在食物面 金剛Iriki是完全優勢Iriki is completely dominant for food side

影片是2024/7/26(五)拍攝。
The video filmed on July 26 (Friday), 2024
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台灣金剛迪亞哥家族 ☘️ Gorilla D'jeeco Troop - Taipei Zoo, Taiwan
關於金剛家族的照片與基本介紹，你可以看我KZbin首頁橫幅。
About gorillas photos and basic introduction, you can see the banner of my KZbin page.
【English introduction】
🌛D'jeeco (Male)
Birthday October 22nd,1998
November, 2016 - From Opole Zoo (Poland) moved to Taipei Zoo,Taiwan
🌈Tayari (Female)
Birthday February 23rd, 2011
November, 2019 - From Apenheul Primate Park (Netherlands) moved to
Taipei Zoo,Taiwan
Tayari is same dad as Iriki, is Iriki's younger sister.
⭐️Iriki (Female)
Birthday January 10th, 2011
November, 2019 - From Apenheul Primate Park (Netherlands) moved to
Taipei Zoo,Taiwan
Iriki is same dad as Tayari, is Tayari's older sister.
👶🏻 Jabali (Male)
Birthday October 31st, 2020 ( Mom : Tayari )
👶🏻Ringo (Male)
Birthday May 28th, 2021 ( Mom : Iriki )
🦍🦍🦍🦍🦍🦍🦍🦍🦍🦍🦍
【中文檔案】
🌛【中文】迪亞哥-男
生日 1998/10/22
2016年11月，從波蘭的Opole Zoo 來到台灣。
🌈【中文】Tayari-女
生日 2011/02/23
2019年11月，從荷蘭的Apenheul Primate Park來到台灣。
Tayari是Iriki同父異母的妹妹。
⭐️【中文】Iriki-女
生日 2011/01/10
2019年11月，從荷蘭的Apenheul Primate Park來到台灣。
Iriki是Tayari同父異母的姊姊。
👶 Jabali-男 2020/10/31 (媽媽Tayari)
👶 Ringo-男 2021/05/28 (媽媽Iriki)
#金剛猩猩 #iriki #tayari

[@gorilladjeecotroop]

It was a little quarrel. While Tayari was eating, Iriki came over to express dissatisfaction, and Tayari fought back. D‘jeeco seems like he breaking up the fight and tell two wives not to quarrel. Iriki is obviously strong when it comes to food. As for other aspects, about the status of the two wives all depend a thing what happened. D'jeeco has improved a lot. In the past, he would have been biting Tayari's back. Recently, he has been using a relatively gentle approach #my own interpretation: D'jeeco has a huge body, and his movement is strong and fast. Although it looks like he is teaching his wives a lesson, it feels like he is telling them to stop fighting. 這是一個小爭執。Tayari在吃菜時，Iriki走過來表達不爽，Tayari也不甘示弱。迪亞哥感覺是來勸架，叫兩位老婆不要吵架。Iriki在食物方面，明顯是強勢的，食物面的地位，也比較佔上風一點。至於其他方面，兩個老婆不一定。 迪亞哥有進步許多，以前的話，一定都是咬Tayari的背部。近期迪亞哥都是用比較和緩的方式（我自己解讀：迪亞哥身體龐大，動作跑步什麼都大，雖然看起來很像教訓老婆，但感覺是叫兩個老婆停止吵架）。

[@giselavo8842]

Warum kann man sie nicht einzeln und gerechter füttern🤔🫣😥😳

[@giselavo8842]

Poor Tayari😥

[@gorilladjeecotroop]

@@giselavo8842 Gorillas are social group animals (not each one is separated by a room), and at the beginning Iriki sat at the left door at 00:25, Tayari sat at the right side door. Keeper usually feeding them every doors separate.

[@bosnbruce5837]

From what I've seen D'jeeco never used more 1/10 of his bite power. He pins them down with his head, biting their back while shaking his entire body. It looks terrifying, but if there was any conviction to that bite, he would tear them apart. Gorillas are very conscious of their power, else they would be walking around with their limbs missing. Unlike my parrot, who either has no idea or does not care about the pressure her beak can impart on poor me.

[@bosnbruce5837]

Oh... and one other thing. When he pins them down biting their back and shaking his entire body like he's tearing them apart...his neck and head are completely static. Meaning that all of that shaking his torso does not transfer to the bite itself - IT'S ALL A SHOW!

[@wtyuan5588]

躲了老公的發情後，還要應付姐姐對食物的強勢，塔塔最近真累😮‍💨

[@gorilladjeecotroop]

不過塔塔每天下午也在對姊姊擊胸或丟樹枝，換個角度來說，有時也覺得兩姊妹是在互相😅😅

[@user-ed7ex6ef9q]

Tayari 今天很幸運，不但躲過D’jeeco的攻擊0:49還成功的K到Iriki 的頭

[@Sinaandsarah1]

Pls give my girl tayari some treats , ofcourse there where the others don’t see her😫😩

[@lady4vols]

That was totally Iriki’s fault.

[@gorilladjeecotroop]

@@lady4vols No need to blame any gorillas. This is their things.

[@ninawest8]

They do need a better feeding system. When will they learn? Some zoos are too proud to copy other zoo's better care and enrichment protocols.

[@gorilladjeecotroop]

If you want to suggest increased the amount of food, I agree. But the feeding methods are actually not very different from those in European and American zoos. So could you please provide us some specific suggestions, like what do you think we should do?

[@ninawest8]

@gorilladjeecotroop First, more food and variety. Boxes with food,they love to open them. Scatter honey and peanut butter in different places, so they may have to use a stick to get to. More feeding balls. I saw one zoo makea peanut feeder out of a tree trunk. They cut holes in it, and they had to get the nuts out. Tayari is so smart, and she gets bored more often than the others...food games and food puzzles would do her well... and teach the others. And,basically more of what they have. More foraging and less throwing. Also,I wish they would get way bigger pieces of blankets. They would love that. I love this troop so much. Not all zoo's are perfect. Most of them are still learning, and sometimes, just a suggestion can help for the better.🤎🦍😍

[@gorilladjeecotroop]

@@ninawest8 Thank you for the comment. And could you please tell me whcih zoo made the peanut feeder if you remember. I want see the video. If I know the zoo name, I can try to search some information on websites. Thank you so much.

[@giselavo8842]

Poor Tayari

[@AlinaWhitfield0510]

Please don’t blame gorillas. ❤❤❤peace and love❤❤❤

[@tracey9116]

Exactly. I think Tay's hormone levels are up because D'jeeco seems like he's trying to mate with her the past few days. And we all know Tay and Iriki will make up ❤ I dislike them all being fed together because tensions rise, but it's not my zoo.

[@AlinaWhitfield0510]

@@tracey9116 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

[@aliceobryant618]

Not blaming the gorillas, just commenting on their behavior and what I perceive as unfair feeding tactics. I don’t see Momo’s or Haoki’s troops fighting for food (not that they don’t but it’s not frequently filmed). Not blaming Iriki because I think she is ill, however, it’s the human me that is slap happy glad that Tay fought back and didn’t make it easy for her.🤷🏽🤷🏽🤷🏽🤷🏽

[@user-fj2vf9gu6o]

柿子挑軟的吃，可憐的Tayari 被D和I欺壓😢

[@gorilladjeecotroop]

恩恩!對迪亞哥來說，確實Tayari個性上是比較彈性。

[@lady4vols]

Yeah Iriki totally instigated that. Tayari gets in trouble no matter and it’s getting old.

[@ashbeck1736]

I agree. It always seems as if Tayari is unfairly scolded by DJ. I know he isn't really hurting her, but its upsetting to watch.

[@lady4vols]

@@ashbeck1736 I agree.

[@janetliu5854]

我跟這裡很多人的意見一樣, 為什麼要用這種餵食方式? 很顯然的不公平. 弱勢的猩猩被排擠在後面吃不到. 看過很多次了, Tayari總是等在最後才能去拿, 但有時食物發完了, 她沒有拿到或只能拿到很少的食物. 另外, 從影片看來其實大家都很餓, 雖然你解釋這是佈食外另外再發放的食物, 但我看來大家包括兩兄弟都在搶食, 明顯一家五口都還很餓. 食物發放的方式及食物的量一直都是我認為北動該檢討的地方, 無奈人微言輕. 但起碼, 讓動物為了食物爭執成這樣就表示做法有待改進.

[@gorilladjeecotroop]

我認同大猩需要增加食物量這件事，特別是冬天的時候。希望動物園營養師，能看到這篇。但今天後面保育員有塞給塔塔，只是因為塔塔大背面，所以我就沒錄了，但她手上有綠綠的萵苣葉。

[@JoséeVézina]

Im agree with you shes hungry 😢.

[@denisemorris1177]

Taking food from Ringo’s hands 😢

[@giselavo8842]

Kann man sie nicht besser einzelnfüttern??

[@dipaliparmar7785]

D'jeeco Is Really An Amazing, Gentle with Babies and Strong And Understanding Husband And Very Calm and Sweet Handsome Big Fella. 😍💪🏼😊 I Love How He Handles All Of Them. Obviously, He's Dominant, So He have His Own Way to Teach them. 😌 Love D'jeeco Family. 💜💜

[@tlytle1271]

D’jeeko is typical male

[@denisemorris1177]

No she didn’t just move him from his spot!😮😮

[@BsTheLadynred]

Ringo is trying to get Mom to calm down.

[@shabtistore]

Tayari not playing either... She pushing become the Queen Matriarch...

[@Im_armyBTS]

Tayari esta harta del comportamiento de Iriki y yo también.

[@AnaMariaNajera-lx2st]

@Im_army hola bonito día para ti 😊 comprendo tu enojo, pero mi reyna Tayari, no está harta de mi gordita linda Iriki, en el fondo se aman, tuvieron un mal momento, como en las relaciones humanas, quizá tu lo has tenido en algún momento de tu vida con algún familiar, y no por eso ya no la vas a querer, si te das cuenta Tay se defendió muyyy bien, incluso como salto para darle un manotazo a la cabeza de Iriki 😅tu amor por Tayari te hace tener resentimientos contra Iriki, cuando Tay también tiene sus defectos, te lo dice alguien que como favoritos tiene a Tayari y jabalí 😘🦍🦍 pero amo y siento empatía por mi gordita Iriki ella sufre de stress y se refugia en la comida se depila y también lo hacía con Diego se volvió solitaria, ella es atacada con comentarios groseros 😢y l@s que aman a Iriki también atacan a Tayari 😢se dejan llevar por el amor que sienten por su gorila favorito y atacan al otro y allí es cuando viene lo injusto porque todos humanos y animales tenemos parte buena y otra no tanto, te lo digo con respeto a tu comentario esperando que lo reflexiones y te enojes menos 🙋✌️

[@Im_armyBTS]

​@@AnaMariaNajera-lx2st opinó muy diferente a ti y respeto tu comentario. La relación de las hermanas se ha roto se puede ver que en cuanto Iriki se acerca Tayari se aleja incluso cuando no se trata de comida. Iriki es un gorila sensible que se irrita fácilmente, sus gritos son capaces de enojar a DJ y el ataca a Tayari, lo cual en mi opinión hace de DJ un mal líder, porque he visto que Iriki le falta el respeto y el ataca a Tayari. Fue un error desde mi punto de vista traer a dos hermanas juntas, en los videos que he visto en Apenheul Iriki y Tayari no se ven cercanas entonces posiblemente ambas hermanas tenían diferencias desde antes. Los niños crecerán y se pondrá difícil de ver, al ver a sus madres atacandose van a imitar su comportamiento.

[@Im_armyBTS]

​@@AnaMariaNajera-lx2st concuerdo, Tayari no es perfecta. Pero desde hace tiempo a quien he visto instigando es a Iriki, los gorilas en mi opinión no son seres tontos, atacan a la cría de otra y luego huyen porque saben como va reaccionar la una con la otra.

[@WahranRai]

It's Tayari who wants to grab the food, she started by pushing Ringo!

[@Im_armyBTS]

​Quien está al lado de Tayari es Jabali y no lo empuja. Ringo está arriba de la puerta. 0:03 Iriki trata de alejar a Jabali y Tayari. Ella se va y luego regresa y lanza un ataque a Tayari. ​@@WahranRai

[@user-vi8lx6dm7o]

Iriiki reminds me genki in the momontaro troop. Genki has food addiction and will take all the food away from her family members when she can. This is what happens when the gorillas are food spoiled.

[@SnlkSk]

Poor Tayari. D'jeeco always blindly favours Iriki.

[@jagdish4125]

Yes so sad

[@janetliu5854]

No wonder Tayari refused to mate with him. She doesn't want to have another kid with him.

[@sonjavandam1306]

​@@janetliu5854That's a very human thing to say. When they start screeching, that's when I turn the sound of.😩

[@tracey9116]

@@janetliu5854 For anyone that is against this, are you aware of how many of our WLLG in zoos are directly related and how few babies we have had in the past 3 years? This NEEDS to happen badly. If D'jeeco wasn't so gentle, it would have already happened. There are only 5 potential future mates for Ringo and Jabali and all have to make it to adulthood first. Would you want D'jeeco, Tayari and Iriki's amazing lineage to end with Ringo and Jabali? What if something happened to them? Maybe I see things differently because I spent my entire life in this field. I know the common viewer isn't going to think the same.

[@ashbeck1736]

@@tracey9116 That would be a great loss for their lineage not to be more abundant as Ringo and Jabali are just the most unique and adorable gorilla toddlers. I would love to know that this bloodline is proliferated. DJ is such an impressive father, patient, attentive, even loving, but with Tayari he seems at times unjust. She is also so unique in her joie de vivre as a fun mom and aunt. I feel protective about her and wished DJ would be more fair about the refereeing of the disputes between Iriki and her. I know Tayari sometimes starts it, but she gets the blame either way.

[@ladiabla4171]

I hate this zoo. They have to find a better way to feed them. When will they realize that their way is not working. The keepers are causing some of the fights.

[@mentayflor]

More food for everybody 🙏🏽

[@omenoflaherty1294]

Looks like a terrible way to feed them.

[@gorilladjeecotroop]

@@omenoflaherty1294 First, you have trying know their outside enclosure position, and please try to know more information about gorilla feeding. terrible is not a good word here I think.

[@tiajuanacoates4687]

​@gorilladjeecotroop as much as you show them being fed these instances are rare in comparison. You really don't see them fight that much.

[@janetliu5854]

讓動物為了食物爭執成這樣, 我想在其他動物園確實很少見. 用可怕其實不為過.

[@gorilladjeecotroop]

@@janetliu5854 他指的是餵食方式，妳講的是量，是不同面向的。

[@user-gh3ik3ro3z]

猩猩們在等待食物的方式，難免會醞釀久待的負情緖.... 觀察幾個猩猩家族是安排室內室外活動交替時，預先把食物散放置各處，猩猩家族活動完後，一進室內或走出戶外，就可以覓食了，免除集體等待食物，尤其肚子餓時是沒有好心情！

[@gorilladjeecotroop]

@@user-gh3ik3ro3z 她們在佈食吃完一輪後，過半個小時多，才是門口個別發菜。是已經吃過食物囉！大猩猩餐次很多，影片中這只是一天中，其中一種的餵食方式而已。每天都會有基本的投食、佈食、門口左右門分別餵。

[@user-gh3ik3ro3z]

​@@gorilladjeecotroop 謝謝妳的説明.... 多樣式餵食法固然是好 但因餵食法造成紛爭 是該因應而調整方式 類似窗口餵食在桃太郎家族 乃針對源太郎與金太郎幼年期飼養員與牠們餵食逗樂方式 在其它家族鮮少因食物而爭吵 投食、佈食是同時間一起覓食 如果在食物量夠的話就足矣.... 純粹個人淺見！😅😅😅

[@gorilladjeecotroop]

@@user-gh3ik3ro3z 我對餵食方式反而沒有任何想法。相比去年2023與前年2022，Tayari與Iriki在戶外場的爭執少了超多(不論是食物、其他因素)。 門口的餵食方式是在去年新增的，新增這個，餐次會變更多，餐次多對他們來說是好的。 但如果說每個餐次的量，都能拿捏剛好會更理想。目前看下來，覺得外場早餐、回家的晚餐是最豐盛的吧! 大部分時間，待在外場吃的量就比較沒那麼多。內場有訓練、或待在屋內，保育員也會餵食，只是我們遊客看不到而已。 其實他們吵架的原因很多種，甚至我們觀察很久的，也不一定百分百猜到。所以全部歸咎餵食方式而吵架，老實說我覺得不是很客觀。 至於食物量，這個有其他園友建議過。但一個動物園有成本考量等等，加上門票費也算便宜，覺得這又是另一個課題吧! 目前看一家子的感覺，是六七分飽，但不會到九分飽那種。 動物園飼育跟養寵物方式不同，餓了其實也是可以拔草吃。 日本那邊，有園友看過其中一個動物園現場，據說根莖類量算多，所以真的不太搶食。 影片畢竟呈現的只是一小部分，這個影片說真的，是一個很小很小的吵架，稱不上是大猩猩的打架。對於迪亞哥這次的處理方式，我覺得蠻好蠻公平的。

[@user-vr8vt5iw4u]

希望可以改善餵食方式 大家都看在眼裡 心疼Tayari

[@gorilladjeecotroop]

我對餵食方式反而沒有任何想法。相比去年2023與前年2022，Tayari與Iriki在戶外場的爭執少了超多(不論是食物、其他因素)。 門口的餵食方式是在去年新增的，新增這個，餐次會變更多，餐次多對他們來說是好的。 但如果說每個餐次的量，都能拿捏剛好會更理想。目前看下來，覺得外場早餐、回家的晚餐是最豐盛的吧! 大部分時間，待在外場吃的量就比較沒那麼多。內場有訓練、或待在屋內，保育員也會餵食，只是我們遊客看不到而已。 其實他們吵架的原因很多種，甚至我們觀察很久的，也不一定百分百猜到。所以全部歸咎餵食方式而吵架，老實說我覺得不是很客觀。

[@JoséeVézina]

😢😢😢😢❤❤❤❤

[@JamesWardGodsMagicGuy]

There's a reason he's alpha in the wild this behavior be also showing boundaries, sadly giving them food rather than hunting or learning to get from various means just make for a board animals. I despise lazy zoo keeping

[@chakamz9809]

このごろDJとIrikiがTayariを排除しようとしてるように見えてしまう． こんなことが続くと，タヤリはDJを好きでなくなってしまうかもしれない．それは残念すぎる． 誰かが言っていたように，私もTayariこそこの一家の魂だと思う．

[@user-zu7qp9bz2e]

吃飯時，真的別惹I媽，這次D爸很公平

[@gorilladjeecotroop]

這真的是一個很小很小的爭執，迪亞哥也沒有對任何媽媽怎樣，單純只是想要兩位老婆不要再吵了!想要和平落幕。

[@user-ru1gs9lv1g]

食物好像放太少了餓

[@janetliu5854]

大家都看得出來, 一家五口都在門前搶食, 甚至不太顧慮廸亞哥的領導地位, 代表真的餓了.

[@gorilladjeecotroop]

@@janetliu5854 沒那麼浮誇吧！明明就只有Iriki很明顯想拿食物。妳留言可以，但請針對這個影片內容，不要把以前妳的感覺，都寫在這吧！因為我今天在現場拍攝，完全感受不到像妳所說的，五隻猩都在門前搶食。雖然有言論自由，但不是這樣寫的吧！

[@birgitdeppe6742]

​@@gorilladjeecotroopWhat Bad Thing did janetliu say?🤔

[@delphine88313]

Oh, well if the zookeepers dont come up with a solution you will have fights over food.They know how " I" loves food and dont even share with her son. Nothing to see here 🙄

[@sonjavandam1306]

Gorillas don't share food, I've seen both mom's run after their kids & take their food.

[@delphine88313]

@sonjavandam1306 I know they don't share( I have watched a lot of gorilla video to see that ). I'm saying it would be nice to find a way to give to everyone equally without food wars.😊

[@BsTheLadynred]

@@delphine88313 They're animals not humans. They're not going to act like humans. They wouldn't act any different in the wild.

[@delphine88313]

@@BsTheLadynred hmm.you don't say.I thank you for bringing it to my attention they are animals. I just didn't see that .smh

[@JoséeVézina]

Om

[@JoséeVézina]

Error

[@PatriciaPageMosaicArtsCrafts]

Tayari is the most intelligent of them all, yet she is the beta 😢 who said life is fair 😢

[@bosnbruce5837]

Don't fall for this alpha/beta/dominance nonsense please. There is much much more to it, than our childish pack theory.

[@PatriciaPageMosaicArtsCrafts]

@bosnbruce5837 Don't make rude comments without context, explain ?

[@tracey9116]

@@PatriciaPageMosaicArtsCrafts Iriki and Tay were born and raised together. They are like Ying/Yang. If you ever observe their fights it's almost always about food or they're territorial with each other. I've always said from observations that Iriki was more dominant and Tayari more submissive. Just two totally different personalities, but love them both.

[@tracey9116]

@@bosnbruce5837 Do tell.

[@PatriciaPageMosaicArtsCrafts]

@tracey9116 Hi Tracey thank you for your feedback they really are fabulous sisters 😊 ❤️

[@Kola833]

Wow Djeeco is so chauvinistic,he eats first in everything and his wives fight between themselves

[@tracey9116]

@@Kola833 100% typical , normal, western lowland gorilla behavior.

[@gorilladjeecotroop]

All silverbacks have food priority.

[@JoséeVézina]

Il saf

[@JoséeVézina]

Error

[@giselavo8842]

😥🫣

[@JoséeVézina]

Tayari dont eat is not ok for she 😢

[@gorilladjeecotroop]

Keeper later fed her

[@juliajohnson6022]

Tayari tends to dominate the food and Iriki gets tired of it.😢❤️🇺🇸. Glad the keeper gave Iriki some food.

[@Im_armyBTS]

Tayari es la más delgada y la que menos he visto comiendo, la que suele pelear por comida hasta con DJ es iriki. ¿Estamos observando a la misma tropa?

[@strangerlovesgorillas]

@@Im_armyBTS You're right.

[@joeychen9124]

餓鬼媽真的是有夠壞的！

[@janetliu5854]

I媽沒有錯, 她也很餓也需要爭取食物, 錯的是餵食的方式及量造成如此的衝突.

[@joeychen9124]

@@janetliu5854 為什麼別人都可以排隊、餓鬼媽就要這樣？餓鬼媽就是靠著幼子媽的特權搶著要吃東西！照你說的、那保育員在餵迪亞哥餓鬼媽也可以很餓去插隊啊！也是保育員餵食方法錯誤啊！

[@gorilladjeecotroop]

資深粉絲有比較含蓄了 😅😅不過有時我也只能說是互相 塔塔常常到下午拍胸挑釁(但有時候只是單純想玩 引起姊姊注意) 不過Iriki如果不要那麼愛吃，也就不會發生這種爭執了!

[@bxchicc7799]

Does anyone have any links to old videos of D'Jeeco when he was young? Who are his parents? Is he related to any of the other Gorillas in Japan? Or does he have any relation with Gorillas from the US? I would love to know about his life. He's an amazing SilverBack with so much love and patience❤🦍

[@gorilladjeecotroop]

About D'jeeco profile www.gorillasland.com/djeeco.php When D'jeeco was in poland kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4mXn3ylqZp4itksi=XvQKyT6ds-bbiHKP kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6PTYaaMebhmi7ssi=ApcnUrTHd_b3rm72 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIm3nZSoq5qZpqMsi=yePz63YaQbHjoevq kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4TYqYSKjtZ1bLMsi=MIMF9Ovp_5tmdnJU

[@bxchicc7799]

@@gorilladjeecotroop Thank you so very much

[@gorilladjeecotroop]

@@bxchicc7799 No problem!