Top 10 Sony Playstation One Games! The Great YoVideogames Debate!

[@thatoverweightguywitharms.7961]

Uh oh, Steeb's here, and the video is over two hours...

[@chaelmavik]

Steeb was basically necessary in any of these types of videos.

[@TheRiisingSun]

"We're going to let this man finish, so I can cook him." Continues to interrupt 😂

[@clubsandwitches]

Steeb is da goat

[@AshflowEX]

we need chaos and disturbance 😂

[@regularspecial1]

kenny is honestly ruthless in these. mad respect. he'll kill his own game to get another one that he knows doesnt belong

[@kuroro87s]

If Stadia hired steeb to sold the "experience" they would still be in business LMAO

[@RandMan612]

Absolutely wild that Crash and Spyro aren’t in the top 10

[@Davethawave1999]

Meh. For Platformers and multiplayer the N64 was the system to go to. Everything else the PS1 covered

[@RandMan612]

@@Davethawave1999That’s fair and I’m curious to see the other 8 on their N64 list (outside of LoZ:OoT and Mario 64 which was mentioned earlier), but I’d argue that Crash Team Racing isn’t better than Crash 2 or 3 or any of the Spyro games

[@donah4496]

Especially crash 2, one of the greatest platformers of all time imo

[@SilentKGaming]

Bruh, what is up with Steve’s logic? Like… WTF? His argument of “same franchise” has got to be the most whack ass argument I’ve ever heard

[@chaelmavik]

He's talking about it in the same about the whole of the console and it's impact. I wouldn't put it past someone in the chat to put the top 4 as all Final Fantasy games.

[@anonymousnate678]

This man argued for "Game Demos" to be on the top 10 as Max has always said "Steve will argue anything".

[@thouartseraph]

das why we love and need Steeb.

[@lewisgrant7622]

@@anonymousnate678he also argue music maker as top 10

[@faceurhell]

Steve needs a time limit. Calling Final Fantasy VII and FF Tactics and Crash and CTR the same genre and game is crazy. He made this 30 minutes longer than it needed to be.

[@SilentKGaming]

And it was the double and triple down for me, after the Doods explained why his argument was not valid at all

[@0Aberration]

It was insane how much time he spent defending MTV. It was a 1v3 debate, he needed to accept there was no way it was getting into the top 10 on his stubbornness alone.

[@kR-qj7rw]

Steeb moment

[@guillaumedemers2834]

Well you know its just steeb arguing... he doesnt know how😂

[@girlsnotblue3804]

he also made this fun lol

[@MegiddoTheImmaculate]

Kenny defending Gran Turismo 2 is the best part of this video.

[@f5rhawk]

I would have defended it too. But I admit that I’m heavily biased.

[@androidps1440]

I mean i love SOTN one of the best games but come on man GT2 just define the Playstation and push the console to it's limits and the fact that it still played today and the community recently made new mods with new content and experience just shows how great GT2 is Shout out to the A-Spec Mod Team

[@truindividual]

Still have GT2.

[@LelouchRika]

That debate was fascinating to watch. Definitely worth ruining my sleep schedule for a few days to watch it all live. My personal top 5 would probably be Chrono Cross, Final Fantasy Tactics, Symphony of Night, Tactics Ogre and Tales of Phantasia but I played those games just as much if not more on other systems so I'm not sure that's fair.

[@moogleboy]

Honestly, the PSX library is so stacked, you could probably do a Top Ten for every genre and STILL have trouble cutting stuff out.

[@zaidabraham7310]

The issue is that a lot of the 3D PS1 games don't hold up. The only 3D games that I still personally find enjoyable to play are Crash 1-3, CTR, Metal Gear Solid, RE2, Tekken 3, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2, Spider-Man 2000 and Spider-Man 2: Enter Electro

[@michaelcervantes4865]

Are we doing another console soon? I love these debates.

[@erikferal]

heads are gonna roll in the streets when they get to the ps2

[@faceurhell]

PS2 sort of lacks a central game. Gran Turismo 4 >>> 3, but 3 sold way more. God of War had yet to hit its strive. Devil May Cry 3, Ratchet 2/3 are all baller but only did okay. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas was the best-seller, but is it the definitive game? Metal Gear Solid 3 overshadows 2, but 2 sold way more. Tekken 5 was amazing but the PS3 port was better, and Tekken Tag Tournament 1 sold more.

[@faceurhell]

Also forgot like Need for Speed games. Lots of great games; the lack of a main character game for PS2 was a strength of the system.

[@bombon9674]

@@faceurhell your argument makes no sense. you're trying to decide a top 10 games on the system based on sales? nonsense

[@seanreusing4409]

The fact that Steve was involved in this list makes it entirely false and I demand a redo there is no way in hell you don't have a mainline crash bandicoot and Spyro the dragon on a top 10 PlayStation 1 games list

[@TheRiisingSun]

💯

[@allbies]

Max low-key didn't want smash and spyro in. He suggested removing Crash near the end which is just a wild take and that's why it ended up being removed.

[@CalciumChief]

Only Steeb would pick something like MTV Music Generator and defend fiercely. I just love THPS2 made it to top 10 pretty uncontested and the doods don't seem to have even played any THPS.

[@chaelmavik]

@CalciumChief THPS2 and that series as a whole isn't just a good game. It's impactful to the point that Tony Hawk became a household name and pushed the skater thing back into mainstream, defining 2000s culture, jackass, clothing like vans. I'd personally put it lower on the top ten, but some of these recommendations like Xenogears and it's not even close. 30 years later and I only just now know what Xenogears is.

[@judahbestyt]

Dreamcast List: 1:21:53 Playstation List + Steeb: 2:26:58

[@gemcim1]

No Xenogears is crazy! The cool ass deathblow combat system and the fact you get to play as a cool Mech in 1998 in a JRPG was a lot more groundbreaking than some of these other games lol

[@asdfasdfasf8]

Steve saying tactics and ff7 is the same genre is like saying all asians look alike

[@JosephHobbyVA]

My favorite food is also buffet, Max. Also wish more people knew about Pandemonium - that would be a top 10 for me, but mostly because it was one of my mom's favorite PS1 games. It was a solid platformer, though.

[@Howl9000]

"Crash Bandicoot & CTR, Final Fantasy 7 & Tactics, they are the exact same games & we cannot have two games of the same franchise" Your honor, this was verbatim the actual argument presented to you by the prosecution in the omega supreme court proceedings of which Playstation games are to be deleted & banished to your mother's ass. & once again I move to officially make Crash Warped the GOAT of Playstation 1's catalog

[@girlsnotblue3804]

dude this bothered me so much, Simmons said he beat all 3 crash games if so why wasn't crash 3 on the list instead-you had rpg progression mechanics, crazy replay-ability, u could unlock a fukin melon bazooka, so many secret levels -even some discovered more than a decade later, it was AMAZING

[@darkinertia2]

honestly demo disks are some of the most nostalgic things you can play, theyre a total time capsule and especially jampack and the vault had the craziest secrets and hidden games. i remember getting one that had that fromsoftware game and irritating stick in japanese still because it wasnt ported over

[@faceurhell]

Demo disks are not games. They should be considered in the best features or apps for the PSX.

[@Davethawave1999]

@@faceurhell Demo discs ARE games, just not full games. As a poor kid growing up those demo discs were everything

[@BloodofBelmont]

The demo disc is how I found out about cool borders. So much fun

[@guillaumedemers2834]

Yes i agree but its not a game that deserve a place in the top ten

[@Indead]

Official Playstation Magazine 14, and Interactive CD Samplers 3.5 and 7 had my ass for years

[@drifreire]

Simmons is the voice of reason.

[@truindividual]

Right. I had a conversation with him before. He is

[@PowerKollector]

Please keep this going! Y’all gotta do PS2 at some point

[@bradleylovej]

I realized why I like these: they're like episodes of Sunny. Those guys are always having wacky delegations

[@Deadfistx12]

You guys need a camera on the board i cant read that shit unless im on 82" tv

[@LordBeMine]

14:38 That moment will forever live.. 😂😂😂

[@Frankieyoo222]

This will never make it on anyone’s ps1 game list but my favorite ps1 game was Brave Fencer Musashi!

[@bradleylovej]

I was thinking that the whole time. After FF7, I would have gone Mega Man X4 then Brave Fencer Musashi. That game is amazing. It's honestly exactly what I wanted from a 3d 32 bit game.

[@ohn1892]

Incredible game good call

[@jumprangle768]

It would make it on mine

[@Peppy34420]

@27:25 I was waiting for that question from Steeb!

[@darenh355]

Kenny up in here dripped tf out. Save sum ladies for the rest of us

[@tylersmith8406]

As an avid boxing fan, I know why Mike Tyson got that tattoo. From his own mouth, he said he found out about the Maori tribes in New Zealand and really admired their style of tattoos, so he got one like it.

[@albertfajarito1]

steve losing his shit doing the crab... priceless

[@Eli-t5e]

I haven't played tactics, but it'd have to be pretty epic to be in the top 10 over Final Fantasy 9

[@truindividual]

Dude. Go do it. If u have a PC emulate

[@pwnst4r117]

I'm glad I came and watched this after the edited version. I was surprised Soul Reaver wasn't on there, but after hearing your argument against, I don't agree but I do concede to the point regarding the puzzles and general combat. They're not great. I just wish it would have been acknowledged how revolutionary the shifting was as well as the lack of load times. Still, glad it was at least mentioned. The biggest surprise on the list, for me, was Bloody Roar 2. I love Bloody Roar and wish the franchise would make a comeback. So to hear it even get mentioned was really cool. Love the group videos. It makes me wish I could convince my friends to do something similar.

[@liuchenen109]

FFT is better in War of the Lion (PSP) Better translation, Multiplayer, Endgame dungeon, better cutscene. Dark Knight playable as generic job in PSP.

[@truindividual]

Yes. I agree. Max agrees too. He enjoyed the shit of it. So did I.

[@MrJamothy]

I love FF7. It was the first rpg I ever beat. I also believe that FF9 is better in almost every regard.

[@DumpsterM0nkey6]

Saying this now before watching and didn't watch the live stream, if Twisted Metal one or II didn't make this im gonna be very sad. I will literally not argue any other choice as long as TM is there

[@faceurhell]

Twisted Metal II is the greatest fighting game on the PS1.

[@drewstar8611]

This is gonna be Max debating FF7 being number 1! For at least an hour

[@JoanLein]

So no valkyrie profile? :(

[@nikkiwileman7033]

Don’t forget to do the Sega Saturn top ten list aswel guys after the 64 and before ya move onto ps2!laters

[@SilentKGaming]

Well, as they said, that’d just be a discussion between Max and Simmons and I think they’d pretty much be in agreement the entire time with very little debate

[@guillaumedemers2834]

Just the fact that max mentioned breath of fire 3 makes me happy😂

[@zhaf]

2 minutes in and I think we have our top 3 right there. List done! Oh.... the video is almost 2 hours 30 mins long...

[@xyoutubearchivex]

Amazing discourse, loved the arguments for and against. Gotta say, if it was top 20, id for sure have oddworld in there, because when i was a kid i tried it at toys r us and was blown away by it, but i was a nintendo child in the early days, and it was good. Not top 10, but i dont think it should have been cut so early.

[@therayldeal6683]

I'd have to think about it for far longer to feel confidant this would be my definitive list, but my Top 10 would probably look like this: 1. Final Fantasy Tactics (also just my pick for best game ever made) 2. Final Fantasy IX 3. Ape Escape 4. Resident Evil 3: Nemesis 5. Resident Evil 2 6. Crash Bandicoot 2: Cortex Strikes Back 7. Final Fantasy VII 8. Parasite Eve 9. Spyro: Year of the Dragon 10. Symphony of the Night I haven't played Gran Turismo 2 though, and I definitely want to more after watching this video.

[@Just_B]

Demo Discs should be on there forever. A lot of them were different from the final product

[@chaelmavik]

It was great to have to Steeb in this convo. No one wants a unanimous 15 minute decision on literally the top 10 of Playstation, its inherently meant to debated about.

[@ohn1892]

Demo disc debate over Twisted Metal 2 is something else god bless

[@albertfajarito1]

first of kudos for kenny being constantly the most visual in the group.

[@allbies]

Did anyone in the comments play Small Soldiers on ps1? That game was insanely fun versus friends and deserves some recognition

[@enriconolasco8124]

I WAS WAITING FOR THIS

[@eyes_of_mako]

We all know GT2 is top five, but with these guys, I’d just be happy to be on that list! Also props to Simmons for being pretty reasonable throughout the whole thing.

[@PlayDHDGaming]

The way Steve pops up from behind the chair "was it 2 or 1?" having been distracted by Kenny on his phone and Max flippin the pen completely caught me off guard 🤣

[@androidps1440]

Oh this is gonna be fun Also respect Kenny for defending GT2

[@francesfuego6950]

I argue that the demo disc argument is valid if you septic which demo disc . I remember Pizza Hut and dominoes having differences in also remembering that one disc with tekken 3 crash 3 grand tourismo and that weird ninja game

[@jackjackson811]

"Every car, feels like every single car." Riveting stuff 😂 yes i know what Kenny means but it's still funny.

[@ps3inquisition441]

Need Xenogears playthrough from Max

[@tbucket2370]

Kinda surprised Simmons didn’t bring up Klonoa at all. Otherwise this has been fun to watch. Steve went full Steeb here.

[@Dakka0451]

I can't believe Kenny didn't put Rival Schools on there.

[@Dakka0451]

Nevermind I just got to that part. I'd take Rival Schools over Tekken 3 for me personally.

[@SteinVidarAndersen]

46:37 Top 10 Anime Betrayals

[@SamwiseTheNotSoBrave]

As Xenogears is my favorite game of all time, I can understand why it wouldn't be on this list. I wish it had at least been represented, but Simmons is the only RPG player in the group, and he doesn't like the game. Such is life. As for what was there, my only "gripe" (and I use that term extremely lightly) is FFVII above MGS. I love FFVII (it's my second-favorite in the franchise after X), but I don't think it's as fully realized as MGS is. MGS single-handedly created the modern stealth action genre, pioneering an entire gameplay style and nearly perfecting it on its platform in the same stroke. It also had a quality of cinematography and voice acting that was nearly unheard of at the time. FFVII, on the other hand, used a good but derivative battle system: the ATB system was being used for the fourth game in a row, and materia was basically a (better) iteration of the esper system from FFVI. The minigames, while full of personality and charm, were clunky at best and damn-near unplayable at worst. From a visual perspective, it's great; however, there are a lot of people out there that don't share my love for chunky polygon figures, and that's how the characters will look the majority of the time you're playing. I could go on, but I'll put it like this: if FFVII is such a perfectly realized, best of its class experience, then why were people clamoring, nay, BEGGING, for a remake? Because, despite how great it was and still is, it was full on unrealized potential. MGS was basically as perfect as it could be when it came out.

[@girlsnotblue3804]

I sew alot of steeve hate but i wouldnt change this dynamic at all, i lobe all their perspectives, and steve makes it so much more entertaining and gives the initial list a little more variety

[@kway26]

19:04 and here we go 😂😂

[@kway26]

My lunch at work is so fun right now

[@jesseslack2089]

Not a soul where I was in life ever had or even talked about this MTV music game...but all the others yes.

[@myenemysenemy1043]

FF7. RE2. MGS. The holy trinity. It's no surprise they came up first.

[@ManuKazu11]

PS2 list is gonna be nuts

[@sayaningen]

27:50 Based Argument Kenny 😂 And I put Vigilante 2nd over Twisted Metal

[@azrael272]

FF7 over MGS? Y'all are definitely smokin somethin.

[@ilnonvivo]

I like Megaman X4, but no way is 7th all time ps1 game lol

[@Jenova867]

It’s a personal list and I would put it in my top 10 but it would be number 10

[@VariousMethod5]

Yeah, this is my 1 issue with the list. Its probably closer to top 20 than #7.

[@yinepuiwhite3955]

I'm a hardcore MM fan and I'll even fight them on that, imo at least Zero 3 is the best Mega Man game, as much as I love X4. Also Legends 2 got hella snobbed, I'd put it in top 30 at least!

[@nekoshyguy5833]

You know when I saw this video and saw that Steve was in it and it was twice as long as the Dreamcast video, I was like “oh geez, Steve is gonna make some controversial calls.” Little did I know that it would be Max and his slaughter of Oddworld before Kenny could defend it would be the most savage thing, and Steve would be the unsung hero for breaking the tie between FF7 and MGS.

[@dKoDe3kAy]

How is Psychon not on the top 10? An absolute gem on Net Yaroze.

[@ThalesAcm]

final fantasy tactics, symphony of the night, megaman x6, crash bandicoot, tekken 3 are my favorites. wish t3 got a release in modern consoles

[@lewisgrant7622]

So here’s what pisses me off i think it was katushiro harada and Michael Murray that said this. They said they don’t think releasing a collection of retro Tekken games would work due to the difference between 2d and 3d graphics. Like are you fucking kidding me tekken fans would buy that shit in a heart beat

[@doomzilla3568]

OHHHH SNAP....the second great debate is here, and it's on (Alongside the SNES) my favorite console of all time and it's going to be a bloodbath!!!

[@HadoukenX]

Jackie chan stuntmaster, tai fu wrath of tiger, parasite eve

[@JEANS__]

Xenogears is the best and disc 2 is the best part of the game. People really wanted the cut content of: more dragged out dungeons?

[@jessepinacolada]

@1:26:15 Simmons with the accurate take on Baseball lmao

[@MrDcmetal666]

No one bought or played a PlayStation for ff tactics sorry not sorry I get it's a personal list but driver 2 was way better a lot of people didn't even know ff tactics existed until they seen the demo disc in tobal no.1 . Driver 2 was an amazing game and a lot more people played it it's a genre defining game ff tactics is just another RPG on PS1 . 7 belongs but tactics nah . That's a personal choice I get but that would never make an actual top 10 no shot .

[@truindividual]

War of the Lions was way better. 7 overshadows Tactics

[@jobros2795]

No crash automatically disqualifies this list

[@HOOL456789]

What about pepsi man, winning eleven, fifa and wrestling games

[@wardo8150]

Wonder what the Xbox 360 list would look like 10 years from now. These guys don't play fallout or Skyrim. Cod4 would be there and gta4/5 if Steve shows up.

[@maximillion311]

No Bushido Blade should be illegal

[@caas93]

I will always love Kenny's bs stories

[@dKoDe3kAy]

I wish i had a nickle for every hour i played of the Nightmare Creatures demo. 😂😂

[@technosworld2]

Wipeout XL/2097 is waaay better than Wipeout, should have been on the list

[@HN-fb6md]

Longest debate ever!

[@andersross4011]

Twisted Metal. Tomb Raider, Tony Hawk 2

[@Lord_Raptor]

I would add Vagrant Story and Vandal Hearts.

[@voodoowoodoo4241]

I wouldve loved to see Hot Shots 2 on here 😢

[@Bluargh02]

I'll be surprised when soul reaver would be on it

[@walfull1079]

I would like to suggest Tomba!. But I know it won't make past top 20 with these guy's

[@carlos25301]

Damn... Love these! Was Splinter Cell Sony Playstation?

[@faceurhell]

Xbox

[@AlphaladZXA]

Those were always better on Xbox cause the hard drive

[@allbies]

PC

[@bradjmir]

No love for hot shots golfing

[@BigBenFTW]

My mother will not be happy about this list

I prefer vandal hearts over ff tactics and i like ff7 but it would be nostalgia speaking and the story was great but when it comes to gameplay i would definitely put ff8 over 7

[@MegatonHookshot]

Laura Croft??

[@OotoriKyouya]

Steve's defence for Parappa and Music Generations is so weak. They were both bad and mediocre

[@simonsayz5484]

Where's Fear Effect?

[@user-bk3cp7kk1c]

No smackdown?

[@truindividual]

I wouldn't agree on top 10. 20? 30? Sure.

[@zhaf]

Which system have the best game demos? It's the goddamn PC and it's not even close.

[@robbyrobot3303]

shouldn't be saying Pa Rappa with the hard "r"

[@weaponx22001]

You guys forget king of fighters series, and samurai showdown

[@truindividual]

That is more Neo Geo than PS1 and those PS1 ports were not good

[@michaelfortesque1331]

Where is MediEvil?

[@andersross4011]

Battle Arena Toshenden, Tekken , RE2,

[@MegiddoTheImmaculate]

Max hates Battle Arena so they'd never let it make a top 10 list. I'm surprised they left Soul Blade off though.

[@andersross4011]

Ok, for the record, I own BAT 2 remix for the Sega Saturn. That explains why it didn't make the Saturn 10 games. Soul Blade was a good fighting game for its day.

[@andersross4011]

Twisted Metal.