HUGE CHANGES! - 6v6, New Hybrid Queue System, Counterpicking & MORE!

[@lonewolf-4lfe399]

As a Tank main 6v6 was the only reason why I played OverWatch, I really miss having another Tank with me. As Reinhardt "Such Glorious Days that's in Dire need of rekindling"

[@f1ll3rn]

I dont, it is fun, but it is not fun for supports and dps

[@philpeters3689]

​@f1ll3rn it was fun. I played when Ana got released for 3 years. Before roll queue. I always played support as I let everyone pick who they wanted to play first. I'd rather 6v6 and have another tank to stop the Dva and sombra Dive on my floating robotic ass

[@DARKINBLADE.]

@@f1ll3rn I'm a Zen main and I loved 6v6. Nowadays 5v5 just feels like tank diff, and that honestly sucks for the role with so much pressure. It's clear they cannot figure out a way to make tank less stressful for more casual players, so 6v6 is honestly the only real solution at this point.

[@Stepchild07]

​@@DARKINBLADE.On top of that tank just cant keep up with 2 dps full aggressive push on them even with 2 supports pocketing them out tanks have survivability but they are still main and off tanks and off tanks are fun but not tanky and main tanks are tanky but a lot of the time you can't do anything

[@mkwsoxfan]

​@@f1ll3rnIt was fun for supports, I personally had fun on every support not named mercy in the 6v6 days. Actually I think support is significantly LESS fun in 5v5 but that could just be personal preferences. What a life we had where one shot dps were less likely to one shot in 6v6, can't wait for that time again

[@thegreentortoise9440]

i lowkey love goth women

[@SamuelWaggoner]

This is the best comment, amen bro

[@NightSkyKing]

Fuck yeah 😎

[@trenton8211]

Preach brother

[@Itsfalcon9]

Me too sometimes in the hub 👀 I’ll be in a mood

[@Oliverelgato1]

They dont love u back

[@Shzl47]

I was not expecting them to float the idea of 5v5 being Quick Play and 6v6 being Competitive

[@-NoNo.]

i actually didn’t even pick up on that, good catch

[@Shzl47]

@@-NoNo. I watched the full interview and you have to combine 2 of their answers. Alec wants to make Quick Play less competitive (more casual) and Ranked more competitive. Ranked should have the more "crunchy systems". "some of the stuff we're talking about should be comp-only". When talking about Queue Times, Aaron mentions a world where 5v5 and 6v6 can run side-by-side, the hybrid system ("max 2") would have way better queue times but wouldn't feel as competitive since you could have a tank player that isn't really a tank player. And they know 6v6 role queue would have worse queue times but some people may be willing to wait longer for that more strategic version of the game. There were some other bits and pieces and you have to read between the lines, and it sounds like Freedo picked up on it as well so I'm not the only one. All of it was really exciting to hear. They've basically thought of every possible scenario. They want to make a game where everyone can have what they want? Plus tournaments? Can't wait.

[@vulpesinculta3478]

I kind of like that, tho personally I'd prefer both for both.

[@FireflyArc]

Do it!!

[@masterofinfinity479]

guess i'll play comp again

[@TsuchiGamer06]

Supports not swapping makes SO much sense. Most bad players will have the "I just need to heal" without realizing the inherent synergies supports have with certain tanks and dps. Sure they know of Pharmercy/and Echo and stuff but why do I just have an Illari and Juno pocketing a Winston if they're never gonna be able to heal them

[@Trai1b1aze]

Suspect some of it is also the thinking of "I will swap after my ult charge is built" and forgetting to do so.

[@bobdole3996]

This is wild. In every match I play I see my second support switch to moira all the time. 😅

[@supern0is349]

a silver tank player has better game sense than a diamond support, especialy if its a moira/kiriko main

[@Kamishikyo]

@@supern0is349 That's a wild take that no one will ever agree on my guy.

[@supern0is349]

@@Kamishikyo every tank player will agree, especialy the ones that play hard to master tanks like doomfist or queen. Easy tanks like zarya or orisa maybe not, but if you climbed out of the depths of low elo, playing ONLY a tank like doomfist, you MUST have really high game sense and you can see how utterly obvlious of basic common sense support players are. Lucio player diving in alone, kiriko players that CANT tp out or climb, ana players that dont take the high ground, mercy player that dont fly even with valkirie..its beyond belief.

[@mercifuldeath]

Discussion aside, that Junkrat gameplay kinda went crazy

[@2ndCityCine]

My thoughts exactly

[@BrokenSkunk]

I got so happy when I saw that ulting mercy get trapped.

[@xenofeild983]

The Hybrid style queue just gives me nightmares. It's reminding me of old Open queue when it was a race to insta-lock whatever hero you wanted. And if you loaded in slightly later, you would ALWAYS be playing either support or tank. They mentioned the "social pressure" in a post a while ago, of having to be the one to take one for the team and play tank back when Open Queue was standard. Unless im majorly misunderstanding, that's exactly what it sounds like it would be with Hybrid Queue.

[@sakura9959]

I feel like they can let u pick ur preferred role before going into the match, but that still might not fix all problems

[@fylesmindlay1239]

Ofc ur afraid of social pressure with that pfp

[@angelgutierrez9581]

​@@fylesmindlay1239 Dude, you're hilarious. You should be a comedian.

[@salinaember9527]

preferred roles could help solve the communication aspect. add a role icon on each players name to show what they queued for. 1 minimum required for each role, 2 maximum limit of each role. it would work like the current queuing matchmaking system, but with flexibility for players to switch roles during a match. as for comp progress, it can calculate which role won you the match, based on match stats, which role you queued into, and playtime. your off role would receive less progress in its rank if your opponents were weaker, and more progress if they were stronger.

[@umbium]

Joke's on you that you want to pick DPS. For the rest of people it will be the same

[@F1R3EMBLEM]

Can we have "looking for group" and 6v6 back please

[@namixless9732]

god i miss the looking for group feature

[@bobdole3996]

@@F1R3EMBLEM yall lying. 🤥 nobody used lfg.

[@Coolboynow96]

don't forget the card system after each match and so you could chat for a while post-match

[@holysheep1896]

True! Thats one thing that really would push the social part of the game. Ow2 was so silent for me...

[@leaf7363]

@@bobdole3996😭 ??? It was what kept the game alive while they did 0 updates

[@ronniepowell3686]

I miss 6v6 and do want it back but I remember ow1 where everyone complained and wanted the game to die or said it was already dead. It doesn’t matter if it stays 5v5 or goes back to 6v6 people will still complain about it everything and demand change.

[@Mike-hy8cs]

Yeah the real issues are not 5v5 or 6v6 it goes a lot deeper than that

[@F1R3EMBLEM]

6v6 will definitely improve the game

[@michaelroche4960]

part of that was related to the creation of overwatch 2 and the complete lack of content or major updates for months and months on end.....

[@ronniepowell3686]

@@michaelroche4960 totally agree with that we had major waits in between content and everyone was sour over no story mode which I don’t blame them I was too. But people will complain no matter what and elmost everyone hates blizzard at this point.

[@jimmyjab8744]

doesn't help when the hero design for dlc heroes was largely bad and the terrible metas and content drought we had for the last like what three years of the games life or something

[@Loki24369]

Mercy mains not swapping imagine that

[@auspicioustoot]

good mercys hard carry bad teams

[@stoiciugabriel]

@@auspicioustoot actually mercy is probably the most team dependent support

[@abrawolf]

​@@stoiciugabriel she can do both. That said, you can't heal through stupid. Can't rez it either

[@auspicioustoot]

@@stoiciugabriel im not saying the individual players being bad but a lack of team play. I think all supports should be ready to swap when its needed

[@dSYNYSTERb]

​@auspicioustoot umm no they don't. Mercy requires you to be pocketing good players to get value. You are dependent on whoever you're pocketing. Mercy is one of the worst supports at the moment, and when people refuse to swap it triggers me. Especially when Mercy one tricks especially have no issues blaming their tank and DPS.

[@h3nta1j3sus8]

i swear if they add back 6v6 i will be running goats and showing all the ow2 players how real overwatch was like

[@VVS_SaiyanGod]

Probably not goats for me but same !

[@AlexTheHorrid]

Won’t be possibly anymore. There’s role queue, Brig has changed, less shields, less CC. On top of whatever other changes they add to other characters. lol

[@tupacsleftnut4995]

bro bring back the worst parts of ow1 just to shit on newer players like “heh… thatll show them…”

[@VVS_SaiyanGod]

@@tupacsleftnut4995 on god

[@SnakeSkinz]

You can run goats in 5v5 right now. Open queue still exists. Goats has nothing to do with player count format

[@Agent_N7]

If I wanted a shooter game I'd play a shooter, I came to overwatch because I enjoyed the strategy aspects of it and I'm still trying to play it that way

[@Agent_N7]

Also, the character stuff, there's never enough of it. And somehow seasonal events got worse.

[@dannyhernandez112]

This is an aspect of OW that doesn’t get talked about enough. I fell in love with OW because of how unique it was in blending the moba aspect of the game with the fps format. I’m not really into the top down view of games like League of Legends. OW allows me to play a moba esque game while still be first person. That’s what kept me hooked to this game. And I’d still say that to this day it is unique in doing so. I don’t think there is any other game like OW. Even games people say are OW clones to me are just not the same. But OW2 being more fps focused to me ruins the charm of what was OW and its unique qualities compared to other games.

[@itami4190]

@@dannyhernandez112You think overwatch 2 applied more focus on the fps aspect of the game?

[@dannyhernandez112]

@@itami4190 I don’t think I know. And just listen to all the 5v5 defenders. One of there main reasons for preferring this format is that the game feels like a more flanky, solo carry, fps version of OW. Where OW1 was more about team fights, strategy and building good comps with tanks that synergies and supports that enabled to tanks. 6v6 was way more team focused. 5v5 is more COD like but with abilities. The only thing that has now changed that a little is tanks now being giga buffed and broken. Something not even tank players want.

[@0111-k9m]

Well I play overwatch because I like to kill defensless zenyattas and spam voice lines to assert dominance, headshots feel good too especially with cassidy or snipers.

[@pandatree66]

After playing marvel rivals to be honest I wouldn't be surprised they start some kind of role que as well cause the amount of people that don't want to play support is crazy even in that game

[@bobdole3996]

@pandatree66 because their supports suck. Worse than paladins.

[@tailgrowth]

Marvel Rivals definitely gave me some old OW1 flashbacks of always having to pick healer because no one else wants to be healer. And you still end up with 3-5 DPS picks from your teammates and are destined to lose regardless. And it's wild that there are people who want to go back to that. I'll gladly take a five-minute+ queue time with role lock instead of playing a five-minute+ game that I have no chance of winning because of open queue

[@fockythefrog8516]

yeah nobody wants to play support in marvel rivals, but i don't mind - I can play rocket and click one button for 5 minutes - while having two dashes when i get dove. It's pretty chill

[@jinxa]

@@bobdole3996 you cant be fr. Luna snow and mantis are super fun supports along with loki and adam warlock. i dont know what rank u are but there have been plenty of supports in my games.

[@bobdole3996]

@jinxa that's why people play them. 🤷🏿‍♂️ Here's truth, across many hero shooters support is always second most played. Whether ow, paladins, and even mobas(kinda). It's possible they flipped these and made tanks more Interesting.

[@Modern-Hazard]

If they bring back 6v6 , ya’ll better be in comms. I’m not trying to stress when trying to coordinate ults to get past 2 tanks again

[@Dasher_The_Viral]

Don't worry, I'll be sure to have my fan pointed directly at my mic while eating chips and blasting full volume thrash metal. Oh, and also I'll only communicate by aggressively screaming at my team when I'm killed.

[@jptrady1997]

Its not that hard to pay attention to 1 extra player n the enemy team bro😭

[@pablosnackbar6417]

Everyone so soft these days. It’s one extra player, dude. Relax and have fun.

[@Modern-Hazard]

Oh I’ve played 6v6, im literally a zarya main because no points could be captured unless there was a lucky pick or you had to combo zarya grab with like Hanzo or tracer ult

[@C0rran05]

lol, I had forgotten about the earnable 'priority passes' until Frido brought it up near the end of the video. And yeah, he's right. I pretty much saved all of mine up for DPS queue.

[@ASHURADZN]

Mercy being a hero surely affects the stats about support not swapping (Also I just want the old Doom kit)

[@INeed333Quid]

Also Lucio, his skills aren't as transferrable as most heroes

[@bambampewpew32]

dude I wouldn't even care that much about 6v6 if they brought back dps doom, or at least added uppercut back, I'd just enjoy that lol I do complain about wanting 6v6 because I want the whole game to be better though lmao I'm just saying I could deal with the game sucking if I could have mountains of fun on dps doom again

[@Minx_ow]

Yeah I think it’s the Mercy one-tricks. There seems to be a lot of them 🥲 I used to be a one-trick, but I learnt pretty quick that it gets you no where so I expanded on my mains

[@yuutify]

I sincerely hope they bring back 6v6 the right way. I miss being a Rein main with my Zarya duo who would say “get in there, kill them all” while giving me a bubble as I charged in. Those were the days man

[@thorn4492]

me and my friend used to do that aswell. i used to charge in and he started panicking cause i went in 1v6. then he bubbled me and i popped my ultimate. our dps usually catched up and cleaned the rest XDDD. miss the times me and my friends played 6v6. if they add it back. im back its that simple

[@pablosnackbar6417]

Synergy, strategy and team work. That’s why I played this game. (Played being the operative word here) 5v5 is just like COD with abilities.

[@Unlimitedsigmaow]

Who would swap characters when Sigma is the greatest character?

[@ButtmanRises]

Based 🗿 🦶🏻

[@Zodiaaac]

With the stats on supports not switching I wouldn't be surprised if 75% of that data is just mercy one tricks and it's inflated the data more than other roles

[@joshrobinett249]

Also, I'm honestly not surprised by the 10% in open queue stat. There are a ton of tank mains just biding their time in that mode til 6v6

[@Waywurd08]

Me and my friends are in that stat lmao

[@Blue-585]

I think a cool thing they could do about hero locking is having the player to select a set number of characters they can swap to during a match.

[@syberfang7890]

That is honestly really smart, it is a middle ground from complete lockout and the "Counterswapping is good" Mentality they've been using. Personality I'd want full locks, you chose DVa, Hog, Ram, you STAY them.

[@NOVRE]

Imagine you pick Winston and the enemies have a Reaper torbjorn hog brig ana or something, you have barely any chance. I would want to swap tbh.​@@syberfang7890

[@hobonolen]

I’ve said this for years , but everyone in the match picks a character to start the game and any player can swap to one of those characters mid game… so it would be two possible tanks, four possible dps and four possible supports

[@nicodiefenbach5450]

Like 3 charakters and everyone can See your selected 3 characters

[@muleboy3537]

Data shows supports don’t swap. Freedo: It must be because supports don’t know how powerful swapping is. Me: I just like being a zippy froggy guy ✨🤷‍♀️✨

[@xIronwafflexx]

That's like saying, you know you should stop at stop signs, but don't.

[@muleboy3537]

@@xIronwafflexx nah, it’s a game. More like, the other kid getting mad I’m using the green crayon to color the grass green and then the sky green, and then the fire truck green and he’s literally screaming mad having a red faced tantrum because green is only for the grass, and I’m laughing and running away with the green crayon, drawing a line on the wall having a great time. ✨

[@xIronwafflexx]

@@muleboy3537 Those kids get put in a special class to facilitate their special needs. They don't normally impact the experiences of normal students. OW however, puts the special kids in the same queue as the normal kids.

[@french_toast223]

Thats why games are shit. Supports are retarted.

[@newwt6991]

@@muleboy3537 I think they are talking more about higher competitive play, sure go have fun on lucio in quickplay or even lower ranks but as soon as you start to move up that mind set become a detriment to your team. I get what you are saying and I agree its important to have fun, but that data and most of this video is about competitive and if you're playing ow2 to have fun you won't find it there.

[@stinkynightelf]

Dude this game is a SOLEY PVP game, any casualty aspect went out the window when they decided pve wasint worth it

[@dSYNYSTERb]

I agree, but at the same time, Overwatch is this weird game where half the player base wants to be competitive and the other half just wants to dick around

[@massivemansbiggestplan]

Back in my day you could have casual pvp 🧓

[@backstabber3537]

@@dSYNYSTERb QP is also comp btw

[@93Chowo]

For me personally the game still has casual aspects as the Arcade and Quickplay get played just for the fun of playing the heroes you like and the way you like. Ranked Games as the game suggests are about improving your personal rank. The game itself is competitive as you have a goal to achieve in the various modes but it´s not "hardcore competitive" as you don´t have to win each game to gain something. Of course winning is nice but it´s not everything.

[@xenofeild983]

I would be curious to see specifics on the counter-swapping data. They say people aren't counter swapping as nearly as much compared to how big people think the issue is. But I would bet A LOT of money that most dps are swapping to Sombra or Sym right now. And Supports are swapping to Mercy. This has been a problem since the beginning of overwatch, where there are just safe "cheese" picks that people used to go. And if this is what's happening (and i bet it is) then the bigger issue is just tuning. It's annoying to be FORCED to play a specific hero because one is simply objectively better than another. (Think older OW 1 with Symmetra kill walls and her auto-lock beam)

[@michaelpurdon7032]

Nah the whole conversation is about misperception in the first place. Like look at the heroes you listed, 3 of the worst heroes in the game and your perception is that huge amounts of ppl swap to them.

[@xenofeild983]

@@michaelpurdon7032 well perception is based on what I am seeing. Sombra and mercy are the most played heroes I've seen. I'm talking almost every single match. It's not that I think they are. It's that I am seeing it happen in my matches. I have many other friends saying the same thing, so it's not just me. Like I said, I would really like to see the data. It's called looking for extraneous variables. Sombra specifically is a big problem right now for a lot of people, and them mentioning "counter swapping is a good thing", makes all of us think "so if im doing good against their cassidy, they can just swap to sombra and win every single time. Until I decide to swap to Sombra too."

[@nib1448]

Literally nobody swaps to Sym what games are you playing

[@localmilfchaser6938]

U not getting a lesbian Latina gf btw. Not happening

[@massivemansbiggestplan]

​@@xenofeild983somb is pretty easy to counter. Hide around the corner near your supports, wait for her to pop up and shoot. Bonus points if you shoot her before she shows up or after she translocates away.

[@alfredoperez9017]

I think role queue quick play will always have a more sweaty player base then what blizzard wants . The game mode fillters for people that want more scructure more coheation then the alternative of what , open queue quick play provides .

[@_korbo_]

The thing if they made a role queue with a "one role can have a single player" thing would be people telling you to swap off your role so they can be the "giga DPS" and whatnot. I think it's a system that just can't ever work because people will eventually try to "abuse" it at the cost of others. If you played overwatch for more than 10 hours you can imagine in your head someone telling you "reaper you suck, swap off so I can DPS by myself".

[@salinaember9527]

already happens with tank. at least the verbal assault part. now its equal. solo support and dps can get the hate distribution

[@HAL0B0MB]

People already tell you that you suck anyways it makes no difference

[@_korbo_]

@@salinaember9527 That makes absolutely no sense bud.

[@mng8680]

​​@@_korbo_ He meant that tank role is already one player only, so its often the role blamed by dps and support teammates for losses cause theres only one tank. Having dps and support a one player role would be similar to what tank experienced in that sense having more responsibility and easy target to blame for losses.

[@johnnyhitman8532]

Hero ban is going to be a terrible thing to implement into the game. Reason being is the difference between the “dream” of how it will be used and the “reality” as in: - Dream: players banning heroes that dominate certain maps or to stop certain counters -Reality: only the same heroes will get banned, the annoying ones, even if they aren’t good. The problem with the same heroes being banned all the time even if they are bad means that the devs will see a 90% overall ban rate as well as hear people complaining about never seeing/playing said hero and then think ”Hey this hero’s must somehow be op, guess we’ll nerf it?” I’ve seen this system in R6 and it turned out terrible overall, not used as intended in the slightest and leads to unnecessary nerfs to heroes or in this game will lead to One tricks needing to have private profiles and streamer mode active.

[@-NoNo.]

not necessarily, that might happen in plat and below but in diamond and above people will ban what is considered most oppressive or “meta” at the time because what those players want more than anything else is to rank up to gm or champion.

[@Nehraaw_]

I can already see Mauga getting banned every games

[@Jaxxie_B]

Hero bans aren't the play. I think a better way to deal with it is by having a roster. Imagine going into comp role que and you can only bring in 2 or 3 hero's for you're selected role. That would solve counterpicking. It would also force people to stick to their "best" characters. For example. I might que as support, but I pre-select Kirko, Zen, and Lucio.

[@chrislive1586]

Genji Widow Sombra Mauga will be banned every match. edit: Tracer

[@willwunsche6940]

The interview was pretty good. I kind of miss open queues casual bliss from the beginning even if it really sucked in ways

[@ravenruppie96]

I'll take 6v6 back but open queue can stay in hell lol

[@willwunsche6940]

@@ravenruppie96 Lol. Hey no limits open queue comp ruleset goes hard for screwing around with friends

[@ravenruppie96]

@@willwunsche6940 XD

[@Advantageplayy]

100 percent agreed sure role que was promising but sadly I too wished for open que 6v6 back. That’s when overwatch felt the most addicting

[@willwunsche6940]

@@Advantageplayy I pretty much 90% play role queue, but I think it is the root cause for many of the tank/format problems we are having now. I think we need a better solution that accomplishes what role queue does with less harsh downsides, restoring some big upsides of open queue I was most addicted to the game during open queue too but that was a long period of the game back when everything was new for several years. No hero limits was insanely fun too although very silly and way more casual

[@Hiro_Trevelyan]

I didn't expect to hear about induced demand on an Overwatch video honestly, but nice to see more and more people understand that building highways everywhere won't fix traffic

[@tawney1023]

I only ever queued DPS with my prior passes. I wasn't willing to wait otherwise. I was absolutely one of the people adding to the line when it was shorter.

[@SupaRush]

Only reason i'll play Overwatch 2 is if 6v6 comes back. I quit playing Overwatch since OW2 came out because 5v5 ruined it especially being a gold ranked ball main at the time i liked being able to run around freely while a reinhardt or orisa held the team together

[@beau9956]

Love this. Fuck listening to flats for 90 minutes. Thanks for the summary

[@untapped8776]

He barely talks in it. Quit hating.

[@pablosnackbar6417]

Flats catching strays for absolutely no reason 😂 chill bro

[@togonomo5298]

The semi removal of role queue could be great. Imagine heroes being designed without the constriction of a role.

[@ThaCousin]

So we back to OW1 but with hotgarbage monetization 😂

[@iFINNIX]

Quick Play is somehow more sweaty than ranked

[@eckroattheeckroat4246]

Ranked is a locked comp: Widow, Tracer, Winston, Ana, Zen. Every map. No swapping. Only those 5 heroes. Pure skill expression. Always a mirror match. Perfect competitive integrity. The best analytics possible. Realistically, the game won't be a true competitive experience until something like this happens. Quickplay is open-queue zany chaos. The QP crowd and the Ranked crowd just don't want the same game, the devs need to stop pretending there's one game that will make both groups happy.

[@plat4663]

Why doesnt Blizzard just add the ability to queu for specific maps in quickplay like TF2. A map ban would be more in line in competitive.

[@zerodestroyer5956]

Map ban or hero ban in the beginning of every game like siege would be great.

[@cooldiesel28]

Cause everyone would just q for kings row lol

[@tomorchard6660]

Bad queue times

[@aceclop]

​@@cooldiesel28 Truuuuuu

[@Kenos22]

Because 90% of people would queue for the same like 3 maps and other people would wanna play the others that no one plays? It would render at least half of the maps useless.

[@craigboure7607]

Close to 5 or 6 months since I've quit, but 6v6 will get me RIGHT BACK BABY

[@dreadtrap973]

any reason why? I've played both 5vs5 and 6vs6 and I'm pretty sure both were miserable.

[@CrossxFir3]

Only for you to remember why the game was more popular in 5v5 I’m sure

[@Myst1c_OW]

@@dreadtrap973 6v6 had way more individual and team play making potential since there were more players and hp was lower on every hero (widow 175, standard dps and supports 200, tankier supports and dps 225-250, bastion 300, tanks 400-500 etc)

[@seanschmeeckle6606]

I've been playing this whole time with baited breath waiting for my 6v6 to return. If they take it away again after that, I can quit in peace knowing the game will never be as good as it used to be.

[@Glizzyman]

@@CrossxFir3 yes bc 5v5 was totally why ow2 is so popular, not bc its free and a "sequel"

[@GarouOfficial]

3:34 isn’t hero specific passives just... a watered down version of the skill trees that was extensively marketed as the sole purpose for overwatch 2’s existence. So it’s like ordering a pizza, then after 3 years of production, having the old menu you used to enjoy that you OWNED (overwatch 1) being taken from you. then being told the pizza you ordered is too difficult to produce well. so they just decided not to make anything. Then almost 2 years later they hand you 1 pepperoni slice (hero passives) and think that’s satisfactory... Edit: 7:00 I think the point is completely missed here, we want less forced swapping, not more. If someone wants to play Moira they can, the second support can just go ana to counter a hog. If someone wants to play junk, they can, the second dps can just go hitscan to counter the pharah. If someone wants to go doom, the second tank can just go... oh wait... hmm the second tank can’t make up the weaknesses of their counterpart if there isn’t a second tank. This is where forced swapping becomes exacerbated when you HAVE to swap to win. You can’t just play better than the enemy. 8:41 I actually audibly laughed after hearing this, raid boss tanks make the game unplayable into the 1v1 matchups when it’s a tank vs any other role. Let’s for a second ignore the balancing issues and a raid boss widow that 1 shot body shots squishies. Why does 1 role HAVE to be overpowered? There has to be another solution. Why can’t it just be regular, symmetrical a congruent number of people per role per team. don’t make me say the format I’m eluding to. Anyone who read this far knows what I’m saying. 9:40 I don’t understand why people care so much about queue times when the quality of the match is awful. I’ll come out and say it, I want LONGER queue times. I played apex, that had near instant queue times, and I got stomped every game. And I still uninstalled that game shortly after realizing it’s matchmaking is so bad, and apex is dying. The point is, you can have near instant queue times and people will not enjoy the experience, focus on the quality of the matches not the quantity. I would rather play 2 matches a day that are intense, nail biter, edge of my seat, exhilarating, overtime clutching. than 6 matches that feel awful, and unbalanced, with no player agency. Man I remember being in queue for 20 minutes in overwatch 1 and I would seriously just go into the looking for group tab and laugh with my friends about the ridiculous names for some of the lobbies, for 20 minutes. Or play one of the thousands of possible and polished custom modes in workshop. Which if you’ve been living under a rock, got removed from overwatch. So instead of going from overwatch 1 to 2 it’s more like going from overwatch 1 to overwatch 0.9 since the only thing that got updated was the predatory in game monetization tactics. 10:40 I’ll be there on zar all day 12:50 yeah say that again when you’re getting lasered by A10 the contenders zarya on an off angle in 6v6 who did 180 damage per second at max charge. Absolutely 0 play making, player agency, or skill expression in 6v6. I don’t appreciate the straw man fallacy of this argument, you were doing really well until this point. Sorry if this is hard to hear, I don’t mean to be disrespectful, just communicating my disappointment. 11:50 so Korean players, top tier players like you just said, prefer open queue... which is goats at the highest competitive level... which is more than one tank... just say that one again out loud for yourself.

[@dereksparks112]

So you guys know none of the skill tree stuff was ever coming to pvp right? Like that was one clear thing they talked about. So if the skill tree stuff comes to pvp, I'm more excited then anything. Having customizable loadouts for heroes sounds fun and really cool. I don't care that it came from paladins. That she rocks over there

[@kotmerty1710]

exactly

[@scarletl9081]

honestly i blame overwatch 100% for supports having the most one tricks because if you want people to swap to more heros you need to add other heros that are at least a little similar to the hero they love to play most. all the supports are so different and some people just dont like needing to learn multiple really different heros. basically overwatch just needs a larger hero roster its way too small

[@luigi_border]

solution: switch voting. If over 50% of your team votes on you to switch hero, you're then forced to switch.

[@bonweech3346]

I need 6v6 back so that way I am not doing everything as tank. They need to decide if they want a team game or not cause 6v6 and having roles at all makes this game a team game. 5v5, just get rid of the roles at that point

[@CyQuelin]

So 6v6 is a team game and 5v5 isn’t? Explain the games that aren’t 6v6 that works team base wise then.

[@aquaticcor3324]

Bc it doesn’t feel like you’re playing AS a team in 5v5

[@TK-lb9rj]

@@aquaticcor3324how

[@Nehraaw_]

​@@CyQuelin Did you play OW1 ? Back then you had to coordinate everything. Right now in 5vs5 it's whoever kills the tank faster kills the rest of the team. Yes it's still team based but it's more brainless. I'm a tank main and after a few fights, if I see that I have the advantage I'll just focus the tank and the rest of the team will be defenseless. And when someone is stronger than me, my team gets demolished, no in-between.

[@CyQuelin]

@@Nehraaw_ I did. Played both tank and support just like I am in OW2. The only difference I see being it’s not ult heavy economy. Still have to coordinate just like then but imo the latter of what you said should be how it is. Unless you can send the enemy tank to their spawn while yours in spawn then you should be losing the fight. Tanks are there to create space. The problem I see isn’t that though, the one I see which was the same in OW1 is that most of these people don’t know how to coordinate together. As a tank player if you see an opening you go for it but a lot of the times you’ll be the only one because you trying to create space.

[@hiimnifty3625]

I remember watching this channel here and there way back in the day during overwatch 1 and thinking it was bad. I am glad to see that things can change and quality of videos. It went from bad to hot garbage.

[@Boop01013]

As someone who has played overwatch 1 since debut, I’m lost complete faith in this game. They really lied to us for 4 years and have no idea what they are doing with the new devs and why 6v6 was removed. I am completely exhausted with overwatch and I freaking love this game. Fuck bro

[@Navue-cn2tx]

It's time to move on bro 🫂

[@Rinkha_AMVs]

Adding a universal flex queue would solve queue times and keep 2 of each role. People use to play characters from different roles in overwatch. That’s stopped as soon as they added role lock. Match quality could go down, but if u make it one shared sr among all roles, ppl wouldn’t throw.

[@aceclop]

I'd still totally throw if my friends pissed me off lol

[@Rinkha_AMVs]

@@aceclop nah I be throwing too, but not my games. My fucking hands. I b throwing hands wit my friends if they doin some dumb shi

[@ghoulbuster1]

that should be only used for quickplay, comp should be 6v6 2-2-2

[@HAL0B0MB]

League does it well tbh

[@Rinkha_AMVs]

@@ghoulbuster1 I said flex queue but keep 2 of each role in the comment lol

[@ikczs]

The reason I quit overwatch 1 was Q times in Role Q. Sitting in a 30 min Q only for the game to get cancelled and Q for 30 minutes again. I like the idea of getting somewhere between role and open Q. I think it should be 6v6 open Q but with 1 hero (minimum) of each role. So it could be 1-2-3 or 2-2-2 or 4-1-1. At least this way you can play the game and not sit in Q all the time and you will not have 6 Dps comps and you will have some freedom switching your role in game.

[@redcomet1866]

That's why I stopped.

[@nazarenomilohanich4883]

Thats exactly what Ive been saying! Glad i'm not the only one lmao Openq with 1 minimun player per role would solve most issues

[@thorn4492]

when i reached top 438 on ps4 this legit happened. one day i played a total of 8 seconds in a game. 57 in Q. thats when i quit. 30 min Q. canceled game. 27 min Q. another cancelled game... like. glad im not the only one brother

[@pablosnackbar6417]

The life of a high elo chad. I’m glad being a plat shitter I could always find games. Mind you I quit when they introduced role queue the first time. Even as a tank main I liked the wild comps open queue offered.

[@dylanbruhhh4208]

I can’t believe we still don’t have map voting after 8 years

[@allencunningham9002]

The data shows we need 7v7, 2-3-2

[@MusicalBlam]

stfu please I'm tired of hearing the flats worshippers saying this godawful idea

[@xXUnownghost72Xx]

People’s Nintendo switches would blow up

[@Danolex-zg4em]

@@xXUnownghost72Xxit already fucking explodes with any ultimate

[@vaughnsoso4849]

The real take away: Blizzard played Marvel Rivals beta and are scared to go to sleep at night.

[@hannahabulhawa1567]

Remove Role locks but keep 2-2-2. Force you to play the role you are given and give you a chance of playing every role equally. The best OW player shouldn't be a one trick but the player who can play the most heroes. Right now, all i do is pick flex on role lock but only get tank and support. If they made everyone play flex then que times will be better & a players will have to play more heroes/roles to become a very versatile player.

[@kjak94]

The lack of support swapping is an issue even in high masters/low GM. It's crazy how often an Ana starts flaming the team because they're getting dove over and over but refusing to swap to a hero with higher mobility and evade. They're beating us because diving you is their win condition, and if you whiff your sleep then you're really only sinking us!

[@newwt6991]

When the enemy tank isn't dying the supports are very quick to blame the dps and tank when there's a literal character that denies healing lol.

[@Jaxxie_B]

@@newwt6991 Umm.... DPS passive says hello. I don't think it's as simple as blaming one or the other. For example, I see people flame support for not healing them, when they weren't in los (line of sight) of their team ALL THE TIME. Like.... What do you expect your support to do? Run through the middle of a fight to heal you? As far as swapping. I see more people playing hero roulette. Swapping 50 times isn't going to change a losing situation into a winning one.

[@dirtylove000]

you need to use more your trap with jukrat.

[@darksplash873]

From my observations it’s usually mercy players that swap least, and with how popular the character is to one trick I wouldn’t be surprised if the mid game swap star was heavily influenced by that group

[@mariopikmin1]

can we stop with the heavily click batey thumbnails

[@BigPro1123]

Actually though it’s insane

[@EchoYoutube]

If banning heroes becomes a thing, y'all are NEVER going to see a Widowmaker in my game.

[@Valkrill]

Just do 2 of any character max, no role ques. Just balance around that, it would be the most fun and still appeal to casual players while still being super competitive.

[@ShwiftyyZ]

9:44 is the time stamp for 6v6 for anyone whos interested.

[@-solo-4225]

Venture got left in the dust. No skins or anything. I almost feel bad for them. Lol.

[@DARKINBLADE.]

Venture was made for Pride Month and that's it. They literally hired someone from the Twitter community to voice them and not a well known voice actor. It's quite obvious what the intention was.

[@Chad.Commenter]

Good, down with trans ideology

[@bambampewpew32]

@@DARKINBLADE. wait really..

[@Lord_lost13]

@@DARKINBLADE. she was a diversity hire hero LOL

[@pabloinz382]

If they want to include multiple formats with independent queues, I really think they should allow you to queue for multiple gamemodes at the same time. I don't know why this isn't a feature already. It would probably help with the dead queue times of arcade modes too, since you could be queueing up for quickplay and arcade simultaneously, and just put you in the first match that it finds regardless of the mode. TF2 has had this feature since forever; you can queue for any mode by selecting different options on a checklist before searching for a match (and it lets you select individual maps within the modes too).

[@zenicwave3696]

You can't really stop sweaty players because they're always going to be there. The issue with counter is if it's not like CSGO than it's not possible to avoid people from hero swapping. The hybrid seems interesting, but It's not going to fix the issue as it's gonna pressure the DPS or even the tank given that people are always going to be toxic in comp or QP.

[@HAL0B0MB]

Just do what league does, preferred role queue with autofill and 5 games with autofill protection if you get autofilled. Majority of the time you get your role, and if you want you can vote to swap with someone.

[@eight_nine]

i honestly think that 5v5 made the the tank experience worst and in turn made the queue times worse. Also, a hybrid queue doesn't sound like a great idea if you remember overwatch 1 pre-rolelock and you had to fill roles that you didn't particularly play.

[@egonzalez4294]

I left OW because of 5v5 Was a tank main but then I felt like a glorified fat DPS, my job of making space, useless; it's all about kills.

[@MichaelSherrick]

@@egonzalez4294 womp womp

[@WalnutOW]

Increasing “individual player agency” is literally what got us here

[@WashiWashiJuan]

Freedo trying to not sound like he still loves 5v5 and counter swaps

[@deviljoegaming]

I wonder what 6v6 would mean for lower health tanks like doom? Cause he's already pretty killable, so would they move him back to dps?

[@eykan_ow]

I want mystery heroes comp again, it's just been gone way too long

[@Adam-vx6to]

I think most vocal critics of overwatch need to understand that there is no magical formula that will make the game perfect. This game will always be about compromises in some way or another, whether it's unbalanced for different ranks, certain heroes being overpowered, etc. People really seem unable to grasp that concept

[@Morgan.Farkind]

Cant wait for bubbled doomfist and matrix'd JQ to run over every match

[@PhoMyLife]

At this point just give us back the game we paid for. We don't care about the new characters, maps, new store or battle pass. Open the servers to both OW1 and OW2 and let the people decide.

[@jacklesser6902]

It seems support players complained and didn’t swap in the past, got huge buffs. Now they don’t swap and complain

[@hervisdaubeny2784]

That's women for ya

[@i2seven]

@@hervisdaubeny2784 ?

[@trillbill138]

I already quit my job and am on the verge of being homeless just to play 6v6

[@jay66n56]

If 6v6 dose come back i hope they add back assult maps to main gamemode rotation. Because then it would add some more map virety back to the main quick play and competitive modes.

[@ratfusion]

high chance it won’t,iirc they got rid of it cuz the maps weren’t balanced?

[@lifted71blazer]

Nah you don't want that, go play arcade where it appears like once every week or 2 and you'll see how bad it still is

[@jay66n56]

​@@lifted71blazer under 5v5 format I completely agree with you. But the game mode was designed with 6v6 in mind as a core mode originally, so it could be good for them to at least test it. And i cant see them makeing any maps for it anymore. Either way it'll be interesting to see what direction the game takes.

[@jay66n56]

@@ratfusion maps like Paris yes and was taken out of rotation if i recall corectly. But others like hanamura and vulskya weren't always to bad. And horisen moon colony was always fun for the zero grav moon flank.

[@lifted71blazer]

@@jay66n56 Even in 6v6 it was by far the most hated mode, I don't think there is a single person that doesn't have horror stories of pushing on those maps if they played them. Also it wasn't just paris that was bad, Horizon had to be removed along with it and Hanamura had ridiculous chokepoints that would only get worse in 6v6 compared to now and Anubis was near impossible to take 2nd point without having ult advantage from winning the first point fast. Volskaya honestly is the only one that I think wasn't objectively bad compared to other maps since there was a lot of options on both first and second point as an attacker. So if you want to defend Volskaya and champion that map I can maybe agree with that and if you really want to push it them maybe Anubis as well but the rest were just awful to the vast majority of players myself included. This is all assuming that you aren't advocating for an extensive rework of those maps to the point where it won't play anything like how it used to.

[@iWhisperASMR]

Overwatch 2 should cater to diverse player preferences by offering a variety of game modes: 6v6 for competitive play to maintain the strategic depth and teamwork the game is known for; 5v5 for casual play to lower the entry barrier and simplify team coordination; 4v4 with unique party game objectives to provide a fun and creative experience; 3v3 deathmatch for intense, skill-focused combat; 2v2 incorporating PvE elements for cooperative challenges; and 1v1 for highly competitive players seeking prestige and recognition. This inclusive approach will enhance player engagement, satisfaction, and ensure the game's longevity and growth in the competitive gaming landscape.

[@pyrosiscryo]

I'm kinda surprised that no one, other than me, is talking about the idea of having 5v5 and 6v6 as two different quick play modes.

[@Bezgels]

a major reason they switched from 6v6 to 5v5 was because queue times were too long, that would only make the problem worse

[@dinoblaster736]

@@Bezgels it was a benefit not the reason, the reason is they needed to justify the "2"

[@pyrosiscryo]

@@Bezgels and the problem remained the same, and even became worse for DPS players.

[@liamrodgers4285]

@@pyrosiscryo queue times are literally way shorter in ow2 for dps tho?

[@jimmyjab8744]

a ton of people have asked for this, a ton of people have replied with it would split the player base up too much and make queue times much worse (at least in role lock)

[@astararrialt2017]

okay i liked hero bans and map rotations in overwatch 1 but the thing i hated about hero bans was the fact that you could be in a game popping off on one hero and then all of a sudden the ban goes into effect and now you have to switch. that part was totally unfair and i def lost a couple competitive games because of that

[@tysongrathwohl1164]

High plat low diamond my queue times are fine in all roles. I never wait for more than like 2 minures

[@dxmxged_lotus_-9033]

Queue times don't really affect anyone below high masters. By masters you're with the top 5% of the playerbase. Let's say there's 500k across all PC that's only 25k people who would be masters and above. Across 3 different regions. Across 3 different ranks. This is an example. But as a season goes on the 500k dwindles...

[@paradopx8618]

6:20 the community not swapping healers is the most OW thing possible

[@mafikdew78]

Usually a bunch of one trick mercy players 🙄

[@Jaxxie_B]

@@mafikdew78 I think it's only a issue in the low metal ranks. Which makes sense, low skill players are going to choose easier characters to play. And mercy is brain dead easy, same goes for Lucio.

[@charlesbooker1393]

“Sky’s the limit” is a dangerous mindset when it comes to these guys who let you down all the time

[@iFINNIX]

The only thing I miss about 6v6 is having the second tank peel for your team while the other tank holds the frontline

[@blaynegreiner9365]

You mention the "TikTok understanding" and it triggered me to all the cringe takes on that platform. The amount of misinformation and just flat out wrong understanding of Overwatch on TikTok is mind blowing.

[@kab193]

I like 5V5 more but definitely think Tank players use open Q a lot to get their 2+tank fix

[@LucarioDXAuraStorm]

1:58 Voice crack. RIP

[@adryandrona3048]

Sounds on the verge of tears sometimes lol

[@Noobieswede]

I think a reason why supports don’t swap as much is because it takes on average longer for a support to get their ult so it feels more punishing to swap often.

[@MichaelSherrick]

YEAH! Everyone when they're doing TESTING to get important DATA, clear your schedules and play the game at an ABNORMAL amount so we can SKEW THE NUMBERS!!! YEAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! That way when the data shows that we really like the game mode and they devote everything to it and eventually release it instead of other content, we go back to work and play a normal amount so the whole thing FLOPS!!! YESSSSSSSSSS

[@JH-wl4yy]

Healer üocketing is a major major issue, ppl get on in their groups and the dps in the group convinces the healer that their only role is to pocket or heal bot so the dps can get potg. Regardless if they lose. I think how potg works needs to be readjusted to highlights different types of big plays.

[@GenerallDRK]

OW2 NEEDS A VARIATION SYSTEM. Allow the players to switch to old school character kits / current kits. It brings skillful match learning and it just makes the game more fun.

[@Oookat]

Game gets very complicated, and it’s how games die quicker

[@jesseg9041]

So allow me to use scatter arrow?😃

[@jksoftware1]

Heck yeah I am looking forward to the changes. May the best form win 5v5 or 6v6. I've been waiting for a long time to be able to play 6v6 again and yes I will play the hell out of the test as a tank once they start the test.

[@dinoblaster736]

if they are worried about que times just add multi que, allow people to que for multiple modes at once

[@victortestacarlini]

Isn't it the case that sups change less because their abilities are specific towards another "role" and not so much another "player"? I mean, yes, Ana's nade is especially strong against Hog and Mauga, but in all honesty, she's always effective against tanks. Zen is the same with his orb. Lúcio is always somewhat useful as his speed is a good tool for either disengaging or runnning in, although he really fits in with certain characters. Sups are more flexible themselves as they have the best balance in terms of offense and defense, and actually counterpicking is more difficult against them (i.e.: less heroes "have" to swap because there's something on the other side or the comp in your side is completely unplayable). A less extreme (but IMO the perfect) example could be Kiri, who does it all, so she's always good in a sense. She might not be optimal in every comp or meta every season, but she's always slottable and has effectively no "hard counters". If the team needs to go in, needs off-angle pressure, heals, flanks, cleanses, survivability, ...

[@rageow_]

WE need the old doom🙏

[@FiniteVoid]

fuck no

[@feetlover1028]

@@FiniteVoid fuck yes just give him some litlte nerfs and he's ready to go

[@grald1195]

Okay but like what he does on tank is kind of cool so long as he's not in CC hell

[@rageow_]

@@grald1195 yeah i mean CC's ruined doom in the first place, then they made him worse by making him tank, i still like doom but its just so weak

[@treasuredquartz]

Uppercut. Don't care about One-Shot Punch.

[@kryptyk7712]

I have a better suggestion for the 6v6. Make the All Roles selection in the queue a flex spot in the game itself. You want two tanks vs two tanks? Sure, go for it. You want 3 dps to counter something like 3 support or 2 tanks? That could be a good strategy. That will allow us flex players to queue in to games and make these decisions. It will allow the DPS hardcores to only queue as DPS with lesser queue times (whichever they deem to be lesser based on visible queue timers). The DPS timers will always be a thing. Always has been. You cannot fix the player desire to only play DPS, only try to entice them in to other roles. Maybe they are the "third DPS" in a match that has 2 tanks hard diving backlines and they realize it would be better to swap over to tank due to getting absolutely thumped by a ball / monke wombo combo. And lastly, it would make the All Roles queue not be a pseudo tank role queue. 90% of the games being tank, only to be given a smattering of support and once in a blue moon DPS.

[@afterthought9538]

Hanzo should have a hero-specific passive that lets him do 5 extra damage with primary :/

[@l0adedmc780]

Agreed but everyone will end up complaining once again

[@hervisdaubeny2784]

Hanzo players when they can't just Insta kill every hero:😢😢😢😢

[@l0adedmc780]

@@hervisdaubeny2784 Hanzo haters when they run into his arrows: WAHH WAHH NERF HIM 😡🤬

[@afterthought9538]

@@l0adedmc780 Or stand still lol. The common variable for every Hanzo hater is low IQ.

[@Nehraaw_]

​@@l0adedmc780I mean yeah I used to get one shot by 70% of random shots. Never in my life I was like "Wow this shot was impressive this player is skilled"

[@THYnameISsarcasm]

Honestly, having one person on a team as a flex role sounds ideal to me. If they go tank they can get the open queue stats, otherwise that player can just play any role

[@justinu4521]

I did a bunch of blow and drank like 30 beers last night, played quick play and did absolutely horrible. Loved every second

[@nicholashudson1283]

I think the dps and tank should choose based on what the supports are. For example if there's a Lucio, probably don't play an Orisa unless you have a pocket Mercy.

[@Milesrgomez]

Orisa is fine with Lucio. Also... don't pair Lucio+ Mercy. Bap/Kiri with Lucio is a great backline.

[@tjfkc]

AMEN on the supports not swapping rant. I main support but it is infuriating when I play tank and the supports will flame you for not solving a problem by yourself, when they themselves made no attempt to adjust or swap to the situation

[@EmperorofThings]

As a tank its almost abysmal being tank. Its so hard trying to keep the team from dying as well as provide proper protection to supports. You're also the first to be targeted. 6v6 would make being tank so much better

[@AlexTheHorrid]

Can’t waiiittt for 6v6!!! I finally have faith in this game again. Glad they understand why tank sucks in the 5v5 format

[@d.harper4770]

My name on OW is tank. i mained all the tanks since OW and the game is trash as a tank main. made me quit to go play something else instead. tanking on OW2 is azz for many reasons. if 6v6 does come back ill play again but aside from that never again

[@seanschmeeckle6606]

Yup. It took 2 years for Dva to finally be fun in OW2 and the whole community is instantly screaming for nerfs. 5v5 is literally just "Raid boss of the season" and it's so annoying

[@AlexTheHorrid]

@@d.harper4770 I agree. I loved playing tank now I barely do because it is boom or bust, and when I’m losing i get flamed and it just feels bad. I’ve always preferred having another role. If another role like DPS or Support were solo they’d hate it too

[@AlexTheHorrid]

@@seanschmeeckle6606 because it is true. A raid boss on each team sucks. But I do feel you, I took a while to learn DVA in OW1 and I loved playing her, but because of 5v5 I just hate the tank role so in ways a lot of that tank practicing went to waste. I had way more fun as a DVA player in OW1

[@CrossxFir3]

Dps and support suck in 6v6. If they go back, I promise the game will suffer.

[@fearbreazy5558]

I think it’s just too little to late, I loved overwatch 1 game was beautiful it was fun you got rewarded for playing right and I would play everyday but now I just don’t get that same satisfaction anymore there’s nothing quite as satisfying as a nice coordinated dive nowadays it’s nearly impossible to dive a support cause it’s so easy for them to just say no and it feels like crap you get punished for attacking out of position supports now and it’s just not very dynamic anymore idk exactly where they went wrong but it just feels bad to play nowadays you play good for one objective next fight they’re gonna have 3 counter picks for you to stop you from having fun and it becomes a chore

[@MI-wf1lw]

I like 5v5 mutch more than old 6v6, I hope it will stay.

[@DARKINBLADE.]

I don't. I'm a support main and most games feel like they're decided on tank diff now. It's starting to get boring.

[@bermie282]

​@DARKINBLADE. Pretty much.. thanks to counterwatch youll eventually hit a tank you suck at but just have to play..

[@Hisoka.44]

Must be Korean

[@shafikkrissoondatt951]

Enjoy 5 v 5 while you still can because it's gonna get thrown out the window as soon as that 6 v 6 arcade game mode comes out

[@Yucky358]

BRING OW1 SERVERS BACK UP!!!! IT WAS THE BETTER GAME! DELETE MAUGA! BRING BACK DPS DOOMFIST! ACTUAL 6V6! there we go game's fixed

[@pablosnackbar6417]

I agree. Even when we get 6v6 in OW2 I still don’t think it will be as good as peak OW. Just reboot the servers.