Yu-Gi-Oh! Has A Trap Card Problem…

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Jesse Kotton YGO

Jesse Kotton YGO

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@SamH-e1w
@SamH-e1w 6 ай бұрын
Joshua Schmidt colab 🙏
@MelioUmbraBelmont
@MelioUmbraBelmont 6 ай бұрын
Paleo strongest
@brittis_n3xus
@brittis_n3xus 6 ай бұрын
I have been playing Labrynth/Unchained hybrid for a while now. Karma Cannon has become one of my more favorite traps because of the impact it can have going 2nd. I feel if trap cards want to shine more in the format, we need more traps that can punish establish boards similar to karma cannon. In another note, monsters like TY-PHON are worth a mention because it also aids trap decks into halting very oppressive boards established by combo decks before you resurge yourself with your strategy.
@mawuligeorge5862
@mawuligeorge5862 6 ай бұрын
I feel like we need better trap card as well like cards like imperm or cards that can activate in graveyard
@felixhoffmann3688
@felixhoffmann3688 6 ай бұрын
What is your deck looking like? is it a "real hybrid" or is it the usual shavara and escape in main? been searching for a "real" unchained splash for some weeks tbh :)
@bulbapig441
@bulbapig441 6 ай бұрын
I’m waiting for fiendish cards to combine with lab
@SStrikeFury
@SStrikeFury 6 ай бұрын
might be the only one here with this opinion but I really don't think Karma Canon is healthy
@brittis_n3xus
@brittis_n3xus 6 ай бұрын
@@SStrikeFury As someone who faced a paleo player who resolved that on me 4 times in 1 game (2 set 2 rollback). I can assure you its not as bad as other traps we have in the game. It can get annoying, but not to the extent as floodgates do.
@RAIGEKI420
@RAIGEKI420 6 ай бұрын
The recent banlist killing off baronne and savage dragon was such an amazing boon for trap decks that people don't realize, I've been playing exclusively Labrynth and Paleozoic decks since the list and not only do these decks feel effective going 1st but also going 2nd since you're no longer dealing with hard negates on your traps. These decks also fare extremely well into the majority of hand traps everyone is stuffing their decks full of which is a major appeal. I love grind game yugioh and these decks feel like the best way to do that right now. Another recent trap I personally love is The Black Goat Laughs, while it technically is a "lingering floodgate" style of effect it still takes a good amount of skill and knowledge to know what to call and when to use either effect depending on the matchup, opponents can also play through the effect in certain situations (IE: tenpai dumping Chundra with the field spell then reviving it with Fadra when you call Chundra). It doesn't solo people like Daruma Cannon can but when paired with other traps its been a standout card for me lately.
@mrharvy100
@mrharvy100 6 ай бұрын
You are really stretching “skill” when you are talking about Black Goat. The card is stacked with both a good field and GY effect that benefits both mass mill and trap centric decks alike. There is nothing skilled about calling a name that chokes thier opening turn.. You might as well say Prohibition is a skill card. They GY effect is even more gorilla simple since it’s just better imperm to stop effects from being activated period that bypasses target/dodge/whatever since again it’s another name declare
@ryanhall5360
@ryanhall5360 6 ай бұрын
@@mrharvy100 It's absolutely a skillful card. You have to know the combo line that your opponent is going down, and know when to use it to its greatest effect, considering especially that you have to use either effect preemptively. You have no idea what you're talking about.
@haruhirogrimgar6047
@haruhirogrimgar6047 6 ай бұрын
​@@ryanhall5360 What is your counter to the Prohibition argument?
@ryanhall5360
@ryanhall5360 6 ай бұрын
@@haruhirogrimgar6047 Prohibition must be played before your opponent has a chance to, so it's only really usable on turn 0, usually to call specific handtraps/boardbreakers. You're only ever putting it in your deck if you lose to very specific outs to your board. Whereas, with Black Goat, it's inherently more reactive and flexible, allowing you to catch your opponent in a combo line where you stop them a critical juncture. This means that you have to actually interact with what your opponent is doing and play around their hand and potential extenders. For example, you can Prohibition call Snake Eyes Flamberge Dragon, which is pretty good, but in all likelihood they'll now just be able to make SP/Phoenix and get rid of it, then combo off. Whereas, with Black Goat, you can simply wait for them to activate Ash/Oak to summon from deck, and chain Black Goat to stop them from being able to get it onto the field. Or, if you're afraid of the Fire King combo, you can call Ponix/Garunix, or if they add black witch and you have no way to stop them otherwise, you can preemptively call black witch to stop their starter. Flexibility allows skill to shine through.
@duyknguyen
@duyknguyen 6 ай бұрын
Now that I looked at it, if we have a dedicated " turn 0 phase" for setting all traps for both sides (not floodgates), and then we both would actually start playing it would be just like Handtraps now with more spell traps removal interaction 😂 If we actually look at Handtraps as Traps back in those days (Trap Hole flip to destroy your tribute summon Summoned Skull), then it's not actually that bad.. (it's more like different taste), I also like classic traps more but it is what it is
@Acholight
@Acholight 6 ай бұрын
I think one of the big things trap cards like Welcome/Big Welcome Labrynth, Transaction Rollback, and even The Black Goat Laughs are relevant today is that they have both an on field effect AND a graveyard effect but with a hard OPT and only once that turn clause on them. Since modern yugioh focuses so much on the Graveyard in terms of discarding, milling, or removal etc., maybe making future trap cards with an on field and grave effect, but only being able to choose one of them can really help future proof trap cards to catch up with the power creep and have the trap card player not be worried about removal, or going 2nd to use them as good discard targets, and even provide turn 3 follow ups/disruption instead of being limited to one time use, almost like Lost Wind back in the day.
@rahyansuryaramadhan7082
@rahyansuryaramadhan7082 6 ай бұрын
God I hope they never ban Transaction Rollback, it's such a FUN card to play. It's unfortunate that people sometimes used it as a degenerate stuff but man any actual trap deck become A LOT more playable
@littlezero6399
@littlezero6399 6 ай бұрын
Magical hats has always been a favorite trap card of mine. Attack phase traps are generally weaker in my opinion, but Paleo has made it playable again for me because it let's me "mill" any two traps I want to my grave. So I can dump in more paleos, or transaction roll back and the target I want. So fun!
@Petsinwinter2
@Petsinwinter2 6 ай бұрын
with all the mill Paleo already has, especially since the inclusion of Laundry Dragonmaid, It doesn't really need an opponent's battle phase-based mill like Magical Hats. but I'm not about to say you shouldn't run it if you love it that much
@littlezero6399
@littlezero6399 6 ай бұрын
@Petsinwinter2 Yeah, it still has its weaknesses and it is not some kind of deck changing secret tech. In about 4 games where the card was actually drawn, 2 of them it was a game winning combo, 1 of them I had pretty much already won and didn't need it and 1 game I opened with it and it was kind of dead for 2 turns because the opponent never attacked and I kind of wished it was something else. I just like the card because it can work and I have always liked it. 60 card decks have decent room for some random tech. Most games I never even mill or draw it before I already won or lost.
@WhatsUrName0o7
@WhatsUrName0o7 6 ай бұрын
We’ve been talking about the problems with trap cards since they started dying out when Secrets Of Eternity dropped in 2015. Konami clearly knows what the issue is, the real question is why won’t they fix them?
@danielramsey6141
@danielramsey6141 6 ай бұрын
Because they don’t care enough to put effort into the game.
@Pkey995
@Pkey995 6 ай бұрын
The problem are not the traps the problem are monster powercreep. Mirrorforce would still be good today ... if monsters wouldnt negate/destroy/be imune to traps. The way we played ygo is not like today. We had like 10 traps 10 spells 20 monsters back then. Nowadays mby 3 imperm and a searchable trap from the archetype. Monsters are doing too much. Thats why when we talk nowadays about "traps are doing great" we re talking as if traps are an archetype... which is sad. We shouldnt be "forced" to play lab or paleo to use traps. But yeah those youtubers are doing exactly the same as konami. They are trying to balance traps by powercreeping the shit out of them instead of facing the real problems... monster cardo
@cainadamYGO
@cainadamYGO 6 ай бұрын
PWWB was definitely the best addition to the combo deck I too got my first (local) top with, Dragon Rulers. Currently I'm in love with The Black Goat Laughs, which is basically what you said to hate, a lingering floodgate with multiple effects, but also a well-made card being a mix of the good old Prohibition and Breakthrough Skill.
@AlexanderMadolche
@AlexanderMadolche 6 ай бұрын
You just got a subscription with this video. Wonderful take, thank you. I exclusively play Madolche's and I prefer playing them as a control deck, I topped the 2013 NAWCQ with them during Dragon ruler using them that way. I play casually now bit I still play them as a control deck. I play karma cannon in them for the exact reasons you mentioned. Loved the video
@Stocksockz
@Stocksockz 6 ай бұрын
I topped U.S. nationals with BA during nekroz days, I also played palezoic at its peak, and now play labrynth (max rarity), I love Lavrynth. One game away from topping 64 at the 250th YCS. I see labrynth like sky striker of traps. What I love about lab is that anytime fiend or trap cards get released, it could be potential support for labrynth. What I also enjoy about labrynth is that it has been a deck that has been able to be a contender in the game without being too broken that it then gets hit in the banlist and then all the time and investment to play the deck goes to waste. I like when konami makes decks last longer, then to just make it broken and then ban it after a few months. It's good when they make decks last longer.
@Petsinwinter2
@Petsinwinter2 6 ай бұрын
Have you taken a look at the Paleo lists that've been topping regionals in both formats lately? they still got power behind them, especially now that they have Rollback
@MarioLopez-xs3vc
@MarioLopez-xs3vc 6 ай бұрын
Arias might be a Labrynth card, but it works well in ANY deck relying on traps to work. And even if the opponent has an answer for the trap you activate with it, chaining to it will just bring out the Arias for them to use again on the following turn(or to make a TY-PHON or something if that proves unnecessary). And on the subject of TY-PHON, it's just a great tool for Control decks in general, shutting off the effects of some powerful boss monsters while allowing you to set up your traps or break boards with your Power Spells more reliably.
@awesumsauce24
@awesumsauce24 6 ай бұрын
I really do not see lab as a control deck, it's more of a weird trap card based midrange deck. I think vanquish soul is more of a control deck than labrynth
@babrad
@babrad 6 ай бұрын
Furnitures are the exact same concept of bouncing with your bigger VS to avoid interruption and gain advantage. Welcome with Field Spell + Lovely pop is the exact same bonus removal as Valius pop and the secondary effects other monsters have Lady getting a generic trap is the same as the VS Devil S/T, the main form of disruption (win condition lvl) if your engine isn't interrupted The only thing making it a midrange deck to you is the random Unchained synergy that allows you to play Yama/Rage unlike VS that have more limited ED plays (typically rank4 plays), but I would argue VS goes the very same distance from control to stun (as Lab from control to midrange) by incorporating Shifter and TCBOO to their max legal copies since it was created.
@awesumsauce24
@awesumsauce24 6 ай бұрын
@@babrad my argument is just that labrynth usually combos a lot harder than vanquish soul, VS kinda just makes rock and ends on some things in hand, while labrynth you actually have to take some time to build up your board except it's just using traps this time instead of monsters
@babrad
@babrad 6 ай бұрын
@@awesumsauce24 from my experience with Lab against VS (I also play VS but for fun) even my longest combo in Lab (Rage + Escape + Bagooska) takes even a fraction of the time SHS into Razen into full VS combo takes, especially if we factor in that EVERY VS player I've played against (and even seen online) actively slowplay to cheese game 3 with burger
@miyuminh101
@miyuminh101 6 ай бұрын
Evenly Matched and Infinite Impermanence are both also good examples of traps that are created with the intention of keeping up with the speed of the current power levels and I would appreciate if there were more traps that can be played from hand albeit in specific scenarios that are niche but super rewarding
@mrharvy100
@mrharvy100 6 ай бұрын
Evenly is still too slow for most MUs because they are gonna have a board that either negates it or plays around it easily such as SP dodges. There needs more actual handtraps that are trap cards that can do immediate disruption like Imperm.
@josephcourtright8071
@josephcourtright8071 6 ай бұрын
Those traps are good because they cheat being traps
@whitewurm1121
@whitewurm1121 6 ай бұрын
I love traps in the game as long as they aren’t searchable and have to be hard drawn or pot cards. Whenever certain decks can search their own solemn judgment and then the card is also some floater when sent to the grave. That’s too much when the deck already has 4-5 recruiter cards that keep searching which seems forever. But, nothing is perfect and and it’s all good. I just have to play better.
@Xehnas
@Xehnas 6 ай бұрын
I agree a lot of the summoning limitation traps and lingering floodgates are ones that straight up might need gone, on the other end cards like skill dragin and kaiser colosseum do impose meaningful restrictions on the user. Yes you could put up multiple negates then back it by a skill drain, but why would you, thats just hitting future interruption on your side, when realistically the same blow out can be done much easier with any number of other summon limiting floodgates, realistically the part that people hate with skill drain is getting hit with it on top of limitations to summoning where you may not even be able to go into an answer. On the other hand Kaiser Colleseum realistically limits you to 1 monster, as any more can easily set up a link/synch/xyz/etc into an answer. And even if they are to powerful in the current form then maybe archtype lock them into decks that are ultra xenophobic, or make modernized support for older archtypes and give these effects to them with Burning Abyss level restrictions to only playing in archtype. Imagine actually being able to normal summon Yamato and pass and not be dead immediately. Additionally my biggest defense of floodgates is that nothing less than them will generally make anyone main deck backrow hate. And in general I think backrow hate should be something we have to run that isn't just knightmare phoenix or another extra deck monster. Mystic Mine was for sure an overstep but on the other hand, nothing less than that kind of card or straight up summon restricting floodgates will really make people even thinking of maining cards meant for the backrow that aren't named lightning storm or evenly matched.
@evangel3942
@evangel3942 6 ай бұрын
Would love trap decks to become meta, and some interesting and unique ones printed, but the bigger issue at hand is the newer cards being printed overpowered with 3x effects with destruction and graveyard recurrence that most traps currently cannot compete against, hence why floodgates were opted for.
@CobaltSanderson
@CobaltSanderson 6 ай бұрын
Been testing Trap Monsters in the leadup for the next set, and honestly I think they are a really fun and interactive Rogue Deck.
@ggnoreid6990
@ggnoreid6990 6 ай бұрын
This is why I wasn't a huge fan of the latest wave of Altergeist support. It felt like it was trying to take the deck in a direction that wasn't consistent with its roots being control-focused.
@Oof316
@Oof316 6 ай бұрын
Dharuma Cannon is an easy 3 of in my Labrynth deck. It’s just so powerful and versatile. I really do hope more good traps like this come in the future!
@mr.wassell7885
@mr.wassell7885 6 ай бұрын
I love the pink cards, traptrix is my go to. But I, too have succumbed to putting in floodgates like anti spell and dimension shifter because they hurt other decks more than me. I'd like to see a new take on great individual effects in a slower deck, but the way to get there kind of alludes me. Until powerful sweeping going second cards are either mitigated (which is done via very powerful effects akin to floodgates) or banned (which requires a massive amount of the cards used for first turns to be hit as well), I don't see an easy way to make them viable.
@HapsterHap
@HapsterHap 6 ай бұрын
More decks that run traps in-engine that aren’t just bricks would be a great start. Not talking about decks like Ashened, Kashtira, Mannadium, etc that run a searchable 1-of trap, but like Unchained where traps are vital to their gameplan and provide layered interaction in a fair way.
@Victor-Sappel
@Victor-Sappel 6 ай бұрын
Being more a combo enjoyer than a control one, I still love this second style of gameplay slower but more on the manage your ressource ob many turns that in one final huge board or OTK making machine unlike stun which is just unfun locks to me, Im for having more good traps BUT not annoying gloodgates
@ThSinis
@ThSinis 6 ай бұрын
Problem for trap deck is that they are easier to denie than combo decks, so they've to relie on floodgates to not get OTK'd Negating a trap is also a destruction unless they're continued trap while it is not the case for most of the monsters negates, if negating an activation was putting the trap back in set position unless specified otherwise maybe trap decks would relie on more normal traps, let's take lab for example, you get ash'd on one of your welcome it gets sent to the grave the effect has been used and you're fucked There is also very few slots for backrow protection and they are also way more expensive to use, all the solemns cost lifepoint to use are way harder to search and you've to pay half your lifepoint for a single feather duster or evenly matched denial. Trap decks don't have " extend mechanics " to allow to bounce back from a negate. I'm down to remove all floodgates, but we need to make the playing field more even for trap decks
@heretocommentyou
@heretocommentyou 6 ай бұрын
one of the biggest issues i see is that there are too strong of win conditions for this game, calamitys, puppet lock, diabelle in chimera into dark barrier statue, labrynth with barrier statue and eev. This type of game play makes people who are really good at the game like Jesse make them seem not as prevalent as in 2019 or even 2022 with tear. Watching jesse go through charmer lines into code talking with the yugi deck or the lightsworn full combo with only dragonling in hand against sam was crazy and looked really fun. The end boards provide little counter play for the opponent . Every deck that tops has a i win the game on the spot combo except snake eye witch is already oppressive as is. Not to mention the overlap of strategies outs is terrible outside of droplet and even than you better draw it.
@wilsonator666
@wilsonator666 6 ай бұрын
I play Alien/reptile control and use brainwashing beam, crackdown, and Apophis the swamp deity in addition to planet pollutant virus for my trap cards of choice. Pretty affective all things considered just need more ways to search them out.
@Shadowx157
@Shadowx157 6 ай бұрын
Ban handtraps and make Traps the new handtraps, similar to Imperm
@zaleww5824
@zaleww5824 6 ай бұрын
Yeah imagine handtrap solemn judgement that negate destroy your normal summon. Or torrential or daruma canon for mass rempval at their turn. Or something spicier idp being better dd crow. Congrats you fixed the game lol
@invertbrid
@invertbrid 6 ай бұрын
Looks interesting xD
@babrad
@babrad 6 ай бұрын
@@zaleww5824 "If you control no card, you can activate this card from your hand, but you can't activate a Spell/Trap until your next End Phase" or "you cannot Special Summon monster(s) until your next End Phase". Similar to Ty-phon that was made specifically for Barrone/Savage and other omni negates, this would allow control decks to bypass their biggest counter that is going second setting 4 backrow then getting blown out before these are even activatable. Having a 1 card blowout that could go well into combo would of course be extremely problematic like you mentioned, but promoting a new "Labrynth" that is based on 1 for 1 trades and removal instead of lingering floodgate effects would definitely be extremely interactive.
@kartana7g
@kartana7g 6 ай бұрын
I think that torrential tribute is not that much outdated but need a deck that can get the maximum value of the card without being scared of destroying your own field, if you take the bologna period, the card was insane against rescue because you were dealing with all the hudge bodies that rescue was summoning like turbukence and preventer without carring about the turbulance pop in resolution
@jinsu0504
@jinsu0504 6 ай бұрын
good points...but I feel konami is threading lightly with releasing powerful meta relevant traps due to the facts there ARE achetypes like labrynth that are in the game...lab is already meta relevant...you want to release traps but not so these decks can be super overpowered.
@Chilo-i1d
@Chilo-i1d 6 ай бұрын
Torrential is in my opinion the most skill required form of board wipe removal. You want maximum value off it and really have to know when exactly to use it guarantee max power vs cards like evenly..... that take 0 skill and just go like 1 for 4 removal. Make there be a skill ceiling for removal
@TheSeventhChild
@TheSeventhChild 6 ай бұрын
One thing I kind of dislike is the style of trap that is basically just a spell you activate in the opponents draw phase, and I think that's part of the issue with cards like D Barrier and other lingering or continuous stun traps. Some players might wait to chain them for some impact (like flipping TCBOO when the opponent tries to special summon) but its largely irrelevant. This is one of the things I dislike about the Lab situation where you get to start with 4 cards in hand and have to play through a Rollback. DDKC is a pretty great card though and can really help give you at least one hail mary attempt at surviving turn 3 to get your game online. Especially for a rogue deck like Ninja, which I know Jesse is also a big fan of.
@babrad
@babrad 6 ай бұрын
The issue with cards like D-Barrier is not Labrynth but wombo combo decks in general. Some decks have so much gas a 1 for 1 trade like Compulse/IDP etc couldn't be able to stop them, then even if it did stop them, Trap cards don't inherently generate advantage like monsters meaning next turn you have to get another trap to stop your opponent's plays while also starting your engine to go closer to your win condition (LP to 0). Traptrix and Rescue tried to do this by having their monsters generate the backrow as the deck's interruptions. But even this approach in the end fails because it introduces every weakness of a combo deck (Veiler/Imperm) to backrow decks (since you won't generate it) that already suffer from mass removal as well as lower consistency since backrow that interrupts the opponent typically doesn't generate resources for you, unlike a monster such as Chixiao that first gives you more resources then becomes interruption. TLDR; Lingering Floodgates (floodgates in general) were created to hold combo in check while minimizing resources, naturally leading to very overpowered cards.
@picochap
@picochap 6 ай бұрын
Does someone know what the BGM is? It sounds vaguely familiar. Also I like Lab it's very gratifying to eek out of turn two and just have so much card advantage
@shakeweller
@shakeweller 6 ай бұрын
And it all ends again when decks can quick effect pop your traps in your endphase again. Spyral Sleeper, Drident, Masterpeace etc. It is only a matter of time until we get powercrept Spyral Sleeper and traps will be unplayable again
@joshdavis6830
@joshdavis6830 6 ай бұрын
Honestly, I'd rather a dozen traps like Daruma than 3 traps like Skill Drain, tcboo, Rivalry. The Black Goat Laughs walks that line, but is a little too much of a floodgate. Transaction Rollback is a great boon to trap decks, surprised it didn't get a mention here - the real problem are the other lingering floodgates it can copy, not Rollback.
@nico9912
@nico9912 6 ай бұрын
I really think carma cannon is too powerful going first. Against a lot of decks you literally just turn your brain of and use it at the end of your opponents combo and win the game immediately
@invertbrid
@invertbrid 6 ай бұрын
Well trap needed to be that powerful for current lvl of modern YGO, like evenly matched too, aka blowout card. Else ppl just run floodgates instead. If Konami will print cards that are as powerful or even more powerful than drama cannon, then we can say trap is back into the game.
@TruePartyKing
@TruePartyKing 6 ай бұрын
Love PaleoTearlament super fun and powerful and Karma Cannon is a shining light against the meta. Would love to see more cards like it and rollback. People think it’s a broken card but the LP cost really comes up
@deadlineuniverse3189
@deadlineuniverse3189 6 ай бұрын
Playing a trap deck like paleo sometimes feels like you are playing a tear mirror. You do x to counter y, you do z in hopes to play around g.
@Geo-ok1nw
@Geo-ok1nw 6 ай бұрын
Most players don’t play around anything. They do their full combo with the thought of “if they have it, they have it” So bluffing unfortunately doesn’t work Vs player like that. At least they get punished when you do have it.
@friendlyneighbourhoodsunwheel
@friendlyneighbourhoodsunwheel 6 ай бұрын
It has a combo centric problem. To much insistence on first turn boards that just stun and negate what your opponent does, it's gotten to the point in my city 4 out of the 5 shops have dropped Yu-Gi-Oh due to poor attendance and purchasing.
@LelouchViBritania0904
@LelouchViBritania0904 6 ай бұрын
I would have agreed with the point about Dimensional Barrier being fair . . . if it wouldn't say Pendulum😑 against pendulums this is straight up just unfair other decks if you call fusion or sth. can at least try to like build a wall with maim deck monsters but against pendulum it basically takes an entire mechanic out for them. Pendulum is my favorite summoning mechanic but this is straight up just unfair.
@dooms_terror4977
@dooms_terror4977 6 ай бұрын
I wish trap cards being actual traps. Cards you wait to use for the perfect timing to stop your opponent. Continuous traps like nightmare wheel (Bad card I know) are a way better design concept than things like anti-spell
@arrow6044
@arrow6044 6 ай бұрын
Great video, hope to see more of these in the future!
@bavarianhero
@bavarianhero 6 ай бұрын
Traptrix x Geargia, just for fun all the earth cards somehow went together and were fun to play. But it wasn’t competitive.
@zaleww5824
@zaleww5824 6 ай бұрын
Block dragon to 3 please
@brasil3778
@brasil3778 6 ай бұрын
We need a trap monster boss Not an extra deck monster that helps traps A boss that is also a trap
@Petsinwinter2
@Petsinwinter2 6 ай бұрын
That said, I think the Paleo Xyz monsters fit the deck so well. Especially since they're only really good if there's a trap card underneath them.
@poopoo7107
@poopoo7107 6 ай бұрын
isn't that what you're finished is?
@brasil3778
@brasil3778 6 ай бұрын
@@poopoo7107 "You're finished" is terrible in a regular trap deck since You're trying to stop your opponent And if they activated 10 cards chances are they have destroyed "You're finished" at that point :(
@poopoo7107
@poopoo7107 6 ай бұрын
@@brasil3778 pretty sure it's either players effects, and i mean it still works as a boss monster(tho i do agree it's pretty bad). it's just that trap decks have a very different playstyle from regular ones, so trap deck boss would be unsummonable/unsearchable 90% of the time. statue of the anguish pattern is the best example of this. very good boss monster that you won't see 90% of your duels
@flyingchicken973
@flyingchicken973 6 ай бұрын
Lord of the heavenly prison or lady lab?
@MrTaikobo
@MrTaikobo 6 ай бұрын
I really do enjoy the trap focused decks like Traptrix, Paleo and I LOVE Labrynth. It plays differently to most decks, and having to be aware of your opponent and make reads to make sure your traps go through feels like fun. However, traps are slow compared to the speed of modern yugioh. With games ending in 2 turns or slightly more, running traps in the main deck doesn't feel optimal. Another deck I've played are Ninjas, and they use their traps to snowball advantage. I know, power creep is bound to happen in any competitive game, that's just how it is. But to see representation from a control style and not just combo is healthy. If you're playing stun though...why do you hate people so much? Lol
@debbachedebbache5182
@debbachedebbache5182 6 ай бұрын
karma cannon helped me against dark world with no handtraps and i was going second. twice in one turn. its a amazing trap
@jaredricci9278
@jaredricci9278 6 ай бұрын
Checks and balances are always needed, the ones u want around are very outdated. The new ones are getting better but it's crazy people complain about cards finally get them banned and then bitch that theirs no way stop certain things.
@peterzelaya9948
@peterzelaya9948 6 ай бұрын
Debunk would go crazy if it was a quick play
@nagito6628
@nagito6628 6 ай бұрын
Torrential tribute retrain that can be played from hand if they've summoned 5 or more times in the turn pls
@liamjamse
@liamjamse 6 ай бұрын
The new ritual beast support allows you to get 4 ritual beast monsters out and have 2 steeds in the backrow, allowing for 4 monster pops per steeds. I find that so insane! What are your thoughts on it?
@flyingchicken973
@flyingchicken973 6 ай бұрын
Would like to see a normal trap tier list like you staples one
@PintosPicksPod
@PintosPicksPod 6 ай бұрын
Giving paleo a card like flashing fire or freezing curse would be epic and make the intteruption parts of the paleo lineup a lot more modernized. Konami pls
@invertbrid
@invertbrid 6 ай бұрын
Yea agree, the problem with traps is 99% of em mostly irrelevant in modern YGO. But yea if they make more and more powerful trap like karma canon or even more powerful. Like for example, torrential tribute but return all monster ur opponent control only to the deck instead of destroying all. Or bottomless but no atk restriction, then negate + banish the effect of the monster instead of just destroying, and can't be responded against. A lot of ways konami can do to make more and more powerful generic traps. Which kinda baffling they rarely even try to do so.
@babrad
@babrad 6 ай бұрын
The issue isn't the power of said traps, but watching them being useless in your hand for a turn, setting them being useless for another turn, while the opponent has both their turn and your own turn to generate advantage to the point your set 5 won't be enough to put you into a winning situation as well as disrupt you the turn you set them where you can do nothing about them. Prime example Gizmek Orochi + Zeroboros (Trisbaena and Snow, Tear pop with Planet + Spin with Kaleido + remove with SP, there are countless examples) invalidating any possible hand you may have and forcing you to either with the dice and go first or lose the match.
@invertbrid
@invertbrid 6 ай бұрын
@@babrad well yea sadly the way it is, even if trap being more powerful. Unless trap deck, we can only use em in side deck. Coz as u said going second and drawing those traps are trash. So they aren't maindeckable for most part. Unless the traps can also be board breaker like frozen rivalry tcboo, and dont hurt ur deck. Then can be used on main. The only way to make trap useable is to make it usable going first and second, like imperm. Like take torrential and bottomless I mentioned above, also add effect from hand or graveyard effect + self discard so they can be useful going second too.
@celtic1842
@celtic1842 6 ай бұрын
The only way to make traps good is the slow the game down. Making it to where traps can be activated from the four graveyard is just kind of ruining the whole point of trap card. I think if we slow the game down it would make trap cards more viable. Or have an entire format where archetypes are not allowed. That would definitely slow the game down.
@j2c695
@j2c695 6 ай бұрын
Handsome Squidward floodgates
@TheBrotado
@TheBrotado 6 ай бұрын
Give them trap cards with alternate activation conditions from the hand. Like discarding a card or banishing 6 cards face down from your extra deck.
@leekyonion
@leekyonion 6 ай бұрын
Too generic, we'll get hand traps all over again. Just have traps be rewarded for discarding it or an additional effect when in grave
@lordshmee13
@lordshmee13 6 ай бұрын
Continuous traps should never say the opponeent cant do X, only ones should be like gravity bind, continuous traps should relegated to only affect you positively tho, like flip you get 1000 plus atk or something not crazy like hey you cant play more than 1 type at no cost like get real
@MrItrickzu
@MrItrickzu 6 ай бұрын
A continuous trap that pluses 1k would never see play
@babrad
@babrad 6 ай бұрын
Gravity Bind was the same as Mystic Mine and much better than Skill Drain or Rivalry/Gozen for the era it came out. The purpose of Traps was to interact with the opponent in the first place while Spells were the ones affecting you positively so I would argue the main issue of the traps evolving into floodgates to be relevant was Spells do too much (for example mass removal + consistency boosters) while monsters are even better than Spells that can also OTK
@siapa8904
@siapa8904 6 ай бұрын
Master duel, I love when eldlich dominating with all floodgate cards added. It is just your opinion then.. traps has no problem.. banlist is the problem.
@rafflesiaandfriends
@rafflesiaandfriends 6 ай бұрын
A video about my type of decks, why thank you
@bulbapig441
@bulbapig441 6 ай бұрын
Can’t wait for ULT or QCR karma cannons
@alexdokkaner5741
@alexdokkaner5741 6 ай бұрын
Aspetterò che Mattia bellina ripeterà le cose dette in questo video
@MultiDomko
@MultiDomko 6 ай бұрын
You should look at invoked or eldlich type of deck please? Also i see scareclaw kashtira is a sleeper pick🔥🔥
@itisnot7671
@itisnot7671 6 ай бұрын
Stun is fun too it just makes it go to beat down and thats what yugioh was always about its a cry more situation
@itisnot7671
@itisnot7671 6 ай бұрын
Btw I'm a chimera player with no stun
@ratmilk4079
@ratmilk4079 6 ай бұрын
Dogmatika punishment is my favorite trap
@shterkz777
@shterkz777 6 ай бұрын
Karma cannon is amazing
@stefler2201
@stefler2201 6 ай бұрын
I love floodgates
@EZ2BCHEEZY36
@EZ2BCHEEZY36 6 ай бұрын
Glad I picked up my DDKCs when they were cheap 😅
@JohnSmith-di5qm
@JohnSmith-di5qm 6 ай бұрын
How can you claim floodgates are a huge problem but now because of you im stuck playing against legions of horus stun :/
@corpseparty4433
@corpseparty4433 6 ай бұрын
can you do a ursarctic deck?
@Thousandeyes85
@Thousandeyes85 6 ай бұрын
Transaction Rollback should have its name switched to Paleozoic Rollback. It's like it was designed specifically for that deck
@bulbapig441
@bulbapig441 6 ай бұрын
No it was designed for lab due to the notorious ashes on welcome labs
@babrad
@babrad 6 ай бұрын
Meanwhile, this originated as "code Talker" support to allow Cyberse spam decks to utilize backrow and despite being so strong it failed miserably.
@TheLaisha10
@TheLaisha10 6 ай бұрын
@@bulbapig441 Rollback had already existed in the anime since 2017, so many years before lab was even created/released, and it was used by cyberse!
@DavidEllner
@DavidEllner 6 ай бұрын
Low key I wanna see you rock counter fairies at a high level 🔥
@AaronXCVI
@AaronXCVI 6 ай бұрын
I'd love to see a jesse level Live/Evil twin deck
@GoblinChunk
@GoblinChunk 6 ай бұрын
bro please stop asking for floodgates to be banned what is an old man like me supposed to play
@deadlineuniverse3189
@deadlineuniverse3189 6 ай бұрын
NULL Jar. It’s empty jar, but first turn
@TheNEPTY
@TheNEPTY 6 ай бұрын
I’m 35 and I have 0 issues. It’s not an age thing, it’s a dedication issue…
@GoblinChunk
@GoblinChunk 6 ай бұрын
@@TheNEPTY Yeah I dont have many LGS around me and I prefer paper Yugioh, I looked at ur channel, I was always a big fan of mermail atlantian. RN I just play draco eldlich.
@GoblinChunk
@GoblinChunk 6 ай бұрын
@@TheNEPTY cool channel btw
@babrad
@babrad 6 ай бұрын
@@TheNEPTY Mermail/Atlantean and Inzektor are the only 2 decks that I refuse to ever play, not just for handlooping (for mermail, and ironically I like their art/lore/gameplay) which I find the worst win condition in the game but more importantly for making all 4 locals in my area drop YGO entirely (because of toxic behavior) from 2012 to 2014. Helped me focus on my studies but I still remember the fight we had with OTS owners to start tournaments again and not have MTG only ones.
@Jolfgard
@Jolfgard 6 ай бұрын
Wait... Are people seriously accusing Jesse Kotton of not having experience in an area of YGO deckbuilding? I mean, other than the foundational principles of Tag Team Duels?
@kennypk
@kennypk 6 ай бұрын
My full combo takes 5 seconds and is simply flip the floodgates your full combo takes 15mins and also stops me from playing the game. I think we all know who is healthier for the game. But seriously these decks have way too much gas and too many tools to safely rely on just one time use traps. I darumad a race board for 5 monsters that were summoned that turn and still got bodied after they continued to combo through it. You also did a good job explaining how cards like phoenix sp unicorn accesscode can force a backrow player to use all their traps at less opportune moments. This might be ok if there was much investment on the part of the combo player but in fact there isnt. They just keep printing more cards over the course of their turn. So ye ill beat mediocre players but thats little consolation for me personally.
@jakeehwilliams8820
@jakeehwilliams8820 6 ай бұрын
So your saying you want trap cards to effect players instead of the actual monster
@renekrischbach4741
@renekrischbach4741 6 ай бұрын
I play actualy the Card "Penalty Game!" Ist so funny when i Call spell and traps. This Card ist so old 😅 Actualy a good Option 🤣
@EnzoVicento
@EnzoVicento 6 ай бұрын
Im all for trap decks getting some love, but transaction rollback is not the answer, that card is insanely overtuned.
@Youngboyhaunted
@Youngboyhaunted 6 ай бұрын
Can you do a Tearlaments/Kashtira no Horus engine?
@lKaaru
@lKaaru 6 ай бұрын
But you have to play the outs he said
@fede3j
@fede3j 6 ай бұрын
Dbarrier needs ban ASAP!!
@TheNEPTY
@TheNEPTY 6 ай бұрын
Not until branded is irrelevant 😂
@Jolfgard
@Jolfgard 6 ай бұрын
Are you more of a GY effect guy or more of an optional handtrap guy?
@bavarianhero
@bavarianhero 6 ай бұрын
Mirror force 👌
@patrickhubahib6960
@patrickhubahib6960 6 ай бұрын
Dako naka dong na Igor na imong nahong gi bugas
@soulbreaker625
@soulbreaker625 6 ай бұрын
People really defending trap decks like theyre any better, yeah i want to go 2nd then get shredded through a cosmic booby trap and never get a board going. The game is trash and theres no way to fix it anymore.
@Thatchh
@Thatchh 6 ай бұрын
#MakeTrapsGreatAgain
@kapwns
@kapwns 6 ай бұрын
Clearly this game was meant to be nothing but special summoning. Every problem was meant to be solved by special summoning. Every deck is meant to search everything and have 9+ starters. All trap cards should be banned. All cards that do anything to slow or stop special summoning should be banned.
@Dream_Machine450
@Dream_Machine450 6 ай бұрын
Paleo support!!!!!
@Glamcu
@Glamcu 6 ай бұрын
Ban shifter👍
@doomerman965
@doomerman965 6 ай бұрын
Daruma canon is not healthy especially when you can just loop it back next turn in decks like lab. It becomes a blanket floodgate and with the lack of s/t removal in engine for most decks it becomes a way to cheese out wins you don't really deserve.
@mrharvy100
@mrharvy100 6 ай бұрын
Yugioh has a Yugioh problem. Trap floods barely scratch the surface and is not even the most prevalent thing about the game right now
@jp222111333
@jp222111333 6 ай бұрын
Evenly matched is a cancer to the game and should be banned
@obsidianx01
@obsidianx01 6 ай бұрын
Heavens forbid you cant have a card game with a little diversity. If you really look at it a card or a whole board with a negate, thats a type of floodgate.... just put removal in you deck, oh wait im sorry does that throw off your ratio; poor baby. Mellinials showing a little struggle is too much for them, again..... just sad
@MrBagelBites
@MrBagelBites 6 ай бұрын
Give me my Mirror Force that works like Imperm 💔
@xSkwintz
@xSkwintz 6 ай бұрын
I mean there’s evenly matched?
@michaelbaxter7452
@michaelbaxter7452 6 ай бұрын
​@xSkwintz you would get OTK'd with evenly
@MrBagelBites
@MrBagelBites 6 ай бұрын
@@xSkwintz I don't want attacked silly
@GutsmanLoL
@GutsmanLoL 6 ай бұрын
@@xSkwintzsorry about your disability 🙏
@quacksayssquawk2899
@quacksayssquawk2899 6 ай бұрын
Closest thing is probably wight princess or battle fader
@WretchedPlebe
@WretchedPlebe 6 ай бұрын
WAAH WAAH, I don't like Dimension shifter, so shut up and let me Combo for 15 minutes. You want to play the game you want to play and to heck with anyone else. You're a champ for sure, but you would rather gate keep others from playing the decks and cards they like play. Rather pathetic to see from the winningest player around.
@gpcam1405
@gpcam1405 6 ай бұрын
What about lightning storm.Youre Daruma set is dogwater
@knowsage2429
@knowsage2429 6 ай бұрын
Cards that interact with more than 2 cards on the field should not exist
@JuanGonzalezZzZzZz...
@JuanGonzalezZzZzZz... 6 ай бұрын
Labrynth is a combo deck just as Manadium. Play furnutures, make +4 and set-up forever.
@leekyonion
@leekyonion 6 ай бұрын
Labrynth is not a combo deck wtf? You don't even really have a true combo line for big bodies. You're literally playing reactivity or pitching out traps turn 0 to stop plays.
@masterflamewing234
@masterflamewing234 6 ай бұрын
Trap cards should be phased out. They were meant for a game that took more than 2 turns
@ksiliana
@ksiliana 6 ай бұрын
I was against a paleozoic player that used karma cannon 5 turns in a row against me. Surely it needs skills.
@some2043
@some2043 6 ай бұрын
skill drain is the most skillful card ever just because one deck uses it degeneratly changes nothing
@eduardomora5244
@eduardomora5244 6 ай бұрын
Nah
@moate4498
@moate4498 6 ай бұрын
?????? ARE YOU CRAZY
@some2043
@some2043 6 ай бұрын
yes i am crazy , anyway unlike other floodgates you can't rely on it or auto win with it@@moate4498
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