YuGiOh Player Rates Classic Magic Cards

Are blue cards always good?
Leoni and Anika play Staple or Stinker as Leoni tries to guess how good these 5 Magic Cards are and is blown by the fact, that everything in MTG is a spell.
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[@CardmarketMagic]

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[@benkubisiak1459]

Putting Mox Amber as a stinker seems unfair. Sure it's not been a staple in a large number of formats but it's seen a lot of play in combo decks in historic.

[@joeldykman7591]

its borderline a commander staple, not as good as jeweled lotus, but obviously a free roll in most decks looking for a little extra conditional ramp.

[@sirrobot7784]

Historic 😂

[@yeturs69420]

Grizzly bears is a draft staple. Why isn't it here m

[@mrsnufflegums]

I agree. It's no staple, but it certainly isn't a stinker. It has fringe modern and pioneer play, good in historic, and practically a staple up there with sol ring, mana crypt, arcane signet and jeweled lotus in commander. Particularly if your commander is cheap.

[@LolindirElros]

I think is just a symptom of the video format: having staple or stinker is more appealing than having a 4 or 5 tier system for this. And, as they mentioned on the video, they are definitely not talking about edh, where it would be a staple. But any other formats, calling it a staple is kinda out there. I think they tend to pick this specific mox is just a way of talking about the expectations that a mox carries with the name vs the actual og moxes. So mostly used as a conversational piece, mor than actually thinking it's a stinker, but needs to be called that within this video format.

[@ClubbingSealCub]

It's always funny seeing people try to wrap their minds around one with nothing

[@casteanpreswyn7528]

I still think it's one of the best cards ever printed. Mainly cause I love Madness and especially now with Bone Miser.

[@sethb3090]

I wish they'd talked about the one weird time when it was competitive viable vs a deck that did damage based on the number of cards in the opponent's hand

[@casteanpreswyn7528]

@@sethb3090 "my spell will deal 7 damage to you, cause you have 7 cards in hand", "I cast One With Nothing". Spell fizzles and turn is passed.

[@slimyfister]

@@casteanpreswyn7528 there are better cards, like lions eye diamond, or even bomat courier, to do the exact same thing. Honestly it's already powercrept out before it began. It's also better just to run discard outlets like putrid imp.

[@SoupOrNothing]

@@casteanpreswyn7528 spell doesn't fizzle it deals 0 damage

[@johnvrecenar9076]

As soon as she said "three volleyballs" I started dying.

[@HollywoodModelling]

Wait... are you saying Mox Amber is not a staple? This thing is insane... it's at 40 Dollars now... it's played in modern...

[@Rodinj10]

Also doesn't make sense to restrict this to modern or whatever. If it's a staple in commander, it's a staple

[@loxeggcheese]

Is it really a modern staple though? It seems a bit inconsistent to be played universally. I could see it being good w t1 ragavan, or maybe in affinity? Seems like so much potential to be a dead draw and do a lot of decks run efficient legends outside of ragavan? Maybe it’s played in legacy paradoxical outcome? I’m genuinely curious tho, I’d be v interested to hear why I’m wrong!

[@MineRoyale.]

@@loxeggcheese There is a very good combo deck in modern right now that uses Mox amber. You play it from the graveyard over and over with grinding station and underworld breach in order to mill your deck and play thassa's oracle to win.

[@TheJacklikesvideos]

the card was clearly designed for commander. it's not a "stinker." it doesn't really belong in the video.

[@saramuoz]

It also facilitated the most broken standard deck with Kethis while both were legal. This card has been and still is a staple in multiple formats.

[@danni3387]

3:12 "This guy looks like he has three volleyballs spawned out of his head" -- I love that we all know exactly what card it is

[@Arcticsharpshooter]

Yep! :D And I appreciated how production didn't immediately list the cards, but rather only after their names were read. It gave some fun opportunity to try to guess their names, which was a blast with this one :D

[@PharaohofAtlantis]

Cards ideas for future segments: -Thalia, Guardian of Thraben -Sneak Attack -Doom Whisperer -Ephemerate -Master Warcraft -Glorious End -Arboreal Grazer -Thassa's Oracle I don't remember every card that has been on this show, but I think these would be fun to have people guess.

[@nicolocuzzocrea]

These are great suggestions!

[@michelemichienzi934]

Great list! I would also like to see bitterblossom sooner or later

[@CardmarketMagic]

We're putting some of these on our list for next one! 😃

[@awesomeguy5451]

great picks

[@wurgel1]

Hmm... was barren glory used yet? If not, do so, but it's original version. The Cheese Stands Alone.

[@jjjjrrrrmmmm123]

Ratings are a bit weird gift ungiven is no longer a staple but mox amber is seeing play in all formats it's legal in. Even if it isn't "top tier"

[@talamran7499]

I get why gifts counts as a staple but I do agree that mox amber is very good, I saw it in more than one combo decks already, those were good decks and it was their best card.

[@johnf9710]

Yeah. It wasn't a good include for a line up like this. In most decks, it's useless, but can be busted in right deck.

[@Arcticsharpshooter]

Absolutely well noted. I don't understand how Mox Amber isn't a staple. It's played in so many different decks in pretty much all formats where it's legal (even historic), and it's the most expensive (read wanted) card in its set. Yes, it requires a specific deck build, but doesn't Gifts Ungiven require it too, for instance? Makes me wonder how Cardmarket defines staple then.

[@LolindirElros]

@@johnf9710 wouldn't you say the same about almost any card that's not outright bad (like one with nothing for example) though? The fact stands tho, not a good one to showcase staple vs stinker, but I understand them wanting to mention a _bad_ mox..

[@johnf9710]

@@LolindirElros You answered your own question. It's neither a staple or stinker, and is especially odd as a 60+ US card. Something like Mox Tantalite would have been a better fit as a stinker.

[@nekrataali]

The other thing about Standstill is that it triggers every time someone plays a spell because of how it's worded. You can't cast a spell, then respond to Standstill's trigger on the stack with something like Notion Thief because it will just cause Standstill to trigger again. The only way to beat Standstill is to just trigger it immediately and accept that your opponent gets to draw three cards for 1U. Otherwise, they'll lock you out with countermagic and manlands.

[@ichVII]

It does say "play". If you can deal with it with an activated abilated, triggered ability, spell cast from exile or GY, or the cycling effect of a card, you can get rid of it without him drawing three cards.

[@nekrataali]

@@ichVII Yes, but very few decks play non-spell ways of getting rid of enchantments, especially in formats where Standstill sees play. Kami of Ancient Law is the perfect answer to Standstill. However, it's a worse option than something like Force of Vigor or Abrupt Decay when deciding on what to play in your 75. Again, what makes Standstill nuts is that it might as well be a sorcery that reads "1U: Draw three cards" in the decks that play it.

[@JonaxII]

@@nekrataali Channel Boseju is a new card that actually can deal with it and sees decent play

[@DualSwordBesken]

@@ichVII Almost, casting spells from the graveyard or exile will still trigger Standstill. It saying "play" is just a symptom of it being so old now. It's current text is "when a player casts a spell", so it really doesn't care where the spell was cast from. As pointed out, Boseiju is a recent answer that is just perfect for dealing with Standstill.

[@OtisJCW]

@@JonaxII I Blay UW "Sharkstill" in legacy and Boseju is indeed one of the most common way people answer standstill without letting me draw 3. The other way is to "pop" it during my end step when I have 7 cards, putting me to 10 cards right before my discard step. However this still often isn't the best bet because letting the game drag out that long is almost always in my favour. The main way I get totally destroyed through standstill is Urza's Saga or dark depths combo, since they are just lands with activated abilities.

[@DreamPurpleFloyd]

I'm suprised the YGO player didn't think about Painful Choice while rating Gifts Ungiven. Very similar designs that are way more powerful than they look.

[@KariThomasMiller]

Thats immediately what I thought, though if I understand correctly, graveyard shennanigans in Magic arent quite as strong as they are in YuGiOh Still seemed really strong though

[@DreamPurpleFloyd]

@@KariThomasMiller They are, just in a different way. The thing with mtg is that everything has a mana cost. And depending on that, the same effect can be playable or not. At 4 manas Gifts Ungiven is a good card, at 8 it would be unplayable and at 1 or 2 it would be busted. In ygo spell cards don't have any cost (unless specified on the card), that's the big difference. If Painful Choice had a restriction saying 'you can't play it during your first and second turn of the game', it would be way less busted.

[@lolface_9363]

@@DreamPurpleFloyd I mean technically the “cost” in painful choice is the 4 other cards that go to the GY but that’s basically a benefit

[@KiloShank]

That was immediately what I thought of but couldn't remember the cards name. Is it still as powerful without yatagurasu and the dragon that deletes everyone's hand?

[@MrMarnel]

I think Leoni isn't a very old player and mostly plays on Master Duel. Painful Choice has been banned for years now, it's likely she's never even heard of the card.

[@isaacsmith3998]

Including Mox Amber seems unfair because it is certainly not a "stinker". TBH I would actually consider it closer to a staple, since in Commander, it has a lot more utility and belongs in MANY decks. Plus, it costs like 50 dollars. EDIT: loved the episode! definitely will watch more. Keep up the great work both of you.

[@elaphar]

It's also splashed for free in some top decks like Ragavan midrange, Affinity and is played in most Underworld breach combos in modern... It's not the most important piece in any deck, but is simply good enough or better than most options...

[@dboeify]

I agree. Its been seen in multiple modern and pioneer lists, this card is definitely a staple. It may not be as ubiquitous as mox diamond or chrome mox, but it definitely sees far more consistent play as compared to something like mox tantalite

[@UniGya]

I’m disappointed in Leoni for not immediately recognizing Gifts Ungiven as Painful Choice. The only thing that she should have had to consider was the mana cost lol

[@kenshisanki]

First thing I thought

[@JamesABloomfield]

Painful Choice was banned 18 years ago, anyone who is a newer player and has never played historical formats isn't likely to have come across it. (FWIW, I'm surprised that "painful choice but costs 4" is still a good card, I thought it would end up being too expensive)

[@Zanji1234]

look at how long Painful Choice is banned :D i bet she didn't play back then

[@UniGya]

@@Zanji1234 you don't have to play with Painful Choice to understand how broken it is, you just have to play the game for a reasonable amount of time and see how strong sending a bunch of cards to the graveyard from your deck is, especially when you get to choose the cards

[@Zanji1234]

@@UniGya don't tell me that :-D tell it to her. Tbh. it took a while until Painful choice was played at all after it came out

[@lanibentz9976]

Yugioh players when they learn what fail to find is, gives me life

[@Rioluman10]

For a short period of Yu-Gi-Oh's history, you could search but fail to find.

[@lanibentz9976]

@@Rioluman10 wait how did that work. From what I understood, if something can’t resolve, it just can’t be cast, preventing fail to find

[@valdemarjrgensen8128]

I played blue/white tron in modern back in the day, the deck won with a gifts package. It was always fun to explain failure to find to new players. I still remember once when playing with an opponent in the LCS that was kindda of known to be a bit of a dick, so it was hard not to pull his leg a bit. - I resolve gifts - Proceeds to find only two cards (unburial rites and Iona, he was one mono red burn) - "Ey you have to find 4 cards!" Him - "Nah, sorry man I couldn't" Me - "What do you mean you couldn't?" Him - "I mean I failed to find 4 cards of different names in my deck" Me - "JUDGE!" Him - "What seems to be the problem?" Judge - "He only found 2 cards, it says he has to find 4" him - "Sorry judge, couldn't find the rest" Me - "His deck can't be legal if he doesn't have more different cards than that, check his deck" Him - Judge checks deck - "This deck is legal" judge - "Then he has to find 4 cards!" Him - "Not if he can't find any more cards" Judge - "Then that deck can't possibly be legal!" Him - "The deck is legal" Judge - Grumble grumble concede Same dude refused to scoop when I had him in a mindslaver lock and even the judge had a hard time explaining that the dude would no longer have the opportunity to take any game actions, and since I could demonstrate the loop, I had won. He insisted on us going through every turn with him getting milled one card at a time, so we would tie as we ran out of time.

[@anon2447]

Fair enough, but then we get that reaction from you guys when we have to explain missing the timing to you :D

[@Tsukasa-TheWizard]

@@anon2447 To be fair, Missing Timing is one of the worst designed... ANYTHINGS in a game. "Just know the rules! :)))"

[@EgXP]

Just a quick comment, saying that you guys are doing great and that I'd love to see more of these 🙂.

[@orian3638]

Series is called "staple or stinker", first card is neither a staple nor a stinker Impressive to fuck up with a concept so simple

[@maxwornowizki422]

Love the positive Spirit, keep it up!

[@ericksherman2007]

I love hearing Anika talk! Such a friendly, calm delivery. I hope I deliver judge rulings as evenly as she delivers “nopes” to incorrect guesses.

[@lugarial]

Mox amber see plays in Urza decks, and in the quite good Underworld breach deck in modern... I don't get the stinker either. Maybe not a staple, but quite stong

[@axeleverttv]

It could be played in pretty much every Commander deck since your commander will always fit the requirements.

[@ClubbingSealCub]

A card being played in one very specific deck doesn't make it a staple.

[@fabulous_finn7810]

Even before the grinding station deck its a staple in almost all formats it is legal in. Such a weird call.

[@sjdhrjrjejdhdhsh]

@@ClubbingSealCub doesn't make it a stinker either

[@CardmarketMagic]

It only sees play in decks that are very rarely played. It's definitely not a bad card! But by all the metrics we are going by for this game, it does count as a stinker :) if we called every card that we occasionally play a Staple, these videos would get stale really fast 😅

[@antonsackley5514]

Do Lion's Eye Diamond. It's incredibly counterintuitive how powerful it is.

[@CardmarketMagic]

It's going on the list for the next one! Great suggestion!

[@Greg_Ulmer]

Which makes it an unfair inclusion in a video like this lol

[@MisterGunpowder257]

It is worth noting, however, that in One With Nothing's Standard format, it was played in the sideboard of almost every deck that had access to black mana. This is because one of the core decks at the time was a deck that dealt damage to you for every card in your hand, and went out of its way to stuff your hand full so you were taking a *crapton* of damage each time it triggered. One play of One With Nothing, though, and usually you had just hard countered that deck. It still occasionally pops up, especially in Commander.

[@jensklingenmaier1745]

Uhm what card in ravnica/mirrodin did that o.o

[@MisterGunpowder257]

@@jensklingenmaier1745 Wasn't in either; it was in the same block as One With Nothing. My mistake, though: It only dealt 4 damage for having 7 or more cards in hand. The card is Ebony Owl Netsuke, and was played in combination with Howling Mine (which was in standard at the time, too) to fill someone's hand and then kill them rapidly. The combo was called Owling Mines. But One With Nothing hard countered it; after all, it dropped your hand flatly down below the necessary threshold, and you just had to play out your deck and you'd never hit the threshold again.

[@Kreas_me_wmo_lipos]

I LOVE the way Anika sells these cards as good, she's got this down. Trying to "defend" one with nothing by itself is a feat on its own

[@Lord_Khan]

One with nothing is Magic's best worst card. Rhystic Studies classic

[@oberlin27]

Like, it just SEEMS like there should be something there. OBVIOUSLY if there's cards that interact with the graveyard, then being able to load the graveyard is good, RIGHT? It just baffles me that the card manages to still be bad with all the graveyard synergies.

[@therealax6]

​@@oberlin27 The thing about graveyard synergies is that there are much better options. There are many cards that let you discard a card at instant speed for any random effect you probably don't care about - you still get the desired effect of discarding cards, but you don't have to lose your entire hand. (And if you do want to lose your entire hand, there's Lion's Eye Diamond in the formats that allow it.)

[@allstatejake]

loved the chemistry between the ladies and they were both very excited and looked like they were having fun with the experience of learning.

[@DreamPurpleFloyd]

I'd love Goblin Guide to be discussed. I think it's an excellent design that might not be that obvious for a beginner player.

[@CardmarketMagic]

That's a great one! Putting it on the list!

[@naphackDT]

Good example of red card advantage: opponent is dead with 7 cards in hand.

[@TheTrashMob]

As allways, great video. I love this format. Here are some more suggestions: Savannah Lions Meek Stone Jester's Cap Balduvian Horde Titania's Song Ice Cauldron Tin-Wing Chimera (Visions Chimeras in general) Chronartog Jester's Mask Tefiri's Puzzlebox Polar Kraken Phyrexian Dreadnought Lord of the Pit Nethershadow

[@yoshimitsu5537]

Oooh, Meekstone. That's a good one!

[@nekrataali]

Oh man that's a hard list considering how many of those were staples and now don't see play because of power creep.

[@CardmarketMagic]

Meekstone is an absolutely fantastic suggestion! :D it's going straight on the list along with a few others your suggested

[@TheTrashMob]

@@nekrataali I played alot in the early days and those where the cards I have until today. Even if there is no usage for them today, I still have a soft spot for most of them.

[@DWKCmusic]

Meek stone and jester's cap giving so much nostalgia

[@zurreal8087]

Thank you for making these! They are consistently entertaining and very accessible!

[@minabasejderha5972]

Gifts Ungiven is an interesting pick because it has such a direct parallel in Yugioh that is, incidentally, perhaps the best card in the game.

[@eriks_trip]

Great video as always! However, I disagree about the rating of Mox Amber. I totally understand what was meant by its status as a stinker, since it's not nearly as powerful or ubiquitous as people worried it might be when it came out. According to MTGGoldfish, it sees fringe play in Modern as either fast mana or a combo piece, and I know I've seen it in a Pioneer league once. Mox Amber isn't useful for most decks, but it's no Aurelia's Fury!

[@nartin9]

I agree I was like wtf how is it a stinker. sure not a staple but not a stinker.

[@williamscerbo458]

It's played in Pioneer kinnan paradox combo and it's great in commander. I wouldn't call it a staple or a stinker, just a situational card that's good where it fits.

[@CardmarketMagic]

As you said yourself in your comment, it only sees very fringe play in both modern and pioneer. It's, by all definition we are going by for the game, a Stinker. It does not mean the card is bad though :) but if we called every card we like a staple, these videos would be terribly dull :P

[@kkokay4]

​@@CardmarketMagicthat card is definitely good in commander, and much closer to staple than stinker lol. It is 70 $ cad ...

[@jakethereaper2060]

im kinda shocked she didnt think of one of the contenders for one of the most powerful spell card in Yu Gi Oh "Painful Choice" surprised she didnt draw parallels to that and "Gifts Ungiven"

[@Vearru]

Idk about including mox amber in this list at all. It’s probably closer to a staple than a stinker, but it is way too in between to actually call it one or the other. As someone who has played mtg for quite a while I would call it a very good card. It’s certainly not the best by any means but I don’t think there will ever be a time when it’s not in any top deck in any format. There will always be more and more powerful legendaries printed, so the card naturally scales with power creep. I think it will always be a viable include in decks.

[@yoshimitsu5537]

This is my favorite series on either channel. I love watching people uncover secrets that I discovered back in the day and also learning new ones myself. I would be fascinated to see "Unspeakable Symbol" on the show.

[@matthewsebesta3330]

I want an opinion on Hogaak, Arisen Necropolis 😂 the "can't spend mana" clause might sound tricky

[@lugarial]

Keep going this ratings, I like them :) For the next time I'd see Elvish reclaimer or Knight of the reliquary on the show !

[@sarpedon702]

I love these videos!

[@JonnMcDude]

Stuffy Doll is amazing in at least one format: Commander in a voltron deck.

[@Schinkenwilli]

Can we see more of this? I really like this format!

[@mbalazs3544]

more of this pls wish this ware in playlist :D

[@MadisonM1996]

Creatures being spells makes sense. They used to be called "summon creature" cards. Its like conjuration magic in The Elder Scrolls or other role playing games.

[@kyojitakenouchi9706]

Story time: someone in r&d wanted to kill One With Nothing before its printing, saying he would bash his head against the wall. The lead designer replied "print that shit". There was a deck called owling mine, a control deck that forces extra card draw for both players and wins with Ebony Owl Netsuke. Players started running One With Nothing in the sideboard to combat owling mine. The first one cast greatly increases your victory, the second one insures it. Rhystic Studies has a great video about the card, the best worst card

[@nekrataali]

Really the only reason One With Nothing doesn't see play is because every format now where it's legal has another card that does the same thing, but better (like Putrid Imp). It would be a staple in decks like Dredge if Lion's Eye Diamond didn't exist or was banned.

[@danielsash2079]

Saying gifts is a staple but amber is not both are only really played in one deck tho

[@CardmarketMagic]

Gifts was format defining I'm many points of history. Mox Amber only sees fringe play outside of commander. That is what we used to measure whether it's a staple or not :)

[@simonteesdale9752]

@@CardmarketMagic Doesn't gifts currently see play in modern storm? Past in flames doesn't really care where it or it's 3 friends go.

[@danielsash2079]

@@simonteesdale9752 yes. The only deck in modern that really plays it is storm and amber is played in breach and also neoform

[@samwich3972]

tbh this was very fun! now that i think about it would you care about a video series about peoples best cards (banned or not) and their stories? idk that stuff interests me as a player who only ever played with friends and we never even got our hands on the actual strong cards. would be interesting for me at least

[@Dready545]

Mox amber single-handedly enables Breach Combo in modern. One of the current best and most played top tier decks. It also was a key card in abzan legends a while back. The card is way closer to a staple than to a stinker.

[@CardmarketMagic]

Which breqch combo decks in modern? 😅 with all due respect, that deck is basically non-existant :/

[@thomasfplm]

Stuffy Doll is one of my favourite cards, not because it is good, but because it is fun to use. I have a "for fun" monoblack deck that has it, an equipment that redirects all damage I take to the equipped creature and Pestilence, so I can pay any amount of black mana to deal 3 times that in damage to the opponent.

[@somebodynowhere]

I dont know if I have seen all the videos but I'm wondering how they would view something like Gitaxian Probe, Valakut, Birthing Pod, or maybe Goblin Guide

[@rikytie7011]

Doomsday Ad nauseaum Demonic consultation Street wraith Ragavan

[@CardmarketMagic]

We're never doing ragavan 😅 no one will ever look at that block of positive abilities and think "yeah, this seems not good"

[@MadisonM1996]

I play One With Nothing in Oskar. Oskar's ability works just like Madness which means that you have to cast the discarded cards immediately when discarded. Which means those two abilities allow you to cast any of the discarded cards at instant speed. So I cast One With Nothing on my opponent's end step with Oskar on the battlefield and then cast whatever I want from the discarded cards. This is also great with combat tricks. Discard a few creatures before the declare blockers step, then cast them using Oskar's ability. Your opponents will never see it coming lol.

[@divemasterz52]

Love these videos! Maybe an oldschool/banned list episode? Hypergenesis Delver of secrets Huntmaster of the fells Ponder Tome scour Nimble mongoose Basking rootwalla

[@DWKCmusic]

Let's go with the Basking Rootwala my favorite Era of magic

[@francescognerre2408]

Please rate Reality Smasher or Thought-Knot Seer (or Vile Aggregate or Sky Spawner)

[@chuckwagon3718]

Fires of Invention might be a good fit for this series

[@sabenite]

I was surprised that Leoni didn't snap off Gift's being a staple. When I first saw it, I thought it read like a more flexible Painful Choice which is one of the most powerful Yu-Gi-Oh cards

[@trevorcartier7687]

I love this series, i think it would be cool to see the expert be someone who is more familiar with both games (although anika is great) because theres a lot of similarities between magic and yugioh that would help both sides understand the cards better. for example, when talking about stuffy doll, anika mentioned trample being able to go past blockers but if she said "its like piercing damage", leoni would have gotten it instantly

[@harriyama]

More of these please

[@simonteesdale9752]

I'd love to see someone evaluate a series of related cards, because it'd be super interesting seeing how their evaluation would change throughout the show, and comparing the cards to each other. Possible candidates would be: Invitational cards Companions MH1 forces The Titan cycle NPH praetors. Edit: The Kamgawa shoals would be really funny too.

[@lostalone9320]

Invitational cards would be fun - Especially because I don't think any of them scream that they are obviously busted.

[@nox9856]

It might be cool to see a beginner react to cards like Teferi's Protection, Pact of Negation, or Demonic Pact. I feel it could really drum up a good conversation.

[@PeterTeePee]

yeah no mox amber in commander is a insta include, so ya'll done goof'd with this rating, give the woman her point!

[@CleverCrumbish]

Commander doesn't count, it doesn't have a meta so "staple" and "stinker" are meaningless terms. That said, mox amber's laser targeting at commander specifically should probably have disqualified it from being included in the first place.

[@ReyosBlackwood]

It really isn't. In most commander decks it's too slow, by the time you have your commander out to turn it on, you already have your colors and can spend into rocks and dorks that don't shut off if you lose your commander. It's not a Stinker by any means, it's not a staple by far, what it is is a card that doesn't belong on this show.

[@shavedata5436]

I don't know why but seeing someone discover how mana costs work fills me with such nostalgia

[@danypoko9509]

love this when will they be back

[@stickofbutter4144]

Please have someone look at life from the loam or Helm of Obedience!

[@CheessusRiced]

I've watched tons of videos on this channel and I'm just now realizing that it's a German channel lol

[@Thunderkeg]

Mox Amber is definitely a cedh staple, that's a weird card to evaluate

[@gonzalocruzfernandez6641]

Can you try terror of the peaks + scourge of the skyclave combo

[@reritheguy6756]

How does a ygo player read Painful Choice for 2 and not be sure if it's good?????

[@nicolaskerenski5294]

Looking at Pox or Stasis would be fun.

[@andrewbowser9326]

I like the Stuffy Doll combo though

[@nekrataali]

Yah Stuffy Doll has been a combo deck for as long as it's been a card. It's not a format defining staple by any means, but it's definitely not a stinker. You never use it to block. It's always about doing dumb shit like Pyrohemia + Braid of Fire or having infinite untaps.

[@dragonbretheren]

Wait, am I misremembering Stuffy Doll? Didn't it used to be a control and combo staple when it came out? It has basically limitless combo potential and was a good midrange combat deterrent for control.

[@CardmarketMagic]

It was much too slow to ever see any competitive play

[@Terry.M.I.]

stuffy doll tron deck my buddy tried to make happen all the time if all the stars aligned it was nice flying, can block unlimited creatures, lifesteal, and more was fun to watch him try

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

12:38 How's that when the card does an infinite combo?

[@thatepicwizardguy]

stuffy doll has like... a TON of infinite combos and it's so easy to cheat it out earlier lol it's not a staple but it's actually really strong if you do any building around it at all.

[@md-sl1io]

ideas for future cards: soul warden omnipotence gitaxian probe deaths shadow

[@michaschulz5182]

Am I the only one remembering the 1 weekend when one for nothing was the most searched card of a event because the people needed it for the sideboard against the owl howling Mine deck I believe when it was t2

[@colgatelampinen2501]

Some cards that would be cool to see Blackmail, Mesmeric Fiend, Burning Inquiry, Wasteland and Lion's Eye Diamond

[@lastnamefirstname8655]

as a casual and new player of both, this is still hard. good fun.

[@ashluckhurst2840]

Has anyone suggested Painter's Servant yet? It''s just such a weird effect i'd love to see how the yu-go-oh players interpret it.

[@Zottelkopf115]

Lantern of Insight -> Yugioh never had something like lantern control. Maybe Bouncelands/Lotus field ?

[@pi_xi]

8:45 He played Gifts Ungiven as two Foolish Burials. Clever!

[@talamran7499]

punishing fire and primeval titan would be tricky to guess. also timestream navigator, experimental frenzy and clone legion are quite simple yet confusing.

[@joeldykman7591]

I would be fine with showing punishing fire ONLY if they showed Grove of the Burnwillows ahead of time. Like Grove is the first card evaluated and punishing fire is fourth.... something like that.

[@talamran7499]

@@joeldykman7591 I understand why but... it's a land, how will you explain why is this card being played without talking about punishing fire? I think it is already interesting enough on it's own to confuse new players if this is good or bad.

[@joeldykman7591]

​@@talamran7499 you don't have to explain the synergy when showing the land, but it allows the YuGiOh player a chance to piece together the wombo combo on their own without having to force feed it.

[@TheKalaxis]

Card ideas: Negate Blossoming Defense Autumn's Veil Tibalt (the original one) Collected Company Realms Uncharted

[@leSang27]

I'd LOVE to see someone just trying to evaluate Steamflogger Boss.

[@youngthinker1]

Golgari Grave Troll is always a fun one to talk about. Splinter Twin would be a give me. Expedition Map would be a fun history lesson. Vampire Hex Mage, Undercity Informant, Lantern of Insight, or Balistrat Spy would be rather unfair. One with Nothing is another history lesson. Rite of Flame, or all of the Rite cards.

[@MindstabThrull]

Mox Amber: Sees play with decks that use Emry (Modern comes to mind). One With Nothing: Called correctly. There *are* ways to make it good but usually that's to do things like make Barren Glory go off. Gifts Ungiven: Good call. Amazing when you can search up Unburial Rites/Dread Return and some kind of large creature to reanimate with it. Stuffy Doll: I probably agree with it not being a Staple, but it's really good with cards like Chain Reaction. Standstill: Agree here. Best played with cards that lands that have other abilities, such as the ability to turn into creatures and beat down.

[@jaynajuly2140]

Leoni's facial expressions are giving me life!

[@GlassActivist]

If Mox Amber is a staple in Commander, doesn't that mean it's a staple? I mean, Commander is one of the most popular formats, right?

[@Mythda]

it's not just one of the most popular formats, it's THE most popular format.

[@OtherSideLLC]

does being in 4% of decks make it a staple? Especially when you have cards that are in 84% (Sol Ring), 67% (Arcane Signet), 60% (Swords to Plowshares), 49% (Cultivate), and 43% (Counterspell and Beast Within) of decks?

[@OtherSideLLC]

and its not just price because Gaea's Cradle sees more play (7%) and that is $750 card

[@maxTheOG]

oh boy just in time

[@derrickthewhite1]

Its always so funny when a Yugio player sees the tap symbol for the first time.

[@krueger92]

“So by switching my land into defence mode, I generate one energy?”

[@kobisjeruk]

"This guy has 3 volleyba-" Say no more fam.

[@fergusofdalibor4264]

Leoni is so funny and those cheekbones are killing me. My knees are weak

[@Hurricane1990]

Both ladies bring great energy and fun. It’s cool to see how other tcgs view cards. I like how they both accept it is a game and do t get too bent out of shape if they guess wrong.

[@fergusofdalibor4264]

@@Hurricane1990 yeah I mean the card says draw 3 it's broken must be

[@memedaddy3095]

Love stuffy doll in my artifact deck!

[@nicolaischramm3876]

A card i would really like to see in this format: Mirrorwing Dragon...mainly cuz i think its a staple, but maybe is a stinker and my world gets crushed(i love this card) xD

[@imperialphoenix1229]

Gotta disagree on putting mox amber in the stinker pile. A lot of legends matter decks in commander run it (including some cedh decks) and there's an extremely relevant infinite-mana combo in both legacy and modern affinity

[@CardmarketMagic]

For the purpose of this game, we are only counting 60 card formats. Any card can be good in the right commander shell and there is no solid commander emtagame to rely on for this :)

[@imperialphoenix1229]

@@CardmarketMagic I mean... Legacy and modern are 60 card formats. Also CEDH does have a meta and some of it's decks do run mox amber.

[@AndrewS-vu4ji]

So does stuffy doll deal the amount of damage an attacker deals to it or does it only deal one because that's it's toughness.

[@RiptideFugitive]

It deals damage equal to the damage dealt to it. That damage isn’t arbitrarily limited to 1 just because its toughness is 1.

[@benkester1518]

Is the struggle with Mox Ember that the mana isn't enough for a card draw, or that you can't consistently get the mana you want?

[@therealax6]

The issue with it is getting a legendary creature or planeswalker on the battlefield - you're probably not going to get those out on turn 1 (and most likely not on turn 2 either), so it's slower than it seems for a zero-cost card. All that being said, the card does see play quite often, so it's not as bad as this video might've made it seem. It's just not a "put four in every deck" card as you might initially think when you first read it.

[@SakuraAvalon]

Gifts Ungiven is basically Magic's equivalent of Painful Choice. A dead give away that it's a good card.

[@falseclyde]

Idk if mox amber belongs in stinker?

[@CardmarketMagic]

It only really sees play in commander. It's not a bad card, but for the purposes of this game, it's a stinker :)

[@volosguidetomonsters3440]

Hey have you done Bazaar of Baghdad yet?

[@CardmarketMagic]

That's a great one!

[@garrettkeithr]

Is Mox Amber a “stinker” because you won’t necessarily have a Legendary Creature or Planeswalker under control all the time? It seems like a zero risk play for 0 mana. How does it work if there’s no legendary/planeswalker in the field? Is it a generic mana or does tapping it do nothing?

[@sethstephens4777]

if you dont have the legendary creature or planeswalker , then the ability does nothing . i would not count it as a stinker as it is a good card and sees some play here or there but its not really a staple in 1v1 but is def one in commander .

[@Hanz_Haze]

I love this format...

[@foxokon94]

The reason to play standstill is that once you are ahead you can slam it and force your opponent to give you 3 cards, or you can slam it on an empty board if your deck has cards that let you win without casting spells. Very rarely does it see play with the goal of letting your opponent draw 3.

[@DaxRaider]

Amber was a stinker but by now it's gotten a home and became a staple guys

[@OsvaldoChannel1]

What makes standstill good is that there are cards that do things from the hand with abilities, not spells. Example: Shark Thyphoon. I can cycle Typhoon, make a however big token I can and draw 1 and not trigger standstill, and now you have a threat you need to deal with. But if you cast a spell to get rid of the shark token, I draw 3, unless you dealt with the shark with an ability of your own. It's kind of contextually good and hard to figure out

[@nikolamatasin3877]

Hm... cards like Mausoleum Wanderer, Spell Queller, or Reflector Mage could be interesting, maybe even Thespian's Stage (tho TS would be kinda "evil" for players that don't know how broken the combo TS is part of is, and especially if they never saw Dark Depths (or Urza's Saga or Lotus Field), on another hand... it's played in basically one deck, so is it a staple? I mean... it's awesome when you copy let's say... Cabal Coffers with Thespian Stage, or some great Utility land, but that rarely happens)

[@Pslyse]

Stuffy Doll definitely needs either Pariah or Pariah's shield to be good.

[@themugofthenorth]

I have always wondered what yugioh players would think of colossal dreadmaw.