ZACHARY LEVI: Loving the Unlovable, Making Room for Peace, Shazam! Sequel, and Sandwich Artistry

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Zachary Levi (Shazam!, Chuck) joins us once again to give Amell a run for his money for Inside of You appearances.
Zach never disappoints with getting deep and this week he gives a healthy (much needed) dose of self love. From the power of observing generosity, to collective manifestation, to the celestial ‘chicken and egg’ - we get into a lot this week.
The meat of it revolves around self love and acceptance but Zach also talks about his mental health journey through the decade after Chuck ended and what his thoughts are around the Shazam! Sequel.
Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro
5:43 - Zach Levi
8:00 - Sandwich artist
14:35 - Mental health
18:02 - Selfless manifestation
22:00 - Spirituality
28:18 - Celestial chicken and egg
30:47 - Practicing self love
34:15 - Success and love
37:30 - Generosity and gratitude
42:55 - Working from the inside out
44:25 - Lowest point
46:20 - Reconciling familial loss
52:00 - Boundaries
55:00 - The root of it all
1:01:00 - Tear jerker
1:03:07 - Shazam sequel
1:06:00 - Last of Us
1:07:30 - Outro
1:11:42 - Love these folks
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ZACHARY LEVI: Loving the Unlovable, Making Room for Peace, Shazam! Sequel, and Sandwich Artistry #insideofyou #x

[@jonvaters7511]

A few years ago, we went to a Comic Expo and Zachary was staying at the same hotel as my wife and I. We ran into him and I mentioned how much we enjoyed his panel earlier that day. We ended up having a genuine 25 minute conversation about anything and everything and it was the absolute highlight of the trip. Such a wonderful person.

[@soarwiththesky244]

Zach seems like such a down to earth guy

[@Brook11223]

He will always be Chuck Bartowski for me. That show was just amazing and the whole Nerd herd aspect was the best part. His chemistry with Yvonne Strahovski worked so well and the banter he has with Adam Baldwin's John Casey is just hilarious.

[@TMSokoya]

I'm slowly making my way through the series. Not only does this guy refuse to age, but he was clearly born to play a superhero.

[@gamesetlive]

I can't wait to start my 11th annual watch-through of Chuck this year! As you can imagine it's my favorite show (by far! 😅)

[@tedcowart6524]

Chuck was my favorite show.

[@Brook11223]

@@gamesetlive there is a Die Hard like spoof with Reginald Vel Johnson reprising his Al Powell role.

[@watertribeh2o837]

Did he mention anything about the chuck movie in this pod? Didn’t watch it yet

[@merbearlorelei]

Zack Levi is the definition of a class act. Whatever show/movie/musical he blesses his presence in (or stars in), he brings grace, charisma, and he has a hell of a comedic sense of timing! I love him. I can't wait to watch this. He's so freaking talented. Knowing how he grew up makes him even more amazing! Read his book

[@mohammadbashammakh]

Zachary & Michael are two of the nicest people, always a treat to see them together 😊

[@AmbientMess]

Seeing Shazam and Lex Luthor together is always a treat! ;)

[@mohammadbashammakh]

@@AmbientMess true

[@The_Red_Brain]

I always love when these two get together on the podcast! This feels like the perfect blend of friends talking and therapy.

[@sueshortall1617]

I was at the con where we all followed Zachary to this small Subway, and completely freaked out the people working there. It was a great weekend, Zack and Adam were really fun and connected with the audience. It was my daughter's first con and she absolutely loved it.

[@sophialeemirandaakaprincess]

Ur a legend in my book

[@theresemarkham9387]

This episode was powerful beyond words. Zac brought up so many great points. The one that stood out was recognizing the humanity in others. Also the power of forgiveness and realizing that we can’t control others. This episode will definitely stay with me.

[@theresemarkham9387]

I am enjoying listening to this episode. Zac always opens up about anything going on in his life. It was definitely sad news to hear about his dad. Y’all definitely went deep .

[@V1ct0r10u5]

I truly adore and appreciate Zachary for being such an example of light and humility. I will watch anything he pops up in! I can't wait til his next appearance! Thank you Michael for providing a space for magic like this to happen, you're the best brother! ✊🏽

[@JEBossTon92]

I always feel like Zac comes on the podcast at just the perfect times in my life. Always keeps it real and has some really good advice and points-of-view on the world and mental health especially. Great episode everyone!!

[@micheleunger3545]

I can say enough how much I LOVE listening to Michael and Zach talk. Every time, I laugh and cry and get a reminder about loving myself and every day is a day to learn and a chance to do better.

[@WendyHodges-he3cm]

Thank you so much Mr Rosenberg for having Zachary Levi on your podcast. I only knew of you through Smallville and Zachary Levi though Chuck only recently. I'm in Australia and so disappointed I can't get Zachary's audible book here. I can so relate to this podcast as I believe so many others. I need to love and forgive myself too.I have ordered his book so not sure how long it will take. Please convey this the next time he is on your show. Hopefully Zachary will visit Australia. Thanks

[@HulaBeulah]

Firstly, condolences to Zac and his family on losing his dad a few days ago. I'm thinking of them at this time. I think that "the Killer" needs to forgive themselves for the things that they did. If they feel guilt, regret and tries to make amends, it shows that they have grown as a person and is sorry. Maybe you don't have to love yourself but if you like yourself, that's still cool. 😎 Don't listen to those who say you should always clear the air because that shit hasn't happened to them. When your mum dies, you might feel weirded out for a while but when it happened to me and a lot of my friends, we were okay and you will be okay. You have a lot of people out here to support and listen to you, when that time comes and if you need us. Oh and the reason you don't get from therapists what you got from Zac is because Zac is a friend coming from a place of love and a therapist just wants you to keep coming back because if you don't, they don't get to pay their bills, as horrible as it sounds. 😕 I'm looking forward to Shazam and can't wait for 🍀😊

[@toriromero1847]

I got the pleasure to meet Zachary Levi yesterday at Megacon. WHAT A JOY he is. I have been a fan of his since Chuck and have loved following his journey. I had started watching this video a couple of months ago and realized I hadn't finished it, so I just did and man, oh man. I feel like I just went to church! I love his transparency, vulnerability and genuine humanity. Such a good person. Amazing perspective on life. I'm truly inspired by him! Now I just gotta order that book that's been sitting in my Amazon cart!! Michael, please keep inviting Zachary Levi back! He is one of my favorite guests. And Michael, please keep doing what you're doing, we love you! The world needs more Zachary Levis and Michael Rosenbaums

[@mparantha]

Always enjoy listening to Michael and Zack chatting about stuff

[@noahgraeme]

Zachary Levi speaks from the heart and doesn't waiver. He's not PC (which is great) and says how he feels in a way that's never offensive. Always liked him 👍🏻

[@iamjarrettdean9358]

Michael, I love ya bro. I have known of you since Smallville but have loved getting to know you via Inside of You. We're the same age, been thru so much of the same childhood trauma, even grew up in a small Indiana town. Having said all that, you're holding onto all the wrong stuff my brother. The sooner you focus just on you, the sooner you will find peace. Zac did an amazing job of explaining this. Good job guys

[@iamjarrettdean9358]

Zac spittin' such deep, amazing, loving facts that so many of us either miss out on or want for ourselves and others. Great job Gents 👏

[@renaeneil1757]

I have been patiently waiting for this years INSIDE OF YOU with Zac Levi. Always a pleasure to listen to his stories.

[@mscandylevar2444]

I always love when Zachary comes on you learn so much about him. I saw a panel of him at FanX in Salt Lake,it was one of the best panels I have been to over the years going to FanX. You both have amazing friendship love your guys sense of humor. Another awesome episode you Rock Michael!!!!

[@michelleking8302]

Ah great timing to get him on! Excited we're getting a Shazam sequel

[@dekkane3962]

Theres so much passion in this episode I love it, never knew Zac Levi was the kind of guy

[@evirgil84]

Love Zachary Levi so much! This was so inspiring. Favorite part was when he was talking about, even if it was a murderer, seeing them as a human & thus being able to give them grace. That is absolutely what Jesus does & what we should do as Christians! My biggest prayer is for God to use me to be a conduit of His love to those around me, so really amazing hearing Zach say that!

[@kelliharrington2490]

Thank you guys for letting us in on your moving convo. I, too, felt God speaking through Zac to you. This was a powerful episode. Thanks again for letting US be Inside YOU whilst you all were inside each other.

[@UTxTheArchangel]

Fitting that Zachary name drops Ali Hillis. She's the voice of one of the most beloved video game characters, Liara, in Mass Effect. Which the second game stars Zachary's Chuck co-star, Yvonne Strahovski, whom plays Miranda in Mass Effect 2 and 3.

[@Peratohtori]

This was hands down one of my favorite podcast episodes I've listened to in a long time, not just when it comes to Inside of You but all podcasts in general Faith, forgiveness, love and loss can be very heavy topics but I'm glad you aren't afraid to talk about them honestly. Every time Michael and Zach talk I know it's going to be a great conversation

[@LiLisa24]

Can’t wait to listen/watch this one!! Love when you have Zachary Levi on the podcast! Thank you Michael ❤ Happy Tuesday 💙

[@brittniscott956]

I grew up with Yanni in my house. My dad owned his albums and the live at the Acropolis VHS. lololol

[@leregarddeMasarang]

Like SPINOZA said : « Don’t mock, do not lament, do not hate, but understand. » Zachary Levi you’re a spot on person ! ❤

[@jamesosborne3747]

just the first 20 min of this was one of the best pod episodes ive heard! I gained a tremendous amount of respect and endearment for these guys

[@lukeevans9505]

Wow... Shazam counselling Lex Luthor about being a murderer and how he can love himself...

[@carlbrose8452]

Another fantastic episode!! I could listen to Zac & Michael talk all day! Both are awesome men with hearts of gold. I don’t know how they do it, but their messages always seem to be meant for me.😂 And, yes, I am excited for Shazam Fury of the gods to release March 17!!

[@karenbennett7085]

Just bought Zachary’s book! I loved this episode so much! Thanks Michael & Rob for all the Sun Spin gifts! I love them!

[@Brodizzle83]

Wow...I've honestly never seen Shazam or Chuck, but I need to! This guy is the real deal,and holy shit he's so deep! He really made me think and feel...such a great episode! Keep 'em coming brother!

[@HulaBeulah]

Shazam is good. It also has Jerry from The Walking Dead in it. Go take a look!

[@rapiddu6482]

Watch Chuck you will find the same thing in the series. That series is literally gold standard in expression acting. It's philosophically so well done it's insane. Yet to find any series to touch at that level.

[@mrsdirt]

Thank you Michael and Zachary. Big shares of your hearts 💕 Big Hugs to you and everyone! #teamInsideOfYou

[@xelawash]

Michael…you absolutely ROCKED!!! as Lex Luthor in Smallville! It’s no secret..your rendition/interpretation of Lex is, hands down, the most impressive of all time.

[@BarriePoole]

Howdy Michael! The Kenny G song you were probably thinking of is Songbird. probably his most well known song... Back in the 80s usually late in the evening on an easy listening radio station, that one was always on the radio, probably around 1986... I would hear that song on the radio around that time after Hockey Games on the way home... Cheers...

[@ElysiaFields19]

I always love listening to how you and Zachary interact. I often find that I may have heard one or a number of people express an idea but it only becomes a light bulb moment for me when someone uses words or an analogy that hits me more personally. Suddenly it's as if lightning strikes and I'm filled with new awareness. The other scenario for me, is I find I simply wasn't ready to hear it before and now, after working on myself and have focused on my spiritual journey with greater intent, that thought/idea becomes an epiphany. In many instances it may also be something I already know but badly need a reminder because I am human and I have great days filled with light and greater awareness, then suddenly I have bad days where it is all too much and I have no focus, I'm all out of love for myself and energy. It's a process. It's training the mind and I have learned or come to accept a great deal but the road continues to have it's very rough spots and sometimes it seems more like a sink hole! I started listening to Inside of You because of remembering you from Smallville. I kept coming back because of your journey and the answers you seek from each person you interview. I've learned a lot about myself through what your guests share of their life experiences. Thank you! 💖

[@Saarebas_]

I absolutely LOVE Zachary. The man's classy and so loving. How can you not love him? Rosie, please, transmit my love to him. Please, let him know he's not standing alone. I'm not a religious man, nor really a believer, but, I've recently been orphaned. I sincerely pray with all my heart that he gets through this. I wouldn't wish that pain upon anyone.

[@stephaniepuente8562]

Such a great episode! Every time Zach comes on, he just shares so much deep and powerful stuff. Like I learn so much from the conversations they have together. So Goood!!

[@lindamawdsley6130]

This was a deeply moving and inspiring episode and I hope people will take from it what they individually need in order to improve and heal their lives 💖

[@mrwaynela2404]

I cried SO HARD during all this..a much needed cry. I thank u both so very much for your time and messages. Change has to happen..change with a pinch of love. Thanks again u guys

[@NegroNerd410]

By far my favorite interview that I've watched here so far! Thanks for the knowledge and sharing you guys experiences. Its genuine and it shows!

[@Shari225]

The best podcast I've heard from you, Michael. And you have some very excellent podcasts! Zach's words really hit home.

[@kristadavis9749]

This episode was AMAZING! The vulnerability and message was so touching!

[@CDemps]

This spoke to everything going on lately in my life and was a huge comfort to listen to. Thank you both.

[@katieannburke]

So much of what you two spoke about today spoke to me on a fundamental level. Thank you for creating this environment for people to share important and fascinating pieces of themselves. It was therapeutic for me as I had very similar elements to deal with in my life and it actually helps to hear this from others.

[@bruceatwood1498]

Such a powerful conversation that I really needed to hear. I downloaded the book can’t wait to hear it. Thanks so much.

[@ladyneat]

This was one of the best episodes. I truly appreciate the deep topics and conversations you have and what I am able to take away.

[@BlackMetalVikingCustoms]

I have been a huge fan of Zach ever since the first episode of Chuck. In recent years, every time I hear him speak, I fall deeper in love with him as a person.

[@johnnyknoxxxville]

Honestly I haven’t listened to his other podcasts but thank you this has helped a lot for me mentally I have been in a dark low part of my life that I’m not sure what to do from here or how to move on from past problems this has guided me I will be getting your book soon too Zach Levi

[@patriciaparkes4832]

Wonderful podcast. Zach really is a very interesting man. Thank you. Keep up the good work 👏

[@patriciaparkes4832]

@@ZacharyLevi-sh7je British Columbia

[@penguinvsminja]

I always enjoy listening to him. Thank you!

[@warribe]

Huuuge fan of those guys. I obviously dont know him personally but i have a feeling Zachary is one the nicest guys ever. Specially in Hollywood

[@williamjr92]

another amazing episode with Zachary Levi! Love that this isn't celebrity bullshit, this is real genuine and deep stuff. Thank you!

[@Supaboy000]

This is a very fulfilling interview. Like I almost didn't know I needed it

[@Brook11223]

Linda Hamilton Sara Connor playing Chuck and Ellie's mom so awesome. The with Nikolai Volkoff portrayed by Timothy Dalton was another great villain.

[@DaniellaKhamppos]

OMG! I cried a lot, it was an episode directed at me in many ways, it was worth several therapy sessions. I recently finished watching Chuck and that's why I decided to watch the podcast and I loved it and I'm going to look for the previous ones and watch it, because Zach is amazing and he said a lot of things that I've already thought and lived and resolved internally and understood some things that were stuck in my brain. I don't know if the translation from Portuguese into English will convey the intensity of emotions, but it was heavy and light at the same time, I carry other people's baggage and everything affects me. I'm a sponge for heavy and alien things, I isolate myself, mistreat me, depress me, I wanted to be empathetic with good things too, to have mental health. Everything affects me and the psychosomatic consequences are physically devastating. There was a time when I took so much medication to get people around me that I felt like I had half a brain and was going dumb. Thank you both for the heartfelt conversation I needed to hear! A hug from heart to heart, full of good energies!🥰🥰

[@chrismarrero5798]

Wow! Such a powerful show! Really love when Zachary Levi is on the podcast! Definitely need to get his book.

[@magdalena1347]

Wow, great episode! Absolutely loved listening to Zachary's wisdom.

[@Scribbler1382]

Radical Love is available in Canada in print, ebook, audio, etc. In English. Just a data point.

[@DC-im8kj]

great interview and discussion, not sure how many people are ready to see the world like this and to work on themself to change the world but thank you Zac for sharing such private information and thoughts with us❤️

[@rebeccaloboborges7015]

This podcast was so great that I was actually on a break from studying (was only gonna watch it 20 minutes) but you guys started talking about religion and spirituality so randomly that I was so caught in and kept going

[@benjaminfieldsfarmer5405]

Another great show. I know it's said alot but this is my weekly therapy thank you for doing this. With that being said.....anybody else wanna know what Zachary was gonna say about the comets?

[@frandefleurs5116]

Bloody brilliant, as always. Thank you 💞

[@grandmasfavorite1104]

This is why I like this podcast. genuine conversations

[@siohmy]

Whilst I am not a religious person, Zach’s passion and sense talking about what is important applies to all. Wonderfully revealing interview.

[@Brook11223]

The slew of guest stars Chuck had was again amazing from Carl Lumbly to Michael Clarke Duncan to Matthew Bomer to Chevy Chase to Scott Bakula to Linda Hamilton to Dolph Lundgren who says the iconic Drago lines wad hilarious as well as Reginald Vel Johnson reprising his Al Powell role from Die Hard who is Big Mikes Cousin making sure he was safe due to the attack on Buy More lol.

[@gracer5923]

Thank you so much...very helpful...timely for me.

[@raymondyung4523]

Another great episode. Thanks Rosie!!!

[@emikat17]

You guys are so awesome!

[@ShaneBauer7877]

Great Episode Loved it for my heart

[@lear60man]

Hey Michael! I sat behind you on your flight this day out of BUR. I wasnt sure until I just saw this shirt. After flying Gulfstreams for decades, I just kinda laughed internally and thought 'That would be kinda awkward if it wasnt him, so just sit down and put your earpods in.' Great content, its fun to watch while on the road.

[@Your-BestNightmare]

Awesome! Going through a Chuck binge as we speak (@S3E8). Hope Zach get's to reprise his role as Charles Carmichael. Dude is cool as f

[@Cafetero_]

Hope we get to see one more adventure out of that cast

[@TMSokoya]

You've been on fire with the guests, Michael! Keep them coming!

[@TJtheKnight]

I gotta be honest. I'm not big on podcasts but this is one I truly enjoy. I listen to it both on youtube and spotify. You get to find out more about the actors and the struggles they went through. It's an amazing podcast

[@michaelp9061]

I connected with this talk so much. I like the fact you and Zach come together. I really also liked his football movie episode.

[@atatur123]

Damn, Zach makes me tear up everytime he's on this podcast

[@smdias65]

"No, that's MASH" made me laugh! How on Earth did I miss the last Stage-It show? Ugh. If it's not on my calendar... Love me some Zachary Levi. The first Shazam movie was great; I need to check out the sequel.

[@ace360]

Yes 💙🎉 Favorite part of Tuesday

[@lanaw6517]

OMG! This episode was so powerful it made me cry!

[@TheCaptainSlappy]

Hot Diggity...it's Zachary Shazam! Glad to see he's doing good.

[@adriennequalls2924]

I love the podcast, but not gonna lie...the Zachary Levi episodes are always my favorites! ❤️

[@sycamorematt]

Love Zach, his spirit, his energy and his message. What's interesting is I don't know if I've seen someone that speaks so energetically about God who swears and blashphemes as much as he does. I would love to talk to him about his stance on language and how he reconciles that because he obviously spends a TREMENDOUS amount of emotional and spiritual capital chasing after God as hard and fast as he can.

[@Thurrak]

Keep up the good work Michael! I love your podcasts and I hope you get to talk to many more interesting people because I'll never get to hah

[@maybeme8]

Um I'm in Australia and I got the book when it first come out. Also, another great interview. I love these kinds of conversations.

[@38mnt]

I would always watch a weekly or monthy "Chat with Michael and Zac." I love these two togehter

[@user-rl3wq8jy6o]

Zack Levy is one of my favorite guests on this podcast. Thanks!

[@jayman36553]

It would be great if you would create playlists for each guest with multiple appearances. That would make it easier to find all of the other Zachary Levi episodes. Thanks for the great conversations!

[@HulaBeulah]

Just write "Zachary Levi Inside of you" in the search bar on KZbin and it will all come up.

[@IguanaMom]

The first one or two aren't on KZbin but you can get them on Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts. They are all great.

[@cthymnn2010]

Loving yourself could be mixed up with not understanding the difference between that and narcissism. Could being at peace with yourself or accepting yourself be an alternative way of looking at it?

[@Dohsoda]

Powerful episode. I need to read his book.

[@davidhooie4692]

Michael - You're thinking of Silhouette by Kenny G. LOL

[@Brook11223]

I have seen all the fast and furious films and it's all about family lol. The whole puzzling look Helen Mirren's Hespera gives was a nice meta joke as she played Deckard, Owen and Vanessa Kirbys character's mom in the franchise and it's Spinoff Hobbs & Shaw.

[@leregarddeMasarang]

Powerful intervention of Zach ! 👏

[@abfilmsstudios]

I am praying for both you and Zachary. Bless you both. 18:05 a powerful moment. So good to hear you two talking about this.

[@chazfatur1929]

I loved working "CHUCK" with Zach! Totally cool dude! had a blast...

[@injusticeExpert7]

Great podcast always love zac as a guest

[@rebeccaloboborges7015]

That was definitely therapy for me!

[@crookedchicken]

One of the best guests!

[@leeglenn5262]

Awesome interview ❤ humans are obsessed and convinced with a beginning and an end.... What if there isn't!!