Metal Gear Solid 4 Is Better Than You Remember

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[@AC-hj9tv]

How do these compare to Purple mattresses? Ty

[@hoshangmerzanazar2317]

hey, just want to let u know that in th epilogue u say that "otacon used the nanomachines into tricking himself that he was liquid" but u meant to say "ocelot"

[@connorberry6926]

🥲

[@AngryDuck79]

​@@hoshangmerzanazar2317irony is that around the 1:30:00 mark he does the opposite and keeps referring to Otocon ad Ocelot.

[@CoolDadSweaters]

I remember begging my dad to let me play this when he got his PS3. Took 2 months of badgering to finally get him to say yes. I had no fucking clue what metal gear was, just knew it looked cool. 30 hrs later I’m crawling through the microwave hallway, bawling my eyes out. MGS4 is a magical game.

[@sandywarren3656]

I cried too.

[@MatthiasAI]

Hekyaa! I remember mashing for my life at that spot after buying a ps3 with one of my first paychecks in life lol

[@GodHatesXbox]

Man I begged my dad to let me play MGS2 on the PS2 & he finally let me & I beat it before he did & got married to the franchise. I’m not sure he even remembers the games these days lol

[@fattiger6957]

I always remember it being good. I actually love its super long cutscenes and crazy plot twists.

[@YourFavoriteSon1]

Probably my favorite part

[@datelovuelta]

Yeap, i rememberer it been super good and intricate, all the time i found a new mechanic, or something new, an interaction....it was and it is a great video game

[@SECONDQUEST]

Same.

[@21forevergone]

Same... this was a magnum opus to me even with its low points

[@skrotosd]

Everyone who says he didn’t cry during the final confrontation with liquid is a liar

[@gimonkey98]

"Snake... had a hard life. He needs some time to rest" (Otacon, MGS4) To this day that quote hits the most and is why I want this game ported so bad.

[@thescatologistcopromancer3936]

We gotta let Snake die

[@MrBoogiemoney]

NEVER​@@thescatologistcopromancer3936

[@ConnorHavok]

"I wonder if we'll ever see him again"

[@Dekead1930]

It has to be in the next collection! Could only be a couple of years or so!

[@Zeiru]

Fun Fact: The Shadow Moses chapter was handled almost entirely without Kojoma's input, being truly built from the memories of the younger dev members and their passions for MGS1.

[@xXN0SK1LLZXx]

Good old Kojoma

[@Zeiru]

@@xXN0SK1LLZXx Hadeo Kojoma, the world's best. :-D

[@stephensanders2104]

FUN FACT tell your friends tell your family oh baby metal gear 4 will be on other systems

[@Zeiru]

@@stephensanders2104 Gimmie a HELL YEAH!

[@m4hlovetoeat]

@@stephensanders2104mgs4 is the worst mgs game.

[@GreedoShot]

what i remember about MGS4: my roomate would walk by as i played in the living room, sometimes watch for a couple minutes. every time he was there a cutscene was playing. after two weeks of this he stopped next to the tv, looked at me, looked back at the tv, then back at me and asked "do you ever actually play?" i eventually beat the game and he watched most of the final cinematic with me, to this day he has never seen any MGS4 gameplay, and he isn't convinced there even is any

[@JohnSyzlack]

MGS4: Too much story MGS5: Not enough story Kojima: Throws up hands in frustration Everyone has an opinion to what I said, clearly.

[@morningstar577]

That's why MGS3 is the best game in the series. It has the right amount of story

[@Jose-se9pu]

In a world where MGS3 exists, you know a balance can be achieved.

[@Yeshua_is-Cool]

That's why he left

[@TheRetroPerspective]

MGS4 doesn't have too much story, it has too little gameplay and that gameplay is awful.

[@Donovarkhallum]

5 has th best gameplay hands down

[@Lanewreck]

"Snake.... had a hard life..... he needs to rest." *IM NOT JUST CRYING, WE ALL ARE!*

[@BigBoss-sh2jx]

Makes me cry every time

[@autocrat9791]

War has changed 🚬🗿

[@DrPlatypusMan]

Surely this line is a response to Fallout's "war never changes"?

[@alexandernoviello9557]

Dig the moai head. Gunna assume that was an intentional reference

[@n0vi]

@@alexandernoviello9557 konami asf

[@alexandernoviello9557]

@@n0vi dude, novi as fuck

[@Griffolion0]

Just a note that if you tranq the B&B bosses health down in their second phase you don't kill them, they curl up and go to sleep.

[@FhtagnCthulhu]

This is the correct action.

[@Techghoul23]

i wish idve known beforehand

[@MrLlama-rc8nj]

Literally am restoring a PS3 just because of this game. I've watched through this story dozens of time and it never ceases to amaze me, and I firmly believe if it was at the very least rereleased on modern consoles it would almost singlehandedly revive the series

[@YourFavoriteSon1]

It's the only one that you can't play very easily without emulating at this point. Such a shame.

[@eank3429]

this video made me pull the trigger and buy a ps3 just to replay

[@laparkagames9277]

I always remember this game as a masterpiece, are you telling me it's a super masterpiece?

[@YourFavoriteSon1]

Of course

[@JameboHayabusa]

I completely disagree with Revengeance doing Raidens story dirty. He was always going to regress back to who he was. Thats been a major running theme the entire series. Soldiers truly never leave the battlefield. Revengeance perfectly wraps up his arc by letting him be who he truly is while still using his penchant for violence in a good way.

[@TheKrowkaBoo]

@@JameboHayabusa Why even Solid could retire at the end but no Raiden?

[@computaterjones]

​@TheKrowkaBoo because solid was basically 80 and deepfried in the ai room. He couldn't do anything else. Raiden is a military experimental cyborg that costs a metric fuckload of money to maintain. There's literally nothing he could do to survive outside of military work. He still doesn't have any skills outside of being a soldier to integrate into society. Revengence even has a plot point going over this. It's just a small part and very brief. It is pretty realistic, considering a lot of military technology eventually becomes available to the public.

[@NeuroticBlackSheep]

Ah, he misunderstood Revengeance? Won't waste my time with this video then.

[@sumstuff6956]

It’s not canon it don’t matter

[@blank4227]

@@NeuroticBlackSheep calm down pal, don't pretend that you don't have a "christ chan" profile pic in 2024

[@shrewmastercomics]

Mgs4 sold me on the PS3, and then no other game after it felt like it was able to utilize the ps3s hardware to the same level as Mgs4 had. Octo camo just blew my 14 year old mind at the time.

[@TheRetroPerspective]

You mean the thing that ruins the game? xD

[@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145]

@@TheRetroPerspective How are you still mad about MGS4 16 years later?

[@mzed561]

the PS3 is carried so hard by MGS4 and Demons Souls

[@OldEmixX]

I never thought Meryl or Naomi were disgusted by Snakes aged body. I think what they show is surprise and pity. Naomi even sheds a tear and I don't think you cry because you're disgusted, do you?

[@YourFavoriteSon1]

It depends on how you read the emotion, but it's effectively the same thing in the context of Snake being "The Beast".

[@Necris02]

There was also an Easter egg when fighting Screaming Mantis if you hold the playstation bouton and change your controller port to 2 snake will be paralyzed and you get a codec call from Otacon telling that it will not work this time !

[@yaldabaothofgalar2618]

Finally! Someone recognizing how amazing this entry is. 5 is also phenomenal. This fanbase can be such whiney little children. Kojima was damned if he did and damned if he didn't.

[@YourFavoriteSon1]

I quite enjoyed 5 as well. It has it's own issues, but it's a damn great sandbox stealth game.

[@notme716]

@@YourFavoriteSon1if you keep talking I might reinstall it and lose more of my life

[@-pressxtostart-]

How can the fanbase be children when we grew up playing in the 90s, almost 30 years ago?

[@weavatronobservatory]

15:42 I think the octopus clip was the most important of the commercials because it explained how the OctoCamo works with the environment. It may have felt out of place for people, but like the other commercials it foreshadows what’s to come, like subtle beauty and the beast unit references.

[@kevo300]

One thing I really liked about 4 was the urban war environment being very fun to sneak in. Crawling under destroyed buildings and hiding in alleyways was very fun to stealth in, too bad you didnt do it as much in the second half of the game.

[@gbred8034]

My friend, that is no cigar. That is a cigarette. I love you dearly nonetheless.

[@nojuanatall3281]

That mistake was hilarious.

[@Auggierem]

When you're as big a boss as Big Boss. Every cigar is a cigarette.

[@J0hnT0m0rr0w]

There's a few weird mistakes he makes like that. Mistaking Otacon for Ocelot, for example. Bit weird, I assume he just does one take for the recording and doesn't feel like doing a re-record later 😂

[@aapelikananena9699]

​@@J0hnT0m0rr0wprobably just missed them in editing

[@hihellothere9569]

Friend? Thats your son

[@KORRE760]

This game had me awake at 4am on a school night crying in the middle of a seemingly never ending cutscene and I’ll always remember that as one of my favorite gaming moments in time

[@Loli-Knight]

The final fight is still one of the best finales in not only gaming (but especially gaming) but in entertainment media in general. It has got to be one of the ultimate culminations of a long running story we've ever got. It perfectly encapsulates and represents every major step the player has taken throughout the franchise (the mainline games anyways) and really makes you feel like "this is it". I love MGS4 in general, but even if the entire game was crap I'd still love it just because of that final fight.

[@zebug4762]

Agreed, and heartily at that. The closest parallel I can think of is probably Endgame's assembly of everyone, combined with Captain America picking up that hammer. That being said, while I was jubilant at Endgame's scene, it didn't even come close to the emotions that MGS 4's final fight evoked in me. The sequence before the fight itself when you watched Ocelot and Snake beating on each other was cool, but then when the theme song started, and then they mirrored each other, and then they stabbed each other with syringes... Rarely has any media made me feel so overwhelmed with emotion and pride that I was part of this circle of people who had been with the series thus far.

[@blank4227]

great comment Loli-Knight thanks for sharing

[@SolisTheSun]

I'm proud of you, Son.

[@YourFavoriteSon1]

Hope you enjoy the video!

[@mehukattti]

Or should I call you... brother

[@stevemaynard2622]

BROTHER!!

[@Daftanemone]

I’m not proud of you son

[@bokrugthewaterserpent3012]

That commercial for nanos doesn't sell me on them nearly as hard as Senator Armstrong did

[@despacito_deux]

1:51:19 Ocelot, and not Otacon, tricked himself into becoming Liquid! Amazing video great job, everytime I play MGS4 I bawl my eyes out during the whole 70min cutscene. Also I very much enjoy Paz's betrayal in PW, as well as its role in forging Big Boss' personality : He believed in one woman, who believed in war, only to be devastated when her ways led him to kill her. Then, when he found another woman to believe in and fight for, and this time one who believed in Peace, he would only be utterly disappointed, and would forego peace as an alternative as well, which is the moment the Big Boss we know is really born.

[@Cross-chan]

yo son I just gotta say you're one of my personal favorite KZbinrs and it's always a treat to see your content on the sub box, I remember finding you through your silent hill stuff and I'm happy to see things continue to go well for you here I always get some popcorn ready or order some food out for your video essays they rock and you do too!

[@ZikadaIsNothing]

back when I was still active duty in The Marine corps, I used to spend weekends in my barracks room playing this game. I always thought it was awesome.

[@SoundWaveSam]

The Steak Bentley video on MGS4 is a work of art just like this video, just told from the other perspective. I think he said it best "It's not so simple as 'Fukushima on the first 3 is good and him not being there makes the writing bad.' That's correlation, not causation, baby."

[@YourFavoriteSon1]

I haven't seen that video in forever, but it's definitely legendary.

[@SoundWaveSam]

@@YourFavoriteSon1 would be dope if you could get him on TGG+

[@JustAJauneArc]

It's crazy that I have watched that single video so many times that I remember the full specific quote. "It wasn't as simple as 'Fukushima was here and times was good, then Fukushima wasn't here then times was bad'. That is TRUE, but correlation ain't causation, baby." I genuinely think every person who watches Metal Gear content on KZbin needs to see that video at least once.

[@2yoyoyo1Unplugged]

@@JustAJauneArcand this one. And futurasoundproductions’ series on “what actually happens in MGSV”

[@TheKrowkaBoo]

Can't call it work of art when 2/3 of video is just retelling the story bit by bit

[@Animosity00]

Good, bad, indifferent. MGS4 endures. I personally love this entry

[@elvfn123]

"Love me or hate me, you played. That's all you can do" -MGS4, probably

[@NavJack27gaming]

Johnny Sasaki doesn't have nanos and he has stress stomach aches. i can TOTALLY relate to him in MGS4. it makes perfect sense. everyone else has that pushed down by the nanos EXCEPT him.

[@wuldntuliktonoptb6861]

I smoked at the time so everytime we had snakes loading screen I’d light up a cigarette. I doubt that’s what hideo was aiming for but that’s my biggest memory of this game. Wahoo time for a smoke break. I also quit shortly after that so the entire smoking section was just weird.

[@OrphanCrippler1]

Very cringe

[@raccoononymous]

My main problem with the game is that it jumps between set pieces too fast, doesn't really dwell on anywhere as much as the first two sections. I feel like any one of them could have been their own entire game if fleshed out more. (The South American part fleshed out is basically Snakeeater, my personal favorite Metal Gear Solid game)

[@alshabib5849]

I think this feeling is owed to the weaker big mama chapter that kind of is just two sneaking areas and then a boss fight. granted you have that cool chase setpeice also but it was hardly challenging gameplay. after that you get Shadow Moses which is bit more beefy but after that is the final chapter which is similar in size to the europe chapter, just being sneaking around on top of the hull of the ship which is two sections then a boss fight. So really the gameplay content is really 3 full size chapters with 2 much smaller ones that somewhat makes the pace feel rushed towards the end

[@kakazi2170]

It still blows my mind how good this game looks even though it came out in 2008. Im still waiting and coping for a port to PC in the second Remaster Collection c'mon Konami its free money damn it

[@nojuanatall3281]

I just got mgsV and it looks better than so much modern slop. It's actually sad tbh.

[@theonlybilge]

"Coping" or "hoping"?

[@Magnusfication]

With metal.gear online!

[@GxddessViv]

Over 2 hours on this, with one of my favorite games?? *grabs snacks and gets comfy*

[@ericripley4716]

Always loved david hayters appearance in the commercials in game.

[@DarthMirasshtar]

I never understood the hate on 4. I loved it. Can't tell you how many times I played through it. The music still gets me to this day. That track in your opening sticks with me for forever.

[@HueyTheDoctor]

This games proves why we deeply need Kojima's ambition and creativity even if sometimes what he makes is utter nonsense. Dead Stranding 2 is a continuation of this style of epic storytelling.

[@Magnusfication]

Really? I hated death stranding. Kojimas storytelling had been falling of for years. It was the worst in mgs5 imo. And the best in mgs2 and 3.

[@zomebody5529]

In peace walker you were supposed to use the resupply thing for the bosses lmao

[@2hurt2healmedia]

I never noticed the sound of the cicadas when the metal gears show up. Mgs4 is one of my favorite. Hope they bring it to modern gaming soon

[@jenniferrannila1414]

Literally this is my absolute favorite game in the series. And yes while I will acknowledge its flaws, it is still the game that had some of the best emotional impacts for me. And back when this game came out and until only a few years ago, it would surprise me to see people always talk about MGS4 as if it was this bad game and how unsatisfying it was or any of the other criticisms, while it was nowhere near as bad as MGS2 was with the Raiden bait and switch backlash, I still feel this was one of the best games in the series and actually wrapped everything up nicely(Until Peace Walker and V, but we will talk about V next time) so at the time when I saw that was the majority of conversations about it all I could say was "Am I stupid? Is it this easy to impress me?" And I had to keep that hidden, so now that people are looking back and seeing this game for the masterpiece it is, I can't help but feel cathartic in the same way I felt when people did it with other games I seemed to like but nobody else did when they came out like The Wind Waker or God of War 3.

[@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145]

Same! I've always considered MGS3 to be the absolute peak of the series, and always said it's the "best." But somehow MGS4 was still my favorite one to replay, and I have probably hundreds more hours in MGS4 than any of the others. And yeah it's flawed, but I never really understood why people had such harsh opinions about it.

[@cecilmartorano5649]

best game needs to come back

[@YourFavoriteSon1]

I'd love a port to pc or at least modern consoles

[@mannyichi]

TWU! My personal fav, never gonna forget on one of the install parts it said "you've been playing for 8 hours might wanna rest" or something like that lol

[@henschc]

I get so hyped to watch these videos! Can't wait for the MGS 5 retrospective

[@iknowtrevsupahyup]

Not for nothing, You flourish in the "Underdog" type of perspectives. You explain these stories well my friend 👍

[@DonutSwordsman]

The comments saying there was too much story, or that it was convoluted, i feel really missed the point and many of the nuances of what the art piece was going for

[@LloydChristmas08]

I played this again for the first time in a long time and it is still one of my favorites in the series. It was one of the reasons I bought a PS3 way back and totally delivered for me.

[@imaguy123]

MGS4 hits deep man. Easily my GOAT

[@drumeshopeth]

Peacewalker is very good, IMO. It stands on its own merits in gameplay and story. The version on PSN has dual thumbstick function to totally fix camera issues.

[@gusfring8451]

Raiden in MGS2: He isn’t cool enough Raiden in MGS4: Holy shit. I want to play as him. Raiden in MGR: Holy shit. I AM playing as him!

[@Tylerthephantom]

I grew up playing Metal Gear. I pretty much have the first Solid game burned into my brain. Unfortunately, my parents, understandably, didn’t want to swing the 500 dollars for a PS3 at the time, so for the longest time, i wasn't able to play MGS4. When i eventually got a job, my first paycheck went to buying a used PS3 and copy of MGS4. Still consider it the best purchase of my life.

[@gmoney9469]

The B&B are the weakest point for me. When Kojima proposed that the Foxhound equivalent for this game should be four psycho supermodels in gimp suits, someone in the room should have been brave enough to call it out for being stupid af.

[@Magnusfication]

Exactly!

[@kawawete]

"Uncle Hal, when is Snake coming back ?" Damn, it's raining today

[@theonlybilge]

1:22:31 Big Boss is just connected to the internet, shitposting in the Vinesauce stream chat.

[@chrisgee8441]

My buddy and I stay up from start of game to end of game and loved it. We were constantly deciphering the videos and thinking about what the message of the game was (we weren’t even close). It was an insanely fun, but a very different experience of “playing games” all night, which I’m actually very thankful for.

[@danielpratt3794]

Mannnnnnn first-time viewer, and you pointed out so many things i never realised Like i always took for granted, that snake comes back again and again as I'd always just see that as a trope, not a real-life problem John Mcclain John Wick John Rambo: The retired action hero coming back again and again. But to cotnextualise it as a story about legacy and the repeated churning of the same thing over and over as a critique of nostalgia is actually really profound Perhaps one day, the same way, mgs 2 became famous for predicting our culturallandscape. Maybe 4 will, too. I will say one thing about the Deadpool and Wolverine thing: Yes, it's notalgia bait and is the victim of "HeY reMEMber thIS." But it also is a nice exploration of Marvel films past, Deadpool and wolverine literally exploring a void where forgotten franchises are thrown away finding old heroes to have one more hurrah as a tribute to an era that started our culture of superheros and the villains a faceless company erasing IPS that no longer have any value to them anymore. Nothing too big as its nostalgia is what drew many, but i think it leaves us with a message deeper than intended Anyways, I'm looking forward to your MGSV video as that's always fun to talk about!

[@zomebody5529]

MGS2 and MGS4 are prophetic games

[@Fushikatz]

Since I played all Metal Gear games for the first time this year and all back to back, I really enjoyed MGS4. It feels like a fitting end to the story and series.

[@kaisercollins3097]

I think something people forget a lot about as well is Snake for everything he is is really an iconic character for the United States Military. I joined the Marines when I was 17 went SOC S E 2336 and spent 10 years of my life dedicated to my country. Most Veterans bodies under MRI are mistaken for men over twice their age. I always joked we all did about losing a hand or a foot. To get that sweet sweet cash. I survived but my body never did. I remember people saying " Tim used to be a really good runner." Almost like a dead man I wondered if it would be better had I just not made it at all. Being a Marine was the only thing I ever loved. It was the only thing I ever wanted to be or do. I considered ending it I was in so much pain and my life felt empty. I remember watching the news. We all lost people but not too many. I never really cried I was there I could have died too. When those Marines who were forgotten in Afghanistan were murdered by terrorists I wept for the first time I felt that loss. 18 years old, 19 years old...... It tore me apart inside... I know those kids I was those kids they were Marines just like me just like I used to be. On my darkest day I remember turning on my PS3 and replaying MGS4. When I saw the end I felt that grief for the last time. "It's over it's time for you to put aside the gun and live." " Don't waste the life you have left fighting." It's not about changing the world it's about doing our best to leave the world the way it is." " A new future will be born. That new world is yours to live in not as a Snake but as a man. " But you have been given freedom freedom to be outside. You are nobodies tool now no ones toy. You are no longer a prisoner of fate. You are no longer a seed of war. It's time for you to see the outside world with your own eyes. Your body and your soul are your own. Forget about us live for yourself." Those silly little melodramatic words changed my life. I remember sitting there and I realized something. I wasn't better of dead I shouldn't have died, I lived I was alive the pain that wracked me the injuries they hadn't taken me away.... I was alive free to live on the outside..... I could have died but that would have been easy. Marines are too stubborn and stupid to do it the easy way. So I moved on a fictional character in a game that made me in many ways who I was who everyone I had ever admired or worked with knew. Snake was almost real in that way it wasn't a story written for me but to me I will always remember it that way.

[@thefearofg0ds758]

I also felt alone in my adoration for MGS4. It still, imo has the best set up and premise out of the entire franchise. The whole war economy concept, Snake having to sneak in the middle of a battlefield, the premature aging etc. Also we basically arrived full circle with the world becoming what Big Boss had envisioned. There were things I hated about it(the excessive fan service) but gameplay and concept wise it was amazing.

[@Miyakolover]

1:18:48 I really don't see any reason why anyone in their right mind would hate on this part of the game, it's very awesome and I loved tailing that guy while avoiding PMC's (and I think you have to try really hard to lose sight of him)...plus on multiple playthroughs it's always awesome to mess around with the enemy AI and gadgets. I don't think it's a hot take to like that section.

[@starkiller34]

To this day, I've only ever played MGS and MGS4. Played the everloving shit out of MGS, was one of only 3 games I owned on PS1, and I never got a console after that untill i started working and scronged up a used PS3 with a used copy of MGS4. I freaking loved it. I never played through the controversy of MGS2, or the gut punch that was MGS3's story, so to me, jumping into MGS4 after only playing the first game was such a nostalgic trip that fit right in with what the narrative was trying to do, and there was this weird parallel of me now an adult playing the series I loved as a child... it just really fit with this narrative, and old Snake just really got to me.

[@kokujinblack77]

About Raiden becoming a cyborg, I like this because it's cool and it completes him as a character given his backstory, not that he had to be a cyborg ninja, more of that he's embracing his past as a genocidal brainwashed murderer, and taking it to HIS own extreme.

[@alexf836]

Honestly this was my favorite in the entire series, all the others I did maybe two play throughs of, except 5 just too long, but i played through 4 at least 4-5 times, the individual areas were unique and interesting, enjoyed the weapons acquisition system and the bosses were great(if mostly sad) also getting to see mostly everyone end up happy and at peace after what can only be described as insanely diifcult lives was, for me at least, very satisfying. Totally get why other fans of the series might not have dug it so much but this is the game I will be buying the second collection for when it comes out

[@one1virtuoso]

I feel like it could be argued that Raiden would never FULLY find peace given his circumstances. Is the mostly metal, child soldier turned into mercenary going to be a banker or something? Nah he's going to be a merc or at the very least, security, especially in mgs verse. I've always thought of rising to be canon because mgs4 pretty much said rising was going to happen regardless of what happens here.

[@FPoP1911]

My first game on PS3 that justified that console entirely, everything after that was bonus.

[@RazgriizTV]

I got my ps3 on the mgs4 midnight release at a gamestop

[@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145]

Yep MGS4 was 100% the reason I bought a (used) PS3. At one point, that PS3 and game were almost the only things I had in my apartment. So broke I didn't have internet for awhile, so I just kept replaying MGS4. Had the "official game guide" book instead of internet telling me how to get all the trophies and titles. I still have that PS3. It's one of the backward compatible ones so I've held onto it like a rare treasure. Only games I have for it are MGS4, the Metal Gear HD Collection... and The Last of Us (which I never even got around to playing).

[@n0vi]

I got one only for this game, was always more into PC gaming but this was a must-have. I ended up having like 3 games on it lol

[@graydonspethman3429]

Finally, Someone that feels the exact way I do about this title. Very well examined. One of my favorite channels on KZbin. Keep up the great work!

[@lordfizzz]

freaking love these videos dude

[@filiussolis5368]

I don't get it. MGS4 never had a bad reputation. The majority of people who played it, liked it. Back then only the 360 fanboys (who couldn't play it) were sh**ing on it.

[@TREBLEBOOSTER65]

I started with this game as a kid not knowing the rest of the series until high school. My friend let me borrow mgs2 & mgs3. Then I bought mgs1. I was all over the place, but unlike most, this place has a very special place in my heart. I had it for years before realizing the gold I had right in front of me I didn't like at first because I didn't get it. I played it like call of duty at first lol. When I got older though, I could appreciate the story and stealth mechanics very much. Love mgs4 ❤

[@alialmuhanna4938]

6:17 That’s funny, given how the game ends; David Hayter himself stated in interviews that Snake wouldn’t hesitate to end his own life. Given he’s played the guy since 1998, he’d have a solid (pun intended) grasp of his character.

[@mickieg1994]

If i remember rightly my first playthrough took about 20+hrs, think ive finished it around 20 times and got the time down to around 6hrs. I love it to death and the cutscenes dont bother me at all, even though they take 2x as much time as the gameplay

[@Westy-rk3hn]

I've been waiting for this. I will now be dropping everything and watching

[@raabm5292]

Excellent video as always. Love these longer vids. And MGS4 brings back such nostalgia, still a masterpiece imo. Put so many hours into the online as well.

[@CapslockGoD]

The overall best game in the series is MGS3 for me. MGS4 is second. It has all the feels and bombastically epic story and over the top presentation. I played through MGS4 in two sittings over two days. I just couldn't put the controller down even though it had the baffling chapter installation process. Come the revisit of Shadow Moses i bawled when "The Best Is Yet To Come" starts playing and Old Snake sees the crumbling security camera, in the place he was used by several factions as a tool... it is cathartic for Snake to finally break himself and the world free from the ghosts of the past.

[@cb1997]

I think your opening intro about the history of PMC's doesn't do the system justice... Private Miltiary Companies or 'Free Companies' as it was known in the western medieval-era, really started in the age of pre-professional militaries. In times past, a local lord / king would raise an army of peasants, train them, send them into a campaign, only to return home during the harvest season, as you still had mouths to feed. But what if you wanted to wage war year-round? Enter a new profession: Soldier, a man that was armed by the state, trained by the state, and stood for the state, full time, through all 4 season of a year.... But when the war was won, or there was no longer an enemy to fight, and thus no reason to keep paying these men... these men no longer had a salary, yet still had a profession; War. So they banded together into mercenary 'companies' and would travel the world, enlisting their skills to the highest bidder. They would often make up 25% or even more of the standing forces of many historical empires. Fast forward to the 20th century; Mercenaries, now known as Private Military Companies (or Private Security Corporations, as an even deeper sterilization of the term 'mercenary') have a sordid history across the globe. Famously, Executive Outcomes --what I would consider a company that reached the zenith of the idea of a Private Military Company, armed with light armoured vehicles, tanks, and even a small gunship airforce--, almost single handedly defeated a military junta in Sierra Leone; They overthrew a government, enacting political change on the global scale. It's companies like these that formed the basis of the PMC's in MGS4, not the watered down versions we see in your US-based examples like Blackwater / Xe / Academi.

[@YourFavoriteSon1]

Thank you for this extra information! Really adds a lot of context.

[@cb1997]

@@YourFavoriteSon1 Thank you for making this retrospective! MGS4 was the reason I bought a PS3, and the reason I ride a Triumph Bonneville today.

[@CpmStudios]

It's 1998 and I'm playing Pizza Hut demos on my PS1 and come across MGS1. You get to play the area before the elevator only but I knew I needed this game. So when it came out I asked my Dad if we can buy a game; he said as long as it's rated E or T. He let me go pick the game out while he was looking at electronics nearby. I told the cashier my dad wants that 'metal gear' game and the dude gave it to me without asking for my parent. He could have easily said no. I took it to my dad and put it in the cart and told him I got a rated T game and he didn't even look. Ever since that day I've been a huge fan and have seen so many stories of people finding MGS2, MGS4, etc and falling in love with it.

[@theMansen]

MGS4 is my favorite MG Game too! thx for your sick essay´s

[@ItsJesMe]

This is my favorite too. Nostalgia, homage, and the old guard passing on... The ocelot fight is the epitome of this and is so well done. Because I viewed this very much as a "send off", I've still never played* mgs5. *I'm bad at shooters, so I've never played them, only watched friends play. But like theater or "family movie night", we'd set aside time for them to play and me to watch. (Edit: And I do understand that 5 and the psp games are prequels. I have played* peacewalker, and thought it was really interesting. But something about the mainline console entries feel like they shouldn't live within the Boss/Big Boss/Snake period anymore. Though I think little vignettes fleshing that time out are cool. That's also how I view revengeance (as a vignette), though I haven't played*/watched that either.)

[@arkeshn729]

I put all the MGS4 cutscenes on dvds and watched them like a movie from time to time.

[@ionian525]

Weirdly, MGS4 was the first Metal Gear game I ever played. I was 10 years old, my family was at my uncle's house and he let me use his PS3 where i popped in MGS4 based on box art alone. I didnt get to "play" much but i was completely enthralled by its opening. It really did change my view on what games were and what they could be and I had barely even experienced 2 hours of the game. I wouldnt get to play MGS4 or any other entry for a few more years until I got the HD collection and I actually never got a chance to return to MGS4 until we were already a few years into the PS4's life. I actually played 1, 2, 3, and both 5s before I finally got a used PS3 copy of MGS4 and I could finally return to the game that initially got me interested in the swries in the first place. Seeing the same 2 hours of the intro almost a decade later hit just as hard as it once did when i was young and had no context.

[@CERap22]

1:51:18 you mean OCELOT used nanomachines. You said Otacon by mistake

[@Therian13]

1:31:40 I actually hated this part. I hate when games force players to juggle between gameplay and trying to watch a highly detailed cutscene. It forces players to either replay the scene again multiple times, or try to find it in an online video. The animators and programmers worked hard for that fight scene, and we should be able to sit back and enjoy it. I feel like that games that do split action scenes like this are always taking away from the experience. We can`t fully enjoy the gameplay because we want to watch the story, but we can`t fully enjoy the story because we have to participate in the gameplay. I think it is one of those "features" that sounds good on paper, but always ends up bad when actually done. Just my opinion though. And opinions are like Metal Gears.. Everyone probably has one, and they can usually be beaten with determination. :p

[@robertgolden1534]

I loved mgs4 when it came out. I still have the strategy guide for both mgs 3 and 4 I used for multiple playthroughs. Mgs3 will always be my favourite, but it was so crazy seeing Snake grow old in 4. It was a really unusual game experience

[@cptsnake1202]

A childhood memory I use to have was watching my Father play this in the evening before bed. I personally always enjoyed MGS4 for its nostalgia and gameplay mechanics. Loved the different maps you explored and the storyline. Would say this game was the perfect ending to Solid Snakes story. Sorta wish that they hadn't made any other MGS games as I feel like we had the perfect ending to a loved series. Great video.

[@mightymochi6320]

It was always amazing to me from the very beginning. It's actually my favorite in the entire series. I loved the intricate, lengthy cutscenes and layered plot lines. Paired with great gameplay and it was a formula for success, not to mention the highly underrated MGO 2 multiplayer.

[@Swanhub]

Just so you know, the bosses in Peace Walker scale in difficulty based on the amount of players. A 4-player Peace Walker fight will have 4x the health a solo one would. It really just comes down to not ignoring the equipment upgrades. Minimal to no grinding is necessary if you stay on top of development.

[@higherbonds]

I just want to say I appreciate you for making a video on MGS4, i was just telling my friend how MGS4 is my #1 game since 2008. It's so tragic my ps3 broke. I hope to be able to play it again in the future.

[@Alan-yh5mj]

This series of videos has been excellent. As a massive fan of this series.. I echo most of your thoughts and feelings throughout the games. I’m really excited to see what you have to say about five.

[@Ternalin]

With the Ukrainian and Gaza wars going on... Yeah, I think Kojima predicted the future again. MGS 2 was also treated this way on release. The man really ahead of his time.

[@arkham666]

I'm on the road right now son but I'm looking forward to watching this at the weekend.

[@willlettman5810]

I’ve been waiting for this. God hearing you dissect my favorite games is such ecstasy.

[@CthUwU09]

This is the game that introduced me to the metal gear series. My dad loves them all and when i was old enough he got this game and played while i watched.

[@leesasuki]

Maybe because I "walkthrough" it through youtube, but man I love MGS4. Just like the old MGS, this one talk more about "passing on", and that play so well with all the nostalgia that I didn't even know, but still able to feel (I only played MGS3 at this point)

[@mattfick5502]

Son, your mother is very glad you've started including her in your greetings.

[@someoneunknown17]

I just beat mgs4 today… after first getting a copy of it 5 months ago. I personally don’t have a ps3, but my friend has one. Every time I need to take the bus for 3 hours to travel to a different city to play the game or hang out, but I still did it after months of being frustrated with the game, either by its gameplay mechanics or depressing theme… But I can say, the ending hits sooo hard and I can’t wait to beat another 39 times to get snake eater for the ipod! I can say that I definitely fell in love with the game through playing it!

[@nobodyman8661]

It's literally my favorite game of all time. So it's as damn good as I remember.

[@TrunksBordare]

Been waiting for this one! My absolute favorite in the series, both the game and Son’s breakdown.

[@DonutSwordsman]

4 is the most fun fan service perfect end and happy ending I've ever experienced in a series. It feels like Kojima did everything he wanted to do at this point. The swan song

[@EmmaBonn96]

10:20 that’s a cigarette not a cigar

[@neginesuke]

Considering this is the only MGS game I completed I have some fond memories of it. I even played through it multiple times cause I enjoyed the story so much. It made me want to play through the earlier games, which I still have yet to actually do. I can understand why it wasn't as celebrated as the other games in the series, but for me it got me engaged with the story and ready to learn more about every aspect. Even picking up MGS5, which I do enjoy playing every so often, still haven't beaten though lol

[@FhtagnCthulhu]

MGS4 is absolutely my fav as well, even at the time. Well, maybe it is, I love all the mainline games in their own ways. I never understood the argument about too many cutscenes. I thought the gameplay was good, I thought the cutscenes were good. I can enjoy a multi-media piece of art. If people were saying the pacing is bad or the story is bad, that would be one thing, but that is a very different argument. There are some pacing issues, but the whole story had me on edge, it probably brought me to tears at least a half-dozen times on my first playthrough.