Billy Corgan | Smashing Pumpkins, ATUM, Artificial Intelligence

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[@BigBoss1292]

Billy consistently gives the most interesting and engaging interviews

[@johnwilson6202]

except his joe rogan one sucked lol, like biggest platform and it wasn't good, prob because joe didn't do his research

[@jademonolith]

@@johnwilson6202 nah, I thought it was fine. It did clue in a LOT people how much of an interesting talker Corgan is.

[@walterreynoldsmusic]

This is why intelligent people like Billy Corgan are not the mainstream anymore, major label puppets are told what to sing, what to say, what to wear, don’t write, don’t play, not allowed to have an opinion on real things that matter. Long live Billy Corgan.

[@bloodaonadeline8346]

they were told to do that in the 90s too. Dont get it twisted the smashing pumpkins were as mainstream as mainstream gets in the 90s. Everyone listened to them.

[@meveevem1001]

Billy Corgan is amazing ~ incredibly intelligent - fascinating

[@rndmmoments3573]

Billy is a legend! Glad he’s being recognized for it. The band should be in the hall of fame by now.

[@_permanence]

Hall of fame is completely irrelevant

[@mightandlightvfx7157]

They're in the hall of fame of mu heart❤ Damn i'm cheesy...

[@brandonedge]

Along with many others. But yes. RRHOF is and has been annoying for years and SP absolutely should be in. 30 million + sales alone regardless of the fact their records 1991-2000 are classics imo.

[@ciaraskeleton]

Im currently deep in a Smashing Pumpkins rabbit hole. I loved them as a teenager and now im reliving and researching the band, music, history. This dude is responsible for some of my favourite music, and influenced and worked w some of my fav artists. This is so cool and suchhhhh good timing. Hes right about the depth of an artist too. Art that lasts comes from a genuine place, not from a 'lets pander and do anything for a dime'. Seeing different sides to an artist, looking through archives, old candid pics, random interations and colaborations. Different artistic projects even. I think all of that plus true love of art and creation is what makes a great long lasting artist. I like how he explains things bc i think like that. Im autistic and the sensitivity, pattern recognition, thinking in colours are all things that i experience when i create art and live life. Especially in art though. Music is a language of patterns and colour, its communication, its needs no words. It reaches everyone! ❤

[@jeffmurray6219]

I was listening to his interview with Zane Low earlier and felt very grateful that he and the band are still making great original music that I can look forward to.

[@ciaraskeleton]

@@jeffmurray6219 Yeah! He tends to make timeless music, so I'm excited for what's to come. I think the current albums are great and that they're going to age even better. Always love an artist who isn't afraid to be an artist

[@sgt.pepper575]

Great comment, same for me

[@mtns340]

You should check out Steven Wilson if you haven't already, especially the album 'Hand Cannot Erase'. I was a big SP fan as a teen as well, and I feel like it's a good sort of adult musical equivalent, if that makes sense.

[@brandonedge]

Check out SP's demo of "Identify" if you haven't. Random I know but it's so good

[@ALTERNATIVEMIXTAPES]

I've never seen a boring interview from Corgan. He is very interesting to listen to.

[@reputablehype]

Billy singing is like trying to get into beer as a teen, at first it's kind of rough but eventually you start to enjoy it and get into the nuances of it. I actually think it also inspires people to just try singing no matter what their voice sounds like, which is kind of what Kurt did for people playing guitar. Same with Basquiat's paintings, they unlock a freedom in people by colouring outside of the lines. Our personal imperfections is the true beauty of life.

[@gordoncockfield]

Then it goes flat and people stub cigarette butts in it

[@brandonedge]

Bob Dylan also among others. I personally think their voices are perfect. To each their own

[@MichaelSevilla97]

​@@brandonedgehow? dylan's singing voice is equivalent to fingernails on a chalkboard truly awful ✌️

[@mabusestestament]

@@MichaelSevilla97 I don’t think anybody said that.

[@mikal]

As to Billy's singing voice - In the long run, people don't listen to voices because they do something according to expected protocol. They listen to voices because they're UNIQUE.

[@SirRorschachJack]

Unique or provoke emotion/thought.

[@greenmatrix30seven]

His voice is definitely unique. Iconic even.

[@mercurymachines4311]

This was a fantastic interview. I've seen 100's of interviews with Billy over the years and I can tell that he was genuinely happy to be there and really liked having a great conversation with you guys. Great job. ATUM is another Masterpiece from The Mighty SP, go buy it 👊🏻

[@NightMedicine]

Agreed. Probably the best Billy interview. Maybe second to the Lars Ulrich interview!

[@uubish]

Billy is one of my favorite human beings! I was lucky enough to see Smashing Pumpkins in when I was in 6th grade back in Austin. Maybe 2009? I was front row and Billy smiled at me. The whole band is a joy to see in front of you…One of the best concerts I’ve ever experienced.

[@milkcarton6654]

Honestly i dont know if it's because it was the 90s and there were many types of voices but i didnt really realise Corgan's voice was unusual until people pointed it out to me years after i'd first got into the band. It turns out i had a few favorite bands at the time whose singers also had unusual voice, be they Robert Smith in the Cure or Brian Molko in Placebo. I think having a unique voice is a strength, not a weakness.

[@trevorus]

SP was my favorite band as a teen, and still one of the top. The interesting voice was something that really made the music stand out. It's one of the many reasons I like bands like Thank You Scientist, and meWithoutYou.

[@wesstroble4041]

Happy Billy makes me happy. His energy is contagious. When he’s feeling cantankerous he drains me. When he’s smiling I feel good. He’s a special kind of human. I appreciate his vision and ability to keep his line.

[@NightMedicine]

I’m impressed that this dude was able to bring out the best in Billy. Super fun, positive interview! Sometimes Billy tends to go negative and bitchy so this was great! Kudos to the interviewer!

[@youreallygotmenow4855]

I think that's kind of an inner power that all truly great artists have, whether they are conscious of it or not. Great artists are energy conduits: they know how to instill emotions in those who listen to them, and not just with their art. Maybe I'm overanalyzing your comment and you simply reacted to his general mood, but I genuinely think this.

[@Negative.mrb1]

He’s so wrong we only come out at night was always special. I remember being 14 hearing that cd on repeat it was so deep and wide. 28 amazing songs no repetition. It was our white album. I’ve partied to Mellon collie, I’ve jammed to it. I’ve cried to it. I’ve grown up with it over years ,It is my hands down favorite album of all time!!! Thank you 🙏

[@NightMedicine]

This has always been one of my favorites. I’m sooo happy it’s become popular so I can share it with people. They even played it live in Austin Texas when I saw them. If you had told me 10 years ago they would play it live I would think you were crazy. 😂

[@brandonedge]

That song and Silverfuck were the highlights of the Austin show for me in 2022. What I always loved about SP was the insane diversity of the songs. No other band I can think of besides maybe the Beatles would put XYU and Tales of a Scorched Earth next to 33 and Lily on the same disc. The White Album comparison is accurate.

[@user-eu2xd4tw4v]

I am trying to give Atum a chance, but am finding Billy's interviews 10 times better always. Long live Billy Corgan!

[@eneswk]

I love a good Uncle Billy interview 🖤

[@SourceBoniface]

Awesome interview with Mr Corgan! I love when he starts telling stories about all the times people told him something wouldn't work and he did it anyway. Great stuff!

[@AbsintheReverie]

I really regret not seeing them in Australia the other week but I was working around the corner so managed to get a peak of a song or two. They sounded incredible and it was a bit sad that the crowd wasn't very big. I hope they continue touring so I get a chance to see them one day.

[@NightMedicine]

Wow really? I saw them in Austin Texas recently and it was a MASSIVE stadium full of people. Awesome crowd too! The pumpkins destroyed.

[@Zaccyonline]

Thank you Billy for being unconditionally authentic. Truly inspired by this interview.

[@MySoCalledFuckedUpBrother]

So awesome. You brought the best out of him, great interview ❤

[@phoenixkirchoff5268]

Billy's intelligence just shines through so brightly in this interview. I love his introspection about himself and Pumpkins as what they were then and what they are now. Super super engaging in this amd very human. He ranges from down-to-earth to eccentric crazy genius. I can see how he would be hard for others to handle and also his struggles as a genius in a world filled with so many that try to drag genius into the gutter.

[@Hulkamaniac418]

“I see the Crocs and the vaping and I don’t know what the hell is going on” 😂

[@venessalee2426]

My favorite quote! I feel him!

[@patrickjohnson1267]

My God, finally someone who asks great, in-depth questions about the NEW music!

[@mercurymachines4311]

Exactly. It really was a fantastic conversation.

[@NightMedicine]

I know right! This was a FANTASTIC and positive interview!

[@thenewholistic]

Top 5 from each Act... Act I: 5) Beyond The Vale 4) The Gold Mask 3) The Good In Goodbye 2) ATUM 1) Embracer Act II: 5) The Culling 4) To The Greys 3) Moss 2) Night Moves 1) Space Age Act III: 5) Sojourner 4) The Canary Trainer 3) Harmageddon 2) Spellbinding 1) Pacer This 15-song mix is a great SP album... But of course the entire 33 (or 43 if you include Zodion At Crystal Hall) song project is a triumph, no matter what you think of the individual songs... Fan since '93 speaking. AMAZING interview btw! 💜

[@mercurymachines4311]

Some great choices, it really is such a fantastic piece of work.

[@nebulous8389]

I thought Steps in Time was definitely a top song of act 1

[@guitaristssuck8979]

​@@nebulous8389totally, Beyond The Vale is my least favourite from Act I, I mean, it's an ok track, but I prefer Hooray

[@thenewholistic]

@@nebulous8389 man, I just cannot get into that song! I think it reminds me too much of Zwan, and I believe that the drums are a programmed loop, which leaves a lot to be desired on a rock track like this. In theory, I should like it and in theory I should hate Beyond The Vale (which I kind of did at first) but it's so sonically out of character for SP that I respected it enough to listen really intently on good headphones and it grew on me. It's like dance-metal, it's fun

[@thenewholistic]

@@guitaristssuck8979 Hooray! is really good like Cupid De Locke was such a surprise the first time I heard it. If Hooray! had different production, people wouldn't be so mad at it lol

[@elenag9595]

We only come out at night, is a great song, really special.

[@shanesalenjus5989]

Great interview. Billy Corgan is awesome and needs to be in the Hall Of Fame. Period.

[@mulloa1]

Every Billy Corgan interview is my favorite Billy Corgan interview

[@paulwblair]

19:54 - We Only Come Out at Night is great song. If I made a best-of from Melancholy I would include it.

[@thenewholistic]

Every album (sans Monuments To An Elegy & Oceania for the most part) from Adore until ATUM are slow burners, they are so different from the last one and not what's popular at the moment. So have a relationship with ATUM (and CYR) and over time you'll find where it fits in your life 💜

[@NightMedicine]

Oceania gives me big time The Cure vibes. Especially the title track. It’s worth giving a listen to again!

[@satanika_serpentika]

Billy should be a guest host! The conversation flow works!

[@drturkey1318]

"We only come out at night" was always a beautiful song , when I was a teenager me and my friends had a sound system in my garage so one night we dressed up in those full body Halloween suits and blasted that song and danced out in the street, people thought we were fucking nuts

[@RayDavies452]

This is a really great, free-flowing interview.

[@joshuatealeaves]

Billy is such a fun guy. This interview flew by

[@pipsic]

He is such a good talker

[@martinone9]

Brilliant minds produce brilliant art.

[@mikhail113]

Billy Corgans so inspiring speaker, as well as music! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@angieotiniano5927]

Zack interviews Tana one week giving me all the tea and then THE Billy Corgan after I bought tickets for their WPB show 😭😭 i’m living rn

[@lynnroath-costa9219]

I love the point Billy makes about before when social media took off how people would walk up to him and ask him do you prefer Mr. Corgan, or Bill, and now with social media especially these days it does really seem like people can go up to famous people and interact with them as if they already know them.

[@mdr44]

Great interview! Love the new album!

[@ChannelZero1031]

4:57 Note to Billy Corgan: Stars don't always belong in the sky, my friend. You are human after all. You seem to have suffered another Narcissistic injury by being humanized or added to the rest of the world with, "Yo Bill!". He is lowkey looking for the red-carpet treatment all the time. Ps. In case anyone didn't know, Billy seems to have a problem with being "Ordinary". Hence the line from "Muzzle": "I fear that I am ordinary, just like everyone..." He stated this fear many years ago. It highlights his Narcissism, a lot.

[@GoldenGodDennisReynolds]

This might seem ironic given the guest, but damn the host’s voice isn’t easy on the ear at all.

[@hobojungle1]

He is so damn articulate.

[@kristopherryanwatson]

"once a younger artist figures out a way to game the system, they're not going to spend 10,000 hours like i did" true words have never been spoken. this is applicable to anyone in their creative or professional craft.

[@jordan4225]

Freaking love this interview

[@honkytrousers]

I didn’t realise billy uses his right hand to talk as much as he did here

[@wozja]

Birth mark on his left hand he as stated he self conscious about. One of his first bands when he was a kid he named “The mark” after his. He also references it in lyrics for song ‘Rocket’ where he sings “the mark I’ve borne … a mark of scorn to you “

[@mikaelhattingh]

i love this man. his thoughts are worth listening to.

[@shelbythompsoon]

Smiling Politely!

[@130stevieg]

Great interview. SP has the catalog worth diving into fully. A true great band with a fantastic discography. Don’t listen to reviews.

[@grizzlywhisker]

Personally I think Gish/Siamese Dream/Mellon Collie are the must listen albums, Adore and Machina have a few songs that are really good, but as a whole they're not my favorite. My next favorite would be Zeitgeist which seemed like a return to the classic "alternative rock with a heavy metal edge" sound they created in the mid 90's, it has lots of really cool shredding guitar riffs, plus it's got Jimmy back on drums kicking major ass. Their albums past 2007 were not really memorable to me. 🤷‍♂

[@Organogolddulcegarci]

​@@grizzlywhisker who asked you though

[@HeyJayThomas]

Amazing interview! I love when people who respect Billy interview him.

[@marisasinn-dorfeld7113]

Absolutely fantastic interview

[@alexandrosalexandropoulos4836]

Excellent in depth interview. Great job, congrats. Greetings from Athens, Greece.❤🙏

[@meveevem1001]

Consider also that an artist does not choose their life - the art chooses them. As with Billy, if one is consumed with their art they will find a way. Whether waiting tables or a full time job in business - an artist can and will find their path. It will likely be filled with struggle but if it is non negotiable to be an artist …. the artist will find their way.

[@SupermanNew52]

I've never been here before, but I've been a Billy/SP fan since I was 11 years old back in 1993, when a Siamese Dream cassette tape was put into the player and I heard "Cherub Rock" start to play. I sat there and listened to the whole album and it changed my life and molded my musical tastes from that moment on.

[@LegendofTheCosmic7]

Alethea House does a recovery show right. Live music. But it's not underground talent like me. Although I am fixing to change that. Billy played at a green bridge in Killen Alabama. I think it was I'm not sure, Drown. I'm fixing to try to basketball diaries ending art production because there's such a huge history in Muscle Shoals Alabama. I'll do the work. I loved SP since rhinoceros came out on 120 minutes then between Gish and Siamese Dream but that performance for Disarm where it was sooooo electric and expression. That moment got me. Thank you for being an inspiration. Thank you for stopping and playing at that bridge.

[@willydeangelis699]

Billy is the best! Always gives amazing interviews

[@tommyb7623]

Billy should start his own podcast

[@nodarkthings]

Hell yeah

[@cdawg_sf]

I watched so many interviews with billy and each time it’s different and thought provoking

[@davidseals3689]

Billy's voice is so unique and unperfect that it makes me love it that much more. Gives normal people like me who diddle around with making music hope. There is something about being yourself and owning who you are and not caring that is freeing and liberating. Be yourself, always, dont let anyone take that away from you. In a world full of squares, id rather be a circle.

[@ectoplasma5]

Great Interview !

[@sympathyforthedevil1553]

Deep

[@scotty305]

Thanks for posting this, I'm glad it showed up on my youtube feed. I have an old MP3 player with gigabytes of full albums on it, I still listen to it. Smashing Pumpkins is certainly one of the bands that I can listen to for hours on end, without wanting to change to something else. Gish, Adore, Mellon Collie, Machina, etc. I'm looking forward to buying the new album.

[@georged7627]

Billy and whoever else has great knowledge just have to give us humans more credit, we are all made of dancing universal symphony vibrations which created AI and there will be kids out there that still have the ability to make beautiful music from the heart and soul... Everyone is unique and apart of this wonderful universe we call home...We are creators we are human 🙏🏽I love smashing pumpkins more now than I ever did...it's like I've awakened because now in my life I am actually listening to the music, before I was hearing the music...it's so much better when you really listen...all the bands I've listen to in the past it's like I've rediscovered these bands again it's amazing...What a time to be alive 🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾love ya billy and everyone else...I think turning 48 is a real eye opener

[@antiochiaadtaurum3786]

48:08 - it's called criticism Billy. Your inability to take it is not your listener's problem

[@pepsisheen8356]

i love listening to Billy talk. He always has really interesting insightful things to say. Love his music!

[@michelleneal6860]

"That's where you want to put a bullet in your head..." Very funny Billy.

[@liennitram9291]

I really enjoy listening to Billy. Either his music or his interviews. He seems like an incredibly nice guy....who's just straight forward. I like those kind of people.

[@rose_quartz_loveandlight]

legend ❤

[@jwbucklin]

Fantastic interview

[@AlfonsoCorace]

awesome interview

[@RadioactiveKetchup]

This was a really good interview

[@JozziBug]

I listened to all 33 songs, can't wait to hear the other 10!

[@charlesgratiot]

We only come out at night was always one of my favorites that never played on TV or radio. My brother and I had mellon collie on repeat on our first boom box while playing N64 in our bunk bed.

[@mml5418]

I'm so excited for this new era of the smashing pumpkins. They are hands down far more talented then any other band from the grunge days. They are getting better as time goes on. Billy i love you,and thanks for giving the world your beautiful art

[@MoncoField]

Woah, hey hey, i love Smashing Pumpkins too, but they are NOT the only alternative band from the 90s that's talented. Are you out of your mind? Lol

[@gordoncockfield]

​@@MoncoFieldalso not getting better

[@justinrisen1929]

Ehhhh.... No mate... SP were among the greats of that era but not the only talented artists by far. Alice in Chains id place right next to them and even after the death of Layne and the inclusion of William they are still putting out gold to this day and absolutely killing it live. For me Jerry Cantrel and Billy Corgan are the most talented musical composers of that period in music history and even now. Though id say Soundgarden was amazing and at least the first 3 PJ records are legendary as well. Nirvana...... trash.

[@Podus81]

Well SP don't exist anymore.

[@Podus81]

​@@justinrisen1929Dude, Nirvana are garbage.

[@gramoulzlu]

What a stunning interview. Thanks a lot for this guys

[@DeepSeaBeee]

He's a hand talker. I love it lol

[@joemayse5028]

32:48 Billy talks about how AI and future of music.

[@blacktide888]

The Smashing Pumpkins are so awesome . Their new album is 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@scottrobertson307]

New album is absolute garbage!😂😂😂 Siamese and Gish 👍 are a masterpiece

[@blacktide888]

@@scottrobertson307 Siamese Dream is great.

[@jeffreyschneider8028]

Great interview great moment in time. Billy was very open and honest. More forthcoming than I’ve seen in a bit. Very energizing from the creator of my favorite band of all time

[@startervisions]

the Alternative Rock Gods are pleased and satisfied

[@meveevem1001]

Billy Corgan should have a podcast from his tea room Madame Zuzu. If you are reading this Billy …. It would be fantastic! You are incredibly fascinating and intelligent - and will bring another dimension of higher thought to the conversation.

[@mierypesado6740]

God I love Billy

[@sirtyn]

This was fantastic guys

[@grizzlywhisker]

I was a huge Pumpkins fan when I was growing up and I always found Billy to be a pretty interesting and respectable guy. I always want to like his new music, but I haven't been able to get into most of the newer albums. I thought the 2007 "Zeitgeist" album he made with the original Pumpkins drummer (Jimmy Chamberlin) was quite good and memorable, that was the last Pumpkins album that really stuck with me. I think they did a lot of things right with that album in how they brought the music back to the classic "alternative rock with a heavy metal edge" style and how it felt like all the songs fit together as one musical experience. Obviously music is subjective and we all aren't going to like the same things, but I'd love if Billy took the music in that direction again.

[@33.3fm4]

You should really check out Oceania

[@Brinta3]

@@33.3fm4 Yes, Oceania is really good!

[@NightMedicine]

I gotta say dude, you are a REALLY good interviewer. I’ve seen pretty much every single Billy interview online and this might be the best (with the Lars Ulrich interview coming at a now, second place.) You really have a way of disarming your guest (no pun intended.) 😂 Very positive and genuine. Not canned questions at all. You can really tell you are curious and interested in the creative process. Sometimes Billy has a tendency to put his guard up and play a character or persona. But he seems totally real and laid back here. Excellent stuff man! And SUPER funny. I found myself pausing it because I was seriously laughing hard. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 I’m kind of curious, did you prepare a lot before this interview? Were you nervous? Peace from Louisiana. ✌🏼

[@bdhanes]

FABULOUS interview! Sharp, intelligent, contemporary, relevant to today conversation. ❤ Looking forward to seeing Billy tmrw in Bend, OR 8/6/23!

[@AdamWodon]

great job on the interview - first I'm coming across this show so I will now check out others. I had so many more questions I thought of along the way though.

[@zachsangshow]

Thanks for watching!

[@Bermuda495]

Wow, one his top best interviews . Bravo dude

[@klonkillee5615]

Captain Picard smiling politely 😂

[@Th3DarkCanuck]

Great interview! Billy's such a smart dude. You did a really good job talking with him.

[@jadeariellevaughn4695]

Fucking Billy Corgan !!!!!! Now, I have a strong feeling one of the only people who could get D'arcy Wretzky interview would be ZACH SANG!

[@Grigsy]

No one cares about her anymore. The Smashing Pumpkins have been performing longer without her than with her.

[@jadeariellevaughn4695]

@@Grigsy right but it's still be hella interesting to hear from her -- she's one that doesn't have many interviews -- the interviews that she has, she's normally getting talked over by Billy and doesn't have more than 5min of her speaking -- so I'd like to hear from her now

[@gordoncockfield]

​@@Grigsybetter with her though

[@andresav1073]

Mi top 10 ATUM: 10 Sojourner 09 Moss 08 Springtimes 07 Harmageddon 06 Cenotaph 05 Space age 04 Intergalatic 03 Empires 02 The Good in goodbye 01 The Culling

[@thenewholistic]

Empires at 3? Don't see that at all... So overrated. Not into the Embracer, Night Moves, Canary Trainer, Pacer types ...? Spellbinding, Gold Mask and the title track ATUM (especially the orchestral version is amazing)?

[@tylerstoering2930]

That's a dope list. 1. spellbinding, 2. avalanche, 3. moss, 4. harmageddon, 5. To The Grays 6. beguiled, 7. steps in time, 8. empires, 9. the good in goodbye, 10. to the grays,

[@andresav1073]

@@thenewholistic Yes ATUM first track is amazing

[@jayelliott1883]

This was a great interview thanks for what you do!

[@AndrewsOpinion15]

BILLY CORGAN SO AWESOME ON ZACH SANG SHOW !!!

[@cent-kz2ti]

loved some of the questions he asked him

[@dach3405]

Funny story about "we only come out at night". I've actually loved that song from the start since '95. There are many great tunes in MC that would have deserved more attention (like e.g. By Starlight). Not all great songs become instant hits. They can still be just as great. SP definitely has more than plenty of great songs in their discography.

[@franjo5429]

I saw the Pumpkins on the Reeperbahn, Hamburg in the 90´s. Great!

[@lynnroath-costa9219]

You do Great interviews! love the questions you ask.

[@sonofaguppy6708]

Thirty-three.. one of my favorite Pumpkins songs.

[@joncamp9126]

I really appreciate Billy having the humanity and humility to give the underdog a chance. I see a lot of sides to him, whether good or bad, there’s no denying Billy is a very special person. Not to mention he is some kind of prodigy. I love that he hates the new star wars movies ❤

[@MoncoField]

Its not hard to see that the new Star wars films are trash lol

[@joncamp9126]

@@MoncoField I know people that like them, blows my mind! I can understand force awakens, but that is it

[@sethhoward136]

Great interview!

[@naomio8163]

Oh my god can’t believe you guys got billy!!!!

[@Paul-dw2cl]

Billy seems to love Disneyland