YouTube sailing disasters

[@SailingTeamTallyHo]

I appreciate your videos. I've been a charter captain, boat owner (still own one), charter master, delivery captain for several decades and have seen so many people catch the dream. So often when they take delivery of the boat, (and sometimes I've sailed with them on their first voyage) something happens or their spirit changes and the boat becomes a floating RV that doesn't move and is really never touched again, nor do I really hear from them much again. In another case, the family worked on the boat for 2.5 years only to have it sink at its slip before their first real venture beyond a daysail. Heartbreaking. I know many of them, without the benefit of KZbin, have gone through extreme angst with it as their boat has a for sale sign on it as it sits on the hard in the bone yard. However, some are still sailing and enjoying every journey....but they went into it with the awareness of the information you provide here. Thanks. You do the sport of sailing/yachting a great service.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

100% I have seen that as well all to often. With my consulting I usually will be on the first voyage/delivery with the owners. I also bring along my members . I always see the change in their faces especially with members. We do an off shore trip, they cannot wait to get back to land and about 95% of the time they all decide not to buy a sailboat. The life of sailing full time is not at all what it is racked up to be on youtube and boat ownership is incredibly exspensive. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment your personal experience and knowlege,

[@Shepherdservices317]

Teach me how to do what you were doing lol

[@MegaAmused]

Good comments! I've been a sailor since I was a little kid, and have owned sailboats on and off for the last few decades, with the last one owned for about a decade and a half. I've owned and operated a sailing school in the Pacific Northwest, and am now a Yacht Surveyor - between these activities, I've advised an awful lot of people regarding purchasing a vessel. Most novices who are picturing jumping into sailing and shortly thereafter, crossing an ocean, won't, or shouldn't. A great path is to take lessons, buy a decent, smaller boat than you would need for an ocean crossing, and learn to sail! Maybe charter a bit, in distant destinations. See how you like it without betting the whole farm. And rather than starting with a major refit, which often ends in tears, as a novice sailor, best to start with a fully functional boat that minimally meets your 'needs'. I've met couples and young families who've spent several entire summers (or winters in a Southern Climate) out cruising on a 24 foot sailboat that they bought for a few thousand dollars, which is a WAY better investment than blowing through a couple of hundred K and never getting comfortable with the basics, with a boat that winds up turning into a 'dock Queen' that is rapidly depreciating, tied to a dock and suffering maintenance neglect in salt water. Get out there doing coastal cruising on an affordable boat. Become a proficient sailor. And any destination in the world that you'd like to cruise, there are going to be decent boats you can charter, all ready to go waiting for you to take them off the dock, for less money than one little electronics upgrade or other small project will cost on a large cruising vessel. If, after all that, you still have a hankering to go cross oceans, and the budget left for it, fill your boots, and you'll likely have a much more sensible and cost-effective approach to it than a novice boater would. It's great that you offer your subscribers the opportunity to join you on deliveries - that sort of experience can really help people understand if sailing is 'for them'...

[@willwalsh7818]

Funny just kind of said the same thing, I should of read the comments, then would of save some time, lol could of just say see note below reference @MegaAmused...

[@ianscott3180]

After many years of sailing smaller boats a friend and myself decided to buy an excharter 50 footer. We had growing families and wanted some space. We bought a sound ex Moorings First 501 in Saint Martin and sailed her back to the UK. We spent a bit of money fitting holding tanks and upgrading sails and rigging. Maybe we were lucky but two families had years of fun both in the UK and the med. Ok, she was worth very little at end, but we got a lot of sea miles for little money. In my seventies now I have gone full circle and day sail on a Contessa26 with my grandson.

[@ianscott3180]

I understand what you mean about wasting time NOT sailing. When I was a youngster I joined a local sailing club and spent many hours being taught to tie knots. I gave up and taught myself in an old clinker gaff sailing/rowing dinghy. Many years later I taught dinghy sailing to kids one summer in Bermuda. What a difference, get them out there, capsize and make it fun. Bon Voyage.

[@carrierserena]

As a delivery Capt. You should do a series on things like easiest to sail, most comfortable, yada yada.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Good point, I will have to give that some thought

[@shroommcfanta2020]

Already doing enough yada yada..

[@sambassil7825]

You’re doing a great job and a great service to everybody by going directly to the point and being frank with everyone who’s interested in sailing.

[@JollyCaptain]

Usefull info. -So refreshing hearing someone telling it like it is.

[@alexandrefrossardnogueira3894]

Odd crafting channel started in Brazil, where EVERYTHING is harder and more expensive, except for labor costs. That being said, their achievement was enourmous.

[@evryhndlestakn]

Maybe you missed his point.

[@mikecrockett3669]

I ate popcorn watching this. I learned it’s hard to shovel popcorn into my face while I’m laughing. I managed it, though! Keep up the good work.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Haha nice

[@pl7868]

Be careful , choking on popcorn sorta sucks

I wonder what you think about 'sailing magic carpet'... They do the same thing, which is buying dumpsters and refitting them. Main difference is, that the guy is actually a boat builder. So they do end up with a sound vessel over a comparatively short timespan (compared to other KZbinrs). They are currently on their second one and seemed to have been sold the first one for a good price. I think its a good example of what it actually takes to do the refitting thing if you are in to that.

[@madprof6719]

That was a proper roasting. Not sure I was meant to be laughing through that! 😂

[@ChasingLatitudes]

🤣🤣

[@framemaker52]

In "fairness" to Atticus, they started with nothing, had to work in Mexico to fund their further sailing, built a KZbin business that enabled them to buy the nice 40-footer, prudently looked past the survey to find and repair structural problems before setting off, got a dog I suspect as a furbaby substitute for the real thing (wise), proceeded cautiously across the Atlantic. They are pretty risk-averse so it's no surprise that offshore sailing with a baby that needs medical supervision lost its appeal. They do tend to make molehills into mountains, inflating the dangers faced and accomplishments achieved, which has gotten old. Lately, wife and I have watched their channel just to confirm our expectation that they will throw in the towel. RV next?

[@TopShelfMontana]

Yeah they don't want to throw in the towel though because then Jordan has to get a real job instead of being a youtube content creator with a fat patreon.

[@neilstewart1277]

Please, they are tripping hard. Nice people but their brand is disaster. Tragic thing to keep on the tracks.🙏

[@Gyp527]

I'm a retired merchant marine captain, and while my wife and I certainly don't want a KZbin channel, or any other job, we love the sail life and see what you're talking about daily. However, we'd never buy some of those boats you touted either, damn sure not a 'bend-a-toe'. We bought an S&S 36 and left the states a few years ago. We wouldn't give up a year or 2 of this to refit or rebuild some wreck.. and we could. We take care of anything and everything as needed. Engine work, elec., solar, fiberglass, etc. The "KZbin sailor" is a direct result of technological advances. 99% of these guys couldn't plot a course or figure set and drift if their screens went dark lol.

[@tomhaney5186]

15 year merchant mariner here as well. Sounds like this wants people to pay him to tell them to buy a fragile fin keel spade rudder retired charter boat. You see the boats he dogs on all over the world. You don't see a lot of the complicted fragile boats he does recomend. Yes it's true that the atlantic is ate up with these clorox bottle charter specials but that's all. I'd hate to have even a minor grounding in one of these.

[@1badsteed]

@@tomhaney5186 what most people want though is a good boat to sail around the Carribean, not cross an ocean. For that, the boats he recommends would fit the bill or no? Thanks for your comments!

[@davidmelius7292]

You are right on! KZbin is hilarious. Love your content. I already lived the bus/homestead life that became trendy after I somewhat moved on to raise a family. Sailor at heart. Just got to do it later in life. Keep up the great content

[@wstadlock]

Yup, I laugh at youtubers that get into boats for the first time in life, start a YT channel, then start giving advice on things they've just learned. As a 62 yr. Mariner I keep seeing the blind attempting to lead the blind

[@outlaw565]

Absolutely smart advice.

[@fitmadefun]

I can't argue against anything you say, but there are different paths. I'm not crossing oceans, but i was able to get sailing for $2k. I bought an islander 30 at an auction with old sails, bad paint and a brand new motor. I've put some money into it but i get to sail and i enjoy working on it. If i were going to do blue water i would probably look at it differently, but for the coastal and offshore cruising that i do, it's worked out pretty well.

[@dingo397]

Been following you from the beginning.... Your spot on with these channels. Odd life spent all that time with a refit only to sail about a year, and then sell. What a waste of time and money. You were brutally honest. I say buy one of the boats you mentioned and maybe add solar and batteries and upgrade the electronics and go sailing.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

crazy right

[@SiggiSwole]

Right about now I am so glad I found your channel.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Me too

[@bruceweber2361]

This was entertaining and informative. I've been watching, "Restoring Josephine", about a British couple who bought a wood sailboat built in 1936. They got screwed by their surveyor and have been working on that boat for years. They did a superb job of restoration, but they'd readily admit that they'd rather have spent that time sailing.

[@reptikind]

Sooo fkn happy I found your videos. I've been looking at nothing but dumpster boats. Thanks for the information! Going to go through the rest of your videos. ✌️

[@ChasingLatitudes]

glad to have you '

[@MHow1900]

Project Atticus announced they are cutting back on sailing, summer sailing only it appears. Question: your thoughts on a nearly 8’ draft? Can it sail the Bahamas for a short amount of time?

[@ChasingLatitudes]

No way, they are cutting back? when did they announce that ? 8 foot draft in Bahamas you will most likely ground at some point unless you stick to just the major entry and exit channels

[@MHow1900]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnbSq56qnM-grcksi=sqS-lEpBS2gaS5P4 It could always be a head fake for views but seem legitimate. If I had given to their go fund me or was a vendor giving them equipment, I would be upset. But I would also be upset if I had to sail on that boat. They looked at several great sailboats in their search and picked that thing. Someday I will get a bigger boat for ocean circumnavigation, currently have a Catalina 22 for lake sailing. Want something in the next 3 yrs, over 60’, mono, basic systems, galley with significant counter space, 3 cabin, comfortable, 200+ mile days.

[@nooneanybodyknows7912]

​@@ChasingLatitudesThis week's video.

[@lavagnolli]

the Odd Craft couple were based in Brazil and the boat market in Brazil is totally different. There are not a lot of options to buy and boats are way more expensive there. From a financial point of view in Brazil, it did made sense to buy that boat. It was actually a great deal there.

[@evryhndlestakn]

I think, like the preceding guy, you may have missed the overall point also.

[@alberciik]

Dude !! I ❤❤❤ your comments. 😂😂 bikini, drama face, cry face, drama face ….. 😂😂. At last some honesty and criticism , be it other KZbinrs, boat producers, boat owners trying to selling you a piece of c…. Love it. Please continue.

[@GaryHardyInc]

Wow! My brother from another mother. Geez! Did you nail Atticus & Evens. Wife and I watch both and scratch our heads... why why why? YT click? I guess it's really that simple. We're 71 yo. Sold the last boat (B411) of five 15 years ago. That was enough.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

You are amazing, thank you so much for the super chat, youre amazing, yeah those channels are train wrecks

[@jasonandrewismail2029]

Love your channel

[@ProfIsmaelGonzalez]

As someone located in PR, can you recommend a sailing and/or boating class in the island?

[@Strngbru]

I really, really like your unvarnished approach to your videos. Give it to me straight, even if there may be some personal bias. My experience is that this approach to anything is valuable, even if maybe there are counter arguments. Please, keep it coming. I'm learning a looooooootttttttttt.

[@airborneranger-ret]

Liked, ,subbbed, ,bought the book :)

[@peoplenewstoday]

Captain Ron was my hero.

[@dennisreeves632]

What do you think about sailing parlay?

[@MICHAELBASILONE]

Where can I take the classes you refer to? Boat electrical systems, marine engine class and so on. Thanks

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Asa usually has online ones you can take

[@woodymike5]

Love your videos!

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Thank you

[@codegame027]

I would love to hear your thoughts on Sailing Zatara ... Why them? well Keith and his friend Chris run a mentorship program that is $3000 a year and I just struggle to see the value there. Every Month they do a "Free workshop". You should sit for one of them. Although Expedition Evans didn't take the wisest choices to get to their goal but I think they are in a pretty good spot now. Brett is going to be building a hardtop this winter he is going to layup himself. At least according to their last video. I'm also curious on your thoughts on SAIL LIFE. Ava and Mads. Mads LOVES the DIY side of boats and loves making content around the DIY stuff too. So it isn't ALL about adventure for them, it is more about the project. Mads does a great job of chronicling his projects. They are currently looking for ~50ft project boat too

[@ChasingLatitudes]

The zatara mentorship thing is a train wreck

[@codegame027]

@@ChasingLatitudes have you interacted with anyone that had enrolled in it or seriously considered it?

[@ChasingLatitudes]

@@codegame027 yes, the entire gist of the class is, buy a 500k catamaran or a very old mono hull and spend 400k outfitting it. On top of that for any type of actual one on one help everything is additional, it's all pre recorded garbage

[@stinkintoad]

I agree with you for the average Joe. But Odd life wouldn't have got the views with a bavaria cruiser. And they are into the build. And they had a retractable keel and rudder. If you Price those boats they are hard to find and Way more than 160k. I dont think Atticus crew hired a capt to cross the atlantic. They had another couple with them. Riley and Elena had that super experienced woman with them when they crossed.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

yeah atticus hired a capt, that was kind of the point of the vid, they do it for the content so dont follow there path unless you are trying to do it for the content

[@stinkintoad]

​@@ChasingLatitudes I would do it without a captain! I bareboat around the bvis every year which is totally different but I'm gaining experience. I currently own an Ericson.

[@tarivard]

Everyone agrees with you regarding the financial ROI based on someone who is buying a boat with no KZbin plan associated with it. The major factor here is that they do not make their money on the boat, but making content for their KZbin channel. They need a fixer up as their subject matter. Sail Life (Mads) rebuilt his boat - I'm sure there is no financial sense in what he did. Their patreons and viewers paid for the boat. There is an audience for them willing to donate. I agree with you about the boat S/V ODD. I would never buy a steel boat as well.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

AGREE

[@gregoryanderson4874]

One thing I noticed often in relation to expenses of sailing the med is that, at some point in the future there are at least two offset considerations. First is in normal over life on the land. There are expensive life food car fuel La La La which offset against the cost of living on the water for food fuel, etc. Of course it’s not exact, but it’s meaningful I suspect The second is a time of selling the boat income is derived, and hopefully enough to mitigate the original purchase price, and so the net cost is really about boat maintenance. And again, living on the land, we pay maintenance for cars refrigerators at that work replacing television and so on and so on sure the cost of different, but still, these offsets soften purchase and lifestyle decision to go with the boat. Yep, there’s not be able to simplistic, but the underline point I think it’s reasonable

[@gregoryanderson4874]

Sorry about the texting, grammar bloopers, but you get basic idea👍🤪

[@ChasingLatitudes]

@@gregoryanderson4874 haha, no worries welcome to my life

[@traderduke1880]

Love the way you analyse the market place and the boats. When I’m ready…Definitely going to reach out to you. Thanks for posting great vids, with common sense and entertainment. 💪🙏

[@mandysheridan4847]

Glad i came across u as soon i hope to be buying next year, was looking into a prout cat but after watching your videos can't decide. My sea experience is just kayaking and just hadn't the time to sail but next year be different and probably have about 100 th euro for something. Live in Ireland and can't believe i have never learned to sail as surround by water 😅. Keep up the good work and can't wait to talk

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment :)

[@svspirit4999]

Great name for a boat: “Blame it on Uma”

[@PlateletRichGel]

You are as funny as honey badger videos.

[@jinitom]

I'm so bored with the sailing/marketing/drama channels that I like the lawn mowing videos better. They are kind of relaxing.

[@evryhndlestakn]

Im not a sailor but find the ocean & shiplife very interesting. I have never seen your channel before either. That was an excellent presentation😁. Straight up good advice, no bullsh*t & definitely no pandering!👍Even a landlubber could recognize good advice when they heard it & to my way of thinking, if I was looking to submerge (duh) myself in yachting & the lifestyle it could provide a person then a personal $100 consult is the equivalent of handing over a cool hundy & in return, receiving the absolute best diamond ring that a Jewelers has in the store. A hundred for, potentially, a $10'000 ring. Maybe many many thousands of dollars more in value than 10k even. The experience your providing, the advice & straight up commonsense approach to maximizing a persons time & value for money makes this the bargain of a lifetime. Jeez, next time Im planning on buying a car, let alone a yacht, & the first thing im going to do is pay the $100 consult fee & ask you to come with me!👍😉 Finally, a breathe of fresh air in a becalmed KZbin sea of mediocrity.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Thanks my man

[@davecopp9356]

👍🤣😂 Maybe the main goal of these people, is to build their channels? There is another one in France, sailing seabird, which bought a boat for 1Euro and are doing a refit now. For some reason, many people seem to like watching people doing a refit of their dumbster. Same with the Channel sailing GBU, they never did a crossing, now they bought a homestead and continue to make videos. For most of them, the goal seems to be to build a business and make money from their channel and subscribers, and not so much to sail around the world. Basically the attention economy. They would buy a three legged dog if that would get them the attention and views. Please make a video about the channel Spear it Animal. They are one of the worst and just started.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

I agree, I will look at spear it animal

[@ChasingLatitudes]

I agree, sailing gbu new venture is far more appealing in my opinion@@larkangel6593

[@davecopp9356]

@@larkangel6593 Free Range Sailing did the same thing as GBU, only a few months earlier. Now they call themselfes Free Range living and live on a homestead. They will hopp on whatever concept to capture attention, views and donations and I admit that I am jealous of their way of living. LOL I would like to live their way but without the need for making YT-Videos and accepting donations. As I mentioned, whatever catches the attention and can be monitized will be used. In most cases it is not about the thing that they do, that keeps them afload, but the concept of marketing it as entertainment to a large audience to make an income this way.

[@nickkanakis6776]

Greets from Greece and Happy New Year. Would like to know why you consider "Spear it Animal " as one of the worst up and coming channels? Thanks in advance.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

@@nickkanakis6776 Its not that I think anything is wrong with them, its just the typical KZbin sailing vlogger is all

[@MacCreedy-p7u]

Biggest flaw in your theory is that you just can't go "Hey KZbin viewers, please give me a lot of money upfront to buy a great boat." It might just be a process to get up to a working ship.

[@paperlanterns34]

As a Cap, being asked or seeing some of these vessel's is scary that there even on the water. The people and the vessel, anyway great content keep it coming

[@joaopnmarques]

What this gentleman is forgetting to mention ( don’t forget he makes money with consulting and sales comissions…) is that all this channels didn’t had 200k or whatever. They payed half of it With the KZbin channel and refit views. So they have a lot of equity at the end of the refit. I don’t think this public laundry was needed just to end the video selling you consulting … but hey.. one makes money doing how to video , another makes it using the first one and talking sh*t. Did it inspire confidence? Don’t know about you but… meh

[@edutainment9235]

I appreciate your success and charisma, and I find joy in the success of those who bravely pursue their dreams and share their experiences, even when they face criticism. While I recognize that negative critiques can be a part of the human experience and sometimes even profitable. For me, your constructive feedback was beneficial and the shade thrown seemed below you. Your assessment skills are excellent, and focusing on those could be more effective than speaking negatively about good humans who made bad decisions.

[@evryhndlestakn]

Or not.

[@vvm101]

Thank you for objective common sense !

[@alexbojanic7363]

Great job with this analysis but I would comment that it would be more fair to show what you can buy for $50,000 than $160,000. I didn’t watch this couple channel but I am almost certain they didn’t have $165,000 5y ago to buy the vessel (hence they bought this wreck for $50k). They have been retrofitting this boat over a couple years which probably means they have been spending as they were earning money. My guess anyway.

[@evryhndlestakn]

Im fairly sure he knew what they were doing, preceding & post.

[@pavelavietor1]

I WANT TO BUY A SAIL BOAT BUT I DONT NKOW WHAT I NEED TO GET OR HOW TO FIND IT

[@allanfifield8256]

Sailing Project Atticus: "Buddy", blubbers on command . . . To be fair, she is always seasick.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Fair

[@rm-61366]

Steel is not necessarily heavier than other materials for hull structure depending on the application. Usually around 150 feet or so is the length when steel becomes the material of choice due to loading and price. But if the application is to be a moderately heavy boat, then steel can be effective because hull structure is a smaller fraction of the overall displacement. Also, weight is not the only driver for speed. In most coditions that boats actually sail in, sail area to wetted surface ratio is more a driver than displacement. Look at Ted Hood heavy displacement boats. They are heavy, but low in wetted surface, so for well accommodated boats, the Hoods sail very well in lighter airs when the new fat assed generation of cruisers can't sail because they have too much wetted surface.

[@jumpyX2]

whats the url of the ex charter boats for sale?

[@hectorprx]

Thanks, for the insight. You kill me, nothing like the unvarnished truth.

[@jonunya3128]

wow are you rude.

[@peterreichert5716]

He´s champion in insulting talk about others. So because alone of that I can´t respect him and his point of view. ( Finding modern "fat ass bathtubs" "sexy" also must not be everyone's choice. - Or is he maybe sponsored by the charter-yacht brokers !? )

[@Eddybarrett84]

GREAT ADVICE! 😂”Don’t plan on hitting iceberg “

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Words to live by

[@PeteGerard-p2f]

I understand you downgrade others to market yourself and your services. That's a bit of a sick game to play but it's your choice. Regarding the KZbinrs for the yacht "Odd" to compare what they did to buying a $165,000 sailing boat right off the bat is obviously not relevant as it's a fair bet they didn't have that money in the beginning. They probably borrowed the majority of the $50k to buy the original wreck then used KZbin to inspire people to donate to their project. So I'd suggest the vast majority of the $120,000 came from donations, sponsorships, affiliate and add revenues. At the end of the day they earned $165,000 in their pocket and now have a choice to either play the game again on a new bigger and more valued project or a deposit on a house and start their "normal" life or go to a casino and blow it all on a stupid weekend. It's their choice. While the thought of inexperienced people doing yacht rebuilds and taking off to sail around the world is highly risky to down right dangerous to themselves and more importantly to the people who's job it is to rescue these inexperienced beginners when they inevitably get into serious trouble. The bottom line is, it is their choice, they did it, they stuck with it and completed it. So by all measures they were successful. It's easy to be a critic, much harder to create something. As can be seen here, it took them years and an extreme amount of commitment and work to complete the project. You on the other hand only took minutes to degrade their efforts.

[@carlray7224]

Agree 'User'. Your comment " it's a fair bet they didn't have that money in the beginning " about sums up the situation. Unfortunately old mate conveniently overlooks this critical aspect when highlighting his preferred boats which in turn sees his assertion that the financial decision is a poor one is based on floored logic - they just didn't have the $200k or whatever to spend. So his you beaut flash as boats are totally irrelevant to the discussion. Case of never let the facts get in the way of a good story. On a positive note I get a laugh out of his frequent reference to trashcans and dumpsters as his primary boat description😂 And yes he got a thumbs up from me.

[@evryhndlestakn]

🥱

[@murphyrp01]

Too right. I have been watching a channel @sailingmereweather and they are doing just this. I expect they have rich parents. Crying out for patreons to fund them. They are in a boat yard now but not before motoring to Malaysia. Doing a Mayday call and wondering why 911 doesn’t work in that part of the world. Just a car crash of a channel. Their boat is worse than any you have shown

[@roberts8783]

do you own a yacht? what model is it

[@sunreallife5048]

Well that was an abrupt ending 😂

[@ChasingLatitudes]

sorry about that

[@FreeRadicalslifestyle]

@chasinglatitudes The questioning of the ethics and diminished voracity of the truth in some of the KZbin channels is something that I think you have done well to bring attention to ... especially in light of the possible consequences that could be incurred by unsuspecting pundits that have taken the sailing channels you mentioned to be a realistic version of boat life adventure. The KZbinr's sailing channel dream is about getting someone else to pay for their lifestyle while creating a tribe of their own, which is well known in Internet parlance as the "thousand true fans" who are required to consume your content so you can earn a living. It's NOT a how-to of the best way to go SAILING. The tough pill to swallow is the number of "followers" or "patrons" that gush on about the very thing they are paying for, which is sometimes low-value entertainment. Unfortunately, I see this done poorly with cringe-worthy audio, mindless drone shots and, as you so eloquently point out, cry face and bikini shots. As well as the tug on the heartstrings cry's for help as their inexperience or lack of actually generating a viable income bites them in the arse Hey, don't get me wrong, I tune into the channels you mention and others for ENTERTAINMENT and if they, as CONTENT PRODUCERS, have managed to convince people to fund their dream of resurrecting dumpster fire boats ( as you call them ) Because that's the only way they are going to get on the water; all power to them As someone who understands the effort and time to film, edit and upload videos, I do not devalue the expertise and time it takes to commit to a video publishing schedule in the hope of earning a few coins to keep the dream alive. I enjoy watching some of the channels you have mentioned. Would I financially contribute to them? No, and if they can ethically feel okay about the ENTERTAINMENT content they are putting out to fund their lifestyles, kudos to them for creating an excellent gig and being able to go sailing on someone else's dime.

[@davidji2030]

I think refitting is only worth it if the boat/car is an old classic or rare boat that can achieve collectible status, and the reason to refit is not to save money, but it’s because you really love that specific boat and you are passionate about it

[@zackwright827]

Hum. Seems you have figured it all out looking at thumbnails while sitting behind your monitor sipping on a diet coke and eating cheetos. Most of your videos seem geared towards pointing out others failures (even if the ultimately aren't). Pretty sad. Haters gonna hate but im not gonna watch.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Sure bud

[@evryhndlestakn]

Need a hug before you go? 🥲

[@ISOSAILING]

a couple off years seems nothing when you see how long it's taken to re buid tallyho haha 7 years now and there stil going!! although the differance is thats a boat thats on another level!! that was toataly worth saving, you do make some good solid points, the only people sailing around the world video channal i really follow is sail into the sunset as i use to sail with them and saved all there life's to do it and could actualy sail before they decided to do it!! i'd quite happy get a fixer upper to work on but i guess it's because i have built things all my life, and been sailing all my life and can go sailing prity much when i want all i have to do is go down the harbour at the weekend when peope are going out witch is a good way to learn too as you'll find a lot off people are always looking for crew!!

[@EsotericNY]

Very much enjoyed your "tell it like it is" approach. Very NYC and more need to hear this. In a few cases, I was thinking more like 'Ugh, dumpster fire.' }:-\

[@lancerains4185]

I think every sailor should restore at least one boat it opens up windows and doors and creates a unique perspective....

[@Gardureth]

I would really love a sailboat, with myhealth i need a furling mainsail though. My biggest fear is to buy a boat that has the worst setup and sailing behavior. Could you learn us what a good boat means? You mentioned a beam thats too short for the lenghth of the boat, thats super usefull to know!

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Fractional rig sloop with in mast furling would be the perfect option for someone with any health issues as they are by far the easiest to sail

My wife and I where so happy with a in mast furling. Never any discussions over reefing because in a few seconds the reef was out or in again.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

@ Super nice right

[@kenamick]

Just curious, what is a Finacial Disaster?

[@jacobuszwanenburg1629]

A boat Break Out Another Thousand $$$

[@SALFXEF]

I agree with everything that you said and with all the people that you've mentioned I remember saying to myself what a waste of time. People like boat repair videos they did it for the clicks

[@zvone9035]

This guy is so funny😂 love it

[@adamondrejack5970]

Like I want a boat in CROATIA... let alone a completely unequipped charter boat.

[@1badsteed]

Elan?

[@evryhndlestakn]

Then you shouldn't get an unequipped, ex-charter boat that's in Croatia. That would be my advice. If YOU don't like the advice then don't follow it. It all seems so basic really.

[@lovemvn6283]

Love your videos, man. I’d be curious to hear your opinion on Sam Holmes Sailing. I enjoy his videos. No fluff or anything like that. He literally sails everywhere on an older boat too. Love to hear your thoughts!

[@ChasingLatitudes]

@@lovemvn6283 I interviewed him, it's some where in one of my kids, he's cool

[@lorentosi]

I would like your opinion on " Sailing Yaba" please!

[@ChasingLatitudes]

@@lorentosi I have never watched a video of theirs,

[@thetruckersmanifesto3873]

I rebuilt houses and could probably swing granite counters and a fridge with a little dent in it, I've always just shit in the ocean so restroom, for me not necessarily needed but I could swing it.

[@UTrockman4freedom]

I watch you for your comments. ❤🎉😂

[@ChasingLatitudes]

The comments are gold

[@Constantine-yp1dl]

Great video. I would love to see your analysis of "Bums on Boats".

[@SailingPauHana]

KZbin makes it look like anyone can do it....ABSOLUTELY FALSE!! We just spend months in the boatyard doing DIY, and it was still expensive. Yeah, we saved tens of thousands of dollars, but it was still expensive, and there are still things we'd like to do (just not in the budget). Watch youtube sailing channels for entertainment, not for a HOW TO (except chasing latitude) 😊😊

[@ChasingLatitudes]

yeah

[@mikenagy938]

So you bring up a good point here and the reason i just try not to watch those sailing videos anymore. I'm just back from Mexico and 35,000 nm of sailing, and learned a thing or two. But these people all make the same mistakes over and over, mistakes that could have been avoided if they had read Roth, Kritchmer, or even the Pardys. They show pictures of the woman in a thong bikini, and show a few of sailing, but never the nitty gritty of sailing. Just my 2 cents worth...

[@veryrudeguy]

I saw Adventureman Dan interviewing some gal in Dominican Republic with boat Artha or something.. At least she has a back story why she bought that old thing.. But yeah.. Buying an ancient boat for 20k and spending another 24k over a year and it's not even close to being finished?! Hell no thanks

[@ChasingLatitudes]

It's rough

[@jasonandrewismail2029]

How do you know so much?

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Ive sailed over 200,000 nm, met most these clowns throughout my sailing, they are all selling nonsense in my opinion

[@jasonandrewismail2029]

@@ChasingLatitudes wow. I think their channels do more harm than good. I am Irish, but now living in Brazil. I am looking to buy a hc 16 to sail in Brazil from a place called ubatuba to a place called paraty. It's like the Caribbean with around 700 islands, I concluded that the hc 16 would be enough for me. Sail and camping from one beach to the other. Problem here is very small community of power boats and tiny of sail boats. There only around 30 k boats in Brazil, can you believe how under developed the market is here. By the way happy new year

[@sausage5849]

Just ask "Old Sea Dog" how he feels about steel boats.

[@wayneanderson1641]

Project Atiicus, a nice middle-aged bought a Rollie Polly antique design sailboat. The wife got pregnant and was seasick 24 hours a day and he made the brilliant decision to cross the ocean at time. I wonder why the child was born with medical problems? I bet he wishes he could do that over. They seem like good parents.

[@johnq.public2621]

😃👍👏👏👏

[@ericdelevinquiere9902]

It’s all about relatable, I guess it pays more to connect with naïve individuals ( plenty of those) than experienced ones when you are seeking ratings.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

agree, I tried to point that out, the goal of those channels is views and that's great for them but to follow them to the path to sailboat ownership is a disaster

[@briancall5794]

Absolute truth you spend most of your time island jumping. No need for that boat.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

true

[@marcanthony356]

The common thread is simple: These guys do not have the funds to buy a boat that match their ambitions. So, they buy a fixer-upper that becomes the focal point of their KZbin and Patreon channels they use to supplement their initial financial shortfall. The answer is simple: aim lower, live within your means and go sailing. While the financial journey is pretty standard, so are the stories. This may have been attractive while people were confined. It is changing now and fast, and many will have to quit.

[@passionfounder]

Agree with many things said but there is some commercial incentive in creating a KZbin channel … rather than just looking at the cost of the vessel. Sponsorship, donations, viewings … I guess some of them made as much money again just by doing it that way and with cash keeping coming from the channel for years to come.

[@martinrenovales1955]

Just in case you guys didn’t realized this channel is sponsored and pushed by the company that owns all of the modern sailing boats. Boats (Specially old ones) are built to last 100+ years and this is not good for boat builders. The whole purpose of this Chanel is discouraging viewers to purchase old boats to keep their boat manufacturing business profitable. Every single video of this channel is about “don’t buy old, buy new” with cero honesty , commitment and love for sailing. This particular video is the pinnacle of disrespect exposing sailors who create content in a much more honest and ethical approach. There are tons of shitty click bait stupid sailing channels but this is diferent . This is dirty play at the highest level. Shame on them

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Did you drink touch today ? You seem a bit delusional

[@martinrenovales1955]

@@ChasingLatitudes congratulations for having the audacity to even reply. I’m not surprized.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

@@martinrenovales1955 well when you make silly accusations expect silly responses. I'm a delivery capt, you legit think every modern boat manufacturer hired me , to make KZbin videos for years just to bad mouth older boats? lol just ask any one of my clients how absurd that sounds that's hilarious, drugs are bad dude

[@sailorinfl]

I certainly don't want to have a "finacial" disaster, as it says on the thumbnail image.

[@TheMrplunk]

"Now you know your boat" but have no idea if it backs up straight... Or any idea how it sails...

[@TheExumRidge]

People underestimate boat complexity. They are not prepared for maintaining a small city basically. I enjoy it personally, nothing like a good puzzle.

[@ahoneyman]

If you want to learn about diesels Univeral diesels are basically Kubotas. Any farm auction will have those cheap. Yanmars are a bit harder to source though. Ebay maybe? Gotta be some from sunken boats or hurricane damage. Kubotas are kinda fun.

[@svevergreen3370]

I agree with the first couple of channels you pick on. But when it comes to Atticus sorry mate but you cannot compare a Pacific Seacraft with a beneteau production boat. Just apples to oranges. I think you probably should have picked their first boat which was more to your point of picking up an ill equipped boat and dumping a ton of time and effort ... the pacific seacraft is a strong boat that will always keep its value unlike the previous boats you covered which I agree are crap.

[@STRACHU100]

actualy I heard of a guy who crossed the North- West passage on a 30 yo boat...

[@Alans-channel]

Some PPL picking on others to get clicks otherTraveling around the world working hard for they're dreams. Even if you keep saying you're not picking... you're trying to make helpful content. You do nothing else but picking on other KZbinrs cuting of they're peace of the cake. While missing the point. This young couple does something else every couple years because you can't keep renovating your tiny house for 20years it's obviously a business model. Talking trash will work in 30 years too without any afford.....

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Someone has never seen my content clearly considering 4 of 600 videos calls it other KZbinrs lol , nice try

[@Alans-channel]

@@ChasingLatitudes ? Why would I? I started 2 of your videos and hate your arrogance. So wheres the point watching more of it?

[@ChasingLatitudes]

@@Alans-channel don't watch makes no difference to me, just don't assume what the content is

[@Alans-channel]

@@ChasingLatitudes I'm a grown up man. I can do what ever I want. We all have the same problem the voices in our head's always agree with what we say....... By the way your valuable seems not be so valuable if you have enough of it to answering every single post. Others spending that time restoring a trashcan that nobody else would ever touch....as you use to say. Last word for today 🥱😉

[@ChasingLatitudes]

@@Alans-channel you sound closer to a child than an adult. You are no "man" men don't comment foolish assumptions on KZbin , children do. Why do I respond to every comment on KZbin? It increases the algorithm , not like you'd know anything about that as your to busy having a parasocial relationship with vloggers

[@willwalsh7818]

It is my assumption that, for the first two boats that you assessed, those boat owners were only interested in one thing, and that was to live for free, less the amount (not going to go here) that they paid for the boat in the beginning. There lives, or whatever are, for what I care, not worth my comment, nor time. My first boat was a 1912 Snipe, 17' Oak (tank) which I named "Bail Oar Die", Second McVay Victoria 18, "Princess", where I stated to travel with, and now own an Alberg 22 which as of yet named, but possibly "Joy Division". When you own a boat, I assumed, and learned there will always will be maintenance. If not done, and properly, regress back to my first boat, and her name. Secondly when buying a second hand boat, my first rule of thumb is never to buy a boat that is not in the water, and must consider the maintenance that is going to be required yearly. Ideally the boat that you are possibly buying should be, for the first year, (one would hope) maintenance free. I could go on, about equipping ones boat to fit its needs, for example day sailor, short weekend jaunts, racing, & finally, go big, or stay home, plus yearly maintenance, etc., etc., I guess my end point, and not wanting to turn this into a book... I could sell you my boat for a Dollar, but everything that goes into it will cost you $10 times X^5... I am looking for the proper size boat now to actually get away from North Eastern Canada, hence my interest on your views, and in joining Chasing Latitudes. Appreciated your thoughts, on what was my first viewing of such matters via You tube. Thought it was just good for Music, ha ha. Cheers, and keep up the good work. Well done and thanks for the time. Waves are not measured in feet, nor Inches, but in increments of fear.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Fantastic well thought out response, thank you for watching and taking the time to comment

[@swimcat2333]

Unreal people can get that can of $$ for these older boats. My town has plenty of these-- I love sailing but am sitting at my house instead of buying any of these

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Agree

[@Suchev-n3h]

Got to give it to them. Thats perseverance and as we all know failure can handle persistence. Carry on.

[@Motoracer-zx10er]

He is jealous of “Lady K” sailing…he has an attitude only available to the internet.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

I'm jealous of lady k ? Is that a joke, I live on a tropical island on the beach , I sail on average about 20,000 nm a year, I am a delivery captain, not a KZbin vlogger. Lady k lives in the freezing north , does lake sailing on a trash can of a boat, what in the world would I be jealous of that clown 🤡 for , get real

[@evryhndlestakn]

​@@ChasingLatitudesgoes to show, you simply cannot help some people. They are the "comments" page equivalent of "No good deed goes unpunished". Apparently you're meant to point out where they made mistakes, where they could have made better choices yet you have to also contradict yourself & say that they have done so well & they are all great examples to follow🤨, & It doesn't matter what anyone's comment actually says just so long as everybody that posts gets a gold star😃, lol. "those other channel's might be all fake drama but at least they're never mean!"🤣🤣🤣😏🫢😁😆🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@BryanBear5050]

@@evryhndlestakn Did someone's feelings get hurt? I do not know this guy but he has helped me. I have no experience and thinking about just living on a small sailboat in a marina because it is cheaper than owning a 1865 square foot house as a single 46 year old guy. And there is a difference between being mean and showing the mistakes others have made. KZbin in general is fake. There is no governing body to verify the information on any subject.

[@firstnamelastname9013]

👏👏👍👍❤❤

[@isaacstrade9358]

Ya but but the experience and memories that’s priceless haha or wait that’s a limited resource f that working hard to brake even if even

[@sailing_mahalo]

Spot on-> bikinis and drama... And months on the boatyard.