Yukon Hunter/Bush Pilot Crashes Super Cub

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Greg McHale's Wild Yukon

Greg McHale's Wild Yukon

Күн бұрын

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@dhyde9207
@dhyde9207 5 жыл бұрын
Total respect for being willing to completely share the whole experience including what you perceive as your mistakes. I learned a lot from this, and I've been a pilot for 40 years.
@02markcal
@02markcal 5 жыл бұрын
I agree, sharing this may help others like yourself with a lot of experience.
@milnei
@milnei 5 жыл бұрын
Credit to you sir! An honest, clear and concise evaluation without either glorifying it or trying to avoid blame! As others have said, I’d fly with you anytime 👍
@VMCAviationVideos
@VMCAviationVideos 5 жыл бұрын
Yup, I 100% agree with you
@rmjthunder
@rmjthunder 5 жыл бұрын
I was raised that way
@GregMcHalesWildYukon
@GregMcHalesWildYukon 4 жыл бұрын
Ian Milner thank you very much sir!
@masonhaddox504
@masonhaddox504 2 жыл бұрын
@@GregMcHalesWildYukon how do I become a bush pilot in Alaska I have no idea where to start
@angelreading5098
@angelreading5098 5 жыл бұрын
With your total honesty you have helped others Greg,and saved lives too.
@a.flowers8737
@a.flowers8737 5 жыл бұрын
I could tell this was a tough story to tell....you have probably saved someones life by relating this experience. Thank You
@martinreynolds2247
@martinreynolds2247 5 жыл бұрын
Greg, seriously a lot of respect owning up to this and telling the story! It takes guts, and pride is the sacrifice. Anyhow, just a few comments. I learned to fly in sunny South Africa. We have to deal with density altitude there all the time (The 3 H's.). Flying in 35 degree Celsius is nothing, and you learn to deal with it. Mostly the difference between a safe landing / take-off in that kind of weather is simply runway length. A few things I've learned: Always be prepared to do a go-around (which actually means, don't fully commit to the landing); have your own, hard and fast personal limits; and finally always leave a little bit margin for error. Hope this helps!! Safe flying and well done again on a "landing you could walk away from". In the end, an aeroplane is replaceable.
@GregMcHalesWildYukon
@GregMcHalesWildYukon 5 жыл бұрын
Martin Reynolds Thank you very much Martin, I will take your comment and add it to my toolbox. I truly appreciate your experience and advice.
@kurtak9452
@kurtak9452 3 жыл бұрын
Great debriefing! I have a 160 Super Cub here in Alaska and have been flying for many years and I appreciate your insight into your incident and learned some good take-aways.
@mitchcronin8689
@mitchcronin8689 6 ай бұрын
To acknowledge your complacency demonstrates a very healthy outlook for your future, I'd say. Good on ya sir! Overconfidence and complacency can be tough killers to beat, but with awareness and mindfulness comes wisdom. Thank you for this well done video describing your "incident". I think it will help others.
@thomasmurray1807
@thomasmurray1807 5 жыл бұрын
I too have crashed a Kitfox two years ago. Had a 26 inch tundra tire come off on landing and my wife and I were along for the ride after that. I too had made a mistake using the wrong kind of bolts and nuts on the wheel. The landing gear plowed into the grass and flipped the plane over totaling the plane. Thank God we were not hurt seriously. After putting so much time into building the plane the emotional aspect was greater than the injuries. I have built another one since and have only 11 hrs on it. We all make mistakes. Thanks for telling us yours. We all learn better from our mistakes, at least I do. Well done.
@twickersruss
@twickersruss 5 жыл бұрын
Did the bolts sheer ? Were they the correct tesile rating i.e aircraft bolts or commercial steel?
@thomasmurray1807
@thomasmurray1807 5 жыл бұрын
@@twickersruss I used grade 8 course tread. A mistake. The nuts on the inside stripped out so that there was no tread on the inside. Should have used aircraft grade bolts and fine tread. They are made so the bolt will break before the nuts strip out. Had 119 hrs on the fox with original landing gear. I put on 26 Dresser tires and 8 inch rims from Matco with a 1 inch extension for dual caliper clearance which made the bolts a little longer. I had only 20 landings with the new setup before the tire came off. Bummer
@twickersruss
@twickersruss 5 жыл бұрын
@@thomasmurray1807 that is really bad luck. I am working on my Taylor Monoplane landing gear wheels at the moment and will replace the supplied Azusa bolts (course thread I think) that came with the Azusa wheel with Aircraft AN type fine thread as a result of your experience. Its only money and I like to fly without worry! Azusa are for go Carts really but used allot in the UK where I am. Thanks for sharing your learned experience.
@zeldarobinson3382
@zeldarobinson3382 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome glad you never gave up and glad you and your wife are ok .
@GregMcHalesWildYukon
@GregMcHalesWildYukon 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing, and it’s great to hear you and your wife are all good.
@dougbourdo2589
@dougbourdo2589 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Greg. Not a pilot myself but an aviation fan. Much respect for your description to aid others.
@GregMcHalesWildYukon
@GregMcHalesWildYukon 5 жыл бұрын
Doug Bourdo thank you Sir!
@brucekratky7993
@brucekratky7993 5 жыл бұрын
Since you’ve had that experience, properly analyzed the events, have been constructively self critical, I’d fly with you anytime.
@GregMcHalesWildYukon
@GregMcHalesWildYukon 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Bruce it has been a very humbling experience.
@johnreed8872
@johnreed8872 4 жыл бұрын
Greg... I also would not hesitate to fly with or around you! Thanks again for sharing !
@johnreed8872
@johnreed8872 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your candor and honesty!! One of the very few good things to come out of things like this is that others can learn from your mistakes. Cory Robins recently had a little 'mishap ' I think it takes an exceptional type of person\aviator to " fess up " and own it! Give me humble honesty over cocky arrogance anytime! Thanks again and Blue Skies!
@GregMcHalesWildYukon
@GregMcHalesWildYukon 4 жыл бұрын
John Reed thank you Sir. My only hope in making this, was to hopefully help a fellow aviator from making my mistakes.
@victorfernandes2649
@victorfernandes2649 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience with such an honest explanation. That’s what makes average pilots into great Aviators! Fly safe!
@Z-Bart
@Z-Bart 6 ай бұрын
I'm not a pilot but I have great respect for anyone that shares their story to help others.
@jimbarnett8913
@jimbarnett8913 2 жыл бұрын
Greg, Thanks for making this video. I live in the lower 48 and just had an engine out where I had to land on a highway. Still don't know the cause. When we can share our experiences and help other pilots learn and be better pilots, that's definitely a plus. Glad yout alright.
@GregMcHalesWildYukon
@GregMcHalesWildYukon 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jim, I m glad to hear your ok w the engine out.
@alwynwallace2775
@alwynwallace2775 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Greg.
@azguitar
@azguitar 5 жыл бұрын
A brutally honest, and well-told story. Thank you for putting your ego aside to help others.
@MuckyWaters
@MuckyWaters 5 жыл бұрын
Thoughtful accident summary. Reminds me of the time I tried to take off out of a field with my ultralight. I parked my ultralight temporarily in a field for about a week and the grass got quite long in the middle part but it was shorter on the downwind side so I thought I could get airborne before hitting the tall grass. Problem was it was also a hot day and the ultralight didn't climb as fast as I expected it to so just as I got airborne I started dragging on the tall grass in the middle of the field which also prevented from climbing out. By the time I was solidly in the air I used up 3/4 of the field and I started calculating if I was going to clear the telephone lines I was heading towards. By the time I realized I might not make it I had no field left to land and was not high or fast enough to turn around. My only hope of not crashing at that point was to optimize my climb and hopefully clear the powerlines. I, in fact, did make it, but I only cleared the power lines by a foot or so. I kicked myself many times for letting things get to the point where I cut things that close
@zeldarobinson3382
@zeldarobinson3382 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you shared these experiences can help every pilot or hopeful out their .Stay safe
@hollytour
@hollytour 5 жыл бұрын
After over 50 years and thousands of hours of backcountry flying in NZ much of it in a Super Cub and C185 I congratulate you on your story. Your summary of what went wrong and why will hopefully assist future pilots. After landing on many one way strips with no hope of an overshoot once committed to a landing on final I can understand that split second decision you had to make. "Do I go or do I stay" That decision comes from experience and learning from the experiences of others. Experience can sometimes been hard won. Good on you for sharing
@dahveed284
@dahveed284 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing. When things don't turn out like we would have wanted them to, its important to do "failure analysis" and answer the question "what could I have done differently that would have resulted in a better outcome?" You have done that and you are better off for it. Even better you have shared your failure so total strangers to you could maybe benefit from your mistakes. Thank you! I glad you walked away.
@patrickrheaume6984
@patrickrheaume6984 6 ай бұрын
Glad you made it through this. Admirable and honorable, humble. RESPECT.
@StudioRV8
@StudioRV8 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being humble enough to share your experience.
@NearlyNativeNursery
@NearlyNativeNursery 5 жыл бұрын
Greg, glad you made it through the crash. I appreciate your honest and humble attitude and owning your mistake. We should own all of our mistakes. I learn tons of of how to not make a mistake by watching many crashes just like your. All the Very Best. jim from Georgia.
@GregMcHalesWildYukon
@GregMcHalesWildYukon 5 жыл бұрын
Jim Rodgers thanks Jim, I hope that I can help someone someday. I appreciate your comments.
@allenc5108
@allenc5108 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Your honesty goes a long way to help you and others learn from this incident. High density altitude, full gross and unfamiliar landing area are extremely challenging. I flew bush in the Yukon for ten years. I always worked up slowly to unfamiliar landing areas, increasing the load as I became more confident. The one thing you, and no one else, has mention is the drag on the wheels from the tall grass, possibly a bigger factor than density altitude. It accounts for a lot more than you might realize. High, hot, heavy and tall grass all add up. I agree with your assessment , the big error was trying a go around. You probably would have gotten away with it or at least done minimal damage. You have the right attitude, keep going!
@mustangsally5901
@mustangsally5901 5 жыл бұрын
You walked away from a crash, you learned alot, and did analysis of failure point evaluation. Huge progress, and are alive to fly another day, good for you.
@airlandnsea
@airlandnsea 8 ай бұрын
Man, what s great story, well told in the most humble way.
@flyboy2745
@flyboy2745 5 жыл бұрын
Yes hot weather can get you. lost an F86 in 1952 in Korea due to high heat and short runway.
@1compaqedr8
@1compaqedr8 5 жыл бұрын
How was the ejection experience?
@flyboy2745
@flyboy2745 5 жыл бұрын
It was the worst back adjustment I have ever experienced. It was worth it
@dafellmd
@dafellmd 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you survived!!
@jonkruger7145
@jonkruger7145 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched this twice. First time was a year ago when I was a new pilot and second time was today. It means a lot more to me now after doing backcountry heavy loads a week ago in high temps. (Couldn’t climb very fast and sunk at higher speeds)Thanks for putting yourself out their to help us be better pilots.
@angelreading5098
@angelreading5098 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your honesty Greg and I hope you will get your Super Cub flying again,you have helped a lot of people.
@daryljohnson6333
@daryljohnson6333 5 жыл бұрын
Can tell you are humbled. Lots of lessons here for the backcountry landing checklist. 1. Density altitude 2. Plane loading and power 3. Surface of runway and drag on wheels, ie. weedy, wet, marshy 4. Camber of runway and runout 5. Is this a no go around runway in these conditions 6.Instead of the question “Can I land there?” Asking, “If I try to land there and can’t what’s my out?” Before attempting it. Thanks for sharing your lessons. It makes everyone safer!
@ClassXIRoads
@ClassXIRoads 5 жыл бұрын
Not everyone is as honest with themselves as you were in this video , I got my density altitude lesson on a hot summer day in South Texas..
@HARobbJr
@HARobbJr 5 жыл бұрын
I had an accident about a year ago. prop strike. totally my fault. c172. landed hard and flat and the plane started to porpoise. after the second big bounce. I knew I was going to go off the runway so I went full throttle but knew if I got off the ground I needed to push the nose down to pick up speed. I ended up going nose down into the runway and the nose wheel snapped off and then of course the prop strike. I walked away and am still flying, but I'll never forget it. let's just say I've been humbled a lot and maybe that's a good thing sometimes.
@robertsnetwork3290
@robertsnetwork3290 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being candid about being human. We make mistakes. If fortunate to live through them we learn from our mistakes if 1) we are open and honest with ourselves and others, such as you have 2) we don't repeat them. Thank you again for helping us all and being the example too many are not mature enough to share.
@Terribleguitarist89
@Terribleguitarist89 4 жыл бұрын
As a student this was extremely humbling. The intestinal fortitude it took to make this garners mad respect.
@GregMcHalesWildYukon
@GregMcHalesWildYukon 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Mykal. Stay safe!
@ceicher1
@ceicher1 5 жыл бұрын
All of us GA pilots out here genuinely appreciate this honest assessment of your incident. Thank you for the important lesson!
@curtisphillips4497
@curtisphillips4497 5 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your transparency and your willingness to discuss what happened. I'm thrilled it was not more serious and that you have your airplane back, but thank you, truly, for sharing this event with the pilot community.
@rickkimball6125
@rickkimball6125 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, that story was riveting. It's a great reminder to analyze and contemplate all the variables we are about to encounter with our aircraft (temp, humidity, weight calculations, field conditions, surrounding terrain, etc.). You appear to be an excellent pilot and your deconstruction of the incident is impressive. I, too, have caught myself lately being overconfident in the aircraft and I know that is a dangerous place to be...This video has been sobering and I appreciate your openness to share it.
@gerritdykgraaf2570
@gerritdykgraaf2570 5 жыл бұрын
Greg,, Thank you for sharing your experience with us. Going down has got to be one of the worst inner feelings a pilot can ever feel!! Setting your pride aside !! You were able to walk away man!! Boat loads of pilots would have loved to be in your shoes!! You are a living testament to the rest of us out here!! Live to learn from your mistakes and forever learn from others mistakes!! Fly Low,,, Fly Safe,,, G -Man
@DaveyCrockett001
@DaveyCrockett001 5 жыл бұрын
I was in a similar situation in a single otter on floats, northeast of yqh. Green on the airplane, I was tasked with hauling a guys gear out (not him) and it was high, density altitude and temp. I got on the step, thought about rejecting and ending up on the far shore 100 feet out of the water, because I knew it was not going well. Long story, staggered into the air, had to turn in the radius of the lake to avoid terrain, skimming trees and stall warning on. I managed to make the turn and even as I was heading back toward yqh, several times got into subsiding air and nearly bought it. That was a life lesson not worth repeating.
@GregMcHalesWildYukon
@GregMcHalesWildYukon 4 жыл бұрын
David Wiebe thank you for your story David, there is always something to be learned from near misses. I’m happy to here your experience, first hand. Cheers
@royhight6525
@royhight6525 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the story. Sometimes "stuff" happens. The whole thing is to walk away from it. Cheers, and I'd fly with you any day!
@jimhardee9834
@jimhardee9834 5 жыл бұрын
Glad all is well and that the plane was only bent. Our egos take a bigger beating, and you've proven to be better than that.
@warrenjbrown4898
@warrenjbrown4898 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being so real about this, posting it...bummer that it happened. The camber of the strip seems to me to be the main factor, destabilizing the landing, changing the whole thing, bringing on other factors and decisions...would be hard to detect that camber from the air on flyover...this video and experience is worth gold, thank you again. Really appreciated your humility = “...but I have to own it...” also a good example for all of us who fly. All the best!
@jamesonpace726
@jamesonpace726 5 жыл бұрын
Brother, I salute you for being man enough to share. I don't know that I'd tell the whole wide internet if I'd made this mistake. Yours must be made of the finest brass! And may the winds grant you favor, forever.
@gregmchale7957
@gregmchale7957 5 жыл бұрын
Jameson Pace Thank You Jameson! “Finest brass” lol. I appreciate your comments and support.
@brucebolla4148
@brucebolla4148 5 жыл бұрын
Well said. You have done our community a great service telling your story. I have over 27,000 flight hours but my next flight could be a disaster. You are spot on saying that accidents are caused by a combination of threats (usually at least three). I would also fly with you anytime.
@paulmacfarlane3027
@paulmacfarlane3027 5 жыл бұрын
The principal lesson seems to be that a threat assessment has to have adequate margins for error built into it. Flying too close to performance limits strips you of maneuverability when unexpected parameters like those you mentioned confound your calculations and judgements, like loss of flight control sensitivity due to increased density altitude, runway cant, drag from dense flora, etc.
@AerialPhotogGuy
@AerialPhotogGuy 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Greg :-) We all make mistakes and they usually do turn into compound mistakes. I'm just glad you were able to be reminded how fine the line is between safe and not safe but still able to walk away from it!! I've had a few close calls in my 32 years of flying, most of them were me being over confident. It's easy to ignore the unusual factors like the density altitude being higher than what you are used to. I've learned to follow my gut, meaning if it doesn't feel right, I don't do it if I have a choice, mechanical failures rarely leave us many good options. Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts!! :-) Joe
@arlynkraft3581
@arlynkraft3581 5 жыл бұрын
Been there and done that in winter on skis--learned the hard way U can put a Cub in a place U can not get out of. Never occurred to me until the snow settled that I could have safely gotten out if I would have unloaded the aircraft. That lesson remains with me 8000+ hrs later.
@gregmchale7957
@gregmchale7957 5 жыл бұрын
Arlyn, Im no 8K hrs later but my incident is still real fresh. Thank you for sharing. I still have not put either of my planes in ski's yet. looking forward to that though. Cheers
@MichaelLloyd
@MichaelLloyd 5 жыл бұрын
This kind of openness is the driver behind me getting back into flying. I'm glad you walked away and told the story. Big fan of the Super Cub. The little bit of tailwheel time was was fortunate enough to get was in a Super Cub. Subscribed...
@jeffgrave
@jeffgrave 5 жыл бұрын
It is nearly impossible to determine the thickness of brush/bushes/grass while trying to control an aircraft. Thanks for the story and the honesty, it will help a lot of pilots.
@miguelvaliente1475
@miguelvaliente1475 5 жыл бұрын
asses
@miguelvaliente1475
@miguelvaliente1475 5 жыл бұрын
asess. yeah
@rmjthunder
@rmjthunder 5 жыл бұрын
If you work in the fringe areas of aviation like bush flying and in my case crop dusting your going to have problems wear iron gets bent. If you keep those mistakes to a little bent iron and not have the iron wrapped up into a iron and aluminum coffin you have done good.
@savannaswildnatureworkshop7810
@savannaswildnatureworkshop7810 5 жыл бұрын
all crop duster have one thing in common, they drink coffee with both hands! ( bad shakes from chemical poisoning to the nervous system ) Karma..it's in the air, land and sea. Be careful what you spray... the bees will find you ( and the beekeepers ).
@rmjthunder
@rmjthunder 5 жыл бұрын
@@savannaswildnatureworkshop7810 After 40 years Im steady as a rock unless I scare the shit out of myself flying. What the hell you think we put it in our coffee instead of whisky. These comical are tested and retested taking a minimum of 10 years to hit the market. with them you would starving to death because organic faming can only produce 15 to 20 percent of what modern practices do. We are regulated by 7 different enforcement agencies that not only have the power to shut us down but also put us in jail if we don’t fallow the label directions to the word.
@Blogengezer
@Blogengezer 5 жыл бұрын
@@rmjthunder -Knew duster pilot's mom and dad. After one mishap, contact with a temp tel line augured him in, he was hospitalized for few days. The odor from the product that saturated him, permeated his room. After that mishap he returned to profession. Parents told me that he was never again ill.. with Anything. Must have set him up for a life of immunity.. lol
@ivanblack9999
@ivanblack9999 5 жыл бұрын
Admitting one's own mistakes is a testament to greatness and character. Everyone makes mistakes but you learn from them. I wish you some nice hours in the air. Greetings from Austria
@ziggy2shus624
@ziggy2shus624 5 жыл бұрын
How did you get the plane out. That would make a great video.
@GregMcHalesWildYukon
@GregMcHalesWildYukon 5 жыл бұрын
ziggy 2shus Sorry it took so long to reply. I have been in the bush for the last 3 months. Flew it out by chopper. I wasn’t there otherwise I would have had the video.
@mountainman78629
@mountainman78629 4 жыл бұрын
When I saw, how did you get it out, for some reason I thought of Peter sellers when he crashed his car into the swimming pool. For the second time. As a crane was getting the first car out. Drove right under the first car. Hilarious. It's one of those things you can look back and laugh at but it's nothing you want to become good at
@ziggy2shus624
@ziggy2shus624 4 жыл бұрын
@@GregMcHalesWildYukon Thanks for the reply. Bush flying is real flying.
@jimwhipple9784
@jimwhipple9784 5 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. The debrief and analysis is great. Lots of stuff to learn from events like this
@beer1for2break3fast4
@beer1for2break3fast4 5 жыл бұрын
Bravo Zulu man. You are a lucky man to be able to fly for a living. I envy that. I know damaging a plane is painful but a machine can be repaired. Glad you didn't get injured and thanks for putting it all out there for the rest of us. You very well might have saved a life by posting this.
@donedwards3811
@donedwards3811 5 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your honesty,& willingness to shed light on what as you stated,could be a much costlier(on many levels)similar situation...I'd feel comfortable flying with you also.Clear weather,& safe travels .
@gravityalwayswins1434
@gravityalwayswins1434 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Glad you didn't get hurt. Over the decades I have gotten to know a handful of pilots. When I was young I wanted to fly myself btw.. As a generalization I'd say the pilots I have met wealthy ego driven intellectual introverts. "I can do anything I put my mind to." would be a generalization that applies to most smart people in that category. However In real life regardless of how smart you are, people makes mistakes on a daily basis because they didn't clearly see all the circumstances. We are people not computers, and for a fact we make a lot of mistakes. That certainly includes me. I've been a carpenter since 1973 and amazingly have never seriously been hurt. As for aircraft you can never 100% know how your plane will fly regardless of thousands of hours of flight time. You can't see the atmosphere, its temperature or how it is behaving. It's all a guess based on your experience. But you just can't 100% know. The more you know the better, but many pilots have gotten the chop because they can't see everything. A plane can move in all three axis at any given time due to unseen atmpspheric conditions that are literally impossible to see and control. On top tof that sh&* happens. No intent at all to diss the pilot here, I liked and subbed the video. These are just my opinions and observations.
@JamminJere
@JamminJere 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent analogy. You're alive because of your actions and knowledge. Being able to walk away.. or in this case, call on a sat radio for assistance is all that matters..
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 5 жыл бұрын
Great story! Thanks for posting.
@marcvansteenberghe3948
@marcvansteenberghe3948 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Greg for this courageous, honest and humble report on your mishap, so we can all learn from it !
@edfrench3611
@edfrench3611 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the testimony! I am glad that you were uninjured and are able to share. Great lessons. Instant decision making with potential devastating consequences. No time to debate.
@gregmchale7957
@gregmchale7957 5 жыл бұрын
Ed French thank you Ed. It had been identified in Facebook that I made error #4 which was not looking for an alternative landing spot which I admittedly did not take into consideration. At the time I did feel this was my best option. Hindsight 20/20. Thank you for your comments.
@danlibby8366
@danlibby8366 5 жыл бұрын
Stay safe brother! If you haven't messed up, you haven't left the couch. Thanks for sharing your story and know you are not alone!
@mr.squidward9936
@mr.squidward9936 5 жыл бұрын
Staying on the couch IS messing up.
@NevilleStyke
@NevilleStyke 5 жыл бұрын
Love the registration: Controlled Flight Into Wet Terrain!
@GregMcHalesWildYukon
@GregMcHalesWildYukon 4 жыл бұрын
NevilleStyke that’s fantastic, I never looked at it that way.
@stanbearup9200
@stanbearup9200 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video and sharing it with us. Cheers to you and your beautiful Super Cub!
@carlylea
@carlylea 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your story. I've noticed many accidents happen with the density altitude is higher, and I feel many pilots overlook that as a serious consideration.
@ericswilley357
@ericswilley357 5 жыл бұрын
Great testimony- you’re a responsible aviator. Thank you for making this video and boosting safety awareness. Glad you were able to walk away and Happy to see you’re back in the air- wiser and better for the experience.
@GregMcHalesWildYukon
@GregMcHalesWildYukon 5 жыл бұрын
Eric Swilley thank you Eric, I m happy to here you got something from it. Thank you for your kind words.
@monsenrm
@monsenrm 5 жыл бұрын
Great video...but...what is the rest of the story? How did you get the plane out of there? I’m guessing there was no hull insurance, so how and how much did it cost to fix?
@AugustusTitus
@AugustusTitus 5 жыл бұрын
Seconded. I think the other part of really learning about this finishing the story about the recovery: getting it unstuck, getting it repaired, and flown back to base. Also, you're in Canada, so some notes about how the reporting process works with Transportation Safety Board, etc.
@roncarney7343
@roncarney7343 5 жыл бұрын
Agree, much more info would be appreciated!
@VMCAviationVideos
@VMCAviationVideos 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that would be interesting to hear
@cwgreen1938
@cwgreen1938 5 жыл бұрын
Greg, I know exactly how you feel. I was a pilot in the Border Patrol for over 20 years. I retired with over 10,000 hrs in super cubs and you are right they are the best airplane for low, slow, push and jerk flying that some of us have to do bar none. I have flown Huskies, Champion Citabrias and others and none compares to the super cub. I have never crashed a cub but I have scared the hell out of myself several times and I knew exactly what my airplane was capable of and exactly what my capabilities were but if you push the envelope enough you are going to get into trouble. Sometimes you can get by with it but sometimes it bites you in the ass. Don’t feel bad about it, just be thankful you walked away from it. I will guarantee you will never forget what you did wrong and I doubt you will ever get in that exact situation again.
@Cmoredebris
@Cmoredebris 5 жыл бұрын
Not only is performance reduced on a hot day, but true airspeed increases, therefore ground speed increases and there is less time for a given runway distance. Thanks for the excellent video.
@jprr101
@jprr101 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats on your honesty and thanks for sharing. Not all the pilots there will make public a mistake. Good for you and for letting others learn for this mistake. Maybe you will save a life. Regards.
@GregMcHalesWildYukon
@GregMcHalesWildYukon 5 жыл бұрын
Juan Pablo Ríos thank you very much, I hope this helps someone someday.
@ncc74656m
@ncc74656m 5 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter what you do, be it piloting, driving, performing brain surgery: EVERYONE makes a mistake. It's just sometimes you get lucky and they're minor enough that you escape, and sometimes you don't. Like you said, what's important is learning and sharing those lessons. A good video, and I'm glad you're here to share it, Greg.
@54tbruce
@54tbruce 5 жыл бұрын
Greg What I have found to work for me in unfamiliar strip, or temps, or Alts, or weight is to do some slow turns and stalls to evaluate what I'm about to get into. So far it's worked for me ( knock on wood) .............TB PS. I didn't always do know that trick.
@mykofreder1682
@mykofreder1682 5 жыл бұрын
His comment about committing to the landing made sense, the plane can land in a very short distance which reduces time to get into trouble. Coming in hotter to allow takeoff only guarantees increased amount of time and distance you will have to deal with issues on the ground, you still are going to roll through the ground you would have done a short landing on. I have seen people getting into trouble with heat and altitude, not having the climbing ability they were accustom to, testing/assessing their climbing ability before landing in a valley strip or flying toward a ridge of trees in the distance probably would have helped.
@jackfrost3573
@jackfrost3573 5 жыл бұрын
I do a lot of skydiving... 40 years now. I had my first parachute malfunction on my 25th jump. I was ok but I was asking my instructor what did I do wrong?? He said "you are standing here right?...then you did nothing wrong" !
@VMCAviationVideos
@VMCAviationVideos 5 жыл бұрын
... and he was right👍
@loismayr
@loismayr 5 жыл бұрын
respect that you share your experiences with us and make no secret of it! self-reflection and sharing with colleagues I find great. greetings from the austrian alps. always blue sky. Lois
@barry7413
@barry7413 5 жыл бұрын
One should learn from mistakes. Cheers to you for helping others learn from yours.
@gregmchale7957
@gregmchale7957 5 жыл бұрын
Barry , thank you! It is sometimes hard to check my ego, but I wished I had seen this video 2yrs ago. Either way , I knew right away I had to make this for others. I appreciate your comment. Cheers
@evanrobinson8025
@evanrobinson8025 5 жыл бұрын
Scariest call I've ever had was also on one of those hot days - it was as if somebody just ripped out my 150hp engine and put an 80hp put put motor in there when I thought a takeoff into rising terrain would be no problem. Thanks for sharing!
@gregmchale7957
@gregmchale7957 5 жыл бұрын
Evan Robinson thanks for sharing with me.
@LyndaWhite-ju1gj
@LyndaWhite-ju1gj 5 жыл бұрын
Glad your back to normal and one of the best aviation videos on KZbin.
@contiscustomrodsccr4387
@contiscustomrodsccr4387 5 жыл бұрын
Best two pieces of advice you can give people is exactly what you did 1) know your equipment 2) when you make a gross tactical error, OWN IT. Great video man! Glad you're ok!
@gregmchale7957
@gregmchale7957 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much sir. I appreciate your comments
@bobjackson3307
@bobjackson3307 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your insight into what warm weather vs cold weather does to lift. You can bet by telling your story you have saved lives and $$ for the pilots & or family of Pilots who fwrd. your story to pilots they know. Be safe & thanks again for telling your story. Bob Jackson
@joshmccarthy7943
@joshmccarthy7943 5 жыл бұрын
Great honesty mate well done with looking at the positive out of this
@frankirwin2377
@frankirwin2377 5 жыл бұрын
Now after detailing that, were you able to fly it out? detail the repairs etc. Thanks for the tips.
@Planebeach
@Planebeach 5 жыл бұрын
Looked like the helicopter was there to lift it out, there where ropes on top of the cub.
@Paulydxdd
@Paulydxdd 5 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your candor without a hint of an excuse. I was a bush pilot in East Africa for many years so I'm very familiar with high altitude airstrips on hot days. I am curious if the C.G. may have been a factor since you were max gross. When flying a bird at its limits, the CG only has to be a bit off to make it mush at low airspeed? Thanks
@OldFliersGroup
@OldFliersGroup 5 жыл бұрын
20C is a winter's day in Australia. Thing is, every flight is a lesson to take something from. Self criticism is a good thing.
@billdemeter8801
@billdemeter8801 5 жыл бұрын
That's right, because the hottest average day in Melbourne is typically 21C in January, with the coldest being 10C in July (southern hemisphere)! As with climate in any country, it depends what part of the country you are talking about. Death Valley USA, has been hotter than Australia ever was (hence, the name!). He doesn't fly out of Alice Springs, and his point was that on the day of the crash, it was much hotter than usual in the area in which he flies, and that his flying experience has been limited to that area. The exact opposite situation occurred in extreme cold with the Air Florida jet that crashed into the Potomac. Let's stick to the facts and leave the macho, nationalistic BS out of it! "Thing is" some "flights" provide more important "lessons" than others. This was one of those flights! Thanks for sharing!😊
@OldFliersGroup
@OldFliersGroup 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, in Melbourne on 4/1/2019 it was 42C. I don't believe my post was disrespectful and certainly not macho or nationalistic or even B.S. and I'm disappointed you saw it this way.
@nospam-hn7xm
@nospam-hn7xm 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your willingness to share this.
@zeldarobinson3382
@zeldarobinson3382 2 жыл бұрын
Nice plane and glad you got her back and back in the air,great you shared your experience and owned your mistake it can happen to anyone, but a great life lessons to everyone, passing on our lessons and knowledge of mistakes and misjudgements is what helps us all to learn and grow. Thank you for sharing. Stay safe
@GregMcHalesWildYukon
@GregMcHalesWildYukon 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Zelda!
@philipdartnell
@philipdartnell 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to make the video and share your harrowing experience. From your nature and the manner in which you've gone about using the experience to learn from (and help others too) I'd fly with you. Pilots that can talk about shortcomings and mistakes are probably the better class of pilots. Go-arounds at very low level and after touch-down are fraught with danger. In the split seconds available one has to consider so many factors around aircraft performance, wind, density-altitude, obstacles and remaining ground. All standard considerations in bush flying of course, but depending on where the go-around is initiated all those factors take on varying levels of criticality and priority. Heading for trees at low speed under full power and wishing you'd just continued with the landing instead, isn't a situation anyone wants to be in but (unfortunately) the simple act of deciding to go-around (which is drummed into us early in our flying as the best thing to do whenever you're not happy with an approach) may very much be the wrong decision. A lot of thinking is required to have a go-around plan already considered prior to the landing so the decision has already been made with consideration for all the factors at play.
@gregmchale7957
@gregmchale7957 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Philip, I appreciate your vote of confidence. All I am trying to do is keep improving and maybe help someone from a worse outcome. We are all in this together. Cheers
@lindsaylefaivre537
@lindsaylefaivre537 5 жыл бұрын
Very well spoke. Thanks for sharing! Now strap your self in that cub and get flying. Remember once that close to committing to a landing theirs no go around. Much safer that way.
@gregmchale7957
@gregmchale7957 5 жыл бұрын
Lindsay Lefaivre Thank You Lindsey. I’m back in the saddle!
@georgesayago9090
@georgesayago9090 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. 30,000 hours and that fine line still there. You learned a lesson and will continue learning many more. Keep the blue side up.
@fationet
@fationet 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, it is very useful. As others mentioned, I would be very interested to know how you got the plane out of there.
@gordangraham
@gordangraham 5 жыл бұрын
Really couldn’t find if you answered the question, but here it is. Could you make a video explaining how you repaired it or flew it back. Really interested.
@powderhog2
@powderhog2 5 жыл бұрын
The one shot had a helicopter. They hook on to the lifting eyes on the top of the fuselage and use the heli to pick it up and sling load it back. Dont ask how i know this haha
@gordangraham
@gordangraham 5 жыл бұрын
I just got into the story and at the end I was like,,, no, how did you get it fixed?
@johnyates277
@johnyates277 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story I am going to get my pilot's license and stories like these are listen to very carefully,, never let success go to your head or mistakes go to your heart I'm glad you're okay and the cub is back up and flying
@stay_at_home_astronaut
@stay_at_home_astronaut 5 жыл бұрын
Experience is something you get right /after/ you need it.
@paulzeigler1075
@paulzeigler1075 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been taking notes. Thanks for sharing!
@FarmerFpv
@FarmerFpv 5 жыл бұрын
Was there no alternate landing strip or spot in the area that might have looked a little more comfortable to drop in on? Always have an alternate. Much respect for you to come out and share your story takes a lot of strength and courage to do that. This will help many people more than you know I'm glad you came out unscathed. I pray you have a wonderful lifetime of safe flying at least as safe as it can be bush flying and just remember this day. Happy flying sir! Rob
@skycop56
@skycop56 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you were not hurt. It sounds to me like the engine was not developing full power. Was it leaned to best power? What was the density altitude? Most aircraft are built with enough power to climb at max gross weight on a 20c day. The super Cub should have enough power to climb if everything was done correctly.
@jeffslaven
@jeffslaven 5 жыл бұрын
sharing this has undoubtedly helped many pilots. Also focusing on emergency survival/first aid gear is a must for all pilots. I'm sure that you were well prepared in that area as well. Thank you for this video.
@clearprop5447
@clearprop5447 5 жыл бұрын
Regardless of where you live and fly, remember always that weight and temperature will affect you every time. The Super Cub is a great backcountry aircraft, but with added weight and hotter temps there are a lot to be said about the durability of the stronger 185.
@sch85718
@sch85718 5 жыл бұрын
Great and honest analysis. Admits the errors. Always more than one thing that goes into an accident.
@jojojosmart1
@jojojosmart1 5 жыл бұрын
I would like to know how much $ that crash cost you and how did you get the plane out of there for repairs.
@GaryLaaks1
@GaryLaaks1 5 жыл бұрын
Well done for sharing Greg. Respect
@klink175
@klink175 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. A few things went wrong, but it sounds like you also did a lot of things right. Sometimes, the amplitude of the wrong just outweighs the right and aviation bites you. Thank you so much for sharing this! I learned a lot from this video. This is the kind of stuff that really needs to be out there on KZbin and thank you for your bravery in sharing it! You have a new subscriber!
@GregMcHalesWildYukon
@GregMcHalesWildYukon 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, John. I'll do my best to make this the only crash video I need to post.
@angleofattack
@angleofattack 5 жыл бұрын
Great footage and cool video! Great job telling us what we can learn.
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