SSO: This is getting out of hand

[@YTRattle]

There was a lot to cover, but if I missed anything please let me know! Part Two will be diving into a few other things 👀 And if I got anything wrong, don't hesitate to let me know, as well!

[@Dayku_DE]

You're very informative and well spoken, thanks for uploading!

[@LevadeNZ]

As someone who has been a paid member of moderation/admin team in childrens online games, this is wild but unfortunately not uncommon. Effective moderation is a significant expense that just goes up the larger a game is, and a lot of companies just... don't wanna. Regardless, the level of chat neglect SSO has here is just appalling, and embarrassing as someone who has done the job elsewhere. There are moderation styles that can very much back up safety guarantees, but to make the promise to parents and then fail so spectacularly isn't a good look, to customers or competitors.

[@arinalakehill7912]

I am an adult player and a mother of three daughters and I WOULD NEVER let my kids play this game by themselves. My oldest does get on but she has no idea there is a chat feature, and I am always with her, right next to her. This world, and the internet, is so scary.

[@Frannie.]

the worst part is TODAYS update they put a little question mark at the top of the chat. And it talks about WHAT YOU CAN'T SAY. I don't think Sso is going to realize that people saying nasty things are going to follow these rules.

[@UmbraBorealis]

It's kind of a legal thing, if you have it written and easy to access what you CANNOT say, if someone is caught breaking said rule they can't go 'WELL I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT RULE!' That's why. Yeah, they're not gonna care whatsoever but it's more of a formality than anything. Without it they'd be even more powerless which is saying something because they already don't do nearly enough.

[@YOURLOCALRAVENOFFICAL]

This is genuinely scary, this kind of stuff on a KIDS game?! This is auctally scary, those kids might run into bad people and possibly get hurt!

[@galacticghostie]

Happens more often than people would like to admit unfortunately. (Both versions of Animal Jam are other notorious ones. And I've had terrible experiences, even on the "PG" server, on the brony fan game PonyTown.) Though, at least most other games have a report button on ALL servers. So there's a bit more hope on them.

[@YOURLOCALRAVENOFFICAL]

@galacticghostie Agreed, personally I've seen some of the people in a Horse isle three club ( Not going to say the name for the sake of privacy) say some things that looked extremely innaprotate and while taken out of context, and there were some things said about the Horse Isle mods that would give most people a heart attack, and the thing is that there are kids on that game, I joined that club when I was 12 and I joined the discord soon after, and so I saw some ' interesting ' things said overall, I don't really mind the constant swearing in the discord but they said some things that a 13 year old shouldn't be seeing, I feel like this a huge problem in games where there's a chat without human moderators

[@Snartfoodler]

It is already happened before, a Dutch man kidnapped a girl using SSO before.

[@jasmine-gl6ml]

Roblox is even worse. You will find countless vids of predatory behavior. It’s truly terrible.

[@lola_equestrian]

It already happened, a couple of times sadly.

[@HiddenUnderneath]

And then my friend got banned because she said "kids stop arguing in the globale chat !" ... for ONE WHOLE WEEK.

[@YTRattle]

OMG what the heck?? XD

[@vornmenachnme3322]

got one week chat ban for "Industriemechaniker", what just means "industrial mechanic" 👌

[@HiddenUnderneath]

@@YTRattle I don't know 😭

[@Sanivia]

i received a warning from a mod a few years ago for saying "i did put a map guide for eastereggs in the sso forum"

[@HiddenUnderneath]

@@Sanivia 😐

[@SunsetEnvy]

Star stable has finally surpassed animal jam in terms of creeps and pdfilia

[@YTRattle]

Ooof, now that is not a bar you want to reach!

[@Zelda_eq]

Animal Jam is still pretty bad. Search up Asteralium aj drama if you dare.

[@exalipher8381]

Yikes! That's a mega low..

[@DragonbaneETHEREAL]

DAMN. No freaking way

[@KLO_Barrelracing]

I wasn’t even aloud to play that game

[@Oraanu]

How can we expect AI to be able to understand context and intent when many humans can't even do that?

[@YTRattle]

OOF! So true!

[@healgoth]

Meanwhile, AI on Google search: babies should smoke 1-2 cigarettes a day 🫶

[@KaylaACNH_]

Frrrr

[@werewolfstrike7]

Back in my day you couldn’t say shit in the chat without everything being censored. People couldn’t even say my SSO player name “hanna” without being ***

[@YTRattle]

The chat is completely broken at this point

[@litaryder3386]

I had another player ask me what breed of horse I was writing and it literally would not let me say Dutch Warmblood. I had to shorten it to Dutch to get the message to send

[@nardalis4832]

Different game, some might know what im referring to but yeah. There was a quest item, which was called *button mushroom*. This item, just resembling a white round shroom, you couldn't say in chat. Because button was read as butt by their profanity system lol

[@kais3297]

you couldnt say "kiitos" (=thank you in finnish) in the finnish servers and the servers finns were in before fi servers

[@Tublking]

you can get ban for saying the player name Gun in chat :/ then why did they make it an available name.. fr

[@ZymXm]

I'm not even shocked, The community is so divided and the amount of sexual, racist, Homophobic things being said is actually disgusting. As an older player, I'm extremely disappointed in the community that allows this along with the developers. The developers seem to want to cover their asses and not take responsibility. I'd rather the younger community be safe than have free chat. Thank you for another informative video, Rattle.

[@YTRattle]

Glad you enjoyed it! I'll be touching on a couple of other points in the next video! There's still a few things to discuss 👀

[@beccaandgoodman]

I don't even play this game but the drama is so entertaining lmao

[@YTRattle]

LOLLOL Other game drama is the best to watch XD

[@Sacredstar23]

The fact that SSO has been around for as long as it has and still hasn’t nailed down their chat moderation system is insane. I remember playing Horseisle 1 and 2 as a teenager and the mod systems being pretty reliable back THEN (10+ years ago??) Get it together, SSO.

[@blondeepartygirl]

same i quit a while ago but still keep up with this stuff hahaha

[@beccaandgoodman]

@@Sacredstar23 OMG I was a HI1 player back in the day (way over 10 years for me o.o)

[@Its_Asteria]

I have never played it. Friends tried to get me to play it years ago but back then I was an Animal Jam and Halo kid lol Animal jam has its fair share of drama, creeps and awful people but it seems SSO has surpassed Animal Jam in terms of issues and drama and I don't know how to feel about that lol.

[@plasticbottle4270]

Bruh, they were using literal child labor to moderate their game?? Bro. They should get some people off the "pump out new horses every week" team and put them on actual development and moderation. How can they so confidently kill their own game?

[@karenpeters8646]

I am elderly and love this game, I play with my granddaughter and do not use chat at all. They should get rid of chat. Sadly money is more important than safety.

[@orangeman3246]

Yeah I know right it’s so disappointing to see 🫤

[@flufflewarrior]

I've said it before and I still stand by that point: Star Stable does NOT care about their players. They care about the money coming in, but they don't care about their player's experience while playing. They don't fix mods (or at least take months to do so), they don't offer anything to older players, constantly get rid of old events (No could-kingdom this year) and they couldn't care less about their chat being a mess. They. Don't. Care. Edit: I play in a german server and the "Breeding" roleplays are really popular....

[@GoldenFieldsSchleich]

Breeding role plays…🤮🤮🤮

[@KaylaACNH_]

Yeah….breeding rps were WILD

[@TheHungerGamesByeRue]

i remember the "rome roles" and now we're onto breeding. WHAT.

[@JustARandomInternetUserHere]

I used to be a moderator for a big game. (I will not get into specifics about the game). But I'm kind of happy that they shut the entire moderator team down. Kids really shouldn't be moderators for various reasons, most notable: being a moderator is a lot of hard work and kids shouldn't be slaving away. Especially not for in game rewards, or worse: nothing at all. That said: having a moderator team is still incredibly important for an online game. SSO being a million dollar company should just hire some adults to do this job. Both having kids as mods and not having mods at all is so incredibly greedy and wrong.

[@mikazzzz2414]

i agree, its very absurd that they had kids being moderators in a game, what were they even thinking about

[@nardalis4832]

@@mikazzzz2414 In very very specific cases some 14 year olds can be mature enough with this, but they are rare. Which is why the age limit is typically 18 to ensure person is mature enough

[@JustARandomInternetUserHere]

@@nardalis4832 I have a problem with the words 14 year old and mature. So I'll just say this: "No."

[@Its_Asteria]

​@@nardalis4832maturity still wouldn't make that okay. Pe dos use that same type of thinking. A teen may think they're mature for their age but the moment they experience something gruesome, or disgusting, it could really hurt them Kids also do not have the same insights, and experiences, that an adult would have. I'd be able to catch inappropriate behavior because I know what words and phrases people use to get to a specific thing. But a teenager wouldn't and shouldn't know those things. That's why when kids moderate, people walk all over them, intimidate them, and they witness things that would 100% traumatize them. Even most adults that moderate SOCIAL media, get traumatized. People don't last long in the social media moderation fields because you see and hear things that would ruin you. Putting a kid through that is irresponsible. On top of that it violates child labor laws in majority of countries, and violates workers rights, because they're not being compensated for doing that work.

[@nardalis4832]

Well I mean, I do know someone who was 14 yrs when they got accepted to moderate a discord server. A proper one, not just a friends server. The others were adults. Then if thats a lie or whatnot I don't know, but its what would make me think there are some with enough sense. She kinda brags about it in her resume (shes a teen now) ​ @Its_Asteria ​ @LK-fc9li Edit: We were friends btw, for like a year. Unlike most ppl who moderate discord servers, she seeks to get paid for it. Which I will at least say is an oddity

[@True-xq1fz]

They can make all the statements and rules they want, but ACTIONS speak louder than words.

[@aerkame]

SSO is slowly dying whether we want to admit it or not and it's starting to show. There are Roblox games with higher player counts than what SSO has which is not a good sign at all. They can not afford to ignore player wants and needs.

[@YTRattle]

Exactly! It's sad to see, but SSO has been slipping for years now

[@Dubstequtie]

I see less repulsive thing in those horse game chats on Roblox than what I just witnessed Rattle show us in SSO. I don’t play SSO. I can smell a money robbing game a mile away, and that one STINKS. Roblox ones are free and some of them are pretty dang complex for a free game lol

[@Its_Asteria]

​@Dubstequtie if I may add too. Many roblox games do also have like, things you can pay for with robux but it's usually optional, usually. And you can still enjoy the game without those purchasable items. Though sometimes the purchaseables give a boost or anything of that sort. But they tend to not force your hand with paywalls

[@Dubstequtie]

@@Its_Asteria The paywalls in Roblox horse games are usually super trivial amounts compared to SSO for the perk it gives. I usually DO buy a perk or two in games I heavily enjoy and invest time in. It's only 0.50-5$ for something entirely great perk wise. Not like a skin on a horse that is 20$ or anything. (Although, they totally CAN/DO have things like that, but that's for the finically irresponsible to fall trap into.. by choice or gain perk, it's for those who are impatient and want a flex thing ASAP. Cause usually, you can go get the thing via in game ways eventually.) I mean, it's a game still, the creators do deserve pay for their work, that IS the incentive to make games is money, and passion is usually second or down the list of reasons.. that's just how it is.

[@Im_Iconic-Youre_Ironic]

​@@YTRattle One thing I hope is that fans bring it back. That'll be great

[@longatti]

Based on their attitudes, I don't see a company that wants to keep a game of quality and alive, but a game that is dying and they just want to make as much profit as possible until the day that happens.

[@sahaara7946]

I fear that but this is something I've said for years now and it's still there. So it might not die so soon but the actions SSE take speak more of a "quick we have to do everything and nothing at the same time. Just grab everything!"

[@longatti]

@@sahaara7946 it's a slow death, i'm afraid 😢

[@Nothingtoseehereanyway]

I LOVE that everyone is finally speaking about the chat problem. I'm on Nightstar, it's absurd to open general chat especially at night (ironically.) Me and my buddy have an inside joke of "never go on Nightstar at night" "Nightstar after 8pm be like:" because of how bad it is.

[@freya-the-wolf]

There was homophobic shit being said in the chat last night. Someone was talking about horror games, so I said "there's this horror game. it's called sso global chat" 💀

[@VibingMeike]

I've seen a lot of people speak out about the chat for years, including myself. Unfortunately, SSO has not done anything productive with the player's justified complaints

[@VibingMeike]

@@freya-the-wolf The homophobia in chat is rampant. It happens even more every time the rainbow festival rolls around. A horror game is just right

[@KLO_Barrelracing]

@@freya-the-wolfI know it was bad although it was day for me so I actually experience this almost every day

[@Vomitperson]

That’s why I’m on freaking stormy pear 💀

[@__canned_bread__]

Literally today I opened global chat to say "Happy Pride" (some people were already saying it) and it was followed by a group of people saying "jesus hates f#gs" over and over again. I got involved in trying to stop it and this lead to that same group of people telling me to "sK#LLs yourself, you deserve to>>>". Ofc I reported it to the support team, but I doubt anything will get done. It's sad that myself, as a player, and MANY others often give up when trying to report because of how bad their customer service is. It's disgusting really. Thank you for bringing light to this - can't wait for part 2

[@YTRattle]

Oh damn, not surprised in the slightest! I hope they will fix this soon!

[@__canned_bread__]

@@YTRattle me too!!!!

[@raejuhasz]

Same happened to me! Keep your mental health safe.

[@bellee15]

i’m not surprised, but i don’t think it’s okay to say “jesus hate f#gs” just because someone else said “Happy pride month” im christian but im not gonna go out of my way and make such a stupid statement. I was taught that you have to be respectful to others (even if they are lbgtq+) not because they like another gender, but because you are a person too. It’s just common sense, really.

[@animallover101able]

Jesus loves everyone we are all sinful but that is why he died on a cross he does not hate fags but he does hate the sin and it clearly states that in the Bible if you're reading a real Bible Jesus says come to me and turn from sin and have genuine repentance one of those being homosexuality and pride is sinful having pride is self-righteousness which is also sinful so no Jesus don't hate people he hates the sin people need to stop spreading lies like that because it makes Christians look bad and they are twisting the Bible these are people who have no idea what the Bible actually says. Long story short Jesus don't hate he hates the sin and asks us to come to him and turn from it.

[@kingagunther9730]

I'm afraid to write down that the problematic moderators who were fired because of their behavior weren't kids, they were around 30 yo at that time...

[@YTRattle]

WHAT?? I was told they were kids!

[@kingagunther9730]

@@YTRattle I wish... but they both were 25-30

[@YTRattle]

That is .... really disturbing

[@MusicComet]

I was sure that certain adults wouldn't behave any better and this just proves it.

[@kingagunther9730]

@@MusicComet Yes, there can not be a working moderator program without a supervisor who actually cares about it

[@ropin_ranch]

I am so glad that you are covering this because it really needs to be said. I’m glad that you went over both sides and you also explained in depth of what this AI actually means. Much love - Red :)

[@YTRattle]

THANK YOU Red!!! ♥♥ Glad you enjoyed the vid! :D

[@RebeccaRavenbird]

Hi Red hehe

[@ropin_ranch]

@@RebeccaRavenbirdwhy hello

[@helios3217]

They need the chat that was there in the old days. Yes, it was frustrating but it was so much safer. I don’t remember it being this bad at all back in like 2016-2017. I don’t even open the chat anymore when I play. I still see this stuff on Pumpkin Meadow! This is insane. SSO needs to do better.

[@Eeee-xl4xb]

they need an appropriate amount of moderators

[@queenofcookie3299]

@@Eeee-xl4xb honestly that still wouldn’t be enough. The chat has to be restricted. Open chat simply cannot be made safe for children.

[@huntermoonhearth]

As of todays update we now have ingame Chat rules with the threat of being banned from using chat if you break said rules, we will see if they keep up with that threat. Thanks for the video, this needs to be more known in the community for sure.

[@YTRattle]

Hey! Thanks for letting me know, can you drop me a link where they say that? I've gone through SM and news, and I'm heading into the game rn to see if it's there, but no luck so far! XD

[@YTRattle]

Ahh, nvm, found it LOL

[@SusWithClass]

What's also important to mention.. The rudeness, bullying and harassment I can read nearly everday in the global chat. There are so many teenagers who think it's cool and edgy to be mean to people that are just trying to be friendly and have a good time..

[@MusicComet]

Fr, I see so much foul language whenever for some reason I open the chat and it's just people calling each other names or someone picking on somebody (probably teens picking on kids).

[@SchrodCat7907]

I want Josh Strife Hayes to do "worst MMO ever" on SSO so badly

[@nikachan5425]

The problem with that is that you need to play sso for a longer period of time than the usual two to four hours he invests in games to really see how bad it is. I would love that too but it probably wont happen T.T

[@Julq4]

customer support changed my email addres after a full month of back and forth, but i had to write in two languages because english one got sent to a bot who kept forgetting what it wrote before so it kept circling around the same question for like a week! And they claim they have no bots in support yeah right

[@cowboy.soapkid]

This honestly doesn't surprise me, night star has always had a reputation for inappropriate actions even back in 2019. Even seen the most vulgar words bypass the system just by adding grass to the sentence. Absolutely insane imo.

[@WillowWhalesky]

2019 was different that was PEAK for night star. Thats when we were completely full and it was hard to even get into the server so its not surprising. We talked about some crazy stuff back then 😂

[@cowboy.soapkid]

@@WillowWhalesky Ong!! This game might suck but night star endures ☠️

[@Elijah.vxp0]

there was in fact a time where the AI was so buggy it was wild. on the german servers you could say "Frischkäse Brot" which translates to Cream cheese bread and get a chat suspension or ban for a week i didnt try this but have seen it live multiple times

[@skybluepainter]

I don't understand why they don't have a premade banned words list that they update per reports by users. Don't have to pay for a shitty AI and players basically do their job for them.

[@nardalis4832]

Exactly, this would be the easiest and most cost effective way to go on about it. A profanity filter that has a list of known bad words and will censor those and similar words, or cause timeout/kick if used frequently by same user. Its a bunch of code, but not something that would take ages to do

[@Its_Asteria]

Exactly. This is something animal jam for example does better than SSO. Their chat blocks certain words and phrases, and blocks variations of those words and phrases because players would find work arounds. Roblox also does this as well. Some things still get through the filter on roblox but it generally is very good, it censors/tags potentially inappropriate things and anything perceived as personal information

[@not_anymore]

as someone who grew up with unsupervised internet access (i feel like that's a lot of us though) and has been straight up traumatized (due to childish morbid curiosity, borderline grooming from randos, and, like you mentioned, desensitization) i really fear for the kids that play this game (or kids who use the internet in general). stuff like this can genuinely mess a person's mind up for the rest of their life

[@d3adfish_]

I mainly left Night Star to be with my friend, but also because (as a 12-14 year old, I used to be on a different server but moved somewhere around then) of the DISGUSTING state of these chats.... UUuurghhhh

[@WhyAreWeHere2023]

I have asked for years for them to add human moderation. It is probably the only way to get the kids to stop spamming nsfw texts in the chat. The times I have reported full on sexting in the chat and the devs not even punishing these people is insane. Back in 2013 when I was younger and just started playing sso, I was a little toxic. By toxic I mean telling other kids that their youtube channel will not get any attention (awful of me, I know) and THAT got be permanently banned from the chat. But now, kids are able to describe their private parts and tell each other to have sexual interactions but they do not even get a week long ban from the chat.

[@SomniaAmoris]

It's so disappointing to see how easy people can get away with nasty things honestly. Had a fight in global chat with someone once because they invited an 11 year old to a 'spicy roleplay' and they said it was fine because the child consented to it. They didn't even have to do anything complicated to get to that either, just advertised their roleplay, got a child in it and thought that was completely fine :/

[@Hawaiianhotsauce]

LITERALLY LOVE YOU, RATTLE! I’ve heard of this happening and was hoping you would cover it!! It’s absurd that people say slurs, swear words, sexual things, etc. and the SSO team does absolutely nothing, but when someone says something that should be completely fine is banned/suspended. Too many creeps and people get away with this on games marketed towards kids like SSO or Roblox knowing the moderation won’t really do anything.🤦‍♀️

[@nardalis4832]

I definitely think world has gone too far when kids start saying sexual things without even knowing what they're really saying. Like, who teaches them you think? lol

[@MagicMelodyStables]

The chat is outright WILD😨 Like who in their right mind would even think that type of thing

[@eviI.-]

Star Stable has straight up traumatised me. I‘ll never get over it to be honest. There are people on the German servers that seriously should get locked up somewhere and every time I remember these people are walking around in public, I get sick to my stomach. There is a girl running a rp club, who has multiple online personalities (I know of like 5). She has 5+ star stable and discord accounts and she is threatening to kill others and so on. It is disgusting what she’s doing there especially with her spicy rps that she’s trying to hide from the public. She luckily got called out on reddit. But guess what, she disbanded the club for 2 weeks and continued to do the same things over and over again. After I stopped playing for now I realised what damage those people have done to me and I don’t know if I should call them out on reddit because what they did was sick and they continue to do this.

[@vali-uo6uy]

So I can’t write my name or type the “” signs, but people can talk about c*ndoms and c*cain? 😭🤚🏻 (I play on a German server it happens so often here)

[@QueenOfKronstad]

I agree with you on this. The problem with the chat is that some people use it to get in contact with others to either become friends or to use them as victims. And some of them are using explicit language on purpose, to fish for victims who are either gullible or willing to be used. The moderators rather sits on their asses doing nothing to stop this, or stops the honest, good people from helping each other with different quests by blocking the chat from users to mention KZbin channels, X or other social media, or even names of channels. It is so frustrating when all you want to do is to help them. It is so dumb.

[@ChernobylObsidian]

EVEN RATTLE HAD TO MAKE A VIDEO!!!!!

[@YTRattle]

WOOT! XD LOL

[@TheGayLemons]

I hate that w. How long I’ve played I know “roam” rps, “wild” rps, etc. “rom” whatever. I get roleplays exist and I’m fine w. That I love that stuff but it always gets too weird and I never understood why kids wanted their horses to have ‘fun’ on an online game. I mean it’s even influenced kids, and me when I was younger, to get into it a bit because those were mainly the only roles people wanted.

[@paradise_seeker6583]

I can't count how many times I was disgusted by what people have been saying in the chat. I'm on Polish server and omg, I'm feeling sick. When will sso do something with it :v I love your videos, thanks for covering that!

[@jane_horselover4845]

This is scary. I used to be night star but I changed to chocolate cupcake probably the best decision I've made I used to run into so many toxic people on Nightstar

[@estetiikkaa]

I still remember when the AI first got out. It really struggled with my language and you just couldn't avoid getting 3-day chat ban every now and then even if you never said anything against the rules. Contacting customer support didn't help, because they more often responded after the ban was already over. After many chatbans (lost count lol) I eventually got banned from the entire game for a week. This time customer support did respond pretty quickly but all they really said "well that sucks" and believed my ban was deserved. Didn't give me any proof or examples of what I might've said to deserve my ban.

[@rinishan]

Yep, considering multiple languages exist, just an automatic banning system without human support sucks ☹️

[@heart_at_sea]

the fact that the chat doesn't let me say irl but allows slurs and co is absolutely horrifying but morbidly hilarious at the same time

[@eleanoropalriver]

Sso added a new list of rules in the corner of the chat... Gee, the 30-year-old men are gonna really start having second thoughts after sso added that, good job sso 🙄

[@misfitwhocares7554]

If you don't have game masters in your mmorpg you are in my eyes a bad game. ffs pay some folks to kick the pedos out, it's not that hard

[@MusicComet]

That's the problem, they don't want to pay I feel like.

[@orio1922]

Lmao I contacted them year ago for insane transphobia and slurs being thrown around to just be told: ''we cant do anything about this!'' its crazy that they're finally doing smtg about it

[@yvonnehawkstone980]

We now have a button ingame! ...which takes us to the Support page...

[@nardalis4832]

want to report a player? oh yes just click that button ah you got redirected to our support page? Well thats what the button is for, because apparently you dont know where our support is 😂

[@probsnooneyouknowtbh3712]

I agree with the general concept that parents should supervise their kids and not let them have unfettered access to the internet, but this is a space that's meant to be FOR kids. They should be able to go there and be safe and not need their parents looking over their shoulder.

[@User-if1on]

Not me being in that server and not knowing this was going on

[@Elisia6918]

As a hungarian player, our previous moderators terrorised the players, randomly ban them and other stuff, also they were 20+ yo, I personally dont want moderators in the game, I want a better chat filter, or NO CHAT at all, for example its still a game for children, why do they need to talk in game? Play the game and thats it. Or maybe get a new rule in the game, if you are not 14 yo you simply cant use the chat.

[@Its_Asteria]

Honestly the issue is more that the supervisors weren't keeping the moderators in check. I think instead of volunteers for moderators. They need to make it a job spot and you get hired after passing several checks as well as only hiring experienced people with credentials. Of course there might be someone who will abuse their power. But generally someone whose doing a job, is paid for it, and isn't affiliated with the game on a personal level, will be better at moderating, than if it was some random 20 yo or 14 yo that volunteered 😭

[@definitelynotashark1799]

I didn't know SSO was a thing before I came upon your channel, I just played the original games as a kid because my step sister got them in her magazine subscription and found the game too difficult. I think keeping up with how terrible this game is through you has singlehandedly kept me from it evolving into a hyperfixation tho LMAO This is seriously worse than the state of MMORPGs in the early 2000s

[@YTRattle]

LOL Amen to that! SSO has not been doing well for a while now, and it's a shame, they had a lot of potential!

[@TiredTigergirl]

As a german roleplayer myself who used to play some innocent magical wild horses years ago, I am terrified. wtf has happened with Star Stable and the people on it. Edit: Also I agree the report system is a real problem. I reported a cheater once and then they sent me an E-Mail stating I shouldnt cheat and why and what counts as cheating and I was just sitting there dumbfounded like: You dont have to tell ME? I just reported it! wdym??

[@Dubstequtie]

8:00 why was the k in “black” censored when describing the attire colors for a club/guild? They just want to wear purple and black attire to represent the guild. Just cause it’s the color black it needs to be censored? Are we really that sensitive nowadays that shades and tints being used to describe ACTUAL SHADES AND TINTS for fabrics in a pixel game needs to be censored now to avoid making someone upset? :/

[@MusicComet]

I kind of doubt Rattle censored that ngl.

[@Luci_frc]

As a German growing up with star stable. I can only confirm what has been shown. I remember always seeing people writing about "breeding role plays" and the clubs were surely very sexual as well. Me and one friend even had an experience being groomed from one of our clubmates who also often referenced sexual content, tried to show us porn, once asked us (12-14 yo) what underwear we're wearing or pressured us into sending bra pics. Even tho it was still a great time (really, the community in the club was very nice), my friend also got a lot of trauma from that. And I wasn't even that stupid. But you can't underestimate the peer pressure that's also happening there. Sometimes I still go on star stable and it's still the same, if not even worse. Keep an eye out for your kids, this is very dangerous also considering that I wanted to meet that person (groomer) in real life and never told my parents about the weird shit they said.

[@feli2698]

I was about to write a comment about how I was impressed that I couldn't find anything wrong inside the South American servers, but as soon as I scrolled a little bit further I just managed to find players mocking the trans community. The most ironic thing about this is that they put in the effort to make a new Fort Pinta Disco that nobody asked for, AND EVEN CHANGED THE DESIGN OF THE CHAT, but not their ridiculous filter. Congratulations, Star Stable!

[@Randomcrap-zx5ks]

10:51 The kitty cat one I can't believe that went through

[@xenomorph150]

... and pray to Azathoth, eater of worlds.... killed me :'D but yeah, its like that...

[@mackenzieperessini8610]

i'd be willing to be a human moderator at this point tbh I don't really play the game anymore, it's become too different from when i started, but i'd be willing to chill and moderate if they ever seek for people

[@GoldenFieldsSchleich]

Same, although I’m not online as much anymore

[@mackenzieperessini8610]

@@GoldenFieldsSchleich me as well. if they could somehow make it a paid position - which, with a game as big and vulnerable as theirs, i feel like that would be a fair incentive - i'd definitely look seriously at it

[@Noybiee]

Hey Rattle! (or just imagine I'm saying your first nam,😅) I'm really glad that you're sharing everything that you do on here and are not afraid of confronting things and issues like these and sharing them with us. Some may already know about these things happening, and some may not. But I, someone who lives under a metaphorical rock, has a hard time understanding some situations properly and what to make of the context of it all, your videos (and humor/sarcasm) help me a lot to understand the problems and how to know what's OK and what isn't. Big thank you for everything that you're doing!😇 (Someone with AuDHD here, lol)

[@yourpersonalfrenchfryoffical]

you can past the chat filter for anything, but i cant fricking say ' sso ' sometimes ;-; this is a kids game, its concering and this needs to be stopped

[@george-nb1cg]

I've seen people use transphobic, homophobic, racist, sexual language but you can't use a lot of numbers between 52-999 for whatever reason or people's usernames. The new chat system is worse than before. They gave us a new, worse, chat system but refuse to fix game breaking bugs.

[@svenimeier1172]

Wow now I'm glad I'm on my very low attended server. Don't need things like that

[@DomiBorealis]

Even as a person who’s not in the horse or the horse game community I still love videos. I admire the dedication to provide better content and safety for a niche community like this.

[@Dawnsember]

The chat has gone crazy, I opened global chat one time, and there were many people talking about grooming and how they like minors- It was disgusting and when I told them to stop and there are kids on the game, everyone in the chat just started saying how it doesn't matter and they don't care-

[@cheesethekoala8756]

Dude I once got banned for reporting a player for getting past the filter and saying really gross and racist stuff on the game. They literally sent me an email back telling me they were going to ban me for a while and sure enough I was banned

[@cawingcrows2072]

Bro what-- thats so stupid

[@roset9835]

SSO Couldnt even do anything against Sylvie Miststream or whatever. They dont care

[@St4rgirl-oxox]

I hate this so much i used to human dorm roleplay with some friends in sso and the things i heard in the chat were not so great like this girl very single time would make her character want to be belted and it would go through i can’t stress this enough this chat System is getting out of hand i heard some old friends of mine quit sso cause of the chat filter and the chat System sometimes i just log off when the chat filter is to bad i can’t even say dora and me my sso friends openly joke about dora the explorer excuse me sso she’s a character from a children’s show

[@RyeStiles]

when I still played sso the chat censor was so bad that you couldnt even write the names of other people, now what the hell is this??

[@YTRattle]

I have no idea, they keep tilting in the wrong direction XD

[@RyeStiles]

@@YTRattle totally, a few weeks ago I was actually considering joining again, because I missed the aspect of just running around and doing races but that's definetly not going to happen now

[@radicocox]

I'm genuinely so happy big creators are talking about this - global chat on firestar is exactly the same as nightstar, players talking about explicit content and such around children. If you're someone who's done this, this is really embarassing for you...

[@Zelda_eq]

I usually keep my chat closed in game. this video makes me kinda glad i did. also- i saw the player name ending in "bigback" not knowing much of it and accepted their friend request.. 💀

[@Tublking]

you can literally type out an innocent message and itll be blocked entirely. but this shit gets though??? cmon sso wtf.

[@lizzyconza7504]

Not the new update coming out yesterday and people fulling saying c**t in the global chat

[@thescrumpus]

Where we're at is simple and terrible. Greed has overtaken priority, when compared to properly protecting children. We see it mirrored on so much social media, I feel like it HAS to reach a boiling point eventually, and more strict legislation implemented. Years from now, at this rate, however..

[@Dusk.Deer.studi0s]

The fact the nightstar earned the nickname drama star just shows

[@vyrraee]

i remember when i joined my first ever club on sso and well… the club leader got freaky with one of the members and started doing 18+ in club chat until someone had to tell them to go in private cuz it made them uncomfortable.

[@Laura_a_artist]

Thinking a chat filter can replace moderators is stupid. Regardless off how fast it can evolve/adapt. Stuff like chat filters and a decent reporting option are supposed to assist and not replace moderators.

[@GoldenFieldsSchleich]

I have an idea: only friends and club chat! You can chat with friends irl or people on sso who are nice and you can just simply hit ignore if someone in you club/one of your friends says something bad, it’s really that simple sso, I mean these are kids they don’t need a global chat.

[@MusicComet]

That doesn't solve the problem, most kids probably will tall back instead of blocking someone anyway.

[@amandablueberrybow4780]

The terms and conditions is more like a checklist at this point.

[@Tealeefers]

Had some people doing the exact same thing a few days ago; threatening to rape me and telling me to kill myself and saying the n word over and over. Reported each and every one of them and still haven't gotten ANYTHING back. Literally not a word. Im gonna continue messaging SSO about it until they're banned. I clicked on this video because of the names I saw in the cover, and as it turns out, I was right and it was the exact same people from the other day, and despite the fact they said they had just started SSO that day, apparently have been doing this for a while, so Im glad I reported them even though they were supposed "burner" accounts. Absolutely revolting, it disgusted me the shit that they said. Thank you for making this video and showing their names, they deserve to be banned from the game.

[@InkGraffiti]

back when i played star stable people were asking for "roam" roleplay ALL THE TIME. At first i thought it was like.. adventure roleplay, like roaming and wandering, but i finally got another player to inform me this was in fact ROMANCE Rp and they even admitted its usually 18+ content ( a common advertisement would be "Seeking roam w/breeding" ect ). And again, this was CONSTANTLY asked for in chats. it was the #1 thing i'd see, as a user who very rarely engaged in chat and was usually just passing through and snooping chat as i went. Roam is not inherantly a bad word, but this is a great example why human moderators are needed.. a human will know the cultures and subcultures of their own community and SSO makes more than enough money to hire at least a few moderators that could be "moderator managers" who could then hire volunteers paid by way of some in game function or w/e. The AI despite how it advertises will never be good enough because the humans, even the very young humans sometimes found on this game, will always find ways to get around it It's crazy seeing that sort of thing in chat considering I would get censored almost every message i sent due to apparently saying some thing or another that the censor didn't like. Usually numbers. You aren't allowed to say numbers on SSO lol

[@skylarsouthhearth1523]

This is indeed a big problem.. when I was younger and just starting the game someone managed to bypass the filter and literally write (p) corn in the global chat.. thank goodness I logged off as soon as I saw it. The most terrifying thing is that no other older players actually tell these people to stop or act even a little aware that there are kids playing the game.

[@ventiluv]

the worst thing is that i cant talk in english with my friend, basically were both europe server (german) I gave him an account that is from my location since he lives in america and the worst of this was that we barely could speak in english it was horrible so we called instead

[@katiemarie3266]

what boggles my mind is i can’t say “anyone hosting a flat?” or post an ad with the word FLAT in it.. but people can say the N word or be homophobic, say sexual things etc ???

[@manymanytacos8082]

BABE WAKE UP RATTLE POSTED

[@YTRattle]

😂😂♥♥

[@DogDogGodFog]

The vast majority of this could have been avoided if they simply employed actual adult, background-checked human modertators. Even say, 1 human chat mod per country, would make a huge difference.

[@DaisyNobleFeather]

Great Video Rattle, as always! Thank you for making a video on this topic!

[@dapplesss]

Yet god forbid you ask a normal game related question you get chatban 🙄

[@Strangehaybale]

Everything got much worse in about 2020. And then by winter 2022 it was completely out of control. The chat system takes forever to learn and so exploits will work for weeks like saying grass over and over. And much smaller games run so much better. For example Horse Academy. Almost never will you see inappropriate language and if you do that person will be kicked within a few minutes.

[@h4y13y6]

istg every time i tune into what’s going on in this community it just keeps getting worse.

[@juju.beans011]

I had a similar experience except I was their (three of them) target. They were saying absolutely nasty stuff and my parents don’t want me on the game for a few days…

[@LilEuphie]

I remember a time when you couldnt say a single number without getting banned. Not "1" or "one", had to say "won" or "too". The chat nowadays is just obscene. I haven't been since a bit before the big update with new character models and UI and now I'm even more hesitant to log into this dumpster fire.

[@Track2HackStandardbreds]

I’m an adult player on the Fire Star server (yes, THAT Fire Star 😅) - it’s a daily occurrence that people in chat will say the most disgusting, vulgar things, call others horrible names, joke about being PDFs and “diddling” kids, and share extremely homophobic and religious views. And that doesn’t even go into the sheer amount of drama between players! Yet we can’t even say other players names or coordinates (or even placings for player-run shows) half the time. The mobile game doesn’t even have an in-game report button like desktop now does, and on mobile you can’t even ignore a player saying the most vile things unless they’re right in front of you (because you can’t click on player names to add a friend, report, or ignore in chat of course!) But at least in this update they’ve redone the chat box so it looks nicer and added an incredibly vague list of rules that no one will pay attention to so it’s ok 🤷‍♀️ I’ve had a bloody guts full of the SSO team lately - after the Equestrian Festival update in April, the special gait on ALL my gaited horses doesn’t work. I’ve sent tens of emails about this to the team (literally since the first week of April!) and all I’ve gotten in response are automated messages asking me if I’ve tried “restarting my phone, uninstalling and reinstalling the game, or checking for updates in the App Store”. STILL nothing has been done and it’s been 2 months now. Not to mention the absolute sh$tshow when they broke global chat to be almost totally unusable right before Camp Western started, then didn’t even bother to fix it until 2 weeks later when CW started. But hey, we’ve got an updated Fort Pinta disco and new dance moves so all is well in the world 🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@foxbumble6858]

I am all for a live moderation team, I mean I'll be one of the first volunteers for it. I've talked about this at length on live streams and in my discord but SSO is my childhood game, and what is in the chats is not safe for a CHILDRENS game. I want this to be safe for people to grow up with like it mostly was for me. I truly hope we get through to SSO and they begin looking for live moderators to help out.

[@Just_A_Wandering_Star]

They're gonna get sued when something extremely bad inevitably happens...

[@alessiaism3]

On global chat I saw someone manage to say the n word and never get any sort of ban whereas I can’t even say coordinates of any sort and even got chat banned due to trying to say where I was

[@Sparky16]

I play on that server. No wonder it's been nice and unpopulated for a bit. I've also seen that sorta stuff appear in many server chats. I don't bother with in game chats unless it's ARK. At this point they should just do what Meadow did. No text, just emotes.

[@MusicComet]

I love that game! I'm surprised to see someone mention it here.

[@Sparky16]

@@MusicComet It is my life blood XD. I play sso to decompress.

[@HumanWasTh3re]

Dutch player here. Our chat is way too censored😭. We can't even speak in full sentences

[@leahspringspoon]

Finally someone speaking out on this! Thank you Rattle! 💞

[@bryantheequestrian]

I tried typi g STOP on the chat because it was soo much. It didn't send!! It just said you cant say that 😡😤

[@Birdsflight44]

One of the problems, funnily enough, is that the rootkit- level anticheat means that there's no easy alternative for people who like SSO and have... proclivities. At least with something like WoW, you can easily use private channels and a whole host of easy to develop add-ons to enhance one's experience in a purely opt-in manner. With even Discord potentially being flagged as a problem, players are actively disincentivized from engaging with players in a private manner, even when they really friggin' should, for everyone's sake. Not everyone breaking the ToS is actively out to harm minors, and many are likely minors themselves, but they can wind up causing harm through exposure, like you mention in the video. This is a VERY IMPORTANT factor, especially when we're talking about an intellectual property that benefits from the image of being specifically distant from more risque ideas. I actively tried to avoid such content online as a kid myself, (turns out I'm nonsexual, aro ace) but it was really hard to understand when things were crossing the line. " Funny" enough, the protective online figures in my life turned out generally more reliable than a lot of the IRL adults in my life, but the internet was a lot smaller back then. SSO isn't letting anyone really step up, they aren't giving people the tools to mind their own business, and they're telling parents that they can be less vigilant on an increasingly impersonal Internet. Its so messed up.