Top 10 SEGA Dreamcast Games! The Great YoVideogames Debate!

[@georgekitchen7046]

Max defending Shenmue by mentioning my fan game is wild. Still can't believe he played it.. This also gives me ideas for this years update in my golf mini game. 🤔

[@finalout9305]

Shenmue is still one of my favorites. Yes it hasn't aged well but I have a lot of found memories of it. Specifically the final fight. My brothers and I would do a no hit challenge and just spent all day taking turns till I finally did it.

[@georgekitchen7046]

@@finalout9305 I find it's aged just fine for those of us who enjoy deliberately paced games. Sometimes we are condescended to by those who prefer faster paced games as being disingenuous when we say we enjoy the pace, but that's just how we are built. Going back to old games is like seeing a childhood friend, but going back to Shenmue is like driving through your old neighborhood, except it hasn't changed a bit, vs the almost hollow feeling I get when driving back through my old neighborhood, because no one is there from when I grew up.

[@VeilOfKarma]

@@georgekitchen7046 👏👏 well said. People wonder why I love retro games so much over all these new games and really thinking about it, it just takes me back to a happier time where everything in my life was more carefree, didn't have to do adult things and could just really have fun with some really great games. It truly is a good friend or a childhood neighborhood 🥹🥹

[@matheuslara1670]

Make more like this. Top10 SNES, Top10 PS1, etc. I love retro videogame discussion, you learn new things from it.

[@faceurhell]

SNES is hard because if you factor i Super Famicom, Dragon Quest V is a must have for example.

[@lorenzosandoval7328]

As much as I hate Xbox, I’d love to see them do the original Xbox considering how many weird games they had

[@nekosabrina2266]

47:00 Notice how when Max makes the tough decision that he'd take CvS2 off the list, the music in the background STOPS (to be fair, it was technically between tracks, but the timing of the moment is still uncanny)

[@judahbestyt]

This shit was a motion picture lmao

[@ramonmercedes8593]

Jet, set being off that list is Blasphemy

[@lorenzosandoval7328]

That game aged like balls man if they do a top 10 original Xbox games tho then I would absolutely say Future should make top 5

[@Helvetica_Scenario]

I know, and for a tennis game.

[@vidk1dd96]

I love Jet Set Radio, but its controls were too clunky to warrant a justify a top 10 spot for it.

[@pandaman5OOO]

It is unforgivable!

[@miguelgomes6849]

skies of arcadia deserves a remake, amazing game

[@ThomastheDankEngine8900]

Sure does

[@Sonicfalcon16]

I wish it got ported to anything

[@ShadowW0lf1]

This video is unlocking some core memories of video game debates amongst friends when I was younger.

[@mario_maniac9368]

I'm right there with you on skies, Simmons. It sucks to the only rpg fan in the group of friends

[@therealnc4090]

Nah no SA2 is insane, this is the game that really sold people on the modern sonic franchise and 2 heavy fan favorite characters of the series.

[@SoDamnGangsta]

The first one was better

[@Howl9000]

Love seeing the doods debate & clash over opinions, even if the only defence for some opinions were "But the VIBES!"

[@BoyBlaze2002]

I tried to make a top 10 list back in 2009, but it was dominated by fighters. Seeing as though the Sega Dreamcast has an abundance of fighting games I had to do a whole separate list as a result. That was top 10 Sega Dreamcast games with the omission of fighting games, then a top 10 Dreamcast fighting games.

[@rchoung34]

It's a shame Steve wasn't around for this. Would've been even funnier with all the defending/bashing of the games. Also it's a shame that Kenny had zero clue how to play the knuckles level because that was just a one two punch for chat to go insane and Simmons to hate on SA2 even more lmao

[@Sonicfalcon16]

To be fair Kenny hasn't played it in 20 years which is for and against kenny

[@GunstarHero21]

Max's scream when Space Channel 5 was selected to be eliminated was great lol

[@pfromdapab]

Did they really not mention Cannon Spike at all!? Wow.

[@mjjmedia12]

I completely missed out on the Dreamcast and all of those games. But this debate brought goodness to my gaming soul

[@illmosity]

Love these types of video discussions from you guys 🤝🏽

[@r3trogam3rstudios83]

This is old school yo videogames.... Max and gang are the best!

[@ChewyLocos210]

I'm digging Kenny's Street Fighter Hawaiian shirt. 👌

[@f5rhawk]

I argue that I agreed with max and Kenny’s prospective then Simmons. Simmons believes on replay value to where you can play it now. But max/Kenny believes on the impact of a game on the console of its time. You have to be there when it was out. It’s like Shadow of the Colossus on the PS2 for example. Or RE4 on the GameCube. It’s a genre defining game of its time but I argue it doesn’t count on other console like SotC on the ps4 or RE4 on every other console.

[@FattoCattoGo]

Cannon Spike was fire and should have made the list

[@StreetfighterTips]

It's a gem

[@emanuelealfieri9]

wow, totally forgot about that. that was a weird ass game.

[@fintan9218]

it was difficult and the controls took time to adjust to, it is a good game though. I remember struggling to beat it on easy

[@hpesojogladih9782]

Shenmue Shenmue 2 Sonic Adventure 2 House of the Dead 2 Sonic Adventure Sword of the Berserk: Guts Rage Crazy Taxi Dead or Alive 2 Soul Calibur Sky of Arcadia For me 👍🏻.

[@marcushamner5994]

Skies of Arcadia is underrated. I’m glad they appeared in the Sonic/ Mega Man Worlds Unite crossover!🤓😊👊🏾🤍💙

[@ZeniusFox]

I got Skies of Arcadia and Shenmue for Christmas (2000). I was highly anticipating SOA and immediately fell in love with it. When I popped in Shenmue, I thought it was the most boring experience imaginable. Popped back in SOA and never went back Shenmue.

[@aarongaray2595]

@ZeniusFox exactly which I see why Simmons was fighting to kick shenmue off the top 10 list. Shenmue feels like a top 20 or 30 game for the Dreamcast not top 10.

[@finalout9305]

Shenmue did start slow, but I think it was about an hour or so in you get to do so much stuff around the city, and the fighting system was heavily based on Vitrua Fighter. The further in the game you went the more skills and combos you unlocked but that's if you prioritized training during the day over going to the arcade or trying to continue the story. The fights start as a 1v1 and the final battle is like a 15 min survival mode. While played out now, the QTE's kept you on your toes and they were not all a succeed or game over. There is a reason that Yakuza is considered a spiritual successor to Shenmue as it has an almost identical gameplay loop to its predecessor.

[@DyeSueKey]

Now we need to do this for all other systems :D

[@kaiganardea9275]

The timeline where dreamcast won the console wars has world peace by now

[@BeardedFreakGaming82]

All my friends were on the ps bandwagon back in the day but one of them just loved watching me play Shenmue. There was nothing else like it.

[@leeokami22]

Obviously to each their own but I loved Shenmue, ended up living in Japan for a couple of years and a small part of me felt it was because of Shenmue I took that leap. Maybe it was my teenage brain shocked you could do so much and the fighting system was basically virtua fighter but man Simmons got heated like he was the one wronged by Lan di

[@sergioq.6976]

My TOP: - Under Defeat - Mars Matrix - Border Down - Headhunter - Code Veronica - MDK 2 - Virtua Tennis 1&2 - Shenmue 1&2 - PSO Vers.2 - Ferrari F355 Challenge - Skies of Arcadia - Record Of Lodoss War - Crazy Taxi 1&2 - Test Drive Le Mans - Daytona Usa 2001 - Ultimate Fighting Championship - Metropolis Street Racer - Grandia 2 - Capcom vs Snk 2 - Garou Mark Of The Wolves - SF3: 3rd Strike - Soul Calibur - Dead Or Alive 2 - Zombie Revenge - The House Of The Dead 2 - Sonic Adventure 1&2

[@burnsyboy2007]

Headhunter was f'n awesome. Not many people mention this game unfortunately 😔

[@Emuney12]

I never grew up with a Dreamcast, but I am quite impressed with how many bangers were released within a 2 year lifespan.

[@aegisreflector1239]

Still my favorite console of all time

[@megamawile8540]

DOA2 , MvC2, and Soul Cal is all I need. Crazy Taxi and Gauntlet were my -Chill out today- games.

[@omegasonicman97]

Jet Set Radio Sonic Adventure 2 Shenmue 1 Shenmue 2 Crazy Taxi MVC2 NFL BLIZ Dynamite Cop Sonic Adventure 1 Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike My top 10😁

[@Spumbo]

Over an HOUR long...? Oh this is gonna be good...

[@VeilOfKarma]

PSO has to be #1. Full respect to Soul Caliber because it was the first game that got me into actually wanting to play fighting games, but PSO was MONUMENTAL in video games. Such a massive amount of people ON CONSOLE, connecting and playing online with each other day in day out in a game that I think still holds up to a point as an all timer loot driven rpg

[@jonzo99]

Agreed! Still play PSO to this day, my favorite game of all time.

[@VeilOfKarma]

@@jonzo99 it's definitely near the tiptop. GC version with split screen and offline made it a forever game 🙌 I've been playing it recently on my Steam Deck

[@jonzo99]

@@VeilOfKarma modded my Switch recently so I can play PSO GC on the move, still have my GC character data from 2003 so I've been able to continue with my old save. I've had various characters over the years level 150+ on DC,GC, Xbox and PC with PSOBB I don't think i'll ever stop playing this game. Considering a Steam Deck just for emu purposes (Emudeck) and PSOBB on ephinea will probably something I end up installing on it too.

[@Til_thesmokeclrz]

Whats pso?

[@VeilOfKarma]

@@Til_thesmokeclrz phantasy Star Online

[@Gonzo_Neo]

Toy Commander. An underrated Launch Game. Super fun, challenge and the house interaction was amazing.

[@NinjaxShadowXx]

No Resident Evil game like RE2 or Street Fighter 3rd Strike being excluded is crazy

[@stephenperry7385]

Kenny fuckin randomly busting out dance moves is killin me 😂😂

[@steezybeatz]

The problem is Simmons made it a “What compares to modern games/What I play the most right now” list rather than a “What games do you think about when you hear the name Sega Dreamcast” list.

[@fintan9218]

eh I agree that what games stand up and can still be enjoyed should be a factor. Some games back then just had great marketing, or something about the graphics just put some games above other better games.

[@ThePlKLE]

Dude I've never heard anyone mention body harvest before. I was starting to think i had the only copy ever made

[@michaelcervantes4865]

If Steve was there, the debate would have been 2 hours long.

[@fintan9218]

Cannon Spike is so underrated, its maybe not top ten(it is close and possibly would make it for me) but its a gem of a game that for some reason people completely overlook despite being an interesting unique capcom game with well known characters.

[@gajiruterrey1566]

Wackey races for the dreamscast was so good

[@therealfodder]

Man...makes you realise there were more great games than actual gamers on the DC

[@SquidJoe]

The Top 5 is perfect. DOA2; MVC2; Crazy Taxy; Soul Calibur & PSO are literally a league on their own.

[@redcoffeemug7537]

It's hard to have a debate when the parameters for "best dreamcast games" isn't really set in stone before making the list itself. Like is it, most sold? most genre defining? most fun when it released? most fun when played now? does it need to be dreamcast exclusive? but do arcade game ports still count then? do later improved ports exist? does that matter? etc.. etc... The most important criteria to me tho "is it still fun to play RIGHT NOW". which means i'm super against Shenmue being included in the top 10 XD

[@TB_m3x1c4n]

i absolutely love this series. But the biggest problem with their top 10's is that they try to take into account impact and influence, instead of JUST how good the game itself is. Which a top 10 list should be. The list would be insanely different.

[@kornsin]

Just letting Rush 2049's intro of the CPU annihilating each other keep running is so much fun. It gets more chaotic with time. That aside, PSO, MVC2, Unreal Tournament, Last Blade 2, NHL, JSR, Shenmue (same argument my two friends and I have had for ever, I lean towards the idea of scope and scale), SVC2, Crazy Taxi, Power Stone and fuck yes for Virtua Tennis. My friends and I had BATTLES on that game.

[@stucatz511]

I need that SF shirt so bad 🔥🔥🔥

[@ReSF91]

My favorite top 10 by order: 1. Phantasy Star Online 2. Sonic Adventure 2 3. Power Stone 2 4. Capcom vs SNK 1 5. Skyes of Arcadia 6. Evolution 1&2 7. Shenmue 2 8. Spawn in the demon's hand 9. Rayman 2 10. Crazy Taxi 2 How about you guys?

[@danhectic5629]

no order: MDK 2 Soul Reaver Soul Calibur Cannon Spike Illbleed Shenmue Metropolis Street Racer Jet Set Radio Toy Commander Sonic Adventure Skies of Arcadia

[@むうむう牛チャン]

Sonic adventure 2 Illbleed Blue stinger Code Veronica Time stalkers Evolution 1 and 2 Phantasy star online Ikaruga Mdk2 Fur fighters DoA2 Jet set radio Dreamcast games had such a vibe to them, I downloaded most of mine and burned them to CDs. But buying games on clearance from videostores are some of my fav memories

[@BigTasty5599]

I'm as old as the Dreamcast and I wish I would've had the opportunity to experience this system in its prime. My dad would've been in his early 20s when the Dreamcast dropped, and he always tells me how blown away he was by the console. He says to this day that it was one of his favorite consoles of all time.

[@C4Andvari]

Sonic Adventure 2 will always be my top 10 Dreamcast games. Also no Dynamite Cop!?

[@seanwhitman4365]

Kenny needs to be a voice actor

[@The007JiMHD]

Loved both Virtua Tennis and Mario Tennis. But i still remember people at the time, specially casuals, adapting super quick to the arcade gameplay on VT and having issues understanding the gimmicks on MT. VT was super popular worldwide outside US and even saw the game a lot in Lan parties. But i feeled that VT repeated the formula on their secuels and MT improuved over time.

[@sufamidan1006]

Kenny, the shirt … please, share its source? 😊

[@dragons_hook]

Im surprised JSR didnt do that great. Soo much fun!

[@levijustice6742]

Love you guys and I'm glad Simmons fought tooth and nail for it but Skies of Arcadia at number 9 is a crime against humanity. Lol. Literally one of the all time best JRPG's. Top 5 no doubt and more likely top 3 easily. Robbed.

[@lewisgrant7622]

I can’t wait til they get to like ps2, original Xbox, GameCube, n64, gba (if they do handhelds as well) those lists are gonna an absolute bloodbath and a warzone

[@spoogtastic]

Project justice is my personal #1. That game for me could be the only game you get for a Dreamcast and it be entirely worth it to own the console.

[@luxerhusku2609]

I know it's their list, but what in God's name does Simmons have against Sonic Adventure 2? Did the Mech and Hunting level really affect the pacing of the games? Because they never felt like a slog to me. Says the controls and the camera sucks, but again, I absolutely had no issues with them. The game is easily Top 10 Dreamcast material, heck, even Top 3.

[@むうむう牛チャン]

Time Stalkers doesn't get wnough love, it used the vmu so well.

[@TheRADRAD]

42:07 nope. Preserving that soul crushing roar from Max.

[@popculturepausescreen1522]

Tell them Simmons! Skies is amazing!

[@BasedDoomSlayer]

Here are my personal top 9 Dreamcast games of all time (in no particular order): 1. HOUSE OF THE DEAD 2 2. CONFIDENTIAL MISSION 3. VIRTUA COP 2 4. SILENT SCOPE 5. DEATH CRIMSON 2 6. DEATH CRIMSON OX 7. QUAKE 3 ARENA 8. UNREAL TOURNAMENT 9. SOLDIER OF FORTUNE

[@Landmasters]

Before watching 1. Sonic Adventure (Going from Banjo Kazooie to this game graphically was mind blowing, the soundtrack is monstrous, and is still the best Sonic experience I've ever had) 2. Skies of Arcadia (Panzer Dragoon Saga devs got their chance at a big budget RPG and it comes with a great battle system, triumphant music, amid a pretty goofy story) 3. Phantasy Star Online (MMORPG on a console with such a great setting/music, so far ahead of its time) 4. SoulCalibur (Possibly the greatest leap forward graphically on console, this game is still pretty and fun to enjoy even with 5 sequels) 5. Power Stone 2 (The definitive party game for Dreamcast and while it isn't quite at Smash Bros level, it has enough personality and fun to stand on its own) 6. Project Justice (A great fighting game exclusive that melded 3D combat along with air combos, a very tricky combo that games struggle with today) 7. Resident Evil: Code Veronica (Although a mid-tier Resident Evil game, it's another example of a leap forward in graphics and setting the stage for the modern Resident Evil characters) 8. Shenmue (The importance of this game for open world interaction beyond just Yakuza can't be overstated. Harder to return to now, but it must be respected) 9. Chu Chu Rocket (One of the most strange puzzle games, but if you can sell the product it is a roaring good time with four players) 10. NFL2K (Much like a lot of these, the leap forward graphically is incredible and the simulations begin to shape up to what we have now versus more arcade style experiences) 3rd Strike, Marvel 2, SNK 2, and others are also valid, but I don't consider them Dreamcast games so much as ideal ports (Marvel 2 would be No. 2, 3rd Strike would be 6th, and SNK2 would be 10th if anyone might be curious) AFTER I'm happy 2K made it, need to revisit DOA2 on DC, major disagree on Crazy Taxi from a port perspective (I popped that SOB in and the world vanished on me and became unplayable, if Max can discount Skies of Arcadia for it not hooking him, I can hit Crazy Taxi for bugging out on first impressions), and I can't comment on Virtua Tennis

[@ForeRunnerODST]

I wouldn’t say it’s “revolutionary” but Dynamite Cop is amazing. Just pure beatemup fun. It’s one of my favorite games on the system second only to Skies of Arcadia

[@jaealxndr]

i didnt think Simms would dislike shenmue so much lol

[@YoVideogames]

Thats what happens when you play it to completion.

[@jaealxndr]

@@YoVideogames lol I loved your take , Matt

[@Sonicfalcon16]

That's true. I played both games for achievements and had a guide if I got lost ​@@YoVideogames

[@Blur_Comet]

The nostalgia is sta-rong in the opening 8 minutes 😂

[@xGunbladeKnightx]

-CvS2 > MvC2 -Project Justice > DOA2 -Spawn in the Demon's Hand > Power Stone 2 - Skies > PSO

[@SamwiseTheNotSoBrave]

No Soul Reaver mention hurts my soul. I know it's more of a PlayStation franchise, but the DC version of Soul Reaver was the absolute best one. I also think the Dreamcast version of Unreal Tournament was the best one. EDIT: Just got to the part where Max mentions SR, but he made the same point I did.

[@Sonicfalcon16]

2 games were on the list because of if vibes. One being the reasons its on there snd the was removed because thats all it had

[@56kModemNoise]

If Max loves Shenmue he really should look into the Yakuza games.

[@darkendpath8788]

Blue stinger and sonic adventures is my favorite

[@asdfasdfasf8]

after coming back from the ps1 and snes top 10's this is but a gentlemens dissagreement

[@danielkey2671]

The long list sorely missing Bangai-O, and probably Dynamite Cop, Undercover Mission and ChuChu Rocket! Its a shame VF3 TB gets downplayed as besides it not living up to Soul Calibur visually its still a fantastic fighter.

[@lewisgrant7622]

Shenmue would’ve been great if it wasn’t sega’s desperate attempt to release it to make people forget about the ps2

[@Cragnous]

Bro Third Strike on the Dreamcast is the best version. It's technically a patched version and has more options with the System Directions, so much fun. I don't understand arcade purisist, if it were released today, it would of had numerous patches like recent games.

[@HyperShane]

At least, Two of my favourites got top 10 in Virtua Tennis and Crazy Taxi. I love Sonic Adventure 1 so I would of put that first on my list and Jet Set not being on top 10 tho :(

[@justinburchett8424]

Shenmue 2 is still my favorite game of all time. The first one is great as well.

[@GhibliNova]

When you go for impact over fun, you end up with a terrible list. Skies of Arcadia MvC2 CVS2 Crazy Taxi Power Stone Sonic Adventure 1 Grandia 2 Sega Rally 2 Project Justice Giga Wing 2 Is more accurate.

[@andersross4011]

Virtual Fighter 3 and Virtual On should be on this list.

[@MrDflego]

Ferrari F355 Challenge on the Dreamcast is the greatest game of all time.

[@popculturepausescreen1522]

Sat here, screaming for 20mins to get rid of NFL for top 10 while the doods are running through the list and FINALLY they hear me!! 😅 AND they still dont get rid of it FML!!! How do you go from saying NFL should be off the list to making it 7!!!!

[@moogleboy]

Soul Reaver on DC is MILES ahead of the PSX version. It's not even a comparison.

[@elephantsarecool7]

No it's not... And they literally reviewed the same lol

[@moogleboy]

@@elephantsarecool7 Go play the PSX version, and then the DC version and tell me they're the same.

[@elephantsarecool7]

@@moogleboy I have... The DC version is slightly better. Not miles ahead like you said. Though, I will admit, I do prefer the PSX controller so that might be influencing my opinion a bit lol

[@moogleboy]

@@elephantsarecool7 It has higher resolution textures, it's locked to 60 fps compared to the PSX version being 30 fps, higher bitrate audio, uncompressed FMVs... Nah man, you've got some glasses on. It's like comparing VHS to DVD.

[@elephantsarecool7]

@moogleboy So it's visually better... the least important part of a game. Again, not miles ahead better lol

[@burnsyboy2007]

I think Headhunter should have been on the list - that was a fucking class game 🎮👍🏻

[@leonrivera3712]

No record of Lodoss war? But space channel like cmon

[@Sonicfalcon16]

Can we do this for saturn

[@danhectic5629]

best version of MDK 2 is on DC and NOBODY CARES but me.

[@tsukikoinkling2221]

I've only played shenmue on the dreamcast decades ago before it had to be sold, and i never managed to play it again. Shenmue games really needs to get ported. Sega really has to stop giving Sonic the spotlight all the time and start resurrecting these other ip.

[@elephantsarecool7]

Shenmue has been ported dude. Sega also doesn't own the Shenmue license anymore and they've announced numerous new games for some of they're iconic franchises are coming. What rock have you been under, bro?

[@jeremiahgrayest]

Shenmue da best

[@nelson3512]

Justice for code veronica

[@Blur_Comet]

Also: does anybody remember Star Lancer? Fantastic squad based star fighter game; never gets mentioned =/

[@ramonmercedes8593]

It's was more fun playing basketball and football my self so Sports games are off the list for me

[@dxtremecaliber]

Nah basketball games are fun cuz thr franchise modes

[@audiohydration216]

Ready rumble rd 2 deserves to be on there.

[@90sXP]

My list Toy commander Sonic adventure Dynimite cop Mvc2 Power stone Marvel vs Capcom Capcom vs snk Calcom vs snk 2 Tony hawk 2 Sega swirl House of the dead 2

[@Fools_Requiem]

Tony Hawk 2 is the second highest rated game on the Dreamcast on Metacritic. #1 is Soul Calibur.

[@Pokestein1]

Tokyo Xtreme Racer 2 is in my top 10 for sure.

[@billiesan69]

Test Drive Le Mans should also be very close to this list

[@dragons_hook]

The fact that you could actually play it for a full 24 hours! Absolutely nuts!!

[@_KevinLong]

12 minutes in without MVC1 is painful.

[@faceurhell]

Left off because it was on Saturn with a near perfect port. Similar story to Tony Hawk and Resident Evil 2 here.

[@FactFeast24]

Power stone 2, house of the dead 2 and time crisis for sure!

[@Muggles3130]

Typing of the Dead

[@AASLT405]

7:55 had to pause and add READY 2 RUMBLE!!!