Z Review - Mr Speakers Æon Open & Closed

[@azeller09]

21:44 how they sound

[@lambofHerobrine]

King Of The Internet

[@ZE0SPantera]

SPOILERS BRO

[@hxsm8090]

THANK YOUUUUUUU

[@KWW0321]

Thank you dude, these reviews are getting rougher.

[@gwynbleiddroach2589]

do you think that the aeon flow closed would be better than vmoda crossfade? real question because I'm new to this.

[@TMRaven]

33:50 No, Dan tuned them distinctly differently. The closed back is tuned to be more neutral, with less of a mid-bass, upper-bass bump-- it's actually slightly depressed there imo-- and more upper mids in the 1-2khz area. Upper treble around 10khz-12khz is slightly less too. The open Aeon is tuned with a beefy mid-upper bass and slightly depressed upper mid, with slightly more energetic 10-12khz. The Closed is a flatter response, while the open is a mild u-shape. I don't consider either better than the other, but when I had the two on hand at the same time, I came away preferring the open, with its lack of wide soundstage being its biggest takeaway. My ears also don't get moist over time with the open as opposed to the closed, which was another reason why I preferred the open.

[@ryanduffy5549]

Zeos: "These sound like the truth." Me: "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!"

[@666PANDEMONIUM]

I remember Jerry Harvey (Founder of Ultimate Ears, Owner of JH audio, prominent recording engineer) saying that the audio future that he has sort of envisioned is one where the end-consumer has full access to DSP and EQ to make their equipment sound the way that they like it. Basically, he thinks that all equipment should ship out from the factory near-neutral, and the endgame consumer should have the tools to tweak it according to their preference. This is why he has teamed up with Astell&Kern and done so many projects with them because the EQ software on their DAPs is amazing and people can make his IEMs sound exactly how they want them to. That all companies should be worried about is making amazing hardware and that the colour of the sound should be left up to the consumer. Because everyone has their preferences, especially in the bass department. He actually likened it to buying food from the grocery store and then seasoning it yourself. I bring this up to dispute the people who absolutely hate EQ and yourself when you said that you feel that you shouldn't have to EQ a set of cans to review them. Of course you are entitled to your opinion. I'm not trying to say that you are "wrong" or anything like that. This is audio and we audiophiles should all just be having fun. However, I do feel that people who won't even touch the software side of things are missing out. I think that perhaps they already have the perfect equipment for them and they just don't realize it because they haven't tried customizing it to their preference. If the future really is that all high-end equipment will ship out neutral and the EQ will be left up to the consumer I think that they will have a hard time adjusting to the new environment and wonder what is going on.

[@frosty6845]

P.A.N.D.E.M.O.N.I.U.M. Audeze has also been researching EQ and DSP. It's the future no matter how much audiophiles want to resist

[@ZReviews]

NEON DEMON [amzn.to/2uiPkSs] is on the amazon's

[@Nick-s-f]

I have the Open Aeon, also prefer using no damping or the black foam.

[@KeiBrightwing]

Same. I only put the black inserts in to protect the drivers against hair and dust.

[@overkillonslash]

especially after burn in. no foam is perfect for me

[@Tyetheberious]

@@overkillonslash Same, got nothing in mine, and they are perfect!

[@SamCampbell]

4:02 "Where is your earlobe right now? You don't think about it until I say it." Oh please, I'm breaking in my face with the HD800.

[@Mugway]

When he peels the glued pads 😟😫

[@KeiBrightwing]

Yeah, that was painful. I'd be pissed if I were the owner.

[@MumrikDK]

Why the hell would he even do that!?

[@HenryFanboy]

Don’t be surprised. Check out his AD500x review and you will be hurt

[@ZE0SPantera]

It wasn't anything bad. I got a channel to run here. Send cans at own risk.

[@Mugway]

ZeosPantera Although, why would they ever glue pads on to begin with...that's beyond me...

[@functionaldoc5054]

I own the closed back and spent a lot time listening to open back and prefer the closed with just the black pads. They do sound better with more power and using a balanced Periapt cable. Best closed back headphone under $1k that I have heard.

[@frosty6845]

Functional Doc I personally prefer Audeze's similarly priced offerings, but the AEONs have them beat in comfort hands down

[@porobiscuits2658]

Why are there comments from 2 weeks ago? Hmmmmmm 🤔 (Insert Patreon advert here)

[@RoarSharkBCNA]

Unlisted link provided to Patreon supporters probably.

[@litsaudio]

( as far as i know ) is posted 2 weeks ago as Unlisted but only Patreons receive the link and get their questions answered by him

[@JeffJacquesmd]

Listening to this on the ModHouse Argons. Can't express how important it is to have your entire ear, including earlobes inside the cup and pad.

[@david1235102]

I owned both the open and the closed; ended up selling the open. FWIW I don't use the damping material in either pair of headphones. My problem with the open was the upper midrange and lower treble. The low mids had just the right amount of warmth to them; just above neutral. The upper midrange and lower treble was just somewhat recessed followed by a treble peak around 9khz-10khz which made female vocals and cymbals sound... odd. Some songs sounded fantastic with them, but the way they skewed female vocals on some songs just killed them for me. I'm with Zeos in saying both are good headphones, but the closed are the ones to keep.

[@Haeveth]

I personally used the 1-notch filters for my AFO, most prefer the black foam or no filters because they are clearer and less warm but I personally found them lacking in dynamics and tonally wrong having little weight or texture, also the treble could be a tad shrill at times. The 2-notch filters are very relaxing and laid back but loss some clarity with distant vocal and upper mids. Even with the 1-notch the Aeon still need a modest EQ to sound less weird. I bought the AFO over LCD-2C and AFC. Between the AFO and LCD-2C they are comparable but the weight of the LCD is what makes me pick the AFO

[@skengasaurus]

I whole-heartedly agree with the dynamics issue. I found them neutral and as you mentioned, too bright with the filters, but then cut upper mids with the 1-notch white which only starts to make a difference with the brightness. People seem pretty polarized on this, and though I can totally understand why certain ears find them perfect, the ones who don't have the same conclusion as I do: extremely detailed, but lifeless.

[@kolvis1641]

When Zeos uploads a new video: 1. I download the wallpaper 2. I see if I'm interested in the video 3. If I'm interested in the video, I watch it

[@FriedEgg101]

I feel like I'm a cat owner vicariously through you.

[@1Schnellbachniko340]

I am interested in the Dan Clark audio aeon 2 closed back and would like to know which amplifier it needs to drive this 🎧 reasonably. Is a better mobile DAC or DAP sufficient? Or does it have to be a stationary amplifier?

[@nostro1001]

@ 1Schnellbach.....The new Dan Clark's are meant to be somewhat portable and mobile friendly (I don't think that's really 100% true). However, either a mobile dac or dap is clearly better, you just need to think what is the minimal power requirements you need. I'd suggest as a minimum something like dragonfly red. As for a dap, well again it depends on the dap. Obviously, the more power the better, so it really depends on what dap you're talking about. Cheers!

[@kevinchrist1658]

@@nostro1001 I can run the Aeon 2 off an LG V40 just fine as long as I'm not in a loud environment. Screw Apple and other companies trying to kill the headphone jack

[@speresec]

I agree the closed back do sound better. When auditioning them at the NYC CanJam I noticed they were one of the best sounding closed backs for under 1k. Also can’t you stack the dampening filters to form even more possibilities for sound?

[@KeiBrightwing]

I found the closed version to sound tinny and thin, bass being accurate and clear but lacking the OOMPH! and they were also brighter than the open ones. I liked the open ones better.

[@QuartBernstein311]

I think the biggest problem with the Aeon is how sensitive it is to getting a good seal... and glued earpads.

[@KeiBrightwing]

Yes, the seal issue is very important. Good luck getting a good seal if you wear glasses like myself. I have to hook them on top of the earcups.

[@glxblrt]

19:48 What happened to that balanced adapter you made ahwhile ago? Doesnt that accomplish basically the same thing but with less hassle and money?

[@KaizerPalpatine]

Now review the audeze lcd 2c closed backs and compare with aeon c

[@reneanthonyquiaoit3602]

Kaizer Beelzebub closed backs sound mid fi, they’re really bad. They don’t compare to the open backs at all.

[@jasonwhitehurst7576]

I have the open backs and absolutely LOVE them. Get a cable from Periapt for these and you'll be thankful you did.

[@buster7618]

Jason Whitehurst can confirm new cables do these justice.

[@anujdatar2010]

just got some opens today will have to get a new cable it seems haha

[@connerrowland2833]

Been waiting for this review. Thanks z

[@jasonwhitehurst7576]

How do they sound? 21:55. Close back preferred (of course) Open backs don't image as well. Please still watch the video, thumbs up, etc.

[@carlosdlguerra]

I must be deaf, because i was trying the eather c flow and the aeon closed on a store a couple of months ago and I couldnt tell the diference

[@eunhjzjined3795]

Finally Zeos... I've been wanting your opinion on the BLUE for years, as I have the Lolas

[@AeEfKay]

A moment of silence for Tyll who has to live with these for the rest of his life

[@jerryjazzbo2845]

Good for him. REAL headphone reviews are for audiophiles, but Z appeals to gamers. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

[@cothealiv780]

Yo just fyi, your vids did disappear from my feed for a while, but they've started showing back up. Long time viewer btw.

[@eunhjzjined3795]

That detachable Y split is exactly what I havebeen wanting on my he400i

[@Hunterssoldier]

Funny coincidence that I bought an Æon Flow C only a couple of weeks before you posted this review. Then had to get it replaced because the Carbon Fiber part was scratched when I unboxed it. Very nice otherwise, my Jot pushes it just fine even unbalanced.

[@matthewburt5302]

LCD2C v Aeon Flow Open? :) What do people prefer?

[@Dinrog]

Matthew Burt if you like enaging warm tonality, lcd2c. If you prefer flat'ish neutral then aeon. Lcd2cs are way more fun but less comfy

[@jonberg469]

LCD2C or aeon closed? Plesse help!

[@anujdatar2010]

I just bought the open today for $388us. I am already impressed with them. 2 hours later

[@mralaska]

Every time you talk about how amazing the Ether C Flow is I feel like I made the wrong decision going with the TH900.

[@mythos7112]

same lmfao the lack of mids is a huge problem for me.

[@commenter9703]

If I recall correctly these are 12 ohm. So the BasX should actually be pushing close to 50W.

[@bernamej]

Let us know if there's going to be any remarks about sound in here; or is it just going to be cable talk ?

[@ZE0SPantera]

get to around 20 minutes. When things get GOOOD

[@bernamej]

ZeosPantera Thank you MrZ !

[@ActionHank]

I've preferred Closed Back listening for a long time, but have been looking for a good reason to get some higher end Open Back cans. If they're that close, maybe I should try these in open. Such a tough choice...

[@Scoutscout1000]

i watch all your reviews at 1.5 speed and its seems like a normal pace

[@danbaxter3597]

Which do you prefer AudioQuest NightOwl or Aeon Open?

[@Budo914]

B stock of these are out on mr speakers website right now for $620, closed and open versions

[@erikpradia3165]

I need you to review the RT versions please!!!!!!

[@Miniklangwunder]

Hi Zeos, I own the AEON Flow Open and modified them at the back to get closed. For me the AFC sounds in the mids more empazised but they have a quite narrow soundstage. With my mod the AFO sound nearly like the AFC but with a great soundstage and very well pronounced mids. So maybe you could try to dampen backwards with a piece of printer paper with a glued carbon look selfadhesive foil. So the AEON Flow Open are a very good choice if it comes to modification. Modfied with the carbon like dampening and the one notch inner dampening they are the best AEON Flow for my ears. Btw. I like your videos very much. You give me inspiration. Best Mark

[@spacebarwasd9782]

Z, how to Aeon Closed compare to Alpha Primes? Thanks,

[@Aforgamon]

I ordered a pair of used AFC and new Argons to compare and see If I like either of them enough to keep. I have an Aeolus coming and I think I want something a little different in my closed back, but I do appreciate some warmth. Everything I hear about the AFC makes me think they'll be too "boring" for me, but I've always been drawn to their different look with supposedly great comfort and light weight. I can't stop looking at the ZMF closed backs though... I'll probably sell the Aeons and Argons in short order to buy some. Oof says the bank account.

[@WhenKittensATK1125]

Which did you like?

[@Masimo_Yovanni]

How does the closed back Aeon Flow sound in comparison to Audeze LCD-2C?

[@Ben-bs4od]

12 ohms but they are planar. Do they need a small amp or will they work on a cellphone?

[@Star_Sn1per]

That's a gorgeous wallpaper thank you lol

[@skengasaurus]

You can't properly resolve audio quality without the presence of an uwu waifu, it's a scientific fact.

[@agentorange8530]

I remember people were saying the HD800 sounded good wearing it backwards. That picture might have been that.

[@p2777]

These are nice...don't have the natural sibilance with older tracks like MJ...Depeche mode etc in 24bit FLAC...and you can tell from the dip around 6KHz on FR curve. I personally like this even if it may not be 100% true to recording. All other frequencies are neutral. Only prob is the soundstage. But no matter the price range there is always a sacrifice in sound for sound stage, less so on open backs.

[@DanDhaniels]

Hey Zeos, would you please recommend me a good planar magnetic alternative to the LCD-4 sound quality wise? Here's the situation: a friend of mine bought an Audeze LCD-4 back in December, and last week he had a driver failure on one side. He sent it back to Audeze so they'll repair it, as it is still in the warranty period, but I thought it was just ridiculous, to spend almost $4K in a headphone and then it "dies"... it's like, I have my HD 600 since 2009 and they're still going strong. I know it's a different technology, but still, spending $4K in a headphone the least you can expect is quality control, I think. I was thinking about upgrading to a planar magnetic as well, and I absolutely LOVED the sound of the LCD-4 when my friend agreed to let me spend some time with it, but I'm afraid of such failure happening to me, that's why I'm asking your advice on good alternatives to the LCD-4 sound wise. Thanks in advance, your videos are always great 👍👍👍👍

[@absolutsuperclean2794]

Can a portable DAP or a smartphone/laptop drive the aoen flow closed?

[@brettspicer6463]

Hey Z try a bit of kiwi music like Fat Freddy's Drop it has got some good bass. Cheers for the reviews enjoyable viewing as usual, you're a crack up.

[@aldphillip2003]

I bought the Elex, Focal's Massdrop offering, and it makes these (closed back) sound muffled and dull.

[@1RaVeN1FTW]

Hey Z what do you recommend, JBL 308p or Yamaha HS8?

[@keppes1268]

So which one would you prefer as open headphone for soundquality: the open aeons or the dt1990? Also, please make actual versions of your headphone recommandation lists, vecause your recently reviewed headphones aren't included there. PS: I really enjoy your vids since your dt770 review

[@kristoffer8740]

I would go for the dt1990 over the Aeon open.

[@realniteart]

I am fan of your videos but this was way too long and all over the place. Did not help me to decide on closed or open aeon flow at all.

[@HybridBoy0]

would a magni2 be enough to drive those?

[@davidmason8212]

I have tried it once it was amazing

[@fernandotous9567]

Ursine vs pariapt cables for feel and looks? Love myself some sexy cables

[@vrfpsffa997]

help what do I do form factor isn't a factor Aeon Flow O/C Focal Elex (MD) Kaiser 10 (MD)

[@adrianlim6218]

8:41 Audio46 review of the Aeon had it backwards..........

[@TheFijianGuy]

Do you get a noise floor or background noise with your emotiva basx amp?

[@Bryan-th6rc]

TheFijianGuy yes

[@TheFijianGuy]

Bryan alright cool so it is a normal thing.

[@Bryan-th6rc]

TheFijianGuy yes, to be honest it's not a fantastic headphone amp

[@TheFijianGuy]

Bryan well I'll disagree with that part. For what you pay and having power with the jumpers installed to power almost any headphone it's a steal at its current price. But yes that noise floor is annoying

[@farhanalhadeethi8184]

TheFijianGuy you only hear the noise floor on sensitive headphones. They aren't meant to be used with them

[@MultiRecordMusicInc]

These or the Sennheiser HD660S?

[@BKD1966]

I have both AEONS. Get the HD660S.

[@Colecjc360]

@@BKD1966 I have 660S but was thinking about getting Closed AEONS. You don't think the AEONS are more enjoyable? I am wanting closed to isolate sound better.

[@st0rm4g3dd0n]

No earlobe issues here with HD660s XD

[@uangchen5981]

hey zeo, i really love your videos. can you review the phantom speakers

[@joelopez7459]

I was wondering between open n closed, though i'm a long ways from buying these

[@adeelzero1445]

LCD-X or Ether C flow?

[@Dinrog]

AdeelZero X but the ether c is close. Still handicapped by closed design to. They both sorta aim at the same sound. The ether is a bit more nuetral and flat and sounds less wide. The X still has a chunk of that audeze sound which makes it lots fun as well to listen to :) also comes down to how sensitive you are to comfort, which is alot better on the ether.

[@adeelzero1445]

Darth's Lounge thanks. I actually own the LCD-X. Just wanted to hear the differences between the two. The updated Audeze with their new headband definitely feels much better. Comfort is not a problem anymore.

[@Dinrog]

AdeelZero yea same here, hadnt had an issue since i got the new headband. Loving my X big time and no visit to the tempting depths of a fully equiped hifistore made me feel like cheating on it (yet) :D

[@keiths5931]

Thought they sounded dull. My Eikons were all over them. Perhaps prefered vocals for not being as upfront and more fluid, but that was more of a case of the Eikons sounding more real and the Aeons like a nice reproduction. Everything else the Eikons slapped the shit out of em. I was powering them out of a IFI Nano BL. that might have been an issue. They are power hungry. My Crack wouldnt power them at all...

[@skengasaurus]

Not a power issue, in my opinion. Drove them with a Neve RNHP and same thing: lifeless. Detailed as all hell, but lacking in dynamics enough to warrant a return..

[@crunchied8]

how are they on tubes zeos

[@WarriorKidd06]

Would the CMA 400i still be powerful enough to run these?

[@frosty6845]

WarriorKidd06 yes it should

[@humanbass]

Easily.

[@iangc12345678]

I have the 400i and its a good pairing

[@lorddarphyve]

Amazon should sponsor you considering you link everything to them.

[@ZReviews]

Well I do use affiliate links so if you buy something through them I can get a percentage. But it has to be right after you click.

[@davidmason8212]

Sk the aeons better than ethers ???

[@lagonda808]

How long is you break in for the normal headphones? Thanks

[@ZReviews]

20 hours I start to really listen. Same with speakers.

[@thestig301]

Hey Z can you review the New Sony MDR 1AM2.

[@seigiknight7959]

Aeon Flow or Focal Elear ?

[@comcam555]

I can't get to the ursine.audio site ):

[@TarekMidani]

Maybe it's because KZbin's algorithm prefers newly uploaded videos in its home page. So if you upload it ahead of time for patreon, no matter how good your video, it won't hit the "hot" category

[@ZReviews]

Really. Is that a thing? Unlisted can't count for that. That would kill my whole system

[@PiousSlayer]

Possibly dumb question, what program do you use for your music?

[@PSTAREVE]

Tabula Rasa foobar2000, he made a video on it before.

[@murmuratingmemories]

Yes, I'm gonna ask everyone's favorite question, how do they compare? In my defense, when you reviewed the EL-8C, you said that the Aeons are gonna have a hard time beating them. Well, do they? I'm actually considering the Audezes for my xmas bonus.

[@ZReviews]

Oooo. These for comfort but I might still give the 8C for sound. More energy.

[@pauladrian7999]

for pretty details you should listen to some songs from Roger Waters album "pros and cons of hitchhiking" if you never listened to that

[@jerrymako8100]

best wallpaper z had

[@venomdedpol1179]

Argons or Aeon Closed?

[@silversurfer8283]

Can I buy one of your headsets as non member

[@colt2266]

How does the sound stage and imaging compare for the audeze lcd 2c and the aeon open?

[@drakedoggy103]

don't buy lcds if you want big soundstage ..Hifiman Ananda or Edition X for soundstage/ Imaging .. especially width

[@geraldartun5050]

You wouldn't believe how many people I give my HD 800S to and they put them on backwards. I die a little each time but it's to the point now where I'm surprised when someone puts them on correctly.

[@failfatty]

IVE BEEN WAITING SO LONG FOR THIS SHIT

[@bcde]

thanks mr zeon . i waited for this review for an eon

[@bcde]

just watched it. i am disappoint. i think you lost the magic. or maybe it is me that has changed ? good luck with your channel .

[@stephenbarry8973]

You ramble on get to the point ,edit your vids .

[@heavyharmonies]

OCD terminology nazi comment: It's "damping" not "dampening"... unless you're pouring water on them. :)

[@Lemonpinesol]

While damping is definitely more formal, i'm pretty sure both terms have similar origins.

[@Lemonpinesol]

You'd be hard pressed to find any literature backing that up though.

[@ZeroHourEs]

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dampen

[@farsware]

Please make rewiev of ESS 422h

[@christosgogidis8635]

“Those sound like your ears are made of your ears, and here’s the fkn truth” such Z *kisses fingertips

[@marekkouril7134]

Ether C Flow vs LCD-X?

[@buster7618]

Marek Kouril can't really go wrong. Lcdx are heavy asf, but some will say the sound is better than the either c flow and the weight is worth it.

[@frosty6845]

LCD-X for sure

[@overkillonslash]

one is closed one is open

[@phil5743]

I demoed the Ether Cs and LCD-XC and went for the Ethers - far more detailed and spacious to my ears, but the LCD-XC has a thicker sound if that’s your thing. I could never put up with the weight of the LCDs however and the Ether Cs have unrivalled comfort.

[@venomdedpol1179]

"Come look in my hole everybody" - Zeos 2018

[@Sasoridellasabbia]

Lcd 2 closed! Please.

[@callipygouspenguin]

That's wierd with the amp thing. I drive my Aeons on a Schiit Vali2 no problem.

[@Nick-s-f]

Yea that is strange, my Fulla 2 gets them loud at 12 o' clock.

[@buster7618]

Strange, I ran mine on a fostex hpa4bl and I couldn't get them loud.

[@overkillonslash]

Nick-s-f i tried the opens on fulla 2 , on max volume there is abit of audible distortion. But most of the time I dont listen to that high so not a problem

[@buster7618]

James Arthur I had distortion on my micca 2 also

[@angelstudiosmggsg3196]

You didn't confuse me you did not confuse me bro explain it on my level and many people live in and many people including myself apley's appreciates the level in the love that you give this job because I wish I could do it but I don't have the money or the resources to do it but but that's why I follow you broke because you keep it real man love you bro keep it up

[@Nelquars]

Test Sony CAS-1 PLZ!!!!!! Its hybrid speaker/headphone AMP

[@tx2jbh81]

DUDE!!! What’s your cat’s name?!

[@fishylogic222]

Last night I had a nightmare where you gave the headphones I use a bad review.

[@gtanibal]

sonarworks are any worse than schiit loki?

[@aldphillip2003]

I bought the closed back. It's nice. It drowns out my kids' autistic fits and it's just me and my music.

[@666chege]

Best review ever.