Yugoslavia Trial Explained

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@historysuit9418
@historysuit9418 9 ай бұрын
A tribunal like this was truly a first in human history. If you consider the relationship between countries throughout history, the fact that we have reached a point where there can be an international court with judicial authority is astonishing.
@randomhumanofearth7267
@randomhumanofearth7267 9 ай бұрын
That was at the peak power of usa nato and un now everyone everywhere across the world does various human crimes from Ukraine to Myanmar to Sudan to Ethiopia to Israel and Palestine yet international court can't do anything now
@itsblitz4437
@itsblitz4437 9 ай бұрын
You also forgot Rwanda 🇷🇼 in that same decade.
@alexsmith5454
@alexsmith5454 9 ай бұрын
He just talked about it being a first which is true, the Rwandan Court was formed a year after the Yugo one
@el_dank_sinatra
@el_dank_sinatra 9 ай бұрын
@@randomhumanofearth7267its only for like war crimes and crimes against humanity tho
@markobucevic8991
@markobucevic8991 9 ай бұрын
@@el_dank_sinatra doing awefully little against israel, ukraine, usa with the whole middleeast stuff, myanmar, half of afrika and propably a few things in south east asia besides ex siam, oh and usa (double for obvious reasons)
@cornmonsterftw
@cornmonsterftw 9 ай бұрын
It’s so crazy how people can commit literal war crimes and crimes against humanity and get lesser sentences than many other crimes
@cyrenia47
@cyrenia47 9 ай бұрын
I was just thinking about this. If some random civillian went and killed 200 people in an ethnic cleansing attempt theyd get life in prison easily. Do it for a government and you get 5 years
@notorioustori
@notorioustori 9 ай бұрын
Right? Mandatory minimums on recreational drug usage here in some US states meant happy weed smokers minding their own business got more time than people who made it their business to torture and/or kill as many people they could get away with...and then some. What a wonderful world...
@hyperteleXii
@hyperteleXii 9 ай бұрын
Like how can the punishment for literal genocide be less than life in prison?
@santiagolara1699
@santiagolara1699 9 ай бұрын
Netanyahu, for example.
@gregoryturk1275
@gregoryturk1275 9 ай бұрын
@@santiagolara1699It’s not like they are shooting every person they see and sending them to work camps.
@sunbathing_in_chernobyl
@sunbathing_in_chernobyl 9 ай бұрын
Babe, wake up, new war atrocities trial video by History Scope just dropped!
@meioww977
@meioww977 9 ай бұрын
imagine getting 20 years for committing a genocide. that’s insane.
@Freyrisland
@Freyrisland 9 ай бұрын
Imagine getting zero years and the full backing of “the free world”. Israel and the west have a bloody history of genocide. No one cares because brown people are being killed.
@untitled568
@untitled568 9 ай бұрын
Many of Bosniak and Albanian war criminals got away with it entirely.. It is a war crime only if you lose..
@1GTX1
@1GTX1 6 ай бұрын
One of the Serbian commanders ''Vinko Pandurevic'' who was in Srebrenica when people were killed got out of jail in 10 years. He claims that military units did not get order to kill civilians or prisoners but to attack the retreating Brigade, he was one of few that complained when he found out that prisoners were killed, and he claims that people from security services were in that area.
@Sushi_Baka333
@Sushi_Baka333 18 күн бұрын
Keep in mind that only people who organized that crime went to prison, not the people who commited it.
@ijmad
@ijmad 9 ай бұрын
Radovan Karadžić was President of Srpska, a Serb-majority region within Bosnia and Herzegovina which tried to break away to unify with Serbia during the Bosnian War. He was not the President of Bosnia as stated at 6:58. He commanded the army of Srpska, which committed war crimes on the Bosniak people, not the Bosnian army.
@kostyan99
@kostyan99 9 ай бұрын
You're also wrong. The commander of the Army of Republika Srpska was Ratko Mladić, who was also convicted for war crimes. Also it wasn't just Bosniaks that suffered because of the VRS (Army of Republika Srpska), it was also the Bosnian Croats.
@sliver7993
@sliver7993 9 ай бұрын
​@@JmKrokY cool
@aksentijee
@aksentijee 9 ай бұрын
ratko mladić was a general my guy @@kostyan99
@kostyan99
@kostyan99 9 ай бұрын
mb i meant commander as in he was the head of the VRS@@aksentijee
@Soyfunnykids
@Soyfunnykids 9 ай бұрын
@@aksentijee Ratko was Colonel General and effectively the minister of defense
@alexandrutheodorbileca4266
@alexandrutheodorbileca4266 9 ай бұрын
I remember the joke you made in your "breakup of yugoslavia" video about making the videp when the finaly guy finished his appeal. Never tought i would see this. Good video.
@8thFurno
@8thFurno 9 ай бұрын
Same lmao.
@HistoryScope
@HistoryScope 9 ай бұрын
That wasn't a joke. I've been waiting for this video for years. :D We've still got the Rwanda Tribunal to cover in the future as well... But we're going to wait a while with that. These videos are mentally quite taxing to make due to the heavy subject matter.
@Monatio79
@Monatio79 9 ай бұрын
@@HistoryScope If you're going to cover the Rwanda Tribunal, you should also make a video on the Khmer Rouge Tribunal (ECCC). Plagued by corruption and mismanagement from the start, it's a perfect example of "too little too late", in which a handful of geriatrics were given life sentences for war crimes, genocide and crimes against humanity.
@Scwarzkop
@Scwarzkop 9 ай бұрын
Inaccuracy at 0:32: Croatia and Slovenia are swapped. The red and blue in Slovenia are also swapped.
@Bram06
@Bram06 9 ай бұрын
Civics teacher here. I want to point out a mistake made in this video. The jurisdiction of international law when it comes to human rights is universal. A state does not need to be a signatory for its authorities to be tried as war criminals. Human rights are universal and directly binding. Of course, the enforcement in non-signatory-states is difficult, but the principle still stands. I think a good way to understand it as follows: the international treaties do not create human rights. Human rights exist by virtue of humans existing. Rather, the treaties *affirm* the existence of these human rights and the crimes that precede from the abuse thereof. One more thing. This isn't a mistake, but still something I would've liked to see. In order to the Yugoslav Trial in the proper historical context, I think it would've been good to name the number of casualities in the conflict, in particular the camps. This is important. Did 1000 people die? 10,000? A million? That scope does add to the understanding of the evil behind the crimes committed. 130,000-140,000 people died and 4,000,000+ people were displaced. That is roughly equivalent to the population of modern croatia. The mistake doesn't mess up the explanation of what the Yugoslav trial was, so I don't think the video is a failure. On the contrary, it's an excellent video that does a good job explaining the trial. Good job!
@m.streicher8286
@m.streicher8286 9 ай бұрын
I wish I was this eloquent
@slendermansmoom
@slendermansmoom 9 ай бұрын
Spy gaming tf2
@HistoryScope
@HistoryScope 9 ай бұрын
huh, I actually completely forgot to state of total death toll... And I tried to simplify the human rights treaties a bit. While you are correct, I did not think it was as important as other parts of the video so I simplified it to "they signed the treaties, therefore they couldn't claim it wasn't illegal" because that was a common argument in the Tokyo and Nuremberg Trials.
@Doomer_Optimist
@Doomer_Optimist 9 ай бұрын
It's a bit of an arbitrary point you made since, in an academic sense, international law doesn't even really exist in the way that we traditionally view law. In a global order defined by a state of anarchy there is no established authority with the capability to define the jurisdiction of international law. To say that jurisdiction is universal regarding human rights is entirely aspirational.
@Bram06
@Bram06 9 ай бұрын
@@Doomer_Optimist Imagine for a moment that all states were abolished and no sovereign entities were established to replace them. By your logic, humans rights would then also cease to exist. This simply cannot be true. States do not create human rights, they protect them.
@mathnerd97
@mathnerd97 9 ай бұрын
It's absolutely insane how recent much of this is
@katharina...
@katharina... 9 ай бұрын
Yes, it's so very recent. I was in highschool when this was going on, and my mind couldn't compute how something like this could possibly be happening in the modern world. I had the same thoughts about the events taking place in Rwanda a few years earlier. Sadly, it seems that the attitudes and way of thinking that facilitated these atrocities are so deeply ingrained in human nature, we'll not be free of them for the foreseeable future. It's mind boggling.
@vibechecked7522
@vibechecked7522 9 ай бұрын
My family was from Yugoslavia, more specifically, my moms Biological dad. He (while on a temporary visit) impregnated my biological grandmother who put her up for adoption in America, and he went back to Yugoslavia and never returned. We assume he was killed.
@AaronTheGreat________
@AaronTheGreat________ 9 ай бұрын
Why 😂
@ALoser-ThisIsTotallyUnique
@ALoser-ThisIsTotallyUnique 9 ай бұрын
it shouldn't be china has their native uygher population in "detention camps"
@atlanticboulevard
@atlanticboulevard 8 ай бұрын
its happening right now in Palestine 😞
@nemanjaradic1055
@nemanjaradic1055 9 ай бұрын
Sadly you didn't mention the very interesting trial of Vojislav Seselj, he's like the most famous case of the tribunal, there are compilations of him making fun out of the judges, insulting them in various creative ways for which he got his sentence prolonged multiple times.
@snuffmeister6720
@snuffmeister6720 8 ай бұрын
basic četnik activities
@L_back
@L_back 9 ай бұрын
He’s back! And so am I, back to watching History Scope. Dankjewel for this interesting, yet understandable explanation of this part of history!
@Polavianus
@Polavianus 9 ай бұрын
0:41 I love how you strategically hide Kashmir to avoid angry comments
@randomhumanofearth7267
@randomhumanofearth7267 9 ай бұрын
As an indian I can tell the most arrogant Nationalists in the world are from our country and arguing with them is very pointless
@HistoryScope
@HistoryScope 9 ай бұрын
I got an email from the Indian government telling me they were going to block some of my videos which showed the internationally recognized borders. But at the same time I will make the Chinese and Pakistanis angry if I give land to India. So in order to make everybody happy: we're just censoring that part of the world from now on. Is it Indian? Is it Chinese? Is it Pakistani? Nobody knows except for the person who animated this video.
@sazidafnan5015
@sazidafnan5015 9 ай бұрын
​@@randomhumanofearth7267how dare you insult BHARAT? Do you know THE GREAT HISTORY OF BHARAT? Go to Pakistan. Just kidding Im not an Hindutva gobarbhakt.
@easytiger6570
@easytiger6570 9 ай бұрын
Little do they know - behind the censor is the territory of the glorious nation of Bhutan
@neoxyte
@neoxyte 9 ай бұрын
Typical Indian government. Internet scammers? They do nothing. Someone showing a map? They take action.
@maisymeme8280
@maisymeme8280 17 күн бұрын
Thank you for not showing pictures so I can learn about history without being scared
@Anti-CornLawLeague
@Anti-CornLawLeague 9 ай бұрын
I hate how Bobby Fischer couldn’t come back to America for simply playing chess in Yugoslavia in 1992. Meanwhile, Tucker Carlson can go to Moscow today with no problems. Fischer wasn’t singing the praises of Belgrade’s grocery stores.
@VR36030
@VR36030 9 ай бұрын
I wonder if Tucker will get in trouble for possibly violating sanctions. He could easily have bought something like wine made in Russian-controlled Crimea. Statute of limitations are presumably long too.
@joebish6629
@joebish6629 7 ай бұрын
Despite Tucker's lack of expertise, the Putin interview was fascinating and Putin demonstrated that he's a strong leader with reasoned arguments that the USA can't come close to matching.
@brankobelfranin8815
@brankobelfranin8815 7 ай бұрын
But Bobby praised the serbs for being the aggressors
@rumble1925
@rumble1925 6 ай бұрын
@@joebish6629 did we watch the same interview? 😂
@DioTheGreatOne
@DioTheGreatOne 10 күн бұрын
Are you... advocating for expelling Carlson because he visited Moscow and interviewed Putin?
@draw4kicks
@draw4kicks 9 ай бұрын
These videos on various war trails are absolutely fantastic! Stayed up late after work to watch this!
@abdullahibrahim8938
@abdullahibrahim8938 9 ай бұрын
just a small note almost everyone who you heard in this video that they served in the "Bosnian army" are Serbs who committed atrocities against Bosnians rather than being Bosniaks ethinically
@Saulgud23
@Saulgud23 9 ай бұрын
There is no "Bosniak" ethnicity, there are only Muslim people who live in Bosnia.
@JackDrewitt
@JackDrewitt 9 ай бұрын
@@Saulgud23 but thanks to serbs, they no longer live in srebrenica
@Saulgud23
@Saulgud23 9 ай бұрын
@@JackDrewitt half a million Orthodox Serbs lived in Krajina and Bosnia and they no longer do, what is your point?
@michael-tn6vx
@michael-tn6vx 9 ай бұрын
@@Saulgud23 whose ethnic group is 99% Bosniak, didn't know serbs were this stupid, but on the other hand it's not that surprising considering how uncivilized they were during these 90s war and still are
@boflator
@boflator 8 ай бұрын
​@@Saulgud23 you're denying reality at this point... You do realise that there was a point where the Serb ethnicity didn't exist either, and then it was created just the same, right? You do understand that Serbs weren't actually created by god himself, right? You seem to have a very childish and uniformed understanding of what ethnicity is
@adamaitouahmane6519
@adamaitouahmane6519 9 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for a vid like this for a while, great breakdown!
@whiteoctober4582
@whiteoctober4582 9 ай бұрын
Bro, straight up said Karadžić is Bosnian 💀
@joshquinn4964
@joshquinn4964 9 ай бұрын
He was born in Montenegro, has Bosnian citizenship and is ethnically Serbian... saying he is each of these countries' Nationalities is technically correct. There was no mistake in the video, technically. Though I get your point. He was Serbian despite his Bosnian citizenship because ethnicity is more important that where you are born to many (if not all) former Yugoslovians.
@brajicnemanja
@brajicnemanja 7 ай бұрын
​@@joshquinn4964he said that he was a Bosnian president and the commander of Bosnian army
@SiVlog1989
@SiVlog1989 9 ай бұрын
Speaking of post war trials, one country that I'm surprised didn't face any trials after WW2 was Italy. After all, in the second Italo-Ethiopian war from 1935-36, Italian forces used banned chemical weapons like Mustard Gas to subdue the Ethiopian forces. Yet there (as far as I'm aware) there weren't any trials for Italians post WW2
@HistoryScope
@HistoryScope 9 ай бұрын
That's a good point. I did a bit of googling and apparently the British did plan on such a trial, however, concluded that they wanted to keep Italy as a friend during the Cold War. And putting the Italians on trial after they switched sides might have caused Italy to switch sides. So they cancelled these plans. (don't take my word on this for 100%, I just googled it for 5 minutes)
@zurielsss
@zurielsss 9 ай бұрын
@@HistoryScopesimilar happened in the Tokyo trials , America need to keep Japan as an ally in the Cold War and didn’t put the emperor on trial. The Tokyo trials are also rushed so a lot of politicians who are part of the imperial Japanese govt are still in power. Unlike Germany, the Nazi structure is dismantled but not in Japan. In retrospect it’s was the right thing to do, better save the Japan from future communism than dwelling in the imperialism past
@SiVlog1989
@SiVlog1989 9 ай бұрын
​@HistoryScope that logic does make sense and I completely understand why you're being cautious about it. After all, the famous American journalist, Bob Woodward, said when working with Carl Burnstein on a Watergate story which turned out to be completely wrong: "We had two or three (sources) and we had some logic and as we know, logic isn't a source,"
@linkandzelda6003
@linkandzelda6003 4 ай бұрын
"became Minister of JUSTICE..." That line always gets me everytime
@norman6567
@norman6567 8 ай бұрын
This, along with the videos about the Nuremberg and Tokyo Trials, are very informative explanations. Perhaps you could do the Cambodia/Khmer Rouge Tribunal next?
@laimis7333
@laimis7333 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant suggestion, I second that notion
@FjongFleron
@FjongFleron 9 ай бұрын
I am glad to see your back with the format that introduced me to your channel!
@ShaunCheah
@ShaunCheah 10 ай бұрын
It's fascinating to think about all the precedents set by this process and the many organizations and standards which will be able to trace their existence back to all this. I Imagine that if humanity gets its act together and expands through the stars, systems of planetary and even interplanetary justice will still be citing cases and events from the 90s and 00s when passing rulings and making decisions, similar to how we cite Roman and Napoleonic law today.
@WillH-p3u
@WillH-p3u 9 ай бұрын
How is your comment 10 days ago
@KucingLunox
@KucingLunox 9 ай бұрын
@@WillH-p3uprolly patreon member so he got early access
@oscaranderson5719
@oscaranderson5719 9 ай бұрын
“you can’t convict me, you’re not a real court!” -first man to be convicted by the ICC kinda makes you wonder how old our other major institutions are, and what dumb shit led to their founding.
@lildreadnaught
@lildreadnaught 9 ай бұрын
Yes! I’ve been waiting for a long time for this. *Sarcastically* I knew History Scope wasn’t a former Valve employee!
@panajotov
@panajotov 9 ай бұрын
In the early noughties, the Hague trials were on instead of educational programs in ex-Yugoslavia.
@faroukadedoyin8793
@faroukadedoyin8793 3 ай бұрын
Thank you I will share your Tribunal videos to my students.
@manofarmageddon92
@manofarmageddon92 18 күн бұрын
He made a number of hiccups and didn't even mention how anti-Serb the tribunal was. I wouldn't suggest doing that.
@frago321
@frago321 9 ай бұрын
Incredible. Really great video, helps a lot to learn about modern history with data and facts, and quite a neutral point of view, and not just heroes and villans. Good Job.
@luscorpio3679
@luscorpio3679 9 ай бұрын
Rewatched the Tokyo and Nuremberg trials videos earlier this week, guess it's good timing
@sirsquirrel6176
@sirsquirrel6176 9 ай бұрын
I was just checking to see if you would post a new video today. You must’ve read my mind!
@HistoryScope
@HistoryScope 9 ай бұрын
We now upload the first of (almost) every month.
@noir-pm7zz
@noir-pm7zz 9 ай бұрын
If you can do one about the trc .
@PhilRable
@PhilRable 9 ай бұрын
I’ve watched at least a dozen of your videos. This is by the far the best of any I’ve watched. This video is a credit to you and your team. It was obviously extremely well researched, presented in an unbiased and factual way without personal opinion and was both entertaining (in spite of the topic) and informative. Congratulations and I’m for one going to continue watching your videos.👍
@sadanbarakovic7318
@sadanbarakovic7318 9 ай бұрын
Great video, however, there are some mistakes. Radovan Karadzic was the president of the Republika Srpska, which is a entity inside Bosnia predominantely inhabited by Serbs now, and also Srebrenica massacre death toll was around 8732 confirmed bodies, dont know if this is the exact number but it is very close to this, and many mass graves are still sometimes found in ex-Yugoslav republics. I love your animation style btw
@bleron_26
@bleron_26 9 ай бұрын
also, Ratko Mladić was the main General of the Army of Republika Srpska, not the army of the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina.
@vladanjakovjob
@vladanjakovjob 8 ай бұрын
do you only have victims, where are the Serbian victims? Where is Jasenovac? Why are you such bigots?
@zloja2700
@zloja2700 8 ай бұрын
As a Bosnian i have to say that us using a single number is incorrect(i understand the meaning of it)the total number in my opinion is more and we still have not discovered the true number and sadly maybe never will.
@brankobelfranin8815
@brankobelfranin8815 7 ай бұрын
@@vladanjakovjob Living in the past? this about the 1990's, wasn't Beograd the first juden free city in WW2?
@miaomiaou_
@miaomiaou_ 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely chilling how some of these people who committed genoc*de and orchestrated death camps have been released from prison for crimes they committed a mere 30 years ago.
@mcmilkmcmilk9638
@mcmilkmcmilk9638 9 ай бұрын
The Trequel I've been waiting for!
@SmugLookingBarrel
@SmugLookingBarrel 9 ай бұрын
My biggest question now is, why has this never happened again? The Yugoslav wars were far from the last time in history that laws of war were broken and civilians were mistreated.
@AussieRider20
@AussieRider20 3 ай бұрын
As cynical as it is it requires both scale of the crimes and for the people committing the atrocities to not be able to stop the prosecution.
@vurpo7080
@vurpo7080 11 күн бұрын
It requires the cooperation of many countries, we can only put together an effective tribunal like this if the stars align and the right countries cooperate. For example, there is an international arrest warrant for Netanyahu, but he can avoid it by simply never going to any country that has signed the treaty.
@joaophilippe
@joaophilippe 9 ай бұрын
A good following to this sequel of international judgments would be a video on the Rwandan Genocide Trial.
@HistoryScope
@HistoryScope 9 ай бұрын
We will do that at some point, but we'll wait at least a year. Making these videos is quite depressing.
@atlanticboulevard
@atlanticboulevard 8 ай бұрын
@@HistoryScope Rwanda is the prequel, Gaza is the sequel😞😞😞
@AhmedJaisam
@AhmedJaisam 3 ай бұрын
​@@HistoryScope a video on the trials of Saddam Hussein and his associates would be interesting .
@carlsoll
@carlsoll 9 ай бұрын
*puts glasses on* was about to-go-to bed. You’ve peaked my interest friend. Longtime *subscriber* Wagering you published this at a reasonable time, I work late :o
@Brandonian
@Brandonian 9 ай бұрын
When I think about Yugoslavia, Josip Tito was actually doing a good job at keeping the nation together. Despite the history of the nation, and despite the challenges at the time, despite the war, I truly wonder what our world would be like if Yugoslavia was in power today, I think it could’ve been a decent power in Europe. This was such a good video, History Scope makes great content.
@andro7862
@andro7862 9 ай бұрын
Josip Broz. Tito was an alias/nickname.
@redhidinghood9337
@redhidinghood9337 9 ай бұрын
A mistake I have to point out: you didn't make the distinction of bosnian=\=bosniak. The bosnian army was mainly controlled by the bosnian serbs, who genocided bosniaks (and croats), but since you don't make the distinction, you've basically said in the Srebrenica example that bosnians of the bosnian army killed bosnians. It completely obscures what happened and creates confusion.
@FarkOSRS
@FarkOSRS 9 ай бұрын
Yeah that really threw me when I was listening. My dad was drafted into the Bosnian army fighting the Serbs and him and his family ended up in a concentration camp. The concentration camp guarded by his neighbours and friends from school. I wish he'd emphasised that more.
@markobecaj3027
@markobecaj3027 9 ай бұрын
What a great video! Good job!
@JayMapping-zd4sx
@JayMapping-zd4sx 9 ай бұрын
He didn't forget even after 3 years, what a legend.
@jackiem3516
@jackiem3516 9 ай бұрын
Great video. I wish schools especially here in America would talk more about the Yugoslavian/Bosnian Wars and the atrocities committed.
@Karibija
@Karibija Ай бұрын
Great video about the bright side of this Tribunal!
@anterimac5196
@anterimac5196 9 ай бұрын
6:50 Radovan Karadžić was a leader of bosnian Serbs, president of Republika Srpska (serbian part of Bosnia). Not president/leader of bosnian army that was involved in Srebrenica. Srebrenica massacre was done on bosnian muslim population.
@9delta988
@9delta988 9 ай бұрын
Please refer to them as bosniaks. They are more than a religion, they are an ethnic group. In Perspective, the Armenian genocide is not reffered to as the Christian genocide....
@anterimac5196
@anterimac5196 9 ай бұрын
@@9delta988 you're right, I wrote comment kinda hastily while watching the vid. My bad
@stbk51
@stbk51 9 ай бұрын
No, they are just islamized serbs. There are so many proofs for that, but the funniest one is that "bosniaks" are the only muslims in the world which eat pork and drink alcohol daily hahahahha. Many bosniaks have returned to orthodoxy and changed their names to serbian (their real names).
@stipidman93
@stipidman93 7 ай бұрын
@@9delta988 they themselves don't know what they are
@ddddddddd378
@ddddddddd378 25 күн бұрын
@9delta988 That's what they called themselves up until the mid 90s. They ran TV ads during the war to tell people to no longer declare themselves as Muslim ethically, but as Bosniaks. A lot of people still call them just Muslims as a way of spite, even though almost all of Bosniaks are Muslim and a tiny amount is atheist because they dont recognise them as a separate nation from Serbs and Croats. Some still declare simply as Muslims too. And your point about Armenian genocide is kind of a moot one as it should be called a Christian genocide as Armenians weren't the only target, all the Christians of the Ottoman empire were. Probably more than half a million Greeks died and more than a quarter of a million Assyrians. Armenians were the most affected though. Naming it solely Armenian is making people unaware of the others and should be changed imo, but I undeserved where it is coming from.
@satakrionkryptomortis
@satakrionkryptomortis 9 ай бұрын
lets hope we will get an episode 'russian trail explained' sooner than later..
@OGrandomunknownperson
@OGrandomunknownperson 9 ай бұрын
why do you want russia to commit warcrimes
@DRHellcat319
@DRHellcat319 2 ай бұрын
Well he wouldn't even need to wish for such a thing as it has already happened more than a dozen times after all they invaded Aleppo and Crimea and many more however those responsible were never punished
@vurpo7080
@vurpo7080 11 күн бұрын
@OGrandomunknownperson they already did
@565pedal
@565pedal 6 ай бұрын
fantastic video, should be part of the curriculum, of all high school students all around the world❤
@caseclosed9342
@caseclosed9342 9 ай бұрын
As an American, I feel like we don’t learn enough about this in school and instead have to rely on pop culture references (everything from the movie The Whistleblower to Thad’s father in Blue Mountain State) to learn about this. We need to teach this, because we are starting to repeat the same mistakes in Ukraine, imo.
@shapur8187
@shapur8187 8 ай бұрын
As an American you should know about the American service members protection act from 2002. which prohibits Hague from prosecuting american soldiers, and gives the US legal right to invade the neatherlands if it happens. So this thing about human rights and fair trials is a joke really. Its more of a tool for the global empire than anything else
@thomasjohnson2862
@thomasjohnson2862 8 ай бұрын
You didn’t end the video with your classic “This is Avery from History Scope, thank you for watching”
@plasmaxing
@plasmaxing 8 ай бұрын
My grandfather was a defensive attorney in northern California in the 60s & 70s. My dad asked him why he chose to represent criminals. My grandfather responded that everyone is entitled to fair representation in court. Side note: apparently, everyone in town kinda hated my grandfather 😅
@BuckeyeNationRailroader
@BuckeyeNationRailroader 9 ай бұрын
"I blatantly killed this person, but I'm not guilty!" George Remus would be proud at this defense tactic
@5Times5
@5Times5 9 ай бұрын
Correction: Ante Gotovina was found in 2005 not 2015 16:16
@Are_you_eyeballing_me
@Are_you_eyeballing_me 9 ай бұрын
I typed “Cards against humanity” in the search bar and it gave me this video. I have no idea why, but I’m here for it
@HermanosLuDi
@HermanosLuDi 9 ай бұрын
Good video as always. I keep watching your videos from time to time out of boriness lol.
@knockeledup
@knockeledup 9 ай бұрын
The guy arrested in the Canary Islands was caught in 2015, spent 7 years waiting for trial, was acquitted, then released in 2012…
@HistoryScope
@HistoryScope 9 ай бұрын
2005*
@emilrybak7902
@emilrybak7902 8 ай бұрын
​@@HistoryScopenope, they just used time machine to give him back some years wasted in courts. Some countries practice this it is called negative 3 years sentence.
@propernoun1583
@propernoun1583 3 күн бұрын
radovan karadžić‘S sentence was increased from 40 years to life in prison, so he will never be released.
@josiptito9412
@josiptito9412 9 ай бұрын
i would firstly like to commend you on the production and publication of this video on a cause which is very dear to me, seeing as i have written at least a few papers on this topic. however, is it not worth mentioning the people that people within the ICTY have stated that they WISHED to have prosecuted? slobodan milosevic was at least tried, but franjo tudjman was not, which is important because they committed the same level of attrocity in one another's lands. will you make a video on this?
@ctd325
@ctd325 9 ай бұрын
Tuđman was charged by the leader of the Croatian opposition, Dobroslav Paraga, for attempting to divide Bosnia with Milošević. He did not face trial because he died of cancer, while still being president. However i dont recall Croatian soldiers bombing Serbian cities to the ground, in the same way that the Serbs did to Vukovar.
@deniskoscak1735
@deniskoscak1735 8 ай бұрын
Very nice video and thank you for that. I have much learned from your video. Something to correct: - Radovan Karadžić was not the president of Bosnia but the president of Republic of Srpska. Therefore he was not the supreme commander of the Bosnian Army but the supreme commander of the Army of the Republic of Srpska (VRS - Vojska Republike Srpske) - The same goes for Ratko Mladić and Dragoljub Kunarac. They were VRS officers. There was no "Bosnian Army" per se. There were three national armies fighting in the conflict: 1) the previously mentioned VRS, 2) Army of the Republic of Bosnia & Herzegovina (ARBIH - Armija Republike Bosne i Hercegovine), 3) Croatian Defence Council (HVO - Hrvatsko vijeće obrane)
@PastorJonahCarpenter
@PastorJonahCarpenter 8 ай бұрын
Such a great video!
@faeries292
@faeries292 9 ай бұрын
You did not mention the epic trial of Vojislav Šešelj - I recomend to everyone to see how he played and mocked the system. Even he was and is an evil person, he is smart and knows how to play court game.
@waddjantachi
@waddjantachi 9 ай бұрын
Speaking of the trials, please also do the Subsequent Nuremberg trials, i.e. the lower courts.
@Bluepikminproductions
@Bluepikminproductions 8 ай бұрын
My Science teacher was a peacekeeper during the wars. He saw a horrific sight of a whole village hung under a house.
@marinbokan4102
@marinbokan4102 9 ай бұрын
Great job and keep up the good work! However a few statements are wrong (as I can see others have mentioned them in the comments so I won’t repeat) and some people might even find them offensive. Maybe even worth editing a few things in the video.. You can never be too careful when posting a video about Yugoslav wars.. speaking as a Croat.
@rfgnmf-nmesofuehsdjfnrmeowfsdz
@rfgnmf-nmesofuehsdjfnrmeowfsdz 9 ай бұрын
>found in 2015 >released in 2012 What?
@Yo-Uncle
@Yo-Uncle 9 ай бұрын
I think he meant 2022
@kuarla
@kuarla 9 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@Yo-Uncle it is actually 2012, and the arrest was made in 2005
@Yo-Uncle
@Yo-Uncle 9 ай бұрын
@@kuarla ah, so dial it back a decade
@megaing1322
@megaing1322 9 ай бұрын
Those stories about the Defense Lawyers are really annoying. You can't have justice if Defense and Prosecution aren't on the same footing. This isn't just about not putting innocent people into prison (I highly doubt that many, if any, of the people would be considered are innocent), but also about preventing the potential for people to claim that the Defense couldn't do it's job. If an international tribunal isn't clearly trustworthy, it massively loses it's value.
@r.w.bottorff7735
@r.w.bottorff7735 9 ай бұрын
Great video! Thank you
@MrGiygas1
@MrGiygas1 9 ай бұрын
You should do the trial of the Rwandan Genocide
@HistoryScope
@HistoryScope 9 ай бұрын
We will, at some point.
@MindfreakMCR
@MindfreakMCR 18 күн бұрын
Cool video! It would be interesting if you went a little bit into the judges that made up these tribunals, a lot of them were outstanding jurists in their countries of origin and life-long defenders of human rights
@huntclanhunt9697
@huntclanhunt9697 8 ай бұрын
It's crazy that a genocide happened this recently yet modernly people have already forgotten what a genocide is, and label any/all civilian casualties as genocide no matter the conflict.
@Amar061
@Amar061 9 ай бұрын
As somebody from Bosnia and Herzegovina, I would love to hear an "outsiders" perspective on the Dayton Agreement, because at best, what I hear and read about it BH, is that it was grossly naive, sentencing BH to now decades of dysfunctionality, and at worst, that it was designed like that in the aftermath of the Red Scare, since these teritories were communist for two-three generations. If somebody could point me to anybody from the outside discussing this problem, they would have my grattitude.
@Jakaj99
@Jakaj99 8 ай бұрын
My humble opinion from "outsiders": dayton agreements are disastrous for BH. It didn't end or solve the conflict in any way, it just frozen the confiict. And now as you said, BH is completly dysfunctional state because of that and it hurts my heart to see BH like that. It's like US didn't care about solving the conflict, they just wanted to stop the war by any means possible, and now bosnian people are suffering from that
@rustomkanishka
@rustomkanishka 9 ай бұрын
Last time I was this early, Marshall Tito, President Nasser, and PM Nehru were still wondering if a third front would be of any use.
@SavvaSou
@SavvaSou 7 ай бұрын
I love your videos!
@London_J
@London_J 3 ай бұрын
War Criminals ALWAYS declare "This court has no authority to execute me or arrest me!"
@AhmedJaisam
@AhmedJaisam 4 ай бұрын
Correction: Radovan Karadžić was the president of republika serpska ( the serbian part of bosnia and hersgovina) not bosnia, he was sentenced to 40 years but it later got extended to life in prison and is currently serving his sentance in the uk.
@Karbonn-14
@Karbonn-14 9 ай бұрын
BROTHERS. ASSEMBLE. NEW HISTORY SCOPE DROP
@huntclanhunt9697
@huntclanhunt9697 8 ай бұрын
While obviously these people needed to be brought to justice... The idea that the UN, a notoriously corrupt and incompetent organization, has the power to put people on trial is disturbing.
@theggfloupin4084
@theggfloupin4084 8 ай бұрын
Agreed. Especially since they are too scared to put their own allies on trial. Like the US's war crimes. The US army literally threatened to "break out" their soldiers from the court if they were put on trial.
@ianskyers4306
@ianskyers4306 9 ай бұрын
16:42 / 17:04 Yugoslavia Trial private cell
@dennisdriebusch4680
@dennisdriebusch4680 8 ай бұрын
thank you for this video
@cameronwarttig1732
@cameronwarttig1732 9 ай бұрын
I would love to learn more about yugoslavia
@HistoryScope
@HistoryScope 9 ай бұрын
We have a video about the Breakup of Yugoslavia. And later this year we have one on Yugoslav Socialism.
@London_J
@London_J 3 ай бұрын
Why was the strictest punishment issued at the Trial a maximum sentence of life imprisonment?
@hurricanemeridian8712
@hurricanemeridian8712 9 ай бұрын
I'm sorry but I simply cannot feel sorry for lawyers who are trying to defend literal war criminals
@vurpo7080
@vurpo7080 11 күн бұрын
Defense lawyers exist because if they didn't exist, there would be no trial at all. They're not there to defend any war crimes, they're there to make sure the prosecutors do their job and don't overstep it. Without a defense, how would we be able to tell who is a war criminal and who is innocent in the first place? Obviously the prosecutor would judge literally everyone to be a war criminal if nothing prevented them.
@debloom7824
@debloom7824 9 ай бұрын
16:17 You said that he was captured in 2015, and the he was released in 2012
@martijnvangelder1902
@martijnvangelder1902 Ай бұрын
11:45 so I, a depressed person, decided to mosey on over to the website of the Yugoslav trials. Truer words were never spoken as at the timestamp in this video. Shit's on the same level as the Nazi camps in Germany. Be warned, people.
@RovingTroll
@RovingTroll 9 ай бұрын
Huh. I wonder if a tribunal will be held over some current conflicts
@samwill7259
@samwill7259 9 ай бұрын
If there is any Justice, we'd better hope so
@PoliticalReptile
@PoliticalReptile 6 ай бұрын
Kissinger died before he could face one. Bush deserves to face a tribunal for Iraq.
@diegocorales9284
@diegocorales9284 9 ай бұрын
There are people questioning how you can commit literal war crimes and crimes against humanity and get lesser sentences than theft or a single murder charge. It mostly has to do with the legal systems that are used in the international tribunal. America uses a legal system called "Common Law" in this system sentences are very very long and harsher, but convicts can appeal their sentences with good behavior and be left out a lot sooner. The legal system that the international court (and also most of the world) uses is called "Civil law", in this system sentences are shorter but are really hard to appeal to them unless is health related or their is a particular reason. So for example you might get 65+ years or even life imprisonment for manslaughter in "Common Law "countries (basically USA, Canada and Australia) but can get your sentence dropped to 17 years if you have good behavior. While in the "Civil law" system (Mostly Europe, Latin America and the vast majority of Asia) you get a 15 year sentence for manslaughter but you are almost guaranteed to serve the entirety of that time and it could even increase due to bad behavior. Both systems have valid reasons, and in a personal level I don't know if there is a "better legal system" because it mostly boils down to culture and history of those countries. Hope this clears a few things... 😀
@bleron_26
@bleron_26 9 ай бұрын
My biggest criticism of this is that you got some of the Nationalities/ethnic allegiances wrong for some of the people wrong.
@newscottishgolf7305
@newscottishgolf7305 7 ай бұрын
Could you do a video on the doctors trials and the judges trials? That would be interesting.
@RM-ti8nf
@RM-ti8nf 9 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@Arbiter22J
@Arbiter22J 8 ай бұрын
If anyone thinks Nuremberg was just “Victors justice” needs their search history checked
@bananajoe4494
@bananajoe4494 9 ай бұрын
Lets be honest to ourselves, every time these courts are set up it usually takes negative tone that it is just a show created to clear the consciousness of observers present at the time but not acting, It always strikes me as funny how these said international law is not applied to all like: Russia, Palestine, Israel, Azerbaijan, Armenia, just to name a few more notable hot ones. This cannot be better illustrated better than the Serbian side, this is why we have a musical gem named:"My father is a war criminal" and the fact these trails in effect made the culprits de facto legends(as they will be remembered in history far better than the victims themselves) So as a small critique you should try to explain the potential political drives behind these trails, otherwise a great video, keep it up!!!
@vurpo7080
@vurpo7080 11 күн бұрын
They can't set up tribunals and punish the Russian or Israeli leaders because those countries don't agree to it. International courts have already made arrest warrants and allegations against their leaders, but what are they going to do about it? The Russian police is never going to arrest Putin and bring him to the Hague, and neither is Israeli police going to do the same to Netanyahu. And no other country's police can enter those countries to arrest those people, that would be an invasion and their local militaries would stop it. The only reason this worked in the former Yugoslavia was because after the wars, the countries agreed to arrest and send off their own citizens to the Hague.
@Ace-rp7vr
@Ace-rp7vr 8 ай бұрын
The biggest crime is that these bastards were allowed to walk early
@xraselver7634
@xraselver7634 8 ай бұрын
So if the defence had more time then they would have gotten even lower or no sentences at all? For atrocities, in the same realm of most harm ever done. So fun :) But I guess better technology today would make finding out about such crimes more likely.
@Albanez39
@Albanez39 3 күн бұрын
Something that should have been clearer: Most of the Bosniak people that were indicted (like Karadzic and Mladic) were actually Bosnian Serbs that held power in Republika Srpska. They were not commanders in the Bosnian army, they were commanders of Serbian paramilitaries. The autonomous region of Bosnia that has a Serbian majority. It is still ruled by Serbs and demands to unite with Serbia. Ethnic violence is still a thing there.
@MrMike855
@MrMike855 9 ай бұрын
Quite informative. As an American, I only really heard about Serbian war crimes, and only vaguely knew about Croatian ones through news coverage of trials.
@youwayo
@youwayo 9 ай бұрын
Tudman and Izetbegovic were supposed to indicted for warcrimes but they both died before that could happen.
@Starg4z3r
@Starg4z3r 9 ай бұрын
0:32 i think that you mixed up the slovenian and croatian ethnic groups
@RichSmurf
@RichSmurf 9 ай бұрын
Quick unasked for tip, I almost swiped past thinking this was the nuhemburg trial video because it’s almost the same thumbnail
@iamhere6893
@iamhere6893 9 ай бұрын
Kan je ook een keer een deepdive doen in Srebrenica? Mss deels van hoe het van verschillende kanten eruit zag, we hebben best veel bronnen van hoe het voor de dutchbat was
@peterdiaz3796
@peterdiaz3796 9 ай бұрын
I didn’t watch this when it first came out because I saw the thumbnail and thought it was the Nuremberg trial video
@Zaman805
@Zaman805 9 ай бұрын
Correction: 7:40 you said geted the correct term is got but very good job continue the good work
@HistoryScope
@HistoryScope 9 ай бұрын
I tried saying "gathered", but I slurred the word a bit there.
@gm_motion6959
@gm_motion6959 9 ай бұрын
the sentences can be really short, for no reason! P.S Nice video!
@1teem
@1teem 9 ай бұрын
How was the Croatian general caught in Canary islands in 2015 and released in 2012?
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