The Nuremberg Trial

The Nuremberg Trial
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Germany started the second world war when it invaded Poland and eventually attacked over a dozen countries throughout the continent. But by 1943, the tide of war had turned: The Soviet Union had pushed back at Moscow, Sint Petersburg, and Stalingrad. While the British had beaten back the German air raids and pushed the Axis powers out of Africa.
So the leaders of the major allied powers came together to discuss the state of the world after the WW2 had ended. Stalin of the Soviet Union, Roosevelt of the USA, and Churchill of the United Kingdom discussed creating the United Nations, the D-Day invasion, and dividing Germany up into 4 occupation zones. Because Germany. Will. be. Divided. But that was not all. Over the course of World War 2, it became apparent to the Allied forces that Germany committed atrocities on a massive scale. The night raids, the forced deportations, the mass genocide. There was only 1 question on everybody’s minds: how do you punish acts so evil?

[@UmVtCg]

The city of Nuremberg (also known as Nurnberg) in the German state of Bavaria was selected as the location for the trials because its Palace of Justice was relatively undamaged by the war and included a large prison area. Additionally, Nuremberg had been the site of annual Nazi propaganda rallies; holding the postwar trials there marked the symbolic end of Hitler’s government, the Third Reich.

[@davidneuhoff5455]

Besides that Nuremberg was also the place where the first laws were passed which officially discriminated jews in 1935.

[@MrSniperdude01]

Actually that's the primary reason Nurnberg was chosen, at least according to US accounts like Justice Jackson. The British were eager to make examples of the defeated Nazis, Churchill even posed the idea of rounding them up & summarily shooting them all.

[@Cityinlead]

And who said Politicians and Generals had no sense of humor or a taste for irony

[@HistoryScope]

As a small bit of trivia: They also considered Luxembourg City because it's relatively small and so wouldn't be a statement of power. The Soviets wanted Berlin to be the place where they'd be held. In the end they decided to do the trials in Nuremberg but the official home of the tribunal authorities would be in Berlin.

[@dee-tx5jd]

@@davidneuhoff5455 Nürnberger Rassegesetze

[@QemeH]

These trials actually spawned a law that is on german books until today. Since then it is not only *allowed* for any soldier to disobey illegal and/or immoral orders, they are actually *legally compelled* to do so.

[@QemeH]

@@Sionnach1601 Huh? I mean, I'm not an expert in US law, but I am quite certain that nurses and doctors can decline to adhere to illegal guidelines and/or orders. Who would even have the power to give doctors ANY orders pertaining to patient care? They are ultimately responsible, are they not? Again, I'm german, so I only know the german laws - but here a nurse is not only allowed to refuse illegal orders, she's obliged to do it (if and when she can be expected to know it's illegal).

[@gearf8910]

Yet they didn't

[@musoehcr]

@@QemeH they may be talking about the whole COVID ordeal most conservatives are off their rockers with that shit.

[@lolstalgic9602]

@@musoehcr Not just conservatives. Most channels talking about it are Centrists, Libertarian, and other Third Parties

[@nolimit3281]

Isnt murder immoral? Warfare is inherently immoral, cant german soldiers just not fight in a war because its immoral?

[@mar6co200]

"i'm sorry" Speech 100

[@k0mentator507]

If it works it works

[@vikinghoodbluelighthouse2911]

“I’m sorry for my shitty meme” Reddit Cringe 100

[@RUSTYCHEVYTRUCK]

Honestly they probably let him off for saying something other than “the mustache man made me do it” I would be sick of hearing that over and over for 3 days

[@k0mentator507]

@@RUSTYCHEVYTRUCK also given that he was only an architect, they probably thought he wasn't that bad compared to what they had seen

[@eavyeavy2864]

@@RUSTYCHEVYTRUCK usa ATF use "we are just following order" as excuse to gas and burn 80 people alive lmao

[@psyxypher3881]

"Hans, do we have a Lawyer? They're all dead? How could that have-...oh."

[@mohammadjavadsalehi3227]

No one get this joke?so underrated!!

[@HistoryScope]

Good point. Heart reacted it

[@Karlos1234ify]

Jewish people make great Lawyers.

[@ohadgoldhagen1095]

Karlos1234ify the stereotype is that they do

[@4600norm]

Many of the SS were lawyers. The ones who created the final solution.

[@themonke6250]

"Sir, these are the Nurnberg trials. Pleading that your client was "based and redpilled" is not an adequate defense for crimes against humanity."

[@fortblocks]

In fairness your honor, what would you do if you were ratio-Ed by a Jew?

[@epiccrusadr8583]

Based

[@luisf2793]

“And no, saying they were totally cringe isn’t a good defense to committing mass genocide”

[@R_lulu]

​@James A, "He made some mistakes, but who didn't? Life doesn't have an instructions manual"

[@inigochicano]

How can you misspell "Nuremberg"

[@lillyie]

Austria started two world wars: First by attacking Serbia then not accepting Hitler into art school

[@iTekk3rzv]

@@alexanderedinger What are you talking about Beerus killed the dinosaurs.

[@jesseberg3271]

Frankly, to hell with killing baby Hitler. Go back in time and convince some rich Viennese art collectors to buy his shitty paintings: moral dilemma solved!

[@khadizaahmed8989]

@@jesseberg3271 actually the WW2 would still happen because of the grandfather paradox!

[@jesseberg3271]

@@khadizaahmed8989 the grandfather paradox assumes several things about the nature of the universe that cannot be tested at this time. Specifically, it assumes that we do not exisit as part of a quantum-multiverse, and that causality can flow both ways through a time travel event. If time moving forward is a fundamental principal of the universe, and not just a product of our perspective, then it is possible that causality could only pass one way through a time travel event, breaking the time line any time a traveler went back in time, and effectively making most paradoxes meaningless. In essence, a time traveler would appear at the moment of their arrival, but the nature of that arrival would disconnect them from their previous existence, due to causality traveling in only one direction. This traveler would have effectively destroyed the previous time line, simply by their existence in the new one. Causality then flow from that moment forward, with no concern for where the time traveler came from. On the other hand, if we are part of a quantum-multiverse, then all possible varients would exisit simultaneously. Under that circumstance, the act of time traveling would create a cascade of new universes, were causality could flow backwards into another universe, thereby defanging the paradox. In that circumstance, since every version of the outcome will exisit, each in its own universe, the only choice we have is, which version of ourselves will we attempt to be? Will it be the version that kills baby Hitler? The one which seeks a non-violent alternative? Or the one who does nothing, unwilling to bear the responsibility of changing history?

[@christopherblackhall2832]

Lunatic Lunala it was actually Serbians that started the wars

[@diegoandrade467]

High ranking Nazis when shown a picture of Hitler: I’ve never seen this man in my life

[@brycehiggins1660]

Lmaooooo

[@kcasc_hd]

But actually every German when asked with a gun that was born before ca. 1936: yeah I´ve seen that guy...

[@213kilacali]

😂😂😂

[@mortalclown3812]

😂 Waiting for that to be heard locally and soon.

[@maxdalhaus8555]

U can't say that every German from this time period would say that. Sure some people who can't think of a better excuse, but the most likely given answer was:,, I'm not a nazi"

[@MarcMagma]

Stalin: "How dare you kill so many people in death camps?" Also Stalin: "Btw, I need a full list on how you did it. For, uhm, the trials?"

[@devonalexreckon6048]

The germans killed millions in death camps as if it was a factory business , the gulags , even if they where harsh , didn't kill millions of people , in fact most came out alive

[@MarcMagma]

First: This was about making fun about the fact that the Soviets had their own Death Camps with basicly the same function the Concentration Camps had before they were used for the Holocaust. Second: Yes, most came out alive. Yes, Hitler and his Concentration Camps killed more. However, the gulags still killed millions. Though I do have to admit that during my research for proof, I've stumbled on many different counts of "millions". Yet since they all referre to the death toll as "above a million", it's safe to say that it were at least one million who died. "The total figure for the entire Stalinist period is likely between two million and three million." (www.nybooks.com/articles/2011/03/10/hitler-vs-stalin-who-killed-more/) "Western scholarly estimates of the total number of deaths in the Gulag in the period from 1918 to 1956 ranged from 1.2 to 1.7 million." (www.britannica.com/place/Gulag) "The result of the analysis is a posterior probability distribution; the obtained posterior 95% credible interval of the number of deaths is (9.7 million, 16.7 million)" (www.jstor.org/stable/2986039?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents)(though given that this came out in 1995, I personally hold it as "less credible" than the other sources)

[@mortalclown3812]

Asking for a friend.

[@theoutdoorcollector460]

Marc Magma dude tries to tell you Stalin didn't kill millions 😂 um yeah he most certainly did he actually killed about as much as hitler did due to his power trips and "cleansing" of the country aka taking out anyone that doesn't worship you

[@AlexanderNuts667]

Most of the deaths in the gulags were due to starvation caused by the nazi invasion

[@Betrunkenes.Huhn.]

Another interesting thing about Karl Dönitz (The Head of the German Navy) is that, his order not to help the survivors of sinking ships was an immediate reacion to something called the "Laconia-incident", where the captain of the German submarine "Laconia" had ordered his men to rescue the survivors and even send messages to British and US-ships about it and the current coordinates of the ship. The US-Navy however completely ignored the rescue and sent bombers to attack the Laconia using said coordinates, as a result the captain of the submarine ordered to abord the mission and stopped the rescue. Due to that reaction of the US, Karl Dönitz gave the order to not rescue survivors onwards.

[@shaansingh6048]

you mean abort? i got confused.

[@Betrunkenes.Huhn.]

@@shaansingh6048 Yes, they did abort the rescue due to the US attacking them.

[@shaansingh6048]

@@Betrunkenes.Huhn. oh alright you said abord in the comment and I thought you meant aboard

[@thereisnocarolinHR]

Don’t you ever make me side with a Nazi again ya hear

[@mazsterr]

Yeah we aint falling for that oldest trick in the book 😂

[@felix4645]

Speer: “I’m Sorry” Judges: Damn it!

[@plarteey1316]

Phoenix Wright: Gottem again!

[@Canadianvoice]

Unit 731: "We're sorry?" U.S. government : "don't apologize"

[@cdhilton7124]

@@Canadianvoice 😂😂😂

[@genericnameuwu8339]

Bro had Saul goodman as a lawyer

[@shaansingh6048]

@@genericnameuwu8339 it was the navy guy who really had saul goodman

[@arhabersham]

I am as impressed with the narrator's flawless german pronunciation, as I am with the high-quality, detailed, and yet succinct nature of this amazing video. Subscribed

[@z3pedro]

Not very good German pronunciation....if you don't believe me ask a German native speaker...😊

[@arhabersham]

@@z3pedro I guess my German is not as great as I thought then! Amazing content, tho

[@PodGodGodOfPod-jb7sf]

Lol you aren’t German. “Alfredo” even if you learn the language or even if you are born there, one look tells me all I need to know.

[@LukeSaward]

@@z3pedro stfu

[@walterbravohill1130]

That's a nasty comment. You should be reported for discrimination. That's is wrong. Learn from the past.

[@BVBrocks927]

what a joke giving some of these guys 10 years. People in the united states get longer sentences for a little bit of weed

[@lauriruukki5702]

BVBrocks927 Well that is the American justice system for you. Also the only thing why Dönitz got only ten years was thanks to Chester Nimitz who testified that American subs also didn't pick up crew from sunken ships.

[@FelipePetersBerchielli]

that shows how America justice system is one of the worst in existence

[@ps4tv614]

What if it was because back then they didn’t have proper rules it was the first time

[@camdionne4669]

Because the laws of war were only made after the world War 1 and were not yet complete on what the laws are and because they never would have thought to make a law about something they never thought would happen

[@SlimeMasterNate]

@@FelipePetersBerchielli The American Justice SYSTEM itself is one of the most fair and just in the world. But the laws that the system has to follow, the corruption of judges (which every justice system to some extent is susceptible to), and most often the corruption of police/prosecution in certain parts of the country leads to most of the failings of it. Rarely is the failure of the American Justice System the fault of the system itself.

[@Anacronian]

Stalin: "yes crimes against humanity..we can't have that 👀"

[@abinashtarai6067]

Gulag also

[@nxthy6978]

This applies to the USAs Japanese internment camps, the UKs involvement in the Bengali famine and Frances on going oppression in its colonies

[@vankhaan9303]

This is an another example of 'history written by the victors'.

[@bigpig2709]

@@nxthy6978 also applies to the Bataan Death March

[@HottestBrownMan]

@@vankhaan9303 Actually in this case no. The Nazis and Americans were in cahoots with each other and funnily enough alot of Nazi commanders memoirs are non-fiction and these were treated as fact until 1991 , where Soviet documentation of Nazi war crimes were released and thus the full scale of the Nazis were known.

[@rudecrok4734]

Me: *bragging about my killstreak* Everyone else at nuremberg trial:

[@yowtfputthemaskbackon9202]

"shut up stalin"

[@raptordoniv6779]

Lmao 😂

[@GoDawgs18]

That’s dark

[@PatrickColl1ns]

Not ok...

[@RealJesusChrist1]

I like your kind of dark! :D

[@nothappierthanme6146]

Its kinda funny how the USSR sentenced others for crime against humanity

[@AimeeColeman]

There are people in America who are/were imprisoned for selling a drug that is currently legal in their state for longer than the person who ordered slave labour to be used because they said sorry.

[@johnnywhitsel1583]

Ya? And they should probably be released.... however, now that it is legal doesn't change the fact they broke the law of the time. Nor do you take into considering their past offences. To be fair: I would have executed all these people indicted at Nuremberg.

[@Rottengoal]

Some of the worst Nazis that were responsible for thousands of the most brutal murders, experiments and tortures on men, women and children. Were welcomed by the United States of America and lived good lives as University professors or researchers.

[@fuhrerreicht2413]

@@Rottengoal I mean America has their history of cruel experiments .for both animals and humans. Practically all major HIC’s currently which participated in WW2 have done cruel experiments.

[@l0lan00b3]

@@fuhrerreicht2413 he's referencing operating paperclip here but you're both right

[@hunterjohnson1706]

Lol

[@porter5224]

"I dIdNt KnOw WhAt ThEy WeRe DoInG" -High-ranking Nazi who knew what they were doing

[@porter5224]

yes, because they let it happen

[@unematrix]

@Cosmic Rift If my friend was raping and murdering people in the other room, I would be complicit to the crime because I didn't try to stop it and I did not go to the police. This is very similar to that.

[@BR0984]

Porter "iF yOu'Re DepReSsed, JuSt dOn'T Be." That's what your comment was

[@TheRealMaysao]

there are reports of nazi officers who refused to kill innocents and didnt got punished by the regime.

[@nicholasadams5429]

@@BR0984 exactly

[@redblaze8700]

All of those who were sentenced to prison went to the same jail, but after Speer and von Schirach were released in 1966, Hess became the only prisoner there until his suicide.

[@shaansingh6048]

must have been pretty crazy having a bunch of nazis put into a prison. need a sitcom.

[@limepop340]

@@shaansingh6048 the prison’s wikipedia article goes a bit into the ensuing drama, if you’re interested. I can 1000% see it being a sitcom

[@Littlemissdirtbag]

I always thought it sounded crazy that he waited decades, even after he was the only prisoner in the prison, to kill himself.

[@youngsong2254]

@@Littlemissdirtbag Keeping Hess to 93 years old as all alone after all prisoners' released in 1966 is an barbarian's treatment in modern day ! Many of the prisoners were released earlier because of their ill health !

[@youngsong2254]

Keeping Hess to 93 years old as all alone after all prisoners' released in 1966 was an barbarian's treatment in modern day ! Even Russia wanted to release before his suicide. Many of the prisoners were released earlier because of their ill health !

[@spectifyydev]

My great grandfather was a guard at the trials, there is a picture that features him in it. it’s strange to think about him being there, hearing all of this while it was happening.

[@musoehcr]

Did he ever speak to you about this in depth ? Or just mentioned he was there. It’s so surreal when you think about how not that long ago this happened Jen I was a kid this felt like forever ago now I realize how little time has passed between now and insane eras

[@spectifyydev]

@@musoehcr he himself never really spoke about, he didn’t like talking about the war much. actually, how we found out he was there is the fact that there is a picture with him in it. without us find that we probably never would have known he was there.

[@musoehcr]

@@spectifyydev that’s crazy

[@EEEEEEEE]

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[@Tenchi707]

How did an SS guard skip prosecution, I'm curious

[@redlock1815]

"Useful engines follow orders" -Thomas

[@rag.animations]

I see a man of culture

[@boomboone47]

Thomas the Thermonuclear bomb.

[@rag.animations]

@@boomboone47 no, Thomas the Auschwitz worker

[@lardlover3730]

@@rag.animations indeed.

[@katherynj7263]

The worst part wasnt the screams, it was the silence, because in the silence I was left alone, alone to contemplate my thoughts.

[@CarlosRamirez09]

I remember reading about Albert Speer’s son who is himself an architect and they asked him about his dad. He said “it’s like my business partner said to me. Would you have rejected the opportunity to build all the buildings you dreamed to build as an architect?”

[@TheTrickster923]

Albert Speer Jr's last work was the World Cup stadia in Qatar... built by slave labor. Like father like son, I guess.

[@TheTrickster923]

If my father was infamous for spending his architectural career building monuments to dictators with slave labor, I would simply not spend my own architectural career building monuments to dictators with slave labor, but what do I know

[@supermemeposting8216]

​@@TheTrickster923 No you wouldn't lmao

[@fortherepublic9878]

Soviet official: “How dare you persecute people in camps with forced labor and extermination processes? You are sentenced to death!!!” Meanwhile in Moscow, USSR Stalin: “Hey Beria, how are the Gulags going?”

[@kirillassasin]

America and Britain: wow someone using our technology

[@kalpeshmanna7233]

😂

[@yulusleonard985]

The problem is that The soviet using soviet forced labor while the Germans use soviet forced labor.

[@jordanred3273]

@@MaidenLover13 good effort commie

[@jordanred3273]

@@ThatCamel104 care to elaborate? Do you have an opinion to state or something?

[@trobertt7271]

*Correction to the title : How we punished Axis war criminals Remeber that the laws of war only apply to the losing side.

[@HistoryScope]

I recently changed the title to see if I could improve it... I will take your suggestion under advisement :)

[@trobertt7271]

History Scope - I’m glad you do! Thx.

[@Hsdias]

trobert t would you rather we didn’t punish them at all? Or would you have them hang Roosevelt and Stalin along with the others?

[@trobertt7271]

Henrique Dias honestly i don’t know.

[@erinong193]

@@Hsdias i mean roosevelt was already dead at that time?

[@Sliqhs]

Best lawyers they could find, aka the ones they didn't kill

[@finnishwehraboo8377]

Ye

[@matthewharrison2317]

Jesus CHRIST LOL.

[@maxkordon]

they woulda had nukes too if they hadn't exiled all their best scientists

[@africanlipplateandbonenose3223]

@@maxkordon They would have anyways in a few more months. "Best" LOL

[@spooklordsupreme4929]

LOL

[@normansilver905]

One of the most important witnesses against the Nazi's was Gen Paulus who explained under oath how the system worked. He had served before being sent to Russia as the High Command's recorder and he spoke with authority and told investigators where certain documents could be located.

[@lordmustafa3309]

Prosecution: shit we have no evidence Germany: don't worry bro we documented all our crimes Edited: thanks guys for 1k likes

[@Bjionin]

lmao Towards the end of the war many of the officers knew they were going to get caught so they prepared to burn all the documents of the atrocities that was related to them and there other friends. Some failed due to them being apprehended by one of the armies

[@filip9564]

Smoort

[@triplewhoppper]

Did they?

[@SspaceB]

Not even close to reality

[@monchyd6519]

Germans be like „hans, we gonna kill, torture and gas a lot of ppl“ *Looks at hans Hans:“you know what That means“ Peter:“imma use the kamera, Ur writing is better“

[@richardnoah2922]

Hess: Tries to make peace, Britain: "and i took that personally"

[@antina888]

1:53 I love how Stalin was not opposed to the death by order plan. I bet he was like "Guys hear me out, we could just kill them."

[@musoehcr]

He’s probably the man that brought it up 😂

[@JatPhenshllem]

@@musoehcr Yeah 😂

[@games-dv3gy]

I mean he was right, the amount of crimes was insane.

[@Ghostly_writer]

​@@games-dv3gyno?? If that's the case he should be indicted as well. Killing thousands who most likely were not even aware of what the camps actually did is horrible. You shouldn't commit a second genocide to deal with first

[@games-dv3gy]

@@Ghostly_writer I was speaking about the high ranks, not basic german soldiers. Now high ranks were totally aware of what they were doing, and fully supported the genoside of ethnical minorities.

[@darthrevan8737]

Roosevelt and Churchill: against the executive order of killing. Stalin: *whistles*

[@simonh6371]

He sounds more Dutch to me.

[@cyclopsslug3737]

@@simonh6371 Finally someone who knows common sense

[@Atesz222]

Those people in India just decided to die of hunger because they were bored I guess :'D

[@Atesz222]

@@ihavenosociallifedaddy0253 :O

[@Chuked]

I have no social life Daddy025 yeah they are the most populated country

[@WaldoBagelTopper]

This was a marvelous undertaking for the time. Especially the part where they had to consider real time translation for 4 languages.

[@tardarsauce1842]

Germany and Japan: gets heavy war crimes Fascist Italy: *You guys have war crimes?*

[@felinesmite5170]

Italian resistance killed Mussolini and the upper echelons of the Fascist Party before the Nuremberg Trials.

[@felinesmite5170]

@Lo Fell Dude. While undoubtedly the Italian Communist Party was responsible for rising and organizing many partisan groups, resisting against Fascism was actually the common point between a variety of different political forces (and actually the only thing Italian Communists and Italian Chatolics ever agreed about). The Fascist Party obtained power by maliciously using the loopholes of Italy's democracy, and kept it through violence, segregation and propaganda. There's no doubts that Fascism was a violent dictatorship or that Italian communists participated in the toppling of this violent dictatorship without putting another violent dictatorship in its stead, and gladly accepted Italy becoming a democracy after WWII. Classifying a person or a group as 'good' or 'bad' according to their political label is simplistic, especially when that political label spans several decades and its claimed by tens of different parties and groups with very different end goals in mind. Saying that Italian Communist groups played an important role in liberating their country from oppression, doesn't absolve other Communist groups for the atrocities they committed in the name of their ideology, including later Italian radical communist groups who committed act of terrorism to further their political goals. Viceversa, doing good things in the interest of the common people like establishing a public welfare and retirement system, doesn't absolve Fascism for its crime against humanity during WWII or for later Italian Fascist groups who committed acts of terrorism to further their political goals. We can celebrate good and heroic acts regardless of the political label used by who did them. And killing Fascist leaders was absolutely a good thing to do in Italy in 1945.

[@phillipq5814]

Meanwhile evil fascist Spain stayed out of the war. Being neutral.

[@thedevil2411]

@@felinesmite5170 Dude. Now you’re just stating your political opinion. I mean I’m all in for Mussolini to pay the price for what he did to his country in ww2. But killing him without an trial is straight up barbaric. And for the record, he was toppled by his own Fascist party’s members.

[@blauwbeer556]

What did Italy even do? Besides the war what did Benito actually do??

[@unseendawnproductions8267]

So killing 1 person gives you 20 years in prison but 12 million gives you 10?

[@CaiusCosades44]

@Jim McCracken lol

[@Kog233]

That’s like saying 1 life=24,000,000

[@Echo5427_]

@Jim McCracken when millions die*

[@bigiron1311]

Each person should be punished for the whole?

[@okretard8285]

oy vey

[@Pan472]

"Why the USSR was not convicted as well?" They were one of the victors. Victors write history. If they were the losers, Stalin himself would be hanged.

[@noctain6683]

They should have made these rules after WW1.

[@kaidenhall2718]

They kinda tried a little tiny little bit

[@quasar7951]

The Germans did no-no stuff in Belgium and the Ottomans did no-no stuff in Armenia

[@quasar7951]

@@aldoushuxley5953 still not exactly a crime that should go unpunished either

[@quasar7951]

@@aldoushuxley5953 I know I was just listing the atrocities that came to my head at that moment, I was trying to think of some entente ones but couldn't think of any

[@quasar7951]

@@aldoushuxley5953 I wasn't meaning to compare the two on the same levels

[@jackcassidy7317]

I’m re-watching all of my liked videos starting from the beginning and I’m about halfway through. This video and the video on the Tokyo trials were incredibly interesting and taught me a lot about topics I didn’t know much on.

[@AdamDguitars]

Most common excuse at the trials: “I was just following orders.”

[@bluesrike]

If they said that today, the response would be "If the furher ordered you to shoot your family, friends and/or loved one's, would you?"

[@blauwbeer556]

It is more psychological rather than a real excuse, somebody tried an experiment to see wtf is happening

[@commisaryarreck3974]

@@bluesrike "Do you have a gun to your head and a guarantee that they'll be shot regardless of your actions" Cowards will say they'd never do that. Reality is most people will just follow orders, out of fear or because it's an authoritative figure

[@The_Smiurgh]

@@bluesrike true

[@RollingBobbyJones]

I know yall dumb but uh if someone was holding you at gun point would you follow orders? not just you before you say yes, but your family too? Authoratian Governments: Not even once

[@petartoshkov2076]

12:50 "Joachim von Ribbentrop - guilty of building up a treaty of dividing Poland, sentenced to death" Vyacheslav Molotov: *cha cha real smooth*

[@iamsearchingforthefiletmignon]

They divided Germany. So is it any different

[@vedeeski]

@@iamsearchingforthefiletmignon He was refering to the molotov-ribbentrop pact which was about Germany and Ussr invading and divding Poland in 1939

[@navonmyhand7999]

Lmao this one is really funny, when you think of all the people that technically got away with crimes just because they weren't Nazis it's almost silly.

[@nicolaiandersen1402]

@@navonmyhand7999 Well... the victors are the ones who write history

[@b_de_silva]

@@nicolaiandersen1402 ehhh no, in fact most of what western schools teaches we're based on german generals that survived the war, which is why they always blame hitler for the bad decisions in the war, history is written by historians, who use data from both side of the war, if history was written by the winner you would never even heard of things like dresden, those trials didn't include allied generals because how the fuck do you convince your allies to execute their own generals? the reality is that sentencing allied generals was impossible since the allies won, but that is not winners writing history, its winners getting away with the bad stuff they did.

[@rickymelchor1411]

I think every soviet was looking around nervous

[@toxicatto6074]

'Every soviets'? You mean every allied power?

[@jasonbrody1540]

Of course they were. After all they assisted Hitler and the Nazis to start the war.

[@technopriest6708]

Taking that they ended up killing twice as many its probable

[@johanreillo8403]

Spartan Moreno exactly they were the ones that do the most of the killing and dying

[@natedlc854]

We shouldnt have stopped in Berlin and Tokyo. We should have kept going until the Pacific and European armies met in Siberia.

[@donarsenault2327]

My father,who passed 2 months ago, was a guard in the courthouse in 1946. I wish I could get more information or better photos of the guards. I’d like to see a photo of him in his younger days while performing his duty at such a historical event.

[@bruv2249]

uhhh, sorry to say this but... im pretty sure the Waffen S.S guarded the nuremburg trials

[@Austin-5098]

@@bruv2249 there were some, but it was mostly MPs from the various allied nations that guarded it iirc, mainly US MPs

[@DedRamOfficial]

@@bruv2249 Estonian Waffen S.S

[@user-fu7eh2mk5n]

I watched the video of the camps in Wikipedia, its been over a year since i last remembered crying. That video is indescribable man, God bless all those families whom met that fate.

[@mightyparrot1139]

my family members where slaughtered in the holocaust, thank you for the blessings.

[@Turntapp]

*Released in [Insert Year Here] due to ill health*

[@jarjarbinkssithlord834]

Then died a few years latter so I think they got the timing of the ill health correct...

[@lachieclements6859]

SkyZhakarov Sadly true.

[@mosherosenthal4321]

@@kushantaiidan you sound like a total moron. Read a textbook. You're an idiot

[@bar3ly.s3nt13nt]

@@mosherosenthal4321 *you're

[@Logan-oh2eg]

weird how they were sentenced to life in prison but released right before they died

[@baileyayyy5085]

this is why we are morally obligated to bully nazai larping dweebs

[@Lugermorph1497]

OK boomer 😂😂😂 how's your mulatto son?

[@johnrockyryan]

Alot of them should have been put in the g- *censored because i dont wanna get banned*

[@StufiBuy]

‘Ok, I need a good lawyer. Wait, what happened to all the good attorneys in Deutschland? Before the war, we had so many good lawyers. What happened to them all?’ 🤦🏼‍♂️ Scheisse!

[@__Gum__]

Underrated

[@KCCC326]

Send this to Seth macfarland

[@bman228899]

When you need a good lawyer to defend yourself from accusations of crimes you did during and before the war which killed those good lawyers.

[@mecca777]

lol that was a good one!

[@Fred_the_1996]

*schweiße, not scheisse

[@elcompagenito3250]

"Hanz quick the last boat to Argentina is leaving!!"

[@The_Smiurgh]

XD

[@silverbloodborne9495]

Nur eine Sekunde, ich muss sicherstellen, dass die Amerikaner nicht wissen, dass wir zuerst die Atombomben gemacht haben

[@starmanjr.5785]

When you are executed for crimes against humanity that the Soviet Union also committed. Stalin: *Laughs in mustache* no, I would NEVER kill people for their beliefs.

[@MoffatLee]

@Brandon Rozman True, but many of the people punished at Nuremberg weren't punished for their part in extermination camps but for their part in the concentration camps using slave labour... like the gulags.

[@MSM4U2POM]

Look at the title of the London Charter, mate. It might be a clue...

[@bokbok5737]

Be like Stalin, he kills indescrimantly

[@rizzo9748]

@@MoffatLee Gulags never used the same treatments as Nazi did. Why are you so silly guys?

[@rizzo9748]

Nazi killed people not for their beliefs but for their nationality

[@TelmenBudsuren]

your honor my client was following orders from funny mustache man because he failed to get into artschool

[@TyudroWymoreEdgartyu2]

Just a quick note: Germany never invaded Finland. The USSR did.

[@matiasdelapena7521]

True that, but we are talking about Nuremberg and ww here, not the winter war.

[@TyudroWymoreEdgartyu2]

@@matiasdelapena7521 I was just mentioning the animation in the beginning where Germany's old flag invades Europe. The problem I was pointing out was that he also highlighted Finland, which just meant to me that this video was implying that Adolf put German boots on Finnish soil, which never actually happened. It was purely a Russian v Finland war, completely separate from the other warring parties.

[@matiasdelapena7521]

@@TyudroWymoreEdgartyu2 Yeah but Finland had an "informal alliance" with the Axis during ww2, invaded the USSR in the eastern front and signed a separate peace treaty

[@notsogoodgamer5818]

@@TyudroWymoreEdgartyu2 I mean he did put germans in finland. They even fought against eachother

[@censored4680]

@@matiasdelapena7521 shit is anyone seeing a trend with people taking the enemy of my enemy is my friend to the extreme I'm sure that the finns were not found of Hitler and the allies certainly didnt like stalin meanwhile the axis all realy didn't like each other at all like when Germany kept advisors in China during the Japanese invasions and Hitler being like "ok japan we don't get along but your at the top of your race ok but to Italy yall inferior" and so on and so forth

[@blazeiscrazy8737]

Funny how the Allies declared war to aide Poland but ended up just giving Poland to the U.S.S.R like they didn't exist.. lol.

[@TheMax6808]

Yeah its like they didn''t start the war to help Poland after all, kinda like they had ulterior motives 🤔

[@johnfrancisdoe1563]

maskence Well, at least they gave Poland a similarly sized piece of Germany in exchange for the part taken by the USSR. I'm unsure how different the current east border of Poland is from the pre-WW1 west border of Russia (back then Poland had no land). It's obviously different from the borders of Poland-Lithuania at it's most powerful.

[@halismeful]

Churchill did want to declare war on the soviet union to liberate Poland, which was the UK's condition for entering WW2, but not the US's. As such, the US wouldn't back the plan and it was called "Operation Unthinkable", because it wouldn't have worked and just allowed the Soviets to take over the rest of Europe by creating another war.

[@benadam7753]

@Incerthose A. IntoBee It's not that the Allies wanted it, World War 2 was declared on Germany to protect Polish sovereignty so only a free Poland was the acceptable outcome. Giving Poland to the brutal dictator Stalin was a total contradiction for the declaration of war!

[@chases7941]

Given that the allies just fought a world war, I doubt they saw any political gain at the time in fighting another so soon with a fully charged meat grinder.

[@uncle6550]

imagine having the last name as "Frick". that in itself, is a war crime.

[@konradsartorius7913]

Better than Julius Fuick

[@peacelove728]

Or Fritz as the first name.

[@ivana9269]

I know a Fricky

[@chezkelhui1010]

Walther Funk:

[@toxicgoat341]

least his name wasn't baldur

[@tomato7060]

Wait why did Rudolph Hess get life in prison. Didn’t he try to stop the war?? 💀

[@something1600]

Still invaded Poland and Czechoslovakia.

[@laisphinto6372]

he Essential was second in command before his capture although he wasnt taken seriously by all the higher up Nazis

[@tomato7060]

@@laisphinto6372 Ah gotcha. Still seems like a pretty harsh punishment.

[@kaizouttv]

Lmfao Hitler: Attacks literally everything in reach Sweden: Lmao why y’all complaining we chilling

[@prolainen8997]

Switzerland: bruh just be neutral lmao

[@arjanwilbie2511]

The Dutch tried to stay neutral, did not work.

[@Jvincent044]

Arjan Wilbie only didn’t work cause they believed the uk were going to invade them first to take resource supplies from the Germans both countries had plans to invade if the other did and when the Germans thought the UK were going to attempt it they invaded first, during that though the uk thought the Germans were sending their navy to the Atlantic to hurt trade and had no intention of invading at that time

[@MoffatLee]

@@Jvincent044 Yep, similar story with Norway too, Germany invaded Norway then left a garrison of around 500k men to prevent the UK from threatening German access to Swedish steel among other things. The UK intentionally leaked plans for moving on Norway in order to spread the German forces and supplies more if I remember right.

[@athena1428]

Spain and Portugal: sleeping peacefully

[@XBBBBBXx]

i took 4 years of history classes in germany talking about ww2 and yet these 17 minutes taugth me a ton of things i did not know. good job

[@Alexis2andsoOn]

well, you could've just looked it up on wikipedia...

[@u.h.forum.]

Ezio Auditore 4 years of ww2 lessons in Germany?

[@kampfmuffin3535]

These things are just small details who have little to non effects on the big picture. Thats the reason stuff like that isnt thaught in school

[@timowagner1329]

You didnt know about the nuremberg trials???

[@kampfmuffin3535]

@@timowagner1329 i do but i think he meant stuff like how they defended them selfes

[@promosolo]

I've seen many documentaries about the atrocities of World War 2 and the Nuremberg Trials, but few are as succinctly presented as this one. Thank you.

[@EEEEEEEE]

E‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎

[@timoh1712]

Man... They committed horrible crimes, but dangling for half an hour before dying is rough

[@unclejoeoakland]

Think of it as a temporary suspension of sentence.

[@dragonmandestructinator2847]

I've heard theories that some people pulled some strings and got those executions botched on purpose.

[@unclejoeoakland]

@@dragonmandestructinator2847 i like how you think

[@pumpkin6429]

lol not long enough. 😂

[@shanewright2772]

He just wanted to hang around a little bit longer.

[@fifervonpiper6707]

Option 2: death sentence for everyone "This was disliked by Churchill and Roosevelt at that time." The USSR meanwhile: *Laughs in Option 2*

[@tesso.6193]

figures Churchill would dislike it. he put people in concentration camps and committed genocide himself but the victims were people of colors so everyone still considers him a hero.

[@streamlinedengine]

Oh please, not this nonsense again. I’ll list out some major offences of Churchill to save you the trouble: - Famine in India, but he still wants them to ship food to Europe - Gallipoli Campaign - Gas used against Iraq Now tell me when he organised concentration camps, darling?

[@blenterbl]

Streamlined Engine you forgot pressuring Ireland to go civil war

[@WolfbloodJakeWilliams]

The gas used was tear gas, Churchill actually advocated for its use since the other option was bullets. People think it was chlorine or mustard gas, but it wasn't what was used in WWI, it was what is still used by police forces all around the world.

[@mikegordon4903]

USSR was hanging them at the camps before anyone else got there.

[@luigifan001]

Remember that history is written by the winners

[@Suksass]

Yes, but our grandparents litterally lived through these times and told us stories. Survivors told about their experience. We know it to be a factual history.

[@Nolant.]

Franz halder

[@leocarlsson3753]

This is absolutely fantastic. Brief, but not too brief to just gloss over the important subject. You speak clearly, yet nuanced. And at the same time you summarise excellently what I had 6 hours of university lectures going through.

[@georglp3006]

I totally agree

[@Green4CloveR]

"Discount anything awful you hear or read about the Nazis. It’s worse than you could ever imagine." -Audrey Hepburn

[@eavyeavy2864]

History is written by winner

[@SomethingBizzare60]

@@eavyeavy2864 lol uh oh

[@yoboyluis3926]

@@eavyeavy2864 found the sympathizer

[@doktorduggieducker9615]

@@yoboyluis3926 found the blinded fool

[@lukefreeman828]

@@doktorduggieducker9615 lmfao, whats 'blinded' about it exactly? Nazi ideology is utterly indefensible, but I'm sure you've found some fellow plebs on the internet that want to believe otherwise.

[@regularhuman6414]

Stalin: stop stealing my kills!

[@endloesung_der_braunen_frage]

lol!

[@farmersneed]

Rule 1 of the Nuremberg Code: The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion Surprised this video hasn't gotten taken down for Covid-19 vaccine disinformation.

[@pako5586]

You being a dumb ass and getting sick procures a involuntary danger of other people of the public. You violate thier freedoms with yours please under stand whats positive and negative freedom before you speak

[@farmersneed]

@@qwertboo399 Any medicine or drugs that are new or experimental require no duress or harsh repercussions for saying no to taking it. Getting fired from your job or being denied services throughout the city you may live in are examples of overreaching and duress.

[@eurasianlynx5584]

I love how often black white red were used!

[@finnishwehraboo8377]

Ehehehhhhh

[@legacylegacy3627]

Eurasian Lynx many German like that flag cause it reminded them of German were at the height of everything before ww1 and eventually Turing a Reich that thought they could do that again

[@raphaelalexandreyensen6291]

The red black and white as a very nice touch

[@thefloysie8742]

Eurasian Lynx they were used as a flag of the German empire in world war 1

[@jannikraeder8464]

i watched this video as part of research for an assignment on "evil" in psychology class. when i saw erich raeder at 13:44 i jumped to the edge of my bed. my last name is extremely rare, even in germany. and he looked very similar to my grandfather. my grandfather died a couple of years ago, but i asked my grandmother, and she confirmed that i am indeed related to him. apparently it was kept a secret in the family. besides my grandmother and my grandfather, only my uncle knew about it. if you wanna talk about being wierded out or mind blown, try finding out that you are actually related to the last leader of the third reich, and finding several pictures on the internet of your great grandfather hanging out with Adolf Hitler. what's even more wierd is that the topic of my assignment was primarely about how genetic heritage and cultural influence plays a significant role in human evil. as you can imagine, i'm pretty much having an existential crisis right now.

[@blauwbeer556]

Dunno seems kinda cool to me in a weird way. I ain't no nazi but it is like learning you are related to Churchill, I don't care what he did to the Indians, it is still kinda cool

[@Velu0]

I just imagined it right now and this must be... wierd, scary, mad and exciting (and many more) at the same time...

[@historynerd8373]

The only thing to keep in mind is that you control your destiny. It can be up to you to pick up the name that has been kicked in the mud.

[@havensohn3821]

Idk I'd feel pretty compelled to marry a Jew and make sure that I expel the evil out of me by doing the opposite of my ancestors. These coincidences leading to your existential crisis is a chance to be better than any of your asshole ancestors.

[@maxmoore497]

Who else came here after “Thomas was only following orders”

[@averagetboihater8357]

same

[@awesomedude3432]

@@averagetboihater8357 lol me three

[@mrluthfians01]

Me four

[@jaydensplayden551]

Me 5

[@BigBrother_316]

woah, me 6

[@biffman6]

2:03 I'm sure that was Stalin's favorite option out of the three

[@user-fu2pl7jc9j]

It was actually the French that suggested it...

[@JerzyFeliksKlein]

@Félix Sánchez They actually haven't. They recruited former Nazis to serve in the new communistic secret police Stasi. That way they knew they will be loyal and obiedient because they could be killed at any moment for simply being Nazis during the war. Also, they were highly trained and qualified having served in the Nazi war machine. That's why Stasi became even better than KGB over time.

[@alcabone1126]

To be fair 20-30 million russians died

[@syntheticvocalist-p472]

@@user-fu2pl7jc9j that still makes a lot of sense.

[@sub-zero5679]

The fact that Soviet Union passed a judgement over Nazi's for atrocities committed against human rights was the biggest irony in History Histories!

[@NuvolinaSospesa]

Seriously?! The British and French don't have a reputation for having respected human rights in the colonies. None of them were truly innocent the irony is everywhere. The fact that we needed a monster like Hitler to decide that universal human rights exist is ridiculous ( and we still haven't learned our lesson)

[@abinashtarai6067]

@@NuvolinaSospesa gulag 😑

[@rnklv8281]

When you go to court you don't necessarily get justice, you get the law.

[@peacelove728]

British Empire had the biggest body count of the three, FYI. Tens and tens of millions starved to death just in India.

[@NuvolinaSospesa]

​@annonymous2223 so the Aborigines Protection Amending Act doesn't exist, South Africa is a mytological country and the Jallianwala Bagh massacre was just a missunderstanding?! We should collectively accept our past and stop denying what happened. Just because the Nazi did terrible things efficiently to other white people doesn't erase the ill treatment natives received in the colonies.

[@dieziy8162]

I watched about 20 mins of the footage used for evidence, i am a pretty desensitized guy and i was starting to see shit that made me tear up and made me sick

[@HistoryScope]

Same here.

[@amberslahlize7961]

That should really tell you something fundamental about yourself, and them.

[@matthewhadley9483]

@@desertsane who cares

[@matthewhadley9483]

@Lo Fell the camps were a lot worse in Germany

[@ohno6528]

lol noob

[@flickcentergaming680]

The translation system they thought of is absolutely brilliant! I had no idea that that was how international legal proceedings are carried out. Edit: spelling

[@Nesqwikz]

Every SS officer during the trials: " I do not like killing people, that is my least favourite thing to do"

[@princeofgreece9054]

Mutant Spartacus These kinda of comments are always so cringe....

[@maximiliannelson3509]

Judge: So if I told you to kill me, you would totally not want to do that, right? SS officer: *Sweat starts to bead on forehead*

[@sniffles3585]

But think of all the perfectly roasted faces we get to munch on now

[@Speedojesus]

"...But I did it anyway."

[@jozzzlyn]

@The Coward Liberius do you do this to anyone who disagrees with you to discredit them in your own little echo chamber

[@blibdo3216]

Now I understand Thomas was only following orders. Thank you so much.

[@Fred_the_1996]

Choo choo

[@mikenoakes5036]

KZbin really wants me to watch this, I guess.

[@JoviaI1]

I really want to watch this!

[@mikenoakes5036]

Honestly I thought it was well done. I always like learning new things in a visual format from Kurzgesagt and others. :D

[@williamcooper8599]

+Arya Sattya How is it propaganda. I'm not doubting you I just seek truth.

[@Jonathan-pz6ws]

Yeah.. Even though I already watched this trial on Netflix :)

[@jimboramba]

Not good enough. Watch again.

[@johannsebastianbach9003]

Every German General in Nuremberg *see's an image if Hitler* German Generals: *I have never met this man in my life*

[@robertandrews6915]

Don’t it just make your blood boil to hear all those men “released for ill health?” Most of them showed no mercy or compassion and they should not enjoy an easy death.

[@sophienugre4161]

I kind of wonder if it was about not wanting to foot the bill.

[@temtem9255]

Because that is not justice but revenge 2:10

[@nicolaieanghel3736]

Coughs in the 20 million innocents killed by the USSR

[@robertandrews6915]

Nicolaie Anghel I don't even try to understand ussr stuff. Germany invaded Poland, Britain and France declare war, ussr invaded Poland 2 or 3 weeks later and nothing? My guess is nobody wanted to fight them so it was ignored and idk if people knew for sure Germany would invade them nearly 2 years later and they wanted help with Germany. Maybe the good ol' Pyrrhic victory. Plus everyone knows about napoleon but I wondered how an attack with US from eastern Russia and nato from the west would've gone

[@pensa6709]

Soviet Union could be checked on all of the 4 categories

[@marijamalisheva]

Pensa History is written by victors

[@darthvader1185]

None is innocent

[@jeffhoward162]

So could the US.

[@sambryce321]

Jeff Howard Noam chomsky did a great piece on how every president broke at least one law used in the trial.

[@Cjnw]

And USA

[@lila_harris]

My great grandmother was a translator at the trials.

[@blur-blade4981]

As Göring said: if they had not lost, then the allies would be in trials

[@austinbosh7402]

@Cian McCabe I'll have you know the Allied powers commited war crimes too during the war. Just because the Allies were fighting on the right side doesn't mean they're excusable of the crimes they commited. The Soviets commited the most war crimes, while the British and Americans fell behind.

[@hall511]

@@rhodesianwojak2095 Yes because killed a couple hundred innocents is comparable to ordering the violent executions of literally millions of people.

[@rhodesianwojak2095]

@@hall511 >a couple hundred 👌🕎

[@hall511]

@@rhodesianwojak2095 Yeah the allies sure did kill millions.

[@rhodesianwojak2095]

@@hall511 ok wahhabist

[@mysteryyoshi4917]

Only here cause I watched a thomas the engine meme that memed thomas being in this and needed to know what the trials meant.

[@Eldoradoll7]

Thomas was only following orders

[@RandomPerson-fu3ro]

...same

[@SinanPurtas]

Me too iol

[@SamGTA4]

Thomas was only following orders.

[@mrm2542]

I'm curious. How old are you and where do you live that you don't know about the Nuremberg trials? I'm not disrespecting you I'm just a little shocked

[@mycattypedthis2827]

I'm an interpreter and we've never been taught the proper history of simultaneous interpretation in my university. We've only been told something vague like "yeah it'd been used for a while and became widely used when EU was formed". I wish I had known this back then...

[@regulargamer1991]

I was just following CHO directives

[@blukester7994]

"I was just following orders" Pretty much everyone on earth: I don't think so

[@cooperhawk988]

1:44 “how could any country consent to such an action” IDK. Ask Japan how they got everyone to sweep their crimes under the rug

[@HistoryScope]

You didn't watch my Tokyo Trial video, did you? :(

[@cooperhawk988]

History Scope I have. Gotta say most of the Tokyo trial defendants got off easier than the Nuremberg trial ones.

[@sparklingwater1430]

Say that to the innocent children killed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki at the hands of America

[@melonboi927]

@@sparklingwater1430 yeah tell that to the innocent children of China, and any other country and our island Japan invaded and systematically killed

[@sparklingwater1430]

@@melonboi927 ok so its the justified now lovely

[@tommyshelby9899]

During Nuremberg trials Culprits - "A man with a mustache forced me to do it"

[@technopriest6708]

Which moustache

[@zemowit]

That's a legal defense, no?

[@locqlordcaston888]

Humans are sheep if you was there during the time you would commit the same crimes

[@Karl_der_Genosse]

@@locqlordcaston888 And then I would deep down understand the sentence tbh.

[@victoriamoralesrudloff3770]

Actually, none of the accused were tried for genocide. The word genocide was created in 1944 due to the mass killings of the Jewish people. Before 1944, it was known as "the crime with no name", and only referred to as "mass killings", often toward a certain group of people because of race, religion, ethnicity, etc. Yes, the word genocide was used in the trials, but only as a descriptive word in the sentencing, not as a legal word, so it wasn´t really a crime yet. In 1946, for the first time in international legislation, a UN resolution used the term "crime of genocide", and gave a definition. Later on, in 1951, the International Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide was officially adopted.

[@Cielord]

ur point being? it's just because a word doesn't exist doesn't mean what it describe don't exist

[@Deathworks1]

The guy with the mustache made us do it-German officers Cool motive still murder-the judges

[@Deathworks1]

Vast I will go look at it

[@kaisercalvin1742]

"Navy guy should not be indicted for crimes that the allies also committed."- random lawyer. Stalin: I totally do not have the same thing in the USSR. How dare you say otherwise. Go to the gula- er, I mean, go to a trial.

[@someoneirrelevant6815]

Death was too easy of a way out for them.

[@kingviwl]

I’m glad you didn’t show that documentary. I got disturbed by the boy in the striped pyjamas for months.

[@colerinne3021]

28 minutes? That hangman was a pro

[@warroach]

2:00 😂 ofcourse stalin was thought this was a great idea knowing him

[@dakota6050]

He very disliked germans since of their atrotocities, anti communism, and ww1

[@levistrauss5378]

How do you put someone on trial for splitting up Poland when Russia did the same thing on the same treaty with no repercussions?

[@suatemrekaraman6752]

9:05 i love it when "military" doesn't change place.

[@Flupenius]

5:01 I just realised you made the German reich flag out to those things.

[@binaryryuga6515]

FInally someone realised

[@HistoryScope]

;)

[@ps4tv614]

I honestly don’t get it sorry

[@HistoryScope]

The flag of the German empire is the red white and black, which I used in the three colours at 5:01

[@user-df1jq2lp1k]

Which is a insult against the Kaiserreich. Mixing the Kaiserreich flag into the nazis is just an insult.

[@valeriekeefe8898]

And what we've learned in the 2020s is that these are legal standards that aren't upheld, so the real charge is "lost a war".

[@rhysnichols8608]

“Out of the 139 cases we reviewed, all but 2 of the SS men in custody had their Testicles smashed beyond repair” - US state department report on the Nuremberg trails 1946

[@boercharel4358]

yeah that definatly not a warcrime

[@Muffinmurdurer]

Good. Smash nazi balls.

[@rhysnichols8608]

boer sjarel It’s pathetic we are expected to believe testimonies from men who were tortured and had their families threatened.

[@boercharel4358]

@@rhysnichols8608 well it wasnt really the validity of their testemonies bc it was all "documented" it was more the validity of the charges. Most of them were just leaders of a country that lost the war.

[@gerardsotxoa]

@@boercharel4358 no genius, it was not documented, that's why they needed testimonies. The made up "evidence" presented by the prosecutors wasn't good enough to get honest confessions, that's why they smashed some balls.

[@fabioferrarese5600]

5:00 i see what you did there with the flag

[@youngdumbandeverythinginbe4680]

What white flag...?

[@cmdrgarbage1895]

@@youngdumbandeverythinginbe4680 It's the flag of German Empire

[@finnishwehraboo8377]

@@williamwinters5505 wut

[@dersuddeutschesumpf5444]

@@williamwinters5505 no it isn't

[@-socialcredit]

@@dersuddeutschesumpf5444 what do yu mean?

[@Danymok]

Kinda weird that the Nazis received trials that were more fair than the basically non-existant ones in the Soviet Union at the time. I feel like Stalin would not have liked the trials for that reason.

[@someoneelse878]

Anyone who would call on the soviets to answer for their crimes as well has a poor understanding of what the general war attitude was by 1946. Stalin would never have consented to his people being tried and executed, and a war with the soviets would have been costly and effectively unwinable for both sides. Churchills "Operation Unthinkable" was barebones at best. By 1946, the world, and especially Europe, were sick of war. There would have been no way to justify another pointless slaughter in the name of perceived justice. I will be the first to admit that Stalin, and by extension the Soviet Union, were in many ways worse than the National Socialists. However, saying "Well amuricah and britin shood hev made the soviets payyy!1!!" is both stupid, pointless, and pointlessly stupid.

[@Feffdc]

How were the Soviets in many ways worse than the nazis?

[@someoneelse878]

@@Feffdc Stalin intentionally planned the starvation of thousands, as well as his own version of concentration camp, the gulag. The soviet union is to communism what Nazi's are to fascism.

[@Feffdc]

@@someoneelse878 Gulag was a labour camp(something that existed for centuries in many countries) that you were sentenced for around 5 years.The concentration camps were extermination camps.I think you now know the difference.And what you are refering to as intentional Starvation is holodomor but there is no evidence of intentional Starvation since it not only affected ukrainians but also russians and other enthnicities while serious droughts happened.And almost all countries recognise it as a tragedy except the usa and of course ukraine and some others.You got that lazy historian?

[@stopitnowlol6697]

He did many of the things to his own people. Not that that’s any better

[@kevishader3561]

@@Feffdc Stalin even reused former German concentration camps as Gulags. His hands were 100% dirty

[@codexviolet7663]

"To give the order to kill thousands of people, regardless of whether they committed any war crimes or not. This action was disliked by both Roosevelt and Churchill at the time..." Stalin may need another minute to think about it lol.

[@morbidsearch]

Churchill could have also used another minute since the Bengali famine was a thing

[@simondungeon1218]

@@morbidsearch nice

[@deakenwylie3819]

Thank you for posting this. It does, as you yourself say (and as, in fact, it simply must), gloss over some things, but I found it educational and a good starting point to do more reading. Again, thanks.

[@GrigRP]

Why weren't the allies convicted for Tokyo and Dresden firebombing?

[@zachb1706]

Because they won

[@notachinesespypleasebeliev8954]

It’s almost like the axis did the same and did it much more to the allies.

[@k2ggers961]

@@notachinesespypleasebeliev8954 Oh, it's ok that I killed this man's entire family because he did it first!

[@notachinesespypleasebeliev8954]

@@k2ggers961 Dresden was sad and unfortunate, but the Axis did Dresden on London and other British cities for years and basically nuked Warsaw and wiped clean Russian cities from the face of the planet. Also Japan literally raped the Capital of China and killed millions. Sorry that the Allies killed a few thousand civilians while the Axis killed millions of civilians.

[@k2ggers961]

@@notachinesespypleasebeliev8954 Still doesn't excuse letting the culprits go scot free.

[@Datroflshopper]

Sounds like Ribbentrop got a pretty raw deal given the Soviets agreed to his treaty

[@vasilykovalenko697]

BTAX He actually got trialed, because he signed the treaty, while knowing, that Germany was going to invade The Soviet Union.

[@keeszeldenproducts]

Also, as you know, the judiciary is independent from the executive. A Soviet judge could convict the German for signing the illegal treaty, but the judge had no jurisdiction over the Soviet Union as per the london treaty.

[@vasilykovalenko697]

Total Psycho480 oh, I didn’t know that-thanks a lot!