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Full podcast episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5XIY6RtfKt2qNk Lex Fridman podcast channel: kzbin.info Guest bio: Yuval Noah Harari is a historian, philosopher, and author of Sapiens, Homo Deus, 21 Lessons for the 21st Century, and Unstoppable Us.

[@bluesky45299]

The greatest tragedy that has happend to mankind is the invention of "secularization". It is here where the authority of Allah(the most exalted) was usurped and and man's authority to pursue maximum freedom and equality began. It is here that man began to worship the self and acquired ego based consciousness(nafs al amara) as opposed Heart(soul) based consciouness(nafs al mutmaenna) which is always grounded in justice&mercy

[@MaxRuso]

Why were you so weak in your interview with a murderer of children

[@michaelpuente3352]

It’s disgusting to see people here in the US trying to shut down any criticism of the Israeli government during these times. Thanks for this lex

[@MrFazerlogin]

Now we should blame only hamas, this israel vs world will begin ww3

[@elnene174]

They have been brainwashed

[@asaadddfa]

Said the dude posting on a literal clip from a top podcaster criticizing Israel. Just like Rogan, Bryan callen, piers Morgan, literally every podcaster, and literally every us media outlet uncritically publishing Hamas numbers and not even reporting the Israeli side at this point. What universe are you living in???

[@asaadddfa]

Not to mention protests across the country, still ongoing, very much illegal, yet allowed to continue. The others got shut down only when the smell and sanitation issues got to the point of legal liability. What country do you live in? Who is the mainstream celebrity who thinks it's safe to publically back Israel vs how many are emboldened to support Palestine? What's the factor? 1:10 for Palestine ? 1:100? Not that anybody has any facts at their command, but since when has that stopped an American from having an opinion? I guess my logic is "silencing" you? That would explain your statement. Possibly the only thing.

[@whiteclouds618]

Christians are telling Jews are God's chosen people. What a bullshit 🤣 Their so called God & "His Unwanted Son " born on Christmas 😆

[@onemoreguyonline7878]

Thank gosh someone called out BN.

[@mr.coolmug3181]

"Thank gosh" lol I'm gonna use that in future.

[@Isragirl10]

Someone?? What are you talking about - all we do is call him out. Under what rock do you live???

[@rhyno8644]

😂 It's a microwave society that will be bought from the inside. So what you have someone to point your finger at.

[@petrulutenco6600]

Nice that on the same channel we can have 2 opposed opinions! Great job, Lex!

[@AlgoDating]

What is not nice is the obviously biased photo against Netanyahu in the thumbnail, which makes this video unobjective journalism. Very disappointing.

[@petrulutenco6600]

@@AlgoDating What exactly speaks biased to you in the thumbnail?

[@AlgoDating]

@@petrulutenco6600 The photo of Netanyahu. Does it appear to be a neutral photo to you?

[@mokied]

@@AlgoDating That's just a misunderstanding of how to correctly pick a thumbnail for a video. You want the thumbnail that will grab attention and create a certain expectation and then you want to video to fulfill that expectation and more. So if you have a video were the guest is criticizing Netanyahu and unflattering image of him will create the expectation that this video will be negative toward him. So basically they just chose a thumbnail that will maximize the reach and approval of their audience on KZbin.

[@az6802]

@@AlgoDatinggo cry about it

[@ZizzerLV]

I wonder if Lex read comments. The complete fanboydom of BB broadcasting the State News and answering no questions compared Yuval who explains his thought process is wild. This conversation only reinforces the idea that people choose their truths and the rest doesn't matter. (at any scale)

[@Thomas...191]

I know man, just went from being triggered by BB to this cool glass of intelligent water... to see the opposite reactions down here, at least tells me about the diversity of this audience.

[@boliussa]

What on earth are you talking about. Netanyahu was pushed legally to not speak by the supreme court. That's how powerful the supreme court got. And he has spoken about it in interview, with both Piers Morgan, and Lex Fridman, and pretty much any interview where he has been asked. Not only that, but his predecessor Naftali Bennett agrees with the idea of reducing the power of the supreme court to the levels that it was at 20 years ago. Yuval is a crazy leftist

[@comeforaride]

Like you choosing yours?

[@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings]

Mind Begs the Question: Hitler in guise of Arien/Ethnic Nation Formed an Evil Regime to Rule If a PM/Govt use same strategies Practicing Hitlers Mein Kampf,no?

[@1984isnotamanual]

I disagree. They dont choose it as if they have a free choice. Its a stew of biases, environment, family and friends beliefs. I dont think its as conscious a choice as that. See what im saying?

[@Broseftoast]

I really like this guy. I see comments about his affiliation with WEF or what the fuck ever, but if you actually listen to what he has to say... they're not outrageous BS, he makes valid points backed up with good reasoning. I know nothing about this guy, but the stuff he had to say in this video was interesting.

[@Jac0bIAm]

The thing is, what he is saying in this interview is (as far as I've heard to this point) great and compassionate, but he has said other things that have been less than in alignment with the virtue of compassion he praises so highly. He has mentioned how the population is too high and alluded to depopulation, saying: "We just don’t need the vast majority of the population” in the early 21st century given modern technologies’ rendering human labor economically and militarily “redundant.” " He has also stated: “In truth, there is no God in the universe, no nations, no corporations, no money, and no human rights, and no justice outside the common imagination of us human beings.” Furthermore: In an interview, Harari states: “And then the big political and economic question of the 21st century will be what do we need humans for, or at least what do we need so many humans for?” The interviewer responds, ‘Do you have an answer, Yuval?’, at which point Harari says: “At present the best guess we have is keep them happy with drugs and computer games.” He preaches spirituality, yet seems to be a materialist. In truth, to understand him further one would need to read his books in full (which I admittedly haven't), however right now he seems polarizing and some of his views are IMHO not conductive to a healthy human future.

[@Broseftoast]

@@Jac0bIAm hm that’s fair, I really appreciate the thoughtful answer you gave dude. You could’ve easily been an asshole or just call me ignorant, but instead you acknowledged that the guy spoke about some reasonable things while also giving me context and background, and I think you also made very good points with good evidence. Why can’t everyone on KZbin be like you or why can’t comments like this always be so thoughtful and civil. I appreciated this answer and it gave me lord perspective, you’re a cool one man, hope you have a great day.

[@StopFear]

Lol the people who criticize WEF(I assume World Economic Forum) just seem to be ignorant about what it does and doesn’t do.

[@StopFear]

@@Jac0bIAmThe two things you quote him on are not exactly out of “alignment with virtue and compassion”. If you take those statements alone they are not imbued with any moral sentiment in the form spoken. Virtue and compassion are moral statements which are imprecise and are often subjective. Just because he says there is no need for large population does not imply he is suggesting that the people should somehow be killed off. Only insane conspiracy theorists claim that someone somewhere is planning to “kill majority of us population”. I really hope you are not one of those conspiracy theory idiots. From what I know Yuval Harari does believe in value of human life, and does align with what we could describe as humanist liberal(modern social sense as well as classical sense) values.

[@StopFear]

⁠@@Jac0bIAmMany people with progressive liberal , left of center , values explicitly reject spirituality or metaphysical claims. This does not make them less virtuous. On the other hand it is the right wing conservatives and authoritarians of different kinds usually have dualist/spiritual/religious beliefs.

[@guymind9463]

It all started when Benjamin Netanyahu incited for the murder of Ytzhak Rabin, manged to incite enough for him to be murdered, and got away with it without being punished. Benjamin Netanyahu should have been indicated for his crimes of Incitement along with many Rabbis that has contributed to this Incitement and weren't indicated.

[@urbanart7325]

My family left Israel after the assassination of Rabin. Israel will slowly turn into an Arab State with their own mullahs

[@ptv2154]

Long live a democratic peaceful Israel! As an Iranian, I am concerned that the reforms could make Israel a totalitarian state like Iran over a few decades. Save democratic flourishing states of the world!

[@_Painted]

Hope for peaceful reform in Iran to return to a democracy without theocracy.

[@judahjayson684]

You forgot about the Palestinians when you saying a flourishing state.

[@zivzan]

Don't believe the media (including Israeli media) about the ongoing judicial reform. It is an essential reform that's meant to restore the balance to the Israeli democracy after 30 years of constant encroaching power grab by the judicial system (supreme court, state attorney office and the general attorney), that nullifies the will of the people by excessive weakening the government and parliament. We probably have the most activist supreme court in the world, apart from that of India. Israel is going to be more democratic after this reform despite all the noise you hear around.

[@compovi8461]

If the reform doesnt make it, Israel is going to become a totalitarian state. That's what the reform is trying to prevent - A tyrannical rule by a small junta of non elected officials.

[@Adamantaimai]

It won’t, don’t believe the noise. Israel will be more democartic after the reform.

[@georgeallen846]

Revisiting this during the war now

[@ekagelashvily5192]

What a wonderful,kind, intelligent gentleman...why can't all humanity be this calm, rational and logical?

[@askedofgod9067]

Because humans are imperfect. You want a world full of robots?

[@issamoshi]

Agreed but I have 2 issues with this interview: 1- Lex wishing for people to accept to live under the same regime, Israel, that has been oppressing them for the last 75 years. Would the Israelis accept to live under the Palestinian leadership? Not in a million years. And as he said, the current ruling party sees Palestinians as sub-humans and would never ever ever ever accept Palestinian as equals under 1 state. 2- This guy said that the 2 states solution is opposed by both sides. In matter of fact, the Palestinian government recognized Israel 30 years ago. You know Israel did even tho they are the occupying force? They still TO DATE don't even recognize Palestine as a state. Neither does the US nor the UK who planted Israel in the middle east in the first place.

[@ekagelashvily5192]

@@askedofgod9067 Do I want a world full of robots...? Are you alright in your head? I compliment a person being interviewed,and you some fucking stranger comes here and attacks me. Yes asshole,then I rather have a world full of kind robots than you existing.

[@theshumai]

harari makes a lot of meditation and self processing... maybe the humanity need a little bit more of those

[@rocoa01]

Excellent interview. While I do not fully agree with Yuval he makes some valid points that make us question our stances, without being a jerk. Need more people like him.

[@bla-ig4bd]

what do you disagree with ?

[@urbanart7325]

You don't fully agree.

[@mikhacoffman4522]

@@bla-ig4bdbecause some things he said were a gross exaggeration of what is actually happening

[@danzwku]

​@@mikhacoffman4522like?

[@issamoshi]

One thing he was wrong about is when he said that the 2 states solution is opposed by both sides. In matter of fact, the Palestinian government recognized Israel 30 years ago. You know Israel did even tho they are the occupying force? They still TO DATE don't even recognize Palestine as a state. Imagine that while ongoing peace talk were respected by the Palestinian side, Israel took 78% of their land. The peace talk started by 2 sides cease fire and Israel stop building new settlements.. Well, the Palestinians actually ceased fire and the Israeli side didn't stop the bombing nor the building of settlements even for 1 days even under the condemnation of the UN. And whenever Palestinians tried to resist they were labeled as terrorists who disturb peace and being pushed by Iran blah blah blah blah. Sorry for the long comment

[@ReasonAboveEverything]

People dislike the guest due to his wef connections but I appreciate the fact that you interviewed him. Broadens your understanding of what he thinks.

[@asafh04]

Listening to what he says doesn't necessarily "broaden your understanding of what he thinks". Especially when it comes to Bibi

[@iceman18211]

I support the WEF and its work. It's a great organization.

[@Marius26-73]

@@iceman18211 😡

[@croisaor2308]

​​@@iceman18211 I'm ambivalent towards it, but seeing how much anger it has stoked has been pretty funny to see.

[@iceman18211]

@@croisaor2308 Yeah its pretty random. I don't think people understand what the WEF does. It just teaches good economics, and runs networking events for rich people.

[@toniladenheim8322]

Everyone has compartmentalized knowledge while at the same time have gold nuggets of truth.

[@jewulo]

What does that mean. Could you elaborate?

[@toniladenheim8322]

@@jewulo To put simply- "You don't know what you don't know." In a world where so many people believe they know it all and are quick to accept things as facts without questioning them, this quote is a much-needed reminder that we should always be open to questioning our own beliefs including our own belief that we are experts in any given area. At the same time, surprisingly you may find gold nuggets of truth and enlightenment in conversations from anyone including the homeless.

[@Soap010]

​@@toniladenheim8322like gin rummy said. There are known knowns and know unknowns. But there are also unknown unknowns

[@stevencruddell]

Harari is giving a great argument why its not the judicial reform, but the protests against the judicial reform are causing the threats to Israel's democracy. The reform itself adds a check against the unlimited self granted power of the Israeli supreme court. BTW, the rallies in favor of the reform outnumber the anti reform by greater than a 2 to 1 margin. Ditto for petitions in FAVOR of military service.

[@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings]

Mind Begs the Question: If People - subject to Judiciary If a Govt - not subject to Judiciary Govt - Equal under the Law,Above the Law?

[@liorajacob8094]

Not sure where you found that statistic, but it's actually the opposite - the number of anti-reform protestors across the country is much greater than pro-reformers. Plus they have been coming out week after week for 8 months, whereas there have been only a few large pro-reform protests with free busing for all those teens (and guess who paid for them....)

[@ophirwesley4424]

Amazing. Not a single thins u said is true.

[@jake4297]

Surprised I am finding a pro reform comment in English lol

[@EveryoneIsAmelak]

Everything he said about Israel and what is currently going on with the government and the population lurching towards ultra-nationalism is what the Palestinians have been saying would happen since the assassination of Rabin. I always dismissed them bc I was conditioned to support the Jewish cause bc of the holocaust and quite frankly, the Palestinians were a bit too emotional in their argument. Now my whole view changed, only to be reinforced by the “Israel is not racist” garbage that came out of congress this week.

[@joshmarom]

He is lying.

[@moshak1455]

Look at history. Everything the Palestinians said about these Jews have been true. From their intentions the moment they stepped on Palestine soil from Europe. Every accusation has been correct.

[@crazyeight9]

Israel is not racist at all. Israel is one of the most diverse countries on earth. Israel is the only place in the Middle East where woman and gay people have equal rights. Palestine on the other hand is run by terrorist crazies. Palestine take direct funding from the islamic savages of iran

[@tutu3909]

Lol, how did you manage to not figure out these sons of haganah were there before the holocaust?! Since 1904 pre world war 1&2

[@marysunshine2498]

For goodness sake educate yourself. Yuval is not correct. It's a bunch of baloney......the usual leftist professor's rubbish.

[@kocaksaid]

Bibi is next level Frank Underwood.

[@evyatarmor2]

100%, as an Israeli I thought about that all the time when I watched house of cards

[@מורןויזל-ב5ק]

Me too

[@irish7summits]

If only Lex had the chance to get BN on his podcast to challenge him directly on this charge. Oh wait he did and didn't.

[@NotScy]

It’s not lex’s responsibility to do so. The fact that he did these back to back releases of these two episodes achieves a similar result without risking the BN podcast being cancelled because of bad publicity. There is no shot they will let lex release something like that

[@boliussa]

He did and Netanyahu explained it very well as he always does. Yuval is a crazy leftist

[@chrisdrakes2332]

@@NotScy Lex gives shitty people the benefit of the doubt. BN is a criminal. A proven criminal. Lex comes across as spineless in some of these conversations.

[@eternalmusic2736]

@@NotScy There is a pattern of Lex backing away from the really tough questions

[@roboticski]

Dude he started off by calling BN the "hated man on earth" what else do you want him to do?

[@phillyrocks3847]

Little known fact to most, Benjamin Netanyahu graduated from Cheltenham highschool in suburban Philadelphia Pa. Same alma mater as Reggie Jackson.

[@comeforaride]

Ok. Cool and all. It's a rich school that was never quite good. They were never highly ranked or had much going for it. With love Central Bucks.

[@phillyrocks3847]

@@comeforaride Wow. What an elitist snob.

[@nadineF]

I love Yuval, bought all his books, except the one for children. He is brilliant. On this subject, however, he is being vague, simplifying answers to complex problems. When he says that all that is missing to solve the Israel-Palestine issue is motivation, that the problem is in people’s hearts, that’s not helpful. I wish he could explain the actions needed to solve the problem.

[@YotamAlbalach]

I agree, I think he's avoiding giving a straight and detailed answer, which is the opposite of the way he answers most of the other questions where he is very straight forward and descriptive. In my personal opinion its because of his belief that blaming one side or the other doesn't help, which I think is bs. Sometimes you need to put things clean on the table for progress to be made, including progress in public opinion which also impacts this conflicts lack of conclusion. While I share alot of his criticism on Bibi and the Israeli governments, especially of the last 15 years or so, the two sides of this conflict aren't equally to blame for this. Palestinian leadership has rejected co-existence and any form of two state solution decades before Israel's establishment, and rejected the two state solution offered by the UN in 1947 and publicly declared war, and Israel survived repeated attempts to destroy it by war in 48, 67 and 73. When the palestinian people finally developed a national identity and was pretty much unified in the 60's and 70's it took them nearly 20 years to be willing to negotiate. Only to once again decline a two state solution, regardless of what happened in the negotiation (whatever reason Arafat declined) the people weren't willing to agree to any compromise, and the people lost faith in the leadership and stopped supporting it, because of attempts to co-operate with Israel. So the situation in the last 15 years is that any attempt by the official palestinian leadership to even show willingness to negotiate and work together, means they lose the little support they have, which is around 30%. The people really in charge in palestinian society that actually have the majority of public support are Hamas, a terror organization that publicly declares he wants no peace or negotiations and wants to inflict as much pain to Israelis as it can, thats the only thing that gets public support in their society, peace is forbidden. So yes there is no motivation on the Israeli side when this is the palestinian leadership they have to work with. Before palestinian society unifies behind a leader willing to compromise and make peace with no rogue militant groups, there is no chance to even negotiate or for negotiations to mean something without the ability to follow through with it.

[@wolfheadedconjuror]

The solution is to vote out Netanyahu because this administration is neofascist

[@שלומימשאט]

It is very hard to explain because you want a solution where everyone failed. The only way to reach an agreement is a huge disaster. Same as Europe which was destroyed in 2 world wars that made people understand that if they will not learn to live together, they will die. Generally, the Palestinians concentrate on resistance. Rejection of the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish state. They don't want peace. They want that Israel will cease to exist and the Jews will go out of the land. In the peace negotiation, Israel offered the Palestinians 92% of the occupied territories (west bank and Gaza Strip) but the Palestinians rejected it. Why? because they don't really want 2 state solution. They want that all the refugees will return to Israel, Which means there will be a Palestinian country (Palestine), and they will take control of Israel in the elections after all the refugees will return to Israel. Therefore, it was impossible to sign a peace agreement. There is no point to sign an agreement with people that all they want is that you will cease to exist. This is one side of the explanation of what Yuval meant by lack of motivation. The other side of it is that the failure of the peace negotiation caused the rise of the extreme right-wing in Israel. No one choose the left-wing parties because no one believes the Palestinians. The right-wing and the extreme right-wing parties don't have any motivation to sign an agreement with the Palestinians. Moreover, many of them are religious and non-democratic publics, even fascists. In my opinion, they are even worse than our enemies, because they tear Israel's foundation from the Inside. They are a great danger to the existence of Israel and they took control in the election. Which is terrifying. Now people don't know what to do, the only thing is to resist this government and hope it will fall asap.

[@ichhasseeiniges]

He is also saying that this is not only a political issue where the only problem is a lack of motivation but also a religious conflict which is not as easily resolved as a political one. Especially true if you take into account both parties of the conflict and which direction the BN regime is going.

[@TheGoblin1975]

his interview on this particular podcast, where he simplifies things into talking about how homosapien... dwell on stories but not the suffering from them...i think sums up what he means by the problem in peoples' hearts.

[@ace-pv4hy]

Harari is a very very criticized person, but I find most of his opinions very realistic.

[@ramsey121kamar]

“If this country becomes a fundamentalist and militaristic dictatorship….” Haha! “If” he says.

[@crazyeight9]

Israel is the only democracy in the middle east. Benjamin Netanyahu was democarctailly elected in a landslide. Israel is also the main enemy of the islamic savages of iran

[@roejogan9322]

Explain how israel is a militaristic dictatorship right now

[@tutu3909]

I exactly it already is 😂😂😂

[@tutu3909]

@@roejogan9322explain how you’re ignorant?! 😂😂😂 since 1904 these asshole been immigrating and reeking havoc, and in 1921 Jewish haganh terrorists would bomb houses and build settlements beginning of Zionist militias. In 1948 after the holocaust they played victim and committed genocide against Palestinians and took the land. But y’all like to romanticize the bullshit narrative they’ve had forever 😂

[@vp6564]

@@tutu3909you meant to say Iran?

[@TyK1B]

Glad to see Yuval telling the truth about the 3-class system, but with regard to his reasoning for pushing back on calling it apartheid... doesn't it make sense for Palestinians who have been oppressed and subjugated for generations by Israel to hate their oppressors?Even though it's not helpful, it's at least understandable. And not only that, but black South Africans actually engaged in terrorism and bombing campaigns in their struggle against apartheid as well... In fact, Nelson Mandela was directly involved in plotting these attacks before he was sent to prison! Israel has acted in bad faith for decades, undermining any possibility of a two-state solution while paying it lip service. The actions of Palestinian terrorists are not justified but it's hard to blame an oppressed and subjugated people for doing what little they can to fight back against an oppressive superpower with its hands on their throats. The onus is on Israel to do the right thing, not on Palestinians to act like "good little slaves" to win the sympathy of the public.

[@marcwells03]

Did violence work in South Africa? Is that what led to the fall?

[@MillennialRabbi]

A two state solution was offered at the camp David accords in 2000. It was rejected and a war launched by the Palestinians. Stop crying

[@marcwells03]

@@MillennialRabbi so because it was offered once, can’t offer it again ?

[@GearedGaming76899]

​@@MillennialRabbiIt literally wasn't. If you look at that actual proposal in the beginning of the 2000 and it gives east Jerusalem to Israel plus parts of the west-bank. Besides that it proposed a high way that split the west-bank into. Name a single country in the world split by a highway but you can't but somehow that is acceptable when it comes to palestine?. In fact a real two state solution based on the 1967 borders was introduced by the arab league that if Israel accepted the entire middle-east would recognize Israel, but guess what Israel rejected it. So this idea that Israel gave a two-state proposal that when you look at each proposal it gives parts of the west-bank always to Israel so it is not a real proposal.

[@user-wq6hr2ei2d]

He wasn't making any claims as to the righteousness of the rejection, just that it is there as a fundamental part of the problem to unify.

[@davidderidder2667]

Good to see Yuval’s human side as he contradicted himself. He first said probably very few people are interested in a small nation in the world, but later states that the impact of developments in Israel will impact the entire world. So hope Yuval sees why we have to all pay attention to Israel.

[@MichaelSt]

No contradiction, few care, many SHOULD care is what he basically said

[@asalashaar5020]

14:53 the arrogance is just unfathomable, you established a racist state on another country and you want them to give it all up . This man is a joke .

[@Hasanafandi-qj6oh]

Israelian army are animals not marcy on civilian. Children women destected every thing.

[@אסףג]

Just compare: 0:30 3:53

[@mrapp8918]

Spot on. America can learn many valuable lessons not only from the points Yuval makes, but more importantly, from the style in which he makes them. Reasoned thought, grounded in logic and empiricism, forms the basis of democracy, and more broadly, of human civilization. Scorched earth, zero sum, us-vs-them “dialogue” leads inevitably to demonization, “othering”, dictatorship, and, ultimately, to societal discord and death.

[@enddendino]

I tought this guy is smart. Israel supreme court cancelled laws that privented Israel from keeping its borders in place, handle terror, put horrific criminals in justice etc.the supreme court is left wing (some of them radical) that choose its jodges by themself, hence its impossible to ever replace the controled nerrative to reality. And in facto they cancelled laws breached our borders security and internal security,(that brought 7 october) and any law that didn't feet their nerative. that choosing judge system is what israel gov wanted to change and have some balance in it and the left resistance (with all this falsely imagination of reasons) beacuse they understand they lost completely the electorate to bibi/Likud (after Israel tryied all possible peace solutions) forever and trying and succeed to control the gov from courts by canceling laws..just a Liar with imagination and crazy unresponsable interpretation. There are many center and left parties that admmit the need of reform. But the lefties blocked and blowed any negotiations about the content and just put the country at separation, battle, and risk.

[@amitozazad1584]

I think he has a point when he says Israel will be in much bigger trouble if Palestinians accept the state of Israel, and then demand equal rights in vote, military, power, education, health etc. All the major powers of world will have to pressurize israel to give equal rights. What do you think?

[@BooksWeHeart]

One state solution is not a real option for Israel it has to be 2 state. The concept of Jewish state will be abolishing with in a few days if they will have voting rights. They will banish the Jews out of the country

[@SlavaTaras]

There is a very small chance it will ever happen. Something drastic needs to happen in the Palestinian leadership to change the agenda so much. But hypothetically, yeah - it will solve some problems, but will create many others. Theoretically, it can be a good thing. Israel government has a tendency to put difficult problems on ‘hold’ for an unreasonably long time. That shift change could actually lead to some actionable policy. Israelis aren’t going anywhere in the same matter as Palestinians aren’t going anywhere too. So, the problem won’t just disappear for neither side (not that there are only 2 sides to begin with, but whatever). Somehow, one way or another, coexistence needs to be achieved.

[@Jake-tw8pd]

it probably wont happen the Palestinians will never accept israel jews are not going to risk becoming a minority and both sides have there own government passports different populations different laws the seeds of a two state solution is already there and its the only just solution for both sides self rule for both peoples

[@psy-bun]

@@Jake-tw8pd You should use punctuation in your writing, man. Your comment is really difficult to read properly. Like "Palestinians will never accept israel jews" .. so here you are saying Palestinians will never accept Israeli Jews. But if you put a comma after Israel, it reads like this: "Palestinians will never accept israel, Jews are not going to risk becoming a minority" and it makes much more sense. Go back to school please so I don't have to put comments like this explaining basic grammatical lessons for people like you.

[@NickyRikki]

He's right but it will never happen. They don't want to live as Israelis citizens and secondly between the Palestinians there is a lot of hate and misunderstandings. They aren't unified themselves with many different sects between themselves. As an Israeli myself I can tell you that many hate each other equally as much as they hate Israeli. Some prefer actually to be ruled by Israeli government because the example they have of the other Arab nations is not very promising and the ones that don't want to be ruled by a one state solution dream of a two state solution that is already dead and buried in the ground. No Israeli politician will uproot the settlers as this caused the assassination of itzhak rabin when he wanted to trade land for peace and was shot by a settler and killed. So they are more worried about their own believe it or not.

[@danielmoksmann5654]

When he said "Salami Tactics", I couldn't help but think of that episode of Yes, Prime Minister. 😄

[@Igalsr]

יובל כל הכבוד, הסבר מצויין למצב המטורף שהממשלה הזאת הביאה אותנו אליו.

[@Danielst15lm]

שקט! מתיוונים הולכים ומתבכניים לגויים שיצילו אותם מאחיהם היהודים.

[@blahhh7654]

i agree somehow with yuval's opinion on BN, but i cannot stop thinking how come yuval seems to express all of this with such an empathic approach to the people in general while he still supports the power of the WEF being almost the same nasty strategic power that wants and has BN.

[@binyaminramati3010]

I very partially agree Although it is fitting that Israel needs to preserve some locks on the power of the government the current state is absurd and maybe even worse than no locks on the government, I will explain: In Israel right now the voting for the judges for the supreme court is barely affected by the Knesset and can be vetoed by the union of the judges and the Israel Bar Association which both are not just not elected, but also had some severe cases of nepotism and bribe. That means that one of the major powers in Israel is actually not aligned with the people of Israel. Another interesting part is that Israel's demography is generally built like that: 55%-60% are right-wing if asked about the Israel-Palestine conflict, let's 30-35% of percents of them are secular and liberal the other 25-30% are more traditional and will probably be less liberal(for example in their opinions about LGBT) we also have around 30% of left-wing people who many times are fond of the two states' solution and are probably "woker" than the people in Europe. the other 10% are Arabs who tend to avoid sitting with either of the sides.(except for a new phenomenon in a party called Ra'am) Now, the supreme court is very aligned with the left-wing side, so now when the government wants to use its democratic power to apply a more right-wing policy, the supreme court stops the government without the need to be ever elected, but the moment the government tries to take its power that 30% go down to the streets. One may claim(it's actually claimed by many) that the government is not cultured as the supreme court, and that the government wants to ignore human rights, but I would say that if one wants an unelected enlightened authority to rule over the uneducated masses, it's not a democracy anymore, it's a theocracy. because everyone has its own value system and if a certain minority thinks its moral system is objective and should be applied to everyone without election, we might define their value system as a theology that rules the masses.

[@yuliadubov2964]

Nicely put

[@tonybanks1035]

I usually dislike Yuval's line of thought. However, THANK YOU for pointing out how ludicrous is the use of the term apartheid applied to Israel is with all it's semantic false implications.

[@Mandems973]

The term Apartheid applies to Israel due to its treatment of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza. It's not ludicrous, it's apt and accurate - as confirmed by Amnesty International, B’Tselem, Yesh Din, Human Rights Watch and numerous of the UN's Special Rapporteurs for Human Rights.

[@tonybanks1035]

@@Mandems973 your argument is garbage. The opinion of those institutions is completely irrelevant. This term is a legal term. Its definition can be made to fit a variety of situations which is why it can be easily hijacked for political reasons. The underlying intention is to morally equate south africa and Israel. which as was pointed out by Yuval completely ludicrous. Any humanoid with half a brain wouldn't fall for that trick. Which is why palestinians have very little support around the world, if not for left wing simpletons in the west.

[@chiguy3514]

It’s 100% apartheid, it does not have to be a carbon copy of SA it’s actually much worst in Palestine, and before you reply with your hasbara talking points go read the detailed report by the multiple human rights orgs

[@tonybanks1035]

@@chiguy3514 You give yourself too much credit. I don't need to reply to your garbage arguments. My first answer was already clear and factually correct. And what about this for a hasbara talking point: if someone tries to destroy us, we will destroy him

[@averagecitizen863]

@@tonybanks1035 might not be apartheid but it ain't all sunshine and butterflies either, and if you use your logic, palestinians have a right to fight back anybody who wants to destroy them so what's there to complain about ?

[@lowcarbsgood7847]

See, that Crime Minister BN lied a lot on his last interview. That was embarrassing!!

[@wenderis]

16:45 very true. They need one common enemy or, as Yuval himself usually said, one common suffering. Suffering is what unite people the most, is the 'realest' of all reality. This is coming from an improbable nation of more than 700 languages and ethnicities, all (feel that they were) suffering under one colonial power.

[@mehmoodsarhadi8047]

“Mashallah” good thoughts brother, full support 🤝🇦🇷🇦🇿🇧🇩🇮🇶🇮🇷🇱🇾🇵🇰🇸🇦🇵🇸🇹🇷🇾🇪

[@erozionzeall6371]

Yuval is a zionist

[@mithra8146]

@@Marcus_Tullius_Ciceroso what

[@Freemouse159]

​@@Marcus_Tullius_Ciceroyes thank you for the insight

[@budawang77]

"Israel has developed surveillance technology to control 2.5 million Palestinians". Fast forward to October 2023 and we have all seen the limits of this control, the folly of leaving festering ethnic conflicts unresolved and the epic failure of Israeli intelligence.

[@MuhammadEgbaria-h8v]

Crazy how he is ok with saying how they control millions of foreign civlians and all that CRAZY WORLD

[@vmasing1965]

_"the folly of leaving festering ethnic conflicts unresolved"_ Ethnic conflict? Ethnic? O rly? You have no idea what you're talking about. It's just a meaningless word salad... 8:52

[@ejoviu4911]

I have been advocating for the Palestinians to ask for a single state solution: 1 man 1 vote. That is the only viable solution to this conundrum.

[@yousef3375]

Hahaha you are brainwashed you are telling a whole population to forget their country and start assimilating a a new country that barely existed till now

[@peturadunga]

It is strange he suggest Benjamin is destrying israel, and not oposit. The whole groteskt situation of colonization of Palestine, turns zionists into monsters. And he does not shy away from suggesting the Palestinians joining israel, and dissolving Palestina as a solution, because dissolving israel is impossible. I suggest palestinians become full members of the country, and it is name return to Palestine. Tha settelers can return to where they came from, or stay if they have valid connection to palestini, and the refugees be given right to return.

[@MorningNapalm]

Very enlightening, intelligent discussion.

[@izzykhach]

Nope. Yuval is lying and giving a very one sided view on the judicial issue.

[@MorningNapalm]

@@izzykhach From what I know myself, I don't see where he is lying. Care to enlighten me?

[@izzykhach]

@@MorningNapalm Israel does not have a constitution to check the power of its judiciary. That Supreme Court in Israel has absolutely no checks on its power. They can strike down any law they don't like (and they only don't like conservative laws) as they please. They also select their own judges. As opposed the US where judges are selected by the president and confirmed by the senate, in Israel judges select themselves with no outside input. That means that the Israeli Supreme Court, which is extremely leftist and activist by nature, selects more judges who resemble themselves. In the 90s the Supreme Court became very activist and started to regularly strike down laws. What Netanyahu is trying to do is *restore* checks and balances on the court, not remove them. So Yuval Harari is being very emotional, irrational and lying. I don't care how many anthropology books he's written, he's not being honest about this. Regarding the Palestinians, there have been two leftist Israeli governments that have made peace offers and the Palestinians just walk away from the negotiating table. People like Yuval Harari like blaming their own side for everything. It makes him a darling of liberals.

[@MorningNapalm]

@@izzykhach LOL, taking a bad system and changing it to emulate a worse system does not make it better. You hopefully understand that letting the government shape the judiciary is step one towards a dictatorship?

[@izzykhach]

@@MorningNapalm why is the US system bad? Sometimes the SCOTUS majority is liberal and at other times it's conservative. That's the way it goes.

[@AmrinderSinghHundal]

Same is the case in India

[@nilicohen829]

יובל כול הכבוד לך. איך הצלחת בזמן כול כך קצר להסביר את המצב בארץ? גם המראיין הוביל את השיחה יפה, כדי לנסות לפענח את מורכבות הבעיות בישראל.

[@amandajayne2619]

israel is an illegal entity. All the land is Palestine.

[@soggybiscuit6098]

How dare you question bibi the great and poweful, most intelligent ruler of the best nation. All critics are unhinged conspiracy theorists that should be unpersoned 😊

[@diablito118]

Lol I like your sarcasm

[@vmasing1965]

Lefts hate is everywhere. Everyone can see it, except leftists themselves.

[@AshrafKhan-dp6ly]

I am South African and a Muslim and I would say that to deny that South Africa existed for black South Africans would have been impossible as the country existed without name until colonised and then became South Africa. In the instance of Palestine and Israel, Israel did not exist but Muslims or Palestinians had sympathy for the Jews as children of Abraham and invited them back into Palestine after the second WW to help and then off some antiquated religious belief the guests decided we owned and abandoned this land many 100s of years ago so well we will just take it all.

[@stevenrosen8690]

As a South African I'll tell you that the problem with your argument is that unlike the name South Africa which was perhaps named by colonizers, the kingdom of Israel and the kingdom ofJudeah were names that existed long before Islam even existed. Palestine was a name given to the land by emperor Hadrian btw.132-135AD. I would also mention that modern day Jordan was a 70%part of Palaestina and the Hashemite kingdom are not native to that land. It always amuses me that this country is totally ignored when the future land for the present people identifying as Palestinians is discussed.

[@poisonivy745]

@@stevenrosen8690 The problem is going back 2000 years ago to claim you have property rights to someone else's land in the 21st century. Zionists have no problem accepting the existence of 21st century America, Canada, Australia, etc and they also have no problem owning land they are not native to. Zionists have no problem with property rights for themselves -they only believe Palestinians don't have them.

[@SwiggityPeanut]

​​​@@stevenrosen8690 Those kingdoms were so long ago that its irrelevant to reality this many millenia later. Yes, Hadrian named Palestine, Palestine, and it had remained so for almost 2000 years. The inhabitants of this land had many religious shifts since it was called Sumeria/Judea however, culturally it has remained consistent. The Jewish peoples became the Christian peoples which became the Muslim peoples. Genetically, Palestinians and the indigenous Mizrahi Jews are extremely similiar, because they are essentially the same people. Further, Palestinians and many Israelis, especially those Mizrahis that were there before 1948, share the same genetics as those who lived there millenia ago. This is documented. They are the original inhabitants. Essentially, if anyone has any real claim to this land its the Palestinians that were already there, regardless of religious beliefs. They have literally continuously inhabited the land. To forcefully partition, segment, rename, populate with foreigners to the land while expelling and ethnically cleansing the indigenous population is complete bs.

[@stevenrosen8690]

@SwiggityPeanut thank you for a civil response. Your assertion that Mizrahi jews are the only indigenous jews to the area is faulty. The Ashkenazi gene also originates from that area. But your mention of 'ethnic cleansing ' is totally misguided. In 1948 there were 156 000 Arabs in Israel, while today there are 1, 850,000. In 1948 there were close to 1,000,000 jews in Arab lands, yet today fewer than 10,000 remain. One could argue that the ethnic cleansing took place vice versa.

[@SwiggityPeanut]

@@stevenrosen8690 Your reply is disingenuous, whether by design or by ignorance of reality I do not know. I am not playing a game of semantics and to continue this discourse I would appreciate if you do not either. Of course a large percentage of the Jewish population of the Arab regions decreased. Why wouldnt those Jews emigrate to the place now called Israel, a place that invited them? In a small percentage of cases you very well could call their exodus an ethnic cleansing. The majority of cases however cannot be called that, as attested by many of the Jews and their descendants that remained within those Arab regions. Further, saying that my assertion of ethnic cleansing is misguided because the population of Palestinians within Israel after the Nakba only grew over time is itself misguided. Again, by design or by ignorance of the subject Im unsure. 750,000 Palestinians were displaced during the Nakba, 400-600 villages and towns were taken over or destroyed, their residents expelled in most cases, slaughtered in some. Hebraization of towns, of local histories, of landmarks all took place within a relatively short period of time. Census records destroyed, homes demolished. There were 1.4 million Palestinians living across Palestine before the Nakba, as documented by multiple sources. The Nakba itself is a documented occurence, documented by Israel itself. Bureaucracy is a double edged sword, things preferred hidden tend to rarely stay that way. Hagana, Irgun, Lehi, these militias enacted a campaign of terror across Palestine with soon-to-be-a-state approval. Again, all documented by them, themselves. The Palestinians left within the land that was once Palestine but forcefully became Israel did indeed number 150,000 or so, and yes, they did increase in number over time. That is how population growth works. However, ethnic cleansing is exactly what took place in 1948.

[@mohamedkaddouri9622]

What about solution 2 : Jews live in a Palestenian state with equal right with em 👍

[@HumanProgress]

Jews accepted a two-state solution as long as they could re establish their ancient homeland in areas of Palestine where Jews were the majority. According to the grand mufti of Jerusalem at the time, Haj Amin al-Husseini…………… it would violate Islamic law for even one inch of Palestine to be controlled by Jews.

[@cor-i-fey]

My understanding is that the current state of affairs in Israel is that current supreme court justices get to select new justices. The Prime Minister and the Knesset don't have a role. Imagine if that were the case in the US -- the Court would be perpetually captured by a side that starts out in the majority. Americans don't understand this and are happy to jump to conclusions.

[@tony16991]

That is the process in India as well. Its called the collegium system. The problem is that the other alternative is the govt. chooses the judiciary, which is more harmful because it strips away the independence of the judiciary.

[@YotamAlbalach]

different systems of governance and different systems of checks and balances. The US structure has a constitution, 2 houses, a government and a supreme court all seperate from eachother. Israel has no constitution, 1 parliament (knesset) which is controled by the government and a supreme court. And no, court justices don't select new court justices, it was changed a few years ago, but they (and the government as well) do get a veto forcing them and the government to compromise, this is fair considering the court is the only check on the government, so naturally if the government appoints its own judges, that singular check is gone. The current judicial overhaul offers Bibi's administration offers only weaken the supreme court's ability to provide checks and balances against the government, without replacing them with other measures like writing a constitution or building a seperate congress house, thus allowing the government to get unlimited power like other democracies: Poland, Hungary, Turkey, Russia and other broken democracies.

[@cor-i-fey]

@@YotamAlbalach Your point is well taken. That said, if current SCOTUS in the US had a veto power over appointments of new justices, it would very likely still get captured by only allowing new judges that align with its current leanings, which cannot be said to be ideal.

[@YotamAlbalach]

@@cor-i-fey true, it's not ideal. But it's not that bad that it requires such radical action. You are assuming the judges are all (or mostly) improfessional, corrupt and are all from the same political school. On the other hand the people that push for political take over of the judiciary are the same sector of people that prevented and objected to setting up a constitution, because the principle of equality doesn't suit their world view. One scenario is one that we seen happen time and time again where politicians seize power, and the inequality and corruption and general deteriaration that follows when they enact their very public agenda, and the other scenario is one that hasn't happened yet where judges are the dictators of a country. One scenario based on history and the public agenda of the people that want power, and the other scenario based on assumptions and something that hasn't happened ever in history.

[@jonjoni8]

​​@@YotamAlbalachit's not that bad that it requires radical action" is such a dangerous statement! You are ignoring so many facts. Yes, the Israeli system doesn't have as many checks and balances but the judicial system and people in other positions of power used this excuse to maintain a supreme court and lower courts that favour their agendas (left wing) and protect monopolies (when the big monopolies oppose the government you should at least be suspicious). If you'd ask all 15 supreme judges whether Israel should allow Arab immigration and for Israel to be a state that isn't fundamentally for the Jewish people, the majority will agree. The majority in the people though would say hell no - this would be the end of the country (it's not that hard to understand that's when you look around us and read history). As of now, if the committee to appoint judges comes together, there is a majority to appoint judges to all lower courts AGAINST the coalition's view. You need 1 more vote for a supreme court appointment to pass too. Any sensible person that isn't biased should scream at how anti democratic this is. Also, there are countless occurrences of how the leftists and judicial advisors give 0 ducks about "reasonability" or conflict of interests when it serves their agendas.

[@BloggerMusicMan]

I fully agree with Harari on this. I'm not an Israeli, but I've lived in Israel and know the country reasonably well for someone who isn't from there. Israeli democracy has been on shaky ground for much of its history, particularly because some of its people see it as incompatible with Israel's security concerns. The problem I see is that Israeli democracy is a significant part of what keeps its relationship with countries like the United States alive, which crucial to Israel's defence. Moreover, without Israeli democracy, there is also little hope of a two-state solution, because the courts in Israel have played a role in protecting Palestinian territory in the West Bank. Without that check, the Israeli government can run roughshod over Palestinian rights and basically make the West Bank and Gaza a part of greater Israel. If that happens, you either basically make Israel an apartheid state (even if not exactly like South Africa), or you try to make Israel a bi-national state, which would create an Arab majority. Neither outcome is good for Israel's security in the long run.

[@ihorperec4990]

There will never be any pressure from the US on Israel. Organizations like AIPAC will lobby for its support no matter what - even if Israel becomes a dictatorship. What's more dangerous is that Israel will stop being respected and loved by the rest of the Jewry. Diaspora Jews will start treating Israel like a demented 95-year old grandpa who needs diapers.

[@andrewlim9345]

Thankd for the interview. Must read Yuval Noah Harari's books one day.

[@gloriaf6971]

Good idea. You will not be disappointed.

[@graceann335]

Where can a Palestinian get ‘motivation’ for peace when her house is bulldozed in the West Bank?

[@Paradox-om6lm]

What he is saying is completely false. The current structure of the Israeli supreme court is absolutely undemocratic. Existing judges are allowed to nominate their successors with no accountability to the electorate, creating a rouge, all powerful council of 15 that can pick and choose which laws they believe should stand based on their political ideology. The reforms Netanyahu is trying to pass will only make the Israeli supreme court more democratic and more akin to the US supreme court.

[@marvinwilliams7938]

Thanks, this is the most sensible comment and backs up exactly what BN said in his podcast. Does you have any sources or proof about the actual balance f power in Israel? BN’s argument is that the judiciary is currently overpowered and he’s bringing it back to a balanced middle ground. Yuval claims different. So does anyone have the specifics to back up who is telling the truth? This is literally the key to answering who is right and wrong.

[@boliussa]

@@marvinwilliams7938 I reckon BB is probably right .. There's an old joke that the High court in Israel can't get any lower. And that was in the 1990s! The idea that Netanyahu who has been PM for longer thna anybody, is going to end democracy is insane. Also, Naftali Bennett his predecessor, is also in favour of judicial reform he just doesn't want to do something that drives the left so mad, he wants to keep more civility. BB said to Piers that the supreme court ruled that BB mustn't even speak about the subject! There is a debate between Alan Dershowitz and Eliezer Kontorovich.. Both are law professors. And iirc both agree that this is a very technical legal discussion and not something that should lead to some kind of global panic. Not an end to democracy.

[@whootoo1117]

At 15:00 "palestinians are not demanding what blacks of south africa was demanding" that is a false analogy. South africa was single country but in terms of palestine and israel, the world sees as 2 countries. They see themselves as 2 countries. So, It is like Namibia putting itself under the domination of south africa. What you don't acknowledge is that South African conquest was older of 300 years while Palestine is a new one and 75 years old which those palestinians whose land and houses taken by israeli illegal settlers are still internall displaced in refugee camps of Jenin, ramalah, syria and jordan. They are living having the keys of their homes to ones come back home. Second thing is that there are already palestinian arabs who got israeli citizenship who demand equal rights and political participation and still denied to get what they would have given a long ago. The story is a colonial settler project which has no hope for the future but is there for dark aims. It isn't good for both sides or the region as whole. Its the greed, the lies, nukes and bad mood packaged in a strip of land. Armagedon self-fulfilling prophecy as it seems. The guy knows some facts but he can blame a powerful guy but never the lies, the ideologies and genocides that israel done against the unarmed palestinians in 75 years. He talks as equal opponents which they are not. One is nuclear armed, the other has stones, candles and fireworks.

[@YotamAlbalach]

how can the indigenous people of the land be colonials? thats contradictary. Also genocide and apartheid have nothing to do with Israel/Palestine. Words have meanings, you can't just tag those horrible terms on to Israel without proof that those terms apply to it. There is one definition to "Indigenous" that can be applied to every territory and every nation you can't say Israelis are not the indigenous people of Israel unless you change the definition. Genocide has a definition meaning the systematic killing of a nation, causing a sharp and significant decline in population, none of that happened to palestinians. Apartheid was the rule of minority whites, foreign immigrants over the local black population, not giving them equal rights. Not the same story with Israel (the natives) that always agreed to live side by side with a palestinian country, and all Israeli citizens including Arab-Israelis have equal rights, while Palestinians citizens obviously don't get the same rights as Israeli citizens, just like Israeli citizens don't get the same rights as Palestinians if they are entering Gaza or Ramallah (by the way they are not allowed to enter Gaza or Ramallah, but lots of palestinians are allowed to enter Israel, who by the way employs the majority of working palestinians, does that mean Palestinians are practicing apartheid against Israelis?).

[@MeinMummyDust]

The Arabs don’t need to destroy Israel. Netanyahu is doing it for them.

[@simhei95]

Critical support for Bibi in his quest to destroy Israel

[@crazyeight9]

weird since Israel defteaed the Arab states many times. don't let leftist idiots from Tel Aviv fool you

[@roejogan9322]

The Arabs can’t destroy Israel 😂 Israel’s best luck is that it’s enemies are the Arabs

[@tutu3909]

Isra who ?! Y’all took Palestine and destroyed it long before 😂 don’t pretend to be innocent yehudi

[@crazyeight9]

@@tutu3909 Palestine has never been. country though. And they take money from the insane islamic barbarian savages of iran which isn't to great either.

[@TheBOOKofJOSEPH]

Lex, I am more then willing to appear on your podcast and unravel the pile of low brow uninformed political arguments made by Harari. It is utterly unethical to present an interview with such a so called.

[@JunglebuddyMusic]

Is Yuval related to WEF?

[@Palies-fu8hd]

yes he is a member according to the internet

[@miltonm9030]

I’m not so sure regarding the US. Look at how trump filled the SC with Republican judges and now we’re paying for it, i.e., Abortion, Affirmative Action, Gay Rights, etc.

[@abegiants]

The whole reason for this mess in Israel is because there is no consitiution that limits the bounadaries and outlines the authority and responsibility of the PM, the Knesset, and the citizens. As it stands now it is anarcho-tyranny in which everything is done through mob rule and horse trading between political parties. There are no term limits for PM, MKs, and the supreme court is a self annointed. Bibi is beholden to the super religious people that dont want to work and demand endless free benfits who are the highest growing demographic and in exchange they support many of his hardline stances that peolle on the political right like. While i think Bibi is corrupt and power mad, he is just a sypmtom of the whole problem. Reforming the supreme court that judges are picked by PM and approved by Knesset isnt that unreasonable. That is how its done in the US. However they are going beyond that in trying to do things in which hard core religious practices will be matters of public policy which is Iran theocrat style nonsense. Also bibis corruption and bribery trial does raise a conflict of interest. This whole mess is bc there is no constitution

[@HNKhan016]

If ukraine would just accept the state of novorussia and say okay, we dont want to destroy novorussia, we just want to be equal citizens of ot

[@sheknows9950]

Exactly what is happening here in America!!! Democracy is dying!

[@Joseph-fw6xx]

It almost happened when they stormed the capital

[@ihorperec4990]

@@Joseph-fw6xx The US military would have quashed the coup. Soldiers and generals gave an oath to the US Constitution, not to Trump.

[@MrNatrocks]

90% of Israelis do not agree with what he is saying. He is outright lying

[@PracticePermaculture]

The use of the term Apartheid is correct. It's not a comparison to South Africa. There is a legally binding definition, of which this situation has met the criteria for years. Nelson Mandela and Desmond Tutu both said decades ago the Palestinians were going through more than they ever had to.

[@crazyeight9]

is 2 million Arab Israelis aparteid

[@scartwright9350]

​@@crazyeight9existance of millions of black south africans didnt mean theres no apartheid. Its never been about numbers. Thats just rhetoric designed to take the attention away from rights.

[@averagecitizen863]

@@crazyeight9 you mean palestinians isreal wasn't able to get rid of and was forced to give citizenship to and are now seen as nothing more than a "problem"

[@jazura2]

​@@crazyeight9People don't get that 2 million Arab Israeli citizens have equal rights

[@mestawetendaylalu2977]

I do not think many of us didn't understand about the relation & function b/n the state of Israel and the power of the Almighty God!

[@Fitzcarraldo92]

I don't understand what people are saying about his WEF affiliations. Didn't he just give a single speech at Davos? It's not like he's on the board or anything.

[@JTD33]

My friend, this is the internet and here one piece of information is enough to make a final judgement of any individual.

[@OrganicaShadows]

Sure but I'm not sure if he is not a part of the cabal when he says we have to regulate A.I but doesn't mention how you first stop the big giant companies who have the most data! Is he trying to destroy people by taking their right to defend themselves or if not you have to talk to the big giant tech companies not ordinary people who try to develop and invent things!

[@jazura2]

He is considered to be the successor to Klaus Schwab

[@Fitzcarraldo92]

@@jazura2 sources? That sounds wrong.

[@az6802]

Yuval Noah's point on why he refrains from calling Israel an Apartheid state is completely off the mark. 1) Apartheid South Africa is NOT the benchmark for what is and what isn`t Apartheid. Apartheid has been adopted as a legal definition by the UN and can be applied to situations which do not exactly mirror South Africa 2) He mentions that another difference is that South African Blacks wanted rights as South Africans while Palestinians do not want rights as Israelis. This is irrelevant. Palestinians want HUMAN rights. And the Palestinians in occupied territories are currently 3rd class citizens with 3rd class rights. They have ZERO say in the matter of Israeli draconian military occupation. 3) Black South Africans did not call for the destruction of Apartheid South Africa? How can he say something so false ? Why was Nelson Mandela in prison for almost 3 decades? The Black South Africans had the same goal which Palestinians have.. which is the destruction of the status quo in governance.

[@HumanProgress]

"Apartheid" be careful what you wish for..... no apartheid (which we all want) means Jews are allowed to build houses and create communities anywhere in the world, including anywhere in the Arab world, and also in Judea/West Bank living and thriving right next to Palestinians. Anti Zionists are the only ones who don't want this.

[@brozbro]

"Control 2.5 millions against their will". Where have I heard this before?

[@roejogan9322]

With Morocco occupying west Sahara ? Or turkeys oppression of its Kurdish minority ?

[@brozbro]

@@roejogan9322 "Western Sahara is a sparsely-populated area of mostly desert situated on the northwest coast of Africa." "oppression" is one thing, subjugation and imprisoned are another. You refuse to see the difference just to state your defenseless case.

[@roejogan9322]

@@brozbro the people of Western Sahara are subjugated to violence and aggression by the Moroccan government. What point are you trying to make? My point is that you people are hypocrites: when Muslims commit violent acts and oppress people you guys don’t even know it exists but when Jews do it it becomes your life mission to uproot the evil colonialism- I say it how I see it: you’re all antisemites. I hope the Israeli and Palestinian people will see peace god willing one day but one thing is for sure it won’t be thanks to you

[@ChrisJones-dn9hz]

I cannot blame a single person for what's happening in Israel. It's undergoing cultural clashes just like in the US where the left is really focusing on values which are not important to a cohesive state. The main problem in Israel is what we thought held us together as a nation we see no longer does and we ourselves have to find what makes us a nation, and it's certainly not anything which currently offers itself as an option. It's a much deeper human nature type issue and nothing political. It's a massively superficial discussion currently and it needs a much deeper approach. It's a special nation in special times and history shows these people do not often choose love between them over hate. However now will show if the wrong approach is taken, the nation will dissolve, or worse be destroyed.

[@qaherharhash3704]

Yuval says that Israel/ Palestine is different than South Africa in terms of Apartheid. However, just because Palestinians demand the destruction of the Israeli colonial state doesn’t mean that what Israel practices isnt apartheid. People in the West Bank whether they want or not, live under military rule. At any time, even if a Palestinian supports a two state solution and lives under the PA controlled areas, Israeli military could at any time go and arrest them. That is aside from the fact that people in Ramallah and many Palestinians cities are limited from moving outside of their cities because of checkpoints installed by Israel. They are required to usually get an I.D or Permit to visit Jerusalem which is illegally occupied by Israel according to the United Nations.

[@andersonfranco2097]

What motivates a man to say what he doesn't mean?

[@batteryincorporated]

Yuval for president! History is key!

[@r2com641]

And what he will do? Loose his state?

[@batteryincorporated]

@@r2com641 his?

[@r2com641]

@@batteryincorporated yes. It’s idiotic statement, yuva has no f-one idea how to run Israel in its current state but Bibi does. All the liberal tears again about “killing democracy”

[@Jondantic]

Happy to go deep. I believe we all know that if humanity can sort out issues in the Middle East then we will all have a chance at a peaceful world

[@splinte111]

12:25 last i checked they already tried the 2 state solution and it ended up with Palestine attacking Israel 2 times and losing all their land once they lost the 2nd time. History is doomed to repeat itself if you don't learn from it, and i don't blame Israel for not wanting an aggressive anti-israeli, anti-US, and pro-China state on their border, especially when said state has already attacked them 2 times.

[@scottsound4711]

J O K E R

[@Mortai]

​@@scottsound4711and yet he is 100% correct

[@gerri577]

there is a war being waged today by Israel against the palestinians who have populated those lands since before 1948, when the state of Israel was created. The palestinians are fightting back, not for a 2 state solution (that idea was chucked yrs ago.) Today, they're fighting to keep the lands that were promised to them by the UN upon the creation of Israel. Those lands are now under occupation of Israel government and are being sold to settlers, most of whom are from European countries and who have converted to Judaism. Unless you are keeping a very close eye on the situation, you may not know enough about it to understand it.

[@GearedGaming76899]

Pro-China, you mean like selling US military equipment technology to China, oh wait that was Israel. But let me guess, mentioning that is anti-semetic 😂😂😂

[@Mr9mann]

Harari is everything I despise in the outlandish elitist.

[@openmicdiscussions5397]

I thought Lex was going to be getting both sides of the story with the Israel/Palestine conflict? Am I wrong about him saying this? If so, where is his interview with Palestenians so we can see both sides?

[@nixulescu9399]

indeed hopefully we see both sides of the story

[@MaxSignae]

Is he complaining about the semi-parliamentary system and compares with presidential? Well… it’s fundamental!

[@mohameda.s5559]

As a arab Palestinian living under the occupation of israel i can highly relate to how he describes the classes of people in the adopted way of handling the problem we as arab citizens deal with racism in job markets ,daily life etc… we are called class b ״סוג ב ״, the government literally induces crimes in the arab communities by having a non caring police force that actually makes our lives way harder with nonstop harassments , they are not acting to fight the “mafia” that are making all the crimes in the Arabian cites,whiles in the predominantly jewish cites the investigation gets solved almost instantly . We as Israeli baring Palestinians have it relatively easy , you cant imagine the things our brothers are experiencing due to the oppression of the occupation.

[@ateampossible]

Your narrative is as Fake as your claims Israel induces crime. Your culture is violent and full of honor killings, especially women because they allegedly hurt the honor of the family. out of 2022 statistics of women killed by spouse, 20 out 24 were Arab women, despite being only 21% of the population. You marriages and other celebrations is done by shooting in the air in your cities.

[@moshak1455]

@ateampossible the only thing fake is your "jewishness" and your explanations on anything in this conflict. Everyone knows who you are. Stop lying.

[@mito88]

​@ateampossible the terms "honor" and "killing" are not compatible. with regards to violence, fundamentalist muslims are, in essence, similar to their christian and jewish counterparts.

[@crazyeight9]

didn't Palestinians elect Hamas. Not exactly a good look. And aren't they taking funding from the insane islamic savages of iran

[@roejogan9322]

עם כמה שאתה צודק, יש בנוסף אחריות עצומה על המגזר לקחת את עצמם בידיים, למצוא מנהיגים ערביים ראויים ולא לתת מקלט לעבריינים. למטבע הזאת יש שני צדדים ולא הכול יכול לבוא מהיהודים.

[@benkanli724]

Lex call his bullshit if you have the balls. It is easy to talk against Kanye. You were a lil to calm for this topic.

[@youknow6968]

He just described an apartheid state, then continued to say it's not 😂, that's a joke. South Africa was a black state, how could they reject it? Palestine is a Palestinian territory, on which another state has come into being, so the rejection is a valid option.

[@kankamoussa1957]

He is strongly biased on the Apartheid comparison. Israel is an Apartheid state.

[@chaoukimachreki6422]

I love Lex. His sincerity is just refreshing. Who would have thought that Israel's worst enemy is Israel?! It makes my skin crawl , the mighty Israel is suffocating with its own hands. Thank God For secular Jews. all the duaas of the arabs all these years is eventually taking effect. الله أكبر

[@charlie2485]

So much respect for Harari

[@levteshler5072]

Unfortunately, his discourse remains at the emotional level. Instead of explaining the details of the juridical reforms he just claims that this gives unlimited power to the government. Netanyahu claims the opposite - that the reforms restore the balance of power between government and supreme court. But how to know who is right (or if both exaggerate) if noone bothers to use actual facts like qouting paragraphs from the law bill ??

[@aomar9631]

A nice educated open conversation in stark contrast to netanyahu podcast with lex .. in which lex found and ran into An Experienced Manipulative Sociopath

[@boliussa]

Not really. . Lex can't really challenge either Yuval or Netanyahu. Netanyahu already gave him some strong arguments and LEx isn't even able to put them to Yuval with them. Lex made more effort to challenge Netanyahu. Lex hasn't challenged Yuval at all. Even Yuval's completely wild claim about the end of democracy. When Netanyahu already explained that it's just to reduce the power of the supreme court to the level 20 years ago. Netanyahu has been PM for longer than anybody. The idea Yuval states that he's trying to end democracy makes no sense. It's so easy to challenge Yuval on this 'cos Yuval is an intellectual lightweight. But Lex can't. Lex doesn't even attempt to challenge Yuval.. But he did attempt to challenge Netanyahu. Asking him what the opponetns say and saying he was the most hated man. Let's see Lex challenge Yuval even a fraction of that much, It won't happen. Note- just to make this more idiot proof 'cos apparently one commenter got confused. I'd add " Netanyahu has been democratically elected each time and (even according to the wild left in israel that oppose this law), israel has remained a democracy but, according to them, suddenly he wants the end of democracy. "

[@Youtoober6947]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@boliussa”netenyanu has been pm for longer than anybody” Followed by “the idea yuval states that he’s trying to end democracy makes no sense” Is absolutely hilarious. The IDF cyber social engineering department needs better recruitment processes apparently

[@boliussa]

@@Youtoober6947 okay maybe that wasn't idiot proof enough for you.. you crackpot. He has been democratically elected each time and israel has remained a democracy and only now the wild left are saying it's the end of democracy. If you want to make the claim that israel already isn't a democracy because Netanyahu has been PM so long then good luck trying. You'd be the first maniac to make that claim. As for your conspiracy theory that i'm paid by the IDF, I could claim you are paid by iran, but unlike you, i'm honest. And also, your comments are so stupid they'd fire you!

[@crazyeight9]

@@Youtoober6947 netanyahu has been democratically elected by the people of Israel more than any body. There fixed it for you fool

[@wahidazribi8676]

11:45 what did he said is not innocent either funny it's dangerous

[@akhalif68]

Yes I agree (with much sadness in my heart) that Netanyahu will remembered as a "human bulldozer" who destroyed Israel as a unified nation...

[@crazyeight9]

Netanyahu won the last election by a lot. Don't let unhinged leftists in Tel Aviv make you disillusioned

[@ellengeller4832]

Profoundly insightful observations by Harari. Prescient.

[@OmegaFares]

I can agree with him on most of what he said and I am one of those who thinks Israel should have never existed.

[@MMerlyn91]

I couldn't give one damn what this progressive joke has to say, he'll hate anyone slightly to the right of his demented views.

[@francoisavejaculates7045]

Everyone sitting: Are you thirsty? Are you hungry? Would you like to sleep? The bathroom's over there. Thanks for the help. Goodbye. The End.

[@AessamL]

I highly respect Yuval sooo much, but the fact that he can't see that the current Isreal is - and always was - a product of messianic and religious group is so … Entertaining!

[@Chatbot111]

Israel as a “small country in the Middle East” is a smidgen of a smackerel of a bit of an understatement 😂

[@Freemouse159]

Made me chuckle too - American wallets are weighted light due to this small country...

[@stevenweiss2575]

so too bad that when Netanjahu was a guest and said the change was insignificant, and his opponents are exaggerating, you did not have this push back.

[@cupotkaable]

Arguing that it's "insignificant" is rediculous, if it's a small thing why they are so pushy about it and willing to pay all the economic, social, security price to push that?

[@alid3859]

Chomsky has even a better answer 🙌

[@ihorperec4990]

Strange comparison. Chomsky is a radical leftist with dementia who doesn't like Israel, whereas Yuval Harari is a liberal and a patriot of Israel.

[@janklaas6885]

📍13:42 yeahhh

[@TheMykr0]

Lex is in BNs pocketbook now 😂

[@JamaWarsame-e4q]

Power absolutely corrupts absolutely and even America have issues. Now imagine small poor countries

[@standinginthecrowd5220]

May Harari's prophecy come true.

[@tzvibendaniel2045]

Amazing how he condemns the totalitarian strategies of Israel while espousing the same values with the WEF. Maybe if Schwab was PM of Israel he would have a different take

[@lordsneed9418]

yuval Harari : "The conflict with palestine was never a religious conflict before it was a national conflict" Oh except since the conflict first began when the different surrounding arab muslim groups always sided with palestine against israel because they all followed the same religion. It took more than 50 years before countries like UAE started establishing diplomatic ties with Israel. Why is Harari misrepresenting the situation and hiding the impact of religion from history?

[@justhuman3886]

Agreed with much of it except that "majority of Palestinians want to destroy Israel " part. Infact majority of Palestinians want and support two states solution and that's what they are and have been demanding.

[@YotamAlbalach]

When will those people be the ones in charge of Palestinian society and get to key leadership roles? Right now the majority of the public supports Hamas which publicly and openly declares it wants to destroy Israel and doesn't want any two state solution, and the Palestinian Authority only has a small support, which only diminishes every time they even attempt to co-operate with Israel. When will a palestinian leader arise that tells his people "we need to abandon violence, and unifie for peace"? And when will this leader have the public support of the people? When can this palestinian leader have the balls to police his own people and disband the many rogue militant groups fragmenting palestinian society? While I tend to believe that theres a large portion, maybe even a majority, of palestinians that want peace and a two state solution, they are not in power, they do not have a voice, and they are taking a back seat to the Palestinians that really do want to destroy Israel.

[@douglaskbrown1154]

How many arab people or politicians are willing to accept the state of Israel without hating the Israelis?

[@kingmemf4002]

Funny how he will reject the apartheid analogy because of differences but will compare this situation to England vs Scott's or some other history conflict.

[@kankamoussa1957]

He is strongly biased on the Apartheid comparison. Israel is an Apartheid state.