Installing the EP Cube by Canadian Solar All in One System!! ON SALE!!

[@BobHannent]

As a Brit with our modest sized houses, I'm always envious of people who have the wall space for these things.

[@SuperVstech]

Wait… the Brit’s are always griping our houses are wood instead of stone and brick… ya mean there is something American the Brit’s like?

[@BobHannent]

@@SuperVstech oh sure, the American houses are built like the three pigs house made of sticks, but I cannot deny my envy at the space you get. I live in a small village and my 1960s house doesn't have a basement, it's just 830 sqft of living space. My modern car hardly fits on my driveway because British cars were smaller in the 60s. My garage is probably under 300 sqft. I wouldn't move to the USA but I can admire the available land from a far.

[@MrThewhip333]

We do have lots of space! Both inside and outside, England fits inside our province of Manitoba with room to spare and way less population

[@terrahillfarm]

Kudos to Canadian Solar for asking you to demo this system. Looks like a stylish, easy to set up, turn key system. Interesting they want pictures of your install. I guess that means they will actually honor the warranty if not professionally installed? That’s better than a lot of manufacturers out there today! Give us the 411 follow up after a month or so. 👍☀️⚡️💡🔋

[@AveRage_Joe]

Hell yeah Kudos to Canadian Solar! I also think it looks Fan Freakin Tastic! Ill be doing quit a few videos FO SHO!💥🤘

[@catsmeow5566]

@@AveRage_Joe It does look sleek and cool. I'll have to watch more of your videos to catch up on the solar panel stuff and figure out if that is feasible for us.

[@stans5270]

I have reservations about putting electrical components on basement floors. Every permanent structure in every basement that I have owned was lifted up 3 inches off the floor by an additional concrete slab so that any moisture [or flooding] doesn't affect the equipment. The batteries being batteries, I would lift it off the floor 6 inches.

[@stans5270]

Electrical panels have a minimum height off the ground, and batteries with connectors should also have standards too.

[@Roll2Videos]

These systems just keep getting better and better. Thank you got showing this unit 👍

[@AveRage_Joe]

Yes they DO and Thanks for Watching!!🤘

[@amudlifecrisis]

That system looks so clean! Very professional installation!

[@AveRage_Joe]

Yes it does and Thank You!🤘

[@nelsondog100]

Looks like a nice system and I was prepared to inquire until I saw the need for internet connection. For me this is a deal-breaker. I don’t want anything cyber-based attached to our power system whatsoever. Unless I’m able to opt-out, this is not for me.

[@AveRage_Joe]

You can opt out. You can still use your own wifi to connect or use blue tooth. I think the minimum "connection" to keep the warranty is every 30 days. I will ask to make sure tho so dont quote me. I know there are people out in the boonies that dont have any service. That system should be able to keep a warranty.

[@randacnam7321]

Needing an app to configure instead of the device having its own user interface is also a big problem.

[@Detonator007]

The paranoia is endless

[@nelsondog100]

@@Detonator007 yes and it’s all justified

[@Detonator007]

@@nelsondog100 Russian and Chinese spies trying to turn off your 80 inch tv ??

[@awbean5254]

AVERAGE JOE, ANOTHER GREAT & INFORMATIVE INSTALLATION PROJECT, THIS TIME ON EP CUBE! THE VERTICAL WALL SPACE ENGINEERING IS GREAT FOR SMALL HOME FLOOR SPACE FOOTPRINT! THANKS FOR SHARING!

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks! Yeah its pretty thin and does not take up much floor space!🤠🤘

[@johngermain5146]

The EP Cube looks fantastic, and has so many attractive features such as Grid Tie or NOT, Pass thru, Priority settings for panels, batteries and grid and so much more. I'm going to look into this much further

[@AveRage_Joe]

I dont want to say because I am testing out the system for free for a while but...I Love it! I can be totally off grid and only use grid if it needs to. I do wish it would show what each array is doing. At the moment it does not do that BUT like I said they are always updating/improving so maybe that will be an option in the app. I will pass that along to see if its possible.🤘

[@butchwilliams7637]

That's just pretty cool. Good Job on the install. Lots of bells and whistles. Very nice looking unit.

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks Dad and 100% looks cool!🤠

[@johnperry5960]

Another great video as always. This is a very clean looking system. Good to see you back on the tube

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks Man, Appreciate that!! Yeah had to get ready for this install and a few other things!!!😜🤘

[@JohnEFly]

Awesome video Joe. Money well spent by Canadian Solar to send this kit to you. This is the best video I've seen on these yet. Your videos have also continued to get better and better over the years. Great stuff

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thank You and Appreciate that! Its a pretty awesome system so far and is doing great! More videos to come!🤘

[@rodneysmith1750]

Great installation video Joe, thanks for sharing! I miss the old days of building your own batteries, literally. I've been a subscriber since the early days and still enjoy your style!

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks man and Appreciate that! We did make some batteries lol🤘

[@t3angling575]

Wow! That is very stylish as far as solar, batteries, and inverters go. I have come to the realization, that when I am ready to purchase and system, I definitely need to wait and get the latest and greatest. Modular design is awesome. Seems as the apps and software are much improving with these systems. Awesome video, truly appreciate your work. I must say, I missed a big Boom and explosion whilst you turned everything on!😂😂

[@AveRage_Joe]

Yeah it looks really nice! 100% agree these systems have come along way! There were a few places I wanted to throw in a 💥😆

[@dbf1dware]

@@AveRage_Joe Just one BOOM per video is all we ask!

[@AveRage_Joe]

I will make that happen moving forward!💥🤘

[@jaymacpherson8167]

Batteries, those beasts of burden. In 1975 I packaged a UPS battery bank for a Univac system that was being relocated. There were 88 batteries, each weighing 165 lbs (75 kg). That made getting them into their shipping boxes “difficult” as they could not be inverted. Also, they were lead acid. So if one of them was dropped and cracked or broke open, sulfuric acid spill would ensue. We did the job without incident…a serious relief.

[@AveRage_Joe]

That sounds like one serious system!!!

[@jaymacpherson8167]

@@AveRage_Joe Thanks for the comment Joe. It was serious, and an ad hoc temp job! My co-worker and I were both 18 and children of company employees. I was 160 lbs and she was probably 110 lbs. So together we outweighed 1 battery. We also were tasked with cleaning the company’s terminated graphite/carbon fiber research lab (a very dirty job).

[@jackdotzman2908]

Excellent video explaining how this energy storage unit works. Looks like a quality, well designed, storage unit. Thiank you for taking the time to make the vid. Very nicely done. From Missouri

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks Man! Appreciate that! What part of Missouri are you from? I was born there😀

[@AdamDeLay07]

I was wondering what you had in the works. I’ve only ever seen 1 other install of these and it wasn’t from someone who usually does solar stuff. I’ll be honest, when I hear “there’s a few hours worth of training before commissioning” that kinda turns me off. I guess it’s probably to help with common issues people experience. It does look like a very clean install though. After looking at some of the comments of people concerned that you ditched your Growatt, you’ve got the same idea I have. I’m gonna figure out how to put in a transfer switch to be able to switch between multiple test systems. Did you happen to mention what the output size of the inverter was? Maybe I missed it. How’s the response time in the app? Hopefully it refreshes more than every 5 min.

[@AveRage_Joe]

YesSirrrrr! Have been getting stuff ready for this install and doing a few other things around the house lol. Oh and also went to that Vegas thing. Anyways, Yeah the training you guessed it. Its more of online videos with a few quizzes to make sure you were paying attention 😏. I would say its more for someone who wants to become an installer. Yes my other system is all intact, just needing to throw in a transfer switch so I can switch between the 2 or 3 if you count the generator. A single inverter has 7.6kw output. Response time of the app is less then a min. More on the 30seconds time frame. I can check that tho so dont quote me lol

[@AdamDeLay07]

@@AveRage_Joe awesome! Have fun testing out the system! I’ll be looking forward to your tests. Unfortunately I have to move all my plumbing hardware (pressure tank, water heater and softener) to the other side of the room before I can set up a true “test wall”. Plumbing though is about as much fun as jumping in a tub full of scissors…so there’s no telling when I’ll get to all that…

[@RUDY3098]

This video was worth the wait. Thanks, Joe. Rudy

[@AveRage_Joe]

I appreciate that!! Thanks for watching!!🤘

[@teseract]

As a NEC N**i, I appreciate the use of anti-short bushings and metallic conduit for the PV lines. :)

[@AveRage_Joe]

LOL I appreciate you appreciating the use of anti-short bushing AND metallic conduit for the PV lines!!! I do like using that flexible metal conduit. Its just so darn expensive!!😃🤘

[@tiborchren]

BOOM-COOL DIY projects will hopefully continue.

[@AveRage_Joe]

Few more review items then YES!🤘

[@boomermatic6035]

That is one slick system, looking forward to the testing. Is the SolArk system still running? Our kitty likes to inspect and supervise all the time too.

[@AveRage_Joe]

Yes it is! I have the growatt if thats what you mean. Yeah still have all that and plan to install a transfer switch so I can use either system.🤠🤘 100% Kitty Inspections Daily!🐈‍⬛🐈‍⬛

[@boomermatic6035]

yes, growatt...lol@@AveRage_Joe

[@UnkyjoesPlayhouse]

Nice, but those are some expensive batteries.. If the invertor is worth around $2500 then the cost of the batteries is around $3100 per battery...I can build one for around $2000 for a 280ah battery, but I understand the concept and way cheaper than the Tesla wall were.

[@USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity]

You can build a piece of junk grade B 280 aH 51.2V battery for $2000. That will not include the enclosure, high temperature tape, display l, a JK 200 amp BMS, circuit breaker, terminals, miscellaneous

[@niktak1114]

​@@USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrityThis. An actual decent DIY 280Ah 48V battery costs right around $3k currently.

[@pepermintpilot1694]

Agree you can" build a piece of junk". But a simular system can be built way way cheaper than this with a JK BMS's good quality cells (QSO, or Docan) etc. My 60KW system has DC & AC circuit breakers "T class" fuses, 4 x JK BMS's, 2 x MPP 6KWh hybrid inverters etc and still came in at under $13000. By the way what has "high tempreture tape" got to do with it?@@USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity

[@mindbender50]

ahhh nope its a bit more to build yourself but can be done ... Seplos case/ bms costs 650 delivered you assemble and a sp6500 inverter for 1150 Batteries (14kw delivered for 1600 usd).. Looking at their web site for 33k system its 27000usd Build one yourself for seven grand..(that includes cabling and such) And with interest rates and inflation the way things are I would Rather build myself and Know how to repair it.. And no an easy setup and warranty is not worth the extra 20000K in these economic times... The whole idea of going off grid is to save money not be indebted to someone for the next 30 years.. Unless your trying to sell something to some one ... which is what KZbin is now... one big ADVERTISEMENT! @@USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity

[@glossyfpv1155]

Dont forget you only get the warranty if you connect to internet once a month from what hes saying. And you need to use a proprietary app. And you cant user service it when it inevitable breaks. Pretty said this is what weve come to but i saw this a mile away

[@cgutowski471]

Wow that is pretty amazing and clean install. That ‘internal standard’ grid selection was all that was needed for self consumption? Not allowed to grid tie in my NC location. Seems like a slick system.

[@AveRage_Joe]

Indeed it is😄 Most of that grid selection area is for Cali and Hi. Guess they have TONS of regulations🤷‍♂️

[@teseract]

@@AveRage_Joe HI utilities love to moan and groan about how they have too many Solar customers and that it's driving them broke as they can't make a profit anymore due to no one buying power anymore, so they make it as hard as possible. Cali is, well... Cali. They really want you to pay that 40+ cents a KWH so they can use it to generate utility taxes.

[@terrytexas8257]

Good Video Joe! We sure have come a long way since tearing down medical packs.

[@Self.reliant]

Dang that is the cleanest style of wall mounted all in one systems. Glad to see them taking note of your opinion

[@catsmeow5566]

Thank you. This is very interesting. I really want to switch over to solar at some point bc my power company sucks. LOVE the kitty at the end! Black cats are the best!

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks for Watching! This system makes it easy! Black cats are 100% the best!🐈‍⬛🐈‍⬛🤘

[@DanB3286]

Look amazing not gonna lie definitely had some sticker shock after I looked up price 9k to 22k. But looks well built and worth the money

[@craigflatley7370]

Looks like a system for my new build this summer!

[@AveRage_Joe]

Its pretty bad ass so far honestly! Need to do an update video!

[@AlexS-og3ic]

It looks nice, but needing a network connection and a phone app is a deal killer for many.

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks! It is a nice system. It would be nice if there was a little screen or something on the unit for sure. One thing I didnt mention is if the network is down and you cant connect with your own wifi for whatever reason, you can connect with blue tooth to change/view.🤘

[@orkidorkid]

That was a sleek install of a sleek system ! BTW its good to know that you are keeping your Growatt . I just got mine and I haven't installed it yet, so at first I thought you got rid of it because its not good or something 🤔 . Thank you for your great videos.

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks Man! Oh no not gettin rid of the growatt. Im gonna install a transfer switch so I can use either!😲😆🤘

[@chuxxsss]

I have to install my free replacement from Growatt. Thanks to there head tech here in Australia 🇦🇺 .

[@rollover36]

Just spent half an hour watching a video of something I can't have, well done

[@jimginnyohio]

Nice and clean! Simple installation. Looks great! I like it!

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks Man! Its a pretty sweet system!🤠🤘

[@dougmcclelland6139]

congrates on the install. You have to be connected to the grid to start ??. I will stay with Outback Thank you.

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks Man! Yeah they say a grid connection to start it but I think it could be a stable 240v connection from a genny or inverter🤠 Yeah Outback is pretty great setup!

[@tomstdenis]

14:03 in many jurisdictions the solar breaker has to be at the BOTTOM of the panel specifically the furthest from wherever grid power joins the panel

[@cgutowski471]

That is only for back feeding to grid. He’s using an interlock which must be on top. This only allows one power source to energize the panel.

[@AveRage_Joe]

Yeah @cgutowski471 got to it before I did. That panel I am backfeeding just like you would with a generator. The other breaker however is installed at the opposite end of the main panel which the EP Cube can also backfeed.🤘

[@wasupfool5692]

This is the only way id ever go solar, being able to store power for when power goes out is a must

[@LogansRun314]

Loved watching the video and appreciate the install and details. However, when you mentioned you can only communicate with it through an app, that's a hard NO for me and many others. I've, unfortunately, had the pleasure of experiencing many hurricanes over the last 12-15 years. A few of them left us without cell service and internet for days/weeks. I'm not relying on my cell phone to(monitor/revise) the power of my house. The phone can compliment my $20,000+ off grid system, but it shouldn't make or break it.

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks and Appreciate that. I understand what you are saying and a screen or a way to change/view settings right on the unit would be great. Since the video was getting to be so long I didnt have time to say ALL the things. So yes, you need a phone or tablet to view and change settings. If your internet goes down, that is ok. You can still view/change settings from your own LAN WIFI. If you turn off that circuit in your home to save on power then you can log in/connect with blue tooth.🤘

[@LogansRun314]

@@AveRage_Joe Still a great vid. My algo recommended your channel and this was the first video of yours I saw.

[@AveRage_Joe]

Awesome! Thanks for stopping in and watching! I appteciate it!👊

[@jcdcintheaz5576]

You know what I'm going to ask... When you do those load tests, make sure to test imbalanced loads. I always like to compare new inverters to Schneider and that is the BIG differentiator. The install looks great! Do they have a setup for off-grid?

[@AveRage_Joe]

I will try and do that actually. I usually forget that lol so thanks! You can use this off-grid for the most part however you will need to connect when you set it up. I know you need internet connection to commission, update and a "grid" connection at the start. After that I dont think you technically need anything. If you have a local area network with wifi then you could still use the app to see SOC. If you used a generator to charge then that wifi connection would be great to have.

[@paulcurtis5496]

Like# 8 - I wonder if you can put together 2 maxed out systems in parallel or would have to separate

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks Man! Yeah you can parallel in to increase power/capacity EASY!!!

[@paulcurtis5496]

@@AveRage_Joe wow, so if you could vertically align the stack, you could really get to 2 weeks reserve power! What is the chemistry, what I love about the Big Battery Rhino is you could get a surprise visit from somebody with a drill and no problem… 🤔😱😝

[@clarencewiles963]

I would have said go with it. Clean the wall and put it up. Time of use is getting to be a big factor for saving money. Charge it up at night when it’s cheap and run the battery during the day when the grid is expensive. That’s what I heard.

[@AveRage_Joe]

I would think many would also say the same to be honest. Thats what I am hear also for time of use. The hole reason they did the ep cube lite. I guess it was a big request from the people!

[@ericnewton5720]

That’s a nice looking system. I was just thinking yesterday, that I like the modularity of victron but I would like a system that looks clean. This system looks clean. And rival’s victrons monitoring.

[@b___a___7___i___t]

Canada very cool snow ice country solar panel attached snow daily can 100 percent load up in cool area

[@MD.ImNoScientician]

Great installation as always AveRage Joe! We always appreciate your eye for detail. It's amazing how much simpler these all-in-one systems are getting. One day we'll all be able to install these type systems. (Or pay someone knowledgeable enough to do it for us.)

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks Man! These systems sure have come a long way the past few years. It was fairly easy to install as well. Soon everyone will have some sort of system!😀

[@timothyflynn]

Did I miss it did you gut your old system for this? Really simple install. The gateway is so roomy in there. I'm having a hell of a time flying my drone now due to its reliance on phone apps and that has me a little skittish for how these systems will hold up that depend on phone apps.

[@AveRage_Joe]

No I still have my other system. This is a long term test drive!🤘I have never flown a drone so I cant say. It would be cool to have a lil screen jic the app didnt work like you mention.🤔

[@rebeltexan1704]

Joe..... AWESOME! I'm so glad that I found your video and this is exactly the system I've been looking for and your video is awesome thank you so much! Do they also offer a FULL package with solar panels?

[@AveRage_Joe]

Well.....Im glad it was some help!😄 Yeah Signature Solar does offer a full package with solar. Just remember to use my aff link on checkout😉😉🤘

[@onthelake9554]

Wow Joe , next level production , very nice.

[@AveRage_Joe]

😆🤘Only get to hold it for a while!

[@onthelake9554]

@@AveRage_Joe Maybe we can convince them it needs long term testing . 🕒🤙

[@AuslandLiving]

Excellent video and installation Joe. I wonder if these be available for us here in Australia. :) Love the tidy finish to it, even the plastic wrapping. lol

[@frankbezemer8405]

Hi Joe. So, do you HAVE to use the app? What would happen if the company goes bust and the app disappears from the app store? Is it all ewaste from then on? Look at what Sonos does, they pull support for their older products, all ewaste after only a few years. Is there a guarantee from EP Cube on how long they will support the hardware, and is everything registered to you personally, so you are unable to sell anything on?

[@glossyfpv1155]

This is a MAJOR issue that im sure non of these reviewers will talk about. Anything that REQUIRES an app should be an immediate return. We dont need any more non user servicable items on the market

[@AveRage_Joe]

Those are some great questions and I will try to get some answers. I would imagine since its Canadian Solar it would be around for a while with improvments along the way but hey...you never know right!👊

[@AveRage_Joe]

IDK...I mean many people just want a working system with an easy to use app that shows whats happening with the system. Many dont. It could go both ways. I wish it was more customizable and or showed more info about what each solar string is doing.💁‍♂️

[@johngermain5146]

I like the ability to handle up to 600V peak from the PV system, or 550 VDC typically. A unit that accepts Utility power, Generator power, and PV power is another powerful feature. A very attractive unit with small size considering the power output. Still, pricey in my opinion

[@AveRage_Joe]

Yeah the HV PV is really nice. Less wire is great compared to everything Ive done in the past. All the options it has is pretty amazing. Can also do EV off the smart gateway to if needed. Pretty sweet system!🤘

[@shadowmoon7763]

Nice job on the install, and presentation. At 23:45 you mention the CT cubes, would you explain how they are used, and maybe make a video on how they are installed and utilized. Keep up the good work.

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks. The CT clamps are current sensing clamps/sensors and they just clip on. You "flip open" the sensors to slip around you mains wires and then snap them shut. I actually have 2 different kinds lol. The black ones are used with the EP Cube and used when installing the system for a partial home backup. That means when you are powering a sub panel like I did. This way of install will still power EVERYTHING in the home including the mains panel. If the grid goes out, those CT"s sense along with the gateway the grid is out and then stop powering the main panel but still continue to power the subpanel. The white CT's used in my panel are the Emporia smart energy home monitor. I purchased it a while back so I could see how much power certain things were using which also allows you to track over time. I wanted to see how much power my AC, Stove and Dryer used so I could calculate how much solar and battery I would need. This is the Emporia and is an aff link btw -> amzn.to/46DXcyx

[@OffGridandOutdoors]

Can it be used exclusively off grid? Or are there better be options.

[@AveRage_Joe]

I believe so for the most part BUT you would want some sort of connection to commission it and to get the update. If you want the warranty then I think you need to connect internet once a month. You would also need a "grid" connection at the beginning during commissioning but I think that could be a generator. I could make sure tho and if there is anything else.

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

Great video, my friend. Setup looks gorgeous, neat and tidy, love it! I think we're sharing the same plastic fetish when pulling off these protections films 😂

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks Man Appreciate that! It is a super clean and tidy system. Who doesnt have a plastic fetish from time to time!😲😜

[@andrzej3511]

I cannot judge the technical capabilities of the EP Cube system based on this video. A short snapshot from the app on a smartphone is definitely not enough for me. But I can say a lot about the external appearance. The designers at EP Cube did a great job. If the installation had been professionally carried out UNDER PLASTER (I mean that the necessary PVC and steel pipes ARE HIDDEN and do not disfigure the home "power plant"!), the system would delight with its elegant simplicity! This appearance is the path to market success, it is the path to the future.

[@AveRage_Joe]

More videos will come for sure and we can do some load testing, power outage testing ect... I do agree that it looks great. I like the look of the conduit showing but thats me. If I were installing it on drywall or plaster, yeah you could hide the conduit.

[@AlexanderBell1847]

Thanks for the detailed installation video. I'm considering this system with two inverters and 5 batteries each (you need 5 batteries to get the 7.6 KW output power when you don't have solar panels) for a whole home back up (so no sub-panel) as I'm mainly interested in instant backup and I may add solar panels in the future but not sure yet. However, I need to connect high consumption equipment (i.e. EV charger and A/C units) directly to the EP Cube gateway. How many circuits does it allow ? (I think the right term is load shedding)

[@geekdomo]

Really clean install! Kinda jealous how good and clean this looks compared to my system with 2 inverters and 2 sub panels.

[@AveRage_Joe]

It does make a nice clean install. I bet with another stack it would still look great! What system do you have?

[@geekdomo]

@@AveRage_Joe I went with Sunny Boy for my Grid Tie inverters. I have one 4500w and another that is 5500w. I did my install in phases so main house roof was phase 1 and it has only 160w panels and the Sunny Boy 4.0US. Then I installed 360w panels on my garage and built a studio that I put more panels on also 360w. Total is 10kw. I would love to redo my main house panels with 360s and then do something Nice like this EP Cube. All of my panels are Canadian Solar. Was kind of shocked how inexpensive it was compared to a Tesla power wall. Thanks for the great indepth build guide.

[@racingtogreen2023]

Beautiful. More than I'd spend, I think I'm at around 1/3 of that $ into my 10kw system(not UL, offgrid, so apples and oranges), but really nice.

[@bradzimmer239]

Was really interested in this product until you mentioned it could only be controlled by an app. That's about as effective as electric door locks and swipes when the power goes down and you can't gain access inside your home.

[@Dmkjr]

I like the look of this system. And the app looks pretty sleek.

[@AveRage_Joe]

100% Agree!😄🤘

[@Dmkjr]

@@AveRage_Joe do an update after running it for awhile. I won’t switch my system out, just too much invested, but I help friends and family set theirs up all the time.

[@Sylvan_dB]

What do you mean, to turn it on you need to have grid power? If that's true, it would be interesting to see how hard it is to get around that requirement. Pipe your growatt in to the grid input?

[@AveRage_Joe]

I think all it needs is a 240v input. So yeah the growatt or a generator would work!😄🤘

[@MegaRobert250]

That thing is very compact nice

[@artdell]

That was a really good video, thank you, I was considering this system, it will be my first, what are you running in your house with just 1 inverter and 5 batteries ?

[@thedabbler2753]

Slick! Looking forward to seeing how it does in the outage test and so on. Is the Growatt and all your previous kit hiding in the corner feeling sorry for itself?

[@AveRage_Joe]

Yeah its slick alright! Yeah growatt is still up on the wall. Will install a transfer switch so I can use either or😲🤠

[@ToddDesiato]

Great job! I'm doing a similar video this week to install a Hoymiles Hybrid inverter and battery. Very cool! (half the price)

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks!! AWESOME, Let me know when you do as Id Love to see it. I think I saw there system at that RE+ Expo😎

[@xnizonyt]

I wonder if that transfer is fast enough to protect computers and electronics. Have you tested it much?

[@AveRage_Joe]

Yeah its fast and yes, I have flipped the main breaker to test it. I plan to make a follow up video here real soon and can show that.

[@waltdisneypixar]

So playing with the ps5 it won't turn it off?

[@AveRage_Joe]

My computers, TV, router, modem ect all stay on.🤘

[@xnizonyt]

@@AveRage_Joe awesome, thanks for the update!

[@jamesroyal3389]

As always great content and I can't wait until the next update

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks Man and I appreciate that!!! Update soon!!💥😃🤘

[@MattLesak]

Congrats on the long term temporary setup! Nice video and I liked the smash button 💪

[@OffGridGarageAustralia]

There is nothing more permanent, than a temporary setup! My 1 week temporary solar panel installation still leans against the pool fence after 1.5 years😁

[@TheUweRoss]

Training and connectivity requirements are much like Enphase. In other words, this isn't meant as an inexpensive DYI system, but you can DIY it if you take the time to do the on-line training.

[@AveRage_Joe]

Yes 100% correct!🤘

[@dbf1dware]

Honest question that just occurred to me... when your PV array is producing more electricity than you can use or store in your batteries, where does that excess go? Assuming not feedback into the grid... where does it go? I'm guessing the PV panels or controller or whatever just throttles the PV output. But even so, at the panel level, where does the power go?

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thats a great question! I think with older controllers it would be dumped into a dummy load in the controller. With this...🤷‍♂️ Ill have to see next time its full charged and a good amount of sun. Put a clamp meter on the wires and see what it shows.🤘

[@fredfrond6148]

Nice clear installation instructions in your presentation.👍

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks and Appreciate that!!🤘

[@sma92878]

Do you need to be a licensed electrician to take the installation course? I would prefer to set up the system myself after taking the class and then have an electrician do the final connection to my home. Great video and kind regards.

[@AveRage_Joe]

You do not need to be an electrcian to take the course. Its videos with a few quizzes. Its mainly to familurize you with the system, how to hook it all up ect. You can 100% install it and have an electeician do the final connections. Thanks for watching btw🤘

[@davidkolody8757]

Excellent video on the installation and operation of the system! Looking forward to the video of the generator hookup. I’m wondering if the EP cube Gateway requires a 240v generator ( I see the L1 / L2 terminals) or if it will accept a 120v feed.

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks and Appreciate that! Yeah a generator option is pretty nice. Yeah it will require a 240v connection as far as this moment in time. They are always upgrading so who knows, maybe a 120v will be an option.🤘

[@punksjutgbd]

I have the EP Cube as well. It's a wonderful system. 👍

[@AveRage_Joe]

100% Agree!👊

[@WiSeNhEiMeR-1369]

HOWdy A-V-A-J, ... Thanks for the UN-Boxing & Review ... COOP ... the WiSeNhEiMeR from Richmond, INDIANA ...

[@Count_Smackula]

This is so cool! Much more innovative than Tesla's powerwall. I'll never need something this elaborate/expensive, but it's still amazing. Our electric bill is

[@AveRage_Joe]

Yeah it is. Cheaper then a tesla powerwall too! $800 electric bill is pretty good/cheap if you ask me!

[@valramsingh8360]

what a timely video..will need 6 ..for a 120kwh system

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks for watching! Now is a good time as they are on sale! Affiliate link down below😉😉😲

[@Bowhunters6go8xz6x]

Pretty awesome video and your sense of humor, first time viewing any of your videos. Question - I noticed that the EP Cube inverter in the (All In one) has a TIGO connector, so is it compatible with Tigo solar optimizers? I kind of want to have individual monitoring on the solar panels to show individual panel production. What are you going to use? Thanks !

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks for watching. Yeah it has the tigo RSD. I am pretty sure it works with the optimizers but can check. I believe you need to use the tigo app to see individual production. I am using TS4-A-2F on one string at the moment and they allow 2 panels for one rsd unit. They dont show any production tho. Still need to add them to the other roof string. I will also add that EP Cube has updated the app and you can now see each string production. Thats a plus because before it just showed a total for all strings added.

[@ricardofuentes6409]

What if you already have a 20k diesel generator installed with an automatic 100 amps , ASCO transfer switch ?

[@loucinci3922]

Nice clean install. Was this installed on another wall of your basement?

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks! Nope, fresh wall install!🤠🤘

[@emilmike]

On a Sol-Ark 15K you can power you panel via Grid, Battery and Solar all at the same time, and if the Grid goes down, you don't need to use an interlock to disconnect the Grid and use your inverter to power loads because the Sol-Ark 15K has an internal disconnect that can sense via CTs when the Grid is down. Moreover, the Sol-Ark 15K can pass through 200A from the Grid which allows you to run a whole house panel behind it, have a Grid Tie in front of it, and allow power from Grid, Battery and Solar all at the same time, then disconnect from the Grid when the CTs sense a power-outage, but still allow you to power you whole house panel via Solar and Battery (with Generator connections available to recharge batteries if batteries run out because of a lack of solar). So in the EP Cube, it looks like there is no Grid passthrough, as your backfeed breaker must be off via the interlock if Grid power is on. Thus you have no way of combining Grid, Solar and Battery all at once. Is that true? Must say though, the EP Cube is one sexy beast versus the plain jane Sol-Ark 15K plus a host of batteries to which it can connect. Appreciated your video.

[@huhcom]

I would like to know this as well.

[@dfrazao8627]

Maybe I missed it but how much did that system cost including and excluding the solar panels.

[@zaldyballaret305]

I’m planning to bring this back home in the Philippines my problem is their no internet connection in my area and how much the prize and I would be needed two because 240v standard. Thank you

[@davidfig6357]

If it were me I would have set the battery up one unit higher so that if I needed to add a battery I would only have to add it from the bottom. Rather than moving the controller up.

[@mpirokajosephmgcokoca2355]

Easy installation. Stunning look

[@AveRage_Joe]

100% Agreement!🤘

[@DanielMartinez-lu5ht]

So the subpanel was on 100 amps and you got it down to 60 amps?

[@1sysop198]

From your Big battery setup to now this EP Cube which is better in your opinion?

[@raymondeargle8653]

How did you make sure no wire,water, data, plumming were clear from area?

[@leomartinez1213]

Can the EP Cube run a house just with the batteries off grid completely. Also can it be set up without the grid? I seen you needed the grid for set up.

[@glenwray6737]

Awesome video!! Do you have a link for the CT Clamps?

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks! Those CT clamps come with the system.

[@billceve9830]

you are using 6 AWG from smart gateway to the sub panel....so is that sub panel only 50 amps? you are using 2 awg from the main panel to the smart gateway unit... that has capability of 90 amps. If your sub panel is only 50 amp, that is not very much capacity.. So I am assuming you are only running the 6 awg to the sub panel since the single inverter only has 7.6 kW output. If you wanted to run a higher capacity sub panel, you would need to use a 2 inverter (15.2 kW) system.... is that correct?

[@happyhsu140]

Hi average Joe, I am jack , jack of all trades.

[@chrisgibson4292]

Enphase tried but coupent out do Tesla power walls its easy to install commission and fairly convertable. This is an interesting looking system

[@AveRage_Joe]

Yeah it is! Thanks for watching!🤘

[@XxmasteerdclassxX]

Question... If I have an electric stove and a 36Kbtu AC mini split in a separate none-backup panel (connected to grid all time) and I also have "net metering" setup, could this damage my system? I know that current cannot flow in two directions same time, so when the air conditioner and stofe are on, "net metering" should not work. But could this damage my system? I am posing this scenario because I would like to extend battery life.

[@AveRage_Joe]

It shouldnt damage anything. I have 2 different hybrid setups on at the same time and all is good. I do have a question tho. What is your other system. If its just a grid tie system, you could probly add it to this system as this allows existing AC coupled to be connected right to it.

[@stevied3226]

Amazing video! Great install

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thank You and thanks for watching!

[@kevinroberts781]

I think you should gut the batteries and install your 18650 diy batteries. Show us what is needed to convert them.

[@AveRage_Joe]

IM ON IT!!!😆😏💥🤘

[@patriot0971]

How do you operate the system without an app ? Companies do go out of business and apps do get deprecated from various app stores. Without an offline way to operate this system, I am not sure how we can expect this system to be supported for next 20+ years.

[@dbf1dware]

At about 10:45 as he was pulling off the plastic, I said, "oh, soooo sexy." And 1 second later, he said, "super sexy." Ah, nerds of a feather.

[@AveRage_Joe]

😆😆💥🤘

[@AndreAndre-ud6dj]

Wow this video is very good and cool, does the system can combine aeolian with solar too ??? And what is the cost of this install ???

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thanks appreciate that. I am unsure if you can combine solar. I dont think so but will try to find out. Minimum cost for this system alone includes 3 batteries and is $11,369.00 from Signature solar at the moment. With 5 batteries that I am testing out is $14,599.00.

[@URackADisciprine]

EP Cube is great but still WAY overpriced compared to the EG4 18Kpv inverter with vertical wall mounted batteries from Signature Solar. They don't take much room on the wall either although not as aesthetically pleasing as the EP Cube.

[@timothymason5545]

You need the panels already for this right? Who did the panels for you? In AB, Canada

[@AveRage_Joe]

Yeah I have some old used panels Ill be using to start with. I really need to get some newer updated panels sometime. I installed them my self.

[@joeyoutdoors]

Nice install!

[@AveRage_Joe]

Thank You!!!🤘

[@A.C.71]

One thing that bothers me about these wall type units is how long will the parts be available in the future if something fails and needs replaced will I be able to get what I need years down the road whereas if using individual components I could easily find replacements and even upgrades as time goes by. Your thoughts on this? Another question, if you cant access your app for any reason than you cannot access the system but the system will still work for backup power ? And you have to have a grid connection with this or it cannot be powered on? if all this is true then for a shtf situation there is to much dependence on outside the home tech to be up and running for it to be truly dependable in my opinion.

[@AveRage_Joe]

All are great questions. Ill be doin another video here soon and will answer some of those questions. For a true shtf situation, I would go with another system as you could add rando mix and match batteries to an inverter and have power. Id have to see if I could patch in batteries to this system. If I could, I dont think the %SOC would read correctly but I would be ok with that lol The app uses your local wifi network so if interwebs is down you can still access it. If your local wifi is down you can connect bluetooth. I know you need grid connection for inital startup, I havent checked if it will startup without grid since I have been using it. I will check tho

[@jatinpatel4234]

Two Qs: 1. How to use these batteries if i already have hybrid inverter? 2. Is the config you shown is AC coupled or DC? Thx!!

[@jatinpatel4234]

It would be nice if you can reply?

[@AveRage_Joe]

Sorry, lots of videos with lots of comments😄 What kind of hybrid inverter do you have? Is it basically for AC couples solar? If so it can connect up to the gateway. Yes I am using DC coupled solar.

[@jatinpatel4234]

Yes it’s AC coupled inverter…

[@AveRage_Joe]

I want to make sure I give you the correct info(since I dont have AC coupled) Let me find out and get back to you. If I havent replied, please bump this!