"if the reference track sounds terrible, all you have to do is make your track sound terrible in the exact same way, and you are good!" this is probably the most underrated advice you can give someone
@Dull3n210 ай бұрын
genius advice fr
@jeffreyhanc171110 ай бұрын
That’s the problem with so much music today: everybody copying everybody. Try making your music suck in your own UNIQUE sucky way.
@alecgoldberg30310 ай бұрын
he's the goat
@kategoss54547 ай бұрын
@@jeffreyhanc1711 If every novelist made up a language for every book, nobody would read them. You learn to talk from copying your parents, friends, media, and reflecting on what suits your purposes. Music is the same- learn languages, and make sentences. They need to make sense to you, so you need to develop your own sense of your tastes and opinions. And crucially, musicians need to appropriate techniques, such as the use of instruments, keys, modes, styles, rhythms, arrangements, motifs, or whatever else inspires you.
@ace-smith7 ай бұрын
@@kategoss5454 a+. people get too hung up on unrealistic and arbitrary ideas of "uniqueness"
@ctrainbeats10 ай бұрын
hell yea, i knew after 10 years the reason my music sucks is because of my car
@TheTonyTitan10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@IsraelMolina199710 ай бұрын
Hahahahaha same
@dani_salguero10 ай бұрын
XD
@dj0shtur10 ай бұрын
Hahaha good I have no car. Spent all the money on gear.
@abrahamclark76710 ай бұрын
Respekt
@wyde081210 ай бұрын
I lost it all, my confidence, my girlfriend, and no bangin boogies to get down with the boys. It wasn't until I visited Dr. Underbelly that I was diagnosed with loopitis and had it for the last 5 years. Rest assured I'm now on track to get at least one song completed by the end of the month. Thanks Dr. Underbelly!
@jclokwork10 ай бұрын
On Track 👀. I see what you did there even if you didn't. 👏
@PlunderAchiever10 ай бұрын
@@jclokworkunderrated reply
@trayvanakin59110 ай бұрын
Not the loopitis 😂
@profyle76610 ай бұрын
Bro...i was actually feeling a bit for you and about to say"strange name for s a DR..get well soon" and shit..then my guy says in the vid about catching loopitus!! I fukin DIed. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@milztempelrowski928110 ай бұрын
get well soon and please wear a mask xD
@dennis_doom10 ай бұрын
the "ok so check it" gets me every single time. no matter how many videos i watch that confirm that i suck at producing
@futur_sunds10 ай бұрын
Leaped for joy when I got a notification for this. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. This guy is THE best resource for genuine and relevant music production information without being bored out of your mind 🐐
@ocupado65810 ай бұрын
wowzers
@futur_sunds10 ай бұрын
@rickyneves5895 with da sauce
@theonenonlybass10 ай бұрын
I got high before watching it for ultimate entertainment and it didn't fail.. and all of those tips couldn't be more true and crucial (except maybe the 1st tip about clipping, and i get his point but i think it's best (even in bass music stuff) to retain some dynamic while tryin to match the reference track loudness rather than jus clipping your way to it for the sake of lufs.. that's why the last tip about using reference tracks is the most important one cuz eventually you'll find out whats the problem in your mix at that stage just with comparing and analyzing.. (sorry about my long ass rant 🙏🏻 i fw that man and want no beef with him)
@futur_sunds10 ай бұрын
@@theonenonlybass everyone’s got their own preferences. It’s part of what makes unique music
@cavedwellersound10 ай бұрын
fuckin ay
@RobVice10 ай бұрын
4:48 I was diagnosed with loopitis but then I started getting in those broad strokes during the session. After hours of hard stroking it finally happened! Thanks to Mr. Overchest I am no longer a loop-virgin!
@joonglegamer989810 ай бұрын
One thing I've come to learn over the years is to not drown your music in instruments. Like good cooking, a few ingredients made well is good enough and can bring the flavour of that particular vegetable or meat savory and perfect. Same for sounds. The most common mistake I did in my early days was to add too many tracks with instruments. Another thing is to not let an instrument dominate too much, it should support the music not dominate it.
@spiritlevelstudios10 ай бұрын
Ye simple is nice. Tough to achieve with enough fullness but doable. Having dedicated background sounds and rhythms that sit low in the mix helps fill out and create the space that leads and hooks float around in.
@innavision19207 ай бұрын
Simple finesse is the way
@WithJustaWhisperMusic10 ай бұрын
Your last tip is so underrated! You might be the first person that I've encountered to talk about this. It's true, you gotta give up trying to make your song sound perfect on every playback device. It's an endless trap of analysis paralysis.
@snubdawg138610 ай бұрын
the combination of my studio monitors + headphones + tv speakers (or laptop speakers) works pretty well for me
@nnarcus10 ай бұрын
yep. it's only by time I've learned that many of my favorite producers and engineers work on Beats or other shit but they know the sound so well so it doesn't matter
@ILIKETOBOOM10 ай бұрын
analysis paralysis. Hot dam ima steal that
@cavedwellersound10 ай бұрын
this was so refreshing to hear
@WithJustaWhisperMusic10 ай бұрын
@@snubdawg1386 Yah, nothing wrong with focusing on making your music sound good on those! Most people are going to be listening to music on headphones anyways, so I tend to make sure my mix sounds decent on ear buds and over the ear headphones. I used to primarily mix on headphones, but now I normally mix on speakers because I feel like it translates better all around to all playback devices. I suppose you have to find what works for you. 😀
@dedrxbbit75497 ай бұрын
Here’s a bonus tip I’ve learned over 17 years. Yes, don’t over process your drums. Maybe one distortion. Maybe one compressor. Maybe one EQ. Not always all three, not always in a specific order, but that’s about it. Also, underrated tip but equally important, _ADD REVERB TO ALL OF YOUR DRUM SAMPLES._ If everything else in your track gets room to sit in, why not your drums? And ik, some of you are gonna say “yOu CaN’t PuT rEvErB oN a KiCk DuMbAsS,” and to you I say, “ever cut the low end of your reverb bucko? Probably not if you’re saying this.” I tend to use two reverbs. One very very very wet reverb (still full dry) that has a short decay and physically mimics a 4-walled room, and another one with slightly more decay, larger room, and less wet.
@huntingvega387628 күн бұрын
100% agree. there's a great Sound On Sound article called "How To Use Reverb Like A Pro" that gives similar advice
@urphakeandgey630810 ай бұрын
I agree with the drum samples. Sound selection is a very fundamental thing people sometimes forget. This applies most for samples, since it's the most literal example of "sound selection" possible, but it also applies from synth patches too. You want your "starting point," whether it's a preset or an original patch, to be as good as possible. Like 90% of the way there. Then process from there.
@Osax-music10 ай бұрын
"Just make your track sound terrible in the exact same way"
@DrumNBassed10 ай бұрын
One thing I must stress to new producers to break out of loopitis is to work with vocals ASAP. Vocals can give a clear direction for a song rather than an instrumental. For instrumental music you need to have really solid motifs that act how a vocal would. Solar System by Sub Focus is a good example of this.
@sashimi8799 ай бұрын
Most generic tune ever. Boring
@lavenderllamamusic10 ай бұрын
The two i'm currently working on are loopitis and reference tracks. The last one, has never really been a problem for me, but i think laziness actually helps me avoid falling into that bad habit. I have a desk with cheap (decent) speakers and a sub on the floor. I would usually get on there to create, but i have a pile of shirts n stuff on my desk chair that i'm too lazy to move/put away. So for the past year, i've just been producing on my bed with my headphones and recently, a bluetooth/3.5mm jack speaker. I test out my mixes in my car and it's been consistently good with this setup. Just don't think about it too much is what I would say lol
@kentwood98213 ай бұрын
Reference tracks for mixing is a stupidly great idea for making the most of any headphone/monitoring system.
@corradinomusic10 ай бұрын
Happy recovery from loopitis guys🙌
@ohmaramusic10 ай бұрын
Loopitis?! Is it loopitis?!
@TripleTSingt7 ай бұрын
when I made my techno album, I was mixing on my KRKs and headphones, as well as doing a car check. Since both my primary mixing setups have little bass (5" speakers with no subwoofer), I realized very fast in the car, that the main thing was "sub is too loud", so I turned that down and now I really like my mix on most systems.
@ThunderPantaloons21 күн бұрын
You are by FAR my favorite music production channel. My life’s mission is to watch every video of yours until I no longer suck at producing.
@conway345210 ай бұрын
Okay so I'm following the instructions and I just bought the 02 Corolla. I'm already battling student debt, and the apr is shoddy (only like 18%). Anywho will there be a part 2 to assist with loan issues? Thanks!
@tav3334 ай бұрын
i am just finding this guy. man i've seen A LOT of producing videos, but no one has ever been this thurough while also being this naturally funny. i love how you keep it fun man that's what music is all about. i feel like a lot of people on YT miss that and take all of the enjoyment out of learning. thank you for your help i know exactly where i'm coming anytime i wanna suck less at producing😂
@unknownrocketeer928910 ай бұрын
you're so great bro even after ten years plus of producing I still watch ya. love ya 💜
@Isaac-yt3bv10 ай бұрын
I know you have some older videos on it, but I think a video going in depth on gain staging, clipping, peaks, and generally just volume would be a great resource actually. I think both music producers and streamers would benefit a lot from it. I tune into way too many streams where the volume is just way too low.
@soniromanov5 ай бұрын
I haven't laughed this hard in so long. "If the reference track sounds terrible, all you gotta do is make your track sound terrible in the exact same way", love it because it's so true. Subscribed.
@lifexearth10 ай бұрын
It's funny cause, I already understood a lot of the concepts he was talking about in this video. But the one thing I took from this video to start using reference in my projects to get the same effect and loudness as the person's track I am using as a reference. Thanks for making this video, it goes to show that no matter how much experience you have in something, you can still learn something new.
@MrBubbyG_Official10 ай бұрын
Addictive editing style and video format. Great video. Subbed
@kamcosmic10 ай бұрын
Definitely suffering from loopitis, i really struggle with multiple drum patterns, can make 2 at most. (Genre is more like alt rnb/hiphop)
@joshkeating782510 ай бұрын
I’ve recently started using more toms and multiple different hats, and it adds so much variation, depth, and texture. Helps change up patterns more to have more pieces to spread out.
@kamcosmic10 ай бұрын
@@joshkeating7825 Same! Definitely helped my drums in general. However I feel like my songs could benefit from multiple kick/snare patterns, so I actually have more change in dynamics, cuz usually those stay the same for me (aside from moving around ghost notes and whatnot) but yeah not sure if thats necessary. I REALLY needed to hear about the honeymoon phase thing, i thought if i get bored of a beat after hearing it a million times its just not good enough lol.
@joshkeating782510 ай бұрын
@@kamcosmic totally true, dude. Mixing is a fickle task; it can really skew your opinion on your track no matter how good it sounds. Definitely have a beat graveyard that I go in and listen to sometimes and am like “what, this is heat, why is this down here”
@stripedelicstudios10 ай бұрын
You've gotten really good at teaching production! Please keep it up!!!
@lionnonny10 ай бұрын
Priceless with the hilarity 😂
@luisinhobr10 ай бұрын
as a visual arts student I love to see comparisons between different arts like what you did with Bob Ross. keep it up
@sebostar12310 ай бұрын
ur a legend been watching since forever so happy ur still uploading
@heymr.k10 ай бұрын
My Bro just described my first 5 years of music making
@staysmuth10 ай бұрын
I started using a reference track to do production now. as in, load "baby blue", notate every section and big change "-bass 4 bars here, add melody filtered back" etc, and then build my entire track around that. I've never fleshed out full songs so fast. having a skeleton is by far the greatest game changer.
@jasonanderson503410 ай бұрын
if u actually make original music like unique u can't use a reference how do i find a reference for a lo-fi death metal song
@secretchefcollective44410 ай бұрын
@@jasonanderson5034 Just use one song from each genre, mash them together (with a saturator obvs, don't worry if one is 70bpm and one is 200) and add section refs: intro, whining about losing a lover, whining about why govts always go to war, chorus, more whining, break (more whinging), chorus, outro. Job done.
@LionHrodgari15 күн бұрын
4:21 was the biggest game changer for me. I used to mess around with the sound of my kick or the eq on that synth for hours before finishing to sketch out the broad idea of the track. Those things aren't useless in general but they are wasted things, while your ears are still fresh. Every track where I waste time tinkering on things I shouldnt tinker with, never gets finished because after tinkering for an hour, all the creativity is usually gone.
@lemonberries10 ай бұрын
The king has returned
@ivazhu10 ай бұрын
Thank you Underbelly! Who else in the world would remind me how much I suck at producing. Love to learn from you! Long life for your channel!
@OutOfMySystem10 ай бұрын
I want that stacked OTT chain
@aeroliteAus10 ай бұрын
You’re already ahead of the game using Leotrix as a reference
@Delr0ssy9 ай бұрын
my music sucks, and I suck at producing. you are my only hope of getting better. love you man
@yasin690410 ай бұрын
Where has this guy been all my life
@tynan_official9 ай бұрын
Unironically some of the best advice for modern day bass music production. A+ work 🤝
@MichaelsPaintingChannel10 ай бұрын
Maaan, that was gold! I knew that already. I was sick testing my classical guitar pieces in my car. It's always the most horrible experience. Of course I've learned a lot over time and hat much improved, but the rest of the bad noises are from the car speakers! I have another one: I've seen many finding a peak in the spectrum meter and then immediately eq it out. I mean, that really don't have to be always the case. Some notes or tone have that peak - it's ok!
@PixelTravelYT10 ай бұрын
the ph drum intro at 2:06 😂
@DJDREWID4 ай бұрын
thank you, bro you’re helping me achieve a higher state of gibbis within my music production as well as like , a proper UK mixed down keep up the decent work
@FuranGameplays10 ай бұрын
One thing I learned the hard way is: trust your ears. Too much visual information when mixing can be a problem for a noob.
@aeonATL10 ай бұрын
Ditto
@JerkyTreats10 ай бұрын
Putting key changes or chords in locators is also useful.
@mubumubu597510 ай бұрын
That list tip saved me 😅been stressing over getting the low-end right for multiple systems. I'll just focus on the ones i expect my song to be heard and call it a day! Release time 😊🎉
@Divergent-ym3py10 ай бұрын
Remind me of Basically Homeless but for music instead of games.
@DeejayRach010 ай бұрын
Thank you
@F_E_U10 ай бұрын
love the haïda pic in the background, have a moon design myself
@mdfkrz7910 ай бұрын
I have some really good headphones I've rarely used, I turn up the volume to 50 and make it sound ok between some sound magic in ears and some audio technica overly bassy headphones, most people are listening on something between the 2 as far as quality goes anyway lol
@andreiavram586110 ай бұрын
4:36 c'mon man don't EXPOSE ME LIKE THAAAT 😭😭😭😭
@016_3 ай бұрын
1:27 I was reminded of Bo Bunrhams Squares vs Circles joke haha. Our beautiful Sine turns into an UGLY, ANGULAR Square wave 😂
@stripedelicstudios10 ай бұрын
Great video!!! Wish i saw this a few years back. You rock!
@zepharephic53815 ай бұрын
I fuckin' love you dude A non-serious serious tutorial video about all the things I've been doing wrong, in a way that just cracks me up just right
@larrybwoy297010 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@wntrsoul7 ай бұрын
McDonald coins
@BraveTheStorm10 ай бұрын
mans still got it
@DawlessHouseMusic10 ай бұрын
Your intro was REAL.
@williamfields10 ай бұрын
Great advice. I still can’t believe we’re at -4 LUFS though. 🙉
@JakubSchlosser-i3qАй бұрын
this guy is so accurate with all the things he is saying about my production skills etc
@sausausaus10 ай бұрын
ty!
@nobodys235810 ай бұрын
The Earth is finally healing ❤ Missed you man
@tobias_george10 ай бұрын
As someone getting back into producing 6 years since practically giving up altogether, I needed this. Love u Underbelly
@Vysceral694 ай бұрын
You're fantastic dude I appreciate this channel so much.
@theisandersen61410 ай бұрын
this was probably your best video yet
@Piercemxpx7 ай бұрын
The reference track with luf meter, & using it for the sub as well, is easily the biggest epiphany I’ve had in a long time. That is gonna make my life sooooo much easier from now on
@AlecWyld10 ай бұрын
Your videos never get old man haha. Love it.
@kurokurokuro915210 ай бұрын
the marker thing to use reference track song structure is actually golden for me since i struggle with that the most tbh
@jacktheeditor50210 ай бұрын
Can you make a video on how to create multiple styles of dance songs(think James Brown, or Donna Summer or Cha Cha, Jungle)? A playlist with these kind of videos would suffice as well. By the way, your channel is a blessing.
@kamranramsdenmusic10 ай бұрын
So glad you’re releasing this kind of content again! Been following the channel throughout my entire production journey and the fact that I’m somewhat half-decent now is thanks in a large part to you.
@livinthrusound10 ай бұрын
No matter what car I'm in, my mixes always sound like sh*t. Car manufacturers need to fix their sound system or something.
@tracktaylor27836 ай бұрын
Dude you are hilarous🤣🤣 and very educational too.. subsribed!!
@Air1_R110 ай бұрын
In the intro I always hear "Ok Sir chicken"
@Rivalofficial10 ай бұрын
incredible simply incredible
@dj_Davepz10 ай бұрын
It's always the car. Happy new year mate 🎶
@chema__gonzalez__10 ай бұрын
Sweeet bonkers wowzers uncle Barry is back with the tutorial and I am on the chuff train.
@jonmora889010 ай бұрын
Thank you, you also have a great day 🙏😌
@nacha84039 ай бұрын
The part on the “loopitis” is really deeply true
@shdsky10 ай бұрын
finally someone talking about that ive recently discovered that you can calibrate your ears to pretty much any output source no matter how shitty it is with the use of references. feels almost like a cheatcode. once you realize that, all that talk about "shit-testing" your tracks goes to waste
@Thepaulislame10 ай бұрын
Really helpful, love this style of video. Thanks man :)
@celsoduque66349 ай бұрын
This guy is amazing at teaching, learning a lot from the videos in a fun way and just got a free orientation from him after entering the website, it's trully mind blowing and an honor for me, gotta love the internet. Thanks for your wisdom and knowledge sharing bro, and giving out the most valueable thing in life, time. I'll pay for a class when I get the money and organize my doubts in place. Dude is awesome! Thanks again.
@magnificus2310 ай бұрын
Underbelly, you’re a shining source of infinite wisdom! Thank you!
@emilholmsten860010 ай бұрын
Getting there
@GARCIIIAmonster10 ай бұрын
i liked the kick at the benining
@mariusglaser402010 ай бұрын
Once again, wisdom was shared. So next time with the boys I can use the excuse that It's probably the car. Thank you underbelly 🙏
@WithJustaWhisperMusic10 ай бұрын
Finally an excuse that is actually legitimate. 😂
@BEEB-music10 ай бұрын
These tips are actually super useful! This is exactly what I needed to hear lol
@BasementEraAudio10 ай бұрын
You have opened my eyes to my many flaws! Thank you, sensei
@thewiddler174610 ай бұрын
clipping inside the DAW is different than clipping on master for export. 32 bit float means you basically have infinite headroom while in the project
@coopernichols427510 ай бұрын
If you export a track that clips the master (turn off dithering), it's not really different than using a clipper or limiter at the end of your master chain. Mr. Bill has a whole video about it, but yeah, IMO it sounds better than any clipper I've tried.
@danibeing110 ай бұрын
tyyy man
@miguiz_10 ай бұрын
The intro === my life
@zoeydionne637810 ай бұрын
Wowsers
@dylangonzalez168810 ай бұрын
How is he wearing the same shirt as the stock image 8:04
@unknownrocketeer928910 ай бұрын
I feel so called out I used to mix on inkd and I actually had the song pop the fuck off haha totally agree
@aloc237 ай бұрын
actual useful information in a short time with great humor so it‘s even more fun to watch.. awesome!
@Uuuu-y8s10 ай бұрын
the start of the video is literally me before having a severe life crisis that ends with me doing a parachute jump from a skyscraper w/o parachute :D
@joaopedromedinamartinscarr68999 ай бұрын
Happy you are still uploading gold education and not giving up working on us. Stay forever please ;)
@in_10z10 ай бұрын
Bruh!! "You're finally ready to show off your shit song to your boys in your friend's 2002 Camry so you ask him to pass the aux, your song comes on, and it sounds terrible. There's like no bass bro." Bahaha. Man I needed this after a long day today. Thanks. You are the BroScience of producing haha.
@amenbreak497010 ай бұрын
the OG has preached! however, do you guys export the track hot on +7 clipping or do you prefer a DIY mastering chain (I usually use an utility to compensate the clipping i.e. -7db, maximizer, standardclip and a limiter and go for the same LUFs)
@magnopere5 ай бұрын
I tend to try to add as little on the end of the chain as possible. But always Freeclip at the very end, lol. Recently I've just been adding a super subtle comp beforehand. So trying to keep the individual tracks close to 0, mixing with room for the bands, and the soft clipper at the end for the LUFs
@joshkeating782510 ай бұрын
Thanks, homie!
@theJiveMind10 ай бұрын
Thanks for disabusing me of these silly notions
@dasiegel10 ай бұрын
Great video, long time no educational one
@tysonlenard959410 ай бұрын
I watch your videos for tips. I stay for the humor.
@ManoKuerten3 ай бұрын
Bro, funny as heck as educational! Thank you!
@winterlogical10 ай бұрын
It goes for any stage of the process, but especially for overprocessing, I've found it helpful to forcefully stop myself every now and then and ask the question: "Is what I'm doing actually improving the sound in the context of the track? Is it improving the song in general?" There may be times where compressing that snare gives it that extra punch you want, sure, but if it's not serving the song or is just compressed "because it should be," then you're missing the point. By and large if you just grab a different, punchier sample, make that synth chord patch better sounding from the get-go, design a bass with more low-end instead of artificially adding it, etc. etc. you'll be much better off.
@WithJustaWhisperMusic10 ай бұрын
So true! We do so many things, because we think that's what we're supposed to do for our mixes and sound design. 😂 Sometimes we just forget to adhere to what is actually present and adjust accordingly. 🤷