend. they had a very complicated relationship. shin was always a very lonely person, he had no experience with friendships, he even felt lonely when midori "died." midori was a big figure in shins life. when miley tormented shin about his survival rate, she spoke in a lot of detail. this was horrifying for shin. midori made shin believe that he was weak and couldnt do anything by himself. shin saw midori as a strong and powerful figure. as miley pyschologically tormented shin, shin thought of midori: a very significant figure in his life, a strong person, a person who spent almost all of his time with shin. shin thought back as to how midori made shin feel so weak and incapable. shins insecurities are deeply rooted in himself. shin believed that if he became his abuser, somebody who's strong and capable, that he would be able to survive. for shin tsukimi is a weakling, which midori is the strong. shins doll was a hallucination tormenting himself. miley made shin crack and fully change himself to survive. shin cracked so much, his hallucinations and persona is proof of that. the idea that his shadow might be a doll erases a lot of shins character and his internal battle. about the survival rates, i have kinda weak evidence for that. i just feel it in my gut that it's not fake. if shins survival rate is fake, that could mean rekos is too. or saras. or kannas. anyones could be fake in shins is. i dont think a trivial detail in yttd, a factor that is especially important to shins character would be fake. i guess u have a possibility of being right, since yttd thinks of all different things actually! in my mind i just dont wanna believe its fake lol also this is really good! i can tell u put a lot of effort into this! i cant wait for the new part of yttd!

[@parasitophobia]

I have to agree on you with this ! The idea of it being a doll that was the motivator for Shin to change doesn’t sit right with me either , especially considering what we know (albeit little) about his dynamic with Midori . It sort of feels less .. haunting to me to have the outcome being that he changed due to a factor that wasn’t related to what he went through pre-game. It’s a lot more fitting to have the motivation for change being due to the fear of a death that he cannot avoid due to being who he is , Shin Tsukimi . Changing himself to be his abuser as he knows Hiyori to be someone he looked up to and was one of the few people he really was able to confide in albeit Hiyori most likely being the reason he is convinced of being weak , pitiful and incapable of surviving on his own . It’s a lot more interesting story wise for that reason . As for the faking scores situation , as the floormasters are unable to lie about the information they share to the participants due to their rules may be a way to start in terms of information to back up then claim , but as we don’t know if the floormasters follow this rule , it’s hard to say . Though in terms of a lot of survival rate things , a lot of them are very plausible without the ‘it’s faked’ situation , as very often with the kids itd most likely be a thing where if someone cares about them enough , someone actively guarantees survival for the kids during the ai tests . The most plausible reason for Shin having a 0 percent chance of winning is most likely due to the fact it is not considering Shin changing himself with the purpose of survival , especially considering that the Shin Ai is willing to help absolutely anybody out of feeling bad and is incredibly empathetic to the cast , getting himself killed through these acts . The ai tests are probably considering Shin as his old self , rather than the personality switch , regardless of how smart and cunning he may have been in the ai tests . Edit : just remembered something in terms of debunking the claim of faked winning rates ! The documents are specifically described as internal documents in chapter 2 , meaning that it’d be pointless to have the scores be faked if they are specifically something only 1 survivor was intended to see (until Miley showed it to Sara to aid in the act of finding Gashu’s transgression , which was then shown to Everyone.) , there’s no need to fake the documents for that exact reason . Another thing to consider though in terms of the survival rate thing is the ai , as all the ai specifically have personalities and hold the same mentality from several years in the past , meaning that considering Shin’s current age being in early 20’s the ai is most likely a teenager , which also calls into question the personality of shin before the death game , as IF the ai is mentally a teenager , it means that there was clearly time for him to change personality wise , it doesn’t mean that his rate is actually not 0 percent as it doesn’t really mean much in terms of the rate other than the idea of him being empathetic . It sort of just generally means that we lack enough information to exactly state perfectly why Shin’s rate is as low as it is , or if Shin was even similar to the ai before the game , but as the ai is presumably Shin from several years prior , it is still not considering the idea of the personality switch . (.. There’s also the plausibility of the ai Hiyori has being different than the one that would be used on the second floor , as it holds more knowledge about the floor it’s on than it probably should , aswell as knowing about Hiyori’s work regarding human memory that Shin probably doesn’t actually know , regardless of the fact the ai literally says he knows nothing . Either that or Shin is truly letting the liar aspect of his character shine through some more when he said he never peered into that unknowable darkness regarding Hiyori as a person .)

[@Twocat5side]

31:54 Tho this does beg the question of why was Midori trying so hard to turn Sara into a selfish winner of the death game, if the writer did want her to actually be hopeful. Is Midori on his own agenda ? But he mentions how he is loyal to Asanaro...

[@phsycorobloxian8329]

It's because there's probably discord and the Asu-Naro agents have completely different goals, while there are loyal agents like Midori, Gashu who broke the Floor Master's rule, he did it out of loyalty for Asu-Naro and (presumably) Safalin. For the people who have their own hidden motives, for example, Miley joined Asu-Naro most likely out of revenge for her fiance who was driven insane by them and secretly sabotages them by exposing Gashu's transgression to get him killed knowing that while him committing suicide prevents a 24 hour retry and benefits Asu-Naro greatly by preventing the participants from escaping, it still is a large blow against them because they lost one of their most important researchers because of it. That way, Miley can openly attack them without being branded and exposed as a traitor. The writer only wanted to recreate the dead high school girl's personality out of Sara. But he keeps failing until now because the entire simulations either show Sara dead or turning evil and winning only by manipulative means. The only reason Sara wasn't becoming evil was because of Joe being her moral compass throughout the death game from start to finish. But however, the writer's wish may about to be fulfilled now because of the current events assuming that they go through Kanna's route.

[@phsycorobloxian8329]

Midori's loyal to Asu-Naro because they're helping him in his unethical experiments to memory research.

[@dainty3614]

@@phsycorobloxian8329 > Miley joined Asu-Naro most likely out of revenge for her fiance who was driven insane by them and secretly sabotages them when did this happen???

[@Arkraiden]

@@dainty3614 late to say but it was information found in the office/computer room that wouldn't be seen if you can't interact with Hayasaka there. The information shows Miley and Safalin's original selves and it was said that Miley would likely not want to change jobs because of having a fiance. The files heavily imply that they would take action towards this fiance to make Miley join them.

[@pancakeuwus]

this is really interesting and well made i’ve also never heard of the transcripts of deleted scenes of the wiki so thanks for talking about that i can’t wait to see more theories out of you ^^

[@yourturntorant]

i'm so glad you think so! and i'm not surprised you didn't know about them - i stumbled on the deleted scenes while researching for this video, so i knew i had to mention them.

[@dappershinx9234]

Great video! It's always nice to find someone who can properly analyze these things, especially in a community mostly made up of children (citation: wiki poll). I've got some criticisms, but ultimately it is a good video. Some pronunciation corrections: Sara: Sah-rah (it's the japanese name Sara, not the English name Sarah) Sou: Soh Kugie: Koo-gi-eh I think you misinterpreted or forgot that it isn't necessarily extra people as the handicap for everyone. For example, Sou likely had the fear of death instilled into him as well as knowledge of the death game during his First Trial as his handicap. Speaking of Sou's survival rate, it's from then on that I really disagree with your theory. -I don't think it's about Kanna specifically - he is just by nature extremely self-sacrificing and during the tests would never allow himself to win over somebody else, hence why they needed to do that to him, to turn him into Sou Hiyouri instead of Shin Tsukimi. -I think his shadow is just a dream apparition with the metaphorical purpose you mentioned. The only time we see him other than at the start of the game is during Sou's nightmare. Don't forget this is the same scene where we see Sou "dead" where he got bonked by Nao to symbolize the death of "Shin", when he knew for sure he couldn't trust others. -I don't think there will only be bad endings for the Sou Route. This would be bizarre in terms of themes since I doubt Nankidai would just say "logic bad lol" because voting for Kai is treated as the correct decision and because the canonical reason we are given for Sara's vote is that Sou living gives us a better chance at escape - I doubt that will be completely thrown to the wayside, especially considering we still don't know how he undid his collar. Additionally, Sara's dad only welcomes her to the "final death game" in the Kanna route which could either be the Main Game or the final decision about who will be a doll, but either way this implies that in the Sou Route it either doesn't happen or will be determinant (while it always happens in the other route because it was foreshadowed). So I think there will be at least one ending that involves escape, possibly saving one or two more people than in other routes (at the expense of emotional levity found in the Kanna Route). I do really like the speculation about Sara's dad. I've always had the theory that Sara's dad is the mastermind and simply misled Kai because his identity is a secret while tipping off the rest of Asunaro (or rather whoever is important to that situation), but the doppelganger idea is an interesting one. Overall, I enjoyed the video even if I disagree with parts of it as they are still well cited and make sense! You should really keep up the good work; you've earned another subscriber in me.

[@yourturntorant]

thank you for the lovely comment! i appreciate your thoughts on the video, especially the corrections on names - seems i'd originally pronounced sou correctly in my head, but changed it for this video since i thought "sue" was right. oops. i'll keep your corrections in mind going forward! now, to respond to your points: * going off of midori's spiel to sara, not all of the candidates were given handicaps. only those who had a high chance of survival were, such as - and maybe *only* - sara. we're likely meant to presume that sou was told about the death game to help him/"balance" the roster, since his chance is 0% - similar to how kanna and mishima received helpers * shin being extremely self-sacrificing is an intriguing thought! personally though, i don't think this is the reason behind his 0% chance. nankidai has been consistent in allowing his characters to be capable of both "good" and "bad." even a kind and empathetic person like joe tried to win in the first main game, despite knowing it'd result in everyone's (except sara's) deaths. so i think there is more to sou's 0% chance than that * you could be right wrt shin's shadow! i'm on the fence about it. certainly, his shadow serves a metaphorical function, but i wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be a doll. it's definitely my weakest argument though lmao * i'm glad you brought up sou/logic vs kanna/emotion, since i'm scripting a video on that rn! the two of us seem to disagree on yttd's themes; i don't think nankidai's trying to say "logic bad" per se, but i do believe that kanna's route is meant to be the "best" or "good" one in terms of who lives/what happens. but perhaps there is some sort of escape in sou's route, as you said anyways, i'm thankful that you enjoyed this video and decided to subscribe! i am eager to learn your thoughts on my upcoming content. even if we don't completely agree, i understand where you're coming from and appreciate the discussion 💖

[@dappershinx9234]

@@yourturntorant To be a little more clear and specific about the "balancing": I think the idea that the handicaps are not just additional participants is the Occam's Razor answer to why Gin or Hinako "don't have one". We haven't seen Gin's First Trial yet and we know hardly anything about Hinako. It's very likely they were given bonuses not in the form of another person. For Gin you could say he was informed of the facility layout to explain how he found the secret passage, or you could go with the theory that Miley is his mother and gave him a talk at the very start. Due to Shin's self-sacrificing nature (not too hard to imagine given his AI of him prior to the death game) his percentage is nearly 0% (keep in mind that 0.0% isn't absolutely none; it could be 0.09%) and if you're not convinced of that on its own, it could also be because he is wary and on edge allowing him to see through Sara which would get him killed most other times. Shin is timid and fearful, but he will act on a whim to save someone else's life above his own (no doubt a product of lack of self worth due to his abuse at the hands of Midori). I believe Sou's first trial was not just to see the percentages but to be shown some footage of the AI testing. That's how the image of Sara stabbing him found its way into his head during his nightmare. And that's also why he knows a lot about the death game before anyone else does. For example he knows that not letting anyone see your card is a dummy rule and that you only need to touch other people's tokens for it to count in the Final Attraction, trading just enough between Kanna, Alice, and himself (and probably taking them right back) to place right below first - avoiding any repercussions. He probably got this from the footage he was shown. And in conclusion: Not all handicaps were actual participants, Sou's was to see AI footage, and he needed it to put the fear of death and distrust of others in him for two reasons: 1. He knows about Sara before it's already too late 2. He will be more hesitant to throw his own life away And that's the theory in full. I feel like I didn't explain it too well before haha. In terms of Logic and Emotion, the way I see it is as Sara's intent. Her canon reason for voting for Kanna is that Sou has proven himself able to help the gang escape, and her canon reason for voting for Sou is that she hates Sou. No, really. There's probably more to it but that's what the actual dialogue says. Because of the ambiguity of both intentions I find it unlikely that one is good and one is bad. Even with 3-1 as it is, that doesn't mean there can't be any sort of turnaround because that's sort of what stories do. Ultimately I think there will be multiple endings to both routes that can be considered "good" or "bad". Also something I forgot to mention: the scene where Q-Taro and Gin confront Sara who very apparently feels guilty for enabling the death of Yabusame. "No matter the size, we're all carryin' sins..." I think this indicates potential development for Sara to escape the "evil Sara" identity. It would be unsatisfying if that went nowhere. I see this go overlooked constantly. Looking forward to that video!

[@megarotom1590]

I disagree about why Shin has a 0.0% survival rate, I think it’s because the AI tests the data is based on is without external factors, which is why non candidates don’t show up. If we assume this then let’s take the two sides of Sou. If we take the Shin side, he’s manipulatable and will sacrifice himself for Kanna if not more. He’s also an easy target for someone with a weapon. Sara would chew him up and throw him out. Now let’s take the Sou side, he’s highly cunning and a force to be reckoned with and yet he shows cracks before his plans fall into place completely. Sara probably prevents his first big plan with the help of Keiji (who seems to side with Sara at all times and is very skilled himself…gee I wonder why his win rate is so high) and then takes out the major threat who is still physically wimpy as crap, unlike other high level threats like Q-taro and Kuramada

[@tired_jazz_hands9232]

Exactly!! Miley purposely didn’t tell sou that this game would be in different circumstances

[@Twocat5side]

I think this is the best YTTD video I have watched so far Excellent work Tho I am a bit disappointed that this heavily pushes emotion as a better route than logic, like the concept of logic vs emotion is so interesting yet over here it's like simple black and white where logic is bad and emotion is good. I just wish Sou's route could be much better he's a really interesting character.

[@ashleysalomon4349]

I don’t think Sara will turn evil in the Sou route but rather the Kanna route. In the Sou route when Alive/Reko dies she regrets it and her actions. She doesn’t get that big moment in the Kanna route. I fact there’s one scene where when Sara’s running at Midori instead of unforgivable like in the Sou route she says I’ll kill you in the Kanna one. Also something that has recently caught my eye was the fact that Sara was not completely nice when with Joe. Go back to the scene with Joe at the bar. She has a scene where she focuses on her survival and it had red text. Now it would only be a coincidence if it wasn’t for the fact that she says she’ll kill midori in the Kanna route. This means Sara isn’t completely innocent when Joe is around and can be somewhat evil. Not only that but in the Kanna route it’s confirmed that she wins. As her father congratulates her in that route and there’s no one else around. And this has nothing to do with what I’ve previously talked about but in the rules about floor masters. It says they can’t lie *purposefully* it’s always possible that a floor master was told incorrect info and technically lied but was never killed for it. Which means the gang could have wrong info on specific things and wouldn’t know it. When I think of this theory, I think of Midori. He could have been shown a fake simulation and gotten incorrect info on Sara which maybe why Sara has been shown to be evil with Joe around. And if you pay attention, Nao and Kugie aren’t really helpers. Because Mishima wanted Nao to live he sacrificed himself. And Kugies death made Kanna more dependent on everyone else. In fact most of the non participants shouldn’t have AI’s right? Which means the AI tests don’t have Nao in them right? If you look at a past AI test that was in the memory of Sou(for some odd reason that deserves it own theory) mishima was alive. And since Nao couldn’t have been in the AI test it meant that her not being there made him live. And on to Kanna and her being dependent on people now because of Kugies death. I want you to look up a picture of Sara and Kugie side by side. They look incredibly similar. I think this was purposeful as they wanted Kanna to like Sara more so Sara’s survivability to go up. And right now I’m questioning ytts and it’s deal. The sunny endings are strange. And I don’t understand their purpose. Same with Jim and Touko, why do they exist?

[@misakimtg643]

I agree with you, I was thinking that the percentages of Sou and Sara have been swapped,the real 0% is Sara, because it is strange that Sara in the Kanna route can win while the evil Sara on the Sou route has more death flags, I doubt she will survive and yet it is a parallel of the simulations. So it means that Joe is not her weakness but her only strength to live and carry on. This it also explains why the dolls with the highest percentages died in their first trials and why Sou doesn't have a helper, he never needed one.The person who is handicapped is Sou no Sara.

[@scan_dinav]

Maybe that's just for him to be remembered too or something like that, but why would Mishima had malevolent AI as he does in Chapters 2 and 3? It might be what he was in the simulations - since Nao wasn't there, he let himself being quite sneery and deceiptive so that he could survive. I don't think they would have messed up on Mishima's AI just for the pleasure of it. And why Mishima specifically, though? It might be because he was the only one candidate to die on the First Chapter? Since Kai and Joe weren't. Thus, he was the only one to have an AI at this rate... But I still think he had been malevolent during the simulations when Nao wasn't here, so that Asunaro didn't had a lot to do to bring him there and deceive the other participants in Chapters 2 & 3.

[@CGR0cks]

I really hope that the Sou route ends up being much more hopeful than Keiji and/or Gin dying because I promised to keep Gin alive at all costs in the beginning, but while playing through for the first time, I felt bad for Sou’s 0% survival rate and wanted to prove the game wrong. I legit cried when I killed Kanna and got the “bad route” because I just wanted to help my dude live. I hope everyone in the Sou route lives, though if I have to give a sacrifice, I nominate Hayasaka. Don’t know how he slipped through the cracks during my first playthrough. Really wanted Mai or Kurumada to live.

[@Fioriel]

Shin is more like: Your Turn To Lie. In your opinion, can Mishima be the real mastermind behind all of this? Or, at least, can he be still alive? His death's very suspicious and it was very easy to simulate. Why he had to throw away Nao, who just wanted to help him, otherwise? Maybe because she could sense cold in touching his neck. Where is his head (and his collar)? Why is there his AI in the room at third floor? Sooo many questions

[@sauce4279]

He likely pushed Nao away since she was likely to try and rip his collar off...and since said collar is currently burning his neck off...yeah, still thinking of his student even as he's dying.

[@DaniPino7020]

I know that you meant to ask her but, I wanted to share my opinion I would say that it's impossible for Mishima to be the master mind since Your turn to shine exists, showing us how Mishima truly is and revealing his deep thoughts about the group and the endings he gets Mishima threw Nao away because he simply didn't want her to get hurt, Nao even touches his dead body right after he gets burned by the collar The reason why his AI is on the third floor is probably for morbid reasons, and still... Everyone has an AI there so.... No point on being suss in that part Plus all the trust that Nao had on him and how she fooled his fake AI meaning that they have a special relationship teacher-student, if Mishima was really behind everything he would have easily decived her in that moment with a much more realistic Mishima AI And finally Midori's reaction on chapter 3-B revealing that not even Asunaro have found his collar, that's the only suspicious mystery about Mishima I would say

[@yourturntorant]

my thoughts are similar to the two users who commented before me, honestly! mishima likely pushed nao away to protect her, just in case she got hurt by being in close proximity to his collar. his missing head and collar will definitely appear in a future part, but i'm skeptical about him being behind the death game - or being alive in general. it just doesn't seem very plausible at this point, in my opinion!

[@biscuitporkasmealchoice6741]

This is such a great video, especially for your first time recording! I might as well toss a few random thoughts that I haven't seen in other comments. Overall, I think the survival rates are strange. According to Midori, bonuses were given to the lowest percentages and nerfs to the top. Aside from what you already mentioned in the video, there are strange inconsistencies with this information. For example, why would you pair together Alice and Hinako out of all people in the first trial? If they have AI test data on each candidate, they should know for certain that out of every character in the cast, Alice is one of the most likely to run away from such a situation and HInako is clearly suicidal and wouldn't fight back. Dropping those two in together almost seems like certain death for Hinako. I'd also say similar things apply to Megumi with Keiji. With all the data they have, wouldn't they know almost certainly how Keiji would react? A trial like that seems to ensure Megumi's death despite her already being on the lower end of the rankings. Since we've already had multiple instances abusing the system for their own gains, it almost makes me wonder if Midori set things up so that he could try to use his switching trick in the banquet. Afterall, Hinako has the lowest survival besides Shin and he already had a human replacement on hand to switch her out. As for Sou route endings, I believe there will very likely be at least two endings. After all, four is the only number in the main game where you will have two survivors whether the sacrifice is chosen or not. I think it's more than possible that given Sara's survival-prioritizing nature in the Sou route, a route in which she obtains the sacrifice card and wins is possible. With two votes, if a single other person picked the sacrifice in this last main game, the sacrifice would win 3-2. And with Keiji and Gin both clearly trusting their lives with Sara, manipulating at least one of them or even threatening them is more than possible. She could even win by lying to force a sacrifice win with Keymaster and Sacrifice being the only two left after the preliminary vote. I wouldn't even be surprised if a sacrifice ending was possible with a final split allowing the player to choose between saving Keiji, Gin, or Sou to live with her. Alongside that idea, I also don't think Sou's ending is destined for a bad ending. It's very possible that the main game can be avoided altogether. I think it would be interesting if the route split in Sou's side is a main game sacrifice ending vs avoiding the main game ending in which whether you can bring Sou back to your side is the deciding factor on which route you go on. And in that, revealing the victory percentage rates as falsified might be one such piece of information to sway Sou to your side. There are a few loose threads that I'm not sure are important enough to tie up in the game, but I might as well bring them up since they all relate to a lack of information that could be resolved based on the status of remaining characters. First, we still lack the first trial information for Gin and Reko. I think it's pretty likely we get information on Gin's, but I wonder if the Reko route could give us more information that's key to the best ending possible in regards to her first trial. It's even possible that Reko and Gin were connected to parallel her brother linked with the other child. Maybe Reko's knowledge of the situation could reveal information necessary to figure out the full story behind Gin. The next notable area is how we never got a lantern memory for both Sara and Keiji. I'm not sure if we'll get Sara's info, but I feel certain that knowing Keiji's wish would be instrumental. I personally subscribe to the theory that Kai is actually Sara's helper and Joe was indeed brought for Keiji. Keiji's wish might be wishing to meet his idol's son, which of course is Joe. This could be my personal memory issue, but I don't think we ever resolved what happened with the spare Midori head. We know Keiji goes to charge it, but it never gets incinerated because Q-taro pulls the switch. Not really sure what that means, but it's something worth considering. Last, we still lack information given from the two dummies, Mai and Anzu. I think it's reasonable to assume Anzu's is lost forever, but charging Mai and receiving her final information could be another key point of information for the best end. That could make sense given that Kurumada's information is still very likely to be important to win the killing game. Why not Mai's info too? It also just feels natural to have Mai's survival out of the three dummies imo, but that's not great evidence. Aside from that, we never got any lantern memories from a single dummy. I might also be recalling incorrectly, but I don't think it was ever clearly stated if you could retrieve lost memories from the dummies. They all brush Sara off when she tries presenting the lantern to them rather than explicitly stating it doesn't work. I don't know if that will be important information in the end, but it would be a nice bonus for saving one of the three dummies. that was a long post oops anyways, great vid again

[@pxxchytea]

29:00 the way I had a lightbulb moment and my jaw DROPPED- thank u sm for making this I love listening to theories about yttd, I really hope the next chapter comes out soon :,

[@misakimtg643]

I think the percentages of Sou and Sara have been swapped Sara is the real 0% and this explains many things, the dolls who died in their first trials with only the highest percentage, the presence of Joe as a helper but there is also Kai who was a helper for her. Moreso, the presence of Joe in the game has not weakened him at all, in the Kanna route it is confirmed that she wins no matter what, but only if Sou is dead, while the Sou route is a parallel with the simulations, so what Midori says is not true that Sara is invincible without Joe. Also in the simulations Sou did not behave like Shin Tsukimi, he calls himself and behaves like Sou hiyori, his first trial seems almost a handicap and he is with the strongest people on the list, while Sara is with the weaker people like Kanna and Mishima. Edit: in conclusion Sara + Joe is 15.5% while evil Sara is 0%

[@bradleymoore2797]

Wasn't Sara's win rate supposed to be even higher than 15.5% when she didn't have a 'support' weighing her down? Sara's 'support' was to keep her winrate lower than what it could be so the games would be more fair. If anything, the way Sou manipulated Kanna during the first half of the game is what Sara could have potentially done instead if she didn't have Joe. Without Kai or Joe the first person she'd most likely have manipulated was Kanna way before Kanna even understand the relationship she had with Sou. Then Mishima would have most likely all ways protected Nao, Gin, or Kanna and done something like voting for himself during the practice vote and end up dead which Sara could have figured out a way to manipulate someone else as the game implied she's good at. With Joe non-existent in the first route, who would have gotten the sacrifice card anyway? The sou route isn't parallel with the simulations because Joe never existed from the start in the ones they simulated before the 15.5% winrate sara. So really the Sara in the Sou route is still the 15.5% winrate sara. The invincible sara is the one where there were no helpers.

[@misakimtg643]

@@bradleymoore2797 Sara doesn't remember Joe so it's like he was never in the game and Midori is a liar. He lied about a lot of things, anyone could get the sacrifice card even Kanna if Joe or Kai hadn't been there.

[@bradleymoore2797]

@@misakimtg643 The events of the first half of the game matter. It's not about just remembering joe. He existed and it has affected the current situation for Sara. It's like thinking if you forget your dad, your current situation is 100% changed. No. You were 100% born, the education you had is the same, you finished whatever school you had. Certainly, any talks you had with your dad that affected your personality might make you different, but you still have every event that happened. You just don't remember your dad. Now, lets say your dad never existed in the first place. Now that completely affects you in much more ways than before don't it?

[@finvaly]

Upon hearing about possible outcome of Shin route (with Sara and Sou being the only survivors) I'm so hyped to see exactly that. Both Keiji ang Gin dying is very bittersweet and fits the game's momentum very well

[@atlasrot]

really liked this video! very cohesive and well organized and I agree with a lot of points you made in this theory! of course there's a lot of other loose ends and ongoing mysteries besides the main ones you talked about in this video and I'm looking forward to seeing future commentary you might do on those too (as well as character analysis) literally just the other day I was thinking about how people should make more video essays about yttd so this was a exciting find lmao

[@atlasrot]

also very appreciated that you talk about a main theme of yttd being fate vs free will considering most players tend to focus on the "logic vs emotion" parts of this game! rlly fascinating stuff bc there's definitely a lot to think about in terms of that with the reoccuring ideas of doll vs human

[@yourturntorant]

thank you, i'm glad that you enjoyed this video! it's been slow going, but i have ideas for future yttd video essays and am scripting one right now. fingers crossed it'll be uploaded sooner rather than later!

[@Joetino]

I was datamining some cut content and I found out that the Memorandum Girl’s surname is Sendou, and her friend is related to her by blood. Maybe the same could be said for Joe and Sara.

[@scan_dinav]

!!!! Omg, that's just confirm what I was thinking as a theory : Mr. Policeman might the biological father of both Sara and Joe. I think it's not impossible since we know M. Chidouin is not related to Sara by blood and she looks a bit similar to Joe and Mr. Policeman too. They do not have a the same mom, they could be half-siblings. That would make Mr. Policeman a jerk of a cheater lmao - since Sara's birthday is May 18th and Joe's June 26th.

[@Joetino]

@@scan_dinav Nah. Considering Mr. Policeman’s personality, he wouldn’t cheat on anyone. He literally left the police force after he found out the dealings with ASU-NARO

[@scan_dinav]

@@Joetino Yeah, I considered the thing but that was too odd for him to be a dick haha

[@megarotom1590]

I also disagree about who dies in the final main game, assuming the sacrifice card is even in play (which is a big if given the mathematical implications) and that said main game even happens given the escape route, there are 4 possibilities: Sou gets the sacrifice and gets voted Someone else gets the sacrifice and gets voted Sou gets the sacrifice but it’s found out Someone else gets the sacrifice and dies. In case 1 Sou would pick Gin to live no questions asked, he didn’t want to kill Kanna and is just a child In case 2, nobody else would pick Sou. Gin and Keiji would both choose Sara while Sara would choose Keiji as she clearly still cares for him In case 3, Sou dies via sacrifice. As far as who gets voted... I don’t know. My best theory is that Sou, knowing that Sara nor himself will get voted (even if Sara herself is also exposed, I don’t think Gin would be able to vote her or even truly believe it and Keiji will stick with Sara regardless), will vote Keiji, Gin will vote himself, and Sara will vote Gin and tell Keiji to do likewise In case 4, Sou gets voted and then the sacrifice dies. Basically I can only see Sou living with gin, if he doesn’t pull off a sacrifice, he’s dead meat, even if he bluffs a sacrifice, the true sacrifice will fight against him to ensure that Sou doesn’t win…

[@BoneMeal.12]

I think that Sara pulling off a sacrifice might be interesting. During the banquet, we were almost forced to make a choice between gin and keiji. But I think that if sara pulls it off, she would choose gin. She cares for both equally, but as shown in the banquet, keiji would rather gin live than himself (If I remember it correctly I might be making this all up win which case please excuse me) and would convince sara.

[@megarotom1590]

@@BoneMeal.12 I think is the Kanna lives route, Sara would certainly choose Gin to live...idk about the other route though Besides the banquet was also about who won and the trust with the dummies, Keiji wasn't just trading his life for Gin's, it was a choice that ran much deeper... Not to mention Keiji expected the final one to be a doll bc the fake Midori but it wasn't...since he didn't use the mishima collar he knew he wouldn't be executed...though he doesn't know what's going on

[@b0ne_fiend]

Sou could also just get the keymaster, meaning there would be no way he is voted to die during the main game in his route and, in line with the memorandum theory, in my opinion, that would lead to the deaths of Keiji and Gin. I believe that, should there be a main game in the Sou route and he ends up being the keymaster, Gin would most like be the sacrifice for the sake of the stories continuation, leading to Sara and Sou's final confrontation. With the assumption that Gin doesn't vote for himself, and thus, doesn't win as the sacrifice, I believe he would most likely vote for Sou, even if he is the keymaster and that decision defies logical thinking, leading Keiji, Sara and Sou to be forced into voting unanimously for either Keiji or Sara, in order to ensure the survival of, at least, one of them. That predicament would most likely end with the death of Keiji, the fulfilling the memorandum's 2nd victim conference and would properly set up a final confrontation between Sara and Sou.

[@megarotom1590]

@@b0ne_fiend I don't think the sacrifice properly works with 4 people as written because the sacrifice and whoever would be voted out can both vote the sacrifice. Especially if the sacrifice still gets 2 votes or wins ties.

[@b0ne_fiend]

@@megarotom1590 Yes, logistically that is how the sacrifice works, that is why I elected to say Gin would be the sacrifice, the one I believe would be most prone amongst the four to vote emotionally rather than logically. However, if this idea were to actually be implemented into the final game, it wouldn't be as straight forward as I presented it and would obviously feature many more twists before getting to that final result of Gin's and Keiji's deaths. Ultimately, it is a theory for the sake of a final climatical 1x1 confrontation between Sou and Sara and fulfilling the set up created by the memorandum. The thing that I wanted to disprove most from your comment is the claim that there aren't any ways for Sou to survive other than tricking them with the sacrifice, case and point, if he were the keymaster and the sacrifice wasn't willing/capable of tricking the others to win, Sou would still be alive.

[@АндрейСтадничук-ч1к]

unless the Floor Meister should always tell the truth, or at least not lie, then Midori tells the truth about Sara, what a really strong and manipulative person she is in worlds without Joe.

[@billclintonsmagicbeefarm]

I just finished what the game currently has last week and the brainrot has set in hard. God I really hope the last chapter is released sooner rather than later, but I can't imagine having to wait 3+ years like you guys have been. Big fan of the theories presented in this vid, you really opened my eyes to quite a few things that went over my head during my own playthrough.

[@hanh9982]

Did any of y’all notice in the beach spin-off endings, sara is like a leader and has a cold look to her? And they’re like sara has to make the final decision ? It was the Mishima in the city ending where everyone survived I think

[@Penbskaboo]

I swear to god, yttd the first three floors look like a hotel and somtimes even the 4th and 5th floor because it could make sense with an art gallery or so being there.

[@blatantslander]

23:10 Now this is quite interesting, so they nerfed Sou by giving him information about Sara being a strong rival, this gave him a lot of fears and doubts and went against the others!

[@midnalazuli793]

I've always hated the Memorandum Theory. The man from the memorandum trying to recreate the Hades Incident, except with his desired outcome of the girl he liked winning and him losing is so pathetic, and I can't fathom the idea that ASU-NARO would actually waste resources on something like that.

[@JayceCH.]

IF the man from the memorandum is the current leader, he would want revenge against the org itself.

[@Sydney_o]

Wow watching this made me realize how fricked the sou route may be. Great video

[@yourturntorant]

thank you! yeah, the sou lives route is already such a wild ride, but it just might get worse 😰

[@cameo3426]

For some reason I think there's going to the plot twist, when we think the Kanna lives Route is the good one and the sou lives one is the bad one - maybe it will be the actual opposite, where as we think is not what it seems and might be. Ig doesnt make a lot of sense, but still there's some chance it Might be true, although i don't know what would need to happen in kanna lives route to end tragically.

[@frozenlemon]

Shinobu Gokujo looks relatively similar to kai in terms of frame and hair. Probably his counterpart

[@EauDeSeduction]

I dunno if this a common theory or not, but I thought Mishima was the person depicted in the inauguration photo. He's got gray hair, wears a suit, and he's old enough for me to believe he could've been a young adult when the hades game happened. He's got a job that puts him in close proximity with teenage girls. Since his head burned off there was no blood (so maybe that was a doll). And his head was missing from the box. He also made sure he died in the practice vote, by tricking Nao into voting for him. He mentioned that choosing to become a teacher was a turning point in his life and before that he was a troublemaker or a hoodlum or something. tldr: Mishima kinda sus

[@Joetino]

There was blood in the aftermath of Mishima’s execution. Also, Sara mentioned smelling blood while Mishima was dying.

[@triangle_cat]

This is all my thoughts, but well structured! Thank you for such a perfect video!

[@Geofficino]

you are seriously one of the best i've ever seen at video essays

[@jyoshiyo]

this is all tied together so well AUGHHHH 10/10 the endings you suggested for the logic route as it stands are so cool man......... tears at my little heart. as much as people hate to admit it because their little meow meow shin is still alive in the logic route, everything in it goes so wrong. sara and shin and ranmaru all operate at their breaking points and it all goes downhill. i dont think the logic route was meant to have any happy endings to begin with and the evidence you provided makes for such incredible-sounding endings, as controversial as me saying that may be. lol. i also really appreciate how this answers the nagging question ive had as to WHY gashu wanted nao dead. as many times as i played yttd, i never really fully understood that part. like "yeah i get that nao isnt qualified to win the death game but why did she need to die so bad... what made it worth interfering with the main game?" finally getting an interesting answer that ties into deeper parts of the plot was so satisfying nice pfp btw

[@oricoriopauenthusiast]

About the meeting their doppelganger thing...If the writer of the memorandum is Shin's counterpart, what if meeting Shin means their own death, and that's why they needed to sabotage him? It would be interesting if the doppelgangers were the people in the first death game, though I suppose it would only apply to Shin/the writer....But it would be interesting. And that's even if the writer is Shin's counterpart.

[@VividVirid]

The memo honestly could be evidence that Sara could’ve partook in a prior game and died but the Sara we know is a doll which has memories taken out (like what happened to the ch.3 dolls). PS this was a very well done analysis/theory

[@yourturntorant]

that's an interesting theory! i don't quite agree with it, though, since asunaro hadn't been formed at the time of the hades incident - which is what the memorandum is most likely discussing. so dolls probably hadn't existed back then. but sara and/or the others being dolls is definitely a possibility! thanks for sharing your thoughts 💖

[@thomhtx6059]

Im a little late but the dolls can't bleed right ? And for exemple on somes game over screen you can see Sara bleeding sooo

[@VividVirid]

@@thomhtx6059 yeah that is true. I’m sure the memo has some kind of relevance for later events but maybe not with Sara herself

[@dadragoon3303]

All I gotta say is that I would love a final chapter of YTTD where it's just Sara and Sou talking to each other. The tension, the subtle attempts to gain the upper hand, would be so intriguing that I wouldn't even regret choosing Sou over Kanna. (I'd replay the game and get Kanna's ending, don't worry)

[@ivancastro3827]

In this chapter we learn that the Sacrifice and the people he choose needs to choose who will be a Doll and who will escape as a person, maybe that's the reason why he has a 0 %, he always decide to be a Doll instead of Kanna

[@avantjetaisnormal-e8953]

Great video, its been a while since i went through the theory material/first hints dropped in the less recent chapters, so the reminders at the start of the video were very much welcome ! Seeing the inauguration portrait picturing a man with white hair, a part of me is thinking back to discussions i had with fellow Mishima fans, who have suspicions about his past, that he doesnt disclose much of, wich combined with the presence of an AI for him later in the game makes me wonder if his role in the Death Game is/was supposed to be more important than his swift death makes it seem (but its probably just conjecture/proof-less hypothesis, and im not exactly a theory crafter myself). With the recent Kai installment that came up in Your Turn To Shine (also adding a new ending for the Mishima route), im also curious of what the connections are between this simulation (that Sara wants to keep going forever and ever.. maybe to see good memories of them alive after she won the death game by killing them all?) and nankidai's main installement. In any case, looking forward to your next videos in the future !

[@TurtleHeadstand]

This theory is very well done, major props to you for compiling so much evidence to make such a great video. I like the idea that Meister is Sara's father, but I really appreciate your take on the father also potentially being the writer behind the Memorandum. Here's something else that supports this theory: the writer's obsession with the schoolgirl is reflected in the father's obsession with Sara--as demonstrated in the conversation with Kai where the father freaks out over Kai's care for Sara. I'm so excited to see what happens in the final chapter. This game is amazing.

[@Daaaaj]

I really dont agree on the part "The writer wanted to sabotage sou" because Sou knowing his chance of survival actually led him to become like the writer , like almost every personality trait that we can tie to Sou and the Writer are trait sou gained AFTER knowing his chance of survival

[@kagasound3544]

One thing I do think doesn't get mentioned enough and could be very relevant is that Midori was meant to be a candidate but couldn't participate due to his death, I wonder if Midori was meant to be the writer's counterpart, and the attempts to distort Shin into him was more of a last minute (relatively) attempt to replace the writer in the second death game. Could be relevant for explaining the deviations between the two

[@chillstorm2341]

I'm thinkin' that the man who won the death game is Sara's father and that Sara could be a clone (or recreation, I should say) of the schoolgirl described in the memorandum.

[@tired_jazz_hands9232]

I think Hinako has a slightly higher chance than Shin is probably a similar situation with Kanna, IE: people wouldn’t be okay with her throwing away her life (mostly Q-taro), sympathy and attachment, character development etc And while pregame Shin super nice and computer smart, he has pretty much the same weaknesses as Hinako, WHILE being a grown man, so people aren’t inclined to care about him as much There’s also evil Sara goin around murdering people, I’ve doubted she’d spare Hinako but maybe she doesn’t go completely heartless as to kill a troubled child? Idk

[@batfreeze56]

This is an excellent analysis. Can't wait to see what you do next.

[@janamohr448]

This video is great. Im glad it was still approachable, because I had only played the game when a friend mentioned 3-1b coming out. Lots of braincells are being kicked back up. I hold a lot of doubt for the idea of just the same crime family, having two people that look so much like eachother is pretty rare unless siblings or descendents. They all died, most of which before the age to have kids, and given it was years prior that feels odd. My current guess was all of them being manipulated and molded into paralleling the prior candidates to a more thorough manner, take someone who could look similar and warp their mind their past until they fit the descriptions, have them in that 'orphanage' which could be just a place of brainwashing and ego death until they fit the mold. I find it interesting how little yttd has to do with or to say about democracy, it is very individualist in its talk about free will for being by majority. Im looking forward to whatever else you make

[@leaftart]

This is incredible honestly!! Do you plan on uploading more?? Because you should! maybe some analysis or theory?

[@ninjasonic2270]

I think there should be a third route when the game comes to a close. instead of "Emotion" or "Logic"...."Free Will" Shouldbe the third route. One in which Sou and Kanna live, one in which fate won't guide them to a predetermined result in my opinion. Outright defying the Death Game as a whole.

[@phsycorobloxian8329]

I hope there's a new game+ mode in yttd with that third route added. That would mean the logic and emotion route become simulations run as a test for what would happen if non-candidates were implemented, because I refuse to believe Asu-Naro hasn't prepared any simulations for the non candidates. They've been prepared this far for all the candidates, so why wouldn't they be prepared for non candidates?

[@sarapinkdiamond866]

i really like this theory a lot lately i have been trying to solve the whole mystery of yttd but im not that good at theories but i still wonder who is the mastermind behind all of this i guess we will learn soon

[@PandaPandaas]

omg the theory of mr Chidouin as meister and stuff makes more sense now when u consider kai's mini-story and that makes kai and sara parallels

[@darwinwatterson4568]

wow, subscribed, i cant believe this is your first video >:o ive been alone with my theories recently during this waiting period for the next (and probably final) chapter, and this is really interesting and kind of blew my mind a little towards the end, so i'll be sure to look over stuff again !! ^_^

[@oohyeahwoohyeah3137]

i wonder if shin was given a 0% chance of survival and sara, gin and keiji were always supposed to survive till the end not to recreate the first death game but rather to do the exact opposite since the people in the hades incident who represent sara, keiji and gin all ended up dying and the writer whos similar to sou ended up surviving. maybe gokujo wrote that hidden message in the boxing room in the hopes of letting them escape and destroy the criminal underworld in some way? just a hunch but i assume that could be a reason why the 3 of them are still alive while their counterparts from the first death game died then again theres no way to keep joe alive just like how the 17yo girl's best friend died according to the writer unless maybe joe AI is supposed to represent him still being alive since there should be no reason for there to be an AI of him

[@scan_dinav]

First things first, thank you for this awesome video. I'm obsessed with the Hades Incident, and I was really glad to find a video about the Memorandum Theory - and yours was awesome. I also love to see everyone reckoning about it in the comments - hope we won't be part of such a death game by thinking about it, right? Thus, I'll add my own reflexion. I came up with some similar parts of your theory, and I would also add one thing that might seem highly off-topic with what you brought up here : since Asunaro is dealing with science, and all of this Death Game has both for purpose to find a new leader for the Underworld and to lead an experiment, why wouldn't the Dummies been part of the control condition, and the current participants being the test condition ? Because I've always found it weird that participants with high rates such as Kurumada died (even though he's the only one on the first sheet to die) at their First Trial. By just looking at what we know from the victims videos, they had the hardest Trials to survive to, and besides Kugie, Megumi and Hinako who were paired with someone else, Asunaro knew that they would die in there, alone (and Hayasaka has been executed because he knew way too much about it). Plus, Asunaro knew those three that weren't alone during their First Trial were 100% going to die here because Hinako was paired with Alice who didn't gave a shit about it and just left - and that is still a mystery to me that how he went from the fifth to the first floor? 🤨 -, Megumi was with Keiji who was overthinking with his hatred whether he would left her to die or not and they did everything to make only Kanna survive and kill Kugie when they had the exact same trial than Nao & Mishima and Joe & Sara. So what I want to bring up here is that Sara and the others were chosen to be the survivors and to reproduce the Hades Incident by surviving the current Death Game so that a new leader for the Underworld can be "elected" (kinda ironic since the Majority Vote has been set to kill the other candidates). Since Dolls of all candidates exist, why wouldn't the Dummies be chosen from the very beginning, even before anyone was involved in the Death Game to meet and survive? Plus, we don't know a single thing about what could be their wishes that led them to sign the Consent Form. And, once again, as said in the game, they were unrelated to the other candidates (for those who become the Dummies). So that makes sense to me that their presence here is for nothing but to be paired with the survivors of Chapter 3. Lmaooo I know all of this is pretty minor and off-topic but I absolutely wanted to put this theory somewhere because I'm obsessed with it. (Also I think there is something related to the White Room, besides Kurumada who might have died here, crushed between the walls.) Once again, thanks for your awesome video! ❤️ And thanks if anyone reads this lmaooo

[@kingoffire105]

I truly think Meister and Sara's father are the same and he is the Mastermind, or at least I hope to avoid Gin being the mastermind.

[@obuma6459]

I just thought, the guy who wrote the memorandum and Ranmaru are very similar in their story too

[@peachy7859]

incredible video!! super concise and well presented and my mind has been blown. so excited to see what happens in the game >:)

[@AlphaPizzadog]

i think meister may be sara's actual father, and the other mr. chidouin was his doll edit: yoooo you said it!!! also the boy younger than the schoolgirl may technically also be ranmaru, although i dont know if hes actually younger than sara

[@REALMaether]

I love this video !! Your theories are really interesting and are presented in ways that make a ton of sense ! I can't wait to see what else you'll make :] ❤

[@finvaly]

May be irrelevant, but I just replayed the game and Rio describes what a doppelganger is in some detail in Reko's death scene in 2-1, up to pointing that meeting doppelgangers is an omen of death. I feel it's a core concept that's related to participants as well as floor masters

[@scan_dinav]

I also think it's a core concept... And the said Doppelgänger has to be doted of conciousness, not only being an inanimated Doll. Indeed, Sara didn't died in the Mirror Puzzle she cleared in Chapter 1 because the Doll was not living with memories, emotions and conciousness, she was just a plain doll sitting there to introduce the concept and foreshadowing it. I think it's very interesting to reckon about it. Reko's Death in Chapter 2.1. confirms it, and that also reminds me of that ending in FNAF World where there were two Fredbears. When they met, they just bugged out and exploded. The message "The same Fredbear can't occupy the same space at the same time" is written above them and also show that the Freadbear we bring is the Doppelgänger of the one who leads us through the game (but maybe it has an issue to deal with with the two kids that occupy Golden Freddy, but that's another topic). Also makes me think of the Mandela Catalogue, but once again, that's another discussion and another reference about Doppelgängers lmao. But still : to be a Doppelgänger, the figure has to be animated in order to struggle with the original one and kill them.

[@--Ch3rry-B1oss0m--]

Wow! This is really Good! I'm happy this was on my recommended

[@lamas8347]

My theory is that the writer of the memorandum is actually Sara's father which then makes him the head of Asunaro. Not only does the silhouette kinda resemble him, but it is hinted to during Kai's episode in the steam version of YTTD. In the steam version Asunaru goes up to Gashu and informs him that his sons (Kai and his adoptive son Sei/Rio Ranger) cannot both become assassins and that they'd eventually have to go up against each other to become the "right-hand man" for the head of Asunaro. Kai ends up winning and working for none other than Sara's dad as a "homemaker". This of course along with the fact that Meister's sprites look exactly like Sara's father's sprites make him extremely suspicious.

[@buckysmetalarm2400]

this is such an interesting video!! thanks for sharing! looking forward to more content from you :]

[@SleepyKatAlt]

I know I'm late, but perhaps the candidates were supposed to be doll recreations of the first group, and they are just running another simulation until they get the ending they want

[@friendly_antagonist]

I have a few questions for the game first of all how will the surviving doll (if there is obe in ur playthrough) impact the story? I also have questions on how the yabusame siblings fit in to this, specifically reko she also has a doppelganger in story so thats intsreresting maybe foreshadowing meister? Also if the one who wins becones the ruler, how would it work if someone like mishima won? Would he want to work with the ones who killed nao? Or what if gashu never killed her? Who knows haha. Lastly, mishimas head. Thats the biggest mystery so far imo

[@Pogull]

Just got this in my recommended. What a fantastic video. Work some more on audio balance and I can see you be like a big youtuber about those niche type games.

[@robriley6135]

Amazing video! Didnt think about most of this stuff. I think most people underestimate sara's ability to overcome her worst urges, and overestimate sou's ability and willingness to kill off everyone else - he is only an innocent high school kid after all. I think he cares more than he lets on, at least enough to not actively want to see them die, and even if he didnt he wouldn't be able to manipulate the vote to that degree with so little time left before the main game. I personally think that sou will eventually be convinced to fight for kanna's best intrest, aka trying to help everyone survive - maybe when he learns that she's his biological sister?

[@apollojuniper]

this video was insanely well written and i agree with a lot of your points!!! looking forward to more :D

[@georgespiggott5615]

I think Sara is a doll of the teenage girl from the original game

[@georgespiggott5615]

@No, that's wrong. they do look pretty similar, they just have slightly different hairstyles (both ponytails tho)

[@asenarine]

this game is so damn crazy

[@PIMKAMINA2]

if the leader of AS was planning a second death game and was still obsessed with recreating that high school girl, there's no reason not to believe that the reason Sara is so similar to that girl is because she was rasied to be like her from the first moment, literally groomed into that potential status. it's possible her entire life was planned out to lead to the death game from the start.

[@-violet-601]

i also want to mention that shinobu gokujo kinda reminds me of kai

[@doveskris9613]

"keep in mind this is a grown man obsessed with a school girl." The fandom: S O U Which could be correct tho- if you think about it most his actions could of been to get saras attention

[@thvstral]

yes but wouldn't sou's actions get the attention of Sara to distract her? I can see your point on it though because Sara is a contradictory of sou himself and his counter-part shin tsukimi WAIT BUT I CAN SEE THAT ASWELL!! even so, maybe shin has a admiration for Sara but in a disguise by hate?? idk how to explain fully but it could be that possibly

[@doveskris9613]

@@thvstral that's a pretty good view on it hopefully one day we can be told if these theories the fandom have made are correct or not

[@oak6815]

great analysis video fr :D

[@Ramsey276one]

4:30 XD *PLEASE YEET THE CASE*

[@MrPlayer37]

I still think that the friendly policeman is sara's actual dad

[@MrPlayer37]

Yknow, orange hair, saras addopted, maybe shes in the game because keiji wished that he could meet the policemans "son" and give him the luck charm

[@TheSoulCalledZuzia]

@@MrPlayer37 I'd be a great twist

[@voidfulunarxecularity8726]

holy shit if the yttd memorandum theory with the writer's true motives is true than i prefer the sou lives route rather than the kanna lives route goddamn edit: shit never mind both routes are going to be bittersweet bruh

[@oveliaeinsberg9838]

I feel this entire game is a recreation of the first killing game inside of an advanced simulation where sacrifice cards kills a participant for real, but sages, companions and other card types won't kill, only bring despair and pain to the point of wanting them to die. The simulation goes into a loop until Sara can break it. I don't think Kai is dead actually. I think he's trying to assist Sara outside of the simulation or behind the shadows. YTTS is a sub game, though I feel YTTS endings are telling us something from the main game.

[@oilcrab]

I love this video please make more lmao

[@deadend4youhmm600]

"Meister" means btw "Master". Its german ^^

[@HoneySyrupp]

How have i played this whole game in full and missed the mentions of asunaro and the hades informent😀

[@barbariska_an]

I don't understand how Sara "manipulated" Ranmaru into doing what he did in Shin's route? She explicitly tells him NOT to try and save only them both, right??? am I don't understand this dialogue bc I'm autistic..?

[@Ncorpsnails]

i was gonna make a shin joke but i cant think of something funny

[@jjnmanfredlover]

Is "Kai alive" theory still relevant?

[@BoneMeal.12]

oh yeah! Keiji just said "Kai came to this floor" then proceeded to never say anything about it ever again. Could kai be the body behind the glass in miley's room?

[@DaniPino7020]

@@BoneMeal.12 Actually Keiji meant that Kai was there before the first main game (before he suicided)

[@dishwater.]

IDK BUT I BELUEVE IT SM

[@BoneMeal.12]

@@DaniPino7020 Dang I didn’t even think of that- thanks for clearing that up!

[@yourturntorant]

i've only recently seen this theory floating around, but i don't believe in it, myself. kai being alive wouldn't add to the story in any meaningful way - it would just cheapen his death, honestly. it's important that he died when and how he did; it wouldn't make sense for nankidai to erase that by revealing that kai is alive. but that's just what i think!

[@muffatoons]

Me on my way to watch this for the second time. You get my Pog ™️ stamp 💃

[@muffatoons]

Also, what if Hayasaka was the one who wanted Sara to die? I don’t know, though.. but he did seem guilty whenever Sara was around..

[@glitchyglitchy3925]

How do you mispronounce the name of a character with only one syllable? But there are interesting ideas that I agree with. I too think the "game balance" reasoning is bs. It simply doesn't add up when you look at which characters qualify for "help" in the first place, but combine that with the fact that "only candidates are qualified to win," and it's clear that something is wrong. Of course, it's all explained by that memorandum- it's not their lives that are important but their deaths. More specifically, how their deaths influence the actions of the candidates. Why is that the case? Although The Company likes to present itself as a single, unified front, there is evidence of discord and fractures among the members. The death game is what unified The Company, so it makes sense that certain people would want to recreate it to select a new winner to eventually rule. However... On the other side, you have the memorandum writer, whose goal isn't to find his heir so much as it is to "recreate" the girl who was killed by the death game in his youth. By the way, he might be middle aged now, but his age probably wasn't that different from Sara's when their game happened, if he's meant to be Sou's counterpart. I also agree there are strong parallels between Sou and The Writer, and it's the real reason for his fixed 0.0% win rate. Above all, he doesn't want the same outcome to happen. There was also something interesting said by Midori... "Asu-Naro makes dolls to face the dead." Why? For who? The writer, obviously. A super advanced AI and an unageing doll body that can be easily replaced, and the "high school girl" can live forever. Unlocking the secrets of immortality, the oldest trope in storytelling. You know, even though we've finally been told the pasts of many characters, there's someone whose past is still strangely obscured- the past of Sara herself. I believe that will be important in the final segment, should that ever release. As for Meister... I think there isn't any doubt that he's the ruler of the underworld and Asu-Naro. His name literally is "master." His relation to Sara's father... I'm not completely convinced they're the same person, but are related in some way. It's entirely possible Sara's father was never human at all, but himself was a creation of The Company meant to watch over Sara until the start of the game. Perhaps, like Kai, he got too attached to her and wanted to abandon the game and the company altogether, but running from an organization with roots in every industry would've been nearly impossible. However, they're related in some way for sure. The location of Sara's father as a floor master is also interesting, and he's dressed in very similar colors to Gashu. In at least one instance, Sara's father was the the third floor's floor master. This developer doesn't do coincidences. I wonder if they'll ever finish the game.

[@rory3677]

Sorry if u already mentioned this I haven’t finished the video yet but😭 I feel like the guy from the hades incident is Sara’s dad?? Esp with his obsession with her (like how we see him lash out at kai over her) and them not even being blood related plus the silhouette sort of looks similar?!3!¥] Wlso him being heavily implied to be involved with the death game

[@rory3677]

Omg u did we r literallt so smart wow 😭😭🔥🔥🔥

[@rory3677]

Its such an interesting theory and there’s so much hinting at it honestly I rlly hope that it’s the outcome

[@bluefacestan1826]

I think gin is a doll meant to be everyone helper to make sure not everyone losses their humanity

[@mayonaka4115]

But we saw him bleed

[@shlotaku]

I know I shouldn't watch this since I am still not finished with chapter 3 part 1-B and I only JUST posted the sub-game on my channel but... I like this video so far !

[@collinistyping]

Great video! My one problem with the idea that all these people are being raised as potential leaders of Asunaro is how piss poor of a way to raise a leader it really is. Not only do none of the participants seem willing to head an evil organization, they've all been given the chance to live ordinary lives which have now been taken from them. It's far easier to start indoctrination the early back in someone's life you go. We see this play out in mob families in real life, people are born and raised in them, that lifestyle surrounds them from a young age and many mob raised kids become at the very least desensitized to it and at worst become party to it they as they age. As a way to raise a mafia boss this could work, but it drastically overcomplicated a relatively simple process. Obviously the facts point to the memorandum killing game being the Hades incident, but I've never liked it as a concept because it doesn't make a lot of sense realistically. I hope we get more info on that peculiarity in the final chapter. I'm personally hoping for an ending that's even more uncanny though.