Yu-Gi-Oh! Meta Analysis: May 2020! (Eternity Code)

[@dylanchambers5077]

Its Crazy how Shaddoll wasnt even noticed anymore after being predicted to be the best deck of the format.

[@amiibopimp852]

Good because I fucking hate shaddolls

[@dylanchambers5077]

AMIIBO PIMP I play them currently but I’m looking to play mermails now since I enjoy it more.

[@amiibopimp852]

"Ok"-Saitama

[@dylanchambers5077]

LIT GOD while it may be true they’re using expensive cards, I don’t think it means they’re necessarily bad players. They just didn’t have the deck. You still need the knowledge of how to play the decks to perform well. Granted they are pricey, I still think they earned the spots they deserved. No hate against you I just see it as you needed to be the better player with the better deck to win

[@dylanchambers5077]

AMIIBO PIMP you forgot the “...”

[@mugiwara4709]

"And there's Maldoche, that's a treat" Saw what you did there Cimo.....

[@hip2besquare632]

*madolche

[@jemtaylor3738]

Heh

[@jackachugaming]

Hey, I was the going 2nd Madolche player. Glad I was able to do well with my favorite deck. Didn't have the best showing in the feature match due to Nibiru, but hopefully until that point you could see how this deck can break boards with all the going 2nd cards and then otk.

[@inquisitrmikey7920]

Congratulations on your performance. Medolche was slept on probably because the top 2 Archetype is probably too powerful to stand up against. Day 109 waiting for Thunder Dragon Collosus 🐉⚡ to come to 1.

[@jackachugaming]

@@inquisitrmikey7920 Yeah if it was just yugioh without the secret slayer decks Madolche would be a lot better.

[@jameeljohnson19]

@@jackachugaming I wouldn't say that necessarily, because of these secret slayers decks, it effectively made people drop their hand trap count from 10-12 down to 3-6, and you're seeing alot less nibiru, all which really can hinder madolches access to it's key pieces. I play madolche and a rather play in this format purely because it's finally being discouraged from playing 10-12 hand traps which is an upside for the madolche players

[@maxigeiger4673]

jackachugaming damn boi I really like your deck list. Is the deck expensive? Beating my opponent with madolche is awesome

[@jackachugaming]

@@jameeljohnson19 Yeah, maybe that's true. Madolche is really weak to hand traps. But looking at a way easier to break board does just seem more appetising though.

[@Aaron_Heininger]

Playing pro yugioh has always been expensive dont kid yourself.

[@Quickbobhero]

2016, 2018, and 2019 were phenomenal years for budget players. Still, I agree, but those years (2019 in particular) should be a gold standard and not the exception.

[@orchidquack]

Quickbobhero 2018 was only ftks though

[@runningoncylinders3829]

There were decks you could compete with for 30 bucks. 3 SD ABC and Dino’s.

[@mohammedhussain6749]

Shadolls and online tournament are fairly budget.

[@Aaron_Heininger]

@@mohammedhussain6749 shaddolls are ruined in this metta without any need of getting hit. And sure koonami makes structure decks that poor people can get to play competitively but then they get hit and slowly they add expensive cards to them like dinos or pendulum magicians when they first introduced electrumite.

[@drearydoll6305]

Really the very fact that not many of the decks we saw play a lot of hand traps gave those madolche players an edge.

[@MaliEndz]

Board wipes or cards that affect the entire board are more in favor as of now

[@shadowdraqon2479]

MaliciousEndz, massive buff to FTK/handloop decks. No handtraps, but useless lightning storms/DRNM/evenly matched/etc vs burn for 8000 damage or entire hand getting eradicated

[@MaliEndz]

shadowdraqon exactly. This format is something else. Handtraps are pretty much useless except against the more rogue strategies. Dark ruler is probably the best out card right now and even that card still can be played around with a buster dragon lock

[@garyoak8014]

Mermail and adamancipator FTK: *Stonks!*

[@alfian4653]

Right, Madolche dies to a single handtrap lol

[@MrChillaxin2010]

As someone who's looking to play Muskets when the game starts to pick back up locally, i'm super curious how Musket Eldlich works/looks.

[@soup2504]

I can see the synergy but I feel like there isn't space for both

[@MrChillaxin2010]

HandSoap I found the deck list, the Musket package is 3 Caspar and Starfire, 1 Doc, 2 Desperado, Dancing Needle, Cross-Don, and 1 Last Stand. As well as 3 Max in the extra deck. The rest of the deck is Eldlich support.

[@Stephen__White]

@@MrChillaxin2010 That feels like a relatively weak Musket package, well more like just a weak showing for Muskets, if that makes any sense. Though my old build ran Ties to get extra field presence, and that would keep it from working with really anything else. To me Muskets feel like they shouldn't be splashed, even more so where if you ever find yourself with a bullet and no musketeer they just become bricks.

[@MrChillaxin2010]

@@Stephen__White kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX2Wnmp9YrdrmpY Here's the decklist if you were curious.

[@Stephen__White]

@@MrChillaxin2010 Fair enough, and maybe it's because I've not even seen Eldlich in action, but it just seems like the Magical Muskets would just be getting in the way more then they helped like you would have a fair chance to draw into a bullet without having any Musket to even use it. Kind of like playing Merfae with Ojama. Sounds great on paper, but in practice they just get in each others way. Though in this case I guess it did get top 4, so maybe it works better then it looks.

[@YuGiJoe1]

Hi Cimo, please could you include a link to my channel and the Facebook page which has these images included as a source reference? Thanks 😊

[@samtaro639]

Really enjoyed your segment on Madolche! Would you consider making an "Introduction to Madolche" video? I'm aware it's been a rogue deck for many years, but it would be great to see you cover how the strategy has evolved over the years. Great Video!

[@coleganster-soudi6065]

Am I the only one that wants to see the Eld Musket deck list or nah

[@MrChillaxin2010]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX2Wnmp9YrdrmpY Here it is.

[@coleganster-soudi6065]

@@MrChillaxin2010 my man thank you

[@leoornstein3963]

Golden bullet

[@mr.pyukumuku4692]

The current meta feels like a mine. It's filled with rocks and gold. Also I now feel more glad I pulled Linkross from my booster box. Just need Needlefiber.

[@Shinigamimon434]

Well, Shaddolls probably won’t get banned, but they have been power crept into irrelevancy...

[@MaliEndz]

I don’t think they are power crept but more that now everyone is online and have access to every card in existence. Once events come back , shadoll invoked will still be here since winda itself is still a win condition

[@machina5]

@@MaliEndz It's been power crept. Everyone is playing the decks that give them the best chance to top, and Shaddoll isn't it.

[@MaliEndz]

Machina18 thats not necessarily true because this still isn’t taking into consideration that once real life events pop back up, not everyone is going to drop $500-800 to build these same decks. The representation will go down and we are going to still see decks like salad, shaddoll, etc.

[@garyoak8014]

Jokes on you, dragma is getting winda banned.

[@justawarlord]

ohh hush salad got a win and shaddols didnt so your comment about huhu its not irl so they wont have the cards is bull invoked shaddol is more expensive then salad yet salad is still seeing play online

[@lpjohnn]

Man, I sure love this Eldlich "Engine" that costs as much as some other deck's core times 5, mhmm, it's so nice to be a budget player : ^ )

[@SkaalKesh]

With Madolche, really the game plan is resolve Tiaramisu. If she resolves, you basically win. As powerful as many of their other cards are, she is the nuclear warhead of the deck, dealing with boards like no other card can.

[@husseinmoussa2947]

do you have the plunder patroll deck profiles from the 3 % ? I would love to see them!

[@sirbedivere5670]

11:07 Should have been "If I'm going against the mirror, then screw this game, I need money in my main deck".

[@nickfiscella9267]

Drnm is dirt cheap compared to lightning storm, and lightning storm is pretty useless in the adamancipator mirror

[@sirbedivere5670]

@@nickfiscella9267 Opening Dark Ruler No More and Lightning Storm at the same time doesn't seem that useless to me. And the Lightning Storm is useless enough for the 1st place player to main deck it, so yeah, it's not that useless.

[@nickfiscella9267]

@@sirbedivere5670 by saying you need "money in my main deck for the mirror", you're suggesting lightning storm is good in the mirror If you just open dark ruler you can usually out an adamancipator board unless the have buster dragon 1st place player main'd lightning storm for eldlich

[@Threads_Of_Fate]

A few words on Appointer. You can use Exchange or Dragged Down to the Grave instead or aswell, exchange missing the card they draw for turn and dragged down missing the card they draw for turn and the card they draw off dragged down. Appointer was errated in an official PDF, back when that is how rulings were done, however the Yugioh cards database has the original wording of the card as that is its currently accepted wording. It is odd as it should have had PSCT update on the database if it was a deliberate errata, so it seems like the PDF errata was just forgotten about.

[@Americarnaud]

Is Madolche gonna be a Prankids/World Chalice 1 time thing or is it a serious meta contender ?

[@godsman00]

I'd say it'll be a serious contender. Madolche is an incredibly explosive combo deck so the power is there, but the deck in spite of its aggressive tendencies can be legitimate going first as well. Where I think it'll succeed where prankids and world chalice failed, however, is information. I personally believe that prankids, world chalice, and other decks that randomly topped were able to do so because their tactics/effects were previously unknown to the majority of players (especially when meta players tend to focus on preparing for matchups with other meta decks), so duelists likely got blindsided by the element of surprise. After their initial outing, players quickly adapted to expect these decks and they crumbled under a prepared force. Madolche is a deck that is a bit more well known, but has also flown under the radar so we can safely assume the surprise factor played a part here. Having said that, the deck is very versatile and well-rounded which is what makes it not so susceptible to being easily countered (although Nibiru remains the deck's achilles heel). Another thing to consider would be the Madolche player's ability to adapt and keep things fresh and dynamic, or just side deck very well. It's anyone's guess tbh, time will tell, but that's just my take. Cheers!

[@SpectralArrow]

Also , would totally love that eldlich musketeers profile

[@antlivesmatter4630]

Cimo - No other card does what Appointer of the Red Lotus Minstrel - ...

[@sleeplesswinter467]

Minstrel is WAY too deadly. It being a monster effect which in itself is much faster than appointer is even scarier. Both are an issue, but after seeing how fast Minstrel can get to your hand and played on turn one, that card really needs to be hit at some point

[@antlivesmatter4630]

Sleepless Winter I disagree because it requires the water discard and there aren’t many water decks in the meta other then mermaid (which I play) so I believe it’s balanced around the fact that it’s played in non meta decks

[@alexalexandrov1769]

Can u upload a tier list for the yugioh may format would be cool to see which decks are most competitive (:

[@sawyercooke]

This was a really good meta analysis! I love it when you compare/contrast the decklists

[@johnnywilson3071]

With the success of Madolche, I have hope for a deck that's very similar to it in terms of playstyle which is a deck called "Earth Machine Mash". Like Madolche its consistent (Metalcruncher, Infinitrack Dozer and Harvester setups), it sets up a wall that's super hard to overcome (Goliath Dora) and pivots into an OTK very quickly (Liebe Gustav) whilst also packing powerful disruption in the form of Citadel nukes and can dodge effects via Anger Knuckle.

[@jameeljohnson19]

Problem with this theory is that pettingcessour literally makes it impossible to cross madolche with any other arcetype

[@tizzano845]

I'm interested.

[@finnianfanning3136]

Appointer of the Red is really the only decent counter to something like Sphere Mode. Even if they have Superpoly, they have to chain to the activation and in which case they have to discard for cost and then you get to rip another too which is nice. Card is good.

[@luiszuniga6084]

YESSSS ROKKET LINK ISNT HERE! finally, I really love the rokket boards and one card combos (ft chamber dragonmaid and seyfert) I know its maybe the biggest of the format and the errata on Darkness Metal but still, maybe like this Konami wont kill Elpy and focus in other things, I hope so!

[@ArielTst]

I hope you're right haha

[@lamiaprincess6371]

How does the Linkross combo in that Eldlich deck work? I'm trying to work my head around it and I'm struggling to figure out exactly how the combo works. It seems like the best you can do in that deck is end on one negate, not two.

[@skailerderkonigderdiebe5499]

Due to the new splashability of Arc Light with Linkcross and Auroradon and the upcoming Dragma(ballz) archetype coming do you think Arc Light will end up in the banlist ?

[@danteforani4227]

Cards (i want) to be hit in the next banlist (Linkross is too new to be banned xd): Dragon Buster Destruction Sword (BANNED) Mecha Phantom Beast O-Lion (BANNED) T.G. Hyper Librarian (BANNED) Block Dragon (BANNED/LIMITED) Crystron Halqifibrax (LIMITED) Salamangreat Sunlight Wolf (Semi-Limited) I think the next cards dont deserve the previous hits so i give it some love: Heavymetalfoes Electrumite (back to 1) Denglong, First of the Yang Zing (back to 1) M-X-Saber Invoker (back to 1) Double Iris Magician (back to 1) ABC-Dragon Buster (back to 2) Toadally Awesome (back to 2) Zoodiac Raptier (back to 2) Zoodiac Barrage (back to 2) Dinowrestler Pankratops (back to 3) I know Konami needs money, and needs the people to buy the new packs, but some of the previous hits dont make any sense.

[@Eloharigaming8514]

sunlight wolf isnt even an issue and a semi limit is pointless. Salad is hardly the best deck this format.

[@DimensionalAlchemist]

I have been waiting for years to have Cimo speak about Maldoche. I can finally rest in peace. 🙏🏿

[@riptos0074]

Haha, I was topping with Madolche before the new support. Can't wait to do an event with the new stuff one day lol.

[@rosewarrior706]

I have faced adamancipator and these are the boards I faced avramax+ naturia beast+infinite negate combo and dweller Max apolosa+ borreload savage dragon equipped with destruction sword+ dweller and the rock bird synchro+ naturia beast And one had a herald synchro forgot which one but it was dumb and had to scoop

[@lovaliawolfie3126]

Fellow madolche players, our time as come. We take over meta now.

[@Jerry4281]

Can't wait to go to tourney's and drop all the money for these cards so my dinos can sack everyone at locals

[@GreaseMonkey097]

Lmao!!

[@x-treme4661]

Felt but I'm behind the curve haven't played since 2018 😅

[@WC_-yd9bb]

Combo decks are fun they should just make more of them so we don't only have one good option at any given time. If we had 5 or more combo decks that were all just as strong as adamancipators I don't think people would complain because there's diversity. That's the main thing I think the game needs not more bans but multiple tier 1 decks that are all just as powerful as the other. Every format there's like 2 decks that are the best and everyone plays them and then they get hit then two different decks are the best and so on. Give us more powerful options so there's diversity and people wouldn't get so annoyed by 1 or 2 decks that's the real problem. Everyone likes power no one want to play a weak deck just make more.

[@inquisitrmikey7920]

It was like that in 2019 when we had 4 tier 1 decks and like 4-6 tier 2 decks with tons of rogue decks competing. However the community kept complaining about it then Konami destroyed them with the ban list. The format is getting less diverse than before. Honestly the hits to decks was way too excessive and the option is very limited now.

[@Uchiha_Sasuke209]

i think a healthy amount of equaly strong combo and control deck like the last one with thundra striker orcust salad etc and some tier 2 deck was the best format in my oppinion.

[@kenzofromtheyu-gi-squad2601]

Always love these vids!

[@patrickkaranjeet5063]

Kenzo from the Yu-Gi-Squad transcode talker is the best code talker next to accesscode talker

[@kenzofromtheyu-gi-squad2601]

patrick karanjeet I see that you are cultured

[@patrickkaranjeet5063]

Kenzo from the Yu-Gi-Squad I play salad.

[@kenzofromtheyu-gi-squad2601]

patrick karanjeet Cool!

[@MorallyAmbigousEnby]

I always love it when yugioh turns into a very expensive dice rolling competition.

[@juvenileygo]

Not just block dragon, but every one card halqifibrax (before halqifibrax or linkross itself got hit). Sangan, jet synchron, and so on and on. Cons of not havin maxx c

[@jakeryker3751]

Man how the meta has shifted. I used to follow it closely and now I have no idea what most of these cards are.

[@femtohimself71]

I pulled a halqifibrax today... i have a darklord, crusadia, ninja, and kaiju deck... i can only really put it in crusadia right?

[@vparsa87]

One thing I really wish a youtube channel would make is what makes a fair combo deck and what makes an unhealthy combo deck.

[@mihaeltodorov9899]

so people like how salamgret get to be meta for over a year but not sky striker. i will take a note of that

[@nnnp634]

Sky Striker were dominant force, Salads win major tournaments as well but, rarely with biggest representation. And even though worlds should be the most prestigious event on paper, with the best duelists, I think (but might be wrong) people don't pay so much attention to it since number of players is relatively small and it consists of one event only banlist. And even if they cared, SS won the worlds as well :).

[@foolish4397]

Is ghost ogre still good? Or should I play veiler instead? (Don’t have copies of ash)

[@Zhyro00]

depends on the matchup, against adamancipator or eldlich neither do anything, but i guess you can ogre a baelyinx?

[@antonypistachio5476]

Ash and Imperm are much better and with Ash's reprint they're not too hard to come by.

[@joegarino2207]

Does anyone know where we can sign up for the online tournaments mentioned?

[@DarkRuler-138]

Liked for the Madolche pun

[@tomsaer705]

Played in the YOS, went X-2 in the first two rounds lol. But great event, shoutout to Joe for organising it, he's a dedicated guy!

[@tylergiles6801]

After the quarantine is done you should do a video about how to find tournaments and competitions near you because I need to know where I can find some so that I can compete

[@mariorovira3639]

So adamantia isn’t rogue and shadoll invoked isn’t the best deck cimoo?

[@silverfang4583]

No one thought adamantia was good when it was first revealed

[@silverfang4583]

@Ebony Samurai people were not sure how consistent the hit would be as they weren't entirely sure how many good rocks There was a time everyone wasn't sure if it was like spyral pre link Or if it was like spyral post link So people didn't want to put it too high without results

[@silverfang4583]

@Ebony Samurai my entire point is no one wanted to put them high on the tier list when they were sure of consistency

[@AkamexAris1023]

Knew ETCO would help boost my Madolches! Very excited they're performing well. Trust me Cimo... they'll be more than just a one weekend wonder. They're here for this format 👀👀

[@shakeweller]

I think Adamancipator is fine, I think Destruction Sword is the problem. And maybe Block Dragon, which would be fine too if it was opt

[@Zhyro00]

The problem with adamancipator is that they are way to generic for what they can do, the whole diggin for rock thing would be fine if they were limited to their own archetype, but they can literally ss any card from its type from the deck so what was supposed to be a fun gimmick were you summon garnets from the deck for synchro plays became "Just add any rock type extender and throw up your entire deck into the board for no cost" and considering the tuners ss themselves from hand they are also extenders, turning it into the first combo deck ive seen that its almost impervious to handtraps, so yeah.. open DRNM or scoop that aint healthy, and thats without considering the fact that now konami has screw themselves over since now they cant even print decent cards from an underrepresented type because adamancipator can ss them

[@jameeljohnson19]

@@Zhyro00 but this hopefully also goes to show people that hand traps aren't the only way to go 2nd, sometimes going the route of breaking the board is better than trying to prevent a board from being made

[@sigurdvickery3523]

The issue with Block Dragon really isn't really that it can be summoned multiple times, the issue is that it goes +3 when it leaves the field. It allows Adamancipator to actually play in the late game, instead of being more similar to Pendulum where it kind of dies if you break their board.

[@shakeweller]

@@sigurdvickery3523 We have to ditch the thought of Combodecks being glass cannons. Recursive Combo Decks are a thing now.

[@Uchiha_Sasuke209]

@@shakeweller i dont think this is a good idea if u make a deck which has a strong early and late game there is litterally no point at which you can beat them besites with side decks. I rather have combo decks as a break my board style with less follow up and control decks with a weaker board but more follow up instead of both combined in one.

[@sebguy4546]

I run unizomibie in eldlich to get golden lord in the graveyard and the deck doesn’t need its normal summon plus it’s a turner for needle fiber. It’s also a zombie so bonus

[@maxigeiger4673]

That 50 card Maldolche player is incredible

[@foolishygo8875]

What is system down for in the side deck?

[@guilhermemarinho9861]

I can already see people begging for Linkcross to be banned. Even if it just came out. Also, Block Dragon will finally be banned thanks to Adamancipators......Good.

[@number-qx1kw]

Block dragon will finally join his dragon ruler brothers

[@guilhermemarinho9861]

@@number-qx1kw Except Tempest

[@kevyndelcastillo9764]

Where can we watch this tourney that you commented??

[@Bearlord771]

Welcome to high roll format

[@Magicapplegaming]

what is the trap in the side for the salamangreat in slots 10-13

[@epiclegion7557]

Lucas The III dimensional barrier I believe is the card

[@bastilleday6783]

Tyler Bird yes

[@NibiruOnTwitch]

I like the triple nib in maindeck hehe

[@maouzen7109]

I wonder if anybody will use or have used power giant in adamancipator as a tech option.

[@gambino9032]

So with main deck Dark Ruler being a thing, should the going-first decks start maining Solemn Judgment to combat that?

[@rangerbob6474]

Daniel Gambino wouldn’t be a bad option since it also stops lightning storm

[@inquisitrmikey7920]

Probably so since Red Reboot is still limited so the odds are stacked heavily against the going 2nd players. Red Reboot and Pankratops shouldn't have gotten limited.

[@VORTEX___]

tbh this format analysis is a shock to me. please, lets have a decent june 1 banned list so the competitive meta can become somewhat fun again

[@LesGrosPiedsDeDeejay]

I miss late 2019 and early 2020 metas. There was more than 3 meta decks back then

[@mathunit1]

@@LesGrosPiedsDeDeejay Bullshit.

[@angelreyes8714]

@@mathunit1 Thunder Dragon, Sky Striker, Orcust, Pendulums, Heroes, True Draco, Rokkets..... may I continue?

[@esbernhawkins5912]

6:05 "But frankly, this card needs a reprint" I think what you meant to say is "But frankly, this card should be put to 0 ASAP because cards that allow you to see your opponent's entire hand and likely cut off their only possible out to a multi-interruption board for practically no cost have historically been, and will always be, bullshit."

[@timothyswindler3397]

Esbern Hawkins well there is a card that Does that, but it’s banned, the thing with appointer, you have to pay up 1/4 of your LP and you only take one card out of their hand

[@ludovicbertrand8296]

Since when paying 2k for a omni negate combo deck which makes you want to alt f4 matters?

[@CDolph296]

It can’t stop hand traps.

[@Uchiha_Sasuke209]

ah yes paying 2k and reveiling 1 card in your hand. That is a very hard drawback to handloop your opponents best card against your board and meanwhile gaining knowledge of their hand so you know what to negate and what not. Seems like a fair card to me Kappa

[@sagemasters6367]

Team Sam came up with meta breaking decks post eternity code and master rule 5

[@Noobkiller313]

pot of extravagance and ash blossom in madolche.. imagine losing all 3 queens. i hope that +2 wasnt messengelato

[@HelloJack39]

Are rokkets still good?

[@RoreyG]

So are Shaddoll Invoked and Rokket Dragon Link dead?

[@timothyswindler3397]

Rorey Gaya no, but everyone’s hyping the secret slayers decks but they’re still good decks

[@Juan-wh1vu]

You know things get out of control when 3 dark ruler no more become a staple in almost every deck

[@romavalon2525]

Only 2 decks are viable this format. What an exciting format! /s

[@philliamjefferstein3644]

that’s how most formats go

[@ramaroy2408]

Do you remember zoodiac format?

[@harryc657]

Where online are these tournaments taking place?

[@Zylefer]

This is all true for adamancipator IF you go 1st, going second CAN go badly if you're going against dino

[@ramaroy2408]

But Dino main is going second deck. Sure you can probably win the 1st match but the 2nd and 3rd match adamancipator going to kill Dino with their side deck. And Dino going first is really fragile against hand traps.

[@Zylefer]

@@ramaroy2408 yah, I just saying if they mix you up and they go first

[@johanmrch9316]

Do a "We Dueled Using Only...." episode, with custom cards from dueling book :)

[@PhysicalMediaLife]

Hey cimoooooooo the new set has some great cards in it but the pull ratio is different it promises ten secrets but I only got two secrets can that be right from the UK 🇬🇧 and a long time fan

[@ragedrock5945]

I disagree with Block Dragon being banned, personally I think I:P Masquerena should be banned while block dragon should be limited.

[@admontblanc]

you should only play 1 dragon anyway, and limiting it doesn't do shit, masq is fine

[@ragedrock5945]

@@admontblanc No, you play 3, have a look at any topping version right now, including the one shown in this video... Also Masq is not fine, the issue with block dragon is being able to use it not only on your turn, but also being able to use it to make an apollousa on your opponents turn and get the search effect off again, banning Masq fixes that.

[@admontblanc]

@@ragedrock5945 people playing 3x are degenerate idiots tbh, don't care about their credentials. They're the type that once the deck gets hit they move on to whatever will be tier 1 because they're just good at with decks that have no hits and play at full consistency power (save rare exceptions), but you don't need 3 at all. Same for those maining 3x DRNM and asking why their excavates are missing left and right.

[@ragedrock5945]

@@admontblanc Ok I am officially confused on what you're talking about. People who play 3 are degenerate idiots? Wow that's closed minded, ever think people might just want to play the best version of the deck? Also what's wrong with people only playing tier 1 decks, it may not be how you enjoy the game but everyone's free to play however they like. Also the 3 DRNM are in a direct response to not being able to play through multiple negations, I don't personally main it in my build however the reasoning on why is sound. Absolutely nothing you said had any relevance to the initial point made and instead was just a character attack, how about bringing up examples and evidence instead of just insulting people?

[@admontblanc]

@@ragedrock5945 nothing wrong with that, they just playing more of a card you need only 1, which is verifiably dumb. But anyone is free to build a deck poorly.

[@noodlesauce7662]

What's that Trap Card in the Salamangreat Deck, next to Impermanence?

[@Chimeratech_O.D.]

Cynet Conflict.

[@Aaron_Heininger]

Well i got most of the eternity code stuff i wanted and I'm in California.

[@hero_triple3796]

You know something is broken when velier is used as a TUNER

[@sloumagamer277]

Where is my sky striker ???

[@Richard.L.Charles]

really surprised not seeing access code talker

[@xJIN86x]

Are going to act like Cimo didn't make that Madolche is a treat pun.....

[@Dkdude9892]

I actually really like your shirt Cimo - Totally buying one

[@nathanielg4]

why Block dragon should be Bann for? True Draco Dynamite should be unlimited

[@enricowicaksana8060]

where I can watch the duel? I really want to see madolche playstyle

[@Balila_balbal_loki]

cryston with linkross shouldnt exist in the same format if you had to hit either hitting cryston makes more sense it should at least be limited like the OCG until then ill run it in every deck i play it is stupid easy to take advantage of it heck shadolls get a free winda + 3 counter appalousa just because of him

[@Zhyro00]

most people only run 1 needlefiber, limiting it would be pointless

[@buonvecchiocharlie7507]

At first it was "Needlefiber can't coexist with summon sorceress", well, summon sorceress was banned even before the Needlefiber TCG release. Then it was the same with synchro Ib, Glow up bulb, Steam the cloack... I think they even banned Destrudo because of it. Now It can't coexist with Linkross or Auroradon. You get my point.

[@Balila_balbal_loki]

@@Zhyro00 adamantia combo which is basically azathot lock 2.0 rn. 1 needlefiber = you opponent cannot activate anything and they can't even respond to the synchro summon because that lvl 12 synchro is a spell speed 4 teamsamurai posted the combo.

[@Άρης7]

Is building a Shaddoll Invoked deck in May 2020 worth it?

[@MaliEndz]

I mean its still good

[@Άρης7]

@@MaliEndz i bought Shaddoll Showdown x3 and I dont know if it is worth to expend on the invoked engine and support cards like cross sheep , because i dont see it so often now

[@MaliEndz]

Άρης 000 invoked engine is splashable but has potential of getting hit on a future banlist. If you are worried about it, pick up the trickstar engine for shaddolls its still pretty good and I enjoyed playing that version of it. Shaddoll is still a good deck, don’t let the online results affect your choice too much. Remember, representation of these decks will go down because not alot of people are willing to spend $500-$800 to have a playable build.

[@Άρης7]

@@MaliEndz okay thanks now i have a full opinion about it. For now i am gonna enjoy my duels with my brother ( pure shaddoll vs six samurai ) and eventually i will purchase the invoked or trickstar engine

[@zwiz2023]

I know for sure Adams are gonna get hit on block dragon idk if they will hit eldlich maybe limit scarlet

[@abdulaschka6221]

I dont think they are going to hit eldlich directly. They might hit invoked though. The decks been good since 2017 and its not only played in eldlich but also in shaddolls

[@Zhyro00]

@@abdulaschka6221 There was more representation from pure eldlich tho, dont ge me wrong invoked is good, but its about as good as running flodgates in eldlich specifically

[@R1pGently]

I think that block dragon should be limited so that the adamanicpator player can still use it(or abuse it) but it will be a bit harder to hard draw and the opponent can still banish it with called by the grave or DD crow without having to worry about a second copy

[@joshdavis6830]

Block Dragon, Jet Synchron, and Linkross get banned. That's my guess.

[@katzuma7641]

And people didn’t think madolche would be meta

[@Zylefer]

Wait, what happens if they limit block dragon, so people main deck called by the grave (since that's been a thing for a while, or at least siding it)

[@ramaroy2408]

Adamancipator have too much extender and probably they already make Herald by the time they use Block dragon. BD at one won't stop or slow adamancipator they can just negate your cards by the time BD hit the field.

[@ChadKakashi]

Ban-worthy cards: Red Reboot Scythe Dragon Buster Block Dragon Appointer I'm open to suggestions.

[@POLARIS221]

Red Reboot why tho? Needlefiber must be banned

[@thiccupcake]

Scythe is ok

[@ChadKakashi]

@@thiccupcake Scythe is turn ending, it's unhealthy for the game.

[@ChadKakashi]

@@POLARIS221 because it's turn ending for control decks, it's also limited so it's sacky which makes it even worse when you lose against it. Needlefiber is a new card, Konami wouldn't ban it so soon.

[@zentecson7415]

@@ChadKakashi I think he knows that, but the list is asking for all ban worthy cards, including the crystron link.

[@ripteargaming600]

Adamancipator and Eldlich when ban list season rolls around: I’m in danger

[@swompy8127]

All my Yugioh buddies laugh at me because I run madolche now look we are sitting on the meta. Now all we need is a madolche hand trap that negates and shuffles back to deck please make it happen!!!

[@alfian4653]

Nah, they need another starter/extender that can special puddingcess as level 4 or attach puddingcess to their xyz. Right now, a single negate on petingcesseour kills their whole combo

[@lorenzogandolfi]

That format was meant to spam godlike, but the only deck that does it in an incredibly efficient way’s andmancipator... Banlist????

[@MrAnimeLover1]

Bruhyoly Too soon for a banlist.

[@bolobre4th]

Appointer is already confirmed in battles of legend i think

[@Pub_Squash]

What's up with shaddolls? Why is no one playing them post master 5?

[@TheUnique69able]

Pub_Squash because they’re bad and just not meta

[@melvinbrookins6313]

madolche is a real deck and thats not even its final form.. going first it can put up an incredibly strong board to follow up with an easy otk

[@kenetik13]

Invoked HERO is a dark horse

[@kish45]

I think for the next banlist Thunder Dragon Colossus should get unbanned to 1. Also I am going to be pissed if Phoenix God Gearfried is not released in the Chaos toon pack.

[@reydoncarlos]

Colossus will stay banned cause nemesess corridor is a card plus it's too strong for its summoning condition so yeah no unban

[@kish45]

Thomas Withöft ok then they should ban Needlefiber and unban Master peace.

[@inquisitrmikey7920]

@@reydoncarlos it's at one in the OCG and no one is really playing that. Collosus is still a pain in the dick but with 1 Collosus it's easier to deal now more than ever. However 2-3 Collosus is absolutely ridiculous and shouldn't be allowed. I played Thunder Dragons and going against Collosus in a mirror match is the bain of my existence.

[@EJsGameplay]

Wow, a whole 5 secs to Dinos, how generous of you...

[@osirisygo9870]

Oh god. Jet synchron is gonna get hit on the next ban list.

[@POLARIS221]

It's shocking I don't see Shaddoll Invoked

[@hip2besquare632]

Dzeef must be happy